DeMint. The King of the Delusional.

Creating projection after projection in order to justify said delusional reality....and stupid follows blindly along.

They seem to be proud and vocalize the fact that they do not want to compromise with Democrats on anything. This needs to be a general election commercial for voters to give the Democratic party another look.

Remember Santorum's "I don't want to give black people . . . " What he left out was "white owned corporations get all the welfare handouts they want so vote for me".

OK now. Go ahead and say it: "You're playing the race card." Whaa whaa whaa! So predictable!

We don’t have shared goals with the Democrats. The democrats can’t cut spending.

Ah, so it is the Democrats that took a huge surplus and turned it into a deficit. Those Democrats must have passed a 7 trillion dollar Medicare Part D plan without even TRYING to pay for it. I bet those Dems started wars they insisted not be paid for too. And to top it off I bet those nasty Democrats passed huge tax cuts for Paris Hilton and Mitt Romney without offsetting the revenue loss.

Those darn Democrats probably push a "Starve the Beast" strategy too. And I bet the lesson Democrats take from their very favorite president's time in office is, "Deficits don't matter."

Yeah, boy howdee, those Democrats sure do spend too much.

The hypocrisy and BS coming from Demint is beyond belief.

'We don’t have shared goals with the Democrats'

Tea Bag DeMint and his followers don't share the goals of the American people either.

"I don't like tea it gives me a Headache!"

Pete Puma

Yea - we'll just go ahead and spend a few trillion $$'s on wars...and don't forget to give those tax breaks to those poor million/billionairs who are creating allllll those jobs that saved us from a great recession...Who cares about those lazy poor people - let them eat cake!

And let's continue our NO NO NO NO NO mantra.....

Pretty soon America will wake up and say NO MORE GNOP!

Didn't Bush start a war to bring us together so we would have common goals? I don't think that would work now either, even though all of the republican candidates seem to think war with Iran would be a swell idea!

Yeah, get ready for piles and piles of lies, hatred, and fear from CPAC!

Alan, NJ

So, in this election year, are the Democrats actually going to produce a budget that will explain how much revenue they need to save SS, Medicare and Medicade?==

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Is that a concession that the GOP does not want to save these programs? From what I understand, your front runner in the GOP primary keeps speaking about how he wants to save these programs though I'm uncertain the 'details' about how he would do that would meet the question you are asking of the Democrats.

The DeMinted One is correct....They are..... Party First!

...obscuring or deliberately telling the lie of omission concerning their fiscal policies during the 8 years of Dubya!

Democrats are the Party of Country First (period)

The GOPTP doesn't have shared goals with a majority of Americans either according to the polls. In fact, with their obstructionism the past three years, proved they don't give a hoot about the country, just their party. DeMint's statement is truly stupid.

Repeat one last time for the conservatives who missed it the first hundred times and you know who you are. President Obama has given Congress a budget every year he's been in office. It is Congress that hasn't been capable of getting their act together because the GOP obstructs, delays and denies because "compromise" is a four-letter word in their minds.

Folks, we’re not talking about complicated political philosophy here,” he said.

Therein lies the problem.

DeMint dealt mainly in broad strokes...

Broad strokes, so warm and fuzzy, like the Keystone pipeline that people dislike the more they learn about it.

And state's rights, which are great when you want to make abortion illegal, but bad when same-sex marriage is made legal. The founding fathers already tried "decentralization" and it was a dismal failure. Why, or why do Teabaggers want to go backward instead of forward (including birth control)?!

The democrats can’t cut spending.

That old dog don't hunt no more, but keep on catapulting the propaganda DeMented.

Republicans can't stop increasing the deficit with unpaid wars, tax cuts for the rich and corporations, and Medicare Part D. Democrats are the only ones who compromise with Republicans, usually because they are forced to via hostage taking and other conniving, but it's much more than one can say for Teapublican "my way or the highway" obstructionism.

Throw the Do Nothing Teapublican anarchists out -- Obama/Biden - 2012!

DeMint has repeated the same lies that get the right wing nuts elated. GOP shared goal, which has never benefited the people, is designed by top 1% for the top 1%. Someone tell DeMint to show us his numbers..............none. President Obama has the numbers on his side......4 million jobs and still counting.

Alan, NJ

How about raising eligibility to 67?

How about Teapublicans find a way to repay the IOU sitting in the trust fund box? Social Security does not contribute to deficits, and it's a successful program that is solvent for a long time. That Teapublicans have the ugly idea of cutting programs like this in order to give the rich more tax breaks is treasonous.

We can only address deficits with a multi-prong approach of cuts in spending (such as wars and policing the world), an increase in revenue via fair taxation in which the rich pay the highest tax rate (not 14%) on ALL of their income, and using "carrots and sticks" tax incentives per the president's proposal to encourage companies to create jobs here at home.

Also, corporations need to pay it forward for the educated workforce, infrastructure, security, etc. they enjoy by paying taxes (above the average 9%) and not sheltering it in the Cayman Islands. At the minimum we need to get rid of corporate welfare subsidies immediately.

With health issues skyrocketing, the idea of everyone being able to work until even age 65 is crazy talk. If you want to work until you die that should be by choice. If anything, increase the FICA cap from $106,000 up to at least $250,000 for Social Security. And those making more need not collect.

Republicans sure haven't addressed my concerns as an Independent which are:

(1) Republicans' continued tax cuts and all kinds of tax breaks for the rich, and

(2) Pay cuts and stagnant wages for American Workers.

When Republicans start talking about issues that concern average Americans like me, then somebody please wake me up. Otherwise, Republicans are doing the same exact thing they've always done: Grandstand Politics while they address Rich People ONLY.

Obama / Biden 2012.

TO: Alan, NJ who wrote:

"So, in this election year, are the Democrats actually going to produce a budget that will explain how much revenue they need to save SS, Medicare and Medicade?..."

Alan, what WE want to know is "HOW ARE REPUBLICANS PLANNING TO PAY FOR THEIR LIE CALLED THE WAR IN IRAQ?"

We keep on asking, but Republicans haven't yet explained exactly HOW Republicans intend to pay for all those loans they took from China to pay for Bush and Cheney to drill oil in Iraq.

Maybe if we knew exactly "HOW" Republicans intend to proceed we could give you a "budget".

Obama / Biden 2012

Why can't we just raise taxes??? What is so bad about taxes?? They are a necessary part of our life. I mean, if you want to cut the deficit you have to use ALL options. Doesn't the GOP say that the US should keep all options on the table for dealing with Iran??? Why not with the deficit??? If we're gonna spend another trillion for fighting in Iran, we might as well put up sandbags for the inflow of debt...

And Alan of NJ, why should the government suddenly cut and run when there are solutions to the problem that do not include privatization??? You simply put in COLA, raise the payroll tax cut to 90% of earned income, trim costs in entitlements, and start seeing where we can cut without causing the most harm. Why is every GOP solution to a problem either leave it to the damn states or the "free" market or whatever the hell you guys on the right come up with??? If we had the guts to put a man on the Moon we ought to at least have the guts to tell the rich (and everyone, for that matter) that we are gonna have to raise your taxes. AND cut spending. DeMint, do you just know that you have thrown the LAST connection between you and your brethren in Congress??? Do you just know that you have rejected the American ideal of compromise???? Yes, I know the Democrats are not the best (even though I am one of them). But come on!! You do know that you're party has yet to actually offer a COMPREHENSIVE and BALANCED deal to reduced the deficit without so much as privatizing and/or weakening entitlements and safety nets???? At least Obama had the freaking guts to put sacred cows on the bloody table!!!!!!!! He offered a deal that was mostly spending cuts and just a HINT of tax increases and you said bloody NO!!!!!!! That is IT. I am THROUGH with you damn right wing conservative warmongers doing nothing but ruin this country with your stupid fiscal and economic policies. TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY DO NOT WORK. Maybe if you were trying to wage class warfare against the middle class, but NOT in a democracy. So DeMint, go ahead and spout right-wing BS. But know this; the more you distance yourself from your enemies, the less chance you have of America EVER re-electing you and your sorry ass to office.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

TO HELL WITH THE GOP

Republicans won't raise taxes because they have to continue the "starve the beast" policies that got us here so that they can eventually cut social security, medicaid, and medicare.

My old journalism professor would call DeMint's observation a "No Sh*t lead."

No Sh*t, Jimmy.

Thank goodness there is an alternative to you and yours.

Obama/Biden 2012

Why can't we just raise taxes??? What is so bad about taxes?? They are a necessary part of our life. I mean, if you want to cut the deficit you have to use ALL options.

You are exactly right. The problem is we ignore the math. We act like we can raise taxes on about 2% of us and keep increasing how much we spend.

It's not a party problem, BTW. The only difference is where we spend the money. Democrats want to just give away free stuff while republicans want more carrier groups.

CPAC 2012 = CREATE PANIC AMONG CONSERVATIVES 2012; When there is no real policies exept the policy of "NO", this is all that is left to do. If Tea-publicans cannot win on substance then they must use fear.

This discourse reminds me of my history courses and what was the political climate leading up to the First Civil War.

We were warned by no less an august person that President Washington who, in his farewell address, warned us about political parties, that they divide the loyalty of the people and interfere the running of democracy. He was so spot on. I see rabid hatred, ridicule and blatant lies from both sides of the debate (Here's looking at you Feisty).

#Political_parties

From what I am seeing I believe we are in the opening stages of the Second Civil War. I hope I am wrong, but f not May God help us all.

Alan NJ,,,, sorry about your Avatar. Mel Gibson is an anti-semitic a s s hole.

So caring about the country is not something the GOP has in common with Democrats? Making our country stronger by working together is not a goal we all have in common. Helping us all get out of this recession is not something the GOP has in common with Democrats? Sounds to me like the GOP is darned unAmerican if they can't share those goals with Democrats and Independents!

It's very nice to hear DeMint say that conservatives don't have shared goals with Democrats. Considering that the Democrats goals are to get the country back on track, and bring success to everyone in the country, I guess we are left to assume that conservatives really do not want the country to succeed. Maybe that's why they are so pissed at Chrysler and Clint Eastwood for the Super Bowl ad touting the recovery of the auto industry. Democrats play for a successful America, Republicans play for failure.

Thanks for the admission, DeMint.

IF the collective GOP's face was on fire

& LIBERALS offered to put it out,

Conservatives would rather let it BURN OFF

than have the HELP of a LIBERAL

AND that is what's call PLAIN STUPIDITY

who would elect such people to public office to represent them ?

Well, if DC stays gridlocked, people who want to get something done will have to do it at the state-level, where it belongs in the first place.

Mr. DeMint: Do these goals include improving things for the middle class? How about creating jobs for the middle class that pay living wages? How about protecting our constitutional rights?

Another example of playground politics... "my way or the highway" no compromise only obstructionism.

perfect example of why NOTHING gets done in an EFFECTIVE manner.

DeMint and his minions have clearly stated their position. They have now firmly admitted that they are blocking every effort to save the economy and preserve our nation. They have admitted their "reach across the aisle" statements were BS. It is now time to kick them out and move forward. We must purge congress of thes obstructionists to save our nation and restore our civil liberties.

Obama/ Biden 2012 and restore a Democratic Congress

@Allen-NJ

We're not broke. The money is simply in the wrong hands. It's distribution is sub-optimal, inefficient, stupid, currently trending inevitably to latin american oligarchic proportions, and, in short, contraindicated.

Obama / Biden, 2012

Demint speaks for all Republicans - which is why Congress' approval is at an all time low of 10%. Giving them a paycheck is like giving a spoiled 5 year old girl a lollipop for doing nothing but throwing a noisy, incoherent fit.

The fake controversy over birth control was a perfect example of how mature adults come together in a compromise. Two opposing sides came to the table and a creative solution was developed that, at least in this case, gave both sides what they wanted. This is how our forefathers set up our government to function, this is what we are paying our governement to do and this is what makes our country the best place in the world in which to live.

Thank God the majority of the American public elected an adult for President.

Hey Allen from NJ-What do you mean about the US being broke??? I mean, we are in a bit of a financial trouble, but we are DEFINITELY not broke. I mean, our nation creates trillions of dollars of wealthy every year (almost $15 trillion to be exact). We have so much money that we throw away trash after a week that people in some countries would use for months (not trying to be offensive, but just stressing the point). We have the money to keep dozens of satellites, government and private, in the air, and a lot of the poor people in our country would live comfortably in a country like Somalia. The reason we have our deficit is because we were stupid. Not just Republicans and Democrats, but AMERICANS. We thought we could send our boys over to Iraq and Afghanistan without having to raise taxes. But no, we are not broke. The money is in the wrong places, that's all. I mean, we lose trillions a year from the Bush tax cuts. If keeping some of them would help the economy, then we can keep them. But at least remove the ones for the upper class; they've had enough time to create jobs, and they failed. In the private sector, as you idiots on the right like to say, we would have given them severance pay and kicked them out. But no, we keep coddling them. Oh and DeMint; F*** you. You and your rotten ultra-conservative right-wing scum are the ones who are keeping this recovery slow, and yet you have the balls to place the blame on your compatriots.

Oh, and by the way-since you say that Democrats don't want a stronger America, I guess that means that Feisty and American girl and True Patriot (I'm assuming, tell me if I'm wrong) want the nation to rot and die like the Roman Empire. You really think that I, the son of an immigrant who came to the "Land of Opportunity" wanting to have a share in this glorious nation, an ambitious member of the next generation who wants to make it big on Wall Street (hopefully I'll do it legally and keep my liberal "European socialist" principles), wants America to flounder. You are a stupid, bigoted, piece of right-wing scum and YOU are the problem with America. YOU. So go back to your red district and stay there. You are unfit to serve. Discharged. Now go and rot, maggot.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

TO HELL WITH THE GOP

What Jody-IOWA said! the Repubs are so out of touch with the majority of Americans and what they want from their governments..... they don't have any shared goals with the majority of the people the majority of the time...they have shared goals with the lobbyists who fund them and their bankers that's about it.....they are soon to be relegated to nothing more than a fringe party. The sooner the better!

Death to all trolls

CPAC doesn't have shared goals with America either.

The Republicans have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to bitch about 1) SPENDING, 2) DEFICITS, 3) OUR NATIONAL DEBT, or 4) OUR ECONOMY.

Bush broke all records with an increase of over $500 Billion to our annual national spending WITHOUT FUNDING A GD THING! Wasn't Bush a Republican? Is my memory faulty here? Didn't his puppet-master Cheney say "Deficits don't matter"? Didn't Bush start the Afghan war? The Iraqi war? Homeland Security? Medicaid? The Bush tax cuts? Yep. Did he fund any of it? Nope. Wasn't Boehner in Congress? Cantor? Demint?

Add to that a $500 Billion decrease in tax receipts a year due to the collapse economy on his watch, and you have $1Trillion a year in debt with "REPUBLICANS" stamped all over it.

Demint does serve his red meat rare, though, doesn't he?

What a farce.

He was right, though. Republicans share nothing with Democrats... especially when it comes to peace, the economy, balanced budgets, and support for the poor.

The GOP always love to play "holier-than-thou" while choosing to do some the most un-Christian and anti-American things. If you haven't been asleep,...you know the GOP is in it for the corporations and the wealthy they serve,...and they have no interest in governing for the people.

Their newest ploy is to act like their "my way of the highway" rhetoric is somehow the moral high road. It's so ironic,...that it does fool some people, getting them to go against their own best interests.

WE WOULD ALL DO WELL TO REMEMBER THE GW BUSH REGIME AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE UNDER HIS ELITIST RULE. The power and money funneled quickly into the hands of the wealthy. Sure,...you got an $500 tax refund check per year, but everything the decider wanted happened. It was bull dozed through and you "had just better get used to it". He bypassed democracy. He gave tax breaks to the corporations and everybody - "SURE here you go",...underfunding the government so as to set the stage for the current showdown we are in regarding the social safety net. His grandfather never wanted that to begin with,...so GW was going to "make it right" according the ideas of his blue blood grandfather.

You can hear the well COORDINATED message shift by all of the Republican pundits.

They are trying to appeal to the population by underlining that they are unapologetically against anything other than unbridled free market capitalism. Sorry folks,....all government is bad, except the things that continue to help make our constituents proportionately more and more wealthy. If you are not in the top few perecent,...you'd have to be insane to go this much against your own best interests. If you "win big" - great !! If you are from the upper middle of the pack and down >>>> "The GOP has nothing for you". Their attitude is "you were free to win,...but didn't" YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. We are not a country, but a land full of seperate financial interests,...it's dog eat dog,...but in a "nice" kinda way,...right ?

Chris Stigall had a questionably famous black guest on this morning,....but they were making the point to show how "down wit' conservatism" this guy was",.....YEAH RIGHT. It is so glaringly obvious that the GOP is D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E to attract minority voters. They constantly try to convince us and especially minority voters that the conservative party that is in their corner. LIKE IT EVER HAS BEEN,...HAH !!Then you turn to the other Philadelphia morning conservative pundit at 990am,....and he is putting on this really sensible tone trying to say,...convince everyone,...bypass your objections by stating as fact - that ALLLL of the different minorities black, hispanic, Asian, Indian are all becoming soooo convinced that the conservative way is the only way.

Then, BOTH Limbaugh and Dennis Prager,...who are both on at noon in PA,...are going on each their own rant about how the democrats apparent concern for citizens experiencing hard times is completely misguided BS. Then they spout platitudes about how their brand of "YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN NO MATTER WHAT" capitalism is true freedom. You are free to have rich people make their millions by the sweat of your brow,...while freezing your wages for YEARS.

I swear that they speak "Brave New World" double talk. The GOP are masters of the Jedi mind trick,....convincing the prejudiced, easily angered and easily fooled to GO AGAINST THEIR OWN BEST INTERESTS.

The GOP is Lucy from the Peanuts cartoon and the people are Charlie Brown. "Go ahead and kick the football, Chuck",.."I won't pull it away this time". If we are forgetful enough to vote the conservatives BACK into power to continue their elitist assault on the middle and working class,.....it IS NOT going to be pretty.

If tax breaks for the rich generates jobs,....where are the jobs ? This is a myth. There is no trickle down.

Times have become harder and harder. Wages are stagnant,...benefits are disappearing,....there are more and more fees and charges from banks and creditors and any company who can force them upon you. Jobs are getting shipped off seas. YET,....there is more and more of the REAL profit of this country funneling into the hands of the top few percent of the population.

The conservatives will tell you that a free market "SETS YOU FREE" to make your million, BUT in this hyper competitive and EXPENSIVE economy,....what is the likelihood that a high percentage of the loyal and hard workers that drive the productivity and,therefore wealth of the top few percent,...will be able to retire or even care for themselves in their old age ? I say,...NOT MUCH.

The guiding hand of government,...per Abraham Lincoln,....is there to do for people ONLY what they can't do for themselves. THE MAJOR ISSUE that confronts Americans today is corporate greed and excess and runaway power. If you think for one moment that when the rich and connected get more and more that they are thinking of putting one cent more than is absolutely necessary back into the rest of the population,......you are dreaming.

Don't let the GOP blind you with their "freedom" rhetoric,....or their "doomsday" rhetoric. IT IS A LIE. The freedom they are most interested in is retaiing all of the financial power and allowing you to work and earn as they see fit until you die.

The GOP have OUTRIGHT told us,...they are looking to kill the entitlements. If youhave another solution,....good for you !!!

Vote Obama in 2012.

Duck Femint, and all the mouth breathers who blindly agree with him. Why do I say that, because SC is one of the biggest recipients of Fed money because of their defense industry companies, yet he is so typically GOP/TP against big government and socailism, while at the same time taking tax payer money from all over the country for HIS state. The GOP/TP has become the party of hyopocrytes. Only dumbasses would support someone like this.

Read the hypocrisy....READ IT!!!!:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-south-carolina-federal-spending-20120114,0,2720280.story

.....and don't you just love Nancy Garvin, isn't she just the poster child for the GOP/TP!

@Alan: If we get out of wars and stop "nation-building" around the world, we could afford to take care of all Americans with Social Security, Medicare, and even single-payer health care.

Chester, Obama did try to cut spending by $4 trillion over the next decade. He also released a budget for Congress to pass. Too bad the GOP won't even let it pass the House.

Esp for alan in NJ:

The American People have awakened and the Democratic Landsllide of 2012 will show you Repubs that you read the 2010 elections all wrong. You should have been repairing your party after all the Bush/Cheney damage to our country and your party rather than giving your party away to your Off-the-Deep-End fringe and letting YOUR Corporate Interests manipulate you and your Fringe for their purposes! suckers

Americans first

Do you really trust a republican party that takes away your rights and then tries to call it freedom?

Who signed the Patriot act that strips me of my right to privacy TWICE after pledging in campaigns to get rid of it? (full disclosure: I am independent and was equally as mad when the Patriot act was first introduced I also believe this is a perfect example of Obama continuing Bush's bad/failed policies)

Who signed the NDAA that stripped me of my rights of due process?

Who has stripped the American people of more liberties than any other POTUS in history?

If you are truly for freedom and are supporting Obama you need help.

Let me get this straight...

if you are a law abiding citizen... if you do not perform terrorists acts against this country.....if you do not engage in illegal or illcit activities....

you are in danger of losing your personal liberties? Is that correct?

Interesting how the right-wing loves "gateway" hypotheticals unless it's about civil or individual rights. We (the people) should never allow erosion of rights via the Patriot Act or any other similar legislation, in which people can be wrongly imprisoned (or worse framed). If we don't protect one right, what right will we lose next?

Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security. -- Benjamin Franklin

Also interesting is how Republicans love war (and deficit spending, particularly on war) unless it is done while a Dem is in the White House. Have folks already forgotten the right-wing outrage about the intervention in Libya?

Well for those of us that UNDERSTAND sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA, it is clear that the intentionally loose definitions make it possible to detain ANYONE indefinitely. POTUS know this was so wrong and that it could be so abused that he put this RIGHT IN THE BILL:

I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.

So he KNOWS indefinate detention of American citizens is WRONG, a BAD IDEA, AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION. Yet he signed it into law anyhow! So this is supposed to make us feel better? This is nothing more than something to fall back on if it is brought up during the campaign. The facts are POTUS does not obey the constitution anyhow and he has left the door wide open for the next dictator that COULD be REPUBLICAN!

This has been downplayed and kept out of the media for very good reason.

While I agree with you on the risks of such a provision, I also appreciate reality. Our Congress has a long record of creating bills that include a mish mash of provisions, many of which are unrelated to the puported purpose of the bill itself. One recent example is including a requirement that the Keystone pipeline decision be rendered in 60 days in the bill to extend the payroll taxcut. It is the equivalent of political blackmail, pressuring the opposition or the President to accept something they would not accept on a standalone basis. [Incidentally, it is something both parties are guilty of.] In this case, President Obama accepted it and used the device of a signing statement to indicate how his administration will implement the bill. This is also a common procedure. Bush did hundreds of those, even when blessed with a rubber stamp Congress that gave him literally everything he wanted. In my opinion, the right thing under the circumstances would be for the Supreme Court to strike down those provisions that are clearly unconstitutional. If they do that for this bill, they should then move on to the Patriot Act. They won't of course, because conservatives (and they have a majority in the Court) are more concerned about the Health Care mandate than whether or not Americans can be jailed without due process.

Awww. He just misspoke. What he actually meant to say was "We don't have shared goals with 99% of Americans."

96ws6 - if you believe the stupidity you are spewing, YOU need help!

Seeking Sanity,

POTUS beleived it and that is why he put the following right in the bill:

I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.

So basically POTUS is stating I do not believe in this. I know this is bad for my country. I know the definitions are so vague that this unconstitutional power could, and very likely will be abused, but I am a good little puppet so I will make it law anyhow.

You dems above all should know that as soon as an evil repub gets in office he will abuse this power. That being said I am sure when it happens you will demonize the repubs instead of the idiot that made it law even though you defended the idiots actions at the time.

True Patriot

You are correct in that the Patriot act and these NDAA provisions need to be repealed immediatly. By the way I am independednt and was trashing POTUS becuase he deserves it on this one just like I trashed Bush when he passed the Patriot act and trashed POTUS again after he signed it twice after campainging he would get rid of it. (that pesky puppet thing again? or just a lie?) He acts like he is for liberty then trashes it. Actions speak louder than words.

True Patriot,

I was also against the Iraq war and yes I was pissed about getting involved in Libya when we were debating how to find enough money to keep our government running here at home. Funny how we found a few Billion to attack Libya without any problem though huh?

96ws6 - we did not attack Libya. We advised and took that role. The "war" in Libya was run by NATO. You keep missing the facts here but I realize that is deliberate on your part.

Seekingsanity,

If you read my post I said we got INVOLVED in Libya I did not say we attacked them. But the fact is bombing them is attacking them isn't it?

A lot of people believe we pretty much ARE NATO since we do pretty much all the military work, pay for most the war and make most the decisions. You seem to be missing the fact that our "advisory roll" cost a few billion dollars when we couldn't afford it. I'm sure this is deliberate on YOUR part. Maybe it would be a good idea for us not to let NATO dictate when to use our military and money huh?

wtf is this POTUS crap. Sounds like these guys watch too much TV. What's important is SPOTUS, the Stupid People Of The United States, who keep DeMint and psychos like him in power.

96ws6 - we are NOT NATO and our role in the Libya movement was minor. We did not use our military at all and very little of our money. Again, you make things up! But, again, I'm sure you did not have a problem with Bush? Probably voted for him twice I'm guessing.

You are correct Senator DeMint , I don't have shared goals with with your teapublican party. I put country ahead of party. I believe in real science. I don't want to destroy the middle class. I don't want to bomb any nation that disagrees with us. I don't want to go back to the 1800s. I don't hate blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, Hollywood, people in New England, people on the West coast, atheist or Muslims. Rush the junkie Limbaugh is NOT my hero. I want clean energy. I want to vote for people who want to move the nation forward. Those are just a few reasons why I an mot a republican.

commander-2009386,

Do you really believe that Obama's signing statement is so secret? You knew about it. I knew about. President Obama went so far as to even directly comment on it at the public, televised signing of the bill. It was well reported at that time.

Is your requirement that the law and the signing statement be published on billboards every 10 of public roads?

And at some point there will be a Constitutional test of this law before the Supreme Court.

96ws6,

The United States had minimal involvement in Libya. A few special forces recon and scout teams serving as spotters and attaches to the "rebels" and the engagement of elements of the US Mediterranian fleet. Most of the expense was in fuel. Whatever missiles or bombs that were used would have had to have been decommissioned (costly process) eventually. Weapons are a sunk cost, money spent with no opportunity for return. So your billions, which includes those weapons, drastically overstates the real cost.

Seeking sanity

Yes we did attack libya in the beginning then it was turned over to the U.N.

Don't you watch the news?

ted patrick - I do watch the news and no - we did not attack Libya! Clearly you were making up your own programs to watch. NATO did all the attacks - not the US.

Seeking(apparently not enough)

More than 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles struck over 20 targets inside Libya today in the opening phase of an international military operation the Pentagon said was aimed at stopping attacks led by Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and enforcing a U.N.-backed no-fly zone.

President Obama, speaking from Brazil shortly after he authorized the missile attacks, said they were part of a "limited military action" to protect the Libyan people.

"I want the American people to know that the use of force is not our first choice and it's not a choice I make lightly," Obama said. "But we cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people that there will be no mercy."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/libya-international-military-coalition-launch-assault-gadhafi-forces/story?id=13174246#.TzW0ZshdDLQ

Seems that Obama thinks we attacked Libya. Maybe you should be Seeking Knowledge as well as Sanity.

commander-2009386 - Did YOU actually READ the legislation? I'm talking about the Conference Committee version, not the Senate version. The protection for American Citizens and "those legally in the United States" are already there. The President's signing statement was nothing more than an exclamation mark.

How far off the Deep End have these John Bircher conservatives led the RepubliCon Party? Read on:

Here is a must read from Veterans News Now...:

CPAC Features White Supremacist and the RepubliCons are silent!

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/02/10/cpac-features-white-supremacist-republicans-silent/

Just another divide by the right-wind nut jobs... It goes to show just how difficult they have made this recovery and no matter what they throw at the president, No Drama Obama stays stead fast heading forward out of the mess the republicans mostly caused...

Chester, Obama DID want to balance the budget. He tried to offer a plan that would cut $4 trillion from the deficit. Not a lot considering future deficits, but it is at least a good start. But the GOP said NO, all because of a few tax increases. So stop blaming the president and start blaming the GOP.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

You are correct Senator DeMint , I don't have shared goals with with your teapublican party. I put country ahead of party.

Charlie ... your post is fantastic. I wish it would be nominated as the "Post of the Day". It summarizes so well why I, after over 30 years of being a Republican (a family tradition that reaches back to the 1890's) now consider myself a Democrat. I didn't leave the party. It was hijacked by the people that John McCain once called "agents of intolerance" before he himself was seduced by the Dark Side.

For years, Republicans have been very party loyal. It truly is a well proved conservative trait. They debate each other in primary campaigns and even though it may only be about 25-30% who really agree with the final candidate, they have traditionally got behind the party nominee because they are loyal to the party.

But even this traditional loyalty has its limits. Today the Republican party has been hijacked by the far right fringe. They no longer really have traditional conservative values. These people are extremists with a no compromise attitude. In fact these people reject the traditional party loyalty and go out of their way to attack traditional Republican conservatives as ferociously as they attack Democrats.

You have to ask yourself just how far will loyalty really go this year? Will traditional conservatives support these extremists after they themselves have been rejected and attacked by these nut job extremists? Where we sit today, the traditional conservatives are holding out some hope that somehow a saner candidate will emerge from behind the curtain and gather broad support as the party nominee. In reality, the only way this could possibly happen is through a revolution at the convention. It seems highly unlikely.

Traditional Republicans sold their soul to the devil in 2008 when they accepted Sarah Palin on the ticket. It cost them the election. McCain actually had the potential for gathering some independent Democratic votes, but they killed that possibility with their hurried "marriage" to the extreme far right. Even though the McCain-Palin candidacy failed, it unfortunately spawned "offspring" that carried the dominant traits of the far right. And four years later, traditional conservative Republican candidates are going extinct.

Will traditional conservatives be able to get behind the sub species who threatens their very survival even more so than Democrats? The traditional conservatives could possibly be willing to support Romney, not because he reflects their positions, but because they see him as someone who could be manipulated. But even that has a danger, as he could just as easily be manipulated by the extreme far right wing of the party.

In fact I believe and have seen some personal evidence that traditional conservatives might very well be willing to see their far right extremist wing suffer a crushing defeat. In reality, from the traditionalist view, there is really little to be lost. They know that President Obama is not the extreme liberal that he is often described as. They know that he can be negotiated with and don't really see another four years as being that far from the traditional conservative view. Many are beginning to see another 4 years of President Obama as being less damaging to traditional conservatives than giving it to the the extreme far right wing who would just as well destroy their positions.

Out of party loyalty, most traditional conservatives are not about to publicly attack other party members, (unlike the far right extremist wing), but they will work quietly to accomplish their goals. Many traditional conservatives are far more worried about their far right wing than they are worried about moderate Democrats. Time will tell when the convention is over. But don't be surprised if the traditionalist don't back away from blind loyalty to the party which they view as being mutated in a way they really can't accept.

These people are extremists with a no compromise attitude.

That's because the party has been hijacked by the religious right. Like religious fanatics of all stripes, they believe that they are chosen by God, their positions are the only valid ones and that compromise is a sin. These attitudes have, over the centuries, resulted in everything from the Crusades, to witch burning, the inquisition and Muslim suicide bombers.

The party hijacking would not have been possible if the majority of Republican voters participated in the primaries. They have turned the party's nomination process ofer to the extremists. As a result, only candidates who share their extreme ideology or who pander to them can become the nominees. The GOP is doomed to become a minority party unless the reasonable center wakes up and takes control back



What is left of the Republicon Party wants the USA to be a Xtian version of Iran!

from the Urban Dictionary:

Top 10 Signs that you are an xtian fundie:

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how G-d/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women and children, and even trees.
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit
impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects --
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian.

Rick..I agree..One question though: Is that avatar a dog or a rat?

It's my Hienz 57 Country Dog(11 years old), Torpedo You!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

Rick--your dog's picture always makes me smile! What is his name?

Put your glasses on torpedo, That's a great looking dog, and also makes me smile, when I see him! My 9yr old westie Savannah sends her greetings!

I wonder if Rush is speaking this year? He gave a fantastic speech last year.

So, no different than the last three years

hiram

Looks like it's budgets,...sorry you didn't get your memo. Is your email up to date on your membership listing?

just as good an issue.......considering we have never had a Federal Budget passed under Obama......

How about this topic.

Taxpayers paid 1.6 Billion dollars for free cell phones for the poor!

Can't wait to see Obama's budget monday. Should be laughs galore!

67 million Americans receiving over $32,000 a year in government benefits.....while average wage is about the same......,..where is the incentive to take a job?????? Reduce the amount or limit the time.......

And Exxon/Mobile/et al receiving more than that EACH,...Where is the incentive to wean from the government teat for corporations who have paid NO Income Tax for the recent few years?

Can't say they aren't profitable, now can you?

Exactly what I would do also if I were a Democrat when the budget/spending issue comes up..........change the subject fast

I'm not changing the subject - you mentioned 67 million Americans receiving $32,000 a year in government benefits (unsourced; but I'll assume you read that SOMEWHERE on the internets) and I mention TWO corporations that have received BILLIONS in Government benefits,...

Seemed germane to the conversation about whether we help 67 Million (pretty sure you pulled that from your keister) over TWO Corporate Personhoods,...

I'm still trying to find the incentive to wean those teat sucking corporations. Are you? Can you not provide me with the incentive needed? Stay focused and stay on point,...and any ole' time you want to source that 67 Million,...I'm ready and waiting.

Clara:

[I'm not changing the subject - you mentioned 67 million Americans receiving $32,000 a year in government benefits (unsourced; but I'll assume you read that SOMEWHERE on the internets)]

"Unsourced" is correct...nothing at all except maybe he's talking about unemployment bennies...although it wouldn't surprise me if he picked it up from FoxNation or The Blaze.

Actually it was the Heritage Foundation that reported ON THE FIGURES RELEASED BY THE GOVERNMENT......67.3 million people. FOX did report the story.......who else???? Eric Boilling reported the yearly average on FOX.

1Hiram...question...do the $32K govt payments include payments to disabled veterans?

Patirica 48 - 1Hiram got suddenly quiet, didn't he/she?

SeekingSanity...interesting. I just returned...and no response. I think it does include payments to Veterans. Do you know?

How's this for "working the numbers":

Seniors are collecting Social Security: (just spitballin' here) $15,000/year (paid for by the FICA tax)

Seniors covered by Medicare: with the insane cost of medical care, could easily be on average $17,000/yr (paid for by Medicare tax)

TA-DA! You have the Hysterical Foundation's figure of *67 MILLION AMERICANS ARE GETTING $32,000/yr!!!!!!!!!!* Conveniently leaving out that their "benefits" were already paid for. Implicit in their fraud masquerading as "Research" is that the 67 million were receiving something for nothing.

Sorry, but the Heritage Foundation has earned its reputation for tainted and unreliable "research".

Patricia 48 - I don't know - sorry!

Sadly for CPAC, any protection of constitutional liberty is a "government overreach of religion."

Well, you know what they say, "86% of all statistics are made up on the spot."

.....gotta work some too.......

I do not know for sure.....Good question!!!...the way it was expressed and the large number it equates to leads me to say "YES" it does include VA benefit payments........One section that actually deserves the funds and COLA applied each year........unemployment on the other hand would be better served if it was decreased a small % each month after a certain number of months........the cell phone program is a joke.....I know of people abusing that in my area....they are being used as Birthday and Christmas gifts in our area......with the parents laughing about it....just as I hear weekly people say they are not gonna look or take a job till their benefits run out.....turns my stomach......I am in a county of 68,000.......do the math in your head....expand that nation wide ......

Chester.......talking about spewing off at the mouth ....did you hear Jack Lew all out lie about the US budget process on MTP yesterday.......OR he could just be another inept Obama appointee........he claimed the reason the Senate has not passed a budget the last 3 years is because they can't get 60 votes and blames that on the GOP member of the Senate. Lew is an idiot as is the MTP crew....,...all budget resolutions only reguire a simple majority.......51 votes. He sid this UNCORRECTED on three different shows this past weekend..........the only stationto call him and the WH out on the issue were the SO-CALLED lying POSs at FOX NEWS.......too funny

Well Hiram, everyone that disagrees with you is not stupid. Sometimes they're just better informed. In theory, passing most bills in the Senate should require only 51 votes. Unfortunately, your Republican friends in the Senate have made it a rule that they will filibuster every bill that passed the House when the Democrats had the majority there. Because of this, you need 60 votes just to debate any bill, never mind actually voting on it. You can check for yourself. The GOP minority in the Senate has filibustered hundreds of bills that passed the House, even some that were eventually passed without opposition. By the way, it is amusing to hear Republicans complain now that they control the House that Harry Reid won't bring up their bills. In case you don't know this, Reid is the Majority Leader, so he knows those bills won't pass. One more thing, Fox ix not stupid either; they're just liars.

too funny Cal.......nothing to disagree on......Budget Resolutions only need a majority and can not be filibustered........acts of war also can not be filibustered........seems all Democrats and Liberals are ignorant of this fact also so don't feel bad.....LOOK IT UP.......I already have........I started laughing the first time I heard Jack say it.......uncorrected on three different shows

Could it be that Republicans don't want to raise taxes and offer a balanced way (and budget) to reduce the deficit??? They have to keep paying their corporate overlords.

Perhaps we need to cut the budget AND raise taxes. While the Democrats have proposed both, the Republicans refuse to consider any tax increases. Perhaps they should remember that just because they're the majority party in the House, they have to represent ALL Americans, not just the slice that elected them.

Actually POTUS said he would have us out of Iraq "by 2009" during his campaign, shifted our military from Iraq t. o Afganistan (so as not to have an actual troop draw down and still look good) then waited another 16 months to end the Iraq war. He started a war with Libya (cost was BILLIONS) we had no business getting involved in and at a time when we were debating how to keep our own government from shutting down becuse we can't afford to keep it running. Funny how billions for war were no problem to produce huh? This is not ending war it is political BS and keeps the war machine rolling. If he is re-elected we will still go to war with Iran because his postmasters want it that way and we are already poised to do so. He is already proved a wonderful puppet. The only man that wants to stop war for real is the republican everyone calls crazy. He is demonized for his "insane/dangerous" foreign policy of peace because he would stop the wars for real and they all know it. PS if POTUS IS re-elected I will see if I can contact you to say "I told you so " after the war starts.

"focused like a laser on jobs and the economy from day one"........wonder if Obama will use that old line again. Obamacare takes $500 billion from medicare to expand Medicaid.....shift the burdain to the states. Please continue the misinformation

"focused like a laser on jobs and the economy from day one".

Wonder if republicans will use that again too. So far all they want to do is shred the safety net and declare war on women, workers, gays, immigrants and unions.

Let's not forget the primary goal we don't share with the Republicans---their stated goal of defeating President Obama at every turn, culminatiing in a defeat in 2012. I will say they have never wavered from this goal, even when it hurt their fellow citizens.

Wouldn't it have been refreshing if Sen. DeMint had said---we all love our country and have its recovery as a goal but we have different ideas of how to get there?

$15.2 Trillion deficit and growing...........what do you suggest........more spending????

Wouldn't it have been refreshing if Sen. DeMint had said---we all love our country and have its recovery as a goal but we have different ideas of how to get there?

But that wouldn't arouse the base.

96ws6 - and you just make "facts" up! We are not/were not in a war in Libya costing us Billions. We did very little in this operation - had no boots on the ground, etc. But, you of course make up "facts" to fit your needs. And, just because you clearly missed the memo - the GOP is the war party. If we were to elect a Republican to the Presidency, a war with Iran is certain. If you'll recall, little Bushie started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - is your memory that short???? And, of course, he didn't include their costs in his budget. Funny how that worked out!

Why is it you teapublicans are so wound up over deficit spending now? Where were you when George W. Bush and his Republican Congress gave us us two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, a massive, unfunded, new entitlement, the largest expansion of government since LBJ all while turning the largest surplus of all times into the largest deficit of all times You tea-baggers worshiped the ground Bush walked on. You were telling us he was the best president of all times. Now you act like they guy never existed and blame all his screw-ups on President Obama.

Your attempt to portray this child of priviledge as some knid of a selfmade man falls a bit flat. The missionary service in France was to dodge the draft. Worked his way through college? You must be a graduate of the GOP school of revisionist history.

Actually POTUS said he would have us out of Iraq "by 2009" during his campaign,

And the Republicans promised to concentrate on jobs during the 2010 Congressional campaign. Why are we surprised when candidates don't keep their campaign promises? They'll promise anything to get elected, as they have for decades. Sometimes they just outright lie. Other times, I believe that they're quite sincere in their promises, but it is easy to promise something until you're behind the scenes and realize all the problems that can prevent you from carrying out the promises.

Obama was probably sincere in promising an early exit from Iraq. But, that would've been before he was exposed to the full intelligence and operational details as President.

Well said, My Friend! Well said!

baldeagle11

Absurd generalizations! As I see it BOTH sides are guilty and accountable for failure to reach any sort of beneficial compromise.

Stereotypes are certainly based upon factual characteristics but I am sure you would have to admit carrying stereotypes too far is terribly counter-productive.

There is certainly nothing but partisian posturing in Mr. DeMint's statements here, but frankly the other side has not shown me much but the party line either. Funny but I am beginning to see President Obama as perhaps one of Washington's moderates!

Democrats care about the poor and elderly? Really? The Democrats believe its the governments responisibility and the Republicans believe the responsibility lies with family, friends, neighbors, church, community, etc. Which is why those who lean more to the Center / Center Right give more to the needy and those on the left just assume forget about it and let the Government deal with it.

jfk-2112-

i have heard this before that republicans are the people who donate to charity and the democrats do not. Where is the source for this- is it based upon tax returns and perhaps Republicans file more long forms where they get a credit for charitable giving?

[Republicans believe the responsibility lies with family, friends, neighbors, church, community, etc.]

Huh...

Family: broke...

Friends: broke...

Neighbors: broke...

Church: broke...

Community: broke...

Etc: broke...

JFK - nothing could be farther from the truth! Democrats give more time and money to charity. The GOP just gives when they can make a show of it!

The Democrats believe its the governments responisibility and the Republicans believe the responsibility lies with family, friends, neighbors, church, community, etc.

What happens when neighbors and churches don't come through? Churches demand the right to discriminate and won't serve everyone. Or, what if your community has grown poorer over the years (for instance, Detroit) and its charitable institutions no longer has the resources to meet the demands placed on them for assistance. Private charities have a very important role in filling gaps, but I'd much rather have the government provide a safety net than bet my life on charities.

...but as Ann Coulter said 'our blacks are better than their blacks'!...

...........racists much!

chilled - oooooh - you quoted Ann Coulter? Don't you feel the need to go take a shower? Yuck!

Line item veto -- been there, can't do that. It was enacted into law in 1996 and was declared unconstitutional in 1998. So, if you want a line item veto(and it's not a bad idea) crank up the Constitutional Amendment machine.

Romney used it in CT and it wasn't challenged? Wow, the people of CT must be very easy going. I don't think my state would allow the governor of a neighboring state to veto our legislation.

Most, if not all states, give the governor line-item veto power. The reason that it isn't challenged is that, in most cases, it is in the state's constitution or the law that enables that authority doesn't violate the state constitution. The federal situation is different.

Affinity 1,

I've not independently verified these numbers and i'm quoting them from memory, but the source is someone I respect for his intelligence and integrity, conservative NYT columnist David Brooks. On the PBS Charlie Rose show he shared that the life expectancy of a child born to Native American parents in the upper Midwest is 26 years shorter than that of a child born to parents in one of the affluent NJ suburbs of NYC. In addition, a child born to a family with income of over $100K has a better than 1 in 10 chance of graduating from college. The odds for a child born to a family with income of under $32K is in the 1 to 100+ range. The message is that we're becoming Europe, and not the Socialist Europe derided by conservatives, but the old aristocratic Europe where you were born where you will end. If conservatives succeed in killing off public education, assistance for college, retirement benefits and affordable medical care for all, they will have completed their objectives and Senator DeMint can retire.

No wonder congress has a 13% approval rating

Phil,

Actually according to the latest Gallup Poll it is now down to 10%!

Just how low can they go?

Feisty,
apparently DeMint sees no reason to change course.
the word is delusion

With such a low approval rating, say goodbye to many Democratic Senators up for reelection in 2012.

Senate goes GOP, it is a lock.

Feisty, apparently DeMint sees no reason to change course. the word is delusion

Phil,

In typical GNOP fashion, they double down on stupid!

...nice avatar booby...

Nobody

But

Obama...

TO: Bob-1887910 who wrote:

"With such a low approval rating, say goodbye to many Democratic Senators up for reelection in 2012..."

Haven't you heard, Republicans don't have shared values with the American People at least 50% of which ARE Democrats.

Republicans' ONLY concerns are for the wealthy, and there are a whole lot more average Americans than there are Rich ones.

Obama / Biden 2012

there are a whole lot more average Americans than there are Rich ones.

But sadly most of them vote against their own interest because they're one-issue votors. For example, social conservatives.

The takers need the producers more than the other way around.

peanutGalleryTheater - as a working Independent - who has friends who are Independents, Democrats and Republicans, you'll need to be more specific. I know that I and all of my friends work and produce. So, the takers would be???? Are you talking about the people who are now working 2 jobs and still cannot make enough to adequately care for their families? Are you talking about the veterans on the streets who came back to no jobs? Are those the takers you refer to????

From where I stand, all you are "producing" is a lot of BS!

peanutGT....So in your mind, only "conservatives" produce and only "liberals" are the takers? Do I read that correctly? Interesting theory. Your are grotesquely miss-informed and I really do feel sorry for you.

I personally know more "conservative" tax cheats, takers, liars and outright theives that make even YOU look like a flaming liberal.

One problem with assuming that low approval ratings will result in huge turn-over in Congress is that studies have shown that while people may give Congress low marks, then tend to look more favorably on their own representatives. Now, ratings for Congress may be so low this time that people will be willing to kick out their own incumbents. But, usually the feeling is that it is OTHER senators and reps who need to be replaced, not the voter's own.

"equal" by pulling the productive people down. I'd rather have freedom to success or fail of my own fault than be dependent on some distant, detacted govt for handouts. The govt giveth and the govt taketh away.

Against all the people or specifically those people who are extremely conservative? He is talking to the fringe who go to events like CPAC. Not the "PEOPLE".

Mruseurhead - clearly the delusional one is you. The GOP stated from day one their one goal was to make Obama a one-term President - to hell with what is good for the country. And, they've done everything they can to make that a reality - blocking each and every bill this President proposed. But, Americans are not stupid (except those that keep voting Tea Party - whole other story). We will vote out the obstructionists in 2012 - that means the GOP!