It is this very talk, this negativity, that turns most voters away. Romney is campaigning on distortions and distraction.

He is distracting from his biggest weakness -- his own plans and policies. Look them up.

Tax breaks for those that don't need it and tax increases on many that are struggling.

Do You Believe in Miracles?

I saw this tweet over at the Obama Diary and if these figures are accurate, then I think it's truly truly fantastic:

Detroit jobless rate was as high as 16.6 percent in July 2009. Now it’s 9.7 percent.

I also saw a sign someone was holding that said this about Fox News:

The rich pay the rich to get the middle class to blame the poor.

As far as Karl Rove's statement about the Clint Eastwood ad -

Karl Rove is a despicable person and always was. For this man to talk about that ad as being Chicago politics is a disgrace to all those who are back to work after years of HIS policies bringing our country to the absolute brink of disaster.

The Republican Party is not rooting for America. They are rooting for failure. The rest of us stand shoulder to shoulder with those in Michigan and elsewhere who have suffered for too long and have quietly, with nothing less than hard work and determination, shown the rest of the country what the American worker is all about - success.

There is no room for negativity in their lives. We'll leave that to the GOP. The rest of us in America will have each other's back.

Great ad by Clint. Great ad. Made me proud.

Great ad by Clint. Great ad. Made me proud.

Clint 'made my day'!

Hope you had a nice weekend, Pat!

Sorry about your Patriots, I was rootin for em!

Am I wrong? I do believe Clint Eastwood was against the auto industry bailout.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/06/chrysler-eastwood-idUSL2E8D6HCC20120206

Romney wants it so bad he can taste it, he's so close he can feel it, he's desperate, he'll say anything, do anything because more than anything he wants to be President.

Not for us, for himself. Not for the people, for his own ego. Romney made his millions stepping on little people like us, and celebrating on $10,000 bottles of champaign, and he can't wait for more $10,000 bottles of champaign to flow, in the oval office, yucking it up with Fat Cats ready make more millions shipping American Jobs overseas, liquidating American Businesses, and passing legislation reducing the minimum wage back down to $5 an hour and reducing tax rates for billionaires to down to zero.

I would NOT trust this desperate ego-maniac as far as I could throw him.

Obama / Biden 2012

Thanks Feisty. Great season of football, albiet a strange season as I look back. The Giant fans were ready to boot Coughlin and Eli out of town mid season. And here they are - Champs!

Strange strange season. Didn't think we looked good against the Ravens, so I was a little concerned going into the game. Needless to say, lots of sad faces.

I did love Clint's ad. Made my night.

What a shock! This is news? By the way I think the reaction to the Eastwood ad is a very good indicator of how desperate the anti-Obama forces have become. Psychologists might refer to this as projection. It is also indicative of their native paranoia. They take something entirely innocent (such as the ad) and demonize it as they project their inner fears and insecurities toward it. I now believe Obama will win re-election.

ideologyspoilstheview: I don't know if Clint was against helping the auto industry or not. I would be curious to know if that's true.

AmericanGirl: Romney doesn't believe in miracles. He doesn't believe in anyone or anything except bragging about how rich he is. The nation doesn't care. They're too busy just trying to keep working for a living.

Someone said the other day - it's not that Romney can't connect with us - it's that we can't connect with him. I think that says it all. He truly has no core principles. None.

Did ya' here Kennedy rapend an intern?

Ideo you are correct, Eastwood was against the bailouts. Actually all bailouts, banks, cars whatever. He says he is a social progressive but a fiscal concervative. I don't think he personally had an agenda when making the ad.

Plus I'm sure he got paid. The ad hit with mixed reviews here. Personally, I would have rather seen some of Chryslers great cars they have coming out. They caught lighting in a bottle with Eminem, this one just seemed to me to miss the mark a bit

BTW we had some sad news here last week. Mark Howe, Gordies son reported that Gordie is suffering from early dementia and would be cutting way back on his public appearances.

Loved Gordie Howe. The Gordie Howe hat trick?

A goal, an assist and a fight!

Plus I'm sure he got paid

He was, and Clint promptly turned around and donated it to charity!

Did ya' here Kennedy rapend an intern?

Only in the small mind of a RWNJ would you equate consensual sex to rape!

*grasp meet straw* lol

WCA ... having agreed with me, you may have damned me ... yikes

Gordie was a big loveable cheat, he had a slit in his glove that he could poke his hand through and so was rarely called for holding.

Oh dear, sorry to hear this news about Gordie Howe.

Reality Check-1104333

Did ya' here Kennedy rapend an intern?

Did ya here ya cun't shpell?

Hope I didn't get you in trouble ideo.

Gordies wife Colleen died from dementia in 2009. Gordie's is still in the early stages. He is 83.

He has been a spokesman for several dementia fundraisers. They say he will continue to support the fundraisers as long as he can.

No one like #9.

No one like #9. ... or Bobby Orr

Amen to that.

Oh ideo, you're singing my song, Bobbie Orr, I was at the Boston Garden, the first time he appeared there. He was a thing of beauty to behold, I can still see #4 racing down the ice, what a sight.

I dont often agree with WCA, but Gordie Howe was a special player. Another of my favorites was Blackhawk, Bobbie Hull. Good times and great memories.

Another of my favorites was Blackhawk, Bobbie Hull

I was at the game with my Dad when Bobby scored his 500th goal! ;o)

Romney -- You run again and again but never win. That's because you don't deserve a term at all. (You hit the nail on the head again Feisty.)

American Girl-724855 -- The reason Romney has yet to talk about why voters should vote FOR him is because this is what he'd have to say: "Vote for me because I really want to be President." Sorry Mitt, that's not a compelling reason, not any reason at all.

As regards the Detroit jobless rate going down, so does the population as people abandon the city of Detroit and go elsewhere to find a chance to work. Those numbers are so misleading as a result of the exodus that it is laughable to quote them.

Standards? When did this man develop standards? Have I missed something? I don't know where he stands on any issue. Half the time he flies the flag upside down.

Yooo Hoo Boob - where did you go little buddy?

What happen to phine? Anyone?

BTW, I was talking about the white guy.

thetotas, She has been around.

Probably taking a break, I don't blame her.

it would appear that phine "unfriended" Feisty Redhead, so Feisty ripped into her. Called her the usual names and Told her to pull up her panties.

Real classy stuff.

Guess Feisty redhead doesn't like being "Unfriended"

thetotas

She's still around.....

And yes, it was a bit under the top so to speak....

WCA,

I am still around. Super busy day. Cat sat on laptop last night and wiped out almost everything on it. (Imagine that was how Feisty got unfriended, but hey, after all her kind words, we can just leave it that way)

Have you ever tried to get kitty treat crumbs out of a laptop? Not pretty.

PS Also baked a homemade peach pie. Just the right kind of day for it.

Ideology,

Standards? When did this man develop standards? Have I missed something? I don't know where he stands on any issue. Half the time he flies the flag upside down.

Now you have me confused? Which one? ;-0)

Cat sat on laptop last night and wiped out almost everything on it.

Oh dear - still sticking to that lame ass story are ya?

Here's the deal darling, updating you profile does NOT wipe out your friends list (not to mention you managed to somehow save a *selected* few). There is an entirely different module for managing your 'friends'...

In other words - EPIC FAIL with your convulated excuse!

What's the next excuse?

The dog ate your homework? lol

wow what a loser to cry over such a trivial thing. my virtual friends abandoned me. BOO HOO... Mark they aren't my friends. tick tock tick tock. Looks like Bozo needs to find a new Cookie replacement LMFAO @ YOU!!!

ideologyspoilstheview

BTW, I was talking about the white guy.

Well at least we can agree on this, But when the president on 60 minutes equates himself as the fourth greatest president in history within the middle of his first and so far only term, Makes me believe that he might have a problem with standards also.

Historical standards that is....

You know, I really don't care what you think, Feisty. I know what happened. You weren't here. End of story.

Egilman & Ideology,

I just don't think Romney has one position on anything. He feels entitled and will do whatever it takes to get it. (Kinda of like Eric Cantor - I want what I want and I want it now)

Egilman ... thus the rational for autobiography. Get there before the historians do!

Hi Phine, we don't always agree on politics, but unlike carrot top, your arguments are civil and aren't anything like the bitter and abusive retorts of the cut and paste truck stop troll of Roselle....

Um? Am I in a laundry room? I post buck naked for all to see. Knickers are not to be knotted.

Ideology,

You are not! You are the star of stage, screen and FR!!!! (How's that for sucking up) LOL

BTW, aren't all the GOP candidates pushing a book?

cat fight, meoooooooooooooooooooow

...cut and paste truck stop troll of Roselle....

clever Mark, can I use it?

Obama's chat last night seemed like the words of a desperate nacissist! "I deserve a second term".... well so far he hasn't EARNED anything! "I'm getting better as time goes on...", lol this isn't on the job training like he went thru as a neighborhood organizer! Is the guy in denial, is his ego so massive that he thinks that will resonate with the independents? I don't think so...!

And today it's announced that he wants to set aside $5-10 billion for mortgage relief? Yikes, hasn't someone told him that in a few months he's going to beg Congress for another $trillion or so to pay the interest on our debt? This sounds more like he's giving the money to the banks who hold those mortgages to cover the interest shortfall on future loan modifications.... why not use the money (we can't afford anyway) to reduce the principles of those folks with upside down loans... maybe that will work better, eh?

I see this as just another election year ploy..... very transparent and doomed to fail....

I'm happy that Romney is focusing more on Obama's faults than negative ads against the other candidates....

Steve,

if I remember right the debt ceiling will be raised without the Congress voting on it. It was part of the debt deal last summer. It will raised until after the 2012 elections.

i also thought the mortgage relief was to help homeowners refiance their mortgages to a lower rate in spite of the reduced value of their home and not having loan value to home value ratio. It is for folks who have been current on their mortgages and can qualify for the PITI.

But if you know something more current please give me a link to the article.

Who let the collapse cowards out?

The more the voters learn about Romney, the less they like him. Turn-out of Republicans is down compared to 2008, and Romney got even less votes in Nevada than he did in 2008. The funniest thing is Trump is taking credit for it - Hahahaha!

SteveH USA -- ...Romney is focusing more on Obama's faults than negative ads against the other candidates...

WTF?

Buck Naked Sr, we get it. Your goal is to get so many reports against your posts that the entire thread will be collapsed. That's not going to work with me. I'm happy to leave your posts there for all to see how a typical right-winger is such a douche-bag.

Maybe he could do a duet with Roseanne Barr, they both have such a wonderful ear for music, hheheee

It would seem that the vultures are anxious to pick the carcass of the candidates that they fear most at the moment which is why one might get a pass over another when it comes to vitrulent criticisms.

Also, when will Willard do a set down interview with any of the other networks besides FOX?

That my dear, is the $57K per day question! ;o)

how is that IL debt clock looking? YICKS!

Why would it matter what he makes a day? He pays taxes on that right? How about the 45% that don't pay anything? I would focus on people not paying than a person that is. Better yet the 36 people in Obama's circle that owes back taxes. Where's the story on MSNBC on that?

chilled here is Mitts policies, all 59 of them....

1. Maintain current tax rates on personal income,
2. Maintain current tax rates on interest, dividends, and capital gains,
3. Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains,
4. Eliminate the death tax,
5. Pursue a conservative overhaul of the tax system over the long term that includes lower, flatter rates on a broader base,
6. Reduce corporate income tax rate to 25 percent,
7. Pursue transition from “worldwide” to “territorial” system for corporate taxation,
8. Repeal Obamacare,
9. Repeal Dodd-Frank and replace with streamlined, modern regulatory framework,
10. Amend Sarbanes-Oxley to relieve mid-size companies from onerous requirements,
11. Ensure that environmental laws properly account for cost in regulatory process,
12. Provide multi-year lead times before companies must come into compliance with onerous new environmental regulations,
13. Initiate review and elimination of all Obama-era regulations that unduly burden the economy,
14. Impose a regulatory cap of zero dollars on all federal agencies,
15. Require congressional approval of all new “major” regulations,
16. Reform legal liability system to prevent spurious litigation,
17. Implement agreements with Colombia, Panama, and South Korea,
18. Reinstate the president’s Trade Promotion Authority,
19. Complete negotiations for the Trans-Pacific Partnership,
20. Pursue new trade agreements with nations committed to free enterprise and open markets,
21. Create the Reagan Economic Zone,
22. Increase CBP resources to prevent the illegal entry of goods into our market,
23. Increase USTR resources to pursue and support litigation against unfair trade practices,
24. Use unilateral and multilateral punitive measures to deter unfair Chinese practices,
25. Designate China a currency manipulator and impose countervailing duties,
26. Discontinue U.S. government procurement from China until China commits to GPA,
27. Establish fixed timetables for all resource development approvals,
28. Create one-stop shop to streamline permitting process for approval of common activities,
29. Implement fast-track procedures for companies with established safety records to conduct pre-approved activities in pre-approved areas,
30. Amend Clean Air Act to exclude carbon dioxide from its purview,
31. Expand NRC capabilities for approval of additional nuclear reactor designs,
32. Streamline NRC processes to ensure that licensing decisions for reactors on or adjacent to approved sites, using approved designs, are complete within two years,
33. Conduct comprehensive survey of America’s energy reserves,
34. Open America’s energy reserves for development,
35. Expand opportunities for U.S. resource developers to forge partnerships with neighboring countries,
36. Support construction of pipelines to bring Canadian oil to the United States,
37. Prevent overregulation of shale gas development and extraction,
38 Concentrate alternative energy funding on basic research,
39. Utilize long-term, apolitical funding mechanisms like ARPA-E for basic research,
40. Appoint to the NLRB experienced individuals with respect for the rule of law,
41. Amend NLRA to explicitly protect the right of business owners to allocate their capital as they see fit,
42. Amend NLRA to guarantee the secret ballot in every union certification election,
43. Amend NLRA to guarantee that all pre-election campaigns last at least one month,
44. Support states in pursuing Right-to-Work laws,
45. Prohibit the use for political purposes of funds automatically deducted from worker paychecks,
46. Reverse executive orders issued by President Obama that tilt the playing field toward organized labor,
47. Eliminate redundancy in federal retraining programs by consolidating programs and funding streams, centering as much activity as possible in a single agency,
48. Give states authority to manage retraining programs by block granting federal funds,
49. Facilitate the creation of Personal Reemployment Accounts,
50. Encourage greater private sector involvement in retraining programs,
51. Raise visa caps for highly skilled workers,
52. Grant permanent residency to eligible graduates with advanced degrees in math, science, and engineering,
53. Immediately cut non-security discretionary spending by 5 percent,
54. Reform and restructure Medicaid as block grant to states,
55. Align wages and benefits of government workers with market rates,
56. Reduce federal workforce by 10 percent via attrition,
57. Cap federal spending at 20 percent of GDP,
58. Undertake fundamental restructuring of government programs and services,
59. Pursue a Balanced Budget Amendment.

Seems like he has a few more than that...... (I'm sure you do not like a lot of them, neither do I)

OOPs there goes the "safety net"

Yikes, Egilman! Mittens will be a busy camper if he ever (NOT) reaches the Presidency. No doubt as President he would 'destroy' all branches and as CIC, walk away with millions after he aligns wages!

a la free market/vulture capitalism.

55. Align wages and benefits of government workers with market rates,

..You're right, I don't like them.

After reading the list posted about the 59 policies, or the agenda, goals of the candidate, I as somebody who is middle class am wondering what is to dislike??? The income, the capital gains, dividend taxation issues seem to relate only those who earn less than 200K per year (certainly not a special boon to the 1%) Making sure that government workers get the same salaries for the same work and the same benefits as the rest of labor in America sounds superior to me.....I have never understood why my tax dollars as a secretary should pay for another secretary who happens to work for government to have a higher salary and benefits for the exact same type and amount of work as I. The fact that those of us who don't work for a union based company or shop would have the chance to have our salaries and benefits for the same work be more equitable...to stop losing jobs overseas because of unions driving salaries up and up.....If you bothered to type it, hopefully, you bothered to read it....If you are one of the working class, what is not to like?????

Nicely put Allen. Romney just sits in the bleachers booing. He doesn't have to step up to the plate like the President does, like the American worker does - Romney just sits back and boos those who are actually out there trying to heal our Nation.

Steeler Fan: Amen to that.

I'm glad my money was wasted on GM. You know that GM stocks has to reach $53 a share for the American tax payer to break even? Do you honestly think that will happen? I hope it does, but not holding my breathe.

When you have a leader says he "deserves" instead of "earned", there's a major problem with that leader.

Do you remember what happened in the 80's with Chrysler? Did the government save them?

Actually, yes, the government did aid Chrysler in the early 80's, but those loans, and they were loans with interest, were paid back in full with full interestin approximately 5 years. What dragged Chrysler down the tubes again was the questionable and somewhat fraudulent partnership with Mercedes Benz. Mercedes promised and entre' to the European marketplace for Chrysler products-predominantly mini vans that could translate to the European model and also assist Chrysler with upgrading its comfort and luxury features. Mercedes supposedly wanted the utility and 4WD technology from Jeep and Dodge to adapt to the European marketplace....sounded great in theory, but Mercedes came in with a load of undisclosed bad debt overseas that literally wiped out the Chrysler surplusses and then some. Chrysler couldn't even leverage Mercedes out. Once Mercedes was on a solid footing again with its initial European markets, it left Chrysler high and dry (Very Vampiristic) An American company got totally screwed over by foreign investment and partnership....and you wonder why we are all so up in arms about owing our arms, legs and lungs to the Chinese government????

ideo,

Who is deleted? Are you talking about phine?

thetotas,

I am here. Had a very busy day. Not to worry.

Good, you bring some balance here.

Phew!

Relax, kiddo! Everything's okay!

Relax? No problem.

glad to hear it phine! glad to hear it!

Neither does President Obama....he hasn't missed meals or educational opportunities. And he is able to witness his daughter's accomplishments, so that is certainly not a fair measure of any candidate.

It was. Some of these folks live in such a bubble, they have no clue how the rest live. I always like the deer in the headlight look they get when asked about the price of milk and/or bread.

phine,

That's how I look when I get my total at the grocery store. Inflation anyone?

Would have loved having some of the "bubble people" with me earlier today when I took some of the neighbors to the store ... they could have seen three older ladies figuring out how they could split the price of a loaf of bread and some bologna 3 ways.

TOG,

Living in an area with so many retired folks, alas, I see that way too often.

thetotas,

I have started shopping a lot at local markets. Getting more bang for my buck.

I have started shopping a lot in the local markets also. Getting more buck for my bang. (I just wish all the trees would get the hell outta the way)

When was the last time the First Lady or the President went grocery shopping with actual cash to buy milk and bread? Can we please not exclude all those in power as being out of touch with the working person's day to day life.

That says it all very clearly Bill. The embarrassed left has no reply

who is saying to impeach him? I say just vote him out!

jc - America voted Obama into office as POTUS. To say America is racist is a lie.

You know, many of President Obama's policies and failures to deliver on promises are quite similar to those of Bill Clinton and I wonder if those same European detractors complained that we were racist in condemning Bill Clinton.

My response to the Europeans: The jobs created are not equitable with the ones lost...Within this thread, several people have alluded to having to work multiple jobs in order to barely get by...Workers are working more hours for less money and less benefits. The Europeans have more vacation time than Americans and always have. They also have socialized health care, so they have no idea what rank and file Americans pay for their health care among those who do still pay for it.

The American Constitution makes clear the criteria for being elected as our president, and it is the right of every citizen to request proof that the criteria has been followed-that is not racist, that is being a concerned voter and concerned about our constitutional protections. Freedom of speech further protects our rights to be vocal about our disagreement with the current administration. Not everyone voted for Obama, and we shouldn't have to give up all our principles and ethics and morals, just to prove we aren't racist.

The issue of compelling birth control measures, morning after pills, abortions on institutions that have their origins in a religious belief system that says these things are immoral and then forcing the institutions by financial leveraging to either capitulate or be forced out of existence, legislated into obscurity is certainly not an issue of race, but rather an issue of the core beliefs of people regarding human existence, and what it means to be a person deserving of protection from society.

The issue of his birth, his school records, the fact that there are social security numbers (multiple) being bandied about and ascribed to one person (who under our laws cannot have more than one) is not a racist issue either. We haven't asked who his parents were, but rather what was their status at his birth and were they legally able by virtue of their American citizenship to confer upon him natural American citizenship, a requirement for being President. There have been a number of extremely esteemed and qualified people in the history of our country rendered ineligible to serve as president by virtue of not being native born.

Our President rode to election promising transparency in government, yet he refuses to let all these rumors be laid to rest by producing the required documents, but at the same time, all the other candidates out there are being compelled to submit all their personal information to public scrutiny, and ridicule in these threads.

Perhaps the world looks on in disbelief (something that I have a hard time accepting as universal) because they are so jaded to politicians and leaders being corrupt that they simply cannot understand why the American people don't just suck it up, roll over, and accept it in our own politicians.

Our president has done a good deal to alienate alot of our long term allies with social, political faux pas, plain rudeness and arrogance. Noting that somebody is rude, arrogant, egotistical are all personality traits and not ascribable to racial background.

I really don't care if the Europeans think that the behavior of Americans is scandalous....their economies are actually in worse shape than ours. Perhaps they would be better served to watch their own political parties and elected officials as closely as they like to watch ours.