Well, well, well, last night we got to see the consequences of Citizens United up close and personal!

Willard managed to buy a victory for the bargain price of a cool $16 MILLION dollars OR $320,000 per delegate.

What a deal! Especially for Willard who personally makes $57K per day!

"I'm a tough guy, really I am", says Willard. "I have lots of money and I know how to use"

Raining millions of dollars down onto the State of FL finally allowed Willard the knock-out punch he's been desperately seeking.

The good news is the GNOP blood-bath is far from over… they have already started feeding each other to the lions! lol

I have plenty of *popcorn* to take us well into the spring! ;o)

Shoot... when one man can prop the Newster up with a cash injection what would anyone expect...

I said it last year that the GOP was going to open the largest warchest ever and man was I right, they are going to hold no bars when it comes to their attempts to defeat President Obama. They can't stand the notion of him being there for 8 years... black people rescuing the nation, the noive of it!!

Republicans seem to be all in for letting corporations and the very rich buy elections.

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And how is that different than Dems letting unions and very rich Hollywood elites and George Soros types buy elections??

This is what Mitt Romney said:

"I'm not concerned about the very poor... We will hear from the Democrat party, the plight of the poor... You can focus on the very poor, that's not my focus..."

Q: Then why did he hand a wad of cash over to a woman in front of all the cameras?

I guess having a President of the United States who doesn't care if a poor person eats, has a place to live or can get medical care is okay.

Most of these poor people are children. And what he is saying basically is – I don't care if they live or die.

Andrew Sullivan on Romney's speech last night:

This speech is most dishonest, manipulative, disgusting series of lies I've heard in a very long time.

Charles Pierce:

It was how Romney delivered the speech that was so revelatory. This is a rich kid who likes flogging The Help. There were just enough ****-eating, country-club grins as he delivered his rancid material to show you what the guy must have been like in those golden moments when he realized that there was more dough in wrecking a company than in investing in it.

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Despicable man Romney is. Despicable human being. He hates all that made America great. And for all his money, he hasn't given one thing back.

Not one museum, not one school, not one hospital, not one fixed bridge or road.

Nothing.

He just hide his money. Wealth is supposed to be used to build America, not sit back and watch as the poor are ignored.

betty, I bet Illinois could use that 57k a day to pay off your debt, but guess what, this is America and you get to keep what you earn here. You want to spread the wealth go live in Europe, look at well it is working out for them. Bend over here come higher taxes at ya.

Gingrich was a totally EASY TARGET !!

Gingrich was like a smorgasbord of negativity to choose from.

That strategy will not work against Obama whose numbers are now rising rapidly in the polls.

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"Government is not broken, it is bought"

Romney SuperPac money (from today's Daily Rundown) $17.9 million last quarter

Seven people donated $1,000,000 and 60 gave > $100,000 each

1/3 from Big Wall Street groups...hedge funds, private equity, etc

Well, it's getting even more interesting. Willard's Group were predicting a 20-30% margin of victory over the Grinch. What did they get? 14%. Not the knockout punch they predicted and hoped for.

All this did was "tick off" the Grinch, the T-Party, the Evangelicals and a lot of Independants. Not a good sign Willard.

Will The Grinch drop out? Never. He'll continue to fight on, dragging Willard further into the mud until he has to go up against President Obama. Willard will be so bloodied and bruise by then that our President will rip him to shreds. I love it.

Obama in 2012.

Dennis, Feisty, good points. Reading the thinking of Romney and the amount he spent in Florida is discouraging that's for certain but it should be no surprise since his goal at Bain was not to improve profitable companies but to drain them dry and leave them to die; he took the same approach to Gingrich.

Albany Joe, it's different because WE know who gives the money because you just named them. Who is giving the money to Mitt Romney? We can assume but we do not know who. The only reason we know who gave $5 M to Newt is because it slipped out.

Dennis,

"Mitt Romney: “We’d be a lot wiser to say you can give what you’d like to a campaign. They must report it immediately.” (12/21/2011) Tim Pawlenty: “The better position is to allow full and free speech in whatever form, but have instant disclosure.” (1/21/2012)"

Well ,Romney has shaken the Florida dirt off his leather loafers and will be in MN this afternoon with his NBFF Tim Pawlenty.

Mr Pawlwnety can talk about campaign contributions, free speech all he wants.

I hope in his introduction of Romney this afternoon, He reminds the "grass roots" that Romney's weathly donors gave their max of $2500. each to help reduce Pawlenty's $435,000 campaign debt to a more managable $103,000.

Maybe,Romney will be bring more check for his NBFF this afternoon.

Big money Romney donors include Spencer Zwick, venutre captial fund creator and friend of Tagg Romney; R. White and Steven Barnes executives at Bain; and Renee and Gary Morse owners of the Villages in Florida; Mel Sembler ,Floirda shopping tycoon; J.Willaard MarriottJr.;pharmaceutical heir Robert Johnson.

Watch to see if Bachmann, who is over $400,000 in debt suddenly finds the light and endorses Romney.

Money cannot buy you love, but it can buy you a clear field and future loyality.

Joe,

“And how is that different than Dems letting unions and very rich Hollywood elites and George Soros types buy elections??”

They are under the same rules today as the rich and corporations are today so that would change if the laws are changed – something to consider – be careful what you wish for.

You name Soros while the Koch brothers are each richer than Soros and combined have nearly 3 times the wealth of George Soros.

@Joe in Albany

Issa is a first class Ahole who doesn't care about America or it's citizens. His only goal is to find dirt on the President and give it to right wing hacks.

That being said, the Repuglitards are going to loose big in 2012. They will loose the temporary majority they had in the house. They might even loose a few seats in the Senate.

I don't want a president who think uber rich people like him, the 1% of 1%, should pay taxes at lower rate than middle class.

Pat Boston, well said and thanks for posting the comments from journalists. I could not listen to Romney's speech after the first few minutes. It disgusted me to hear one lie after another. I walked out of the room. The man is not just robotic in his demeanor, he is inhuman, devoid of compassion, and is contemptuous of "the least among us".

Going negative against Gingrich works.

and he has given his opponents plenty of ammo.

Republicans seem to be all in for letting corporations and the very rich buy elections.

There is nothing unusual about that. Hell, they've been doing that for years.

The GOP "Being a Corporate Shill is Hard Work".

Obama/Biden 2012

@Joe in Albany

These leftuously indignant Barry-worshipers also see no problem with supporting the first ever $1 billion Presidential campaign to buy the White House for them.

The difference is, his Billion came from hundreds of thousands of middle class people. Romney's Billion (if he can even get that much money) will come from a dozen or so people who want to buy the government.

Romney = corporate welfare queen who should be investigated for hiding money in offshore accounts.

Joe in Albany

Well, well, well, last night we got to see the consequences of Citizens United up close and personal!

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We sure did. We got a chance to see Newtie go from sweet to sour on Citizens United amongst Newts numerous whines about his losing.

Well, well, well, last night we got to see the consequences of Citizens United up close and personal!

Can't wait to see MSNBC counting out all the millions Obama will spend out of his *Billion* on negative ads in all *57* states.

Not. We all know that will never happen.

I'm sure our revolutionarires didn't fight and die just so the rich could buy these government positions in order to give themselves and political lackeys all kinds of taxpayer gimmes!

The citizens will eventually bankrupt themselves and destroy this once great nation of the many who fought hard over a very long period (150 years) to chip away at the very chains that once bound them to government oppression through slavery, inservitude and suffrage! Blacks are no longer slaves because they fought long and hard for their basic rights of citizenship. Women can now vote because they too fought hard for their basic rights of citizenship. ALL men and women regardless of race, color, sex or creed can earn a decent days wage for an honest days work instead of toiling for long hours in mills, mines, fields or sweatshops under very harsh conditions because those in the Union fought long and hard for your labor rights.

Sadly, the People have forgetten the inherent DANGERS of Governments that have never been in the business of giving rights, but taking them away, little by little, and before everyone knows it, there will be nothing left to take. BIG SIgh

Money is buying elections...... How sad!

I think the democrats mantra should constantly be - "Republicans Lie"....say it loud and say it often!

1. Come on MSNBC commentators (especially Chris Matthews) and others:
2. There's good reason why the negative ads work against "Family Abandoning" Gingrich
3. and more good reasons why they work on "Ethics Violations" Gingrich.
4. It's not like you can say this against Romney now is it???
5. When they say there's a lot of Blingrich baggage they ain't kiddin...

P.S. Newtie seems to have delusions of grandeur similar to Muammar Gaddafi especially in his last days. I think we'll pass...

I don't want a president who think uber rich people like him, the 1% of 1%, should pay taxes at lower rate than middle class.

Only the 1%, the RWNJs and the rubes (a.ka. Tea Bags) want that.

Actually that arrogant, fart-faced, philanderer is an EASY target for negative ads, and the really neat thing about it all is that Newt has spent a LIFETIME demonstrating his complete unworthiness for office. When he was expelled from the House he should have gone and stayed gone.

No FLATUS for POTUS.

Now Pat----Mitt Romney has given something---he gave his children $100 million trust funds.

P.S. What a nice story that Tom Brady and his wife reached out to our Sidney Crosby with his recovery from injuries. Very classy.

Bill in Fairfax:

"The FACTS are that in 2011 Romney paid over $3,000,000 in federal income taxes and donated over $4,000,000 to charity."

I do not consider a $4 million dollar tithe to the Mormon Church as charity. Having grown up in a heavily Mormon area, I know that Mormons only help other Mormons, and that ain't charity folks!

Lesson learned, 300,000 registered Florida Republican voters who voted in 2008 decided to vote against Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich and their childish behavior by not showing up to vote. 1,949,498 votes in 2008 vs 1,642,160 votes in 2012 with a little over 1% not counted yet. Keep up the good work and make sure to spread the love to all of the other remaining swing states.

Bill in Fairfax -- Knowing you are a fiscal conservative I find it hard to believe you would support Romney. He talks about building up Defense to levels we have never seen. He talks about additional tax cuts that will add a trillion to the deficit. And on and on. His 58 or 59 point plan is bland at best. Nothing new. What say you?

I'm sorry, did the Democrats think their candidates don't buy their offices too?

Is the memory of John Corzine still causing PTSD?

Yeah, we all know Republicans (hey, remember mayor Bloomberg? Right next door, now pretending to be an Independent...) purchase their votes. So do your Democrats. But selective memory is always used by the radicals of either side.

Try remembering SuperPACs. Try remembering that they are being funded by both sides. Try remembering that either way, your voice is drowned out by it, and even drowned out by your favorite cult political party..

There goes No Joe declaring once again that this is her country and not OUR country.

Romney can't stand the 99%ers by consistently espousing his 'let them eat cake' attitude and his acknowledgement that the rich 1% are doing very well thank you - now leave them alone.

Newt the historian consistently recreates history as he is consistently labeled 'pants on fire' for what he spews, not to mention his cheating past.

Leading GOP candidates = False Christians

Mitt Romney bastard spawn of wall street buys another victory, politics American style.

If I'd lived to be a hundred,

Thankfully for us, YOU won't!

Have you no decency?

We've been asking you the same question for years... best to tidy up your own back yard before worrying about others honey.

One more time Donna - this isn't YOUR country is belongs to all of us, whether you like it or not!

NoJo,

"The vilification of the producers in this country" You are "aghast".

No one is vilifying anyone except you.

Just following the money....

Derek: " Try remembering that they are being funded by both sides."

Yes, that's the point. It is bad for all of us, so all of us should be united against it. Why aren't we? If we ever attacked problems instead of each other, we could accomplish anything.

As long as money is power and a tiny number of people keep ending up with more of it, we will never get our democracy back.

I see betty aka fiesty has another name to use welfare queen, like one is not enough

This is the beginning of the end of the "Teaparty" and their radical agenda. The Republican Party will rally behind Romney. When mitt gets in the petty religious right will pay!!

Bill in Fairfax, you left out a very important part -- most of Romney's so-called "charity" is actually a "Tithe", which is 10% (before taxes) mandated by the Mormon church if you're to remain a member.

Churches, especially the Mormon/LDS lacks transparency as they are not legally obligated to disclose "how" it's charitable contributions are spent, yet want to retain the benefit of not paying taxes on them..want their cake and eat it all too! It's "estimated" that the LDS Church is worth 80 to 100 BILLION, yes that's a Billion with a B! I''m absolutely positive the intent of our framers was not to give tax breaks to churches so they could HORDE their contriutions, but were very actively engaged on their communities for the purpose of conducting CHARITABLE WORK! Same goes for Catholic, Christian and all other so-called religious entities that preach one thing, but do the complete opposite.

I'm pretty sure the "real Jesus" would be pretty ticked off by it...lol

no joe, no bo, nj

What an amusing post. If you really believe what you wrote, you are absolutely delusional. But I suspect you just ginned up this argument to cast the Republican Party as some kind of victim.

The truth is, it's the Republicans who contributed two words to our political lexicon: swiftboating (as in waging a smear campaign) and push polling (to use phony polling question to spread misinformation.)

The two names most associated with dirty tricks in campaigns are Republicans Karl Rove and Lee Atwater. Of course, the term "dirty tricks," as it applies to politics, originated with the Richard Nixon (R) era.

Oh, and Senator McCarthy, whose red scare tactics were the source of McCarthyism, was a Republican. Gosh, Republicans have really contributed to our political lexicon, haven't they?

Dennis,

Seriously, it kills me that you're an Ohio St fan, because I really do constantly agree with you, and I'm a Wolverine. Apparently, there's hope for the middle east. I mean if we can agree, they can.

Furthermore, no Joe, it's not okay that it costs 1 Billion to run for president, and no, this problem didn't start with Citizen's United. It started with the concept that money is speech, and no, I don't want non-profits like the NRA, labor unions, or comic book type characters (i.e. Koch Bro's and Soros) buying the office either.

If you believe money equals speech, than you believe we should be an oligarchy, here's why...

If corporations are people, to me it seems as if the court's doubling down on personhood. The individual owners/operators have their rights as people, as well as benefit from the corporations personhood. They're granted a second helping of freedom of speech and a gigantic second helping of the right to a fair say in our elections and the ability to petition government. Which basically throws out the whole concept of "endowment by a creator" and "all men being equal". It's in complete contrast to what the laws/rights of our nation are supposedly based on.

If money is speech, how do you reconcile that certain people have more access to it??? . It is supposedly part of our humanity that we are all equal under the law, but money as speech kills that idea. It increases the protection and the access to law and government of wealthier people. Money isn't given to us, by lieu of our humanity, it's earned, stolen, inherited, yada, yada, yada and the nature of the free market will always mean that we have the wealthy and the poor. If money equals speach, the poor will never have a voice, making them unequal under our laws and in our civil rights.

There's nothing sentient or free thinking about a corporation. There's nothing inherently "God Given" about money. Those are earned, not bestowed. They're puppets on the hands of their masters. Masters who already have equality and protection under the law.

If we're "endowed by our creator" and humans create corporations and money, are we than Gods capable of endowing people/things with rights?

There's too many contradictions. If corporations are people and money is speech, how can we own them? Wouldn't that be in conflict with the 13th Amendment?

Finally, let's slap some term limits on ALL elected officials, and end the gerrymandering. Than we will see a return to democrasy.

One way to protest against the Citizens United ruling would be to turn the channel every time an ad comes on. Do not answer calls from campaigns during election season. Throw away any paper ads that may come in the mail or left on your door. When politicians, individuals and businesses realize they money is going to waste maybe they will stop funding the pacs.

Haven't seen vitriol like this since the last Presidential election. Only difference is for Mitt Romney substitute Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton.

The difference is, his Billion came from hundreds of thousands of middle class people. Romney's Billion (if he can even get that much money) will come from a dozen or so people who want to buy the government.

Wrong. Most of his money came from (gasp) Wall Street.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638

I don't want a president who think uber rich people like him, the 1% of 1%, should pay taxes at lower rate than middle class.

And what is the current President doing about it? Even if Warren Buffet pays 30% that is still less than his secretary's current 35% rate.

Larry In Portland

"I do not consider a $4 million dollars to the Mormon Church as charity. Having grown up in a heavily Mormon area, I know that Mormons only help other Mormons, and that ain't charity folks!"

The NAACP only helps black people

La Raza only helps hispanics

CAIR only supports Muslims

PETA only helps animals

What is the point, one focus group is better than another?

All animals are equal, just some are more equal than others.

One way to protest against the Citizens United ruling would be to turn the channel every time an ad comes on. Do not answer calls from campaigns during election season.

OMG That's exactly what Scalia said!

“I don’t care who is doing the speech — the more the merrier… People are not stupid. If they don’t like it, they’ll shut it off.”

The Bush neocon Party of Hate & Death ... 'nuff said ...

Despicable man Romney is. Despicable human being. He hates all that made America great. And for all his money, he hasn't given one thing back.

Not one museum, not one school, not one hospital, not one fixed bridge or road.

What a pile of absolutely vile, thoroughly uninformed rubbish. The FACTS are that in 2011 Romney paid over $3,000,000 in federal income taxes and donated over $4,000,000 to charity. His adjusted gross income that year was about $21,000,000 so that means Romney forked over 35% of his income to federal taxes and charities.

Yes, Fairfax Bill, Romney did give large amounts to the Mormon church and to his private foundation. BTW, Romney gave a huge percentage of those contributions in stock. Yes, he gets a full deduction of the market value, while avoiding any of the capital gains tax on the gains. I guess even 15% tax was too much for him to pay.

That's how the rich get richer....on our dime.

I do not know why people waste time arguing over this or that political candidate. They all are in it for THEMSELVES and could care less if you eat or have medical care. They are taken care of for life, now they just have to make sure all their cronies are taken care of and that their bank accounts are so overinflated that they could live off for the next 200 years just in case cryogenics works.

Mitt is not being very Mormon, they are usually so syruppy nice that they make me gag.

By the way, the whole "money is speech" thing was invoked by Hillary Clinton in her campaign during the primaries. She also was referring back to something one of the founding fathers had said (can't remember which) when she said it. I winced. It never became an issue, but let's remember, this was still right before the big crash. I don't think the popular opinion these days really is that those with more money should ethically have a bigger voice. We all just recognize that it is so, and if anything, those who have less need more of a voice. At least that's what I gather from the Tea Partiers and OWS crowds.

Anyone who would vote for Mitt Romney for President just because our current president is black is really unAmerican, Mitt Romney belongs to a cult, Mormon Cult, He will kill Social Security, Medicaid, He will go to War while his 5 adult male children refuse to join the military, no sense letting the top 1% join while the other 98% can do the fighting and dying, If he could he would charge us for the air that we breathe, Mitt is WRONG for America

And McCarthy was just "stopping the spread of communism".

Some of you are true believers- you actually believe, because of a victim mentality, that if others have achieved more than you have, they must have stolen it from you in some nefarious way. The person who works, goes to school nights, sacrifices, builds a company, and becomes rich, is no different in your mind than a drug dealer.

You're dangerous- such thinking is, in fact, unAmerican.

Others of you do NOT think, at all. You follow what you are being told, because you are told by those on "your" side. If, for example, you are told that Mr. doe is evil, does not share his wealth, has evil designs on his community- you do no research, other than from sources that originated the claim. You simply follow along.

You are even more dangerous, and more unAmerican. Innocent until proven guilty has been turned on its head- now, people are guilty, and there is no way to "prove" their innocence.

You throw away American principals of justice in the name of some greater good- but what good remains when the nation and its principals are destroyed at the alter of one man?

So, likewise, has the media compromised its principals and ethics. In the name of preserving the person for whom they jettisoned them in the first place, they repeat talking points as if they were news, promulgate falsehoods, (the republican "establishment" wants Romney. Well, fine, but who are they, and do none of you recognize that there are primaries being voted in, not by the "establishment", but by people?), and neglect to report important news that is deleterious to the ends of their idol.

Want an example? This is a political site- where is the article on yesterday's CBO report? With its trillion dollar debt projection, its nine percent unemployment projection, its shrinking GDP projection? Is that not germane to the election? Of course not- as it will not further the aim of getting Obama re elected.

You are all so committed to preserving the Obama dystopia that you have no qualms about destroying the country in furtherance of that aim.

I ask again- have you no decency?

florida is very well known for its voter fraud ,right behind illinois.thats why ron paul didnt put much money into florida

Wake up Now!:

"The NAACP only helps black people

La Raza only helps hispanics

CAIR only supports Muslims

PETA only helps animals

What is the point, one focus group is better than another?"

Careful Wake up, your racism is showing. I give to the Oregon Food Bank. That is REAL charity. Who do you make your contributions to?

I always find it funny, when Americans accuse other Americans of being UNAmerican. The most basic tenet of America, is that it is an open market place for ideas and expressions. Ergo, the only truly UNAmerican thing you can do, is tell someone their ideas are UNAmerican.

I'm sure you buff your flag pin till it gleams before going to bed at night, NoJo, but neither does that make you more patriotic, nor does it give your ideas anymore value, than the guy who burns the flag.

Derek,

I think you're right about public opinion believing money doesn't equal speech, the problem is that SCOTUS ruled that it does. Time for a 28th Amendment if you ask me. Let's check that bull.

Larry in Portland,

You know neither my race nor religion. NEWSFLASH, No one is scared of being called a racist any more, you have over used the default term to include everyone. All I did was point out your fallacy of your argument. I have logic on my side, and you are revealing YOURSELF.

You left out my quote from the Animal Farm

Amy, you are a CHAMP! Let's just assume that nojo has NO sense of irony,...and as we proved yesterday a complete LACK of comprehension to hypocrisy.

I'd say someone woke up with the Rovian Manifesto and would like to pin it on the Democrats. Sadly, it ain't happenin'.

And THIS parrot, asking about decency? I think my sides are splitting from the LAUGH ATTACK that caused coming from her lying, cheating, despicable finger tips.

Seems someone was asking her that very question as she published a 'diary' she KNEW was intended to be private.

Really, hypocrite is too good a word for her. Vile begins to cover it.

To coin a line from one of my favorite all time movies,"...(sic-decency) I do not think the word means what you think it means..."

No joe: How and why did we get here? Well, we have a political party headed by a man many saw as transformational- without thinking, for a moment, what that transformation would look like. We have a political party teetering on the edge of extinction, or, at least, irrelevance, due entirely to its takeover by radicals uninterested in the Constitution or principals that made this nation great. A party tacitly encouraging mobs to riot, burn flags, take over private property, and generally engage in unlawful and/or anti-social activities- all in the name of preserving one incompetent fool.

The vilification of the producers in this country will soon be called by another name- Obamaism will be held in the same "esteem" as McCarthyism.

At first, I thought this was about Republicans, but I see again it's the imagination of the right-wingers. This is a real stretch, even for a Republican. lmao

no joe, - clearly you should look in the mirror when you ask "have you no decency?" My guess is the answer would have to be no. You've written posts that smack of lies and misdirection - at best. You see the facts through your own right wing slant which has no concept of accuracy or truth. And, you have the nerve to ask "have you no decency?" What a joke!

Its First Read. Its the place where the radicals from the left and the right refuse to actually acknowledge that both are pro-American.

If they weren't pro-American, nobody would care so much as to lose their minds. But that logic seems to escape the most vehement attackers here.

Derek, you're a Facist, theocratic, despot, be quiet. Just joking!!!! :)

Alan -- What really pisses me about turning the channel or not answering my phone is the fact I'm forced to!! Scalia likes the idea of these pacs and their lies I don't!!!!! Big difference.

Sarah -- Great posts!

no joe, no bo, nj

McCarthyism is ALL Republican, not Democrat. Tea Party activities are the closest thing to McCarthyism I've seen!! Making it hard for people to vote who you think will vote the "wrong" way is about as anti-american as you can get!! Tea Party Congress not compromising and not working together is about the most treasonous thing I can think of from members of congress to the american people!!!!

Have you no decency? And how did you get so freakin confused????

...and in other breaking news

"Democrats in the House clear Democratic Administration"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/us/politics/operation-fast-and-furious-report-by-democrats-clears-obama-administration.html?_r=2

The only thing this reminds me of were sycophants from the Republican party who supported Bush even when they knew he was wrong. As I said how is this Administration and it's sycophants different.

Character assassination, accusations of undermining the American way of life, vague accusations of "crimes"- all under the heading of "protecting America".

The most spot-on perfect description of the GOP/TP that I have ever seen. Thanks NJBJ. It's time you have finally seen YOUR party for what it is .. extreme McCarthyism.

Alan, NJ

That article is nothing but a smear campaign against Arizona, which the President is suing. The guns were bought in California and Texas as well, and last time I checked, the ATF was a Federal agency.

Why is it that Eric Holder pleading the fifth?

@Sarah: Apparently, I am crazy for crazy!

Establishment!!!! Both sides of it poking the others eye out while no more innocent than the accused!!!

Wake up now!:

"I have logic on my side, and you are revealing YOURSELF.

You left out my quote from the Animal Farm"

Wow, seems I have struck a nerve there, eh Wake up? Logic? Really? Comparing animals to humans? Someone needs to wake up and it ain't me.

NoJo: If I'd lived to be a hundred, I would never have believed that McCarthyism in all it's vile glory would be resurrected by a political party, yet, here it is...

You are obviously talking about the Republicans.

Takeover by radiacals, anti-social activities, contributions from the richest of the rich, McCarthyism... Yep, you're talking about the Republicans.

Have YOU no decency?

Larry in Portland,

No one has ever accused you of being well read. Google it "Animal Farm"

McCarthy was a Republican!!!! And Nixon was his aid!!! Good grief. NoJoBlowJo re-writing history - does he really think we're that stupid????

I do not consider a $4 million dollar tithe to the Mormon Church as charity.

most of Romney's so-called "charity" is actually a "Tithe"

So contributing to the church of one's choice is somehow not charity? Silly me, who knew?

BTW, Romney gave a huge percentage of those contributions in stock. Yes, he gets a full deduction of the market value, while avoiding any of the capital gains tax on the gains.

And the lucky recipient of that stock gets the full benefits of those gains, which is kind of sort of the point of donating to charity in the first place, eh? And BTW, all Americans are eligible to deduct their charitable contributions, so I guess many of us are in that tax avoidance game to one extent or another. Damn that evil tax code,.

Derek,

I enjoy my crazy smothered in a thick sauce of stupid. I like my "scallops" that way too. Hee hee hee.

Wake up now!:

No one has ever accused you of being well read. Google it "Animal Farm"

George Orwell wrote fiction. Let's deal in facts. I give to the Oregon Food Bank. Who do you make your charitable contributions to? You do give, don't you?

And the lucky recipient of that stock gets the full benefits of those gains, which is kind of sort of the point of donating to charity in the first place, eh? And BTW, all Americans are eligible to deduct their charitable contributions, so I guess many of us are in that tax avoidance game to one extent or another. Damn that evil tax code,.

Except most of us don't own enough stock to give away to charity. We give used clothing, toys, electronics, etc. that doesn't grow in value. We get a deduction for the depreciated value, not the appreciated value.

The fact is, if Romney sold the stock first, and then gave the cash proceeds to charity, he'd pay 15% capital gains tax. Instead, he avoids the tax, plus he gets the full deduction. The charity ends up with the same either way. Maybe that's the reason no Republican wants to do away with the charitable deduction, and not for the guise of being so "charitable". Is that "kinda-sorta" the idea Bill?

The vilification of the producers in this country will soon be called by another name- Obamaism will be held in the same "esteem" as McCarthyism.

Until I got to this sentence I thought you were talking about the GOP!

No Jo that rambling load of BS is just that. If you believe that then I suggest you seek professional help.

Sarah, great post at 1.48!

Bill in Fairfax -- Charity shouldn't be looked at or done with an eye to what deductions one would benefit from. Kinda negates what charity is all about......being generous to those less fortunate. Not because it puts more money back in your pocket!

most floridians are not from florida originally .. they come from all over the east coast ... their brains have not been burned by the KKK .. for most of their lives ... unlike SC where the average voter is a few % points under the average intelligence levels

Until I got to this sentence I thought you were talking about the GOP!

Devie - the utter contempt displayed and voiced by the NJBJs, Newts, and Romney's of the country towards the American working public is astounding. Notice in her rambling post that she gives all the glory to producers (code for 1%), but the actual workers that make it possible aren't worth the few dollars you throw at them to do the actual production. In the GOP/TP world, if you haven't achieved the goal of millionaire, you are a loser living off government handouts. It is a sad pathetic view of the world - a world where only greedy egomaniacs need apply.

You extremist-leftists are going to get a huge surprise this fall, when victory doesn't come as easy as you seem to think it will. 64.2% of all Americans polled think the country is still heading in the wrong direction, and more people still disapprove of Obama's job performance by a "score" of 47.6% to 46.8%. (47.6% is a very high negative number for an incumbant President.)

You can point to congress and say their disapproval number is at 82.4%. But, you forget the Democratic Party holds one of the two houses of congress. So, they are part of that disapproval number too.

Obama is going to have to answer for things such as Solyndra, and Siga.....and he's going to have to explain why his economic policies have failed. (Something his own supporters can't do.)

Can't wait to see your faces, and hear your caterwauling when the polls show Obama and Romney neck and neck going into the final week of October.

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!

Is this new ... "Negative" has worked for years ... how do you think we had Bush for 8!!!!!!!

""Fear" is right up there with negative ... remember ... Bush & Cheney kept us alive for years!!!!! Just not those that they sent to their death!!!!

Bill, your lame attempt at trying to convert a Tithe to charity is rather pathetic. A Tithe is a donation to a church to conduct its religious teaching. Charity is the act of helping another. I provide "charitable donations" directly to non-profit organizations who's sole purpose is to help others who cannot afford medical care, like St. Jude's; fire prevention and ambulance services like my local volunteer fire department does; and training dogs for our disabled veterans, etc.

Unles you can open up his church's books and show me their accounting ledger that directly shows "Romney's Tithe's" were all spent on charitable work detailing what it was used for; how the money was spent; and how many it helped---I will call it the COST OF MORMON MEMBERSHIP!

FYI -- My Uncle was a pastor and did little to no charity work for his community, only for his parishoners who suffered a casualty like fire or economic loss like a job, which mostly came from "extra tithes" donated by his small congregation. Most Tithes collected by churches go to salaries where the leaders usually live pretty large; cost of maintaining the church(es), occassionally helping out their members (or wards in mormon terms), or trying to convert more members.

At one time churches were the only charitable organization of local communities and society, hence the "tax free status", but those days are long gone.

64.2% of all Americans polled think the country is still heading in the wrong direction

This question is so misleading. It says nothing about in comparison to... or in the context of... or who holds the lion share of responisbility for... or who would turn it around...

Just saying, it's way to general to mean much.

and he's going to have to explain why his economic policies have failed

Obama's economic policies have not failed. If they had, we would be in a depression, the stock market would be at all time lows, and unemployment would be at historical highs.

Could the high “wrong direction” have anything to
do with the Congress that has 13% approval rating?

If you are standing in someones way ... how can you complain about them not reaching their destination!

The GOP (which includes the Tea Party lock stock and barrel) have been obstructionists through all of the Clinton years and even more so with (black) Obama!

I love that Feisty's comment above got collapsed, for calling Joe an idiot I guess - yet his post calling her the nasty redhead, did not? Obviously the fantasy the right-wingers have that only their posts get collapsed for no reason is just that, fantasy.

Bill Fairfax VA: do you really think the Mormon church builds roads? I think any entity that will "help" people out only IF they listen to your preaching, is not charitable at all. That's called extortion of faith. When the Mormons and Witnesses come to my door, I point to my no soliciting sign. They try to say they aren't trying to sell me anything, and I say "but you're soliciting my faith." I'm just not too keen on their brand of "giving."

Larry, Derek, Sarah, Amy B. - love your posts, also Pat Boston MA, Dennis, Columbus OH, and Feisty as always. And LouisJ - like your posts, and LOVE your avatar, LOL

NO JO: are you insane, or just stupid? Way to talk smack about McCarthyism - which hailed from your party. And Obama wanting the rich to pay appropriate taxes is somehow "vilifying" them and "threatening their livelihoods"? You are full of irony: making poor people pay those higher taxes isn't a threat to their livelihoods, I guess?

Your wrote: “you actually believe, because of a victim mentality, that if others have achieved more than you have, they must have stolen it from you in some nefarious way. The person who works, goes to school nights, sacrifices, builds a company, and becomes rich, is no different in your mind than a drug dealer.”

Well.....where do I even begin. First, nobody thinks that people who work hard don't deserve what they earn. But why shouldn't they pay fair taxes, like the rest of us that work hard but earn less? If we can afford that tax rate, people who earn quadruple what we do certainly can. And do you really think people like Romney sacrificed and went to night school to succeed? LMAO YEAH RIGHT. And while your side "vilifies" the OWS crowd and calls them "entitled"......that's ironic. We have 1%ers on one hand, with multiple houses, tropical vacations, hotel rooms that cost $10K a night, fast cars, designer clothes, plastic surgery.....and on the other hand, OWS types who want.....what? Oh yeah, a roof over their heads and the ability to take care of their family without constant struggle. Of course we think we're entitled to have an opportunity to LIVE a normal, simple life. What makes the 1%ers think they're entitled to EVERYTHING they can get their hands on? That's entitlement. I for one couldn't sleep at night, having more money than I can spend in a lifetime, while there are starving, homeless children on the streets of my town. I would feel too selfish and "entitled." But I guess you get over that, when you have money to comfort you.

You extremist-leftists are going to get a huge surprise this fall, when victory doesn't come as easy as you seem to think it will. 64.2% of all Americans polled think the country is still heading in the wrong direction, and more people still disapprove of Obama's job performance by a "score" of 47.6% to 46.8%. (47.6% is a very high negative number for an incumbant President.)

And yet, 6 months ago it was the Republicans saying it was going to be a slam-dunk. Who would of thunk the Republicans could screw that up?

Pretty clear that REAL Republicans are NoT endorsing fringe politics ...

Mitt Romney is showing us how much it costs to be 'acceptable' to Republicans ...

NewTEA Gingrich may have created his own crater - no need to go to the moon ...

The Anybody But Obama crowd are still searching for Mr. Anybody - is Ron Paul next? ...

Using 'free speech' means - quantity beats quality ...

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According to Republicans - TransCanada would be a bigger job creator than Mitt Romney ...

The Republicans do not create jobs - SuperPACs create jobs ...

To Republicans - money talks - demographics only endorse the message ...

'New' Republicans are proud they know there are 50 states - no child left behind is a success ...

Biggest 'New' Republican accomplishment is having a birth certificate - taking credit for someone else's labor ...

Since Republicans cannot find a 'good' candidate - they are running on an 'everybody else sucks' platform ...

Pat Boston MA.

Andrew Sullivan on Romney's speech last night:

This speech is most dishonest, manipulative, disgusting series of lies I've heard in a very long time.

That's a tough call. IMO, Gingrich took the blue ribbon for the most lies told in the shortest amount of time last night in his speech. Further on Romney:

Pat Boston MA.

And for all his money, he hasn't given one thing back.

Not one museum, not one school, not one hospital, not one fixed bridge or road.

That is one problem with the Mormon church. Most members contribute to charity through the church only, charity that goes primarily to members only. The exception is disaster assistance (including foreign aid--there are members around the world), for example after Hurricane Katrina. But without a doubt, prior presidents with wealth had far more compassion and concern about the well being of all Americans. And many charitable efforts and programs have been started and conducted by First Ladies (or leaders in other countries, like Princess Diana, for example).

There is so much about the Mormon faith and culture that is fine as practiced among themselves, but disconcerting to me in regard to the office of the President and leader of the free world. It's interesting how conservatives are attracted to candidates like themselves (hockey mom, Joe the Plumber, etc.) and yet will get behind someone like Romney who is so far removed from the "everymann" as to be unthinkable.

Back to the main topic... Gingrich won the "south" in Florida. Romney will have a hard time winning a general election if he can't carry the south. No Republican can win without the south. No doubt Romney hopes Evangelicals will hold their noses and vote him out of irrational hatred for the president.

Here's a far better solution: Obama/Biden - 2012!

64.2% of all Americans polled think the country is still heading in the wrong direction

That includes progressives and people like me who think the country is heading in the wrong direction because of the Do Nothing obstrucitonist Teapublicans in congress. You better look at a lot more poll results than that.

Most Americans are concerned about income inequality, and everything related to that. They want the rich to pay their fair share in taxes. They want programs for the working class such as Social Security and Medicare to be preserved and strengthened. They want labor rights protected too.

They are tired of costly wars. They want a balanced approach to the deficit, which includes revenue via fair taxation of the rich and corporations--ending loopholes and subsidies. They want the health care system fixed, financial reforms to end "too big to fail" and protections for consumers and our environment and food. They are for civil/individual rights, women's rights, the right to privacy, etc.

Tell us what part of the Teapublican platform has majority support? Tell us how the approval ratings are going for Gingrich, or Romney? Heck, most of the GOP governors who rode the hate wave into power in 2010, tell us how there approval ratings are going?

Actually, Bill Fairfax,...

Many of us would consider that $4,000,000 to the Mormons a POLITICAL contribution that should have NO Tax Deductibility.

But hey,...I think all Religious Institutions that participate actively OR passively in the political process should be TAXED!

I guess I am PROGRESSIVE thataway.

Agreed Clara - and especially the Mormon church after what they did in California with Prop 8. An extreme example of religion entering the political arena for personal gain.

http://californiansagainsthate.blogspot.com/2009/02/mormongate.html

Betty, most logical statement you have made in a long time.

@Buck Naked Sr

That's a cross, the cross on which Romney would be hung in November.

Dude, advocating the lynching of a Presedential candidate is not only racist, it's against the law.

Mitt just had SS appointed to him.

Maybe they should give you a call.

White Collar Auto

Dude, advocating the lynching of a Presedential candidate is not only racist, it's against the law.

Mitt just had SS appointed to him.

Maybe they should give you a call.

Stiff Collar

What happened did you fall on your head getting out of bed this morning?

Sorry, Bev, as usual I have no idea what you are talking about.

So, you're Ok with discussing hanging Romney?

Cause I'm pretty sure you have, in the past, made comments about racist folk who wanted to do nothing more than lynch our President.

Neither should be acceptable, right?

Feisty, saying 'x' will still get you collapsed by a certain element here.... lol

Feisty, saying 'x' will still get you collapsed by a certain element....

Shhhh... I'm conducting a little experiment! ;o)

WOW! That was the most intelligent statement you have ever said you entire time posting here. Now 25 more letters and then we can teach you actual words...

oh intersting betty redhead is now a multiple user on this site a violation of hte COH let's see how much honor MSNBC/FR has. About as much as who is in the WH I bet

Romney stated that he is "not concerned about the very poor."

Wow...if the president of the United States is not concerned about the very poor, how will America reduce its poverty level? How will this country economically, politically and socially uplift those that are trapped on the lowest financial rung? How will we avoid people slipping into poverty?

Romney just gave ALL Americans another reason NOT to vote for him in 2012.

Buck, What the hell are you talking about? The only rereg double poster around here is you.

BTW Don't bother with anymore threatening emails. I don't scare all that easy.

louisJ

Enter Mitt Kardashian

LOL, how'd like that singing Mitt did? These crazy right wing nut jobs criticize the President for every thing he does; then turn around and copy him. Lawd have mercy, even Newtie tried to get in on the act by saying he won't sing because he is not the Entertainer in Chief. Wanna bet?

Newt wishes to be the CIC and he is an evil variation of the devil singing. Sing Newt. Sing I'll fly away. We will love seeing your bruised BIG headed ego take off to the moon (metaphorically after President Obama sends you a silly milli meter longer like Aretha Franklin sings in her one of her songs.

FYI: The President is good for the economy his singing Al Green shoot up ring tone sales.

Nobody but Obama/Biden 2012

White Collar Auto

Sorry, Bev, as usual I have no idea what you are talking about.

So, you're Ok with discussing hanging Romney?

Cause I'm pretty sure you have, in the past, made comments about racist folk who wanted to do nothing more than lynch our President.

Look Collar,

I'm not surprised you don't get it since there was no mention of racism in the statement. Just like your average right wing nut job you see things that are'nt real

Neither should be acceptable, right?

Excuse me everyone ,

But I just have 4 stupid questions for today :

Why someone who is reportedly worth between 180-200 million USD ( Romney), and pays about 3,000,000.00 in taxes in one year, has the urge to be the next President of the United States earning about $ 145,000.00 a year?

The Presidential salary does not even come close to cover ( Romney's ) tax bill, even after cheating his way down to the 15 % bracket.

Is there anything else that we THE PEOPLE don't know about it?

Hasn't he made enough money through out his political career and connections and power deals yet?

Can anybody clearly see how important for Wall Street is the Presidency of the United States yet, or does anyone needs more clarification on the subject?

It's about power for his rich backers, not him. Clearly, this man is a puppet.

I would like to know why we have not seen the rest of Mitt Romney's tax returns. He is said to have given John McCain's campaign 23 years worth of returns---I'd settle for half.

yah he hemmed and hawed and delayed - to release TWO years of returns.

Barack Obama is about to enbark on another billion dollar campaign and you lefties are worried about the fraction of that the republican will raise. You sound worried and you should be. Obama is aabout to waste a billion dollars and lose anyway..

I think Newton meant to say "45 States To Go"...you know, since he didn't get the signatures needed to appear on the Virginia ballot.

OOPS!!!

IR, Dana Milbank nailed that one. Enjoyed your added thoughts, too, that last sentence describes old Newt to a T.

Da Noid, it should be interesting to see the Virginia vote since only Romney and Ron Paul are on the ballot. Just think, the VA GOP can easily pick Ron Paul as the anyone but Mitt.

"Sure, some of us are ideologically biased"

No kidding, Milibank....you partisan hack!

I am not usually a fan of Milbank; but this piece is HYSTERICAL! And yes, DaNoid, excellent point - although the signs were theoretically from the supporters? Right? We know they aren't informed enough to know the difference.

Can't help but wonder if the signs were actually 'poached' from the Romney camp by the very journalists themselves? LOL

Oh sweet spring, let the contest continue until WELL past August. And let Gingrich split the ticket as the Tea Party 'alternative'!

Just what is Newt's problem? Is he schizophrenic, bi-polar, suffering from ADD or SADD(sexual attention deficit disorder)? Go Newt, you little megalomaniac! ;-)

Obama/Biden 2012

I watched Newt's speech, thinking he would talk to the base about why a moderate won't beat President Obama and to rally around him. Instead I got a schedule of what he would do his first day in office---between the swearing in and going to the inaugural balls. I have to say my first thought was that Callista would be busy having her hair and makeup done.

Just what is Newt's problem?

Newt reminds me right now of Daffy Duck in the old cartoon Ali Baba Bunny when he finds the treasure and wants it all to himself:

(beating Bugs back into the tunnel) "It’s mine, you understand! Mine! All mine! Get in there! Down! Down! Down! Go! Go! Go! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mwahahahaha!"

He's Newt! He's the self-proclaimed heir to "The Reagan Movement"! He's entitled to be President, isn't he?

Independent Redneck Va.

The media ♥ Newt Gingrich

Newt, these are hurtful words. I speak for many colleagues when I say that we in the news media are great fans of your candidacy: of the 200 people in the room for your “Victory Party” when polls closed Tuesday night, about 185 of them were journalists.

Thanks for the link IR.

It only substantiates Newt-ron lives and speaks in a parallel universe.

I say we dedicate Roy Ayers' - You Send Me to Newt-on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7qVPFEaFX8

Clara KCMO

I am not usually a fan of Milbank; but this piece is HYSTERICAL!

Neither am I . However I noticed since he has come back to MSNBC he has changed his tune.

Clara check your e-mail box I sent you a note.

bev you ready for some more taxes to pay your states deficit? get ready here it comes

Ahhhh IR - just love you! That piece written by Dana Millbank (not my favorite) was great!

After listening to Romeny's speech last night, it occurred to me that he sure isn't worried about Newt - all that bashing on OUR president. Remarkable amount of lies - I have researched about 20% of it so far. But no sense bringing them up. I have been posting here for over 5 years now and bottom-line no one will ever change their way of thinking. It is the same stuff over and over again.

Obama/Biden 2012

Keen analysis.

And to add to one particularly interesting statement you made Jody, Romney spent his money and his time focused on those areas in which he could win, the more moderate ones.

This is all representative of how Ramney would run the country. Pointless spending while lining his own pockets. I'm sure President Obama will point all of this out come debate time.

I can only see it now; TEA Drinkers get together in Jethros Home and at the end of the debate when Ramney is destroyed by the President, they'll wittingly say, "Shoot! Ju see that thar, he sho did git that Socialist Mooslim Keynayshian UnAmerican Marxist Chicagee Gangsta and he got him good!! Giggidy..." SMH.

I learned that the GOP which speaks constantly of religious faith, its importance, its values and moral teachings critical to the well being of the Nation are nothing but hypocritical liars.

I know! Three quarters of the Republican GOP voters in South Carolina are evangelicals and Gingrich handily won their support? It really makes you wonder, do the churches in SC double as swingers' clubs?

Jody, Don't confuse Republican hatred for Obama's anti business policies and rhetoric for hating the office of President. In 2008 a horrible leader accidentally got elected. Unlike every other President, Obama was unable to bridge the gap of communication and cooperation with the other side of the isle. He's not going to suddenly become a better leader if he accidentally gets re-elected in 2012. Even the poverty lobby will be better off with a president that encourages them to use the great power of American capitalism to a better life. Obama has taken enough of our wealth and redistributed it unearned to the Auto Unions and Government workers.........

Bravo, Jody--thanks for putting into words what I've been thinking and couldn't express. I am ashamed at what I hear coming from the Republicans. Trying to find a ray of sunshine in all the hatred, they are doing more to galvanize the Democratic base than any Democrat could do.

UAW--I would like to take your words at face value and think that our differences are over qualifications and performance and maybe yours are. But what about the birthers, the people who call the President Muslim as if that were evil, the people who yell at him during the SOTU address, someone like Jan Brewer wagging her finger at him as if he were a 2 year old, and on and on---those folks are not differing on policy. This is blind hatred. I have an idea why.

Great analysis Jody. The GOP/TP's only consistent message is one of hate and fear. If you have lost your job, it is because a Muslim, Kenyan born black man is the president. Notice how many posters here continue to slyly push the birther issue? The coded Food Stamp president message is just another ruse, used by Newt extensively, to openly tout racism.

The GOP/TP should just openly proclaim they are the party of hate and fear. They hate anyone unlike them, and they fear anyone unlike them. Fortunately, backward minds think alike, and those backward folk all belong to one party, the GOP/TP.

Not only have I learned that the GOP candidates are consumed with hate for President Obama but I have also learned that a disturbingly huge number of GOP voters who claim to be evangelicals and Christians of various faiths are consumed with hatred for our President.

Jody, Romney can have them. We don't want them.

In 2008 a horrible leader accidentally got elected.

There was nothing accidental about the results of that election. It was clear proof that America was sick of the economic and social disasters wrought upon the American public by 8 years of tyrannical rule by Bush/Cheney.

So true Jody. Many folks on the right have never heard of fact checks and they believe all of the lies that the right wing talking heads have to say about the President. It’s so sad that many of these folks are left in the dark and let others do their thinking and lay out the views for them.

Also, I wonder how long Mitt can keep up his record primary campaign spending, because he is going to need a boat load of money to fight the President?

Hate in the base of any party will stir up the vote. And in the GOP base, while their is an overwhelming amout of hate for our president, there seems to be that same dislike for Mr. Romney. Will he be able to entice them to him and actually get out their vote. That is what remains to be seen.

The hatred for our president is what frightens me. No matter what GOP/TPer is nominated, the republican voters will be out in droves to vote for him. You can read all the polls you want about the percent of repub voters wanting someone else - it won't matter at the end of the day. While at the same time, the dems and indy's who are disappointed in President Obama because he didn't turn the mess around in 3 years will stay home and whine.

Get one thing straight, facts do not matter - hatred for President Obama is the only thing that does.

Steeler, have you seen how the Obama administration has treated Arizona on immigration? Jan Brewer shaking her finger at him like he is a 2 year old pretty much sums up the treatment you get when you disrespect the States laws. There is no doubt that Obama battles some racial issues from certain members of politics and society. Of course he also benefits from racial issues such as the near 100% approval of blacks.. I wish Obama could have done a better job encouraging certain minority members of the population to go after the American dream the way the Asians have excelled in our capitalistic society. I really beleive the country needs a better example than Obama has given us.

Thanks everyone. It seemed a perfect time to say it.

UAW, please note, I did not say ALL republicans, I said "disturbingly huge number". Sorry but no matter how you try to spin it, UAW, the GOPTP signs depicting President Obama as a witch doctor, as the Joker, as Hitler to mention the nicer ones; the constant "he's not one of us", the total disrespect shown by voters as well as elected leaders and presidential wannabees, the birthers, those who call him a terrorist, those who claim he is a Muslim where religious freedom is our right, the "you lie" disrespect, the Gingrich subtle racist dog whistles, Brewer wagging her finger in our President's face is hatred and disrespect at a level I have never seen in politics. Your attempt to claim that it is his business policies GOPers hate flies empty in the face of the facts--Obama has cut taxes for small businesses 16 times, Wall Street is booming, he has eliminated many outdated and ineffective regulations, he has signed fewer regulations into law than did George W. Bush, he has made health insurance carriers responsible to provide the health care citizens pay to receive....and the list goes on. Maybe you feel the need to defend your party, that's fine, but it might be better if you and other conservatives face the reality and get the facts before offering the excuses.

UAW---Jan Brewer has every right to disagree with the President over any issue. But whether she is right or wrong, she owed the office if not the man more respect than she showed him.

African-Americans have traditionally given over 90% of their support to any Democrat candidate---as is their right. So their support for him is supposed to counter the racism of others? It does not work that way for me. What is right is right.

Jody it's not because Obama is black. It's because he is a poor leader that so many people have no respect for him as president. Collin Powell had the respect of the Republicans and it wasnt because he was black it was due to his leadership. I think even Collin would admit now that he was caught up in the euphoria of the "first mixed race" president in 2008 and wished there had been a better leader to choose from.....

Well, well, well, .....look at all the self righteous posts referring to the hatred of our poor President. Liberals act as if you they incapable of spewing the same negative vitriol. This President will turn up venom when it is required ....mark my words. Then you all will fall mysteriously silent on the subject. Do not act so surprised you all know full well that politics is dirty business. You and your beloved leader are no different.

UAW, it is the job of the U.S. Government to investigate and fight discrimination in any form and that applies to the State of Arizona. President Obama treated Jan Brewer with respect when she visited the White House, she said so herself; don't forget, he did not have to meet with her at all but he did and he listened. When laws are written to specifically single out one segment of the population, it is discriminatory and in violation of the Constitution. It does not matter if the law was supposed to target illegals if the law ends up targeting US citizens in the process. If AZ law had required only white people to prove their citizenship and no one else, the DOJ would call that for what it is as well. President Obama has deported more illegals in his three years than Bush did in eight years, Obama has added more border security than Bush, has investigated and fined more businesses for hiring illegals in his 3 years than Bush did in 8....the facts do not support your argument or perhaps I should say, the facts do not support the excuses you make.

Jody, You know politics is about perception. People look at Obama's family living here illegally and see them gaming our system. This is probably the biggest reason people have such little respect for his policy on immigration. The strength of the US economy has more to do with how Joe citizen perceives his lot in life. Obama's first three years in office were basically a non stop barrage of rhetoric about how it's someone elses fault for Joe Citizens lot in life. Increasingly more working Americans realize taxing some one else more is not going to better them. (and 90% of Americans work and always will regardless of who is in office)

UAW, if it had nothing to do with his being black, why the depiction of him as a witch doctor, why refer to him as "Kenyan", why question his religion, why question his birth certificate when none before him was questioned, why question his grades at Harvard when no one questioned the grades of those before him, why suggest that the only reason he was accepted at Harvard was because he was a minority? You may not think he is a good leader but the facts tell us otherwise. You remind me of a family friend of my Mom who said she didn't like President Obama and quickly added...it's not because he's black which suggests it was. She could have said, I disagree with him because I'm a conservative or I don't like that he loaned the auto industry money, or whatever but no, all she could muster was "it's not because he's black".

You might also listen to what President Obama says about all Americans working hard, achieving the American Dream and adding that achieving the dream means a more level playing field, a hand up in the form of student loans, etc. He doesn't speak in terms of favoring one segment of the population over another, he speaks about ALL, speaks about us as united and working together. Too bad conservatives can't hear that message because he's a democrat and they don't like him. For 30 years the policies have favored those who already have and left the rest stagnant or struggling just to keep afloat, that's not the American Dream I remember and I doubt it's the one you remember either.

Jody, I think Obama's best chance for reelection is to play the race card. I also beleive the Republican's best chance to beat Obama is with someone like a Mitt Romney who may not have 100% of the support of conservatives. But I think they will still vote for Romney because he is a better leader than Obama has been. Obama reminds me of people who get promoted into positions and have no skill for that position.

Frankly, I would be ok if Obama got re-elected as long as he does not have a liberal majority in the House. Gridlock is simply the best choice for America right now. I will be just fine if it continues for another 4 years....

UAW: Gridlock is simply the best choice for America right now. I will be just fine if it continues for another 4 years..

Seriously?!

That's the future you want?!

Wow.

UAW, if President Obama had no skill for the position, he sure has managed to get a great deal done despite the gridlock of the GOP. Now, it is obvious that you and I will never agree but I appreciate the civil discussion today. I think President Obama was and is the right choice for this country. I believe he has achieved many things which others could not, and has helped this country emerge from the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression without any help from republicans. I am saddened that republicans refuse to acknowledge his achievements or even his ability and intelligence. I believe he tries every single day to do the right thing. I appreciate that he reached out to republicans in Congress repeatedly despite having his hand slapped every time. I respect that HE tried to keep his campaign promise to bring both sides together to work for a common purpose. Common purpose is not in the modern GOP's DNA. I do not believe President Obama is perfect, I sometimes disagree but I believe he is a terrific leader who makes tough decisions daily, one who has done his best to keep the promises he made during the campaign; he has kept many and some have been thwarted by the GOP with the help of some democrats.

I do not believe that continued gridlock in Congress will accomplish anything except more misery for the people and a greater loss to democracy. The country will decline unless gridlock ceases and once again politicians put aside politics after elections and work together to achieve success for the good of all. Compromise means both sides giving and both sides receiving; compromise is how this country came to be; compromise is what wrote our Constitution. There is no reason that republicans cannot find room to compromise; democrats have compromised often the past three years sometimes disappointing liberals in the process. I find it despicable that the GOP which previously supported a policy now says NO simply because it is President Obama proposing it. That's not government, that's not for the good of the country, that's party first. This country has huge problems and in order to solve them, it requires putting aside politics, putting aside partisan differences and finding the common purpose this country once had. Have a good day.

Still amazed at how people hate Obama more that love our Country...but have brainwashed themselves to believe that "hating Obama is loving our country" (wow, just wow). Their actions say they hate Obama more than they love God, for God is not motivated by hate. CINOs - Christian In Name Only - The GOP Evangelical Christian right have forgotten ALL of the Christian principles they say they stand for and believe:

"Love your enemies" -

"They will know we are Christian by our love"

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."

No, of course, love does not mean you have to agree with all of ANY presidents policies or even vote for him/her, however, there is a level of respect and decency for him as a person and as the sitting President. There are Evangelical Christians who are actually praying for Mr. Obama's "death, his wife to be husbandless, his daughters to be fatherless" Psalm 109 (even on bumber stickers). This is way beyond, "I just don't like his policies"...this is pure hatred and is personal. No justification. Hypocrisy at its worst.

May God's Love, Bless and Protect our Potus, First Lady and First Daughters. God Bless America!

Jody, you are my hero today. Paris, also a great addition, it is always sadly ironic how people will spout hateful words while calling themselves "good Christians."

For every dollar they spend against each other, means one less dollar spent trashing the President. Go Newt go and go Mitt go.

Job1: I wish that were true, Newt's big gambling backer spent less than 1% of 1% of his income in giving Newt 10 million dollars.

The 1% has become so wealthy under the Repubs that they can go on forever. All we have is our vote and we better work darn hard to make sure it's not stolen like they have stolen everything else.

Good morning weemee. A very good point. Thanks!

Matt, well said, so true. Weemee, ditto what Job1 said.

I wonder if Obama will run on his record or fling mud? Hmmm.

What you are closer to is another State closer to the implosion of the Republican party. The only substance these so called presidential candidates have is outdoing each other in name calling (cheater, liar). They never offer policy debates. It makes Obama look brilliant. It makes the Republican party look empty.

Obama has no chance of ever looking brilliant, the only people who think that are stupid liberal democrats, who by the way think that if you can put two sentences together you are brilliant. The people who vote for him are like zombies, obama obama obama, they were the extras in the movie the mummy, imohtep, imohtep, imohtep. Get a life do some studying, quit relying on people such as Dana Millbank or any other of the left wing zealots in the media.

Don .. thanks for proving my point that the GOP/TP is only good at name calling and horrible at policy debating. Any policy issues in your post? NOPE. Name calling, YES.

Good morning Nash,

Great research and point!

Nash, can see this point being made in a debate and in ads. Great post!

Nashville,

Keep these posts coming.

"The savings actually are wrung from health-care providers, not Medicare beneficiaries."

I heard that the HCA provided for a pilot project for a number of hospitals to lower their readmission of Medicare patients by keeping them longer on their first admission . In the long run this provides savings rather than the cost of a revolving door of re admissions..

Yor posts adds to the evidence that the GOP real agenda is to stop this president at any cost, including denying they agree with HCA law that provides for savings in Medicare program.

Nashville, amazing hypocrisy; oppose it because President Obama supports it and then propse the same thing. It's obvious, the GOP counts on their voters to be uninformed and lacking the ability to connect the dots; too bad so many of them oblige.

most likely those with a care for this country's future will vote for the REP nominee.

signed DEM Florida voter

Sure Job1, Bastions of Democratic rule like Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Atlanta and LA.

All shining examples of what the Democrat agenda has in store for the country.

I will be doing my best to make sure that President Obama wins re-election, because he is the only choice to lead our nation.

He is the only choice to ruin this nation, if you morons get him reelected then you will have to live with a much weaker nation.

We will be just fine with the Presidents leadership. He has saved us from some really bad Republican policy.

they are for a strong America

Morning phine. Thanks. Enjoy the Peace and quiet, at least until the General Election. Should be safe to answer your phone and go to your mailbox now, well, at least until Memorial Day......

Wonderful. I agree. Tell me how, Buck.

WCA,

First morning in a while the TV has been on. Of course it was on Mike & Mike, but it was on!

Phine ... that would be a wonderful thing to hear honest answers to those questions from everyone in politics. Unfortunately, so many of our representatives subscribe to the Miss Piggy thought process which she shared in a recent interview ... "Yeah, if they take what I say seriously, they've got a real big problem".

It is Diogenes looking for that one honest person, TOG.

His lamp is going to need an awful lot of oil............

Domestic or foreign oil? LOL

And I believe Diogenes had about as much luck as Sisyphus trying to push that rock up a mountain.

Hee hee hee! We have our Greek going this morning!

Always loved mythology. The gods playing with the humans makes me think of the politicians (and their super-pacs) playing with us (the voters).

TOG,

What a great analogy! And so very apt! Here's one for you, SCOTUS decision on Citizens United was the opening of Pandora's box. Can it be closed? And what will remain?

So true, Phine. What does Romney stand for? Does anybody out there know. He's being sold and no one knows what's in the package. It's quite clear what Obama stands for, it was outlined in his State-of the-Union speech.

how can we be expected to vote for Romney that empty suit.

Well weemee, you can't know what Romney stands for if this is the only place you get your information.

BTW phine didn't say anything about Romney specifically. You don't think that Citizen's United will in anyway benefit the Democrats this election? How else does one raise a Billion dollars?

Making comments like does anybody know, only shows you as an uniformed voter.

If you want to know go to his website or listen to his speeches.

Neither of which I bet you have ever done.

Here is what the average middle American, who is not a political junkie, wants to know. They want a fact sheet that I am for A, B, C. I am against (not the person or party) D, E, F. No 30 second ads, no mailers, to be truthful, no pandering speeches - FROM EITHER SIDE! Just give them the plain facts. Suprisingly, they are capable of making an intelligent choice.

WCA,

Sadly, most voters won't take the time to go to the various candidates web sites. I think this is why voter turn out is usually low in comparision to other countries. Americans feel they are lied to so much by our political leaders that it is a waste of time.

The box was closed with one thing remaining inside ... Hope. Wadda ya think Phine? Any chance that the box will ever be reopened?

Phine/TOG

It will be a Herculean effort to overturn Citizens United.

When a person’s vision of greatness is their own self, everything becomes subservient to their ego and all is diminished within their mind’s eye to maintain their place upon the pedestal. Some would build, others would destroy. Most will cast their ineptness at the feet of those who serve and those who are nonbelievers. The great unwashed political junkies below will live their lives vicariously through either their love or their hatred for that person. In-depth studies of polls show that only 10% of voters are truly independent and the psychology of the time will write the direction and level of discourse. Politics is not the art of truth, it is the art of manipulating perceptions and whatever brush works best, it is the one that will be used.

Red,

That deserves a rim shot! Pa Da Dum! Good line!

TOG,

We can only "hope"!

Ideology,

I believe even the Romans used the art of manipulation for the vote. It is an art form that has stood the test of time.

Red ... I bow to your greatness! Good one.

Ideology ... "Politics is not the art of truth, it is the art of manipulating perceptions" - what a great line! I always tried to train my employees to look at things in perspective as opposed to with perception.

Hate to leave but it's time to get lunch set up for the old-timers in the building (still can't used to being the "youngster" volunteer at age 63). Y'all hold the fort.

whale blubber killed from all the oil spills in the oceans

Buck Naked Sr.: "whale blubber killed from all the oil spills in the oceans"

And yet your party is all about deregulating more? And that will help us have less oil spills I suppose?

Unfortunately Phine I don't think most average American's want those answers they seem to prefer the "reality show" type bickering that is going on already. Those of us who DO want the answers go looking for ourselves and don't count on 30 second sound bites.

I'd also like to add Happy Anniversary Dr. and Mrs. Paul! 55 years is quite an accomplishment! Bless you both!

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_tNynEx_MRU#!

Too cute!

This is what family values is truly about.

yes, a deal will be worked out by then

I'll answer that Da Noid. Doesn't sound like either sides "supporters" really cares that much. 38% of Republicans wish they had another choice. Whoever wins the nomination is limping into the general with a dissaffected base. How jaded are Republicans, nominating a candidate even they don't particularly like?

Again with the lack of Historical perspective. It was just 4 years ago when Hillary Clinton supporters VOWED they would never vote for Obama.

Then they came out in droves and voted for Obama.

You guys really don't get that Conservatives do something very well. They vote.

And they won't vote for Obama.

Amy, no offense, but you ability to do an "analysis" of the GOP is most likely subject at best. When you use comments like "doesn't sound like" it just magnifies the fact that you get your information from a particular slant and renders it rather useless.

WCA,

Problem I see for Romney, though, is the fact that some of the conservatives I talk to will stay home rather than vote for him. (This comes from my little "focus" group. BTW, the county they live in, went for Newt)

phine, they said the same thing about Clinton/Obama at this point.

When faced in November with the prospect of 4 more years of Obama or a Republican President, they will vote.

If they are real Conservatives, just like real Liberals, they will not sit home, they will vote.

WCA,

You need to meet the "good old boys". They have always voted. They are firm believers in God, country, SEC football and NASCAR. But they are so very disgusted with the entire GOP field this time they are very serious in the thought of sitting this one out. They are the definition of the GOP conservative voter. And I believe them.

Good enough, update me in November.

WCA,

The difference between Clinton-Obama in 2008 and Gingrich-Romney in 2012 is that the rift between Clinton and Obama was never even close to the rift that exists between Gingrich and Romney. Gingrich and Romney DO NOT LIKE each other. While Clinton and Obama were able to keep their rivalry professional, with Gingrich and Romney this is personal.

Da Noid,

What I am seeing and hearing from my little corner of the world is not only a deep dislike and distrust for Romney, but for the entire GOP field this time. I am a fascinated observer here in all this and wonder how all this will end up playing at the GOP convention.

I thought that Hillarity (with her sense of entitlement) brought the Primary process to new lows. But it now appears that Gingrich (another fart-faced politician with a sense of entitlement) will seek even lower lows.

Did he dodge any bullets in Bosnia? Oh, right, that was when he was trolling for hookers in D.C.

No Noid, it's not different.

Only in a slanted viewers eyes.

You all seem to keep making the mistake of comparing Clinton/Obama the candidates with Romney/Gingrich the candidates.

I am comparing the VOTERS. It doesn't matter how much the candidates hate each other. The voters will acquiesce to either for the purpose of electing a Republican President.

Just as Clinton voters gave in and voted for Obama.

No chance, we all want this idiot Hussein out of office, we would vote for Jeffery Dahmer over this fool in office.

In other words, White Collar, Republicans are willing to vote for anybody, regardless of their off shore accounts or philandering ways, for the highest office in the land, as long as there is an R after the name. I get it.

And that is why you are losing the Independents.

duval county did not, way more population in jax than st johns, november is when it counts, heck I have REP neighbors that did not vote on Tues, they are waiting for November to pull the switch against Obama.

Yes Amy, just like Democrats were willing to vote for anybody, despite their terrorist friends, racist Ministers and brutal lack of experience.

But not again, and that is why Obama will lose.

WCA, you claim to be talking about the voters. Yet you keep coming back to references to the candidates.

Clinton is Obama's Secretary of State. Could you ever see Gingrich in Romney's cabinet? Or Romney in Gingrich's? THAT'S the point.

Felden I only keep coming back to the candidates because you all keep coming back to the candidates.

You all keep missing the point.

Who cares if the other candidate is in the cabinet.

Will that effect anyones vote?

WCA, "Yes Amy, just like Democrats were willing to vote for anybody"

.....but Sarah Palin. That was the difference, LOL.

Did anyone else feel that Newt's concession speech was a thinly veiled threat to make a 3rd party run if he doesn't get the nomination?

TOG,

I caught that as well...

did you catch the debt clock for Illinois today? wow

What party would that be ?? The Career Politician Party of America. Wishful thinking on your part. (Hoping he will split the votes). Sorry... Stick a fork in Newt ...he's done. Time to focus in removing the this POTUS.

PValdes ... "Wishful thinking on your part. (Hoping he will split the votes)."

You got all that out of a simple observation? Wow, you must be some kind of super psychic.

Remember, this is Newton we're talking about. He did not invent the politics of beating your adversary to a bloody pulp but he has gained a zen-like mastery of them.

He speaks as one who feels that the Presidency is his entitlement. Do I see a "third-party" run? Not as a high probability but I also wouldn't put it past him.

TOG ...it's called reading between the lines. I could be wrong though ...I have been before. I can admit it.

PValdes ... dang, I was hoping for the "psychic" thing. Planning a casino trip and was hoping to invite you along. And I do agree with your "Newt is toast" comment, but I don't think you can put anything Newt might do off the table. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else as long as it makes sense to Newt's ego.

Pat just made the best case for Obama/biden in 2012....

Better than the moonbat spam from far left blogs that passes for political discussion in here....

I was seriously thinking the same thing. Look at all that extra cash flowing through the system in Florida. Thank you Republican Presidential Wannabees for stimulating the economies wherever you go!

Romney at laundry mats and Gingrich at restaurants.

Obama/Biden 2012

It would be nice but the money goes to the corporations owning the TV stations and radios and newspapers. I see that trickling to the executives' pockets--and we know who they support.

well the ad dollars do go to the top; but the staff and the wives eat, stay and you know, that Calista loves her some shopping,...

lol. I like a little irony with my lunch. Thanks!

Romney = The John Kerry of the GOP.

Obama = Jimmy Carter on steroids

Good one Cheryl...

ahh, so the Kenyan, Marxists Socialist is now a Juicer, too?

there is no bottom to the depths the righties will crawl to undermine our President.

(lolololololol at the idea that anyone on the Republican Presidential Primary Ballot could even come close to electable in a national contest against the sitting President lolololololol)

Good luck with that, pubbies.

Clara ...luck will not be part of the equation.

uh, eat the end of barrel one does all by yourself

I agree Feisty. I'm making it a point right now to call the US Secret Service in order to get this racist a-hole a little visit.

whoa don.........dude ....be careful. You really should not say things like that ...

I understand that this board of late has devolved into a name calling haven with very few posts of value. However, what have we come to if people like don talia spout their venom on this board? The status of political commentary on FR aside, what has become of us? Post 17.6 is criminal, hate speech

Don Talia - Have you no decency? Have you no shame?

don, I think someone's knocking on your door. Buh bye......

Yellowdog - Mark D - in answer to your question about Don Talia - I doubt he has any decency or shame..as we see most republicans, starting from the top, don't have those qualities......

but it is ok for obama to sign the ndaa and kill and toucher american citizen with no trials.(if u have 7 or more days of food,u are an terroist)

thats ok by u obama nazi cult.

and to run operation fast and furious,guns to mexico and drugs back into the us

also to have tsa molest kids and adults over staged events like 9-11

if u people havent firuged it out yet jimmy carter in 1979 created alqada by the cia,there the magic chess piece u put any where in the world to invade another country.

puppet person,

You are just another example of the people who don't perform fact checks. Please look at the record of Mr. W. Bush. and stop blaming President Obama for the failures of Mr. Bush.

Facts are facts.

i dont know how much they pay u to disinfo facts job1.but u are really awful at your job.i think u need to give someoff that money back.cause u stink there at your job kid.why dont u check some real news sites and see jed bush and the first bush and OBAMA HAVING dinner at the white house talking about the florida election.

whats the matter there kid.dont want to fight back againt someone that has facts.dont want to talk about obama cia background or his 1890 mass.social ss number or that he is in contempt of court in georgia right now.just the tip of the iceberg.and by the way- go back and tell your bosses that the divide and conquer crap(i dont like obama destroying what our forefathers build and obama is black so i must be raciest cause i dont like obama actions)doesnt fly anymore cause people wokeup to that trick

wow....

JLS

I think "Yikes" is a better word. looks like someone has pulled the puppet's strings!

Typical filth. Note that you couldn't actually come up with anything intelligent to say, but instead felt the need to denigrate people because of where they live, without knowing anything about them at all.

Is that rite ....well git redy dien ....Us "hillbillies" ain't votin fur that joke ya'll call a Prezidint a'gain....No sir eee...

You're an idiot....but you just keep being one. Thanks

@ Cheryl....I expected nothing less from this vine today...... They are afraid.

and Cheryl's dig about Obama on steroids is nothing but HIGH road, right?

you hypocrites never disappoint!

Same ol' liberal condescension and elitism we see from Obama and his groupies every day.

So now that it looks like Mitt is headed for the nomination, I fully expect all you anti-Christian liberals to start bashing away at Romney's religion. Will I be wrong to expect that? Of course not. The very same people who will stick up for Muslims no matter what, will start telling us that Mormonism is a "cult" and that Mitt is not qualified for the White House because of his religion. Just you watch.

Oh yeah we are shaking in our boots, with the bottom of the barrel candidates, the GOP has put forth! Who's afraid, the GOP/baggers, watching the blood bath, with all the clawing, tearing and trying to rip out each others throats. But if it makes you feel better. LMAO

We aren't one bit afraid of Newt or Mitt. I mean come on, the President is sharp, clean, fair, smart and a great American success story. Where as Newt and Mitt, well not such a good story.

Obama / Biden 2012

JOB1 ....he is a sharp dresser(if you like that Malcolm X look) and does a great Al Green impression .....but that's about it

WTF?

Obama doesn't even wear glasses!

The people sounding desparate here are the ones critiquing style and not substance. You can't really prop Mittens up on substance because he simply has no CORE. You go to the mat for him today on Abortion and he'll 'break your heart tomorrow'.

He is THAT transparent. This isn't complicated - It's his BIRTHRIGHT to be the nominee and therefore BUY the Presidency.

Again, good LUCK with that; because it damn sure won't be SKILL or REAL.

Mitt is not qualified for the White House because of his religion

You may be too young to remember when Democrats supported Mo Udall, a Mormon, for President....and his religion never became an issue in the Democratic primary.

PS. Harry Reid - also Mormon.

President Obama's message is always positive. Despite all efforts to the contrary, he has remained positive, upbeat, optimistic, and hopeful. His message is consistently about unity, helping the country, and working together. Trusting each other for the better of the whole, like our soldiers have to trust and rely on each other to survive. Despite all efforts by Republicans to the contrary, he has persevered, has accomplished a lot, has tried to compromise, and has done so with grace and a smile on his face.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have been negative, hateful, contrary, obstinate, have refused to cooperate on even the most basic levels, and have launched a focused effort to work against their own President. It's a wonder that more Republicans across this nation aren't disgusted with their own party's behavior. It's one thing to have different views, it is quite another to be vicious and spiteful.

Hussein ran the most negative ads in the history of elections in 2008, now you want to condemn the other side for doing the same, laughable.

He stands for fixing a broken America and it's economy...

He stands for bringing jobs back to this country ....

He stands for a productive America.......

He stands for protecting us from those who would harm us ....

He stands for everything this country used to be ......

wemee - obviously he will be for it but then against it but against being for it and for being against it....or maybe he will be against it but then for it but for being against it but also being for being against being for it......

You mean like Hussein shutting Guantanamo Bay and then leaving it open, maybe he was for and then against it, maybe he is too busy studying about all 57 states.

PValdes - nice and vague, just the way we don't like it. Next time, I guess candidates could just act like beauty pageant contestants and say "I'm for ending hunger and world peace" and that'll win you over?

LMAO

Big fan of Osama bin Laden, are you, Jeff? Personally, I kind of count his execution, eleven years after carrying out attacks on our country, as, you know, a positive thing.

The I4 corridor independents voted for Obama. This year, they went big for Romney. Obama is losing the female vote as moms all over America are waking up to the fact that their kids own the govenment 50K each AS OF TODAY.

@ 3rd ......ding ding ding ....we have a winner !

Try to spin it in your direction if you want, but when it comes down to it Obama WILL win. He is leading in just about every poll and hasnt started campaigning yet. The republicans will get their man and then Obama will start hammering on that person and will pull away. Plan on there being a republican spoiler in there as well ensuring an Obama win. The republican candidates hate each other and will destoy each other if they cant have the presidecy to themselves, thus handing Obama the win.

Just remember this, even if you don't believe it: If he wins reelection, he may be the last and preside over the break up of this nation. He is the most divisive president since the Civil war.

danangel, just keep smokin what you are smokin and let the big people talk.

My kids own the government for $50k - where do I sign up?

royalstar05 As I said above, I am not trying to convince anyone, I just want you to remember you heard it here. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it, especially those who deny and revise it. I hope I am wrong about this time, but throughout human history: as soon as a civilization believes it can't happen, that is when it does.

Excuse me Mr. or Mrs 3rd,

You do understand that Florida is a closed primary state, don't you? These were people who had to declare Republican. As analysts pointed out, central Florida is more moderate (which can be defined as a little smarter) and given the choice between Obama and Romney it's unlikely they will not see through the vitriol that is so effective with the righties. Obama has very real positive results to talk about, unlike the Republican negative messages we're all getting rather sick of.

Hey. Since everybody's making predictions. What do you think the chances are that there will be violence and riots if Obama loses in November? I think it's almost assured, especially if it's a really CLOSE loss. I'm wondering if this is why gun sales are UP everywhere.

Geez don, what are you trying to say here? I hope you dont have any guns. I will keep a lookout in the papers for your name. There sure are some loons out there.

Don will be going to jail soon.

Guns to protect themselves from the outraged and pissed off Obama groupies. Remember; to you people, Obama is the King, and if he is NOT re-elected, it means that your "king" has been deposed. Liberals sense of entitlement at the expense of others extends to Obama's presidency. He is entitled to be there according to you people, and anybody who doesn't agree is a villian.

Trust me. When he loses in November, there will be violence. There is a recent history of riots and poutrage among large parts of the Democrat base when things don't go to their liking.

Is it really necessary to go there, Damage? And they call Democrats "divisive."

Can we get Don off this board?

Dont worry about Damage, Amy. He is just a hater. Scare tactics just like the jugheads that run his party. Its all they have so let them use it. We Dems know better.

Right, you dems know better. Let me see if I can recall just a few democratic scare tactics....The world is coming to and end quickly if we don't send all our money to Al Gore and the Democrats so that they can stop global warming---Republicans want dirty air and dirty water----Romney wan'ts to hurt poor people.

Give me a break. Romney donated 20% of his income to charity (look at his tax returns). Private charity unlike government run programs actually give money to the poor. Government programs are run by the bureaucrats for the bureaucrats and for those who game the system and commit fraud.

If Obama socialist policies are so wonderful why are the socialist countries in Europe on the verge of financial collapse---hint once you liberals confiscate the wealth from the one perecenters there is no more money to invest and create a middle class--even China understands this better than Obama and encourages the one percenters to invest there instead of demonizing them and trying to confiscate their money.

If you could actually bring your self to leave your fantasy land and look around at the real world and what is happening there, you could no longer support Obama and the policies that have a crystal clear end point, they end at Greece. Doing the exact same things that produced Greece and the financial collapse of other EU countries and expecting something different to happen here is not very intelligent.

Romney, just like Obama, is one of the one percenters. He is just a lot more successful than Obama and he earned his money by actually earning it, not by being a politician or a community organizer. Sorry but a community organizer isn't going to have a clue how to fix our broken government and repay this $16 trillion dollar Debt (A third of which was created by Obama). Obama wants to continue down his merry socialist program spending road while we end up like Greece, or Spain or Italy, with 20% unemployment and riots in the streets. I am completely amazed that you people have no ability to see and understand the real world.

Boyd, get off the one hitter. When you called Obama a socialist you lost your republican thug credability.

Boyd: "Romney donated 20% of his income to charity" - to the MORMON CHURCH. That's classified for taxes as a charity, but I wouldn't define it as one practically speaking. Mormons helping other mormons or people who will listen to mormons preach, doesn't qualify as "giving" in my book. As I said above, I call that extortion of faith.

"once you liberals confiscate the wealth from the one perecenters there is no more money to invest and create a middle class" who said anything about confiscating the wealth? Nobody wants to pull a Robin Hood here. I'm sorry, but 70% of millions (after 30% paid in taxes) is quite acceptable - I know I'd be thrilled to have 70% of Romney's income. That's plenty of money to invest.

The biggest reason for the voting difference is that the average IQ in Florida is 20 points higher than in South Carolina.

Boyd, it is amazing that a nut-job like you thinks you do understand the world. You obviously don't even understand what socialism is. What you call socialism has been practiced in this country for more than 80 years. Apparently you gained this wisdon in your job at McDonald's as a fry cook.

I guess you forgot all that was said during the Democrat primay of Obama, Biden and Hillary. Get real. Both side do it.

*The presidency doesn't lend itself to on the job training*. Joe Biden Presidential canidate.

And Joe was correct.

Nope, just the repugnantcans, HEY, thats a new name for em!!! They been doing it sense the days of tricky dick(nixon). But it's getting old....

I was about to reply to this meaningless "article" by National Bs Company but see that so many non working class have bought into it, I decline. I do not do a battle of wits with the unarmed.

Mike-2594304

I was about to reply to this meaningless "article" by National Bs Company but see that so many non working class have bought into it, I decline. I do not do a battle of wits with the unarmed.

Good strategy Mike. An unarmed person would kick yer butt. Better to find yourself a blind deaf quadriplegic unemployed gay black Mormon living on food stamps who supports a woman's right to be in control of her own body. I'll bet you and Jesus might have a decent chance under those circumstances.