"Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ...voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country".

Sound all to familiar? Who said this? This quote was said during the Nuremberg War Tribunals in 1946 by:

Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall

Rick has also never heard of the old saying "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer". Thanks Rick for the heads up, and I am very, very afraid. It was not only France that didn't back our little Iraq war, neither did Germany and many others. All Iraq did was drain our bank account, kill our soldiers, make Halliburton richer, and free up Iran to do what it is doing right now because they no longer had to keep their eye on crazy Saddam Hussein their arch enemy. Nice going. Rick will do the same.

Does make one wonder if the surname Santorum is derivative of Sanatorium (an institution where chronically ill persons are best treated in isolation).

What does the Sanitarium plan going to be? A return to Nixon blacklisting? Bush patriot act fear? Where the hell does it end?

Has Obama really gone around apologizing for America?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/sep/22/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-repeats-claim-obama-went-around-world-/

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2012/jan/20/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-obama-made-worldwide-apology-tour/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jun/03/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-traveled-around-glob/

Politifact says pants on fire. Obama has simply chosen a different course of action on foreign policy and has been critical of previous policy but has never at any point started apologizing.

Believe or not being confrontational with any country not benefiting America does not help us and trying to be a bit more diplomatic can help.

Excuse me, but where is Osama bin Laden right now?

Question for the Obama haters and those that believe the country is "less safe" thanks to President Obama. You will have to step outside of your "talking points" box to answer.

How has he made the country less safe? You can't use the argument that there are people out trying to kill Americans as that's been going on for over 30 years now.

Yup. Obama apologizes...

Sorry, Somali pirates.

So sorry, Anwar al-Awlaki

And so very, very sorry, Osama bin Laden.

Maybe Santorum can put us on the road to peace with Iran. After all, he and Achmadinejad have someting in common: they're both misogynistic, homophobic saber rattlers. Could this be enough to start a dialogue?

That is why they are called politician....they will say whatever is appropriate for their own cause, whether it is the truth, twisting of the facts, misinterpretation of details, quoting someone's statements or words out of context. Anything that will get them elected.

"Ladies and gentleman, we have a president who not only apologizes for America, but consistently makes our country less safe,"

And how exactly is Santorum gonna make the US safer? Ben Laden is dead; Al-Awlaki is dead. So is he going to kill Ahmadinejad?

Rickie Sanctimonious forgets that the French were arm-in-arm with the American Revolutionary Forces during our country's founding.

Poor Rickie, he's still so pious and stupid. So glad we kicked him out of PA!

Excuse me, but where is Osama bin Laden right now?

THANK YOU!! From what I remember, it was Rick "frothy" Santorum that bitched and moaned at the fact......that Obama announced Bin Laden's death. An announcement 3000+ FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD were waiting and needed to hear for TEN DAMN YEARS!!! How the hell else is he suppose to say it?!?!?! This country deserves to fail if this clown gets anywhere near the White House.

God I can't wait for this man to join Perry and Cain so they can one final time perform their disappearing acts.

BW3 the truth isn't something you make up by pulling it out of thin air.

Truth can be backed up with facts. Maybe you could provide a fact or two to support what is now the 11th candidate for the Repubs to lead in the polls. Fact, with 11 different leaders at some point, it shows that the GOP is fractured, confused, and really pathetic. Now I see why you identify with them, cause on any given day the wind may change you'll have the new flavor of the month. Figure it will take that party a couple of more months to get down to your best of the worst candidates. Meanwhile, the economy improves, Obama actually has real success internationally. You don't and won't see it cause your head is stuck in the ground.

Whether you believe it or not, the world isn't actually flat, and I think its time for America to stop telling their women what to do with their bodies.

I won't say all conservative are scum like you have but you clearly are of low intelligence to come up with such a weak response. Weak as in weak minded.

BWIII

You're going to be very lonesome hiding under your bed alone until January 20, 2017.

The French leader, once dubbed Super Sarko by the local press for his eagerness to take the reins in global crises, summoned leaders from four continents to an emergency war council at the Elysee presidential palace in Paris to agree on military action against strongman Moammar Kadafi in Libya.

His 20 guests had barely reached an agreement when Sarkozy announced that French planes were already in the air preparing to strike.

Santorum speaks politics only and hopes no one will check his facts. No president ever made America less safe than that republican Bush II. 911 didn't have to happen but did because Bush II was too busy enjoying his new found power and praising himself and didn't have time for American security. Maybe I missed that part in Santorum's speach. In fact I didn't read anything at all about the Republican 911 screw up.

Dick, Clinton definitely has some culpability to what happened on 9/11. That being said Santorum is an absolute joke! If this is the best they can come up with as a candidate then the Republican party is dead and Obama will win in a landslide.

Proof please. I want the exact time and date Obama apologized for the US. This drivel is the same all Reps keep pumping out there to the minion of followers who are too dumb or lazy to actually research the truth. Every report states it didn't happen, yet they keep putting it out there... Shades of Bushwhacked tactics that worked for him way back when.

Then, as others have said, please explain Bin Laden, Al-Walki (sp), Libya, etc... yeah... he is weak on protecting the US. Did Bushie get or even go after Bin Laden???

I have enjoyed seeing almost every candidate "rise to the top" of the polls, only to see them crash to the bottom. I hope this idiot does win the nomination as it will make it SO much easier for Obama to win another term.

And how, exactly is butt goo making us safer by announcing in a nationally televised debate that if he were President, he would attack Iran and get our military involved in North Korea, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Columbia?

Dubyah was too afraid of upsetting the Bin Laden family, which has close ties to the Bush family, and of course, their big oil buisness

So let me get this straight. Having good, solid relations with other countries is apologizing? I expect the "Obama apologizing" rhetoric from the rwnj trolls, but when it comes from it's leading candidate, that's shows how pathetic they really are. This guy (Santorum) is an embarrassment and I happily can't believe he's the best you've got.

Rick has a aspirin between his knees, is that safe ?

fuzzy44 - you may wanna get your facts straight. Bin Laden's family made their fortune in the construction business. Not that I'm defending Bush or anything, but you need to have the facts right. Bush's administration had no interest in killing Osama Bin Laden. As long as he was alive there was a reason to continue unlimited and indefinite aggression in the Middle East. Now that he's gone, we're winding it down.

I believe I'm going to vote for Santorum in the Michigan primary (all things remaining equal till the 28th). He is only slightly less delusional than Gingrich. He should an be easy defeat in the general election.

witchrunner you do realize that we have enough nuclear weapons to sterilize the earth not once but twice. If we get into a situation where we had to use all of those weapons the whole world dies and so did we really win anyway.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0209-chapman-20120209,0,1070341.column

Chapman is a columnist for the right leaning Chicago Tribune and though I often disagree with him, here he hits the nail on the head. A MUST read for all you right wing trolls. Excuse me, A MUST read for everybody!!

And how, exactly is butt goo making us safer by announcing in a nationally televised debate that if he were President, he would attack Iran and get our military involved in North Korea, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Columbia?

Because there are people, a very tiny percentage of us, that get wealthy from war. You know, the ones that don't do the fighting, but profit from the blood of those that do. They buy the politicians, like Santorum, who spread fear amongst the already frightened, then wrap themselves around the flag and call it patriotism. And anyone who disagrees is a traitor. This is not something new. Been going on for centuries and both parties are guilty. So instead of leading the world in new technology that may save this planet from eventual extinction, we continue to prosper in the war industry.

Rick Santorum Wife had a six and a half year affair with a abortion doctor, could this be Rick's problem with contraception ? This family is drawing flies. They are Phony as a three dollar bill.

There are a number of reasons I no longer support the GOP, and I've just added another one to the list under the label "Santorum". What a bunch of mouth breathing, bull crapping anal apertures they have become. They present themselves like petulant 6th graders having an argument in the schoolyard at recess. We desperately need a 3rd party of moderates, and with brains.

Tony if you you look up the Bin Laden famly on Wikipedia you will find oil is in there!

@ tonybeeerm, sorry for the confusion, the Bin Laden family did make their fortune in the construction industry, but, they did or still do have ties to the Bush family. and like the Bush family have their hands in everything. BIG MONEY is the term I should have used. :)

"Ladies and gentleman, we have a president who not only apologizes for America"

Straight from the mouth of Karl Rove. See here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044156269345357.html

Adults appologize when it's appropriate because we know we occasionally make a mistake and there's nothing wrong with that. Only children think you should never appologize.

@ tonybeeerm, sorry for the confusion, the Bin Laden family did make their fortune in the construction industry, but, they did or still do have ties to the Bush family. and like the Bush family have their hands in everything. BIG MONEY is the term I should have used. :)

You are correct. Osama was the black sheep of the Bin Laden family. They were very respected worldwide and had ties to many here in the US. I guess out of 57 kids, one has to go wrong.

Tony if you you look up the Bin Laden famly on Wikipedia you will find oil is in there!

Only is in everything in Saudi Arabia. Even the water.

Rick Santorum said rape victims should think of the babies conceived during their assault as gifts from God, this guy is beyond Weird.

In addition to what was stated above, the Obama administration has stopped 21 terror plots on American soil. The most recent one was this week when a man planned to detonate a bomb in the Capitol's Visitors' Center. RW nuts stop being ridiculous.

yeah i felt pretty unsafe when bin laden got caught...

So Rick Sanitarium found the only 750 people in the country who haven't heard that that Bin Laden is DEAD?Something, by-the-way, that Bush publicly announced that he gave up on achieving?

Rick meet shovel and keeping digging! Who knows, you may someday actually find the truth at the bottom of that hole...

Tony, Bush had no interest in killing bin Laden? Really? You seriously believe that do you?

the sheep in the republican party will follow Rick ....fear mongering is a great motivator for the GOP ..give the republicans something or some one to fear... even if it is a lie ... like WMDs ..and the GOP will run .. hide and look for a hero like Santorum to kill every one to make them safe Most of the GOP fear for their lives because their souls are in danger .. they check under their bed at night to make sure some one wearing a turbin is not hideing there... even after the US Government quit looking for WMDs Rick said Iraq still had them .. not very bright Rick

BigATC - It was Cheney that stated "Osama Bin Laden was no longer a primary target."

The Republican party, sadly, has hit the lowest point it possibly can in US history. If Bush wasn't bad enough, now they actually stoop to believing Santorum, a right wing nut job his own state shoved out the door, is White House material? Where on earth has the intelligent GOP gone?

Santorum says President Obama makes this country unsafe? When President Obama goes around the country for 12 months marketing a war like Bush did that killed 4,000 plus Americans, tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians and Lord only knows how many US soldiers he maimed, then and only then does Santorum have the right to his stupid statement. How safe were we?

Since President Obama took office in 2009, more than a half dozen attempts at terrorism right here in the US have been neatly executed and averted without a single American death.

If all Santorum has to win this election is his contortions of truth, President Obama will see a landslide in November. But the most fun for me will be watching the righties and the rich asses all go into seizures because they didn't get their way...roflmao.

But he was still a target. That is a far cry from having no interest in killing him.

Independent, both parties are masters of fear mongering. If i recall wasn't too long ago i recall someone putting a grandmother in a wheelchair and pushing her over a cliff.

The people of Pennsylvania kick this religious extremists nut out on his ass because of his poor performance. Rick Santorum is beyond a loser. This nut gets most of his support from the tea-retards, the Kocheads, the 1%, Fox crackpot news, Joe Walsh, Grover Norquist, Aspirin-sugar daddy and his weak minded followers. What's in their H2O ?

So...

SHOW us which candidate can do the right job for the Conservatives and the GOP. We're looking, waiting and hoping but ...?

So...

Who is the best of the the runners? Like Bill Clinton's 2nd win... Obama can win simply by dividing the votes. Better settle on one and get everyone behind him else the democrats will be here until 2016.

Give us the key to this dilemma.

The first primaries should always be in the home states of the candidates. That way the rest of the country can tell what their own people really think of them.

Every time Santorum opens his mouth, the sum total of human knowledge goes down.

As far as "keeping us safe", the president has very little to do with that. The military, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, Border Patrol, etc. should get 99% of the credit as they are in the gutter with th nut jobs every day. As long as the prez stays out the way and doesn't gut the needs of these agencies they will do well. Just a matter of time before one gets through somewhere unfortunately.

newscover "BWIII ... "Scum Libs" I see you are part of the togetherness party!"

And I suppose you think Obama's 'Class Warfare' is designed to 'bring us together'?

Get ready for Obama to wage the most vicious war of division in history. He certainly can't run on his economic/jobs record, can he?

Here are the JOBS figures from the OFFICIAL government Bureau of Labor Statistics site;

Average number of jobs in 2008 (Bush's last year) = 136,790,000.

Average number of jobs in 2011 (Obama's third year) = 131,358,000, a LOSS of 5,432,000 jobs under Obama.

Here's the government site to verify - just look at the 'Total' figures for 2008 & 2011;

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

'Four more years?' - You've got to be kidding.

But Roy, his budget projects a 25 Trillion debt and still having a 700 Billion spending deficit 10 years from now in 2022. Surely you can get behind that?

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Here we go again ... the Grand Old Party of "Fear Mongering"!!!!!!!!!

Newscover that is Obama's way or have you not noticed?

Insanetorum lies again. Go to politifact.com and see for yourself that Obama "apologizing" to other countries is a pants on fire lie.

Bin Laden is dead as is most of the leadership of Al Qaeda, if anything we are infinitely safer.

neko: You do realize that the reason we have nukes is so that we don't have to use them, don't you? It's history 101 that you have peace through strength. The reason we won the cold war was because the Soviets were driven into bankruptcy because they believed that we were getting stronger and reasoned that they couldn't afford to lag behind. With Iran trying to go nuclear and the Russians maintaining their nukes it doesn't make any sense to unilaterally disarm. Obama has a fantasy of a nuclear free world and wants the to be the one to lead the way. Personally, I don't want to be nuclear free because I don't trust that everyone else would follow suit. Plus, without the threat of retaliation, the deterrence is greatly diminished. With deterrence, perception is everything. And the perception now is that America is weaker than it has been in decades and is getting weaker. That is why others are emboldened. That is not in our national interest.

You do realize that the reason we have nukes is so that we don't have to use them, don't you? It's history 101 that you have peace through strength.

That's about as ignorant a statement as anyone can make. And how's that peace working? Since WWII, we've had more engagements than at any time in our history. So that blows your "peace through strength" theory right out of the water. Maybe you need a history 101 refresher course.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA...unbelievable, only a right-winger republican or tea-pubulican could make a statement like that and actually believe it themselves or think educated people would believe that crap....the real question is: How low would they really go because he's pretty much in the gutter along with the rest of them?? Imagine that, a so called Christian lying through his teeth...Oh, I forgot, If you believe it, it must be true, HAHAHAHHAAA!!...Now you see why the KOOK Santorum lost his last Seante race by 19 points, even the people in his own state knows he's delusional....I'm beginning to think we need to start testing LSD again and chill these KOOKS out for awhile!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012....KICKING ASS and TAKING NAMES

Satanorum is another liar trying to convince everyone that war is good and peace is bad. He is anti abortion and pro killing our children in his wars for plunder. We are always safer when the GOP is watching from the sidelines.

The Vomitorium is INCOMPETENT and is a HAS BEEN

Alright, let me get this right. Having good, cordial relations with foreign nations, killing and routing al Qaeda's operatives with UAV drones, and using economic and diplomatic pressuring to coerce nations is making us unsafe???? This from the same guy who compared gay marriage to bestiality and said that the government has the right to get into a woman's private parts (illegal penetration)???? My God, the dumbing down of the GOP has commenced. There is no such thing as a moderate Republican; they are either ultraconservative idiots or Independents now.

And this from the same guy who thinks that cutting the deficit means cutting spending AND taxes and that freedom is penetrating a woman's private parts???? If America elects an idiot like him we are SCREWED. This guy has the freaking nerve to say that the one president with a good foreign policy in about 45 years is making America unsafe???? After the wars that George Bush dragged us into and the failed operation in Somalia by Clinton??? After the 1991 World Trade Center bombing and the Iran Contra affair???? I ought to go over there and show him a piece of my mind. Then again, being a Democrat, I'll just make things muckier for Obama. I hope that the GOP nominate this wacko so the world (and America) can see the GOP for who they REALLY are; a bunch of right-wing yahoos are willing to do anything to further the interests of their lord Grover Norquist and his disciples!!

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

tony: Last I checked, the last nation to directly attack the US was Japan during WWII. Since we nuked them, no one has attacked us on our soil. All the other wars have been overseas and by our choice to right a wrong. Vietnam was about supporting 17 million people against the Communist Aggression from the North and to stop the "domino" affect. The problem there is that the politicians got involved and they didn't want to win it. Libs won't admit it, but Barry Goldwater was right! Less people would have been killed if he had been elected. The problem with the left is that they will never admit that Communism and socialism are evil. Heck, there are people in this current administration who praise Mao! Now how sick is that? Of course, these are the same libs who praised him during the Cultural Revolution too. The problem we are having in this country is that too many have never learned about our history and what freedom is all about. These people have a tendency to prefer thugs who will promise to make everything "equal" for everybody, even if "equal" means being dirt poor.

Personally, I'd rather be in a position to make sure that the rest of the world understands that they don't mess with us with facing severe consequences rather than being in a position where people have no fear of us and the modus operendi is to sit in a circle holding hands singing kumbya praying that everyone one else is nice and will do the same.

Find me a Republican that wouldn't institute a new plan for a corporate America and I'll find you a real live geico that can talk.

Lunatic Sanatorium - anti abortion, sex for procreation ONLY.. WHY? So these children grow up to become soldiers for his desire to continue to wage wars. Yep, God forbid this crazy bigot get into the WH, or the DRAFT will be put back if no one signs up for it. Remember, he is anti gay or women in the military.

Did the Domino effect work, witchrunner??? To be honest, not as much as expected. Sure much of Southeast Asia turned (or maybe before the Vietnamese did) Communist, but the rest of Asia (Japan, South Korea, India, Burma, etc) remained democratic. Cambodia, and Thailand have either rejected Communism or have never embraced it. Vietnam is open to reform. Only Laos is in Communism, and it eventually has to reject it. Like my father always said, Communism is not permanent. In my opinion, it could be a simple transition. From a fascist or aristocratic society to a communist one to perhaps a democracy. All nations will find a system that serve them well, and for many it is democracy. Communism cannot last. The last war that I thought we should have fought against Communism was Korea, and even then we embraced the dictators pf South Korea until they went full-blown democratic. Democracy can better adapt to a changing society; Communism only works in a period after the lower classes have been taken advantage of by aristocrats. Eventually people (perhaps in the second to third generation) will hear about the prosperity of the outside world and will become tired with the status quo. It has happened time and again; in the Soviet Union, in Poland, in China (to a degree), in Southeast Asia, even now in places like Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and the ongoing fight in Syria. As a wise man once said, let the cards fall where they may. Eventually the human emotions of independence and desire for freedom will enable a populace to create their own government that will serve their needs. Maybe America could stop all this madness and warmongering and foster a foreign policy that is both self-sustainable (fiscally, economically, diplomatically, and politically) and actually helpful to other nations and their people.

Oh, and you preferred a position where the world does fear us. That is now. But there is an alternative. One where America is powerful is and respected, but not feared. You see, fear breeds contempt, not necessarily respect. We feared the British, but that fear turned to contempt, and then we rebelled. In a modern scenario, the world would essentially turn against America. That is highly unlikely, but not to be discarded. I disagree with Ron Paul on most issues, but I agree with him on the fact that America cannot keep this nonsensical foreign policy. We need to develop one that helps everybody, and makes America respected instead of feared. People feared men like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mubarak, Gaddafi, and Assad. Now look what has happened to them. All but Mao, Stalin, and Assad suffered cruel fates (Pol Pot's realm crumbled soon after his death), and both Mao and Stalin saw their nations either disavow Communism for the most part or reject Communism wholeheartedly. And Assad's fate is bleak at best. Nobody, not even the powerful United States, can hold back the minds of tortured youths who thirst for freedom. That is why we must change our foreign policy. Obama's policy is a start, but we still have a long way to go. We cannot keep being the world's bully. Eventually the bullied will get tired and rise up. There is a solution, we just have to work hard to make it.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Oh and Roy-is asking the wealthy to pay just a little more in taxes class warfare?? Is asking the ones who have prospered the most over the past 30 years to pay just a little bit more so the middle class can grow again is class warfare???? If it is, tell me where the recruitment office is. If its a battle the Republicans, I'm gonna give them a war. I got millions of Americans on my side, and while we may not have the money, we have the passion of the American spirit. Here we come, GOP!!!!!! The American people are on to your scam. Make your preparations and go have a feast, for it shall be your last. We are tired of failed trickle-down economic policies, of burgeoning debt during conservative administrations, and of growing economic inequality. We want a chance to prosper too. We don't want lower taxes; we want balanced deficit reduction plans, more spending in infrastructure, education, innovation, and job creation, and less on tax cuts for the 1% and stupid foreign military adventures in godforsaken lands. We cannot rely on the current 1% Congress to help us, for they are bought out by Traitor Norquist. We must take up our arms, vote, and fight the enemy. TO HELL WITH STARVE THE BEAST!!!!! TO HELL WITH TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS!!!!!!!!!! TO HELL WITH RIGHT-WING FASCIST SLAVE MARKETS!!!!!!!!! Death the GOP!!!!!

No, I am not a fanatic. Nor am I a Marxist, a socialist, or a communist. I have grown tired of the economic disparity, of gridlock, of trickle-down economics, and the growing "aristocracy." I have had enough of this so-called "class warfare" BS. The GOP is finished. Their propaganda machine has done enough to brainwash the population. Please, please, America. Go to vote. When you get to the ballot on November 6, do not be cowed by warnings of "dictatorship" and a "socialist America." The GOP is trying to fool you. Please, I beg of you, for the sake of the next generation. Vote for the ONLY rational people in Washington, the Democrats and Obama. They are naturally flawed, but fortunately they are not completely beholden to the 1%, and only they have a sense of moderation. Don't let the GOP take over and destroy America. Please do this, if not for your country, for your children. No, I am not being melodramatic. Stop this insanity and put the GOP in their rightful place; in the history books. Let them go down in flames and sink, to give America a fighting chance. TO HELL WITH THE GOP. TO HELL WITH THE RIGHT-WING. TO HELL WITH CONSERVATISM AND THE BLOODY "FREE MARKET!!!!!"

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

I seem to recall that France sent combat troops to Afganistan and to Desert Storm. I would consider that help.

Well said! Ugh, Im from PA, can't believe we have THIS clown as a possible presidential candidate. Seriously, President Obama should get 90% of the vote this year. GOP FAIL.

Actually, Wayne, I believe the WH is counting on getting "our former dweeb" as rival. The sanctimonious fearmongers on the fringe-right need a good thrashing.

I'm from PA too.

Sick Rick Santorum the sexually obsessed pervert, Mr. Gloom and doom the world is ending, dumb as a stump, lying POS is one of the biggest embaressments of PA.

Thank God the good people of PA saw through his narrow minded, hateful, self serving agenda and kicked his creepy a$$ to the curb in double digit numbers.

Ted, so was Dubya Shrub, and it didn't stop him from being elected (and re-elected!)

The American people generally don't remember those types of things on that particular Tuesday in November, unfortunately.

Does anyone else feel like the Republican Party is making a mockery of the political process by putting forward these bozos like Cain, Trump, Bachmann and Santorum as candidates for the most powerful position in the world?

Rick Scumtorum called birth control "Murder" Hum Hum, But it was OK for Rick's wife to have a six and a half year affair with a abortion doctor. There family values are on thin ice. Rick is beyond a Phony.

MOS, lol. Nice talking points, but reality is not your talking points...lol. Just make up stuff;)

Obama and the Dems want Rick to get the nomination ... there are a lot of Ghosts in Ricks Closet .. the dems can hardly wait to share their... Knowledge with undisputable facts about Santorum.

Man of Steel, too bad you are not man of truth. You know as well as I do no one ever promised to get unemployment down to 6%. Provide a link or admit you are lying.

If you are pushing for more tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the people yes you are right President Obama has been a failure as far as the republicans are concerned.

If you are pushing for fairness and a return to the American Dream then President Obama has been a huge success.

Obama/Biden 2012

"Ladies and gentleman, we have a president who not only apologizes for America, but consistently makes our country less safe," Santorum told the 750 people gathered here for a Lincoln Day Dinner on Friday.

And the Bush Boys did???????????????????????????

Anyone would question that statement. Santorum prays to God one minute and lies through his teeth the next. Sanctimonious Santorum. Just another politician wearing the cloak of piety and expecting Morons for constituents.

Go back to your basement bunker there Ricky Boy and pray a little harder................

Man of Steel, brains of poop. Really do you believe that are we going to be better with any of the clowns in the GOP/TP????

They had the country for 8 years and throw it away, and you want them to have it again? We gonna change the "stars and stripes" for the "Big Corp." flag????

Yes, you're man of steel, but brains of poop.....!

Loved reading what people in Pennsylvania, who have known him longer, have to say about him. 'Our former DWEEB' is a good one, as is 'sexually obsessed pervert', but that is a no-brainer. Personally I thought of 'preposterous cock-o-doodle-doo' when I read his new claim.

ANYBODY who like him advocates that a violently raped women ACCEPT THE BLESSING of the resulting pregnancy as something 'FROM GOD', is a nut-case and a loony whose dangerous thoughts can only make this country more UNSAFE.

In a few years the GOP will hopefully be able to live down the shame this bible-thumping weasel has brought upon their slim pickings of stale stiffs in suits for 2012.

Roy: Where is the part where it states that the labor force was shrinking at an alarming rate through the last year of Jr? Or that the Mortgage Crisis and the "Too Big to Fail" happened during Jr's reign? And you pretend that what it took 8 years to destroy by the GOPpers will be fixed in 3 by Obama????

Please, did somebody told you that Santa are your parents and that the tooth fairy doesn't exist also????

hern, what policy by the GOP caused the mortgage fiasco?

Roy likes to leave out alot of other facts available form the dept of labor and other official govt sites that the last six months under Bush saw the largest loss of jobs in modern history- with an average of 550,000 jobs lost a month and 750,000 in one month alone! This is called selective cherry picking! 2.3 million jobs lost in 6 months alone under Bush! so much for the tax cuts for the job creator nonsense! He also forgets to mention that now Obama has overseeen the largest gain in manufacturing jobs since 1990- the greatest turnaround in our lifetime for the GDP which was -9 to a +2- a gain officially of 10.5-11.0 % positive turnaround- the greatest turnaround of Wall Street ever- and im not even that big of a fan of Obama- but in this case its Anyone but the GOP for me!

Santorum is a far-right wing ultra right religious nut. Santorum is one of those far right Catholics who believes, like Mel Gibson and a handful of others that a) all women should be banned from all positions in any church that has even the slightest "influence or authority." This includes women in positions such as church secretary and even janitress. b) that Vatican II should be repealed and every modern pope, starting with Pope John XXIII declared "illigitimate" and that a new Pope be chosen by votes of only Cardinals ordained prior to 1962. c) that the Mass be conducted only in Old Form Latin, and d) that all forms of contraceptin and birth control be made a serious (mandatory prison terms) felony.

Santorum has long held these views and even very conservative Pennsylvania Catholics ousted him from office by better than 2 to 1. He came into the Senate as a political unknown and was thrown out as soon as the voters realized what he stood for and that he was actually serious.

Santorum is one of the drivers behind the "Personhood Pledge" that has been signed by the four remaining GOP contenders --- Romney, Santorum,. Gingrich and Paul. The pledge reads:

"PERSONHOOD REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE PLEDGE

I _________________— proclaim that every human being is created in the image and likeness of God, and is endowed by our Creator with the unalienable right to life.

I stand with President Ronald Reagan in supporting “the unalienable personhood of every American, from the moment of conception until natural death,” and with the Republican Party platform in affirming that I “support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and endorse legislation to make clear that the 14th Amendment protections apply to unborn children.”

I believe that in order to properly protect the right to life of the vulnerable among us, every human being at every stage of development must be recognized as a person possessing the right to life in federal and state laws without exception and without compromise. I recognize that in cases where a mother’s life is at risk, every effort should be made to save the baby’s life as well; leaving the death of an innocent child as an unintended tragedy rather than an intentional killing.

I oppose assisted suicide, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, and procedures that intentionally destroy developing human beings.

I pledge to the American people that I will defend all innocent human life. Abortion and the intentional killing of an innocent human being are always wrong and should be prohibited.

If elected President, I will work to advance state and federal laws and amendments that recognize the unalienable right to life of all human beings as persons at every stage of development, and to the best of my knowledge, I will only appoint federal judges and relevant officials who will uphold and enforce state and federal laws recognizing that all human beings at every stage of development are persons with the unalienable right to life."

A careful read shows that, under this definition of "personhood" even masturbation and condoms would be made serious crimes (saving millions of teenage boys from blindness.) This is why the pledge says "at evey stage of life" instead of "beginning at conception." Under this pledge, any woman who uses birth control pills would be a felon (Santorum wants personbhood violators to be registered sex offenders.) And a teenage boy who masturbates would be a sex criminal. Any woman who takes birth control pills to regulate their menstruation or to treat conditions such as endometriosis would be a felon and serving time right along with the Ob/Gyn who prescribed them. There are even situations, such as the fusing of embryos or the adsorption of "lost twins" would automatically make the mother a criminal. A woman who took so much as a single glass of wine, then learned that she was pregnant, and subsequently had a child with a condition associated with pre-natal maternal alcohol use would be guilty negligent homocide. (BTW Santorum actually has exactly such a child.)

Virginia just passed two bills with veto-proof majorities and a right wing Roman Catholic governor. One was a personhood bill and another that requires a form of ultrasound that is very expensive and is generally reserved for morbidly obese pregnant women who cannot have normal ultrasounds because of their hiuge amount of fat. Another bill that allows civil suits for wrongful death to be brought againbst anyone who has, assists in, or conducts abortions for any reason, including to save the life of the mother. These suits can be brought by any Virginia resident, have no statute of limitations, and could result in unlimited amounts of awards against the mother.

I have been on the receiving end of this sort of thing. My wife was a medical technologist at a for-profit Catholic hospital. She was Catholic, but did not personally subscribe to the prohibition on birth control. But she also had a very difficult time with her periods being so heavy that they caused anemia. The hospital's said their insurance would not cover any ob/gyn visit where birth control pills were prescribed, would not pay for birth control pills, would not pay for the several D&C's that she had, and ultimately refused to pay for the parial histerectomy that was the final treatment. I worked for Blue Cross at the time and questioned this. A close examination of the hospitals data sheets revealed that the insurance company was reimbursing for the pills, the D&C's and the histerectomy, but was keeping the money themselves instead of passing it on to the employee. I eventually had a vascectomy and they refused to pay for that as well.

It should be noted that MORE Catholic women are pro-choice than Protestant or unaffiliated women (82% versus 80%.) Specifically about 92% of Catholic women of child-bearing age favor the use of condome and the pill while only around 89% of the equivalent Prostestant women feel that way.

Obama was dead wrong when he first opposed then allowed religious-owned institutions such as schools, clinics, universities, etc to force their employees to offer limited birth control as a part of "well person" services (which includes such things as neonatal care for otherwise healthy infants and even prophylactic ob/gyn visits.) 28 of the states, covering about 80+% of the population, already had such laws on their books anyway. But Obama caved and allowed religious institutions outside of churches themselves (which were always exempt) to use a government-regulated program to force employees to follow religious doctrines that the employees did not agree with. This is an incredibly serious violation of the necessary wall between Church and State.

I know this rant is long, but it is an incredibly important subject. The GOP wants small government so it can fit in your bedroom. They want individual freedoms, as long as you never use them. The men in the GOP want to personally regulate people's sex lives. And in order to do so, they want to be right there saying, "Tsk tsk."

From the viewpoint of a cultural anthropologist, it is very easy to find a easily-accessible demographic that shares exactly the same view of women and birth control as the Tea Party people --- convicted rapists. They believe that every woman should be forced to carry every baby to term.

EMB, tax policy had nothing to do, ZERO, with what happened when the the mortgage industry blew up and the credit freeze that took place.

We had the manufacturing gains mostly because they had basically slowed to nothing during the recession. Same with the GDP. i.e. You take a million jobs and lose half to 500K. Then grow it to 700k and you have a 40% increase.

Another reason some manufacturing is coming back is because of rising wages in China and costs to get it here are getting closer to even. I know this because i am working on developing a product and have talked to several of these guys. There is no specific policy that is causing it.

@Roy, same lies again and again. Media matters debunked your claims a year ago.

Look at these graphs and tell me things are not better.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

For an articulate and fascinating look at the state of our political races, in particular the Republican primary, spend a few minutes listening to this segment of Moyers & Company. This program should be required viewing before voting!!!

http://billmoyers.com/segment/kathleen-hall-jamieson-on-campaign-misinformation/

I find it appalling that Santorum is in the same species. The tea party hero Reagan was one of the greatest diplomats we have ever seen and yet Santorum thinks diplomacy is a bad thing? What does he suggest we go to war with every country of the world? The man is a complete idiot, how could the republicans possibly see him as better than Romney? Not that I would vote for any republican at this point in history but Romney at least isn't a complete nut job.

By the way, did it slip by everyone that the terrorist arrested in the sting that took place yesterday at the Capitol, was here on an expired visa from 1999! We rant and rave about illegals coming over the border, but it take INS 13 years to follow up on expired visas of those already in the country?!?!

This ridiculous Rolling Clown Show of GOPER Candidate's make me feel less safe. The whole world is watching and I just wonder if the groups against America are embolden by the Stupidity of these Clowns.

Please someone explain to me how hating other countries and making them hate us puts us in a safer position? Santorum fails at knowing foreign policy, he fails at being a human being. He is by far the worst candidate that the republicans have put up there and that includes the bozo Cain who quoted pokemon and used a sims game tax plan.

I will stay tuned as I try to figure out whether Rick Santorum is stupid and ridiculous, or just ridiculous. I do know that most of what he says can't be taken seriously by thinking people but that may mean that he is tactical, rather than empty-headed himself. He throws out a stream of untruths and embarrassing hysteria which are somewhat successful for him in the primary setting. I can't see how his positions can possibly be altered for a general election campaign.

Rick Santorum, and his religious beliefs would put us into a WWIII.

The ONLY chance we (the U.S) have is by electing a president who has the American People and its country, and its best interest at heart.
The only man for that job is Ron Paul!!!!!

Here's some numbers.....

When Bush took office unemployment was at 4.2%, when he left office unemployment was at 7.8%

In eight years, the net jobs gained under Bush: 1.1 million. That averages to be 137,500 jobs added per YEAR, not month, but year.

Figures depend on where and what data you look at. Figures gleaned from any data depends upon the start/end points chosen. The figures above are based on data found at the OFFICIAL government Bureau of Labor Statistics site.

as far as the economy is concerned these right wing guys are a laugh a minute. They forget that the recession started under Bush, not Obama (800,000 jobs lost before he took office). This is a world wide recession, not just one hitting this country! If you asked a Republican Governor ( atleast most), if they are responsible for the recession in their state they automatically say they are not responsible, that the blame goes to the Federal Gov't and President Obama. So now as various economic numbers are improving, we have Republican Governors like Christie in New Jersey running commercials taking all the credit for their states turnaround. Amazing! I wish I could do that at my job, take no blame when things go bad, but get all the credit when things improve. gotta love it.

Eric-913730.....

BTW, Erico.....the Mini you are using is a COPYWRITED picture of Microsoft Windows 7 operating system.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA...unbelievable, only a right-winger republican or tea-pubulican could make a statement like that and actually believe it themselves or think educated people would believe that crap....the real question is: How low would they really go because he's pretty much in the gutter along with the rest of them?? Imagine that, a so called Christian lying through his teeth...Oh, I forgot, If you believe it, it must be true, HAHAHAHHAAA!!...Now you see why the KOOK Santorum lost his last Seante race by 19 points, even the people in his own state knows he's delusional....I'm beginning to think we need to start testing LSD again and chill these KOOKS out for awhile!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012....KICKING ASS and TAKING NAMES

So you have a woman who is forced to bare a child she doesn't want and chooses to leave the hospital without. Let's say this child is not a perfect child and will need medical attention for the remainder of it's life. Who is going to pick up the cost. The father? We can't get divorced fathers and some mothers to pay child support so how is this child going to be supported. Will we create orphanages to house and raise these children, will we put them into foster care while cutting back on employees doing these jobs. And why should anyone who is not Catholic have to obey the Catholic doctrine.This man has a screw loose.

Prez O is smart. He doesn't have to seriously campaign; Just let these RepublicanCrimeCartelThugClowns go public with their unacceptably criminal behavior, and Voila!!!!!

There they are!!!: All TV'd Up! Like Dracula, Frankenstein and The WolfMan; MittTaxPittance Rommel, THEGangrene and, last BUT NOT in the least, The WolfManVomitorium! YESSSSSS!!!!! First off is DRAC: aka MittTaxPittanceRommel, Who will START A WAR WITH Iran, And A very Profitable War for his RepublicanCrimeCartelCorporateMasters AT THAT!! The Count was "nice enough" to expose his taxes!! Hmmm...Let Me See Now...Drac paid 13% on $42,000,000 income EEEZZZZ MONEY: About 5million AND!!! WE American Taxpayer Victims PAID The Count's REMAINING $7,800,000 Tax Liability!!!! Thanks for SUCKING US Dry Drac!!! AND Aren't We "LittlePeople" Thrilled that The Count is nice enough to Let US have the Honor of Paying His Taxes!! He WILL ALLOW Even, the Poor, Whom HE HAS STATED He "DOES NOT CARE ABOUT" To coughUp his Tax Liability!; 'Long as they got A BloodyJob with deductions Drac can get his FANGS into their BloodMoney as small as it might be!
Then There is Frankenstein, err...THEGangrene who, with his department store mannequin "Other Half", will turn to Destructive Rage at the drop of a wrong word or moment!!! EGADZ, This SelfEntitled Creature of Pleasure will Start A War for his RepublicanCorporateMasters AnyWhere, AnyHow, AnyWay, EVEN On The Moon!, as long as there is profit and Franky gets a stipend from it!!! ANYTHING TheGangrene Touches will Putrify and Rot like what is left of OUR AmericanBodyPolitic!!! Watch Franky TRY to Come alive with "lightening" speed at the RepublicanNationalCrimeCartelConvention!!!
Now Comes The WolfMan Vomitorium... What Can be said!! Such a Goot'Lookin'Boy! Ooh Facime! What A Face!! how could he do Anything Unsavory!!! BUT When The CORPORATE SYMBOLS rise in his eyes TheVomitorium begins his hungry and Very Hairy Growling for American Taxpayer's Blood!!!!
Yes!! THERE is your victim Wolfy!! Go and Savage It WolfMan with BloodLust Fangs and All! Our American UniversalHealthCare System!! All of OUR Allys have it, EVEN the TowelHeads Have A NationalHealthCareSystem!, This Political Beast Savaged and ALSO Struck down OUR Bill for AnAmericanNationalHealthCareSystem!!! Then, when The Killing Is Over, Out Steps The 'A nica'Boy Vomitorium; Ooohh!! How CleanCut!! Yes And so are His savage sever wounds on OUR AmericanHealthCareBill!!!!Brother And Sister American Putting these guys In Power is Having Dracula Guard our BloodBanks!!! You Saw What the Count Did......

You can also start the month after the Bush tax cuts (in effect may 2003) in june unemployment was 6.3 and go a full presidential term of 4 years. Those years had no major events to disrupt the economy and after 4 years the rate was 4.4 in May of 2007.

@Jan its more jealousy than hate, like a reversed psychology! they all want what we have they just don't have the means to get it together, so their worthless rulers try to breed the hate to make the US a Villon, in reality they want to move here and have a chance at the good life. do you pay any attention to the world? Just look at some of the leaders. Don't count Europe's position because they are rivals not enemies, The ME is full of fanatics screw them, they hate everybody, Venezuela has mixed feelings Chavez plays on the uneducated poor the shrinking middle class is pro American, Iran and North Korea well they can speak for themselves, personally as long as my life is good I don't give a damn what some Dictator forces his people to reflect because I know the Dictator is covering up his own inabilities. and I don't have to bow down to the SOB. Obama will have us do that. Why should we apologize to them for being screwed up its their fault.

It's amazing when any Republican criticizes President Obama on foreign policy, and that goes for the Cheneys too -- the GOP screwed up royal with Iraq. You had your chance -- you don't get to dictate foreign policy any more. And Santorum with his itchy trigger finger, like he is supposed to make the US "safer?"

Try as Santorum may to pivot away from his theocratic views, Republicans screwed up the economy too. And when they got back in power in 2010 on promises of job creation, what did they do? How many chances do they think they should get?

Stick with the radical religious issues -- it's the only thing the GOP/TP can claim as an area of expertise. Losers.

Yo' republican voters - save yourselves some time and gas money and just stay home! Insane-torum and his ilk(Mitt,Newt and Ron) are NOT worthy of your vote! If you believe these lying hypocrites will magically make your life rich and happy - you are all in for a rude awakening! Y'all be dragging this whole country back to 13th century serfdom.

I see Ido and D Buck are here to spread their ignorance and hate. The GOP is fast becoming a party of morons - Oh I guess Ido and D Buck are perfect fits! Santorum becomes more pathetic each time he opens his mouth. Romney is totally out of touch with reality and the others - who even remembers them. We have a great President - intelligent and articulate. The intelligent part scares posters like D. Buck and Ido. No wonder!

Maybe RS is refering to the proposed funding cuts this year for the border patrol. Or the previous years he has tried to cut the number of agents? He has proposed limiting their overtime to a certain amount of hours. For example, they get a max of 2 hours, even if they are involved in an altercation that goes 4 hours past their shift's end. Basically working for free after 10 hours. Needless to say the unions are going nuts over this but i haven't heard a peep on the news on this.

Or cutting the number of our troops by 10,000?

Good to see you again Patriot.

You do realize the R's only have one of three branches necessary to pass a bill?

So the senate has been in Dem control since the 2006 elections and the house all but one year, and the R's get 1/3 of the branches and they are supposed to be job mesiah's?

Do you know how many bills the R's sent to the Senate last year? 30

As we all know Dems have the senate and can add ANY ammendmants they want to those and send them back to the house or go to conference. Do you know how many Reid even took up last year? Only 3!

That's right, 27 (90%) of the bills to hit his desk he wouldn't even open them for debate, ammendmants or a vote.

@Seeking Sanity keep looking you might find it some day, in the mean time try working on your comprehension and try to understand what it is that you just read. or do we have to read it to you, I in no way endorsed anyone, I only commented on what we already have is nothing. what scares people like you is that your Socialist agenda is at risk every time we have a election. What part about "I don't know who to vote for", justifies your right to put words into that statement saying I support anyone? Screw you and your twisted mentality. if a liberal could make a statement without twisting the hell out of everything I would be more inclined to listen to what they have to say.

BigATC-- Aside from having no credibility just with the term "mesiah," how many times does this need to be explained to people like you?

The Judicial Branch currently is right-leaning. The White House does not pass bills, only possible veto and influence in setting an agenda. In Congress, the Dems had a narrow majority after 2006, which was not enough to overcome a filibusters. The Dems only had a Super Majority of 60 votes for about nine months--until Scott Brown took Ted Kennedy's seat.

In 2010, the Teapublicans won the house with an historical majority, and enough seats in the Senate to make that about 50/50. Then with continued record abuse of the filibuster in the Senate, Teapublicans have made it necessary to have a Super Majority of 60 votes on all legislation to get anything passed.

To top that off, the Teapublican House submits legislation so extreme (and minus Democrat input) they know it can never pass. And as if that's not bad enough, they recycle the same crap by slapping a new label on it. The Balanced Budget Amendment is an example, which not only is unconstitutional, but is draconian "starve the beast" anarchy they knew could never pass. Then they put it in a so-called "jobs" bill and tried to pass it again.

Pelosi passed over 300 bills in her first term, much of which was significant heavy-lift legislation. Boehner and the Teapublicans work only two weeks then take a week off. Don't bug me again with your boohoo excuses and lies -- Homey don't play that game.

If the American people want to see any progress, they need to throw the Do Nothing Teapublican obstructionists out. Obama/Biden - 2012!

What makes me really feel less safe, is all these wacko teabaggers running around spewing their hate and ignorance, while strapped to a gun.

A balanced budget ammendmant, i.e. spending within our means, is "draconian" LOL

So how do we know if these bills won't pass if Reid doesn't open them and get his version of what it should be in there and take it to conference? That's what mine and your tax dollars pay him to do. So he is to just sit there and say "NO"

I just find it ammusing you find all the fault with one party having 1 of the 3 necessary branches to affect a bill into law. Yet you don't find any fault with one party having all 3 for 2 years, including the 9 month super majority you mention.

Since you refer to me as a liar, exactly what did i lie about.

BigATC -- I see you subscribe to Roy's school of Selective Economics, STATS and Theories. Using only partial data that fits a narrative is no better than the lousy ads put out by politicians to fool the lemmings. It may fool a few of the low information voters, but smart people know BS when they see it.

if you pass a balanced budget amendment then you would never be able to respond to natural disasters or aid of any sort. not even war. this is the most ignorant thing you could do. the only reason the republikans want it is to stop the democrats from governing like democrats. then when they get all the levers of government they will want to repeal it. this is something that will never ever pass the senate. you need 67 votes to do it then 37 states after that. keep dreaming.

Name one time in the last 20 years that the French stood by us with anything," Santorum said.

France has had troops in Aghanistan as part of NATO for 10 years and has suffered its share of combat deaths and casualties. It also played a major role in Libya along with Britain. Santorum is either a clueless moron or he's playing to the Republican base, which seems to consist mostly of clueless morons.

dji, the proposals in the past have had contingencies for this as there is always unexpected disasters, military actions, etc.

Don't carry, i only put up the 4 years to point out what you are pointing out as the others were picking out specific things. Hence i started "you can also"...... People do that all the time is was just throwing out another example

Take it for what you will, it was just 4 years in between recessions.

BigATC --

By pointing out my point of how data sets can be skewed, something Roy likes to do, I will vote you up.

Cheers! ; )

Santorum: Obama makes US 'less safe'

Saintorum does not make me feel safe the way he talks about gay people and women. This man is a freaking religious nutcase that needs to be in a mental ward, not the WH.

I'm confused by little Ricky. Obama whacked Osama and a lot of the other baddies...so how exactly did he make us less safe???

Q: How do you know when Santorum is lying?

A: His lips are moving.

Might I remind TheVomitorium that Prez O, with Our Great Special Ops People, has taken out more AlQaida @$$H0Les In His FIRST TERM, then KingGeorge The Vacuum Brained EVER in Both of his terms of his Shameful Shrubber Reign. NADA ZIP NotOne 2001-2008. Obama NAILS Osama and high ranking islamic geeks, who are GONE thanks to PrezO. KingGeorge is his father's Idiot Son and a Born Loser who NEVER accomplished anything..."Daddy" bought them ALL for theKing

Roy- here's a bit more to add to your statistics:

Bush's last year:

Jan 2008, 138,080,000 jobs

Jan 2009, 133,549,000 job (Net loss of 4.5 mil)

Our low point was Jan 2010, with 129.28 mil jobs (additional 4.27 mil loss)

As of December, we're at 132.16 mil jobs, which is only 1.38 mil less than when Obama started, and we're continuing to improve.

BigATC -- It is a lie to say Democrats have had control of everything since 2006. The Dems had control of Congress for nine months, period. Also, even you admit Teapublicans have submitted only 30 or so bills compared to the 300+ passed during Pelosi's first term. Once again a fact (Google it), and even if Reid is denying a "conference," the GOP/TP still have only submitted a handful of bills. Research the "conference" crap too -- That is BS from Boehner to cover his arse for Doing Nothing (there's no such thing a the "conference" he refers to).

And why aren't you and other conservatives outraged that the Teapublican House takes one week off for two weeks "worked," and that all they have done is name buildings and a measly amount of other POS legislation? Look that up as well.

dji

if you pass a balanced budget amendment then you would never be able to respond to natural disasters or aid of any sort. not even war. this is the most ignorant thing you could do. the only reason the republikans want it is to stop the democrats from governing like democrats.

Exactly. The founding fathers gave the power of the purse to Congress with intention of law-making being as messy as sausage making, but more importantly to preserve our Republic system for democracy per REPRESENTATION by elected officials. Really, what the Republicans want is a one-party autocracy (with them in charge, of course--like the Soviet Union, etc.) while Teabaggers want complete anarchy -- Spending at only 16% of GDP would result in anarchy.

The Teapublicans are borderline treasonous, seriously. And who in their right mind would want the GOP/TP back in charge of the economy let alone foreign policy after so many failures? Throw the Teapublicans out!

TruePatriot - I agree with some of what you said in the last post; but, I want to make some points.

There is a difference between a conservative Republican and the ultra-conservative zealots popularly known as the "Tea Party." To me, many of the views of the Tea Party seem more like the views of Libertarians than that of true Republicans. Personally - when I argue politics, I usually spend more time arguing with Tea Party supporters than I do with liberals. And I AM outraged at the antics of the Tea Party and the Republican politicians that follow their lead.

Stating that what "Republicans" want is to have a one party system is as ridiculous a claim as any made by Tea Party supporters (though I can believe that about most of the Tea Party supporters themselves - and their Democratic counterparts); but, I admit that I too sometimes wonder about whether or not our leadership feels that way. A multi-party system is necessary to represent the concerns of non-Republican Americans (and their concerns deserve to be represented in legislation as well). We all want what's best for the country - we simply believe in different ways to achieve that (and those ways are not always as different as people like to make them out to be).

I agree with you about the anarchy that would ensue if the Tea Party (and Libertarian) goals were realized as they present them. Most of the Tea Party views seem to simplistic to me, and you can't apply simple solutions to complex problems. That is why I argue with them. Personally, I think that the Tea Party is like spoiled little children that don't play well with others (including other Republicans) - they need to be sent to their rooms and leave governing the country to the adults.

kaybeetoys

I'm confused by little Ricky. Obama whacked Osama and a lot of the other baddies...so how exactly did he make us less safe???

Q: How do you know when Santorum is lying?

A: His lips are moving.

thumbs-up Kaybeetoys

"Rick Santrojan is the answer to Contraception" ?

Humm France! Do I recall that the Emperor, King, PM, President or whatever of France was the guy who did the heavy lifting for NATO a couple of months ago when the world decided that it was time for the cold blooded Killer Kadaffy to exit stage right?

Apparently the Honorable ex-senator Sanctimonium believes that if it ain't red white and blue blood, it don't count.

Not only, but rumor has it that the dastardly pinko Willard speaks French.

@loyaltexan,

France has dropped out of NATO in 1966 when it developed its own nukes and the three necessary delivery systems. France returned to full NATO membership in April 2009. The Libyan conflict raised serious questions about NATO's ability to conduct even the most rudimentary military operations without US leadership, money, equipment (such as aircraft carriers) and personnel. NATO, even with France's resumption of membership proved to be inept and blundering and extremely dependent on the US to pull its potatoes out of the fire.

Loyal Texan, you are absolutely correct! Another time that France has stood by us, oh maybe the fact that they have been with us in the war in Afghanistan from day one, and they still have troops there now! Santorum, like Bachman, just makes crap up to sound good to the people he is speaking without any knowledge!

@Chris, yes Libya was such a blunder that it worked and we won without troops on the ground.

Sheesh.

Chris, FWIW, the French national colors are also red, white and blue. As for NATO operations in Libya, those were French Air Force aircraft operating in Libya, not USAF. Not exactly inept and blundering based on the outcome.

What I can't believe is there are (STILL)...(bush got re-elected right?) people that are so stupid as too believe this CRAP

I didn't live when they burned witches...but I bet...It was so STUPID

What is wrong with religious people

mac - nothing except a total lack of brains. Religiozombies - all they want is brains

Put a leash on the mouthy liberals that want to destroy America, you will never have to worry about a civil war in this country. I'm sick of people trying to turn America into a third world socialist state. America is made up of trail blazer's not followers. let the pioneers do their thing and earn their way,you sheeple well you just stay with the herd. and if you don't find greener pastures well that's to bad, but at any rate stop holding us back because I'm an old fashioned American and I only know one direction and that is forward, Obama has no forward gears he only has reverse and neutral, if he ever moves forward its only because while he was backing up a hill he accidentally shifted into neutral and coasted a little. I can't wait till we have a real leader to guide us instead of some one who just wants to please everyone. Screw that fantasy utopia it does not exist.

Dbuck - you got it all wrong. Wake up and see the light. FACT is: it's the Greedy Obstructionist party that is taking this country backwards! The GOP'ers believe their base are idiot lemmings, and cannot see what the rest of this country, and the world can truly see. They say crap about smaller government, but the hidden truth is they want control for their true masters - the Koch Bros, the oil tycoons, lobbyists, banks, insurance and drug companies. Thus they want America to be stupid, so much easier to control.

Sorry to disappoint you but liberals aren't trying to destroy America nor turn it into a third world country. We too want America to move forward and we think that path means investing in things like infra structure and alternative energy and a better educated work force. You've got to quit thinking that just because we don't want to move ahead in a covered wagon with our pitchfork in one hand and a bible in the other that we're not real Americans.

D B / I think that you should stop watching your comic book westerns and study the real world. Read Bob L .I would merely be repetitious if I bothered to explain we Liberals to you.

Nice selective memory. Regan was no national hero. His actions lead to some of the worse fiscal crimes committed by big business. His voodoo economics was a farce, which only enriched the already wealthy and powerful. And he should have gone to prison for Iran-contra, either for his involvement or for being asleep at the wheel, which he was most of his terms, the 2nd term was when his dementia became overtly obvious. He should have gone to prison for his secret dealing with the Iranian terrorists holding 444 Americans while Carter was President. He had little to do with ending the cold war, it simply the American cold war machine outspending the USSR for 4 decades, and their own internal dissent between the nation states.

And here are a few more fun facts.

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile,state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan wasnever afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.

2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.” Reagan enacted a major tax cut his first year in office and government revenue dropped off precipitously. Despite the conservative myth that tax cuts somehow increase revenue, the government went deeper into debt and Reagan had to raise taxes just a year after he enacted his tax cut. Despite ten more tax hikes on everything from gasoline to corporate income, Reagan was never able to get the deficit under control.

3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxedthe poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted.

4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. Reagan promised “to move boldly, decisively, and quickly to control the runaway growth of federal spending,” but federal spending “ballooned” under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future. He promised to cut government agencies like the Department of Energy and Education but ended up adding one of the largest — the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which today has a budget of nearly $90 billion and close to 300,000 employees. He also hiked defense spending by over $100 billion a year to a level not seen since the height of the Vietnam war.

5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose. As governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed a bill to liberalize the state’s abortion laws that “resulted in more than a million abortions.” When Reagan ran for president, he advocated a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, but once in office, he “never seriously pursued” curbing choice.

6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” He wrote in his memoirs that “[m]y dream…became a world free of nuclear weapons.” “This vision stemmed from the president’s belief that the biblical account of Armageddon prophesied nuclear war — and that apocalypse could be averted if everyone, especially the Soviets, eliminated nuclear weapons,” the Washington Monthly noted. And Reagan’s military buildup was meant to crush the Soviet Union, but “also to put the United States in a stronger position from which to establish effective arms control” for the the entire world — a vision acted out by Regean’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, when he became president.

7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed into law a bill that made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty. The bill was sold as a crackdown, but its tough sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants were removed before final passage. The bill helped 3 million people and millions more family members gain American residency. It has since become a source of major embarrassment for conservatives.

8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran. Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly sold arms to officials in Iran, which was subject to a an arms embargo at the time, in exchange for American hostages. Some funds from the illegal arms sales also went to fund anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua — something Congress had already prohibited the administration from doing. When the deals went public, the Iran-Contra Affair, as it came to be know, was an enormous political scandal that forced several senior administration officials to resign.

9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. which placed sanctions on South Africa and cut off all American trade with the country. Reagan’s veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Senate. Reagan responded by saying “I deeply regret that Congress has seen fit to override my veto,” saying that the law “will not solve the serious problems that plague that country.”

10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along

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along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagan’s decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.

Reagan was a brain addled fool. We were very lucky to have survived his tenure.

Egilman It was actually a free trade union called Solidarity that brought down the Soviet Union. How soon we forget history and believe myth. Look up Lech Walesa, not Ronald Reagan. But like most conservatives, you probably are anti-union.

The stupidly of Rick Santorum reminds me so much of Bush, and we are still paying in lives for his lies and deceit! I don't know where these people come from, the only thing I can guess is quality in politicians are at a high time low!

Dear Lord, please let the other 98% of the people see the danger of these republicans. Just how many innocent people are going to have to die because these people are really dangerous to humanity!

Reagan did not do the middle class any favors with union busting,wage freezes. He was a terrible president.They have gotten progressively worst since then.

If you think anything Zewt posted is wrong, Egilman, then state what specifically is wrong with it. If pointless drivel about how everyone "loved" Reagan is all you've got, you would have been better off saying nothing.

Regan ended the cold war? The world, the people, from a humble shipyard worker in Gdansk, Poland to civil unrest in the Soviet States, Give credit to corruption. Give credit for peace in east Europe to Brezhnev, Gorbachev, and the millions of citizens who had enough.

Eagle Shadow,

You mean....make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. But I understand where you're coming from. If he runs on that platform, HE.....WILL.....LOSE....PERIOD!!!

Let's be honoset then - if Reagan can't have credit for a role in ending the cold war, then Bush can't get blamed for 9-11 or Katrina. You can't have it both ways.

All the partisans come running now. The truth is YOU are ruining the country...both sides.

'Tear down this wall' is the entirety of Ronny's bit part in ending the cold war. Talk about a prez who was fully asleep at the switch! Great Communicator? He couldn't even tie his own shoes...

Lets also remember that Reagan gave us the now $2.7 trillion "Social Security Trust Fund." That "trust fund" was the brainchild of his "Greenspan Commission" in 1981. What it did was shift Social Security premium revenues into general tax revenues to mask some of his deficit spending. Today it is the amount we owe ourselves - a $2.7 trillion debt of American workers which is a significant percentage of our $15 trillion national debt.

Jimmy Carter was actually the president who began increasing Defense spending to provide improved capabilities to defray the existential threat posed by the then Soviet Union. Additionally, intelligence community studies in the late 1970s suggested that the Soviet Union could not sustain its military growth beyond the middle of the 1980s. It would be either use them or collapse. It collapsed, thanks much to the US military capabilities increases initiated by Carter and later sustained by Reagan since the weapons systems had already been authorized.

Reagan was great for bringing cocaine into the inner cities to replace the easily affordable pot that was available in the 70's. Pot tripled in price and crack was cheap. Cocaine contra connection?

The wall didn't come down until Reagan was out of office.

Ahhh, Bill. How do you make that kind of connection? Sorry, it makes zero sense. There's no having it both ways. These are facts that shouldn't be in dispute. I kind of feel bad for you. That's a connection that you'll never pull off.

Gorbachev had more to do with the ending of the Cold War than Reagan. The Soviet Union was drowning in their own economic turmoil, and so Gorbachev proposed economic and political reforms designed to bring the country into the 80's. However, I doubt even he would have predict how rapidly the desire for freedom would have busted down the door that he only opened slightly, starting in Eastern Europe then continuing into Russia itself. It was also Gorbachev that extended the olive branch by offering to engage in nuclear arms reductions treaties. Reagan was adept enough to see an opportunity and take advantage of it.

Egilman

Obama's foreign policy isn't better than Reagan's by far in fact it's quite a bit worse

Think about what you're saying. How did Reagan get the "wall" down? By engaging the Soviet Union (our enemy at the time). How many full wars did Reagan start (none) ... versus covert action (Contra)? Did Reagan speak as a war monger or as a peacemaker (guess)?

It does no good to sit here and try to judge who is better... they live(d) in different times. No, the best thing to do is to realize the similarities and admire what good they had/have done.

Obama stands on his record on this one.

Whenever I think of Reagan, I think of air traffic controllers, jelly beans and trickle down economics.

Reaganomics was the start of Americas down fall and the GOP love it.

Rick Santorum said elect me and l will fill Reagan's old jelly bean jars with Aspirins ?

Oh, I remember when Reagan was in office. I learned a lot about what works in this country, what doesn't, and how many lies will be told to get people to vote a certain way.

When Reagan was president there were lines around the building and down the city street on the sidewalk....at the employment office! The unemployment rate was 20% in my town then and all we heard was how trickle-down would get to us. It didn't and still doesn't, and yes, I remember Reagan. He taught me a lot, but not what he intended to I'm sure.

Oh, and I saw video of him sitting in meetings and speaking and told me ex husband that that man looks totally out of it and like he has dementia of some type. So yeah, Reagan. Unimpressed.

Two of the idiotic Republicans are a real danger to the world. Santorum and Gingrich should never be in any office let alone the Presidency. Zewt is right too, Reagan wasn't a conservative but a Neo-con and Neo-cons suck!

Reagan gets a lot of credit for fixing the economy but he really didn't fix the economy. Cocaine fixed the economy. It was all of the money made off drugs in the late 70's and 80's that was being spent that fixed the economy and when Reagan cracked down on drugs and started seizing and tracking money the economy went south.

Egilman It was actually a free trade union called Solidarity that brought down the Soviet Union

Solidarity couldn't have done it on their own--the Soviet Union could have smashed them easily a decade before, but thanks to Reagan's arms race the Soviets were in a financially weakened conditon. The Georgians and other former victims of the Soviets had NO problem attributing the breakdown of that empire to Reagan, which is why they build statues and monuments to him. I have a feeling they have a better grasp of the situation than the average knee jerk left wing Viner, most of whom either weren't even born during his administration, or who else they hated him for not being "cool". And BTW, I was just out of college during his first term recession and was living in DC when he froze federal hiring. It's possible that these actions had a seriously negative impact on my lifelong career, but since I'm no narcissist, I accept that the fate of millions in Eastern Europe and Asia is much more important than my failure to get a dream job as a biologist at the EPA or FDA.

And don't forget about the L.A. Riots and the soaring crime during the Reagan tenure too.

Crime is nearly 100% a function of demographics, not economics. Think about it--if you were born in, say, 1959, you were in your early twenties during his first administration, the perfect age for crime. The population has been aging ever since. The LA riots had nothing to do with the recession. If they did, why aren't people rioting in ghettos right now? Do you have any idea what the unemployment rate is among black youths?

Cocaine fixed the economy. It was all of the money made off drugs in the late 70's and 80's that was being spent that fixed the economy

Okay, then, be a patriotic American and use as many illegal drugs as you can get your hands on. /sarcasm

From your post it appears you are on your way to being a truly great American.

Why call it trickle down economics? Let's just call it "golden rain". From the top 1%.

When is the media going to get some balls and simply disprove all the GOP lies in their statements and more so in their 'quotes' of Pres Obama/the Obama Administration. Whether it's Santorum, Gingrich, or Romney...someone needs to call these a-holes out directly on the misrepresentations rather than let them pass. Come on MSNBC, CNN, DNC...put these f-ers on the spot. Santorum's quote in the article above is not accurate...there are hundreds of examples of these lies and misrepresentations. Treat it like a courtroom...call out the lie and make a definitive point!!! The GOP candidates and their mindless followers might just take notice.

Egilman? Reagan universally loved?

You are saying things I know about but I don't remember them quite like you do. Just so you know, I worked on all three of Reagan's campaign's for President and George Bush Sr's also I think I might have been a little closer to it that you were.

I'm not going to respond to it all, there is no point, and I do not want to argue. But I will re-post something I posted a few days ago concerning how the world felt abut Reagan...

I occcasionally see Reagan dogged or the question raised on why we as americans love him so much.

I really don't have the answer but I do know one thing, People all around the world love Ronald Reagan, want proof?

President Unveils Monument to Reagan

Isn't it a wonder how everyone around the world loved Ronald Reagan just as much as they loved Jack Kennedy?

I think that link speaks for itself and what I posted above.....

I think not. Maybe for his cute movies with a monkey.

I traveled to AUS in 2001, and was surprised on visiting downtown Melbourne to find a large statue and memorial to JFK. Some thing I had never seen in American cities.

I questioned an Australian friend there at the time and he said JFK never even set foot in AUS, but was massively popular. And this friend had also been a fan, and had studied and knew his speeches, something I had never done.

To paraphase one infamous event, Ronny Raygun was no JFK. No matter how much Raygun tried to duplicate JFKs style, including Raygun sorry copy of JFK at the Berlin wall.

Egilman - ah ha! You worked for the GOP campaigns - that explains your non-ending lies about Obama. And, your non-ending boasts (also lies) about Regan! Remember Granada - the country we invaded just to make Regan look like something - not sure what? Please just go away. Your campaigning for these two fools is nothing to brag about. Although, I'll admit, Bush Sr. was ten times better than his stupid offspring!

nice try Zewt, you couldn't carry Regan's jock.

Your failed to mention he had a democrat controlled congress.

Roy - well how about these numbers (particularly the charts on unemployment rate, employment/population ratio, and long term unemployed):

http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2009/03/art1full.pdf

I think we would could have done without the last 12 years - in total.

Ronald Reagan was no JFK. I may not have lived in either of their presidencies, but I know someone who did (well, not in the United States for JFK...). That guy told me of how JFK was the darling of the world. He made America seem appealing to everyone, Americans and non-Americans alike. His presidency was America's peak. We faced a lot of troubles then, but JFK gave hope to the one people who up until then had been ignored; the youth. JFK was not an old guy. At his death he was approximately 46. He seemed like your older brother; cool, young, and modern.

Reagan, not so much. He was charismatic and affable, plus his fierceness when angered can be admired. However, he wasn't the best when it came to economics. Encouraging economic growth through emphasis on investments is one thing, but this guy took it to a whole new level. Tax cuts for the wealthy only work if applied to things like investments, and even then one must be careful so to avoid greater income inequality. But Reagan went too far. He tripled the national debt even after the economy recovered and spent too much on defense. He wasn't the cause of the USSR's fall; corruption in the Soviet government, people's movements like Solidarity and the Catholic Church, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Soviet economic decline, and a huge overemphasis on defense and industry and not enough on the welfare of the Soviet people did the USSR in. Sure, Reagan did have an impact, but he isn't the sole cause of the Cold War's end.

And Reagan didn't give much help to the poor people of the nation (check unemployment); nor did he balance the budget like he promised. He even raised taxes 11 times and STILL couldn't do it. And FYI, Reagan was once a Democrat with some liberal views. The GOP has taken Reaganism and Reaganomics to a whole new level. We must stop the tax breaks, balance our budget through BALANCED measures, stop the wars, invest in our economy, and keep the GOP from compromising the recovery. They don't know how to fix an economy and they have done a pretty damn good job holding the recovery up.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

No, zewt, those are merely statements--not facts. Cite the third party sources to elevate your statements' value.

Don't mistake the intent, I am not a republican supporter. Nor, democratic. Both parties have robbed the citizenry blind and both have out lived their usefulness. Participants in each party gave taxpayer money to their own special (undeserving) interests, cronies, family, friends and supporters. Only a damned fool would vote for either lying party. The guy next door could run the government better than these carpetbaggers. Anyone can be a bad representative as are the Washington politicians.

The Navy should erect yardarms outside of the Senate and House to remind the rats inside whose country they are residing in.

and let's not forget how afganistan sent the soviet union into bankruptcy. reagan had little to do with the downfall. it's right wing BS. and he was lucky to not be impeached for iran/ contra. he came so close that he and his aids were up nights about it. plus the fact that he had alzheimers the last few years. and that came from his son ron.

I wasn't going to get to involved in this discussion - yet here I am. My two favorite presidents were Kennedy and Reagan - Kennedy because he appealed to my ideals; and Reagan because we live in the real world. I apologize in advance for the long post - but it's best to get it all out in one shot.

I find it funny and pathetic that most Tea Party supporters idolize Reagan without actually understanding his policies and goals (they certainly aren't the same as the Tea Party's). I also find it funny and pathetic that many liberals equally misunderstand his policies and therefore vilify the man. Did Reagan lower taxes? Yes - but not the way most Tea Party supporters think. Did Reagan raise taxes? Yes - but not the way most liberals think. Reagan raised and lowered taxes simultaneously. How? Reagan lowered the tax rates for all; but he also eliminated many of the loopholes and tax shelters used by the rich (in effect raising their taxes). The tax rate for a family making $25k in 1980 (adjusted for inflation) was 18% - it was 15% in 1988. Similarly the rate for a family making $50k went from 24% to 15%, 75K went from 32% to 28%, and $100k went from 43% to 28%. The only people making below $100K a year for whom taxes actually went up was the lowest two brackets which increased to 15% (but only in the last two years) - this is still 25% less taxes than they were paying under Kennedy (20%). In addition Reagan reduced the number of tack brackets from 16 in 1980 to only 2 in 1988 - and in the process he nearly doubled revenue! Reagan also enacted a policy that prevented bracket creep - a person getting thrown into a higher tax bracket because of inflation instead of an increase in real income. Who did he do that for? Certainly not the higher income earners who were already in the highest income brackets. As for corporate taxes - Reagan lowered the tax rate on businesses making under $50k (small businesses) while keeping the rates the same for larger businesses - for the first 6 years of his presidency. In 1985 he created two new upper tax levels for businesses making over $1 million dollars (the first time this was done). Businesses making $1-$1.4 million dollars were charged 5% higher taxes than they had paid before (the highest since 1969). Reducing taxes on the lower income levels (with the aforementioned exception), closing tax loopholes, increasing effective taxes for the rich (by closing shelters), protecting the income of the lower income levels from bracket creep, simplifying the tax code, lowering taxes on small businesses, raising revenue - what do liberals find objectionable about this?

I also find it pathetic that supporters of the Tea Party are so quick to find excuses for the lame president Bush (in my opinion the worst president since Grant) and even more eager to put blame on Obama. To counter the often unwarranted blame being placed by the Tea Party, the liberals whine about how Obama inherited the recession, and how it takes time and money to fix a broken economy. But, I think that it is very interesting that the liberals do the exact same thing to Reagan that they complain of the Tea Party doing to Obama. Reagan inherited a recession that began 1979-1980 (Reagan took office Jan. 1981). The recession started in part because of the 1979 energy crisis (due to the Iranian revolution), followed by the near elimination of oil exports by Iran and Iraq when they went to war with each other in 1980 at the same time that Saudi Arabia cut oil production by about 70%. The drop in GDP in the second quarter of 1980 was the worst since the Great Depression. So if the liberals want Obama to get a pass from blame because he inherited his recession, why do they not accord the same courtesy to Reagan? I've heard it said that Reagan's spending during his recession ruined the country - even though Obama has spent more than twice as much in less than half the time (adjusted for inflation) - yet we are supposed to be OK with his spending during his recession as being good for the country. Liberals whine (and rightly so) that the GOP deny recognition to Obama's accomplishments - yet they do the very same thing to Reagan. Yes Reagan did help bring about the end of the Cold War by forcing the USSR to try and keep their military on par with ours at a time when they were also spending a ton of money fighting US supplied rebels in Afghanistan. Both economies were strained by the military spending; but the US was able to handle it while the USSR ultimately could not. Seriously people - enough with the double standards - either deny both presidents the excuse of an inherited recession and judge them both on what they do after taking office - or allow that both got handed a bad situation and cut them both some slack. Give credit where it is due (regardless of party) and place blame just as equitably - or don't whine when your actions get mirrored right back to you.

Now to address zewt's points:

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser - Reagan lowered the tax burden on the middle class, alleviated the problem of being forced into a higher tax bracket without making more money, reduced the number of tax loopholes, increased taxes on the rich (by reducing shelters), made the tax code simpler - all while increasing the federal tax receipts (federal govt. income) from $517.1 billion to $909.2 billion (2005 dollars) - Why are the liberals complaining about this?

2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit - Reagan increased the debt by $1.34 trillion in 8 years (2.47 trillion in 2010 dollars); Obama increased the debt by $3.57 trillion in just his first two years.

3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Jumped? Get Real. ERTA was enacted in Aug. of 1981 and the unemployment rate didn't hit 10.8% until 15 months later - that is hardly a "jump." Furthermore - 2 years after unemployment hit it's highest under Reagan, it had dropped 3.2% - back down below what it was when he became president. When Reagan took office, unemployment was at 7.5% - peaked at 10.8% and was down to 7.3% on his 4 year anniversary. Unemployment was at 7.8% when Obama took office - peaked at a bit over 10% - and only dropped 1.1% over the next two years (a bit under 66% less of a drop than Reagan had). I don't think Obama is going to get unemployment lower than when he took office by his 4 year anniversary. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded (yeah I don't like that either; but has it gotten any better under Clinton or Obama - NO). Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class (- Bull@!$%#) “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted. - the more money you have to begin with - the faster you can make even more money. And I suppose that this is all Reagan's fault - even though Democrats have been in office for 11 of those 32 years. Well let's see - according to the Census Bureau (click on table H-9 - all races) - 1980 median income (in 2010 dollars) was $44,616 and in 2010 it was $49,445. That's strange - my calculator says that that is only an increase of 10.1% ! Well if that is so far off - I'm not going to even bother considering the rest of that BS statement! But, I will point out that 8% of that increase came between 1980 and 1988.

4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously - And I suppose that Obama is completely innocent of this? {snicker}

5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose - Again - the liberals are complaining about this why?

6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” - Well - it worked.

7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants - and Clinton's amnesties and Obama's actions are better? How?

8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran - But Reagan had someone to fall on his sword for him so it was not then "proven" - you can't sentence a man who isn't proven guilty. Clinton broke the law by committing perjury before a grand jury - yet he also got away scott free. yeah it sucks when the president can break the law and not go to jail like normal folk; but, what can ya do?

9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act - So what? It didn't stand.

10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden - Really? So do you also hold FDR responsible for post WWII communism in Russia and all the problems that came from that? After all, had FDR not given the equivalent of $174.24 billion in aid to the USSR (in today's dollars) to fight Hitler it is unlikely that they would have survived the war. He also gave $24.7 billion to China (in addition to direct US military aid) - so I guess you can blame communist China on him as well. And this is compared to the estimated $5-$38 billion that was given to the mujaheddin (that includes the money given by both presidents Carter & Reagan) - don't forget that it was president Carter who started our involvement with the Afghans.

Sheesh - I swear. I used to hold out some hope for our country because I thought that while the GOP had lost it's mind because of the Tea Party - at least the Democrats were still sane. Boy was I wrong. The Liberals are becoming just like the Tea Party. You are fast becoming two sides of the same coin. I really see little difference between you guys anymore. We could all skip along together as the country goes to hell in a hand-basket if you guys weren't so busy fighting like cats and dogs. I'm officially sick of both parties now.

And as for Santorum - he's just a simple-minded idiot like most Tea Party candidates. There is no way that I would vote for him (or any other Tea Party candidate for that matter). But, at least I know what to expect from future Democratic party candidates. A choice between tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum - wow, who should I choose?

Rick,

Thank you, I just got home and was going to respond, (mine probably would have been longer) but you just beat me to it, I was hoping for more of a response from the liberals here but alas they didn't want to play.

The tax changes were going to be a tough one for me just to re-find accurate info but I had most, thank you for a very clear explanation.

By the way, Reagan vetoed the Apartheid act because he felt that America shouldn't get involved.....

Excellent post...

Thanks, I just get so fed up with the BS coming from the TP and the LTP (Tea Party and Liberal Tea Party). I used to spend most of my time arguing with the Tea Party supporters; I guess I can expect to start spending an equal amount of time arguing with the ultra-left Liberals from now on. I wish that they would give themselves a catchy name like the ultra-right wing has - to easily differentiate between them and normal Democrats in discussions (that's probably precisely why they DON'T - smart).

Many of these bitch-fest conversations collapse in the face of hard fact - they don't have fact to back up their assertions so they just slink off; however, I have seen a few hard core idiots (on both sides) who continue to argue baseless rhetoric in the face of hard fact showing their claims to be untrue - amazing! I have really had fun playing with some of these individuals.

By the way, Reagan vetoed the Apartheid act because he felt that America shouldn't get involved.....

Ironic isn't it?

I had also wanted to say before to Oom that I had similar experiences during Reagan's time, and I have a similar outlook about it. How different things are now in today's "It's all about me" society.

Thanks guys for letting me know that I am not the only sane person left on the planet.

Amen to that!

I don't know, I have met the man yet. I have read that he served as a senator from 1995 to 2007. When he revealed his tax returns last week it showed that in the years 2011, 2010, 2009, he made well over one million dollars a year. He must be one hell of a good lawyer to be able to command fees like that or perhaps he made some good friends while he was a senator.

Just a few days ago, there was an article that Santorum paid more taxes than Romney. There was also a news bit that after the senate, he worked for a lobbyist. I think that is the typical path for former senators, congressman, congresswoman or speaker of the house like Gingrich.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA...unbelievable, only a right-winger republican or tea-pubulican could make a statement like that and actually believe it themselves or think educated people would believe that crap....the real question is: How low would they really go because he's pretty much in the gutter along with the rest of them?? Imagine that, a so called Christian lying through his teeth...Oh, I forgot, If you believe it, it must be true, HAHAHAHHAAA!!...Now you see why the KOOK Santorum lost his last Seante race by 19 points, even the people in his own state knows he's delusional....I'm beginning to think we need to start testing LSD again and chill these KOOKS out for awhile!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012....KICKING ASS and TAKING NAMES

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Without the French, our dumbasses would still be British. But I'm sure you'd never learn that bit of truth in a Republican History book. Santorum = Sanitarium for America

trust2112,

it's pretty obvious who's the dumbass.

In the Revolutionary War, the French (predictably) didn't show up until 1778, when it was obvious that the tide had turned against the British. Yes, they did lend some help by SELLING supplies to the Colonials, but they did so out of their own self-interest and hatred of the British.

And, as anyone that actually HAS read a history book knows, about a decade later we were fighting ANOTHER war - against the French with the British as our allies.

Without the French, our dumbasses would still be British.

And without the Americans, French dumbasses would be speaking German. Which is worse?

There might've been an apology. Like Jules from Pulp Fiction apologized:

"Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration?"

foolishness abounds, you are technically incorrect. The French wanted to help us in 1778 to snub the British, that is correct. Yet they waited until 1778 when the Patriots proved that they could win. Not very good to be on the losing side, is it???

We may have fought a quasi-war (due to the unofficial start of hostilities) with the French, but we eventually mended the troubles. Later America fought a larger war against the British, in which they invaded America and we invaded Canada. Ended in a United States victory, and marks as the last conflict between us and Britain. And yes, America did help liberate France; but we practically did the same thing with Britain. In the 1940s Britain was barely getting by, all alone against the might of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Then we came in after Pearl Harbor and saved their asses.

Oh and we borrowed a lot of ideas from the French, like liberalism, egalitarianism, the revolutionary spirit, and a sense of freedom and liberty. We did the same with the British. Santorum criticizing France is a detriment to American relations and is hypocritical. President John Adams and the Federalists referred to the French as papist revolutionaries. And they have been at our side many times, in Korea, Vietnam (although we went to save them), and even Iraq and Afghanistan. Santorum can kiss my ass for dissing France. Thanks to them we were liberated from Britain, and we have many great philosophies from France. I am surprised on how the GOP somehow hates Europe, especially since capitalism originated there and the French invented the GOP economic policy of laissez faire....

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

foolishness does abound - You have heard of "THE STATUE OF LIBERTY" ?

I think Libya also had French help.

Michael-1495965

First Iraq war

Afghanistan

Oh look, 2 wars where french soldiers were fighting and dying next to US soldiers.

On the other hand, no sign of a single Israeli soldier EVER fighting next to US soldiers, yet Santorum can't stop licking their boots.

that would be of course because Israel is surrounded by 50 million Arabs, of which millions are enemies bent on their destruction, so they are smarter than spreading themselves thin in other countries like the US when they have to place their non-voluntary military population to protect their own soil at home. also it is Israel that does the US's bidding by doing things like taking out those pesky nuclear facilities that may just make your world a little safer and then wind up taking the hatred and wrath from all of the rest of world. they get about $3billion in direct US aid and considering they are the US's only true allies in the Mideast, that is chump change to do our bidding.

Michael,

The first Iraq war was a UN operation - and if we had been allowed to finsh it rather than honoring the UN mandate to not enter Baghdad, there would not have been a second.

And the French participation in Afghanistan was minimal, at best, and was part of a NATO operation.

The TRUTH is that the French have NEVER been anything other than "allies" of convenience. THEIR convenience.

The United States wouldn't allow Israeli soldiers to fight with us for reasons that should be obvious once you can get your knees to start jerking. I can see how that neurological condition might be a bit of a distraction.

???

Yo' republican voters - save yourselves some time and gas money and just stay home! Insane-torum and his ilk(Mitt,Newt and Ron) are NOT worthy of your vote! If you believe these lying hypocrites will magically make your life rich and happy - you are all in for a rude awakening! Y'all be dragging this whole country back to 13th century serfdom.

@shouldofwouldofcouldof : If the US wasn't so hell bent on supporting every Israeli crime and most arab dictators, most of the Arab world would be their allies. Based purely on US interests, supporting Israel is a losing proportion, the US has a lot more to gain by being allied to the Arab world.

As for Israel helping the US by blowing up nuclear facilities, there are numerous other ways of fixing these kinds of problems, and needless to say that "help" is small change compared to the hatred caused towards the US by its blind support for this "best friend".

@foolishness abounds :

Wrong. France wasn't bound to send troops to Afghanistan by NATO rules, yet they did so. Many other NATO countries didn't send troops. At their height they had more than 16'000 troops on the ground, only the UK and the US had more.

As for the Iraq UN operation, again, no country was bound to send troops, yet France did so, in significant numbers, and supported the UN resolution process throughout.

Same thing for the issue with Iran right now, France is along with the US and the UK one of the main backers for sanctions against Iran.

There is a Nat. Geo show about drones and how since 2009 900 terrorist have been blown up using drones. Hopefully if only took a look for Bin Laden to know he was on his way to the devil when the Seals shot him

"Uh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration?"

culheath:

The Bible did describe these kind of Christians like this:

This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority.

Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from the Lord. But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer, who loved the wages of wickedness. But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

The GOP started the week after the Prez was elected with one of their "secret" meetings in VA to start a war on the Prez even before he took the oath of office. Since then the GOP has done everything they could to stop anything the Prez wanted to do for this country.

I have never seen such name calling that has gone on in the last 3 years. People have seemed to have lost their minds on how to be civil to each other and I know it is just going to get worse between now and Nov.

You said it. Only Bush has had this amount of anger against him, and even he had bipartisan support in the beginning of his term. Obama had NONE. People call him everything from Kenyan to Marxist to Dictator. What is the big idea??? This guy ain't perfect, nobody is. But you have to admit; this guy helped us in our hour of need. He wasn't a savior, more of a helper. He got us out of a recession, fostered months of economic and job growth, has been bipartisan, and has shown maturity in a place devoid of responsibility. If the GOP were really the party of Christianity, they would learn to co-exist with their enemies, as Christians have learned to do after years of fighting and bloodshed. And, they would follow this tenet from the words of Jesus, which I consider one of the most important quotes ever stated (not being melodramatic). "Let he without sin be the first to cast a stone" (7:53). If God were a politician, he would have no party. But even he, who is impartial to all, would be appalled by the division in our nation. If the GOP ever wish to walk this earth and lead this nation again, they must learn to put politics aside and use reason, not ideology. But I highly doubt that will happen, and so we as a nation have no choice but to banish these self-serving right-wing scum from our government and let people with reason lead this nation. I am not saying that the Democrats are perfect (far from it), but they are the ONLY ones in Washington who seem to give a damn and actually KNOW how to fix our problems. I would be happy to keep some Republican moderates, but the rest might as well resign. If the GOP win November, may God have mercy on us all.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

There is no doubt that he is clueless when it comes to foreign policy, this is so much drivel.

Why are you putting an apostrophe in Obama? He's not Scottish or Irish.

We're lucky to have President Obama, I wish he could serve more than two terms.

Because the republicans have moved so far to the right because they can't stand the idea of a black president that is why you have the clown show running for president my wife has always been a centerist she was a registered republican for many years she used to get mad & threaten to register as an independent occacionly but after dubya she said they have left me behind & she registered as a democrat

xscharm ... Not really a mystery: The Republican party has lost its legitimacy.

@xscharm, when have the repubs put up a viable candidate in the last 20 years? Bob Dole, and Kemp, Bush Jr, and his trusty side douche Cheney, that fat bloated McCain and Palin disaster? Now, we have the 3 Stooges vying for Redumblican candidacy. Another Fat, Bloated douche in Newt, a Mormon who would have let GM and Chrysler, along with its thousands of employees go completely under, and this total idiot, Santorum. Yeppers, sounds like another repub bumper crop of idiots.....

sugarba, Yes Obama actually does have Irish roots.

And as for the attitude of Obama has done nothing for this country, I keep hearing and reading this but I never see any real reason why? I don’t get it. This man has been an amazing president, working hard with a leveled and measured approach, and has stabilized a nation not only economically but security as well, but you people still wont give him his due. What exactly is it that you seem to hate so much about this man? When I was a child I would have to go to the doctor and some times I would get a shot that hurt me, and I would tell my mother " I hate the doctor". And she would explain that the doctor was good and there to help me to get better. But I did not care or understand, I still hated her none the less. Well I am all grown up now, and a lot smarter then when I was a child. I have facts and information all around me so I can come to an educated conclusion on things now. I now know that the doctor was a good thing and was there to help. I guess what I am saying is, really educate your self on the facts and not the fox, and you may be able to come to an adult conclusion that this president has actually done a great job with what he was handed. Just like I know now that my doctor helped me to grow up and to be healthy. Please people stop viewing this man through the simplistic eyes of a child. This is too important position to make a conclusion using a child’s intellect, we need for you to view things in an adult manner. I don’t like the way he looks mommy, or so and so said they hate him, is not a good reason to form your opinion and then vote. Please for the rest of us who do not deserve the consequences of your child view vote. Please educate your self and be the adult before you step into that both.

I think the major difficulty in fielding a Republican candidate is how truly bad off the US was. The general consensus was we were just inches away from a depression. Our housing industry was bankrupt. Financial sector was near colapse. Manufacturing had had a steady decline into disaster culminating in the near failure of the automotive industry. We were in two wars for which we were not paying. Our energy policy was non-existent (okay, maybe just not viable). Much of the rest of the world was displeased with our policies. Employement was signficantly declining. Wages were stagnant. Our education system was generating people not qualified to fill the positions available.

You juxtapose an overall Republican philosophy that the market/economy can fix itself and it makes it VERY tough to field a candidate that can fix the problems.

xscharm, WOW!!! a term for a President is 5 years? When did that change?

you may have forgotten there is still just under one more year left in Obama's present term. I think that would make it 5

As it was phrased after Obama wins your stuck for 5 more years. You might want to read it again.

No he's half muslim and half irish = o'hussein

"The GOP has lost their way"

What destroyed the GOP was the Tea-Retards with there nutty ways. Their like Supremacists haters.

Fatcat-4248461

As it was phrased after Obama wins your stuck for 5 more years. You might want to read it again.

I did read it again. Here is the comment I read and it has NO reference to " after he wins again". Maybe this was posted somewhere else with those words but not on my screen.

xscharm

Santorum would attack Iran immediately regardless of the cost or the number of dead Americans. Fortunately he can't beat O'bama.... but then we're stuck with O'bama for five more dismal years. One of history's big mysteries will be why Republicans couldn't come up with a legitimate candidate.

Fatcat-4248461

As it was phrased after Obama wins your stuck for 5 more years. You might want to read it again.

I did read it again. Here is the comment I read and it has NO reference to " after Obama wins ". Maybe this was posted somewhere else with those words but not on my screen.

xscharm

Santorum would attack Iran immediately regardless of the cost or the number of dead Americans. Fortunately he can't beat O'bama.... but then we're stuck with O'bama for five more dismal years. One of history's big mysteries will be why Republicans couldn't come up with a legitimate candidate.

Fortunately he can't beat O'bama.... but then we're stuck with O'bama for five more dismal years.

Try reading just this. He can't beat Obama, "THEN" we are stuck with him for "FIVE" more years.

Patriotic American U.S.A. - I disagree with you - it wan't the Tea Party that showed the Republican's Stripes, they have always been that way - Corporate lackies and Grover Norquist pawns

It took a Black President to bring them out of their closets of bigotry, selfishness, and adoration of the almighty dollar

The Koch Brothers, Heritage Foundation, ALEC, Better Business Bureau for big Corporations have been around for decades, however when the American people began to wake up from their deep sleep and apathy, these organizations started to panic and went full throttle into damage control

Now let's hope most of the Americans will stay awake and see what really has been going on!

so Egilman, do you just pull this stuff out of your ass at will?

Unless I am mistaken, it was that total cluster phuck of Bush/Cheney who created Homeland Security and the total waste of time, the TSA....

bryan, Amen!

TSA = Thousands Standing Around

I seem to remember that nearly all Democrats voted for it, too.

"W" was crazy as a bat, he should be in Jail for what he did to this Nation. "W" lied to Congress to get us into Iraq.

Egilman needs to clench an aspirin between his teeth, like Santorum, that way there will be no problems with 'unwanted things' popping out that we have to expalin about later.

Egilman, Obama wrote a signed statement showing his concern for NDAA. That indicates that he may do something if he finds it unconstitutional.

I do not trust the man when it comes to the defense of our country, especially when he approves and demanded that Congress give him the right to detain US citizens without trial...

That's a mis-characterization. Obama signed the legislation grudgingly after clearly stating that his administration had no intention of ever using it to imprison American citizens. The legislation was NOT of his invention. maybe you should research who was behind it and question their motives instead.

You need to get your facts together before you make misleading comments. Obama NEVER promised to bring troops home immediately, he brought them home when HE, as president, with info from the military, felt it was time. BTW, yeah, Reagan's policies........ forced the Chinese to change their economic system without dropping a single bomb and look what happened. His deals caused all of these jobs to go overseas because Reagan didn't have a clue about the economy, never did get a handle on it either. Hero? Some hero when you think he is the one that is responsible for all this outsizing and borrowing from the Chinese. Yeah, baby, some hero! The man was suffering from dementia when he came into office and when he left he had full blown Alzheimer's Disease.

Why can't you give Obama his dues? He gave the order to destroy bin Laden and we have also killed off several key terrorists under his watch. Just today, another would-be terrorist was caught. USA NOT SAFE according to this idiot? Santorum is a p*ssy that has no intention of letting anyone vet his miserable and crooked record so he is trying to get over by assassinating Obama's. Santorum is a big liar who does not take responsibility for what he does or does not do. He's blowing smoke screens to cover his inadequacy.

Foxx2,

try these on for size.... (note the dates)

Obama promising to bring the troops home during campaign

That one don't work for ya?

Campaign debate Obama states he will get our troops out by March.....

There are many more.......

Egilman,

As a Proud Retired Navy Man, there is one thing you have to understand as to why Then Candidate Obama made those statements to bring the troops home. One, because Americans were tired of war(unjust war in fact). Two, he knew the war was unstatainable with regards to the econmony.

Having said that, In order to bring the troops home in a timely matter, YOU HAVE to listen to the Generals that know what's going on and know what the situation is. The objective was to leave Iraq with somewhat of a stable government AND to capture/kill Osama Bin Laden(who then President Bush had in his sites THREE TIMES but was afraid to give the order to kill/capture). President Obama did the RIGHT thing in listening to the boots on the ground and brought our troops home in a responsible nature.

Nobody takes Egilman's posts seriously.

Egilman:

When it come to terrorism, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!
When it comes to dangerous Islamic Clerics, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!
When it come to Al Kaeda, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!!
When it comes to Talibans, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!!!

When it comes to anything that endangers the livelihood, freedom, and movement of Americans and other free people world-wide, President Barack Obama has done distinctively beautiful job.

These things should exist in the real meaning of leadership. President Barack Obama is an example of what leadership should be. He has compassion for the poor, compassion for the beaten-up middle class, compassion on all insults he had received from all angles, and the compassion to ignore the rest of the political degenerates running around insulting him, and yet plays fair. HE IS THE EPITOME OF LEADERSHIP.

When it come to terrorism, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!
When it comes to dangerous Islamic Clerics, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!
When it come to Al Kaeda, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!!
When it comes to Talibans, President Barack Obama is a stone-cold killer!!!!!!

When it comes to anything that endangers the livelihood, freedom, and movement of Americans and other free people world-wide, President Barack Obama has done distinctively beautiful job.

These things should exist in the real meaning of leadership. President Barack Obama is an example of what leadership should be. He has compassion for the poor, compassion for the beaten-up middle class, compassion on all insults he had received from all angles, and the compassion to ignore the rest of the political degenerates running around insulting him. HE IS THE EPITOME OF LEADERSHIP.

Egilman, you're really a dolt.

The reason the President signed that bill into law is because he knew the Senate passed it with a veto proof majority. He would have been wasting his time to veto it only for the Senate to override the veto. K

He didn't "demand" anything. If you want to place blame, but it where it belongs, on Congress.

To anyone who strongly approves of the job the President is doing, you might want to note that you are, in fact, in the minority.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

moonbaseGOP

I don't do the report. In denial much?

John, more republican spin. Those that approve of the job the President is doing is 50% and hardly the minority.

Strongly approve or just approve the job President Obama is doing is still approval by half the people.

Maybe you should be questioning the approval rate of Congress at 10%.

I would think the more concerning number is 40% strongly disapprove! And Climbing! And Congress should be going too. And Americans First hypocrite should not be voting for anyone who took all Americans right to due process away. Occupy that.

40% is about what any poll gives the Republican candidates. As they shift farther to the extreme right, that will drop. Mitt Romney, "I am severely conservative". Good luck with that.

"Rick Santatorium is dumber than a box of Rocks"

To all those who see your President as a GOD and that he is fulfilling his oath to protect your rights.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-administration-demanded-power-to-indefinitely-detain-u-s-citizens/

stop insulting boxes of rocks like that.

BTW john - rasmussen is the farthest right of all the pollsters. Remember - there is NO obligation to report real results - one can just reach up into the air and pick them out. There is no "truth in political advertising law"

john-737278 - funny, the only people I ever read referring to President Obama as God are Republicans. It just galls you guys that we actually have a very good President, doesn't it? And, you only have morons running to head the GOP. Oh wait, the GOP has only had morons for a very long time now. And, you had to search pretty hard for those poll numbers. Obama's approval rating is at 50% and climbing - not dropping. Now the GOP - not so much. Falling like a boulder!!!!! Look out below!!!!!

Poor poor John. You fail to understand that strongly approve is technically an extreme approve of all the approval ratings. And that same link mentions on how Obama's popularity is 50% (the majority in fact), how his detractors are in the minority (49% in fact), unless the GOP suddenly considers itself to be anti-math.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

HOPE AND CHANGE (change from GOP Congress) 2012

"Is Santorum a Citizen" He looks like a Birther ?

Hey Sanitorium!!!! Don't mess with the French!!!! They helped us gain independence and liberty, and have given us the ideals of egalitarianism and social contracts. If you mess with the French, you mess with America. So go ahead and sit your little isolationist anti-European ass down and SHUT UP. It is people like you who have destroyed this nation's image and integrity. Obama has done a pretty damn good job at foreign policy. He could even be great, if he plays his cards right. So shut up. Save your breath for blasting your opponents. For as the GOP gets weaker, Obama gets stronger. And so does America.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

I approve this comment!

"I second that" !!! Its scary this nut Rick is running for President of the United States of America. Santorum scares the hell out of me, God help this Country if this guy gets in the White House.

LOL! Too funny! Yep, if we have to bring back fearmongering, everyone should be afraid and NOT let the GOP in the WH. They are eager beavers for the "RAPTURE". WACO? Jonestown Massacre, Heaven's Gate, anyone?!? Geeesus.......

In western PA he's often referrred to as Rick the dick for his lightweight frothing during his senatorial carreer which suffered a swift and final recall.His ending was the greatest thumping a Pa, incumbent Senator has ever experienced,.....and he's earned it,turning his back on those he campaigned to alleviate the lack of personal contact,his MO. Don't reduce the Republican view in America to this bas terd,he only increases gop inconsequentiality.finis

Right on Susanmarie! Everyone, especially our womenfolk need to bring down this wierd azz jerk out of politics. Period. Aside from Sanatoriums desire to control womens freedom, let us remember that he is a Duh-bya supporter!! A total off-base lunatic!

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/01/george_w_bush_barely_mentioned.html

Buried at sea. No photos released to this day. Not smart.

OomYaaqub - OMG - another conspiracy idiot. Yes he was buried at sea and Senators (including those from the GOP) all agreed it was him. It was the right decision. The "not smart" comment - I guess you were referring to you???

Oom, on the Lebanese news they showed a picture of bin Laden with a bullet in his head. I'm not an expert, but I think they would've had to kill him if they would post it online. And they buried him at sea to honor Islamic code. Don't think everything is a conspiracy. Seek the truth, for the truth shall set you free.

No he really isn’t angry with France, he just has a long long list of people to hate for his fearful hating base to chew on.

The French

The Gays

Women

People of Color

People of all other faiths, except Jews. He needs their vote, and to help with the rapture

Liberals

Union workers

Educated People or "The Elite"

Atheist

I could go on and on. Give him a little more time, there WILL be others...

Yeah, I'm confused by Santorum's comments too. But given that he's another right wing lunatic, what can you expect? France is our enemy? our country is less secure? Uh, who killed Osama? Didn't I just read an article last night that a would-be bomber was caught who wanted to bomb the Capitol building?

It has been my observation over a number of years that there is a direct coorelation between women not having sex and men not having sex. I realize that this is very conservative and old fashion way of looking at things, but we all have our preferences. I do fundementally disagree with Mr. Santorum that sex should only be performed as a duty to procreate. Once again, we differ in opinion. If it is only a difference in opinion I can respect that. It becomes far more an issue when the legal system attempts to intervene itself into what should fundumentally should be choice of consenting adults.

Stryg, this is why I don't get why more men aren't telling him to back off. If I couldn't get birth control my husband wouldn't be getting any loving, and since we don't want any more children I would say that my husband wouldn't be too happy with never having sex again. The idea that sex is only to procreate is just silly, and since sex is a great part of a stable, loving marriage and a wonderful way to bond, I guess it means he doesn't want men and women who ARE married and want to stay bonded and close to love each other?

I don't get it...we're all supposed to sleep with each other all our lives but only have sex the couple of times we might want kids? What about women who shouldn't be pregnant for medical reasons? They are never allowed to ever make love to their husbands? The men are supposed to just lie there every night and be fine with that too?

Weird...it all makes no sense to me.

I do fundementally disagree with Mr. Santorum that sex should only be performed as a duty to procreate.

He never said any such thing. Do you really believe that each and every one of his children was planned?

That said, I think that anyone who so often makes statements so subject to misinterpretation doesn't belong in politics. We need another great communicator like Reagan, the man for whom I changed my lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Democratic party afiliation along with millions of others.

Of course, what you leftist loons are saying about Santorum are bald-faced LIES!!

He has NEVER said that he wants to ban birth control. In fact, he has said that he would OPPOSE a ban on birth control.

These are just more lies propogated by left-wing scum with MSNBC loons, like Maddow, leading the way.

What Santorum HAS said is that the Federal government should not be in the business of funding contraception through groups like Planned Parenthood. He has also said that the Federal government does not have a right to dictate to the states what laws they can pass.

THOSE are the statements that the Liberal Liars have distorted beyond recognition and that their "useful idiots" on here are parroting.

Rick Santorum is a loose cannon, two unfunded wars from "W" he supported, also rick was hiding from the military like a worm, The Vet's call him Rambo ?

" I do fundementally disagree with Mr. Santorum that sex should only be performed as a duty to procreate."

It might as well be that for Mr. Santorum sex is only a duty. With a woman, that is.

Somebody please tell me, who gave the liberals the license to lie?

the same ones who gave certain posters the rightwingnutters to spout unfounded bulls hit.

floyd, the GOP Teapugs showed us how their licence works ?

that was funny, floyd, Liberals 'need' a license to lie; you mean like Republicans need NO reason to lie?

" the Federal government should not be in the business of funding contraception through groups like Planned Parenthood"

Yeah, God forbid that poor people would get their hands on birth control. THAT would be terrible. Seriously??? And the right says the left is promoting class warfare!

That's nothing. See Romney's tax plans and how he is gonna raise taxes on the poor while feeding more the rich. WHERE IS THE CLASS WARFARE NOW RIGHT-WING SUCKERS?????

Oh and Reagan is not the god you right-wingers think he is. His cut and spend policies and trickle-down economics are what screwed this nation. And Reagan was also known for the Iran-Contra affair. Plus he wasn't half the man that JFK was. That man was the real communicator. He spoke to a generation searching for meaning and truth, one that wanted to set itself apart from the "greatest generation" and find it's own legacy. And it did. Had a lot of terrible things, like Vietnam, but also good things, like the Civil Rights Movement. Reagan wasn't half the man that JFK was. So don't give me that "Reagan is the greatest" BS. I may not have lived through those times, but even I know that Reagan had his problems, a whole lot of them. Check how he tripled the debt and ruined the economy in the long-term. It's right-wing idiots like Santorum and Traitor Norquist that made me go blue and liberal, just like millions of Americans...

Oh and Reagan was much liberal than you and the rest of the damn GOP.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

GOP EXTINCT 2012

NO TO REAGAN CONSERVATISM

Floyd, his name was Karl Rove. Since he helped move the entire GOP away from a "reality-based existence", the only way to interface with you people is to just pull stuff out of our collective ass.

Thanks for asking, though.

God says it's good for ya.

" Name one time in the last 20 years that the French stood by us with anything," Santorum said."

I'll name two. Afghanistan and Libya.

We're still trying to dig out from under Bush's insanity. We cannot afford this idiot.

Not to mention their support in Iraq during the two Persian Gulf Wars and their cooperation with us on economic and diplomatic issues, like Iran.

Personal attacks and hate language towards just about every group out there... that they have down to a science. Offering up something of substance to move this country forward... not so much.

Come to South Carolina.

The Right Wing is very much alive and well here, and they insult, browbeat, bully, vilify, and disenfranchise everyone who opposes them.

We have Nikki Haley, Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham here. Need I say more?

Yes but they sure can take; social security, Medicare, religious groups getting aide, and not paying taxes, GOP governors taking bail out money and credit for it. Federal aide, Scott Walker, for the foreclosure crises in his state and then using that money for his budget instead. And they talk about the poor paying their fair share.

And we know about all the honesty in the last election...Want an ACORN anybody

Must be feeling real safe living in your glass house SJIS

I like how right wingers distort the facts. The only scam ACORN did, was on ACORN. Mickey mouse and Donald duck never did vote.

I want to puke when they start on ACORN. That organization had a total budget of $20Million worldwide. Koch and Koch spend that much on a governor's race and think nothing of it.

You'll notice nobody talks about all the states where ACORN was cleared of any wrongdoing. See here: http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Two-years-later-ACORN-cleared-of-voter-fraud-993123.php and http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/12/acorn_workers_cleared_of_illeg.html and here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/03/02/us-usa-acorn-idUSTRE62102Q20100302 for just a few.

Santorum's words alone are making us less safe. The whole world is listening to you trying to make our President look weak, D--k h--d.

Rick Santorum for president??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I lived in Pennsylvania when he was one of our illustrious leaders! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Republicans are reaching low in the barrel this year and cannot come up with anybody who lasts in the polls more than 60 days! I am so sick of politicians, especially male politicians, trying to impose their "religious" values on me in the form of legislation! Do any of the Republicreeps know what separation of church and state is? I have my own religion and I take my judgement from God, not from these creeps! Get out of my bedroom!!! And half of the Republicreeps don't "really" believe what they are preaching... they just tow the party line. Doesn't that scare you at all? I know, I will be judged for calling them republicreeps but it really could have been a whole lot worse!

I find it HILARIOUS when the GOP (including the oh-so-intelligent Right-Wing voters/fans) froths-at-the-mouth about ACORN, when they themselves were hand-in-hand WITH ACORN. Ask AZ Sen. John McCain, TX Gov. Rick Perry, FL Gov. Crist, NY's Bloomberg, CA's Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tim Pawlenty, and yes even Mitt Romney about it. Oh wait, when the GOP used ACORN, it was a 'GOOD' thing.

I have seen your posts and your afflicitions of fear. You are "wonderfully made". It is against the backdrop

of evil your decisions of freewill to be made to support "good" or "evil". These decisions will form what you and your world will be. You have suffered much to gain the right to speak freely without fear or oppression.

You elected your leaders and your representatives to express the will of the people. When this right is crushed and something else replaces it, then this institution you built will be torn down to the ground and you will begin again. Perhaps after 10,000 attempts you might get it right. Where I am from there is no government. We are self-governed. All personalities are respected both subordinate and superior. What do we all have in common? We are children of one Father as diverse as the stars in the night sky. There is much you cannot see, but one morning your eyes will open. I hope your childrens children will be able to see the good that you left them with.