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Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney speaks with the media after a visit to his campaign headquarters on January 31, 2012 in Tampa, Florida. Romney has a double-digit lead going into the Florida primary today.
TAMPA, FL -- Mitt Romney on Tuesday defended the increasingly negative tenor of the GOP primary campaign, telling reporters that he would not "stand back" as other candidates attacked him.
"It would be wonderful if campaigns were all nothing but positive, but that's certainly not the reality," Romney said at a press availability outside his headquarters here. "President Obama will have a billion dollars or so to attack me. He's already begun. The AFL-CIO I understand spent about a million dollars in Florida attacking me. So there are going to be attacks, and the right thing to do will be to respond to them aggressively, clear up those things that have been said that are incorrect, and point out the weaknesses-- the differences between yourself and those that you're running against."
Romney also defended his own negative attack ads and rhetoric targeting former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with the political equivalent of the playground "he started it."
"You know, in South Carolina, we were vastly outspent with negative ads attacking me and we stood back and spoke about President Obama and suffered the consequence of that and also some good debates by speaker Gingrich. We came to Florida and Speaker Gingrich didn’t have two good debates. I did. and we responded to the attacks that were coming to us," Romney said.
That would seem to be a bizarre claim at first glance, given the Romney campaign's status as the richest of all the candidates. The campaign has spent millions throughout the campaign, as has Restore OUr Future, a pro-Romney super PAC. NBC News and ad-tracking firm Smart Media Group Delta, which tracks ad spending by political candidates, reported that Romney and Restore our Future outspent Gingrich and his Super PAC by more than $2 million dollars in South Carolina.
The Romney campaign explained the governor meant they were outspent versus all the other candidates' combined spending.
"I’ll tell you if you’re attacked I’m not going to just sit back I’m going to fight back and fight back hard. I did note that in the Suffolk University poll they asked the people in Florida who has run the most negative campaign in Florida and they said Newt Gingrich," Romney said, referencing a poll which showed 37% of Floridians felt Gingrich ran the most negative campaign, compared to Romney's 31 percent. "He really can’t whine about negative campaigning when he launched a very negative campaign in South Carolina and when the people here in Florida looked at the different campaigns and concluded his was the most negative."
Romney certainly has fought back -- over the airwaves, on the stump and with his surrogates.
Romney's campaign and Restore our Future outspent Gingrich and his allied Super PAC Winning our Future on advertising by nearly a 4-1 margin here, with team Romney spending $15.9 million to team Gingrich's $4 million. Romney also spent the better part of the last two days opening every campaign event by attacking Gingrich, and several of his congressional endorsers have shadowed the former speaker's campaign events, where they've occasionally clashed with Gingrich staffers in what Romney advisers refer to as a "truth squad" operation.
With a spate of recent polls showing Romney expected to coast to victory here tonight, he conceded today he will soon need to pivot his focus back to President Obama, but also left no doubt he'd be keeping up the pressure on Gingrich going forward.
"I would like to spend more of our time focusing on President Obama. That's ultimately what's going to be essential to taking back the White House," Romney said. "But I'm not going to stand back and allow another candidate to define me. [Gingrich's] comments most recently attacking me have been really quite sad and I think painfully revealing about the speaker and what he's willing to say and do to try to take the nomination. So I just can't stand back and let him say those things about me without responding."
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Whatever you do Willard...
For the love of God - please don't sing again!
Not only did your rendition of 'America the Beautiful' sound like a cat in heat - it caused my ears to bleed!
Many thanks in advance for your cooperation!
PS: Compare Willard's 'hot mess' to President Obama crooning, "Let's Stay Together"...
"I would like to spend more of our time focusing on President Obama. That's ultimately what's going to be essential to taking back the White House," Romney said
Actually, Willard all you do is focus on President Obama because you are afraid your vulture capitalism will expose you.
As you right wing nut jobs say-- " He has no record of his own to run on"!!! Just for the record, that's Willard Mitt Romney.
Seems Noot is in hot water over the use of "Eye of the Tiger"... his defense is that "Eye of the Newt" is out of print.
What is it with Conservatives and intellectual property? Maybe it's just that they're not that "intellectual"?
Conservatism is a mental illness, after all.
Mickey, NY
Seems Noot is in hot water over the use of "Eye of the Tiger"... his defense is that "Eye of the Newt" is out of print.
What is it with Conservatives and intellectual property? Maybe it's just that they're not that "intellectual"?
Conservatism is a mental illness, after all.
Especially, Noot who thought memorizing the dictionary and lying about being a historian made him intellectual and brilliant. ROFL
Howdy Bev...
Then there's this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/fact-check-gingrich-flubs-history-gop-debate-15426414
And just so the moonbats can't accuse me of posting a "librul media" site:
http://www.fox43tv.com/dpps/elections/president/gingrich-flubs-history-in-gop-debate-nt12-jgr_4051459
Gingrich is as easy a target as Mittens is!
interesting that Romney knows the America the Beautiful, Obama on the other hand probably thinks it is a game show.
Illinois debt clock has it exploded yet bev and feisty?
Well, I knew sooner or later someone would come up with the Rocky III story.
So damn predictable.
This is always nothing more than an irrelevant act trying to become relevant again.
They should all take Kid Rock's philosophy when Romney asked him if he could use Born Free:
"He and anyone else who wants to use my song do not need my permission. I said he could use it and I would say the same for any other candidate. I have to have a little faith that every candidate feels like he or she can help this country. Without faith, we got nothing. I make music to have it be heard.
Of course, Kid Rock is not an old irrelevant singer.....
Hey Nut Baked Sr - just can't get off that birther issue, eh? You and Donald Dumpster ought to get a room, get buck naked, and par-tee down to the tunes of the birther movement.
WCA,
Was Kid Rock married to Heather Locklear or Pamela Anderson? (And I may sound like a fuddy duddy, but I just never got into his music, but hey, you like what you like)
Red,
Mexicanadian. Ask Ideology about it.
Romney's choir misses him ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGhsaXslx8
Difficult for Willard to defend the 'tone' of the FL primary when someones as 'tone deaf' as Willard is! ;o)
Feisty, Yes Mitt does have a terrible voice but at least he knew the words.
I am enjoying the wrestling match between Newt and Mitt. They are giving plenty of material to the Obama campaign. I will find it annoying when they get to my state and shovel negative ads at us though. Then they should play nice.
phine, it was Pamela Anderson for about 5 months.
Dude knows how to have fun.
Phinephancy, Pamela Anderson
WCA & lisa,
Thanks. So, who was Heather Locklear married to? I thought he was another bad boy of rock?
Phinephancy, I think she was married to Richie Samboro {Bon-Jovi}
How convenient that Mr. Romney forgot that it was he who went all out negative in Iowa when Newt led the polls. Remember, at that time Newt had said he would run a positive campaign until he found out that against Romney, that wasn't going to be possible.
Mitt Romney singing America the Beautiful isn't likely to impact music sales. Really, bad.
I can never keep up with who is with whom. LOL
I realize I was late to the discussion table on this thread but for a few seconds I thought I had landed on some Hollywood gossip blog instead of a political one.
I wonder where the nut job from NJ is?
This is right up her alley - a cross between Tiger Beat & the National Enquirer! ;o)
Jody, Iowa, Sorry to confuse you Jody I was just answering a question.
WhiteCollarCriminal:
[They should all take Kid Rock's philosophy when Romney asked him if he could use Born Free]
Really? You miss the point as usual...Romney asked...NEWT DIDN'T...that is the whole point about using someone else's property without asking.
What else is new - remember the McCain campaign?
They were receiving cease & desist orders daily from the recording industry!
Crooning?? I think not...well...I can think of one profession that Obama won't be persuing when he isn't president any longer...
No Mickey you missed the point.
Kid Rock said he didn't have to ask. No one did.
I have to have a little faith that every candidate feels like he or she can help this country. Without faith, we got nothing.
It's called taking the high road.
Something you seem to know very little about.
I believe Obama feels he can help the country. Unfortunately he is absolutley clueless.
Aww...poor WhiteCollarCriminal...still doesn't get it.
Good God, you're an idiot.
WhiteCollarCriminal,
YOU advocate the TAKING of someone else's intellectual property without permission, and I'M the idiot?
The key provision is that GINGRICH DIDN'T ASK for the use of the material...besides it being something as simple as common courtesy, it's AGAINST THE LAW.
Keep reaching for those stars...
Conservatism truly is a mental illness.
white collar - I'm not a fan of Kid Rock, but I have to say,I am very impressed with his statement.Wow
Mitt: Singing a patriotic song while keeping your money in Cayman and Swiss banks, tax shelters, does not make one a patriot.
Willard sings that song about every stop, for some reason the media decided to take notice this time. I don't know why though the guy can't sing.
Defending the negative tone? Teapublicans, get something straight -- In 2008 the president and Clinton got ugly, but it was about policy, for example who voted for the Iraq war. What Gingrich and Romney are getting ugly about is who is the bigger crook -- Very telling about where the GOP/TP is at (in the toilet).
Obama/Biden - 2012!
redev where in my collapsed statement did I mention birther comments?
"I'm a tough guy, really I am", says Willard. "I have lots of money and I know how to use"
Hey Mitt/Willard whatever, sometimes when you win, you really lose..think about that.
You are just not authentic, no matter what you say. You have spent over $16m for just 50 delegates, given your background, how do you think this looks to the middle class? Or do you even care?
Willard equates being 'tough' to money!
Guess when you have thugs like the Koch Brothers & their checkbook in your back pocket it might ring true!
Willard is going to be facing some big problems this primary season, as the dirt continues to come out on him.
Has anyone figured out how much Romney has spent running for President over the last six years?
Well he should put some of that money of his towards music lessons because it sure is tough listening to him sing!
and just like the Donald -probably none of the money being spent on a Presidential run is his own.....it's always someone elses dime....or 10k as it were....no wonder he makes 57k a day.....wouldn't a lot of unemployed people like that gig.....
Has anyone figured out how much Romney has spent running for President over the last six years?
Has anyone figured out how much taxpayer money Obama has pissed away over the last three years?
Shouldn't the second question be of more concern?
GBM, well said. Romney's problem is that no one trusts including a lot of republicans.
Rob, apparently you have not bothered to figure up how much money the GOP blew over 8 years. President Obama hasn't wasted money except to fight the two wars HE didn't start. You really need to look at your own conservative politicians before throwing stones at President Obama and democrats. I'd suggest you start with Ronald Reagan's deficit and debt, work your way to Bush 41 and then take a good hard look at Bush 43.
Well, GBM----that works out to $320,000 per delegate in FLorida. Almost 6 days' income for Mitt per each delegate. I'll bet he wishes he could have outsourced the process hired some delegates for a lot less if he had just paid them himself.
Thanks for taking the time to break down the numbers SF!
Gives it a whole new prospective!
Maybe Mittens should try defending RomneyCare, Bain Capital, Cayman Island banks, vulture capitalism, being taxed at 15%...
...oh, and A really, REALLY bad butchering of America the Beautiful...truly pathetic...even the damn dog tried to hide behind the toilet...
It's ashame that Obama's only talent is to sing Al Greene songs. CBO released some interesting news today. Unemployment is really at 10% and of course the debt....
To put this in some perspective, by 2017, annual interest payments on the debt would begin to rival and soon exceed what Washington will be spending on Medicaid, the state-federal healthcare program for the poor and disabled.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/72205.html#ixzz1l3khG7eu
Come next january when he's tossed from office Obama can follow up on his only demonstrated talent and try out for the X Factor. As a steward of our economy the man is a DISASTER.
Aww...poor Raab can't sing and Obama can...
Trust me Raab...you guys have bigger problems than Health Care Reform. The Conservative movement in this country has problems with HAIR on them...
I don't know Rob, did you see that the CBO says our taxes are going up over 30% in the next two years? I'm sure the 45% that don't pay really gives a sh*t. You think MSNBC will run a story on that or about how Corzine donated $500,000 to Obama's 2012 re-election or that it's un-American to add another trillion dollars for the 4th year in a row? It's easy to do when you can't come up with a budget for over 1000 days.
The Conservative movement in this country has problems with HAIR on them...
Yeah,
I'm sure the independents are please as punch with progressives trashing the City Hall in Oakland, rioting in the street, and burning the American flag.
You're dribbling your koolaid again there, Mick
Nice deflect Raab...if you don't want to talk about the "conservative problem" in this country, you should just say so. But I get it...talking about the conservative problem is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end, right?
Paul, that 30% tax increase you're speaking of is if the Bush cuts expire after 2012.
"conservative problem"
Enlighten me, Mickey. Please tell me about the horrors of a balanced budget, smaller government, and lower taxes.
Raab,
Those "things" will never, EVER happen, and you know it. Reaganomics made sure of that. What you see happening now is the direct result of 30 years of Ronnie Raygun's Alzheimer-ridden dreams. Conservatives and Republicans alike, and now even the "Tea Party", have an image problem, and THEY created it. In case you haven't noticed, the gap between rich and poor has steadily widened in the last 30 years...
They have created a monster, and the only way to stop it and regain some respect is to change course. This will never happen.
...like I said, Conservatives have problems with hair on them...
Oh Pullllleeeeezzz Robbie!
The entire WORLD has seen what Republican/Teanuts mean when you talk about "balanced budget" by what you did in 2001.
Now you want to do it again????
TAKE A HIKE!
[ / ]
Yeahhhh...what he said!
Ryan,
Yes, you're correct. So how will that affect the middle class? I recall someone saying that the middle class will get a tax break? Maybe I heard it wrong, but you know what I would like to see? The 45% to pay something!! Fair is fair right? Isn't that Obama's battle cry? What's a $20, $30, $50? I'm sick of paying taxes to see it pissed away for BS programs like making a turtle tunnel, seeing if monkeys are addicted to cocaine.
Don't pass a budget you get what's been going on for the last four years. I guess if you live off credit cards and live pay check to pay check I guess you will never understand.
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Romney equates corporations to people so why not money to toughness . . . ultramarroon!
Malibu Mitt and Nasty Newt are unworthy of the office of president . Both make a mockery of the highest office in our country .It bothers 88% of the people in the USA that this office is being bought by the highest bidder . As the congress and the senate sit back and say nothing.This just proves we need to get rid of everyone , VOTE EVERYONE OUT !
Malibu Mitt and Nasty Newt are unworthy of the office of president.
This is opinion. This is good! It's great to have opinions and it's even more wonderful to be able to say them to others.
It bothers 88% of the people in the USA that this office is being bought by the highest bidder
Now this has figures in it. Is the 88% an opinion, or a fact? It would stand to reason that only 12% of people aren't bothered by it. I wonder who those 12% represent. Numbers don't seem quite right. Not a challenge, but my opinion.
As the congress and the senate sit back and say nothing.This just proves we need to get rid of everyone , VOTE EVERYONE OUT !
This is also an opinion... many in congress say too much already... just not the right things... leading to my opinion that InPS's opinion and mine are in agreement.
BB
The odd thing about everyone wanting to vote everyone out? They say that, but always vote their own representatives back. Quite the conundrum.
I know phancy... this has been going on for years. I remember about 10 years back, there was this big campaign to vote the scoundrels out. It didn't work... for exactly the same reason you said. It's everyone else's congressmen that are bad... not mine.
From my living room, all the negative ads I saw were from the Romney campaign. Must have been up getting a glass of water when those ads attacking him came on. (Oh, and I rarely get up for a glass of water)
Are attack ads people too? Since corporations and banks are people, I can only guess Mitts thinks ads are as well.
Red,
Once the ads started coming on during Sportscenter, Mr. phinephancy had had it. He is booking a vacation for the general election!!!
phine, if you think this was bad, wait until the GE.
All indications from the Left are they will be down and dirty.
I expect the right to do the same.
Wonder if their will be the same reaction here when Obama's Super Pacs start attacking Romney?
phancy, you know it was a matter of money. Mitt is loaded and he can dump as many dollars into his campaign as he likes. I guess there's no place like America where you can purchase your way to being president.
Not a bad plan Phine, vote early then leave for a vacation. Hopefully you can find a nice, quiet isle untouched by Mitts Dirty Sexy Money.
Ring Around the Collar: The Democrats are playing "rope a dope" and will not sit by like John Kerry in 2004...You have given them a veritable treasure trove of "issues."
Fed, BB, WCA,
I don't really care which pac is attacking who! When it shows up on Pandora and Sportscenter it is time to boogie! Already have plans to vote absentee anyways. Might as well spend some time on a nice cruise ship floating around the Caribbean during the end of the general!
"Mitt is loaded"
Not as personally rich as John Kerry, but I am sure that didnt bother you, with a "D" next to his name and all...
And the one billion dollar Obama campaign warchest doesnt bother you, either, does it?
Bob,
Did you happen to read the part where I said I didn't care which pac was running the ads? Maybe I should have been clearer - I don't care which PARTY is running the ads. That better?
Nice avatar bOb...
Nobody
But
Obama...;)
Mickey, some people have trouble with the English comprehension, eh?
I laugh every time I see that.
If Mr Romney wants to fight...He might start by encouraging his 5 courageous boys to volunteer for military service or the Peace Corps since he avoided the draft thru "special ministerial exemptions" in the 60's.
I always wondered why this guy touts his record with Staples. A company that mostly sells goods manufactured in China. Just sayin!
Can hardly wait for the debates: Obama will twist this girly man like a pretzel!
Oh don't go there....the far left are the last ones who'd actually fight for this country! Until they make up the majority of the military (and they're not even close) they can't point fingers at anyone--rich or poor. They're too busy tearing it apart....occupiers at heart! BTW, if Obama does get back into office, the first thing he'll be facing is confronting Iran in the Persian Gulf....so get used to war, even the spineless left is going to have to deal with it....
"It would be wonderful if campaigns were all nothing but positive, but that's certainly not the reality," Romney said at a press availability outside his headquarters here. "President Obama will have a billion dollars or so to attack me. He's already begun. The AFL-CIO I understand spent about a million dollars in Florida attacking me. So there are going to be attacks, and the right thing to do will be to respond to them aggressively, clear up those things that have been said that are incorrect, and point out the weaknesses-- the differences between yourself and those that you're running against."
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You've been "attacking" the President since January 2009 and yet you 'act' like you're only in a response mode? Give me a break.
Although the validity of your claim isn't certain, but you sound a little salty that the President "...will have a billion dollars..." I thought that is how the game was played? Flip floppin on that too I see.
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If you want 4 more years like the last 3 be my guest.
My guess is most won't want that.
Better than 4 years of the current girly men populating the republican party who have been prancing around the country lately!
The last 3 years have been great compared to the reign of terror we experienced the prior 8 years.
The millions of unemployed may take issue with that opinion of yours.
Liberals will always say that Obama is better than Bush. Hell, they've been saying it for at least 10 years now. One thing I am very happy about is... it won't be the democrats deciding the election this year.
If you mean the millions that are unemployed as a result of the 2nd largest economic crash in the history of the country that occurred under Bush, they likely will not take exception with my opinion. Poll after poll shows Americans blame the crash on Bush, not Obama.
I have been in Scotland for almost three weeks now. The wife and I are god-parents to my nephew's daughter. We see a lot of each other (except when I am on the road, of course).
Mrs. SoCal reports nephew and family were over for dinner the other night. TV was on, and Mr. Romney appeared on the screen. My two year old god-daughter dropped her toy, pointed at the screen, and shouted "Nino!!!" - Nino the spanish (we speak a lot of that in SoCal) term for god-father.
Yikes!
Mark,
My son-in-law looks exactly like Rick Scott. I know how you feel!
My dream vacation is to go to Scotland, Mark.
Are you seeing any coverage of our politics in the papers there?
Um, actually, "Nino" is Spanish for a male baby...
Rather astute god-daughter you've got there!
CM,
Good point, and amusing! Astute indeed!
Though it adds nothing to my story perhaps I should have been more specific for the sake of the linguistically inclined amongst us. We speak a lot of L.A. Spanish in SoCal. The use of nino and nina are colloquial terms of affection for adult relatives, godparents, etc. Note the absence of the tilde in both words.
Part of the reason my god-daughter and get along so well is that often Nino is just a big niño!
Steeler--Scotland is fabulous! We had great food, sights, and met wonderful people. I would gladly go there again--would even consider becoming an expat there! I hope you get a chance to go.
The beauty of it is that the Obama campaign can just run ads of Mitt stating his various positions on issues and ask which Mitt is running in 2012. Of course, his Super PAC may run some negative ads, but thanks to the Republican-appointed majority of the Roberts Supreme Court, President Obama can't exercise any control over any Super PACs.
I hate super pacs. Don't care whose super pac it is. But I do like Superman! :)
SteelerFan,
Poses and interesting question. Will super-PACS be more of a benefit to the challenger or incumbent?
Mark in SoCal, That is an interesting question. I guess only time will tell. I sincerely hope that something can be done about campaign finance reform. I would love to see public financing with serious spending caps and force candidates to spend 5X the amount of time with constituents as they do with lobbyists.
Mark--conventional wisdom would be that most of the super-wealthy will contribute to Republican PACs while a few super-wealthy and the unions will contribute to the Democratic PACs. Having seen the kind of money that has been spent to date, I'm thinking that the majority of the money will go to the Republicans since they have more super-wealthy.
And let's not forget that the Super PACs can also be contributing to state and local races. That is truly frightening to me.
lisa,
I agree! What we need to do is give a set amount to each candidate, and let them dazzle us.
Let see how they manger their campaign, and how far they can stretch that dollar.
thetotas, Wouldn't that be nice. So far it seems like just you and I think that would be a good idea.
Not so thetotas and lisa--I think it should be great fun to see those 1% candidates try to live on a "fixed income." What a hoot! In the immortal words of our friend Feisty....I'll bring the popcorn!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Well at least the GOP has hope with the trial in Georgia. Hillary may be running after all. Late but maybe after all. By the looks of the testimony, this may get some ground if the MSM would follow it.
Oh and please you libs, for your own sake, read the whole thing instead of just blowing it off as whatever your word for the day is. From my seat, the testimony is fact. You could (and probably will) contrue it as fiction or a conspiracy theory but that is your right. For your sakes and to save face from all of your worship over the last four years, you had better hope it is.
Better blow by blow description of the days "festivities".
Seriously? Birther allegations again? I read through the entire article, and all I can say is there is nothing in there that had not been previously refuted.
So I suppose Obama's grandmother put a birth announcement in the local Hawaiian newspaper just in case he ran for president?
and all I can say is there is nothing in there that had not been previously refuted.
All I can say is a duly appointed judge thinks the complaint has merit.
Otherwise, why the subpoena? Can hardly wait for the bench warrant to be issued.
Wow, this has got to be the biggest waste of time and taxpayer money I've heard about in a while. I really thought this birther nonsense stopped when he actually released his birth certificate. It's one thing to disapprove of his policies and politics but do we have to drag this tired dog out of the shed yet again? And yes, he is a "natural citizen" for all those who want to bring up the fact that his father was born in Kenya so he has to leave office immediately.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
Is that simple enough for you?
Did you read what you posted? Go back now, read the items put forth to the court, and go over your list again. Especially those pertaining to his father.
I don't recall this much debate over whether Michael "I am the son of Greek immigrants" Dukakis was eligible to be president. Neither of his parents were born in the U.S. and nobody objected to his name being on the ballot. But there is a difference between Obama and Dukakis that seems to get conservatives really angry and I just can't put my finger on what it is. Can anybody help me with this one?
And TNSEVOL -
Did you miss the larger point I was making? The items pertaining to his father don't actually matter concerning his eligibility to be POTUS. He was born in the United States. That makes his eligible.
Ryan---it will never be simple enough for them. Nor for people like Jan Brewer, who think it is OK to wag her finger at the President. Nor for someone shouting "you lie" at the SOTU. Nor for the head of the RNC to compare the President of the United States to the disgraced captain of the Italian cruise ship who is facing criminal charges. We can speculate on their motivation but the bottom line is a disrespect for both the person and the office of the Presidency and it is shameful.
If you refuse to believe he was born in the United States there is nothing that is going to change your mind. I just don't know what more can be done to dismiss the last handful of yahoos still holding onto this theory.
You're right Ryan and TN. I'll let it rest and let that stupid old judge in Georgia decide. He shouldn't listen to those crazy experts and their BC forgery, fraudulent SS card BS. Boy is he going to have egg on his face. LOL
Dukakis was never President
[Dukakis was never President]
And neither will Romney.
Romney singing was his "Dukakis" moment...he is the Howard Dean of the GOP...
More nonsense from the Queen of birther nonsense, Orly Tates, and her birther conspiracy friends.
Anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason, though frivolous lawsuits are usually thrown out early - as the rest of the birther lawsuits have been. But, undeterred, they kept filing until they found a far right judge that was willing to risk public humiliation to keep the trial going. Doesn't mean they're going to win, and even if the judge was daft enough to accept hearsay evidence and reject actual Government documents and find for the plaintiffs, it would quickly be overturned on appeal.
Romney must be daft. The AFL-CIO spends $1 million, so he counters with $15 million. Thank god this isn't a game of dodge ball. I'd hate to think what he would use. And please explain where the claim that Obama will spend $1 billion comes from? As I recall, it was an estimate of what his campaign would need just to stay close to even with the GOP. Given that outside groups are planning to spend $100 million just to save Scott Walker's sorry ass in Wisconsin, I shudder to think what the oligarchs will spend on behalf of Romney. And the sad thing is - it's just goes back into many of their own pockets since they own the stations, newspapers and production facilities.
Well, at least we know which road he's taking come time to face Obama.
"The Gutter" is not actually a road...
"I hit him back first!"
Great, so the GOP nomination boils down to a couple of 6-year-olds fighting in the sandbox.
As long as you dish it out you should be willing to take it.
Keep it going. This is fun.
He lies, he smears, he sheds big tears. the poor nit-Mitt. He needs to clean up his own act, but perhaps an angel came down to him and said, The sins you commit, Mitt, will only help you win, so don't consider it as sin. Fuss about those that trespass against you, the same folks you screw, and spout baloney. I'll cover for you or I'm not Moroni.
SO now people are going to start talking birth-certificates and does he have the right to be President because his father as kenyan huh??!!! Even thought people are having problems getting and keeping jobs and trying to get there lives back on track, this is what's going to be in the news. The depths these people will go to take down the President amazes me. Even if the judge said it's credible it just kills me that a person brings a case up in the state of Georgia just to smear this man and that's real petty to me. As i always say this is my opinion. On to Mr. Romney, again this is what he needs to do, I can't knock him for taking it to Newt once he realized that Gingrich was trying to punch him in the mouth "pious baloney" is the best quote I've heard in the campaign, so he should show his ability to fight back. This is politics ladies and gentlemen and we're not talking about governorship of a state, we're talking about becoming the leader of the free world. Just keep up the good work fellas and let us sit back and watch a good battle.
Romney's SuperPACs started the negative ads in Iowa. So he is being disingenuous again. And he is right, he will not let anybody define him. He is the candidate of change as McCain satirically noted in a 2008 debate. Try to pin Romney down and he'll just point to his alternate ego with exactly the opposite position. As for the billion bucks that will come down on him in the General Election, he can count on it. He bashes Obama every day about losing jobs and creating deficits. Obama has done neither. Romney is getting pretty good at dishing it out against a very vulnerable opponent. But Romney is a walking target. And his double talk about Massachussetts' healthcare plan is comical. It's virtually the same as the new federal healthcare benefit. So when he complains about the scourge of Obamacare and how it will increase the cost of healthcare, he condemns his own program. And I think the evil of his SuperPACs doing all the dirty work will be obvious by the Fall. Apparently, Romney is not a nice guy.
"Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! The Party Of NO has got to GO!!" "Romulian Romney" is economically very negative for the Middle Class, the Working Poor, the elderly, and the disabled.
ROMNEY NEEDS TO LET AMERICA SEE WHAT HE'S REALLY BEEN UP TO FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS ON HIS TAX FORMS !!!!!!!!!!!!! then watch him self destruct with the american voters. no use for him to keep pretending that he's showed us the tax information america has been asking for. these gullible and desperate republican conservative tea partiers wants to hide romney's past dealings. but there are smart people out there ,that are seeing right through the smoke and mirrors. they can run from it, but time will not let it hide. REPUBLICAN HIPOCRITS HAVE A MEAN SURPRISE AWAITING THEIR ANGEL OF LIGHT. HIS OWN DAD SAID ONE YEAR OF TAX EXPOSURE ,IS ONLY A WAY TO HIDE THE TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is a thought. Rather than continue to spend the millions and millions of dollars for this election campaign, why don't we take that money and pay down the debt!!!! oh, wait, that's right the republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich!!! This is the problem we have. millions can be spent on campaigns, the middle class can bail out banks who pay millions to lobby congress and what does the middle class get; absolutly screwed!!! Fire Congress
Romney can't say anything positive about himself because there just isn't anything to say.
Yep Mitt is very rich , so he is Evil ,, Successful , so he is Evil , Knows business , again Evil . He is just Evil . And when he wins this thing in November , its gonna be funny , and Evil , so its funny and again Evil , but funny