Deflect, Brian! Deflect! For the love of God, deflect!

You numba ten, pete.

Brianb,

Funny that you can't even spell hypocrisy, even though it totally defines you.

JH, If you didn't have racist hatred to spew you wouldn't have anything to say.

1/20/2013 - the end of an error

JH - you're a little late with that slogan, son.

It was all over the place in 2008 - accompanying Bush countdown clocks. (And it was funny then, because that's how Bush said "era" - get it? no?)

But thank you for reminding us how we got where we are today.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana

So now we'll Willie Horton the chinese! Scare tactics using racial stereotypes are so very American.

But people who use stereotypes betray their intellectual deficits. It proves they know very little about the world and the many different cultures in it. That an adult with an education would approve of such an offensive ad says so much about the kind of person Hoekstra is.

Brianb - it's obvious that a lot of the right doesn't get the whole "race" thing. They don't understand at all why anyone would be offended by them calling the President a Kenyan or sending chain mails of him dressed up as a witch doctor or repeatedly questioning his American-ness even though he was obviously born in Hawaii. Or by having an ad with a Chinese person speaking broken English praising a Democratic Congresswoman. Or for saying that they'll help the Latino community by eating tacos.

Too bad for you.

It really is time to get the neo-cons out of office. This country is a hell of a lot better than they depict it to be. They came into power through lies and corporate funds in 2010. People need to wake up and speak up and vote the @!$%#s like Hoekstra out.

[...you will find out that what I say is 100% valid.]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/valid

BAAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHWHAAAAA....and then you woke up...

I don't believe these ads are racist...merely tasteless. Racism means somebody is dissing on someone else based on their race alone. This ad would have been racist were Debbie Stabenow Asian. Since she's white, I see no connection.

The tasteless part comes from his taking an obviously educated Chinese woman and supplanting broken English in her part. Does he seriously believe those who vote for him are dumb enough to believe a woman with almost no detectible accent doesn't know how to drop simple pronouns in her diction?

I also don't get into the playground name calling. He is a buffoon.

[Because I tell one of my Mexican workers to go eat a taco doesn't mean I hate them...]

...yeabut...

...yeabut...

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Funny how racists claim their not racist but everybody else is ...then prove just how racist they are in their very next post..and then complain about the race card being played all the while playing the poor victim of liberalism card...

A bigot someone who thinks their civil rights are being violated if they can't violate the the civil rights of others

and somebody from above saying all this race BS just happened in the last three years ....how disgustingly silly can the right be ....

yes. this is racist.

To..Kevin """

When did republicans ever start worrying about spending ....

BlueBurner you seem to forget that Willie Horton was a Democrats ad first, long before any Republican candidate had been selected for the Mass. Govenor race. Democrats play race all the time, just remember the constant refrain from Dr. Goebbels wannabes that any disagreement with President Obama is racism. I didn't like Bush when he was white, why would I like him when he is black?

Sorry kevin, we are trying to save it, takes a long time and a lot of money to clean up the elephant poop, especially when not everyone who came with the circus left town. Not sure how you think fair working conditions, fair pay, and a clean environment mean we are destroying our country's and kids future, sounds to me like we are trying to save it. Save it from the 1% who could care less about the rest of us - especially those of us who work for a living - and yes, I do work for a living, every day, up at 4:45, on the road to work, back home about 5:30pm. Put in over 40 hours a week (some I don't even claim to my employer for to get paid because working people were just raised that way), pay all my bills and TAXES on time because my Christianity demands it, and am married to my one and only (for both of us) spouse for over 33 years, because we love each other and also because our Christianity demand it. you neocons don't have any common sense to share with us or anyone else, all you can do is hope the rest of us will keep working to make the rich richer, and yes, it is class warfare, and yes, we are getting a little tired of keeping the rich up.

Its almostr scary how small the conversations came become. Brian B obviously doesn't understand racism. To say go eat a taco to your Mexican workers is stereotyping based on race; racism. Please don't argue that point.

Because I tell one of my Mexican workers to go eat a taco doesn't mean I hate them... nor do they take it as such.

Did one of them tell you that? Ignorance is not a defense. Why not say go eat a steak. Because the deep seeded racist sees the skin and your comments reflect that.

This is not to say that you are a bad person. I don't know you. But your insensitivity to the things that come out your mouth/mind suggest that you really don't understand. And instead of trying to learn by listening, you become defensive and argumentative.

Look If you tell me that I hurt your feelings, It would be sad for me to argue otherwise

If I would have seen it I probably would have complained. Both are ridiculous.

Brianb

Racism is hatred. Because I tell one of my Mexican workers to go eat a taco doesn't mean I hate them... nor do they take it as such. This society has become way too sensitive to the silliest things... and it's not all racism. We are people... we not only make mistakes, we joke. And so what if each of us holds our own personal prejudices? You hold them... your next door neighbor holds them... I hold them... as long as I'm not out trying to kill someone, or cause a fight, there is nothing wrong with each of us being who we are... Being other is being fake.

Actually, racism is a lot more about ignorance than hatred. Much of the racism expressed by slaveholders was not because they hated the African-American slaves, but because they actually believed them to be less than human and unable to function without the assistance of their white masters.

It's also true that a mature person can recognize that statements they make may be disrespectful or hurtful to others and refrain from expressing those feelings. You may feel that you are just "being who you are", but if "who you are ain't so pretty, maybe it's better to hide those feeling, re-evaluate yourself and work on becoming a better person.

[Brian B obviously doesn't understand racism. To say go eat a taco to your Mexican workers is stereotyping based on race; racism. Please don't argue that point.]

...yeabut...yeabut...yeabut...you will find out that what I [Brianb] say is 100% valid.

...c'mon, guys!!! It's all ball bearings these days!

Funny, many Republican politicians not only try to prey on, but actively promote the fear and hatred of certain ethnic groups, minorities, religions, foreigners. Many people call that 'race baiting'.

Then when others call them on it, Republican backers call the remonstrations 'race baiting' in the hopes that the average voter is too dumb to tell the difference.

Sadly enough, they might be right.

The woman is stunning ... can I please be outsourced? I hope she is an atheist!

The Democratic Party is racism hiding behind a mask of benevolence.

Can't we all just get a bong........err........I mean, a long?

(Mock crying)

Clasic liberal disparagement tactics... claim racial bigotry where none really exists... marginalize anyone whose opinion differs from theirs, then start the name calling game, and the insults. Racist! Bigot! Dumb Teabagger!
What a bunch of losers.. Fisty Redhead, always the 1st to climb aboard... Idiots galore!

So, to put this in perspective: I don't expect to see any Blacks, hispanics or other people of color in any ads by democrats... and if they speak, it better not be with an accent... Got it Libs?

Teabaggers lost their right to cry "race baiting" when Herman Cain played the "race card" and none of them condemned him for it. Only the ignorant followers of Grand Wizard Limbaugh would be silly enough to do something blatantly racist and have as their only defense when called on it "Yer playing thuh RACE CARD!!!"...like that is, in any way, a defense for their actions.

Apparently the klan has given up the white sheets of anonymity and replaced them with names followed by lots-of-numbers. Brian - you can pretend that telling a hispanic to go eat a taco is not racist and I will pretend that people that think like you live in a trailor with a toilet in a seperate structure in the "back yard"... typing slow so that they can use the other hand to scratch their only tooth.

Defending racism by screaming "You called me a racist!!" is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

Racist really? You libs wont ever stop crying about stupid bs. Maybe our country wont be shambles if your party worried as much about the country as they do trying to show repub racism. Like straight out lies are any better. After 3 years Im still hoping for some change. In my pocket or on the senate floor. Last feb. all you libs were bitching saying "where's the jobs at repubs" a month after they took the house and now that we are seeing afew its all Obama. Wake up.

The ad actually refers to No1 problem in US economy: free trade with China. Too bad neither the teabaggers nor the Democrats will do anything about it - both parties are wholly owned by international capital.

Here again we get to see it...racists using the term "playing the race card". Will they ever learn? This is the single easiest way to spot the closet racists.

Maybe it's a good thing. Ever since Obama got elected, the racists have been out in the open, self-identifying. They have themselves worked up into such a tizzy that they can't control themselves. Their ugliness is out there for all to see. Look at Skeeter's post above and some of the other hate-filled venom vomited all over this vine. This is your right wing America. How do you like it?

Tony obviously you do not have a problem with this ad because you expect all Chinese to speak with broken english...THAT in itself is racist....The dialect of this woman is telling us she speaks PERFECT english, and the FACT she isnt speaking that way is obviously scripted....Hoekstra could have just have it said what he believes, but NO, he chose to prey on sheeple like YOU to continue the hatred of the Chinese for doing what America is asking of them....Do you actually think that Bush's administration wasnt borrowing from China?

I will also say history wasnt your best subject in school, IF you were not stoned or drunk all the time, because the FACT is to get out of a depression, and we ARE in a depression, the government must SPEND out of one...It doesnt magically just end....Remember or KNOW that Obama didnt create this, Bush did....ONE WORD...SURPLUS....What Bush had when he took office

Try not being a sheeple all of your life

KSte, tell us exactly what the GOP has done to create jobs, since you claim it was them that is reason for the recent job increase.....Ill be waiting

skeeter, we know WHO you swallow

Caligula, hate filled venom? Think about the above post. It represents many problems in the country today, yet you guys keep proving to me again and again, you only see what you want to see. That is why this country is down the tubes.

Example: My comment collapsed. Feisty's dumb fux logo keeps flying. Is it racist to ignore the white side of the president?

Who do I swallow? I swallow no-one. I think for myself and don't follow a party line. Independent for me.

The truth must really hurt....She was not lying....P-C is what wrong

skeeter your post represents NOTHING but racism, PERIOD...

saying that Obama doesnt talk about his white side is absolutely UNEQUIVOCALLY NOT true...even mentioning he is mixed is racist..WE ALL KNOW HIS MOM WAS WHITE....

your racism is so intrenched you are blinded by it

you claim to be independant..ok, lets say you are REGISTERED independant...

that does NOT take away your racism, which by all accounts is the GOP way

What's funnier than this article?

The @!$%#in idiots who come to argue in the comments section

The deflection here is the accusation of racism. I think you're the racist here, being so offended by a chinese lady talking to you through your TV. The real issue is that the dem's are spending too much, borrowing too much and making the Chinese economy stronger. One day we will be answering to China if we are not carful.

San Fran Dan. The new flavor mentions the nuts and flakes surrounding the ice cream. Thanks for proving my point.

Amazing....one insulting "teabagger" post after another and I take up just a line or two to remind the holier-than-thous about last year's Democrat television ad showing a Republican legislator shoving an elderly woman in a wheelchair off a cliff....and my post gets wiped off the map.

You folks seem to give it but you can't take it.

Roanoke1 - Obviously you don't remember that George BUsh actually screwed up our country. He started 2 wars and the greatest economic crisis in our country's history, so bashing Bush was justified. Please justify bashing Obama before he had even taken office! The Tea Party started in as soon as he was elected, not after they saw the effects of his policies. George Bush was bashed because he PROVED to be the worst president in the history of our country, not because he was republican or white.

Please stop oversimplifying it ("You bashed Bush, so we bash Obama"). Have you forgotten that Democrats stood behind Bush and supported him after 911, and he screwed the whole country up. Republicans never gave Obama a chance.

Dan- Please tell me what the Dems have done to take the credit? Im not giving either side any credit. I was simply pointing out what I read on all this posts a year ago. I do know most libs have a short memory. Unless it the phase "Bush's fault". The fact is dems had two years to pass anything they wanted and they failed to tackle major issue's like spending and others because they wouldn't be able to blame anybody if it was all their bill.

skeeter thank you for reinforcing my statement about you

Tony, you're so angry, bud! Did Hannity the Manatee and the Coultergeist get under your skin again?

Nothing like when Hitlary Clinton (yes I know how i spelled it) was down south saying (we come to far...) or goof ball John K. went into a store down south asking something to the effect...i need to get me a huntin license. or sen. byrd from Virginia, he was with the KKK! NEED I GO ON??

KSte, i think you should actually do a little learning about how our government works....The Dems did NOT have a super majority at any time, so the GOP using A RECORD NUMBER OF FILIBUSTERS, block any and all legislation they could...its a miracle that the heathcare law passed...Do you know how a filibuster works?

do you know what a super majority is?

by your statements Im guessing no on both.....

Had the Dems had a super majority, the amount of things they would have passed would make people like you and most of the GOP heads explode...

but alas, they didnt

I wonder if these remarks are racist?

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking."

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly."

“He’s married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn’t want to be black.”

“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? … Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

“I don’t care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day.”

a "light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,"

Spider .. its obvious you were not around 10 years ago when the Bush administration started borrowing from China and the rest of the world to fund two wars and cut taxes for the rich .. what we have now is the fruit of the Bush administrations unfunded .. Wars ..mandates .. tax cuts .. the Obama administration has been busy for 3 years trying to clean the mess up .. Congressman Hoekstra voted in lock step with the GOP controlled House and Senate to Spend Spend Borrow Borrow the facts are the facts

still i dont hate or fear the illegals- i just wish

people would stop scapegoating them? the same way people used to (and often still do) scapegoat African Americans and others?

The prejudice is the same. And, not surprisingly, most of it is born of ignorance, same as it ever was.

If it was LEGAL to immigrate to the United States regardless of background, NO ONE would overstay a visa or risk death by crossing a hostile desert. And the ONLY reason it's NOT legal for people to immigrate to the United States regardless of background is because a bunch of bigoted politicians made sure there were obstacles for Latin Americans, Catholics, and certain other groups, beginning in 1965, and made worse in 1986.

truetexan, boy you sure are.....

supreme court ruling unlimited monies from anybody can and now will be spent on political campaigns...

what was that about the constitution again?

The Bush administration has taught us that you cannot trust republicans with our money. Elect Romney and we will have another war in Iran on a credit card. Elect Romney and deficits won't matter once again. Elect Romney and the middle class will take yet another knockout punch from even more severe trickle down economics. Elect Romney and we will lose that safety net he says will defend the poor he doesn't care about. Romney should stop explaining his Freudian slips. He just makes it worse for himself.

well that just made Debbie Stabenow's re-election that much easier. You RWNJ's don't know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. btw, here in the mitten state, we call her Stab-you-now!

I live in Michigan and I saw the ad live twice yesterday. I have also traveled to China MANY times over the last 20 years for business, so I probably understand how China works better than most. While the ad may arguably have been insensitive, it is also pretty accurate.

Debbie Stabenow is a great example of what is wrong with the US Senate. Our leaders have taken the "Teach a man to fish" proverb and turned it around so that if our government eventually stops providing the free fish they are basically accused by the left of murder. The free lunch in America NEEDS to stop! We can no longer afford to pay for this 70-year socialist welfare experiment while also borrowing from the Chinese and others who buy our debt. The nuttiest part of all of this is that we STILL provide $65,000,000 (2010 federal budget) each year in 3rd world type financial aid to China... in part financed by the money they give us by purchasing our national debt. STOP THE INSANITY!! STOP DEBBIE SPEND-IT-NOW!!!

well, I just watched the ad and I must say this little cutie can ride in my rickshaw anyday!

whoops....I hope I didn't offend anybody....

so sorry....

Oh god....

I mean: me likey ad

oh jeez.....

After all, who wants to be called an "illegal".

It's every bit as offensive and dehumanizing as any racial eptithet, but if we say "I don't mean anything racial by it" we can get away with it, and use it to denigrate anyone from Latin America, any immigrant, anyone with brown skin, anyone who speaks with an accent, and so on.

It's a disgusting term.

Heather,

You prove my point exactly. Its okay to say terrible and disgusting things about a president, as long as he is a Republican. But when a Democrat is in office, by golly, if anyone says anything bad about him they are just bigoted a**holes!! You see how pathetic you are? You are a great example of the whiny one-way street liberals.

Of course, the liberals play the race card. What a crock. The message is that China is getting all of our money that the Obama/Pelosi/Reed Democrats keep spending. You'll go to any lengths to deflect and personally attack. Not one word about the issue.

Rick YOU are part of the problem...if the Rich 1% wasnt sending our jobs to China, YOU wouldnt be traveling there for business MANY times....

The reason for borrowing from China ISNT because of SS or any other program like that, ITS TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH, AND UNFUNDED WARS..The wars Bush lied to the entire world to get us into, the wars that Bush conviently didnt count towards the deficit to make the numbers look better...

IN FACT one of Bushs' campaign promises was that he would NOT raid the SS trust, and what does he do?

One of the first things was give the Rich a Tax break and raid the SS trust fund to pay for it.....

You are nothing but one of the herd buddy...

try thinking for yourself...

AND I will say, or make the comment that yes those that can think for themselves unlike YOU, know that the Dems are by no means angels, but they SURE ARE A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE

The more desperate the right wing gets the more hateful their rhetoric will become. Their beginning to realise that 75% of Americans disagree with their twisted philosophy, so they dip into the gutter of hate, fear and racism in order to attract the 25% of under informed Americans that still cheer them on. It is both sickening and pathetic to witness. I truly feel pity for anyone still supporting the Republican/Tea Party.

The ad is depicted as being IN CHINA. What do you expect to see IN CHINA? A Scotsman, a Swede? How is THAT racist to depict a native person in their native country? Ad is just telling it like IT IS. Try to tell anyone in the U.S. that China doesn't practically OWN us. You can't!!

And so far, (probably won't ever) see anything written about Obama telling an audience that he is being guided by the BIBLE to raise taxes. What happened to keeping religion OUT of government. Where are all the libs who conjured up horror stories of how the Republicans will govern with and by the Bible. Call Christians "bible thumpers". Yet, we have Obama, showing up this year (unlike last year, but then it wasn't an election year,) to the Christian prayer breakfast, saying he makes his decisions and governs by what the Bible tells him....Chapter & Verse, and cricketts from MSNBC and all those who mocked the others unmercifully. Weren't you all OFFENDED???? Afraid??

Roanoke, saying bad things are one thing, but Kenyan, witch doctor pictures, etc are another...

If you are too blind to see the things for what they are doesnt mean they are not there..

Is Obama the best POTUS? not by any means...

The whole point is he is having to deal with the UNPRESIDENTED active undermining of the presidency ever to occur in our country...

NO other POTUS has had to endure this treatment, EVER

IT IS WRITTEN, PROVEN that whatever Obama wants, the GOP is against..

there are HUNDREDS of examples of the GOP having things that were their policy, and as soon as Obama is onboard with it, they now are all against it, damned what it does to the country....

Dems have had plenty of presidents before, so why is Obama being put through this UNLIKE any other Democratic POTUS ever?

The answer is as plain as day...Its too bad sheeple like you cant see it

Aggie, Too many people here don't understand the difference between racial and racist.

They claim that we think that they have the same meaning.

Roanoke1 - you completely miss the point. We gave george Bush a chance and he sold us out and messed up our county. We didn't start hating him until he stared 2 wars and ruined our good standing in the world. These are actual reasons, not some outlandish rubbish, like the birther movement. You can't see the difference?

Whether the ad is "racist" or not --- it definitely does not tell the Truth. It isn't Government spending money that sends jobs overseas.

It is the Capitalist ideaology that MONEY is far more important than PEOPLE which sends jobs overseas.

Truth hurts.

GOP said somthing wrong.

Conservatives scrabble like roaches to pick up the piece and defend at all costs.

Try Hards.

hahahaha @ skeeter

racial vs racist..

a Chinese woman with a perfect english dialect speaking in broken english isnt racist..

hahahahahahahahaha

who doesnt know the difference?

Racism isnt right, i dont care if alot of people think this way from where you live(south)

that doesnt make it right, it just makes it an excuse for you to be racist

and you know deep down you're wrong

pitiful pigs

What'snext?

I just notice that conservatives fear alot of things, no wonder thier candidates are always so efficient in attracting morons

Fear of: terrorism

Foriegn country

Race

Change

and 'god'

Whats next? a flying hotdog?

Dan, the last time I talk to you until you grow up.

What's the difference between a puppy and most of the posters on here? Eventually the puppy stops whining.

George Bush was bashed because he PROVED to be the worst president in the history of our country, not because he was republican or white.

Let's not leave Carter out of the equation. Wasn't exactly a 'shining moment' in American political history.

Dan and Heather,

again, you both prove my point. As long as IN YOUR OPINION, the previous president did a bad job, ONLY THEN IS it okay to call him names and compare him to Hitler and compare him to the devil and such...which is exactly what libs did to Bush for several years at the end of his presidency. So, again, if YOUR OPINION is that the president is doing a bad job...then it's okay to treat him terribly. Gotcha. Do you see how shallow and one-sided you are? You are blinded by your own ideology. It is time to stop blaming Bush. Obama has had nearly a full term now, AND HE SAID HIMSELF THAT IF HE DIDNT HAVE THE ECONOMY BACK TO NORMAL IN THREE YEARS, THAT THIS WOULD BE A ONE TERM PROPOSITION. You simply like to label those who disagree with you or those who think Obama has done a bad job as racists! You are so transparent its not even funny.

And Obama STARTED THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT BY WAITING TWO YEARS TO RELEASE HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE. He is sooo secretive, he likes to hide things. Why not release your grades as an undergrad? Why not release your transcripts? He is supposedly SOOOO intelligent, so what is there to hide? He was the editor for the Harvard Law Review...yet the man WILL NOT RELEASE HIS THESIS for the rest of the country to read. WHY NOT? What is there to hide? He wont release his grades from Occidental, Columbia, OR Harvard. Why, when most of us have to release our transcripts to get a good job, why should the president be treated any differently? Oh, gotcha, because anyone who wants to know what our president earned in school must be racist. Anyone who has a problem WITH HIM SITTING IN REV. WRIGHTS CHURCH FOR OVER 20 years must be a racist. The same reverend who hates Jews and says "god-damn" America. But, if we have a problem with that, we must be racist.

Obama has not made this country any better. We have massive polarization, he rammed through Obamacare on partisan lines with shady backroom deals where he bought votes from his own party (Sestak 7, Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback), passed the stimulus on partisan lines which even Obama admitted was a failure: "I guess shovel-ready wasnt as shovel-ready as we thought", and then he laughs because a trillion dollars of taxpayer dollars wasted is funny. Unemployment is still over 8%, the longest streak since WWII, regardless of all his policies, and the NON PARTISAN CBO report just released this The week said unemployment will go up to at least 9.2% by this time next year (right at election time, yikes). The housing market is still at its worst in over 30 years. Obama killed the Keystone Pipeline which would have created thousands of jobs and reduced our dependency on foreign oil (and now Canada is taking those jobs and that business to China). I can go on and on...but I must be a racist. LOL!

Because I tell one of my Mexican workers to go eat a taco doesn't mean I hate them... nor do they take it as such. This society has become way too sensitive to the silliest things... and it's not all racism. We are people... we not only make mistakes, we joke. And so what if each of us holds our own personal prejudices?

Yeah. I recently completed a defensve driving course to lower my auto insurance. There was a guy sitting in the very back of the class who said he was there because he rear ended a car that had stopped behind a fire truck and an ambulance. The driver of the car that got rear ended was "an illegal" according to the guy in the back of the class. The guy was mad because he got a ticket. He said, "I hit a guy who had no right to be there, I shouldn't have gotten a ticket, I should have gotten a reward!" Apparently the police disagreed, because he got a ticket. I wondered if he thought the guy he ran into should have slammed into the back of the ambulance instead of 'being there'.

The instructor asked him why he ran into the guy. He answered, "I was bending over to pick up a taco I dropped on the floor. The whole thing was pretty funny actually." Someone else asked him how he knew the guy was "illegal" and the guy said "I could tell by looking at him."

Turns out the guy who rear-ended the other guy is a lifeguard. Stay away from his beach if you don't 'look' like him though. He might try to get a reward by letting you drown.

I don't think he considers himself a bad person or a bigot. He might even go along with the statement "And so what...?"

roanoake I will say only one thing..when Obama said what he said about the three year thing, he NEVER envisioned the GOP actively undermining his presidency to the point of them not caring if it hurt the country or not..Had they cooperated even a little and he couldnt get things done due to his policies and such, sure, then he doesnt deserve another term..but that isnt what happened, now is it?

one more thing, what other POTUS has even been asked to show his "long form" birth certificate?

so who started that again?

i wish i was as ignorant as you, i wouldnt worry so much

The thing in this is easy and part of it very true..if anyone cares to see it. This country, thanks to our elected in congress...which the republicxans are a big part of..is IN huge debt ..and that debt HAS been sold to China..so tell me who is winning any war...the USA..with more debt brought on by the Bush Addministration ..or Obama..who is at least tring to get things under some kind of control. HAve the republicans helped with any of this..no, not at all, unless it is their own idea they block everyting..whether or not the idea would help this nation. This used to be a nation of the many...all inclusive..that is no more. The only thing today that matters is profits..and all of congress is getting their part of it..including all republicans in office today..and those that want to be our president.

skeeter: whaaaa, whaaaa, im not talking to you Dan

I prove its YOU that doesnt know the difference between racial and racist, and you stomp off like a child that just got his lolipop taken away from the teacher..

but IM the child...ok

I agree with the GOP consultant who called the ad "really dumb."

They said they want to be agressive about the issue. Great! Why don't you do so with facts and your specific plans to fix things? What specific cuts would you make? What specific things did Stabenow vote for that you believe caused this problem? Or would doing so expose the fact that he voted in favor of TARP-which certainly did not help solve the problem with which he wishes to be agresssive?

Even if you do not find the ad racist, which it clearly is, you have to question the judgement of someone who would run such an ad.

Who would vote for someone with so little judgement?

oh and roanoke, why didnt you address what i said about the TOTAL unpresidented obstructionism Obama has endured?

You dont think that matters as far as how this country, no the world hasnt recovered yet?

Obama STARTED THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT....

...by having the unmitigated gall to be born to a 'black' father and a 'white' mother?

No other President in history has been asked to produce a birth certificate; the State of Hawaii certified that the President was born in the US long before YOU say the President released whatever you say it was that he released that you finally believed; and STILL people go around making silly wisecracks like "Obama started the birther movement".

That kinda says something, don't you think?

Obama likes to play bait and switch with the GOP. They go with a proposal he makes, he changes it. And they usually have good reason not to go with his switched up version. All a game to make it GOP's fault that there is discord in D.C. Obama is THE biggest political games player. Maybe even in history. Why hasn't the Senate so much as looked at several budgets sent up from Congress? Why has Obama not worked on any budget....until now...he SAYS he'll have one. OR more like his usual M.O. he'll have it right AFTER the election, cover his as s. Or, he'll submit a partial document, with more to come later....er, after the election, that is. SO sick of his games...

Roanoke - there's a big difference between a citizen protesting in public and a potential Congressmen's campaign commercial advertised on the Super Bowl.

roanoke, yes lets talk Keystone pipeline....sure jobs would be created, but they would be TEMP jobs....after completion only a LIMITED number of jobs would be needed to maintain it{ALASKA} CHECK IT OUT...

THEN look up what that mining operation is doing to the land up there, GIANT lakes of sludge where land once was resulting in how the oil is extracted.....

Then obviously YOU dont know how the worlds oil is sold...Oil is put into futures that are sold ON THE WORLD MARKET, not nationally, so that oil would DO NOTHING to reduce our dependancy on foriegn oil...The last time i checked, Canada is a foreign nation, AND the oil wont get sold directly to the US......

I love it. When the libs (like Fiesty, Beverly, et. al.)can't defend on the substance of the ads or statements, they instantly play the race card to distract everyone from the fact that the ads or statements are dead on point and have exposed them.

Nice try Fiesty, but the ad isn't racist. It just pulls the curtain back on your party's failings. Poor little Fiesty. It must be tough when you have to defend the indefensible leaders in your party.

How did I not see this ad during the game?

that said...I think this just continues to prove how stupid republicans are, and can be.

Racist or not...it's just plain STUPID.

The point could have been made, without marginalizing asian people.

And Hoekstra can suck it...you know he's been A-OK with outsourcing our jobs, just as all republicans have been (and many democrats)...they dont work for WE THE PEOPLE (as in individuals) they work for WE THE PEOPLE (as in corporations).

Corporations benefit by outsourcing, America...and every day Americans, do not.

And frankly, republicans spend just as much...they just prefer to spend it on their adult boy friends who think they're the real live GI JOE's.

bingo commonsense!!!!

Commonsense...your not making sense..."After all, who wants to be called an "illegal"."

This not a racial comment, it is only a description of a person’s residency status in the USA. You are either here legally or illegally. There are legal ways to become a citizen.

I guess we should stop calling child molesters 'scum bags'

Hey, Rambo is missing on this ad... (please insert sarcasm here)...

Zathrose - what substance did this ad offer?

What FACTS did it give? What realities, that both parties dont own...did it expose?

The funny thing is...it's been liberals, unions and middle class workers bellyaching about all our jobs outsourced...

and BOTH PARTIES (elected officials) have turned deaf ears to us.

But it's been mostly republicans, trying to crush the life out of the unions doing the most bellyaching about lost jobs.

It was allan greenspan who said that in order for the jobs to come back, americans had to compete for those crappy wages.

So, are you saying this ad was spot on pointing out both parties are hypocrites and playing us for the fools YOU ARE PROVING TO BE?

No matter your politics or whether you think the ad is racist or not, you have to admit it's pretty lame. $75k spent to air it and an unknown amount of money spent to create the ad.... me thinks someone got ripped off.

Zathrose, I love how GOP sheeples fail to understand that Bush was borrowing from the Chinese before Obama was a Senator, and that the borrowing was the result in UNPRESIDENTED unpaid tax cuts and UNFUNDED wars, NOT any program like SS or welfare, or unemployment or any other saftey net for the poor....

IN FACT one of Bushs' campaign PROMISES was he wouldnt raid the SS trust fund, but one of the very FIRST things he did was cut taxes unfunded, and RAID the SS trust fund....

What a rabid overreaction. The woman in the commercial is not a racial stereotype. Her English is practically perfect. For the candidate to "personalize" the indebtedness to China is indeed appropriate. Far too many Americans think of this national debt in abstract terms but the facts are real jobs are being lost to real Chinese workers. The Obama administration has spent 5 trillion dollars in 3 to 4 years, borrowed mostly from China and giving the Chinese undue influence over our government!

What is wrong with pointing out the record of the candidate and how the policies that they support effect the nation?

The funny thing is...it's been liberals, unions and middle class workers bellyaching about all our jobs outsourced

No the funny thing is that the elitist liberals with their overbearing regulations and the bellyaching unions with their demands for overpriced pay, outrageous pensions, and lousy work ethics that have forced jobs overseas. That is what the ad exposes. And I agree with you, it does point out that you are being played for the fool YOU ARE PROVING TO BE.

What is wrong with pointing out the record of the candidate and how the policies that they support effect the nation?

Where exactly does he do that? At what point in the ad does he articulate the specific policies that his opponent supported which led to this problem (or that he himself voted for TARP) and what he would do differently? What programs would he cut? Whose taxes would he increase? What specifically would he do to keep jobs from going overseas?

Zathrose, elitist liberals...I LOVE THAT..

hahahahahahaha

Yeah we are so elitist that we want to help those less fortunate than us with those damn socialist things like unemployment insurance, food stamps, and retirement supplements like Social security..{although tens of thousands of seniors DEPEND on that damn socialist Social Security to live}

damn us elistists

bellyaching unions with their demands for overpriced pay, outrageous pensions, and lousy work ethics that have forced jobs overseas.

Exactly! If Americans would just agree to work for $5 a day like overseas workers do, we could keep all of the jobs here! But, no. They don't want to be slaves. They want fair pay! It is their own fault!

American workers are never going to compete with 3rd world countries at what we are willing to be paid. Remove all unions, and Americans are still going to need to be paid more than Chinese workers.

The idea that Americans have to lower our standards of fair pay so that we can compete with overseas labor is not only wrong, but scary.

OK...I'm going to try being emotionally and mentally lazy like the right wingers posting today.

Defending a racist ad as not being racist is...surprise...racist. Refer back to the "reverse racism" campaign launched by the KKK in the early 70's. The racists out today can't even score a point for originality...and we all know that a lack of creative reasoning is indicative of those with a pitifully low IQ. Due to the lack of manners and accuracy in the posts, I'd say the comments are definitely originated with the "tea" party...which, of course, has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with "evangelical" christianity. Now....As sure as all Asian women talk funny, we all know that all evangelicals have intimate sexual relations with their immediate family.

So - using that logic, I have proven undeniably that all republicans are stupid, inbred racists.

Gotcha,

so again, LOL, all you libs prove my point. All former presidents in the modern era, AND EVEN JUST PEOPLE RUNNING FOR president, almost ALWAYS released their school records, and all proved that they were born here by having their birth certificate verified. Why was Obama given a free pass? And do not say that he originally showed it, if that was the case, what was it he just released last year, after two years of being asked for it?? Again, if idiot Obama had simply shown this from the beginning, instead of thumbing his nose at everyone for two years, this whole "birther" idea would have been nixed from the start. Common, you are simply showing yourself for the ideological liberal that you are. It is true that if Obama gave rise to the birther movement by WAITING TWO YEARS to release his long form birth certificate. Its HIS fault. This is man WHOSE FATHER WAS NOT A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY and a man who lived for the first 15 years off the American mainland. But God forbid he has to show his birth certificate, since HE WONT SHOW ANY OTHER RECORDS, certainly not his college records!! LOL!! (Oh, and go read your own uber-lib journalist, former white house press corps head and most respected journalist in the white house for DECADES on Obama's "control, power, and complete lack of transparency"=secrecy. Yeah, so even Helen Thomas agrees with me. Ouch, eh?

Quit blaming Bush, its pathetic. Obama has had almost a full term now, he stated himself that that should be enough or his presidency would be a one term propostition. You can try to twist it into a positive any way you like. Bottom line, the NON PARTISAN CBO says unemployment will go waaay up by next year (at election time) and the economy will start to founder again. Hooray for Obama's policies, they are working so well.

Dan, you are silly, and it shows. Fields of sludge?? LOL, ahh more liberal fear tactics. The Keystone project has been studied for over three years!! It has been deemed environmentally safe by independent scientists. Temporary jobs? Some of them. But it would take many many jobs to keep the most massive pipeline in America in working condidtions every year, year after year. This creates MANY PERMANENT jobs. And the oil WOULD be refined here and resold HERE (and some going overseas as well). Of course it would reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Go read a book instead of taking what msnbc spoon feeds you.

THANK YOU ROANOAK...

http: //www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201111/tar-sands/

www. sierraclub.org/sierra/201111/tarsands/

yes here are the PICTURES that prove what i say..

yes the tar sands have been studied by the very group that has the owners of the keystone pipeline as clients..

no conflict of interest there..

LOL

again thank you roanoake keep proving my point of how you are no more than a sheeple with a GOP button on your shirt.....

oh BTW, If you know how, look up the requirements of being elected POTUS, and or being a natural born citizen....

If you need help, let me know i will give you the links

Dan,

again, you prove my point. If you arent blaming Bush, then you are blaming current Republicans. ITS PATHETIC. Obama had an initial SUPERMAJORITY at the start of his term, this dropped to a COMPLETE control of Congress, with Dems controlling the House, the Senate, and the Presidency until the 2010 midterms!! So stop complaining about Republican obstructionism. It is the DEMS who said they will shut down the government if Repubs didnt allow them to raise the debt ceiling. OH NO!! Those evil repubs, they dont want to raise the debt, further myring us in crippling debt...so as Democrats, lets demonize them and threaten to shut down the government if we dont get our way! SAD AND PATHETIC.

Feb. 3 (Bloomberg) -- A Republican-backed bill giving the
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission power to approve TransCanada Corp.’s
Keystone XL pipeline would remove two federal agencies from oversight, officials
of the Interior Department and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said.

The Interior Department is responsible for monitoring
construction and maintenance of pipelines on U.S. land, and the legislation
makes FERC the “sole federal agency responsible for the project,” Mike Pool,
deputy director of Interior’s Bureau of Land Management, said today at a House
subcommittee hearing in Washington. The Corps would lose its permitting
authority for the pipeline, an official said.

Some labor groups backed the pipeline as a job creator. The State Department, in
a report to Congress, said the project would create between 5,000 to 6,000
construction jobs during the two years needed to build the pipeline{DURING THE CONSTRUCTION}

The U.S. State Department, which must green light the project, forecasts just 5,000 direct U.S. jobs over a two year construction period.

Even according to TransCanada, the amount of permanent jobs created would be only in the hundreds.

WELL WHAT NOW ROANOAKE?

TRANSCANANDA SAYS ONLY A FEW HUNDRED JOBS WOULD BE PERMANENT

See what just the SLIGHTEST amount of research can do for a person...

MAYBE someday you will learn to think for yourself

In the final stretch of the Massachusetts special election for Senate, Republican candidate Scott Brown has focused on “restoring balance” to Washington. He’ll be the “41st vote” to filibuster legislation; the Democrats’ hold on 60 votes has let liberals run the country into the ground. “That’s not what the founders intended,” he said Monday during the final debate.

The irony is that if Democrats lose the seat, they will have had a working 60-seat majority for all of four months — much of which was spent with the Senate in recess. They opened the Congress in January with 58 votes, counting the ailing Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.), not counting Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.), whose razor-thin victory was held up by lawsuits from former Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.). On April 28, 2009, Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.) switched to the Democratic Party, bringing the Democrats to 59 votes without Franken. When Franken was finally sworn in on into the Senate on July 7, 2009, the badly ailing Kennedy was unable to vote and break filibusters. Kennedy died on Aug.25, 2009, but it took Massachusetts Democrats — who run every aspect of their state government — a full month to pass legislation seating a replacement, Sen. Paul Kirk (D-Mass.). He took office on Sept. 24, 2009. Only then, and only depending on whether Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) was well, did the Democrats have a supermajority.

SO MUCH FOR HAVING A SUPERMAJORITY

4 MONTHS OF WHICH MOST OF IT THE SENATE WAS IN RECESS...

ummm, exactly how much could have gotten done in that time?

roanoke1, you are making this too easy for me....

I Love this story "Long Time"!!!

When Carter was in office, the GOP bashed him & the DEMS were idiots.

When Reagan was in office, the DEMS bashed him & the GOP were idiots.

When Bush was in office, the DEMS bashed him & the GOP were idiots.

When Clinton was in office, the GOP bashed him & the DEMS were idiots.

When Sonny-boy was in office, the DEMS bashed him & the GOP were idiots.

Now Obama is in office, the GOP bash him & the DEMS are idiots.

Am I the only one who sees a pattern here?

Finally stopped laughing at all of the comments above.... A couple of questions for Peter Hoekstra? How much money did you spend on this ad? Where in Asia was this filmed? What is the nationality of the actress? Seems like he created atleast a couple of jobs in a foreign country to create this ad... the hypocrisy of his message should be apparent.

GOP hypocrisy rocks!!!

AMF

Can anyone explain how this is racist? If it is, who is it racist against? (Whites for sending jobs and money there? Chinese for taking jobs and lending us money? Blacks because there isn't any representation of them in the ad?) Do the Chinese not hold a lot of our debt? Are not the vast majority of people who live in China not "Chinese" looking?

I guess we just have to ban people from being in ads or stating any opinions because it is all racist! Of course, that's the whole idea of libs constant cries of racism. They do want to shut down all talk and ideas that disagree with them and they think people are stupid enough to fall for the racism line. Looks like the only ones dumb enough to fall for it are the libs.

Miss deanna, bashing and obstructing are VERY different things

witchrunner yet another GOP sheeple...

its racist because a woman with an obvious perfect english dialect speaking broken english....

why wasnt it in Chinese with subtitles?

couldnt they find a Chinese woman that couldnt speak english so well?

If you have to ask, then i doubt you will ever know or understand

For the majority on this commentary page to blame the government for the outsourcing is to show that the outsourcing of our jobs is not understood by the majority of commentators. I have stated many times that outsourcing is created by companies who's management order their managers what to send out .I have also stated what I believe is the solution to this problem. Punish the major offenders by treating their outsourced parts as foreign products and not merely as parts of the whole. At the moment our government is considering attempting to bribe them to stop.That will never,never work. The other comments are on racism . The rule is simple. If it is considered racist then don't use it,even if you personally do not believe it is not.

Ah, okay, so more excuses. "Obama ONLY had a supermajority for 4 months." WAHHH! "Obama and the dems ONLY had complete CONTROL OF CONGRESS UNTIL 2010." We still have NEVER BOTHERED TO PASS A BUDGET. WAHH!! Do you see how pathetic you are? He could have gotten anything done he wanted...say...like RAM OBAMACARE DOWN OUR THROATS WITH NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE!!! Oh...but there was so much GOP obstructionism!! LOL!!! WAHHH!!!

The Keystone Pipeline would have created thousands of jobs, you said so yourself. You can continue to play semantics and justify Obama killing jobs all you like...the fact remains: OBAMA KILLED THOUSANDS OF JOBS. WAHH!!! But there was so much Republican obstructionism! LOL.

Maybe someday YOU will learn to actually use your brain and read objective research material instead of vomiting out what msnbc spoon-feeds your weak brain.

Hey, at least the CBO said that unemployment is going to go waaaay up again right around election time. Sooo, yeah...great. Obama's economic policies are really working well. Maybe Obama should have tried to pass a budget....or not raise the debt ceiling...or not intentionally kill jobs. LOL!! Good stuff, keep on being and ignorant mouthpiece.

Roanoke

Hey, at least the CBO said that unemployment is going to go waaaay up again right around election time.

The CBO also stated that "Obamacare" will save a trillion dollars in the decade following its full implementation in 2014. Do you believe all the CBO says, or do you prefer to be selective?

Ah, okay, so more excuses. "Obama ONLY had a supermajority for 4 months." WAHHH! "Obama and the dems ONLY had complete CONTROL OF CONGRESS UNTIL 2010."

DONT LET FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY OF A GOOD POST....

If they dont have a super majority they filibuster...

you can sit there and flail your arms all around and type all the bullcrap you want, but facts are facts

have your mommy explain what the meaning of COMPLETE is....

COMPLETE=SUPER MAJORITY no less

hahahahahaha, showing you for the sheeple you are is fun

btw, i have posted links to articles other than on here...you just dont know how to access them...

"bashing and obstructing are VERY different things"

I'm sorry Dan, but you completely missed the point.

Did anybody get it?

Wow! This vine is amazing. A full blown onslaught of racism in full view! Utterly fantastic. This is EXACTLY what is needed to show the fence-sitters just how poisonous the right-wing has become.

And, watching the over-the-top racists dig the hole for themselves deeper and deeper as they flail thier arms about... trying to RATIONALIZE their racism...PRICELESS!!!!! Progressives couldn't ask for more. Thank you right-wing conservative racists! Thank you! Please, please. please keep on showing the world your true colors. Please!

And Dan, Thank you (seriously)...your point is the point. If someone has to ask the question why it's racist, then they are a racist. They still don't get it. I love it.

No Miss Deanna, i didnt miss anything...bashing the opposing party is what happens in every single country and has forever....Its human nature to get the upper hand with the peoples opinion....So pointing that out is just plain obvious...BUT what i said about obstructionism is what matters most as this is detrimental to the country as a whole....

The ad wasn't the most tasteful, with the only insulting part probably being the broken English. Can anyone state what was not factual in the ad? Yes, it is true the politicians in office borrowed a ton of money from the Chinese (both parties voted on it) and they continue to borrow and spend.

Its no worse than the dems running ads making fun of Palin as being an uneducated redneck or Christians all being right wing dogmatic idiots who lack empathy for others. But then it's ok to culturally insult rednecks and Christians, but not Asians? Insulting any racial, ethnic, cultural, or religious group should be frowned upon, but the media often ignores when the insulting comes from one of their own political affiliation.

FYI: Not all rednecks carry guns, have pick-up trucks with dog boxes, and 6th grade educations. Also, many Christians are democrats, believe in things like birth control, and hold doctorate degrees in the sciences.

That was boneheaded - not racist, but because he didn't think the thing the whole way through he gets a well-deserved black eye.

The left - always expanding definitions to stoke the racism fire.

Is the ad racist? Probably. But it is also completely wrong. All of China knows that it's the Republican policies that have been making them so successful.

I can't help but think of the Chinese multi-millionaire developer of Solar Power equipment, who thanked Jimmy Carter for funding early research into solar energy, and then thanked Ronald Reagan for cancelling funding so he and China could take it over and become rich. Democrats, it seems, think about long term progress, and Republicans want to return to the middle ages.

Caligula, you sound just like your Avatar: A COMPLETEY INSANE, RAGING MADMAN (who liked having incestuous sex with his sisters, just sayin). Yikes..a little awkward... LOL. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

Whether or not the ad was intended to be racist is irrelevant. The real question: how come white conservatives feel justified to judge what is or isn't racist? The Association that represents Asian Americans is wrong when they say this ad is offensive? When Obama is depicted as a monkey in an email by a CA GOP official, African Americans are wrong? When Latinos protest against a mayor, who shrugs off Federal offenses by eating Taco's, they are wrong?

No folks, THIS is wrong: GOP pols who believe that they have to stoop to gutter politics to satisfy their base. They might not be racists, worse: they will use racist visuals and language, or any other disgusting tactic for a win. The old Newt playbook of personal destruction. Worked great for Newt, now it has given us the hate and divide show disguised as the GOP primary.

Wading through the right-wing crap in here... Hoekstra is a douche-bag who has succeeded in free coverage with yet more controversial (i.e. troll) behavior. China holds 8% of our debt, not insignificant, but most treasury bonds are owned by Americans.

And then we could go into why we have debt in the first place, such as wars, tax cuts for the rich who don't need breaks, etc. Hoekstra voted for everything that increased our deficits including the Medicare drug expansion.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow rocks!

As usual, the conservatives invest money and effort into alienating and berating minorities, and then claim that any criticism of it is "the race card."

Dan: I must admit that it is scary that libs have absolutely no logic. I guess that's why they will vote for 4 more years of the blissful economy we've been having that's all thanks to Obama. Given your logic, you are saying that it isn't racist to use an actual Chinese person who speaks chopped English, but just racist when such person is imitated by someone who speaks perfect English. So, it is nice of you to admit that Obama is racist. He speaks perfect English, but when he speaks in front of black audiences he fakes his "black" English. So, who are you going to vote for President, it's obviously not going to be Obama because you said he is racist. Well, maybe you like racists?

Roanoke...

You will simply have to do better than that. Sophomoric, feeble-minded retorts such as yours just prove my point even further. You guys are really, really too much. Why don't you just get a hammer and hit yourself in the head with it instead of posting anything here? The damage that you would do to yourself couldn't be any worse to what you've done to yourself already by struggling and failing to write something even remotely coherent, intelligent or meaningful. I'm just trying to help...but I fear my efforts are in vain...but seriously...try the hammer...

witchrunner, its a black thing..you wouldnt know about that...My wife is black, and thats how it is TO EACH OTHER, not on a TV ad.....

spin it any way you want, you know the GOP/teabaggers are a bunch of racists, I know they are, you just wont admit it

witchrunner, its a black thing..you wouldnt know about that...My wife is black, and thats how it is TO EACH OTHER, not on a TV ad.....

and there you have it!

Dan- Nice typ lib bs avoid the questions and throw back some with abunch of insults. And dems say the repubs are same minded. Unlike you and most in your party I have voted for both sides and will continue to as long as a candidate is worthy. If you are from SF then how do you feel about us shoveling millions in to support your liberal sanctuary city? Use that city as a guide that pur lib ideas fail. Why do lib want to be like Europe? Are you to blind to see the trouble they are in?

English and only English should be made the "Official Language of the U.S.." Any and all Federal, State & Local Governments should operate ONLY in English. Money spent on "English as a Second Language" should be discontinued, the money is better spent elsewhere.

Sister-sex (Caligula),

Do better than what? Your random pathetic liberal flailings and incoherent accusations that simply make you out to be a pseudo-intellectual race-baiting fool? It seems my post to you hit a nerve, eh? LOL. Good! I like to see pathetic liberals such as yourself get their panties (or their sisters') all up in a bunch. You haven't made a single, rational, substantive post on this entire newsvine. You dont even attempt to debate the issues, because your weak brain does not have the capacity. All you have done on this thread is name call and accuse people of racism!! That is it!! You represent the classic liberal. "When they dont agree with you, call them names, and if that doesn't work...call them RACISTS as a last resort." Thanks for showing us all how intellectually weak and pathetic you and other liberals are! Happy days, now dont go all Caligula-insane on me...you have incest to tend to! LOL.

Keep pretending the modern GOP isn't a racist organization...keep pretending.

yes, there you have it is correct. Dan just showed us who the racist is on here. Just another liberal / socialist racist.

Dan, like the rest of the libs (remember, Democrats started the KKK and filibustered the Civil Rights Act), is racist and enjoys keeping black people and other minorites staying in poverty. That way, they can continue giving hand outs and other taxpayer-government funds to them, thus acquiring their vote for generations to come. Example? Democrats have had control of the House and Senate for a large portion of the last 50 years. In that time, taxpayers have given TRILLIONS of dollars to those who are poor. The poverty rate has not gone down ONE TICK, it HAS GONE UP! Giving handouts does nothing to incentivise doing for oneself. But Dan, and other libs dont mind. As long as we can keep giving millions of citizens things for free (off the backs of working taxpayers) then Dan knows his party will always have their vote. Pretty sad and pathetic Dan. But, I guess thats what we should expect from a racist like you.

Hey look,

its John B from Des Moines, the only poster I've ever met that "likes" his own posts immediately after posting them. LOL! What a pathetic tool!
John, we all know you are a typical Jew-hating racist liberal. Back to your Klan meeting in your mommy's basement now...LOL.

Dan, like the rest of the libs (remember, Democrats started the KKK and filibustered the Civil Rights Act)

Ignorance must truly be blissful!

Zen,

Ever read a history book before?? If you ever attempted to actually learn the truth, and research it yourself instead of being spoonfed your ideology from liberals...you will find that DEMOCRATS DID START THE KKK, after DEMOCRATS were defeated trying to keep slavery alive in the Civil War. DEMOCRATS then started Jim Crowe laws so DEMOCRATS could keep blacks down and not have to give them equality. Then DEMOCRATS filibustered the REPUBLICAN 1964 Civil Rights Act...Guess who led the Democrat filibuster AGAINST giving blacks their equality? AL GORE SR! LOL!!!

But sure Zen, you are right...YOU OWN ignorance must be blissful...because it's obvious you have no idea what you are talking about and it's obvious you are a product of our wonderful public school system (which means you were never taught anything). LOL!

Please stop spinning history. All of the things you are attributing to Democrats were the Dixiecrats who became Republicans as soon as the CRA was passed. Feel free to keep spinning history to fit your needs, however. All of the racist Dems who fought CRA are now teabaggers and republicans. It was called the Southern Strategy.

Roanoke...

You obviously have not tried the hammer yet. It starts with you. You have to be willing to help yourself before others can help you...

Zen,

again, go read a book please. So, oh...okay. So are you saying that nearly 100 years of RACIST DEMOCRAT policies now simply disappear because YOU state "all those racist democrats switched to being republicans in the late 1960s"? Gotcha. So, Democrats did not carry on the Civil War over slavery. Democrats did not create the KKK. Woodrow Wilson (liberal) did not espouse the KKK movie "Birth of a Nation." Democrats did not create Jim Crowe laws. Democrats did not filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Democrat Al Gore Sr did not filibuster the Civil Rights Act. Democrat Robert Byrd, elected for DECADES by Democrats...was NOT in the KKK. GOTCHA. All of that is just pure lies. None of that ever happened, because YOU CLAIM they all switched parties in the 1960s. LOL!!! WOW. Talk about ignorance being blissful!!

Caligula,

Dont you have a park to be pooping in? Cops to assault? Drugs to ingest? Women to rape? Drums to beat on? Tents to live in? Whining about what you dont have in this life and blaming your problems on others? What are you doing still hanging out in your parents' basement? You have so much whining to do, and there has to be a OWS movement somewhere near you! Get to it!

Zen- the tea party is fairly new just so know.

Jerry,

This discussion is about Pete Hoekstra. Try to stay focused. Leave the spin and deflect to the experts at FOX.

Nice handbag you got there Jerry (per your avatar). What designer label is it?

To.Jerry""""

Wrong...

Waivers only last for one year and are only available if the plan certifies that a waiver is necessary to prevent either a large increase in premiums or a significant decrease in access to coverage. In addition, enrollees must be informed that their plan does not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. No other provision of the Affordable Care Act is affected by these waivers: they only apply to the annual limit policy.

Key facts about annual limits waivers:

.....http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html

Health Care Waiver Program Being Ended By Obama Administration

06/17/11

WASHINGTON -- Removing a potential political distraction ahead of next year's elections, the Obama administration Friday announced an early end to a health care waiver program that has come under fire from congressional Republicans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/17/health-care-waiver-program-obama_n_879515.html

cronyism.. stop grasping for anything.. even if its irrelevant.

But since you brought it up...Rumsfield, Sadaam Hussein, Cheaney, The Bushes, Haliburton.. cronyism in the worst way.

I would actually agree with the right on this issue, if you were more consistent. George Bush was the king of cronyism.

FYI - Obama just addressed this in the state of the union , and proposes to make it illegal for politicians to personally financially benefit from their government position (i.e. like when George Bush put a guy in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency that had been fighting the EPA for years. Once he was in the power position, he changed the rules to benefit him financially). That is more than I have heard out of any Republican (other than Ron Paul).

^ Man, how do you people multiply so quickly?

Jeffrey,,,, This is about Hoekstra,,,, Do your dishonorable bitching someplace else

Jeffrey,

It's refreshing to see that there are still Bagger Birthers out there! Sheesh, get a clue!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Ask Parks his thoughts on aliens. Not the kind from Mexico, the kind from outer space. He believes he has been visited. I kid you not

How's that crack cocaine habit working for ya?

Jeffrey D Parks: There is nothing cute about being dumb and ignorant at the same time.

Somebody call the mental hospital and advise them that we found Jeffrey Parks!!! He escaped and is in his mother's basement using her computer to spew hatred and misinformation...again!

Leave Jeff alone.. his daily 15 minutes of computer time are almost up....

Bush attacked his on country 9/11

Bush was a part of an inside job.

Oh, thank you! I thought you lunatic Birthers had gone the way of the passenger pigeon and the ivory billed woodpecker! So nice to see that you're still out there prompting normal people to associate your lunacy with the Rebpublican party so we won't have to work so hard in the next election. By all means, keep it up! Don't forget that Obama is a socialist and that he took a secret oath to serve the bidding of the United Nations!