Do any of the RWNJ’s seriously believe President Obama would just roll over for Karl Rove & Co.?

There is NO way Democrats are going to be stuck in traffic while, the Koch Brothers & the rest of brotherhood of billionaires zoom by in the express lanes.

It's time to fight fire with fire - get over it!

“I was against Citizen’s United and Super PAC’s before I was for them. If I were to stand by my beliefs and principles, I might end up losing MY job. I find that possibility unacceptable, and I think a great many Americans’ will agree with me.”

-Barry Obama, 10:00 PM EST, February 6, 2012

For all the FR lefty liberals that fit the famous Jack Nicholson line in A Few Good Men:

“The TRUTH!?! You can’t handle the truth!!”

Please start collapsing this post now.

LMAO!!!!

Excerpts from Politico:

Obama embraces the super PAC
By: Glenn Thrush
February 6, 2012 11:04 PM EST

President Barack Obama — in an act of hypocrisy or necessity, depending on the beholder — has reversed course and is now blessing the efforts of a sputtering super PAC, Priorities USA Action, organized to fight GOP dark-money attacks.

On Monday morning, Obama reviled the “negative” tone of the super PACs, a dominant fundraising source in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision. But by the evening, word leaked to POLITICO that Obama had offered his support for Priorities USA Action, which thus far has raised a fraction of what GOP-backed groups have raked in.

The timing of the announcement seemed rushed, several Democrats told POLITICO. It was made in a 10 p.m. call to Obama’s top bundlers, known as the National Finance Committee.

Republicans lost no time in blasting Obama’s move Monday night.

“Yet again, Barack Obama has proven he will literally do anything to win an election, including changing positions on the type of campaign spending he called nothing short of a ‘threat to our democracy,’” said Joe Pounder, the Republican National Committee’s research director. “In less than 24 hours, Obama has gone from decrying super PACs in the morning to opening up the door to their money during a conference call with his big money donors in the middle of the night.”

So our pure-as-the-driven-snow president has decided to do an about face and embrace the evil concept of Super PACs. Yesiree, his previously strident criticism that such groups were a "threat to our democracy" has apparently been subordinated by the cynical calculation that it would be better to undermine democracy than risk losing the 2012 election. Or as FR put it: "it's a losing proposition to always put principle above winning." Ouch.

Ah, such delicious irony: the man who fooled the gullible with a siren call for hope and change once again shows he's just a common political hack who will do whatever it takes win. But his adoring hoards will no doubt turn a blind eye (yet again) to demonstrable evidence that their emperor has no clothes -- after all, why let the facts stand in the way of their fanciful narrative. Of course the bright side to this sordid tale is the sanctimonious left will have one less high horse to ride. That's a good thing for all of us, but especially for them: the way they keep falling off those horses, sooner or later someone is going to get hurt.

Nope. The word "super pac" doesn't appear anywhere in the Constitution. But then again, neither does "abortion" and you libs managed to find it in there somehow.

And does Obama really think it's a good idea to pick a nasty fight with the nation's 70 million Catholics? Lemme guess, Libs think it's great because Catholics, being Christian, are by definition "right wing nut jobs"???? Proceed at your own peril... Libs already told us last week that they care MORE about abortion than cancer research. Wow. You people sure have your priorities, don't you? Again, proceed at your own peril...

Joe in Albany

LYAO

In an effort to take on Planned Parenthood, Rep. John Fleming, R-La., decided to share a news article on Facebook about the health organization' secret project: a "long-planned $8 billion Abortionplex.

"Nearly 50 million tiny, defenseless children have been aborted since the Supreme Court's infamous Roe v. Wade decision in 1973," Fleming's campaign Web site reads. "This is our national sin, shame and disgrace."

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/293929/20120206/congressman-planned-parenthood-onion-article-abortionplex.htm

“More on Planned Parenthood, abortion by the wholesale,” wrote Rep. Fleming (or more likely an overzealous staffer) before linking to the post. Just hours after the link was posted, Rep. Fleming’s office deleted the post, but not before the blog literally unbelievable grabbed a screenshot:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fleming_onion.jpg

Now, it turns out that liberals can wear more than just the label with pride. They can also take comfort in the fact that they’re smarter than their political opponents, according to a new study by Canadian psychologists. In a paper published by Psychological Science, the researchers have determined that right-wingers tend to be less intelligent than their liberal counterparts.

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/life/are-liberals-really-brighter-or-do-republicans-play-dumb-on-purpose/

GOP Introduces New "Mystery Candidate" With Paper Bag Over Head

Republicans will reveal the identity of the Mystery Candidate only after he, or she, wins the election.

http://www.theonion.com/video/gop-introduces-new-mystery-candidate-with-paper-ba,27271/

After all, did Obama lose a single vote in '08 due to his public-financing reversal?

Nor will he in 2012!

Keep on dreaming screaming right wing nuts... lol

We know how much it bothers you, when the playing field is LEVEL!

SuperPac Money. Why shouldn't our President take the money? What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

This is going to be a knock down election and President Obama needs all the weapons he can get. If the money battle is even, there's no way Romney (or who ever it is) can go toe to toe with our President.

Four more years.

Obama in 2012.

Hypocricy? The real hypocrisy was denouncing Super PAC money- while starting one. I guess all the liberals believe that the two White House aides who left their jobs to begin an Obama supporting Super PAC did so without Obama's blessing.

Then again, they believe in battery operated cars. The disturbing thing about that is, it costs all the rest of us billions of dollars to find those failures. Case in point- Fisker Automotive. Ah, yes, the super con job is back in the news. After blowing through more than a half a billion in tax payer dollars, building a plantin Finland, and failing to meet any deadline for production, Fisker is now laying off personnel in both California and Delaware, (not Finland, mind you), in order to qualify for MORE taxpayer funds.

I swear, the ony thing that exceeds the corruption of this administration is the sheer idiocy of the rules they create.

And, in even more proof that political expediency is bad for the country, there is this

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/opinion/nocera-the-poisoned-politics-of-keystone-xl.html?_r=1

You can file the fact that Canada is going to sell its oil to China now that Obama has killed Keystone under "I told you so".

Because I did.

Reading the conservatives claims regarding Super PACs and President Obama's decision to accept the money is funny. Oh, he's a flip flopper, blah blah; that's not what he said in 2008, blah blah. Well, thanks to the right-wing activists on the Supreme Court's decision to claim that "corporations are people", one man named Sheldon Adelson is paying for Newt Gingrich's campaign. Asking President Obama to fight with one arm behind his back while the opposition collects and uses millions of dollars against him is hardly a fair fight. Both sides must, unfortunately, play by the same rules. To fix the horrendous decision by SCOTUS requires a Constitutional amendment. Tweeking the edges does not level the playing field. The right-wing activist judges opened the flood gates just as President Obama warned in his SOTU speech after the Citizens United decision. Newt Gingrich is proof of that.

Joe, Albany. You accused me last week of collapsing your post. Sorry to disappoint but I do not collapse posts; while I may disagree with you, your posts are not death threats or otherwise inflammatory nor are they violations of Newsvine's COH. I prefer to let your words stand for all to read.

Two, do Republican critics of the Clint Eastwood/Chrysler ad – like Karl Rove yesterday – look like they are rooting against America and the rebounding U.S. auto industry? Remember, the Bush administration also helped bail out Chrysler.

I don't see one single Republican supporting the America worker. Not one. Even here on First Read, where are the GOP supporters in their praise for how the American worker has turned things around in Michigan? They took quite a hit in their pockets but it appears that everyone worked together as a team to turn things around.

As far as this ad being political, when I first saw it my initial reaction was my goodness, what a terrific ad. I wasn't thinking about President Obama at the time, I was just thinking of the people in this ad who were given a chance to make things right with help from the American taxpayers. They are doing the impossible is what I was thinking as I watched it. And then I remembered - these are the people who built America - the American worker. Nothing is impossible to them if given an opportunity.

If anyone in either party doesn't want to give President Obama credit, then I think it's pathetic. Was it Ed last night who said 75% of the country was against helping the auto industry?

They would not have succeeded if President Obama didn't stand with them. That's a fact. And he deserves all the credit in the world for not turning his back on them.

One of the most uninspiring actors I have ever come across is Clint Eastwood. I have always found him void of personality on the screen, except for one movie - Unforgiven.

And if he doesn't support President Obama after what he did to help the auto workers then I honestly don't know what it will take for people like Eastwood to support him.

Other than that, good ad with a good spokesman in Clint Eastwood. People seem to like him. He was never my cup of tea. Boring. As was Gregory Peck. (sorry, but he WAS boring - handsome as hell, but rather dull on screen) LoL.

Anyone barking on this reversal is simply idiotic. The president decried the super PAC and duly called for an immediate action to correct it rather GOP chose to look the other way and now they're drooling all over the place.

Obama/Biden 2012

Pat Boston MA

I agree with you Clint is rather boring. A very handsome bore! However that voice of his always makes you turn to the TV. That was what Chrysler was looking for and they got it. Imagine 111 mllion people doing that for $6 million dollars. Quite a cheap ad with all the attention it has gotten in the last 48 don't you think?

You can file the fact that Canada is going to sell its oil to China now that Obama has killed Keystone under "I told you so".

Oh, please...aren't you a little old to believe in fairy tales?

The oil, if it goes to British Columbia, will be sold to the highest bidder...same as if it was shipped to Texas. It's called "The Free Market".

I don't think the term "super-PAC" is in the Constitution.

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Neither is the term"govt mandated health insurance".

And yet Barry and the lefty liberals are rushing to impose it on all Americans, including trampling on the religious beliefs of a major American religious denomination.

Go for it Mr. President, and equal the playing field. No way can we let this radical right grab the White House and send us backwards.

Obama / Biden 2012

no joe, no bo, nj

I swear, the ony thing that exceeds the corruption of this administration is the sheer idiocy of the rules they create.

And, in even more proof that political expediency is bad for the country, there is this

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/opinion/nocera-the-poisoned-politics-of-keystone-xl.html?_r=1

You can file the fact that Canada is going to sell its oil to China now that Obama has killed Keystone under "I told you so".

Because I did.

Yea, well put this in your fracking crack pipe; Donna

Koch Industries handles 25 percent of this oil, and the brothers stand to make millions of dollars from the pipeline's construction. Koch Industries handles 25% of this oil, and the brothers stand to make millions of dollars from the pipeline's construction, which could generate $15tn for special interests in North America.

Flint Hills Resources was born out of a desire to better compete and pursue opportunities in the refining and chemicals industries. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of KOCH INDUSTRIES, Inc., and has independent leadership and separate financial decision-making authorities. Flint Hills Resources was named for the Flint Hills of Kansas, an area that features lush tall grass prairies, pristine natural springs and beautiful vistas. The company’s headquarters is in Wichita, Kan., near the Flint Hills.

http://www.fhr.com/about/history.aspx

Also, Romney as Governor: Two Companies Run by Campaign Contributors Received Government Loans Then Defaulted. According to the Boston Herald, “GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has hammered President Obama for his administration’s tax-funded investment blunders — but when Romney was governor, the state handed out $4.5 million in loans to two firms run by his campaign donors that have since defaulted, leaving taxpayers holding the bag. The two companies — Acusphere and Spherics Inc. — stiffed the state on nearly $2.1 million in loans provided through the state’s Emerging Technology Fund, a $25 million investment program created while Romney was governor in 2003 that benefitted 13 local firms. Acusphere, a biotechnology firm headed by a Romney campaign donor, got $2 million in 2004 that it was supposed to put toward a $20 million manufacturing facility in Tewksbury, which never became fully operational. Calls to Acusphere’sheadquarters in Lexington were not returned.” [Boston Herald, 12/1/11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWDpMs0DfqY&feature=player_embedded

I agree with you Clint is rather boring. A very handsome bore! However that voice of his always makes you turn to the TV. That was what Chrysler was looking for

Good point Ana. I just don't want people to feel like they have to tread lightly when supporting President Obama for his willingness to help these workers.

Profile in Courage against a lot of negativity at the time. I remember it well. Especially on MSNBC.

You can never lose when you stand by the American worker. Just tune out the media and the GOP and instead look to working Americans. They will NEVER let you down when you ask them to do a job.

NEVER. The pundits built nothing. Wall Street built nothing. It's the American worker who built our country. With pride.

Not utilizing a super pac authorized by the Supreme Court would be like playing a football game with 7 players against the other team's 11. Sure, you can do it, but why would you?

Just another example of Obama's "feet of clay." He said he was against the 'pacs" in 2008. Said he was against corporate money in politics, and against lobbyists. Then he turns around and gave out no bid contracts, and millions of dollars in federally guaranteed loans to Siga Technologies, and Solyndra.....and they just happened to be two of his biggest contributors. All I hear from the far left is this talk about the rich and how evil they are. Then you see things like this going on with Obama.

Pure unadulterated hypocrisy.

where are the GOP supporters in their praise for how the American worker has turned things around in Michigan? They took quite a hit in their pockets but it appears that everyone worked together as a team to turn things around.

Umm, hate to rain on your parade but the resurgence of pent up demand for cars has had a teensy bit to do with the way Detroit has "turned things around." The fact of the matter is that when the financial meltdown hit, global demand for cars fell off a cliff. Strong companies like Ford, Toyota, BMW etc were able to ride out the storm and live to fight anothered day. But weak sisters like GM and Chrysler didn't have a chance so the government decided to step in and bail them out. What has happened since is that is as consumer appetite for cars has increased, the finances of all car companies have improved.

So the resurgence has had much more to do with stronger global demand for cars than a mythical view of the contribution of auto workers. And since GM still owes us well over $20 billion in this deal, one could make the case that their "turnaround" has a long way to go.

What "offended" Karl Rove about the Chrysler commercial was that it underscored the success of the auto bailout. Rove finds it offensive that the US auto industry was saved from ruin because it was an Obama success and Rove and all the other "nattering nabobs of negativism" on the far right had predicted disaster. But in alternate reality of Republican politics, there's no penalty for being horribly and ridiculously wrong about everything, as shown by the current prominence of hard right politicians and pundits who predicted that Clinton's tax increases would create economic disaster, who predicted Bush's Iraq war fiasco would be a cake walk, and who promoted the laissez faire regulatory policies that led to the Bush Recession.

BTW: GM is running a commercial with a theme similar to the Chrysler commercial, about how it's come back and how that's good for America. Other companies have run similar commercials in the past after they've gone through a rough times and come out stronger. But the lunatic fringe of the far right will no doubt see these GM and Chrysler commercials as evidence of a conspiracy of "Big Auto" in cahoots with Obama.

j. merle stanley The President is just leveling the playing field.

Smitty, This is something the GOP is steadfast against. Level playing field.

Look at the voter fraud that is going on.

Bloomberg News/Obama Diary

Americans Gaining Energy Independence

The U.S. is the closest it has been in almost 20 years to achieving energy self-sufficiency, a goal the nation has been pursuing since the 1973 Arab oil embargo triggered a recession and led to lines at gasoline stations.

Domestic oil output is the highest in eight years. The U.S. is producing so much natural gas that, where the government warned four years ago of a critical need to boost imports, it now may approve an export terminal. Methanex Corp., the world’s biggest methanol maker, said it will dismantle a factory in Chile and reassemble it in Louisiana to take advantage of low natural gas prices. And higher mileage standards and federally mandated ethanol use, along with slow economic growth, have curbed demand.

The result: The U.S. has reversed a two-decade-long decline in energy independence, increasing the proportion of demand met from domestic sources over the last six years to an estimated 81 percent through the first 10 months of 2011, according to data compiled by Bloomberg from the U.S. Department of Energy. That would be the highest level since 1992.

“For 40 years, only politicians and the occasional author in Popular Mechanics magazine talked about achieving energy independence,” said Adam Sieminski, who has been nominated by President Barack Obama to head the U.S. Energy Information Administration. “Now it doesn’t seem such an outlandish idea.”

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Obama/Biden 2012.

Okay... so this is how it goes down. A hypocrite is a person who espouses ideals, but then acts in contradiction to those ideals.

Obama has been very clear in his stance on super-PACs... to this there is no doubt. This reversal in action is clearly and undeniably hypocritical.

The Republicans have made no bones about super-PACs or inferring that they'd take a higher road. They have subscribed to their use... and that's the way it goes. Is it hypocritical for the Republicans to call out Obama on his hypocrisy??? Heck no... that is accurate and factual. Is it hypocritical for Republicans to infer that Obama is morally bankrupt for his reversal??? Perhaps... but if they are doing this in comparison to themselves then the Republicans too, are now also hypocrites.

Was there ever any doubt Obama wouldn't partake? He has as many billionaires in his back pocket, and corporate lobbyists in his office as any of his competition. Do I need to remind anybody of how much money he drew from corporations in 2008? or how it dwarved McCain? And why not... corporations love Romney and Obama... as long as these two keep the government spending, they win. This hyper-partisan display from the First Read regulars is repetitious and so myopic that the real issues are missed while they make knife lunges at others.

It's lovely to see how blatant the COH violations have become in First Read these days. Beverly and Feisty can't seem to follow rule #1 and regress to calling people asses and stupid. Classy ladies, very classy. ... Eventually this long record of COH violations will catch up to you.

I understand why the President reversed his policy however this was bad time to announce. The New York Times had a front page article about the presidents campaign having to return funds to the brothers of a fugitive. The controversy over the Affordable Health Care Act and the Catholic Church. I don't know how much coverage you are getting in your parts but in the tri-state area this is a big deal.

Flip flop? Why disagree and speak against citizen united and super pacs and then do this? Perhaps Obama has to realistically use Super Pac money to compete but the President did a disservice to his message by publically pushing the Pac. Maybe I watch too much Colbert show but how can cabinet members in the administration coordinate with a Pac?

After all, did Obama lose a single vote in '08 due to his public-financing reversal?

Perhaps he did. Maybe he will lose more votes in 12 because of his new found support for the tenents of Citizen's United. It was bad enough to charge $38000 a plate for some pot luck dinner but this. Well like the saying goes - "fools and their money...."

Here comes the usual responds - pot meet kettle, what's good for the goose is good for the gander...

Another reason why I will never give another greenback to any politician. People who want to contribute to a good cause save your money - Salvation Army, Sierra Club, church charities. Do not give any money to politicians.

By the way if you think I am upset over Obama's acceptance of Super Pac money you need to understand the revulsion I have with the GOP for birthing this foul abomination and cancer to our democracy.

Corporations are not people my friend. Money is not speech.

J. Merle Stanley-2759623

What's wrong in leveling the playing field? This shows it's in GOP DNA to always tilt the game toward themselves and when you do the same or ask for a fair play, they come up with all sorts of name calling......envy, jealous, class warfare, etc. It's real now, get use to it.

Obama/Biden 2012

Repeat after me: super-PAC bad, super-PAC bad, super-PAC BAD!!!

Huh? What?!?! Obama for them now?

Repeat after me: super-PAC good, super-PAC good, super-PAC GOOD!!!

Who is the flip-flopper now?

Bill in Fairfax -- Without workers those auto's would never be built. Without consumers the auto makers would be out of business. So yes those companies are rebounding with the help of workers and consumers.

Want to know how powerful consumers are.....look to Netflix and the Banks.

we're not going to allow you buy or steal this election by spewing propaganda

The right opened the floodgates and guess what we're coming to the fight and we'll be well armed.

Go for it Mr. President, and equal the playing field.

Asking President Obama to fight with one arm behind his back while the opposition collects and uses millions of dollars against him is hardly a fair fight.

When the left can't defend the indefensible, they revert to lame talking points like those. Sorry folks, but when Obama jumps on the Super PAC bandwagon that he had previously castigated as a THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY, you just can't spin your way out of that blatant hypocrisy. Your emperor has no clothes, deal with it.

Merle,

But, I have to admit; it IS amusing to watch NastyRedNeck run around, chortling and cackling like her hair is on fire. Her family must have a terrible time with her, because it's plain to see that she has serious mental problems, and needs some form of serious psychological treatment. I hope she gets it before she hurts herself, or someone else.

My debating experience reminds me that when someone really has no rebuttal to a good argument, the next thing they often try is to sling personal insults to discredit the other side. Looks like that's the case to me.

Great job firing up the other side, Feisty! Just makes their arguments (especially Merle's & Joe's) all the more silly.

Bill Fairfax

FYI, we on the left are not defending anything indefensible. Supreme court deemed this super PAC legal and that's what we're embracing. Don't we have the right?

Obama/Biden 2012

Yellowdog.........have you ever noticed that the only high end fundraisers discussed are the ones the President attends. Ask yourself, why is that. do you have any idea how much these private fundraisers rake in from the republicans, not to acknowledge that is really swallowing what the right is feeding you.

As George W. Bush told the attendees at a lavish white tie affair in 2006 you are my base.....the rich and well connected. Many people in the media and the blog sphere have emails sent to them by the various partisan outfits and campaigns, whether they are on the right or left how else are they going to know what is going on, using them is a great way to paint the other side in a negative fashion. It is a fact of political life there are huge sums of money being spent, both sides do it, sometimes it is for their own campaigns sometimes national political are included, been going on forever. To point at the President as if he were the only recipient of huge donations or admission fees is just wrong.

So the resurgence has had much more to do with stronger global demand for cars than a mythical view of the contribution of auto workers. And since GM still owes us well over $20 billion in this deal, one could make the case that their "turnaround" has a long way to go.

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And how long does anyone think it will take for the UAW to start licking its chops and begin demanding much higher wages, much better benefits, and much more restrictive work rules now that GM is profitable?? I can hear the strike threats and see the picket signs already. Yesterday's WSJ front page article on GM's expected $8 billion 2011 profit and its goal of a $10 annual profit in the next year or two sure won't help things.

LOL!!!

Hey JMS- what the heck do you mean blame America first crowd have you not been reading Pat in Boston's posts? Stop saying stuff that is totally false it makes your other opinions look suspect.

Those of you who complain that the president is a hypocrite, you would have called him stupid for doing the other and we all know he's not stupid and maybe that's what riles you. Don't be angry because you know that's what you would do in his position.

America wants a winner- we'll play by your rules activist judges!

bill in fairfax va if you were in a fight & your opponent has a knife, would you still fight him without a weapon? That would be pretty stupid if you didn't pick up a knife or something bigger to right? You know if I see that you have a advantage with a knife. I would try to find something bigger to take your a$$ out. That is called survival.

Obama Biden2012

I think republicans are upset, because they realize they are going to get destroyed by the very vehicle they thought would help them destroy Obama.

Apparently you all dont mind if China funds our elections and hand picks our president?

The rest of us do...and wish SUPER PACS werent legal.

But since they are...we'll play this sh!tty game you all set up.

Dont HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME - right?

Gingerbread mamma - I never said that the Democrats or the President where the only recipients of big money or fancy big ticket plates.

Republicans do it...The birds do it, the bees do it. What you say has been going on forever. What is new is the SuperPac.

I call them like I see them, doesn't matter if its my guy or theirs. The problem is I don't care what they do, I am not for them. I am for Obama. The foul practice of unlimited money masquerading as speech is wrong. Being complicant in accepting super pac money was perhaps necessary, however advocating and pushing its support gives it legitamacy.

May not always be right but I will always speak my mind.

I love the far righties - like Joe in Albany - who think President Obama should just roll over and let the right wing PAC's buy the White House. You have to fight back on an equal footing and the President is doing just that. Of course, it just hurts Joe to know Obama will raise millions more than the GOP!

"I see stupid people and they do not even know they are stupid"

can this statement be applied to most how post on M(B)SNBC, (both party)??

does 2 wrong make a right?

does this mean that the Dem always supported the "Super PAC" donation?

Isn't life strange.......

Have a good week.

politics is the art of raising money for elections, " give me enough money ", I will elect Jessie Jackson grand wizard of the KKK "

Its nice to know that when one party becomes scum, the other party decides that is a good reason to become scum as well.

My election choice is always made difficult because I have to decide whether Democrats or Republicans are racing faster to the bottom of the filth heap.

You all go on and keep acting like one of them wears white hats. You do that while your voice is taken away by both political parties.

Watch all investigations into Super Pacs to cease.

Our liberal God, Obama, has spoken. He can do no wrong!

Can I say I TOLD YOU SO! How many times have I reminded that Obama turned down public money to hide where his came from in the last election? For weeks we have been reading his "volunteer" posters rants about the evils of super pacs and ranting about how wrong the Supreme Court was to allow it. Remember Obama insulting the Supreme Court in front of God and Everyone for that decision? Yet, oh my, thier savior takes the same Super Pac money, which he took last time and oh, its ok because "he had to the other guy did it!". AS usual evil is only evil if the other guy is doing it. LMAO. What a joke he and his supporters are. Stand on principals? First you have to have some so that ain't happening!

So Joey in Albany is collapsing his OWN posts to make himself seem more interesting?

That's just funny right there!

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Dear Mr. President,...thank you for finally deciding that if there is going to be a set of rules in this election - You may as well play by them, too!

I know it will set the Tighty Righties hair on fire, as Feisty has already pointed out, they simply CANNOT stand it when you level the playing field. They are REALLY going to go into a tail spin when they manage to TILT the machine and lose all of their 'balls' - proverbially speaking, of course.

RatPoison - excellent post!

In this case, I think Obama is being hypocritical (as I think he was in 2008 when he decided to not take public financing). There have been plenty of times in my life when I could have benefited from going against my principles, but for me it's always been more important to stick with my principles. This does not appear to be the case for Obama. If a candidate starts out saying they are taking other people's money, that's one thing...but if someone says they will be different, then change their mind when they think it's to their advantage - for me, that's not acceptable. (and, yes, I apply the same rule to Republicans that preach about morality and then have affairs)

"My debating experience reminds me that when someone really has no rebuttal to a good argument, the next thing they often try is to sling personal insults to discredit the other side. Looks like that's the case to me."

This is priceless, GuessWhat 54 you posted the above comment and in the same post you write that you praise the same person who insults and fires personal attacks against people who disagress with her?

How much debating expierence do you have? Did you start today?

"Great job firing up the other side, Feisty! Just makes their arguments (especially Merle's & Joe's) all the more silly."

A prophecy came true in 2008! And in the last 3 plus years people like bev, the corruptor, and carrot top have validated this prediction with their inane comments and 'cut and pastes'!

"As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright moron."

--- H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

....and it only took America 88 years to do it! Don't you people care that the administration is lying to you every day? Wake up folks and lets end it! Vote for change in 2012! Romney/Rubio!

No surprise, "the ends justify the means" WAS brought into the modern context by fellow socialist Marx.

derek I'm glad you said both party's are scum. I'm ok with that. Both party's have been calling each other names for years. All I ask is where do you stand. You never said that. You explained the problem. What do we do to fix the problem?

RE: the Chrysler ad with Clint Eastwood. I watched the whole ad and I thought it was tremendous. I was at a friend's house with about 35 other people. When the ad came on, people were at first talking, then, as the ad continued, people started getting quiet and really listening. The longer it went, the more people were getting quiet and really paying attention to what was being said. It was a real upbeat ad for the auto industry. I didn't realize until the very end that it was for Chrysler.

Carl Rove made a big mistake in condemning this ad. That action too closely matches the premise that the GOP is against workers and only for wealthy corporations. The Democrat party should fully exploit the attacks on America made by the establishment GOP. The determination of the Rethuglicans to obtain power at all costs has made them the enemy of all Americans.

You can't take a knife to a gun fight.

Despite what the TP wants you to think, Obama is not stupid.

[You can file the fact that Canada is going to sell its oil to China...]

Canada was going to do that anyway, so what's your point?

Oh? WHat's that, you say? You have none?

...yes, we know...

That's all it takes for someone to reverse their moral and ethical standards???

Or are they playing GOOD COP BAD COP again.

The Republicans are doing it so I must change course.

It's a sad state of affairs here in this country.

The message that I'm getting from this decision is the fact that the Republicans are ready to sell the people out for money and power anyway.
But, the President will sell the citizens out in order to win.

GOD - we citizens have no power to fight back.
We don't have the ability and knowledge to do what it takes in order to get the evil and the leeches out of our government.

We need to start a new government by which we all sign a letter stating that we no longer want to go by the current rules but, we want fairness, individual freedoms and laws that protect the citizens from being taken advantage of by this government just so the government can continue to make money off of us outside of taxes!!!!!

Pride and Joy: You may disparage the intelligence and honesty of the President all you want, but the solution is not to vote for somebody who has less of both.

"Anything to win baby! Screw any pretend ethics. You don't might if I lie to you again do you?" - BHO.

[So Joey in Albany is collapsing his OWN posts to make himself seem more interesting?]

Clara,

Joey also voted for Caarl Paaladino...and remember, conservatism is a mental disorder.

The determination of the Rethuglicans to obtain power at all costs has made them the enemy of all Americans.

drip101, it seems you've been drinking too many of carrot tops mojitos! What an asinine statement! I suggest you read post 1.66 to find out what you've become....

"Because after all of its criticism of Citizens United and Super PACs, last night’s announcement looks hypocritical no matter how you try and rationalize it."

What? Obama changed his position? That's a first (at least for this week).

Oh, I forgot about GITMO, the Patriot Act, public financing of campaigns, etc., etc., etc.

Wouldn't it be great if we could take ALL of this SuperPac money, and put it towards paying down our debt, supporting education, and providing health benefits?

Not only would there be financial benefit, we would also be spared all of the vicious political attack ads.

Hmmm...

I can understand the basis for calling the president a hypocrite for his reversal, but I do not understand why those on the right feel they can attack him for the move. I do not think it came to many as a surprise that the president would accept money from Super PAC in this case it is a neccessary evil. The president is still against them and unfortunately is going down the road of "if you can't beat them join them."

From reading the article the president and staff already admitted that this goes against what they said before and then offer their explanation. That point is done it is blatantly said that it is against the president's initial stance I do not see how it is important to repeat it over and over when it was already said. The only reason to further expand that point was if you also feel that Super PACS are bad for America which I think is the sentiment of some of the more independent poster I have seen above. You cannot attack the president for accepting this money without attacking any of your candidates as well.

The president is not the only character in this race who can be hit with the label "hyporcite" nor do I think he is the biggest offender. If you want to use that as your flagship for attack atleast concede that your candidate shares quite a simimilar trait.

Waht do they say again? Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house./

Bwaaaaaahaaaaaaaa look at all the right wingers whine and cry. Their heads are exploding. You guys just thought Romney's super-pac raised a lot.?You ain't seen nothing yet. Yahoo, i'm no longer restricted on what I can donate! I find it hysterical that their very own idea is going to chew them up and spit them out. Heck, it already is. It has Gingrich crying like a little girl. LMAO

After receiving money for Super Packs guess who gets billions of dollars of taxpayer's money because of favors owed and guess who gets the DOO DOO END OF THE STICK.....

Every last citizen will pay the cost for the initial investments by corporations for we citizens will owe these corporations not only their funds but, our freedoms.

STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS......

YOU CANNOT PROTECT WRONG EVEN IF YOU LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL YOU ARE PROTECTING...

BUT, OBAMA is Sending the worse message to individuals around the world with this decision.

COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPALS TO WIN AND OR TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!

I hope the universe make everyone responsible for their decisions good and bad at even a much faster pace.
sort of like instance gratification but in the opposite direction.

Bill what is it with you and naked emperors?

I hope China invades us. Several things will happens.

1 ) Everyone here can work in a sweatshop, and all your favorite politicians will take the balance of your money to rule over you since nobody here really cares if they have voice in government anyway.

2) Newsvine can be shut down because there will be no need for posting political party propaganda from fans who won't change their minds anymore. There will be one political party and it will be called NOT YOU.

Great news - Democrats finally take the gloves off and come out fighting.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights most certainly make a left!!!

Can't have it BOTH ways..............!!!

This is NOT about hypocrisy!

Criticizing the game rules while abiding by them is done by all in many areas... taxes: call for raising or lowering taxes but pay your legal amount.... football: call for not allowing certain blocking techniques but using those techniques until the rules change... and on and on.

Super PACs are no different. The GOP Super PACs are so huge that any candidate that doesn't use them will no longer be a candidate. Obama's team is criticizing the rules while abiding by them until the rules change.

It's not hypocritical, it's not being stupid.

I guess when everyone is looking for false drama and when journalists rely of such for profits, it will always occur... a little hypocrisy in journalism? No?

P&J you are about 3 years late with that quote. A moron would run a race against someone collecting unlimited money from secret corporate donations while he was not.

The only thing Obama is being hypocritical about is keeping up with the rules as they were passed down by extremist judges legislating from the bench.

So all of the right-wingers who weren't going to vote for Obama can cry in their Cheerios but he is just playing by the rules you wanted.

From The BBC 2/7/12

The Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, is visiting China for talks that will focus on oil sales, energy and other economic ties.

The four-day visit emphasises efforts by Canada to diversify energy sales as nearly all of its oil exports currently go to the US.

Correspondents say Canada will find a willing buyer in China.

The visit comes soon after a US move to block a major oil pipeline project running across the US from Canada.

Speaking before he set off for Beijing, Mr Harper said the US decision highlighted the need for Canada to expand its exports to new markets.

Washington blocked the project - which would have seen a pipeline running from western Canada, down the length of the US to Texas - on environmental grounds.

Beverly. the Koch's are minor leaguers compared to George Soros - who regularly buys and sells companies the size of the Koch's on a regular basis. And that doesn't include Soro's friends who hold several times the worth in finance and energy as George Soros does.

If you support the First Amendment, it is inconsistent to limit these or any other Political Donations.

Obama does not support the First Amendment Rights of Catholics. But it's no surprise his moral compass points in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Would expect nothing else from a typical corrupt DemocRat.

All we need is COMPLETE transparency. Who is giving what and how much to whom, and who is receiving what and how much from whom.

Of course Obama and the rest of his "we have to pass the Bill so you can see what's in it" hacks would never support that. It would completely expose their money laudering scheme of giving 'Stimulus' Political Pork to their Union Buddies and Crony Capitalist Friends, and then getting it back in the form of Campaign 'Donations.'

Akeem good post. This gives the GOP contenders no right to attack Obama. They've already sold their souls, case in point, look at how they lined up to meet Trump. Look how Gingrich's campaign is financed solely by one rich guy.

I think the only people who can question, Obama's new stance are those on the left or anyone who believed that Superpacs were a bad idea.

Let's agree that Superpac ads are merely the big brother of 'swift boat' attack ads on steroids.

So Barry is going to level the playing field by putting winning over character? Nice.

He has no chance of accomplishing either goal anytime soon.

One and done.

Against it in 2010 election but for it in 2012 when it can help him. our President is a complete hypocrite.

Different day...same @!$%# haha. Our whole country is brainwashed :(

Pride and Joy -

Here's another great quote from H.L. Mencken:

In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

when did Obama say he WOULDNT take Super Pac Money?

DB AkronBeverly. the Koch's are minor leaguers compared to George Soros - who regularly buys and sells companies the size of the Koch's on a regular basis

DB - you are so full of sh$t. The Koch Brothers' companies are all privately held. Neither you nor anyone else in this country knows what they are worth. Their books are totally private.

It simply amazes me what hypocrites the right wingers are.....it's okay for them to get money from Super PACS, but they are so upset because President Obama has had to make a decision to do the same if he wants to level the playing field. Are you all afraid that President Obama will get more money in his campaign chest now that he's pushing for his SuperPAC (probably)? Did you ACTUALLY think that he was stupid and wouldn't have to eventually bow down to the idea of having to have a SuperPAC? Nope, he's not. He may not agree with it, as most of us don't, but you can't fight fire with fire.....you can't go to a gunfight with a knife!! Your conservative Supreme Court judges made the decision....now both parties have to live with it no matter how much it stinks!

It's my opinion that the righties are very upset because they now know that they don't have a chance in Hades of winning the presidency.....and that's the thing that's killing them. So, they'll be hypocrites and call our president names because they are running scared. With Newt and Romney as the only GOP hopefuls....I'd be running scared too!! Get over it guys....put on your big boy panties and deal with it!!

Obama/Biden 2012 FOR SURE!!!

Romney has flip flopped so many times it makes my head spin. Just goes to show that we are willing to do what we have to do to keep President OBAMA in the White House and the Republicans out. If Romney or Newt were to win, we would be in a heap of Sh*t. Not sure why all you folks are worried about it as you are used to the flip flopping. We just evened out the score.

OBAMA 2012

Political Contributions

Contributions through Koch’s political action committee (PAC) are a matter of public record. Since the beginning of the 2006 election cycle, Koch’s PAC spent more on contributions to federal candidates than any other oil-and-gas sector PAC. For that period, Koch Industries and its executives spent $2.51 million compared to next three biggest contributors: Exxon ($1.71 million), Valero ($1.68 million), and Chevron ($1.22 million).

The Kochs or the Koch PAC "donated directly to 62 of the 87 members of the House GOP freshman class" during the 2010 election campaign cycle.^[41] At the state level, they spent "$5.2 million on candidates and ballot measures in 34 states since 2003. They donated directly to 13 governors that won election" in 2010.^[42] They have "pledged to raise $88 million for the 2012 election and have started scheduling events for potential Republican presidential candidates."^[43]

In 2010, Open Secrets reports that Koch Industries' PAC gave $2.7 million to federal candidates. House Democrats received $87,500 and House Republicans $912,000. Senate Democrats received $25,000 and Senate Republicans $232,500.^[44]

Koch Industries is the single largest oil company contributor to both Republican and Democratic candidates for Congress. These contributions total $1,065,750 to the 110th US Congress (as of the third quarter), the largest of which has been to Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS) for $42,950. Rep. Tiahrt, for his part, has consistently voted with the oil industry on energy, war and climate bills. [9]

Additionally, Koch:

• Spent $5.74 million in PAC money for candidates, committees, and campaign expenditures since the 2006 election cycle.
• Contributed at least $270,800 to federal political party committees since the 2006 election cycle.
• Gave $10,000 to Senator Lisa Murkowski in 2010,^[45] who, in January, proposed stripping the EPA of its ability to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, and lamented that BP's Deepwater Horizon oil disaster has temporarily halted exploratory offshore drilling in the arctic planned by Shell Oil for summer 2010, a topic that even many conservative opponents of climate action have remained silent on in the face of the unfolding historic despoiling of the gulf.^[46][47]

Contributions like this from fossil fuel companies to members of Congress are often seen as a political barrier to pursuing clean energy. More information on oil industry contributions to Congress can be found at FollowtheOilMoney.org, a project created by the nonpartisan, nonprofit organization Oil Change International.

Koch Industries gave $948,000 to federal candidates in the 05/06 election cycle through its political action committee (PAC) - 17% to Democrats, 82% to Republicans. ^[48]

Lobbying

Koch wields significant influence on climate change and other issues by direct federal lobbying. Open Secrets reports that Koch Industries :

• spent $8.1 million on lobbying in 2010; ^[49]
• $12.45 million in 2009 ^[50]
• $20 million in 2008 ^[51]
• Spent $37.9 million from 2006 to 2009 for direct lobbying on oil and energy issues, outspent only by ExxonMobil ($87.8 million) and Chevron Corporation ($50 million).^[52]

for the record, most of us think that both parties are screwing us...yet still show up to the polls and vote.

are we hypocrites? or are we just doing our best within the confines of a crappy system?

Yellowdog -- You said:

look at how they lined up to meet Trump

Agreed!!! As if that man has the right to vet the candidates and decide who will run. Romney snuck in through the back door to meet with him. FOR WHAT???? By running to get Trumps approval those candidates made a mockery of themselves and the Republican party. Could you imagine if Democrats had lined up to meet with a Casino mogul to get his/her approval to become President?

CITIZENS UNITED AND SUPER PAC'S MAY SIGNAL THE END OF DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW IT

The Citizens United case did one thing for sure--make money in politics WAY MORE PERVASIVE. Elections have gotten a LOT MORE EXPENSIVE (on the order of 100's of times) in just 2 years. The result is only the mega-wealthy interests can truly play now.

Some quick background: Citizens United is the most blatant case of JUDICIAL ACTIVISM in generations, overturning 100 years of clear American jurisprudence. The decision calls into question the very idea of an "independent judiciary." For the first time corporations have been accorded the same rights as natural citizens to donate unregulated money into political organizations to support political candidates and causes.

The effect has been to allow corporations to donate unlimited amounts of money, without disclosing their doing so, to so-called Super PAC's. According to the Federal Election Commission, the Super PAC'S may not "coordinate" with the candidate they are associated with. Many of the Super PAC's, however, are headed by close former business associates and even past ranking members of the candidate's campaign team.

The Citizens United ruling was either STUNNINGLY NAIVE, or an INTENTIONAL DECISION by the 5 justices (Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy) to shift government into subjugation by mega-wealthy corporate interests. Either way, the implications for democracy in this country are grave. Indeed, the very survival of a representative democracy is now in question.

To get an idea of the effect of Citizens United, consider that President Obama is expected to raise over $1 BILLION dollars in just over 1 year for this election cycle (the old fashioned way--from natural citizens with a $4,500 cap per person, with the average donation being under $200). $1 Billion sounds good, and it would be fantastic (much more than any other candidate for President in U.S. history, and a huge vote of confidence for the President by mostly average citizens) without Citizens United.

Now consider that the Super PAC's controlled by Karl Rove/Koch Brothers, who can join with their wealthy associates, can easily infuse $500 MILLION (1/2 the amount the President will raise in over 1 year) into their Super PAC's IN JUST 1 DAY! One of Mitt Romney's Super PAC's lists something like 23 of his former associates at Bain Capital, and has spent tens of millions of dollars ALREADY in this election cycle and the primary voting has only just begun. Newt Gingrich's associated Super PAC got $10 MILLION dollars over a 4 week period from the billionaire Adelson family out of Las Vegas, effectively keeping his candidacy alive.

Of course the Democrats now must avail themselves of the same rules or be at a severe disadvantage. So there are now Super PAC's associated with President Obama and the Democratic Party.

The vast majority of Americans simply do not realize how much money is in play here now. $1 Billion dollars ain't what it used to be! There are billions and billions of corporate dollars to be 'invested', because the payoff in influencing legislation is such a lucrative proposition for them.

Who really believes the Super PAC's are independent and do not coordinate with the campaigns?

This is the last election cycle where any average American will donate any money to a presidential candidate (Senate and Representatives are next); why bother when against Super PAC money its a drop in the ocean?

What are these mega-wealthy interests buying for all that money?

The answer is OUR VERY DEMOCRACY.

The republicans have more super pacs than candidates. More numerous than weeds along an Oklahoma backroad. Hell, some of 'em contract to other candidates when they don't have one themselves. Principal is strength, but during political campaigns in America, one is wise to safely store it in the bottom of the porn stash until the contest is over. Otherwise, one is likely to wake up the next morning with nothing more than a sore ass and a quarter under ones pillow.

LOL.....

Here we go AGAIN.....Flip flop.....flip flop......flip flop.

Sheesh, another Community Organizer in Chief amateur mistake. But, hey....that is OK. Keep stirring up the quagmire in the White House.

Wait a minute....Mr. Obama says that his On The Job Training is working and he "deserves" another term. LOL.

Time for ANOTHER On the Road Again campaign trip.....which started in February 2009.

One and GONE.

last night’s announcement looks hypocritical

Not as hypcritical as the pro-'Citizens United' hypocrites condemning the President for starting to do what they've been doing all along. (And since when are tax-dodging "foreign" corporations 'citizens'?)

This is NOT about hypocrisy!

Yes it is. Hypocrisy on the right. Mitt Romney raises $100 million in secret donations, many of them in 6 and 7 figure dollar amounts, and that's okay, but when the Obama campaign says it will do the same, suddenly that's wrong?

You guys (on the right) started it, so don't complain. 'Citizens United' was bad law, but your legislators (on the bench) said it was okay, so we're going to do it, too.

What some of the whiners really mean is "it's okay for 'white' politicians like Rmney to have a Super PAC, but not for this 'colored' African guy."

Yes, Super PAC's are legal. Why is MSNBC posting articles that disprove of the presidents decision?

The sad fact is that Super Pacs are becoming too important to a presidential candidate's campaign to ignore. The Republicans are proving Super Pacs are dominant forces in the primaries and it is the height of foolishness to expect President Obama to continue to pretend they are irrelevant. Super Pacs are politically evil forces, but thanks to the Supreme Court and the GOP primary race, they are a solid fixture in the political landscape and they must be treated as such.

Obama is no worse in this regard than Romney or Gingrich, but the teabaggers on this site are squealing and pointing at Obama merely because he tried to buck the trends their favorite candidates have already embraced. Get over it.

Good gosh we are going to look like Chicago before this guy is done, broke and corrupt!

Openings words of the Populist Party platform,

issued July 4, 1892

"We meet in the midst of a nation brought to the verge of moral, political and material ruin....Corruption dominates the ballot box, the [state] legislatures and the Congress and touches even the bench.....The newspapers are largely subsidized or muzzled, public opinion silenced....The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few."

BFD! It is not hypocracy..it is pragmatism period. Like in the "Untouchable", "If they bring a knife you bring a gun, If they bring a gun, you bring a bigger gun". It sucks, but it's the reality of SCOTUS "Citizen's United vs American Democracy" decision!

Community Organizer

That's a favorite epithet of drug-addled college dropouts like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck, who have no idea what it takes to graduate with honors from schools like Columbia and Harvard or the high standards demanded of professors by institutions like the University of Chicago Law School.

What that label really shows is the ignorance and lack of education of the media darlings who use it the most (no point discussing "ditto-heads" who merely repeat what they hear without question).

What we'll hear next is "he wasn't a professor, he was a senior lecturer" from someone who doesn't know what titles the University of Chicago uses for law professors.

But if it's EXPERIENCE you want, Barack Obama and George W. Bush's dad are the only two people in the world with experience as President of the United States who are qualified to run for the office.

In my opinion, Congress should take back some of the airwaves that we citizens own, and let each candidate have a set and equal amount of time for free to advertise their positions. Most of the PAC money goes to tv advertising. Also, Congress could give each candidate a sensible amount of equal franking privileges, so they could mail voters their policies and qualifications. Every major newspaper, as a public service, should give each candidate one full page ad, to give us the info on who they are and what they want to do.

I would like to see actual "free speech" replace "money as free speech" and the media, especially the media that belongs to the body politic, be used to educate us on the candidates. Dramatic and incendiary sound bites and photo ops are not really educational, and they are not really nuanced enough to give us a well-rounded picture of the candidates.

Also, there should be more "stump speeches" where candidates meet the people, instead of the stagey and unconvincing so-called "debates" where they tend to either lie, or contradict each other without evidence to back what they're saying.

Given that this election cycle non of my wish list strategies is available, I am glad that Obama is arming himself with the resources that are needed to get the word out.

And for my little addendum: make sure your Congress persons are working to ammend NDAA so you can't be arrested and detained indefinitely by the military.

Commonsense, I'm just wondering, have You seen a copy of the brilliant ones grades, at any level of school ?

You people are funny. You whine about "Corporate money corrupting our democracy" but your turn in the voting booth you happily vote for someone accepting corporate money or beholden to special interest. Why don't you take some responsibility for your own idiotic actions and stop voting for these people. It's not like they have a gun to your head.

Commonsense, You won't find them, because they aren't there! Then google past presidents and see what comes up. Don't any of You find that unusual ?

Simpleton's think BO has their back, LOL! Don't you think it time to stop drinking the Kool-aid?

Obama taking advantage of legal SuperPACs is no different than Romney taking advantage of legal deductions in the tax code. Or Gingrich legally offering 'historical' advice to Freddie Mac.

Legal does not make it right? Maybe not - but - it sure works well for the 'successful' doesn't it?

It looks like the Republicans are envious of the 'successful' after all ...

So Joel is just another whacked-out conspiracy theorist? Maybe he can come up with a story that ropes in UFOs, bigfoot, and the Kennedy Assassination with Obama. It won't hold any more water than his current BS but it holds the promise of being a little more entertaining.

The loch ness monster can't be far behind...run, Joel!

Mitt still says he would not have helped GM and Chrysler. Success doesn't matter I reckon. His approach historically is to gut the company his firm purchased, make millions and let it rot in his tracks. He pays 15% tax and that's just fine by him. Repeal Obamacare: The Canadian skier who died from her injuries in the USA racked up thousands in medical costs. That could have been financial ruin for her family had it not been for fundraisers, or the fact that in Canada, those bills would have been covered. Mitt and the right want to make sure anyone who can't afford insurance is under threat to lose all in the event of serious illness or injury. Well they're all comfy with their coverage! As Mitt says "he's not worried..."

CHILDREN, please stop fighting and come in out of the rain. YOU are going to get soaked. Oh, I'm sorry. You have already been drenched by the political seed that impregnates, then indoctrinates the mind. When will you ever learn that celibacy and politics are incongruent. America now delivers the best Commanders-In-Chief that MONEY can buy, and she does so at the cost of our birthright, but it didn't come cheap, and the afterbirth will have consequences unfathomable. It cost us everything, including our independence, security, and soverignty, and most significantly, our Godliness. It was "SO" expensive that we had to BORROW the money to pay for the delivery. Eventually, we will all become the proud parents or legal guardians of this abominable offspring, when and if, we ever grow up and subsequently gain wisdom!

Classic Obama. He has a record of saying one thing and doing the opposite and this reversal on super
PACS is just one more of the same old Chicago style politics. We can add this to his vows of transparency and let’s not forget his droning on about how Bush pushing the national debt to 9 trillion was positively irresponsible and un-American. Un-American, that is, until he pushed the national debt to 15.5 trillion and will be at least 16 trillion by election time.

His pattern of deception continues unabated but I think more people are beginning to see this. Consider
for one, the Social Security payroll tax reduction. The simple minded only see that there’s a few more dollars in their paychecks but have no clue as to the impact this will have to their social security payment at retirement.

Let us also not ignore a new fee on Freddie and Fannie backed mortgages he enacted with as little fanfare as possible, This fee is ostensibly for the purpose of offsetting the Social Security payroll tax reduction but will not go for Social Security purposes but be placed in general operating finds.

The end result is Obama gets more money for future entitlement spending which in his mind translates into more votes while deceiving the people with a Social Security payroll tax cut that really screws them at
retirement.

Yep, classic Obama.

@Ron -4064596 -- Romney does not understand how to make things work - he only understands how to make things profitable.

President Obama has actually done this country some good til now and it could of been more had it not been for the people in office that consistantly say "NO" to everything and just care about their party and continiously try to have this man, because he's a black man, voted out of office. Now when I hear McCain's loser speech, I read into it a little more than I did when he gave it, but thats a politician for you, especially a repube lieing through his teeth. Yes sir reese! President Obama has done a lot of work while he's been in office and basically on his own too, no help from the other people in office right now. He's doing good right now and I believe him to continue to do good. He's done more good in his three yrs. in office than the past three repubes and 20yrs of them did. I figure him to win, hands down, no contest even. Sure Mitt will get his votes from the die hards that don't have a clue as to whats going on in the world, but thats not going to be enough for them to even try and fix the polls this year. Yeah, the repubes need to save their money and try to comeback in 16 yrs. to see if maybe then they will have a chance again at winning another election by fixing the machines and the count to where they just might end up pulling a close one off again. Dubya sure screwed the country up and its going to be a long time before people forget about him and vote repube again. Not only did Dubya screw up the country, he screwed up the repube party too, they need to regroup and find a candidate thats going to be able to get the attention of the voters again. Newt, Mitt, Perry and the likes of Palin and Bauchmann will never do it. The good candidates they had this yr. got out of it themselves because of a desease in the republican party that made them realize they weren't looking for a good candidate but another one to continue to destroy the middle class and give them the power they are so continiously seeking in this country. How stupid of them, why they even think it would get that far is beyond my common sense thinking along with the rest of the nations thinking too. Give it up already, start thinking about what you (repubes) can do for the country and not what the country can do for you!

One, it's a losing proposition to always put principle above winning.

That says it all. Repbus and Dems care more about winning then anything else. And you morons defend them for that.

I can't wait to see all your reactions in the future when everything the Government promised you isn't there for you to have.

"But, but, but the government promised me free food, education, internet, health care, and a lovely retirement, what do you mean there isn't any money to pay for it. Lets attack the wealthy, what there isn't any of them left either?"

Bev from Chi-town

And does Obama really think it's a good idea to pick a nasty fight with the nation's 70 million Catholics? Lemme guess, Libs think it's great because Catholics, being Christian, are by definition "right wing nut jobs"???? Proceed at your own peril... Libs already told us last week that they care MORE about abortion than cancer research. Wow. You people sure have your priorities, don't you? Again, proceed at your own peril...

Your guess is wrong. Libs think it's ok to point out that 70% of Catholics take birth control, and to try to slant the issue to the 20% that really care is just politics. Also, Libs told you last week that they care more about cancer prevention than politics (something right-wing nut jobs don't).

Umm, hate to rain on your parade but the resurgence of pent up demand for cars has had a teensy bit to do with the way Detroit has "turned things around."

Fairfax Bill, then why did all you right-wingers claim that 'cash-for-clunkers' only moved demand from one period to the next? It's because your Party will lie right out if you can try to make Democrats look bad. The extreme right-wing Republican Party will say anything to attempt to put down the Democrats. Unfortunately for you, everyone knows that and it's brought your Party to the lowest approval ratings in the history of the world.

At least you stumbled into getting one thing correct: Consumer demand drives sales, not tax cuts for producers. I'm glad we can agree on that issue.

How sad that once again people are too blinded by their party division to step back and see the big picture. Obama IS a hypocrit, on this and many other issues, as well as a proven liar. So what? Most of the Republicans up there and in the spotlight aren't any better, though they may have different faults. And we, as a nation, continue to spew venom back and forth and divide even further instead of joining together to DEMAND real and lasting changes that will save this country. Obama is a nightmare as a president. Romney won't be any better. Party affiliations aside, we as a country, we as a people need to come together and insist on a President that has the qualifications we need: intelligence, wisdom, honesty, integrity to name a few. We will always have presidents who make decisions that you don't agree with, but take a good hard look at the state of this nation and ask if your position on contraception or gay marriage is important enough to risk throwing the country away over for right now? As a people, we are supposed to have a government that works for us. Instead, laws continue to pass to control us and remove our voice. It simply does not matter who started what, what matters is what's going to be done to fix it and who can accomplish that. We've seen little sign that there are many around who can and will step up to it. The worst part? Most people are too consumed with the latest contestant of American Idol or preoccupied eating their crappy take out food to even notice. I'm starting to think we as a people are getting what we deserve, and maybe, just maybe, we'd better take notice and do something.

Take all the money you want, both parties, it won't make a bit of difference how much you spend. The two party system is a joke. Everytime either a Republican or Democrate gets in office something bad happens.

The administration has attacked my for-profit buisness claiming unfair advantage over non-profits. We were expanding two years ago but now with the new laws in place that target only for-profit and not non-profit we are half the size and had to cut jobs.

The administration has allowed citizens to be locked up without a trail, totally unacceptable action from our government that goes against the constitution and should scare the hell out of everyone. At least give them a trail, thats the right thing to do, they could be innocent. What the hell is this the third world. This is an outright crime. This has gone on with both parties.

The taxes are over the moon, you read about another proposed tax on 'violent games'. Is that on top of the 'sin tax'. I wonder what will be attached to the bill by the time it gets to a vote? Was this something that the people were in an outcry for? NO. What do we want. J O B S. Not another tax.

The two party system is a choice of dumb and dumber.

realamericans1st - there is a big difference between street smart, political smart and book smart. Obama has shown us he has little in common with the first, has shown some on the job training with the second and he has stumbled greatly in trying to fit book smart into a viable economic and political avenue.

america- please give some insight, not just qwick wit or slander, the politicians do enough of that for us.

Joe, exactly what good has He done ? Please be specific if You would please.

Obama is a Chicago politican. He is typical of the breed. His 'messianic' status was a creation of the media who were gob-struck with the notion of America's first black president. I thought it was great that Americans were capable of overlooking race and voting for someone of another color than white male. Sadly, the candidate they voted for, with all his bright sparkle and charm, turned out to be nothing more than a pedestrian, run-of-the-mill, typical politican, greedy for power and willing to do whatever to get elected.

His followers developed wilful amnesia during the elections in '08. He lied then and he has continued to lie ever since. Flip-flopping is just another term for outright lies. Transparency? Nope. No lobbyists in my administration? Only a hundred or so. Financial reform? Yup, re-appointed the same crooks who worked for Bush and Clinton, the crooks who got us into this mess. His record for cronyism and pay-backs rivals any republican's and his costs to the country are becoming more obvious every day. Those who still support him do so because they are loyal to an extend never before seen in history.

The political parties are a joke and the elections are a joke, people still believe that the candidate will be the one for 'their' interests, the interests of the country and will not be a self-serving political drone only in it for the power and prestige. Silly citizens, look at who gets the nod, all the candidates are hand-picked by the power brokers and it doesn't matter who finally gets elected, the candidate will serve his masters and his masters aren't American citizens.

Commonsense at 1.108. Here's your race card back. That game's over; people are tired of it and it has hurt Obama. When ignorant people throw around unfounded charges of racism, you reverse much of the gain that has been made. Why don't you be outraged about TRUE racism? As I see it, people like you who make such false statements are worse than a racist and you can't get any lower than that. And, BTW, this is written by a mixed-race person.

If this was truly an issue he cared about or the left cared about, he wouldn't take the money and he would rail against the Republican that did every single chance he got. Then he would promise the American people that he would get the congress to pass a bill that at least limited super pacs. Something simple like you can only donate 10% of your taxable Revenue or Sales.

But he didn't and most of you on the left don't give a crap about it either.

So this is a typical DO AS I SAY NOT AS A DO moment.

Did we not know the batsh*t right wingers would go crazy over this? It's okay for the GOP to try to buy the White House but damn it don't try to fight their money with Democratic money! It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. I'm disappointed President Obama is using PAC money but I understand that he has to fight on a level field. And, as long as the GOP is willing to take PAC money, he has to. Now all you little right wingers, go ahead, let your heads explode!

And to all of you like American Girl (that's questionable) who are denouncing him for doing it, have you complained about all the GOP PAC money? If you haven't you have no right to even comment on President Obama, because that makes you as hypocritical as you're accusing him of being. You DO understand that, right?

President Obama in the State of the Union address given to a joint session of Congress, Supreme Court Justices, and other selected invited guess on January 27, 2010:

Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that’s why I’m urging Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to right this wrong.

It has been noted that Supreme Court Justice Alito was seen shacking his head and mouthing the words "Not True" when this above statement was made by the President. Justice Alito was critized for such actions.

Tired of hearing how the present administration has killed the pipe-line from Canada to Texas? The pipe-line has not been killed. The administration has asked the contractors of the line to find a safer route for the line around the domestic water supply. That's what the good citizens of Nebraska and other mid-western states want and when the safer route is determined the pipe-line will be completed. The contractors have stated that they are in the process of exploring a safer and more desirable route.

yellowdog....

Greetings. You mentioned...

I think the only people who can question, Obama's new stance are those on the left or anyone who believed that Superpacs were a bad idea.

Not entirely true since we are talking political rhetoric and just like all the republican POTUS wannabes have received attacks from FR libs, progressives, etc. Why should obama be different?

With regards to trump or corporations and packs being people as in being recognized by the supreme court, consider the following...

The young lad or lass looking for employment has an "IN" when someone of influence vets them for the position. doesn't matter if they are a trump, a buffet or a gates, etc.

Corporations as a person? Why not? The supreme court recognizes that the first amendment doesn't preclude that it only applies to an individual, rather that any group with a common interest can petition the government. If one looks at taxation policies, businesses are taxed on their income just like an individual, not really hard to draw the conclusion that since a business is looked on as a singular entity with regards to taxes and regulations they can also be viewed as a "person" or "individual".

As for superpacs and potential unlimited campaign funding, look on the bright side we might get some real campaign reform laws out of this.

...and yet again Liberals want to tell us where and how to spend our money. Then when they read the U.S. Constitution and realize they are spinning their collective Socialist wheels, they act as if they invented it.

Oops "mygirl1" not American Girl.

Fiesty -- Have you been drinking again????

Let me ask this........... IF Obama is doing the phenominal job of running this country as I read from his avid followers here almost daily singing his praises amd chanting his name, then why does he need to spend ANY money, much less dollar for dollar to the lowly republicans who don't have a prayer to win?

Are you telling me that you think the Presidency of the United States can actually be bought???

Sanity, he doesn't want a level playing field. If he did he would have used public financing as he promised to do last election and had a level playing field with McCain. He then went back on what he said when he realized how much money he could get above the R's without public financing.

It was a shame to see him do that, but a lot of politicians are no better and would have done the same. Unless public funding is mandated there will always be high paid lawyers to find ways around most any laws we could pass to curb vote buying.

We have the best political system money can buy.

BigATC - not true. He is playing the same game as the GOP with PAC's. That makes it a level playing field.

TXHorseman

Because, and I am coining W on this one,...'“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” (May 24, 2005).....' So, yeah,...when your side will lie and then repeat it, over and over - a Mythbuster must be employed - to counteract the damage of Republican lies. Granted, there isn't enough money in the world to cleanse us of ALL of the Republican Lies; but we can at least take on the most egregious ones, eh?

Here's some food for thought for everybody: Liberals live in the kingdom of the blind, being not blind but deaf themselves and then consider themselves superior to those around them. Not to be outdone though, consider this: Conservatives are pretenders to a throne of values, holding themselves on the high horse that is actually a donkey.

If this makes sense to you, don't vote for Obama or the Republican nominee in 2012. Vote someone independent and call for the removal of all incumbent Senators and Representatives. The only way to enact real change in this country is to go against the grain that this so-called "two party system" has set up and show both the Dems and Repubs that they ARE answerable to the people of the United States of America still.

I think the only people who can question, Obama's new stance are those on the left or anyone who believed that Superpacs were a bad idea.

Completely not true, everybody that stand behind their values can question him.

If somebody says they are pro-life but then has an abortion because it easier or because they it isn't against the law is a hypocrite, just like

If somebody whines and complains about super pacs and says how bad they are over and over again, but then accepts their money is a hypocrite.

If you have a set of beliefs you don't give a rats ass what others do, unless of course you are a liberal or a politician.

FYI - this isn't a Repub vs. Dem argument this is an argument about what you believe to be right and wrong and by the way most on here defend him, most believe selling your beliefs for a short term gain is more important than standing behind what you believe in.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

Clara, I once lived in KCMO. Actually worked in KC and lived in Grain Valley. Nice area, too much snow.

I am going to have to say BS. Sorry, enough lies to go around for both sides. That is what politics seems to mean. Besides, money won't stop the lies. It may even bolster them.

Since when does creating a new word, or phrase, change the meaning or intent of something, it's still hard to pick up a turd by the clean end. Just because you have or can raise more money only in debts you to more companies or people.

Leave it to a Lib to preach one thing and turn around to do another, it is the way the Lib’s are and it always has been.

The first job of power is to keep power. Second job is to get more power.

>"Since when does creating a new word, or phrase, change the meaning or intent of something, it's still hard to pick up a turd by the clean end."

I laughed, I cried, I laughed....!!! Thanks!! Just when I think I have heard it all..!!

Joel 989... is so upset it's going to be a level playing field that he's now just talking nonsense. (Okay, he always talks nonsense!) Let' see the President's grades; etc. Because you can become head of Harvard Law Review if you're not smart - according to Joel. But, according to Joel any nonsense that comes out of his mouth should be taken for fact - nothing anyone with a brain is going to do. Please Joel, go make up some more lies so we can have a good laugh.

To the rest of you - unless you're appalled by the GOP PAC's - you've got no right to complain about Obama taking PAC support! Such hypocrites!

Bill 1488 and the GOP has become just plain filth over the past 10 years. Yep - just filth!

IF Obama is doing the phenominal job of running this country as I read from his avid followers here almost daily singing his praises amd chanting his name, then why does he need to spend ANY money, much less dollar for dollar to the lowly republicans who don't have a prayer to win?

Are you telling me that you think the Presidency of the United States can actually be bought???

Yes, in large part, because why did Gingrich go form a 20% lead in Iowa to a 11.2% loser, and how did Romney go from a 20% lead in S. Carolina to a 12.6% loser, and how did Gingrich go from about even in Florida, to a 14.5% loss? It was because there are enough gullible people out there to sway people 180 degrees. I have no clue as to why people would change their minds so quickly, based on a barrage of 30 second attack ads, one speech, or one radio talking-head, but it happens every election.

fortyniner...

If you were replying to me, think about the following...

Street smart and political smarts implies that one knows how to play the other side to get what you want. Denigrading the opposition will harden their stance, not soften it. A potus is expected to know how to lead, not follow. Interesting on how obama couldn't find the time for a WH sitdown with the congressional minority leaders until 2010.

Book smart says that one has read the text and can pass the exam, but if you can't apply it in either a macro or micro environment what good is it? Think about obamas handling of the recommendations his debt commission and corporate job creation board made and how he ignored them as he digressed on his own. He even ignored the advice rahm emmanual gave him on moving forward with healthcare legislation.

As for "on the job training" wasn't obama the junior senator from illinois being elected in 2004?

Simple solution, but probably too simple given all the carping from both sides on this issue:

Any political party fielding a candidate is, ipso facto, a PAC. Therefore, be it resolved that there shall be one and only one PAC permitted to do fundraising in any form, in any instance, which PAC shall be that political party fielding a candidate. One and only one. Period. End of sentence.

A recognized PAC shall be one fielding a candidate(s) in a(n) election(s), be it Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Green, Martian Jesuit (Reformed), or whatever. Period. End of sentence.

All monetary donations to a particular PAC shall be limited to donations by individuals only and to a prescribed maximum amount only, not to be exceeded, and shall be a fully disclosed matter of public record. Period. End of sentence.

All donations collected by that PAC shall be spent only as regards the candidate(s) that PAC had running in any particular election(s) and may not be comingled with the funds of any other existing PAC. Period. End of sentence.

Simple enough?

Hey, obumbo is getting real desparate. Since he has no accomplishments he is gonna need all the help he can get.

So we have a POTUS who is a hypocrite, has no principals, and by his own words is a leadership failure, and a threat to our democracy.

Speaking against raising the debt ceiling on March 20, 2006, then Sen. Obama said "The fact that we're here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means 'The buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit."

Speaking on super PACs on Oct 15, 2010 President Obama said "They don't have the courage to stand up and disclose their identities," and "They could be insurance companies or Wall Street banks or even foreign-owned corporations. We will not know because there's no disclosure. But this isn't just a threat to the Democrats: It's a threat to our democracy."

Not sure why Republicans are upset with this. They are voting for Romney... he has flip-flopped on every single issue, and they still vote for him.

Obviously, Republicans like flip-floppers... that is who they vote for.

So, logically speaking, they should like Obama more now.

"Flip-flop, flip-flop" through Chicago. The sound of the president as he walks. He doesn't know up from down.

The Nation is feeling your effects. What a disappointment that WE elected.

Indie, very valid point and that is why quite a few are moving towards Paul or anybody besides Newt or Mit.

I see three things.

1. Who cares. None of this will impact the average US voter... you would need to be employeed for this to impact you.

2. The bipartisan just makes me laugh. So dumb the only cure is a hammer.

3. One side labeling this as a victory and the other as a defeat? Really? Haven't seen any real news on this except negative press for Obama

I guess any press is good press huh? I wonder when they will run the article where The Big O cut three strokes off his handicap on the golf course? To the only President that makes Jimmy Carter and W Bush look smart. Cheers!

In 2008, Obama challenged McCain to accept public money.

McCain agreed.

Then Obama changed course and said he needed the private money to win

His adoring fans were too busy feeling the tingle in thier leg to care.

Here we are again. He chastised the SCOTUS on national TV over Citizens United.

Now he's going to take the money.

He is only consistent in his inability to be consistent.

And yes, this is the definition of hypocrisy.

I expect no less from him.

At times we all get frustrated and discouraged by the process. Whether you stand for or against any issue, it is a roller coaster.

The biggest danger we face, is to continue to expand the power of Corporations and Special Interest. Does anybody realize that a US Corporation can be owned by the Chinese Government, a Saudi King, or the Iranian Ayatollah, even when naming a US CEO who defends the interest of the Corporation? This Corporation is allowed to recruit Congressmen through Lobbyist, to defend their interest regardless of the well-being or interest of We The People. Call it seat belt or helmet laws, drugs or FDA approved against alternatives, medicines that don't cure only get you hooked for life. A bankruptcy law written by the banks, a Patriot Act that could incarcerate any whistle blower indefinitely. Can you change cable, phone, or any utility company without moving? Deregulation is usually always aimed at allowing what was there to protect a standard. There are no big donors behind any Consumer Protection Groups or paid lobbyist to represent us.

Many if not most, of the legislation that comes out of Congress usually benefits a industry or group of companies, regardless of the interest of We The People or the spirit of our Constitution. These companies will brainwash us all, defending that there benefit is in our best interest. Mean while little by little they keep chipping away our choices, freedoms, rights, and with them our future.

It seems at times that our White House and Congress are tainted. No doubt they get there with good intentions which are usually trumped, with power, money, and reality. People change, are bought and sold, and that is Politics, the science of possibilities.

Bill, Fairfax VA: “Obama jumps on the Super PAC bandwagon that he had previously castigated as a THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY, you just can't spin your way out of that blatant hypocrisy.”

-SCOTUS determined it legal. Obama thinks it’s a threat to the democracy (because it is), however, the bigger threat is letting the Republicans win this election simply because they can and are pumping more and more money into their campaigns. Thus, we have to fight fire with fire. Doesn’t mean it isn’t still a threat to our democracy. And Obama choosing to utilize this tool doesn’t mean he is advocating for it or giving it legitimacy.

AND another thing: I think it's ridiculous that all these rich people/corporations (oh right, they're the same thing....) that whine about paying a higher tax rate, will sit here and throw money into this nasty fight just to talk crap and plug up the airwaves with negativity. This country needs positive messages and tangible results. Millions of dollars spent to TALK about fixing the economy....instead of fixing the economy. And yes, that goes for both sides. It's pretty pathetic. They'll spend money for a candidate to win, but not for the country to win.

BILL FAIRFAX when you put on your big boy pants you understand that bringing a snowball to a gun fight is stupid ..you may not agree with something to use it .. Obama just did what the other side does ...he threw away the snowball and got a gun .. it is his 2nd amendment right .. the justices on the supreme court that gave these siper pacs guns .. should be impeached for violateing there oath of office ..where in they swear to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemys ..Domestic and Foreign.... giveing foreign governments the right to buy elections in this country is nothing short of treason

Stivirino good post

It's not about utilizing superpacs jim

It's about spending a year demonizing superpacs, calling them evil, calling them a threat to democracy.

It's about chastising the SCOTUS live on nation TV over Citizens United.

And then turning around and holding out his hand for the money.

That is the very definition of hypocrisy.

And you want to talk about violating your oath to uphold The Constitution?

Obama extended and expanded the patriot act. He signed into law the NDAA. I could go on and on here.

Obama is a hypocrite and a fraud, by his own actions.

Sorry you don't like that, but it's true.

Alil - everything the far right does is hypocritical but you have no problem with that. Your post says more about you than it does about our President and nothing it says is good!

Republican show over and over again they have no integrity. It is the party of "we can do it but you can't." Pathetic group all the way around.

All is fair in love and war!!

Republican voting OBAMA 2012.

You claim to be seeking sanity, but you are not.

You are ASSUMING. I suspect others before me have broken down this word for you.

What makes you think I'm a Republican?

What makes you think I don't point out hypocrisy when a republican does it?

Because I dare to speak out about the things Obama has done that are just flat out WRONG?

Maybe to find sanity, you should examine politicians OBJECTIVELY

Sadly, I don't think you have that ability.

As far as the tired old argument "the other side did it too", that argument is specious and weak. Ask your Mother, she knows.

Two wrongs DON'T make a right.

Two wrongs don't make a right...

Except when a wrong is used repeatedly as an excuse. The blame Bush mantra has been used adnauseum as a excuse to cover for Obama's misuses of power and lying. His loyal followers make excuses constantly for his action, they are the greatest rationalizers in the history of the planet. If Obama goes around congress to bomb the crap out of another country, why, he's a humanitarian. Bush, doing the same thing EXCEPT he got congressional approval, is a baby-killer.

What this exposes is how disingenuous, willfully blind and ill-informed the Obama supporters truly are. His current about-face re the PAC money is a perfect case in point. He chastised the republicans for months, ditto the Supreme Court, climbed on his high horse about said money while amassing the largest campaign war-chest in the history of the country and now he is OK with grabbing all that money. He chastised the republicans during the 08 elections. Hell, he lied before he was even elected and his loyal supporters will make excuses for that, he didn't really mean it when he said he would use public monies for his election. His supporters are always accepting the intolerable, always making excuses and, essentially, they behave in manner similar to a woman married to a man who abuses her. Rather than leaving, they continue in the relationship and make endless excuses for their man.

Alil Common Sense # 1.172

"Two wrongs do not make a right", as you say, but they sure do even the score.

Some folks just can't handle an even playing field.

Greentimer, Obama could have had a level playing field in 08 when he challenged McCain to take public money, and McCain agreed.

Obama went for the money then, just as he is doing now. Obama went back on his word, Obama, the democrat. NOT McCain, the republican.

So please don't tell me Obama with his Billion dollar campaign fund, even BEFORE any pac money, wants a level playing field.

His actions make that an obvious lie.

Maybe when he stands under the Bank Of America logo at bank of america stadium in Charlotte, when the lobbyist look down over thier champagne glasses from the luxury boxes that only cost a million dollars "donation", maybe then you will start to see what he is.

Sadly, I doubt it.

You are right that it is folks don't want an even playing field - the opponents of Obama on Newsvine want the added boost of SuperPac money for their guys that should not be allowed for dems.

Lots of luck selling the concept that only those that agree with the idea of SuperPacs shouild be allowed to use them. I think that balls hit out of the park (in fair territory) should be ruled ground rule doubles, but as long as they are ruled HomeRuns, I'll play them as such.

It's the HYPOCRISY that I have a problem with, greentimer, and you can't spin or rationalize that away, try as you might.

It is the double standard that I can't stand. While the right says Obama is a hypocrite for doing what they do ten time over, some say well that is different somehow. I hope Obama brings in ten times more than what the Repubs bring in just to show what jerks they are. If you are going to throw the stones, you better clean up your own house first. Obama did not want to use PAC money this time but to compete in the Republican dirty tricks world, he must even the playing field. This is how the Repubs do it sports so get used to be bettered at your own game.

Excellent point Mygirl! I could care less if Obama uses a SuperPAC or not...more power to him. The point is he should really just keep his mouth shut...to stand there and criticize the very thing you are adopting just makes you look pitiful. And I know now what I'm getting Obama for Christmas...yes...a pair of flip flops!

Isn't that the GOP's argument about Romney's tax rate?

"He's just playing by the rules. If you don't like them, change them."

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Wow! It's almost like Obama promising to use public financing (and its restrictions) for his 2008 campaign and then reversing course when it became obvious that breaking that promise helped his campaign. No...no...it's not ALMOST like that, it's EXACTLY like that.

"Isn't that the GOP's argument about Romney's tax rate?" - RealAmericansFirst

Did Romney make a stand and publicly denounce lower tax rates vowing to pay a higher rate only to then reverse course and pay a lower rate??? No. This just shows what Obama's shown all along...that his -- like many other liberals' -- principles are fungible.

This just shows what Obama's shown all along...that his...like many other liberals'-principles are fungible.

Fungible? Hell, they're non-existant. But then, we are speaking of a politican.

Flippity Flop

Flippity Flop

Obama has no principles!

Flippity Flop

Flippity Flop

We attack others for this but not our prince!

Dude would kill his own mother to get reelected. Face it, he's a Tyrant.

Openings words of the Populist Party platform,

issued July 4, 1892

"We meet in the midst of a nation brought to the verge of moral, political and material ruin....Corruption dominates the ballot box, the [state] legislatures and the Congress and touches even the bench.....The newspapers are largely subsidized or muzzled, public opinion silenced....The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few."

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."

- John Adams

Reading this reminds me of the time I almost got in a fight with this guy who threw something at my car. I pulled over got out of my car and was walking toward him, when he pulled brass knuckles out of his back pocket. So I opened my trunk and got my Louisville slugger. He started whining about how I was a p*$$y as he was getting back in his car.

Great piece IR......the war that is being raged on the poor and the working poor is outrageous. These families lives are so hard as they struggle to hold their families together, the worries of that alone, must at times be overwhelming. Trying to feed growing children, nourish them and keep them healthy, as we know there is sometimes little or no medical assistance if they become ill. These are all assaults on the human condition, why can't we help our citizens or maybe the question should be why do we not want to.

Excellent information, IR. The GOP really is heartless. 1 in 5 children lives in poverty, doesn't have enough food at times and yet, the right will gladly pull the safety net from beneath them. This is further proof that Mitt Romney's words describe republicans, they are "not concerned about the very poor". In fact, they will do everything in their power to punish the poor and protect the 1% from paying one more dime. While the rich dine on lobster and champagne; the poor fight for bread and the GOP would deny even that.

Good Morning IR,

Good information that clearly shows what the GOP has been up to for so long.

Another home run, IR. The Republicans are hoping the poor children will self deport.

It's the hate America first crowd IR, they would have you believe that greed is good and then tote out the bible without regard to that commandment. So when Obama uses their rules against them he's a hypocrite this is one of the problems with the ABO crowd so I say look into the mirror first don't be afraid well maybe...snark

My grandmother used to say there is a special place in hell for those who abuse children and animals,...letting poor children suffer is akin to abuse in my book.

Who will lobby for the least among us?

I'm not at all surprised. The Republican agenda is to make the middle class poor and then to let poor suffer and die. This fits directly into that agenda. "I'm not concerned at all about the very poor" is a statement that every Republican could easily make without batting an eye.

@Damaged,

Ruin education? Cutting the budget for public education has ruined education for thousands upon thousands of children.

yes damage and you are perfect example of poor education. you have opened your mouth repeatedly and proved your ignorance not to mention your absurd hatred. While I defend your right to free speech I question your obsessiveness. Do try and have a good day and chill some get involved in a charity or something...Later

The problem is you cannot truly understand the plight of the very poor amongst you have lived among them. Reading the post of some on this site would make it sound as if their having the time of their lives. Oh, if only povert were that much fun.

Jody, so keeping people poor isn't heartless?

Just about every government program is completely stopped once you start making a little too much money. So most poor folks decide to no better themselves for fear of losing free money.

FYI - there is no such thing as poor, only mentally challenged, lazy and people temporarily down on their luck.

If you aren't mentally challenged or temporarily down on your luck, what does that make you?

Akeem, where did you live among the poor? Hati? or some 3rd world country?

Because I give plamsa with some of the poorest folks in MN and let me tell you most are stuck on some government program that there is very little chance they will ever get off because they will lose their section 8 housing if they decide to get a real job.

But hey if you are cool with keeping people poor so they vote the correct way, you shouldn't have any problem sleeping at night.

IR - you and many FR lefties harp on how the right want to reject tax increases on the wealthy (2%), perhaps obama and all the members of the left (including yourself) should start promoting raising taxes on the 98%. You and your fellow supporters would have something to talk about if the right went along with raising their (the 98%) taxes but not the 2%

Bet everyone loves how the 2 month payroll taxcut is being paid for. For the next decade every homeowner who takes out a mortgage or refinances through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the FHA will be paying thousands in increased loan fees for that 2 month "payroll taxcut", worth $160 to the average employee. The end cost to a homeowner, will be about $3,863 on a $200k mortgage or $6,246 on a $300k mortgage.

Oh no another flip-flop.

get the fockin illegals out of America, where they are stealing jobs from poor Americans! Let them suck off the Govt teat wherever the hell they snuck in from....lord people, boofrikkinhoo...they don't belong here to begin with so git em the hell out.

And the Republicans ALWAYS vent their spleen on children, IR. They go after WIC, Headstart, locally, school funding.

It is appalling.

Newday- When children aren't learning in the public schools, it makes sense to try a new approach, right? Since the liberal approach of creating new departments and agencies and throwing more and more money at the problem, hasn't seemed to work, maybe that means that THOSE things are the WRONG approach.

Anytime Repubs talk about getting in there to fix the education system through means other than the tried and FAILED liberal means, you people start screaming that they HATE THE CHILDREN. Aside from the fact that you people have a mental illness known as "Liberalism", you need to step aside and try new ways. You libs are so regressive. Be progressive.

Gingerbread, the republican outrage is hollow and makes them sound even more pathetic and ridiculous than usual. What a bunch of whining hypocrits--it's fine for their side to accept Super PAC money but President Obama can't.

NDD.... always the innocent and the defenceless. Such brave and courageous people. Classic examples of bullies.

Absolutely, GBM. And they take such pride in their bullying.

Well said. It's time, and I'm glad that the President can now do a little bullying against this radical right.

Glad to see you people feel that unions, special interest groups, lawyers and so-called "rights groups" and the entire Democrat Party are "innocent and defenseless".

Maybe some liberals will criticize the President's Super PAC decision but this liberal is shouting HOORAY. I am glad that the President's team just watched the Republicans spend $16 million in Florida, with over 90% on negative ads---all against members of their OWN party. He should stand by while they do worse to him?

Damage they are trying a new approach in Dallas where nearly a dozen schools will close. The students will be integrated into other far off schools. How they get there will the the parents problem. What isn't considered is how the community fabric will be affected deterimentally. By the way this is happening in already depressed, underdeveloped areas. Nothing happens in a vacuum, the closings will further promote decay to these neighborhoods. Who wants to live in an area without schools? What business can survive without a populace?

Hundreds of parents wanted to save their schools, but they were not heard. Urban decay continues. Unfortunately this is but one story that is being played throughout the state, thanks to GOP policies.

Oh well at least the school district saved their money, didn't have to throw any away - snark.

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The Dallas school district has proposed closing 11 schools over the next two years in what would be the largest campus reorganization in the district’s history.

The closures, which must be approved by the board of trustees, could save the district nearly $11.5 million.

Dallas ISD has struggled for years with dozens of campuses with low student enrollment, and officials say they must now consolidate to help trim a $38 million state-funding cut in next school year’s budget.

“This is going to be very emotional because no one wants their school in their neighborhood shut down. But it’s very expensive to keep these schools open when they are underutilized,” board member Nancy Bingham said Thursday as the trustees reviewed the proposal.

The 11 schools are scattered throughout the district, but most are in southern Dallas, particularly in depressed areas where families have moved out.

Damaged:

When children aren't learning in the public schools, it makes sense to try a new approach, right?

So, the approach most advanced by the right is to cut funding for education. The right-dominated state I live in has reduced education funding by nearly 40% in the last 5 years, in part because Federal money is drying up. So, the schools fail faster, allowing the Right to declare public education a failure, so they can cut even more.

Oh, I almost forgot, let's attack and eliminate the teacher's unions, too, since we can't have them speaking up for the working educators.

The ultimate goal of the right is to eliminate public education so they can give the tax money to private and faith-based schools.

People like you automatically think AMOUNT OF $$$ = QUALITY. You're wrong. That's why you love taxes so much.

"They'll never tax you on what they need, they'll tax you for everything they can get then find a "need" for it...

Ronald Reagan

Gingerbread Mamma

I think you chose the right posting name, since you appear to be living in fairy tale land. The war is against people who are successful and who work to make their and their children's lives better. The war is against those who do not and will not depend on the government to take care of them. The hand outs have gotten all the way up to everyone has to have a cell phone and still there is this fantasy of people who have not food because of the mean Republicans. No, often it is because mom and/or dad if he happens to be around trade the food stamps for drugs. Get real. The providing for the poor has led to an entitled society within our society that has become unsustainable. The balance between people earning money and the people taking money has swung too far. When democrats talk about "entitlements" and lump in Social Security and Medicare I want to scream. The "entitlements" that people never paid a dime for and think they are entitled to is what is destroying our economy. The last straw was the give away of houses to the "poor". That is exactly what brought us here. Even when our economy has been brought to its knees by this Socialist entitled thinking, every day honest people with little themselves are making drives to provide for those that need help. So quit the bull crap about a "war on the poor" unless you think expecting people to try to help themselves is wrong.

Guesswhat:

Pawlenty and the Republicans cut funding to our rural schools in MN so deeply that they have had to go to four day weeks. Can't afford to be open for 5. Lots of education hours gone.

Really, Shaking?

I suppose you are equally outraged at all the corporate welfare? Don't give me the class warfare card about the rich. They have done extremely well and continue to rape this nation with the collusion of the criminal Roberts Supreme Court, the Robber Barons, and the Republican party.

now the Unions and labor that mandated their membership to pay contributions to Obama can cover this up in thre Super Pac. That, plus jeffrey from GE will no longer have to cover his donations. Great move Pres. You now can take the graft directly and no one will know where it came from! Much easier than before!

Gee, Damage, and that's why taxes went up how many times during St. Ronnies reigh? Y'know...St. Ronnie, Patron Saint of Fools...

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

These words are inscribed on the Statue of Liberty.

Shaking et al, it is not socialist entitlement, it is the doctrine of this country. Plus it is the right thing to do as a caring people. Some of us still believe this.

Keep on 'shaking your head' it prevents one from seeing what is a growing problem. We give huge breaks to corporations and individuals who have the wherewithal to take advantage of every loophole their puppets in Congress have given to them, resulting in these people closing factories and plants and taking the jobs overseas and their huge profits to offshore accounts.

These so called citizens, who would fly the flag of patriotism every chance they get are not concerned there are no jobs for those left behind, what's left to fill the void. Take a ride down through the South see what closing all those textile factories has done to towns and their inhabitants, most of the small businesses who once provided services are now closed, gone because the population has no money, no jobs and worse no prospects. You are delusional if you think when people lose their jobs, there is another one waiting for them. How are these people to survive? The GOP/Tp are so heartless, they never look at the results of these happenings. Yet people like you support them, makes me wonder why you hate your fellow Americans, people need help at various times in their lives, and we as a country are delinquent in our humanity to ignore so much suffering. Shame on you for being so selfish and uncaring.

Feldon - I notice that it doesn't say that the government will give them handouts or a minimum standard of living. Can you point out the text in the inscription that says this?

THE PERPETUAL MOTION MACINE:

The Perpetual Motion Machine, the contraption that has eluded the most-brilliant minds through-out history has finally been invented in Washington DC. Here how it works:

1. Huge, wealthy, corporations and billionaires, the ones who pay little or no taxes give money to lobbyists . Many of these lobbyists were once members of Congress. In fact, some were drinking buddies.

2. The next step is for the lobbyists to make contributions to our elected officials "Political Campaign Funds." These funds now have a fancy name and are call "Super Pac."

3. The next step for these Representatives " Of The People And By The People" is to introduce leglistation which favor their benefactors. You know, the wealthy corporations and the richest 1%.

4. Then the process repeats itself. One, two, and three - One two and three.

Everyone in DC gets rich and live happly-every-after in their new fancy lobbyists offices on K Street. Stop in for a visit with your x-congressman

Starving the Beast ensures only the wealthy and elite can afford to run and then live on those wages while they control the works of their own agendas and benefactors. When they talk about Starving that Beast, you seem to forget that it’s “We the People” who is that “Beast” that they want to starve!

Oh please, quit with the hyperbole. In today's world, the 'poor' are the working poor. They don't get all the goodies like welfare, free medical, free rent, etc. While everyone is bemoaning the plight of the poor, perhaps they should look at the taxes taken from those who work, monies which is then given to people so they don't have to work.

Pat- Yo mama.

"What's frustrated people is that I have not been able to force Congress to implement every aspect of what I said in 2008. Well, you know, it turns out that our founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes."

And he was a Senator too and didn't know this? This is why there will never be a dictatorship. He had his way for two years and the people spoke in 2010. I guess he didn't get the message.

Good post Damage...................

damage the best part of you ran down Yo mama's leg.

Yeah. That's sux, doesn't it Hussein? Those pesky Founding Fathers and their damn Constitution.

Yeah, it's just a shame that President Obama didn't have a Congressional majority to rubber stamp pass all the legislation that he wanted the way President Bush did.

Bravo Damage!

Da Noid :

Really?... President Obama didn't have a Congressional majority? Are you just making statements with blatant lies out of ignorance or simply because you have a good echo chamber here that'll just let it go by?

Obama was ushered into office with big majorities in Congress. For two periods of time... he even had a fillibuster proof majority in the Senate. Even today, there is still the Democrat majority in the Senate, which will carry to the end of his first term. So precisely how has he not had a Congressional majority?

Perhaps... had Obama not acted like Janus and adjusted his stances from the onset of his term to be middle of the road, while not playing a role in antogonizing his political opponents and frothing around with the idea that ... we don't need the Republicans to pass our legislation... that perhaps, just perhaps Obama wouldn't be as such a divisive figure.

It's one thing to rail against obstruction and the GOP, it's another thing to rail against after stating you didn't need them and then treating them like the bastard child at Christmas. Obama has made his bed, and it is a far cry from the likes of Reagan or Clinton who were able to find common ground and compromise.

Lmao.....Damage you made poor pat pee her panties! Such a gurlie gurl!

Damage123,

Your comments are pure opinionated speculation. I'll tell you what: Speculate this;

Obama's policies to repair the broken economy Republicans ran into the ground from 2000-2008 costs were $987 billion after Bush ran the national deficit to $5 trillion from ZERO left by Clinton after line item veto of Newts HR 2014 on 8-11-97 within provisions 15-34 halting Coporate tax cuts.......When have you ever heard of costs for repair to fix anything broken being free??? case closed.......

great post!

President Obama didn't have a Congressional majority? Are you just making statements with blatant lies out of ignorance or simply because you have a good echo chamber here that'll just let it go by?

I am fully aware that the President had a majority in both the House and Senate. Please read my statement in full context.

President Bush had a Congressional majority that merrily danced along to The Pied Piper's tune.

President Obama did not.

There was not a filibuster proof majority in the Senate!

I'll repeat this again, just for you and all the others that continue with the Senate Super Majority lie. Here are the facts for you about "control" of the Senate. A party majority does not give you control when it comes to the Senate rules of filibuster. Every bill must have 60 votes to pass.

President Obama spoke about collective amnesia and rightly so. Apparently, there is an epidemic of selective amnesia concerning the 2009 and 2010 Senate "Super Majority".

For those who persist in the Senate Super majority lie of the 111th Congress and the continuing obstruction of the 112th Congress. So, how did anything get passed?( ie. Healthcare Reform, unemployment benefit extensions, payroll tax cuts) Ah, that dirty word -compromise. Even then and today, every bill needed votes from the Independents, Blue dog Dems and Republicans.

No matter how many times you repeat that Super Majority lie it is still a lie. Did everyone forget the Blue Dog Dems (ie. Evan Bayh, Nelson,etc?) In fact, they never had a Democratic Senate super majority because of Blue dog Dems & Leiberman(I. Conn), just another pissed off Independent that consistently votes with the Republicans even though he will caucus with the Dems. He backed McCain, didn't he?

There was never a "Senate Super Majority". The GOP/TP has set a historical record for the number of filibusters in this administration and it still continues to obstruct any bills to move us forward.

The Senate Super majority myth

January 3, 2009 - 111th Congress sworn in. 55 Democrats, 41 Republicans, 2 Independents, 2 vacant.

January 15, 2009 - Roland Burris sworn in to Barack Obama's seat. 56 Democrats, 41 Republicans, 2 Independents, 2 vacant.

April 30, 2009 – Arlen Specter changes parties. 57 Democrats, 40 Republicans, 2 Independents, 1 vacant.

July 7, 2009 – Al Franken seated. 58 Democrats, 40 Republicans, 2 Independents.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE DEMOCRATS HAD A SHOT AT A
60-VOTE MAJORITY AND STILL NEEDED BOTH INDEPENDENTS.

August 25, 2009 – Teddy Kennedy dies. Kennedy had missed 97% of the votes in 2009 and over 90% in the last half of 2008. 57 Democrats, 40 Republicans, 2 Independents, 1 vacant.

September 25, 2009 – Paul Kirk appointed to Teddy Kennedy's seat. 58 Democrats, 40 Republicans, 2 Independents.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THE DEMOCRATS HAD A SHOT AT A 60-VOTE MAJORITY AND STILL NEEDED THE INDEPENDENTS.

February 4, 2010 – Scott Brown sworn in to replace Paul Kirk. 57 Democrats, 41 Republicans, 2 Independents.

June 28, 2010 – Robert Byrd dies. Byrd had missed over 90% of the votes in 2010 and almost 50% in 2009 due to illness. 56 Democrats, 41 Republicans, 2 Independents, 1 vacant.

November 29, 2010 - Mark Kirk sworn in to replace Roland Burris. 56 Democrats, 42 Republicans, 2 Independents.

Super-majority? It never existed because even during
two periods when Teddy Kennedy and/or Robert Byrd were unable to vote they still needed to get the votes of every Democrat plus BOTH independents.

FACT: The "Democrat Senate Super Majority" is a G.O.P. lie.

FACT: The GOP used every roadblock, filibuster, and secret hold they could think of so that EVERY bill had to have a 60-vote margin for closure.

Da Noid :

I read yours, and understood it fully and in context. Perhaps you should give my statements another read.

I even went as far as to detail character/governing differences between Obama and Bush, and despite complaints about Bush, he is or was far more moderate than the current lot of Republicans in Congress today. It's been written about since the onset of Obama's fall in public polling that he and the Democrats mistook the 2008 elections as a sign of Americans supporting far-left agenda... in reality, Americans were simply looking for not-Bush.

The greatness of a leader is found in that leader's ability to pull people together to accomplish a goal. Your statements betray you and reveal that Obama is a piss-poor leader. And apparently... since Bush was able to get things accomplished, often with a level of bipartisan support... Bush by this category is a better leader.

I suppose it is worth noting that I am neither Republican nor Democrat and find both of these parties policies to be terrible in the field of foreign policy and economics.

Either you're an emotional idiot, or you simply didn't look at the man's facial expression. If Obama was sincerely bashing the constitution, then it'd be all over the internet.

Cynthia's point, outstanding research!

Sadly, the right wing will continue to ignore the facts because the facts don't support their narrative.

But the truth will eventually win out. Because it is the truth.

Thanks again.

Cynthia's Point :

Sure, when you look at things by "party" the Democrats only ever had 58 seats in the Senate. But when you pull your head out of your butt... and take a look at where your two independents "caucus"... well then your very long comment becomes an act of futility.

Bernie Sanders is a self described socialist Democrat and has virtually always sided with the Democrats since his days in the House.

Lieberman was a Democrat... and flipped independent, but was allowed to keep his seniority and committee seats in an agreement with Democrats... to still be a Democrat and caucus with them.

So... what's this make for us? Oh yeah... that fillibuster proof majority in the Senate for two short spans. So... stretch... reach... make whatever attempt you need to justify it for yourself, the voting record and caucusing easily usurps it.

And lets say you can't swallow it... the point still remains that Obama had big fat majorities in Congress.

I love Cynthia's Point's research. The only thing missing is the legislative recesses the entire month of August and 10 days in September plus the October/November Recess of over two weeks. The DAYS of Legislative possibility were less than 60, if I recall.

But we DID get Healthcare,...and that steams the Republican buns to NO END! lol

Yes Clara... it's far more important to figure out how to snake legislation through Congress despite Obama inferring that he wanted Scott Brown to have a chance to weigh in and vote on the legislation. Strike that team Obama... we pulled every trick in the book to avoid it going back to the Senate.

Oh... and how about that, passing legislation that our Representatives did not read or even understand. Oh and how about striking that campaign promise of letting Americans get a chance to read the legislation and weigh in on it online? Oh... and how about the transparency and airing those backroom deals? Yeah...

Don't worry about it Clara... it is much more important to pass controversial legislation by any means possible, along party lines... and in fact with bipartisan opposition in the House... than it is to actually craft legislation that works and makes sense.

After all... what other legislation can we point to that adversely affects 70% of Americans to the benefit of 10-15% of the population?

Circle the wagons tight... Clara... the hypocrisy and outright "wrong" of that legislation and the means by which it was crafted and passed is going to be a tough fight.

obama as much as stated that if it were not for the Constitution, he could get his agenda thru.... What we need to do is get this communist out of office and put him to work for Rahm Emanuel in Chicago where he can go back in the ghetto and be a community agitator. Obama really should be in jail for his marxist actions, and he does not belong on the streets with real American people. He should be at least in the zoo somewhere. I have never in my life seen a more arrogant disrespectful muslim in my life. At least he should be glad to be in this country instead of constantly running it down.... Both him and his racist wife show nothing but disrespect for the American flag, and its about time he is called on his socialism, and frank disregard for this country.. If he loves the muslim call for prayer so much then by golly get your ass outta here and go live where you were born in Kenya.....

ratpoison you are about as DELUSIONAL as they come.

How does the irrational fear of the boogeyman thing work out for you each night as you obsessively check under the bed, then the closet, then the bed, then the closet...

ALONG PARTY LINES is the way the game has been played since the Supremes appointed W in 2000. Get used to it.

cynthia - you will make the same arguments when the republicans have the same senate numbers as the democrats right?

To bad you don't argue the point on why the democrats couldn't get some minimal form of republican support or vice versa. If the lefties want to cry about this, maybe it is time for them to get out of the way or resign.

Actually, I would vote for Democratic resignations .... starting in the oval office !

jim-1455434 - and we will vote for GOP resignations across the board!!! Pretty sure we'll get a few - well not resignations but we'll get the seats!!!

Clara :

What an astoundingly empty comment you have conjured as a retort. You've neither countered, nor addressed any of the sarcastically punctuated points previously made. I suppose that given this lack of substance that I was much closer to the mark than I would have guessed... so are we to take this non-reply as a sign that you're all about the government doing things for one group while trampling down on another? Your all about the government and more precisely... politicians backing off of what they promised just because it isn't in their favor?

I would guess so considering the context of the article and the nature of your other comments.

Call me crazy... call me scared and afraid of the boogeyman... call me delusional if you must... but when somebody tells me they are going to do something... I expect it, and when they fail to deliver, I hope that I am at least satisfied by their effort. And when they don't even bother... or worse yet, go in the opposite direction... then there needs to be punishment, criticism, etc. (Gitmo, Patriot Act, Wars, transparency, etc ~ all Obama reversals).

From where I sit Clara... your party loyalty and partisan desires is the root cause of your hypocrisy and delusion.

Way to lay it on the line, ideology, somehow I doubt that you will get a response! ; )

Don't hold your breath Ideology, the name 'Steve' on this blog doesn't have a good record.

... time to walk Jack ... back in 30

Ideology, Bravo! Well said. You have joined the ranks of liberal posters on FR, myself included, who have been accused of plagiarism despite the lack of proof and the inability to find anything that substantiates their claims.

Ideology and Jody, yes being accused of plagiarism is such an insult to one's integrity without proof, is so maddening. I have had it happen to me too and you have to vociferously fight back.

Those who make these accusations are not capable of thinking and writing anything original, making it hard for them to envision anyone else being able to express themselves as well as you two.

Bravo, ideology. Seems to me the plagiarism accusations are kind of like the voter fraud accusations----they accuse others of doing what they themselves would be perfectly comfortable doing, not recognizing that most people have more integrity than that.

Way to go, ideology! Nice "call-out!"

crickets, I hear crickets ... we have in Montreal an Insectarium where one can dine on a variety of chocolate covered bugs ... the ants are nice and crunchy and a good starter for the main course of crickets ... of course in this left wing bastion we only coat conservative crickets in chocolate and use their wee legs as toothpicks. Yummy stuff and I have never come across a cricket with balls.

Rather ironic that ideo brings up plagiarism accusations and a certain poster who is guilty of accusing Jody & GM *pops* in today...

Kind of weird if you ask me...

And we know to ask you...your the resident "ball" specialist! Whether is a "gag" or a "azzslapper"!

Feisty glad you caught that too, it is weird, he hasn't been on here in a while hm-m-m makes one wonder.

poor jollyoldsoul1 an erudite illiterate ... otherwise known as the spawn of an ox and a moron ... an abomination in the eye of the Lordess.