I agree totally .

You mean sort of like Obama's pandering to the gay voters by eliminating Dont Ask Dont Tell while being against Gay Marriage? Or pandering to the anti war/terrorist voters by saying he will close Guantanamo and eliminate enhanced interrogation techniques but continues rendition, doesnt close guantanamo and retains virtually all of Bush's anti terrorist policies? Or pandering to the anti wall street crowd and campaigns repeatedly about the fairness and inequity in our system while taking millions and millions of campaign funds from Wall Street and hires ex Goldman Sachs employees to fill his cabinet level positions and bails out most of the large banks? You mean Let me get this straight sort of behavior that your find Unbelievable?

It is hard for Newt to mount a defense as Newt is relying on future SOUTHERN contests to get the nomination. Newt does not want to get on the wrong side of the xenophobic Republican base that gave him his SC victory.

But isn't making Latinos choose between Mitt and Newt like making shrimp choose between the grill and the pot of boiling water?

Mother Jones:

As Republican primary voters head to the polls in Florida on Tuesday, both GOP front-runners have endorsed a policy that would contradict existing law and could disenfranchise millions of voters across the country.

During a recent debate, both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney supported getting rid of bilingual ballots when the topic was brought up by the moderator. "I would have ballots in English," Gingrich said. "And I think you could have programs where virtually everybody would be able to read the ballots." Romney agreed. "I think Speaker Gingrich is right with regards to what he's described," he said.

That wasn't much of a stretch for Gingrich, who once called Spanish "the language of living in a ghetto." Yet their glib demand for English-only ballots would require amending the Voting Rights Act and doing away with hard-won legal requirements that have existed for decades. It's a sharp turn away from the Bush administration, which despite a spotty civil rights record filed more ballot access cases on behalf of non-English speakers than any administration had before.

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Two despicable candidates. What has happened to the Republican Party? If you are not white, if you are not rich, they kick you to the curb.

I am not gay, and don't regularly associate with those who are. But my personal morality should not be legislated. this is called 'Secularism' and is a cornerstone of the US.

I don't really approve of abortion on a personal level. I've had ex-friends get them, and thus they became ex and I no longer wanted much to do with them. Again, my personal morality is a far cry from federal and state law.

Using federal law to legislate morality is tyrranical. Who's definition of right and wrong would we use?

If mankind was innately good, we wouldn't have to legislate such things as 'abuse' and 'discrimination' and 'Safety and Health Reform'.

Mankind is a selfish, selfish creature willing to leave it's own out to die.

And that, at least, we can legislate against.

Cubans and Puerto Ricans

Immigration really isn't as issue to them, but they are counted as Latinos. If this was a national poll or a poll in a state with a large Mexican or Latin American population I would expect different results.

Socialist Utopia?

What socialist actions or legislation has been signed lately, again?

None.

The biggest 'socialist' movements of recent history were the Civil Rights and the Social Security System/Medicare system.

Tell me which of those are 'bad' in your opinion.

Or, better yet, tell me which of those you would love to get rid of due to their 'Socialist Overtones'.

Laws are inevitably decried by those adversely affected. How do those three issues adversely affect you and in what way?

what's unbelievable is the liberal media still trying to make people believe

that Obombo is winning in the polls!!! hahaha....psmnbc!!!

I know! Where on earth would they get such an outrageous idea?

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

In Florida, the Latino voters that Mitt is pandering to are already registered republicans. They are mostly Cuban Americans, who have benefited from special pathways to citizenship that is not afforded to other immigrant groups. The Cubans since 1966, have this pathway, as they are looked upon as political refugees. Most of the Latino republican support comes from So. Fl especially Miami Dade county. Other Latino groups ,of which Puerto Ricans are the largest, lean Democrat and are mostly in the central part of the state in and around Orlando.

Recently I read, where Republicans were narrowing the gap between registered voters, the Dems still have the edge. But the most important number that has Republicans concerned, is the fact that while Republicans have only added 7,093 registered Latino voters to their ranks since 2008, Democrats have added more than 50,000.

Much of that change has been in Central Florida.

Huffington Post 1/30/12

It seems reality has a liberal bias.

I have a friend whose ancestors came with conquistadors centuries ago. He is, of course, Latino but does not speak Spanish. His surname is the only thing about him other than black hair that even indicates his Latino heratetage. In such polls he would be lumped with the Latino population although, because he and his relation have been here so long they have no idea what those crossing the border are all about they could not accurately represent the "Latino" vote. I suspect there are millions of such people all accross America.

What has happened to the Republican Party? If you are not white, if you are not rich, they kick you to the curb.

Not only that, but they are actually re-defining 'whiteness' to exclude more and more people. It's really scary the degree to which people are being disenfranchised left and right by the Republicans.

We consider it par for the course when Stalinists or Nazis do it, but this was supposed to be the 'Party of Lincoln'.

Not any more!!!

The biggest 'socialist' movements of recent history were the Civil Rights and the Social Security System/Medicare system.

Neither of which is 'socialist' anyway.

Socialism is government takeover, ownership, and operation of the means of production.

We don't have that in the United States, and nobody has recommended it.

People who point to the collateralization of LOANS to General Motors with stock as an example of 'socialism' apparently have such tiny brains, they don't realize that bankers collateralize mortgages with the houses the lend money on. That's not 'socialism', it's "FINANCE".

The President is winning and hopefully for the good of the Nation and the World, he will win re-election.

Obama / Biden 2012

Job1, if this country doesn't wake up to reality, the next 4 years will drive it to third world status. There is not enough workers to support the nonworkers. We'll be worse off than Greece if we don't turn it around.

Kirky: You mean sort of like Obama's pandering to the gay voters by eliminating Dont Ask Dont Tell while being against Gay Marriage? Or pandering to the anti war/terrorist voters by saying he will close Guantanamo and eliminate enhanced interrogation techniques but continues rendition, doesnt close guantanamo and retains virtually all of Bush's anti terrorist policies? Or pandering to the anti wall street crowd and campaigns repeatedly about the fairness and inequity in our system while taking millions and millions of campaign funds from Wall Street and hires ex Goldman Sachs employees to fill his cabinet level positions and bails out most of the large banks? You mean Let me get this straight sort of behavior that your find Unbelievable?

Unable to find legitimate criticisms, Kirky is spewing his ignorance and parroting the partisans that fed him again.

I mean, really? Eliminating DADT, which was supported by both Republicans and Democrats, is pandering?

This nut job is very desperate to preserve the delusional reality he was spoon fed.

Skiddy: Breathe. Open a window. Loosen the tin foil hat. We are not Greece. 8.7 Percent unemployment (6.2 in my state, 6.8 in my neighboring) still means the sun comes up, the world turns and a whole helluva lot of us go to work? obama's 2 million additionitional jobs in his first 2.5 years is more than President Badded in his entire two terms...If we survived that hapless incompetent, we can deal with a slowly strengthening recover.

El Partido Republicano se opone a la reforma migratoria y desde hace décadas.

El Partido Republicano le gusta el sistema disfuncional completamente roto las leyes de inmigración.

Obama hizo un acuerdo con el Partido Republicano que iba a hacer cumplir la inmigración cuotas de deportación al máximo si el Partido Republicano de acuerdo para tomar la reforma migratoria.

El Partido Republicano de acuerdo porque ellos pensaban que sería imposible que Obama en realidad alcanzar las cuotas. Pero el presidente ha mantenido totalmente su parte de la negociación y ahora el Partido Republicano se ha negado a mantener su parte del trato.

Obama es el único camino para lograr la verdadera reforma migratoria. y que la necesidad de votar a cabo todos los obstruccionistas republicanos en el Congreso, para que podamos avanzar en estas reformas muy importantes.

Republicant--taking things a little too personal these days arent you? What difference does it make that both parties supported DADT the point was about pandering to voters while taking action different than the pandering. Typical of your argumentative style, you prefer to cast the stones to take away from the substance. What part of my post which if you could critically think was incorrect as a comparison to Fiesty's inane comment? But its good to know that I am getting under you skin as I hate uninformed unintelligent posts like yours that spend more effort on being a middle school girl than on being able to intellectually debate

Not personal Kirky. Deflecting again?

How was repealing a stupid law pandering? You are simply, once again, attempting to reinforce the delusional reality you were fed, and never let go, about this president.

And seriously. What kind of fool accuses me of attempting to take away from the substance of your substance-LESS post? I was mocking you for being a substanceless parrot.

Dumb, dee, dee, dumb, dumb, dumb....

Got news for you it wasnt law but policy and it was a stupid policy. I am all for gay marriage and thought DADT was stupid. But Fiesty was making a stupid point about pandering and I showed how Obama does it and did it too. By the way, this shows how desperate you are to show that you have any knowledge because even the most ardent Obama fan, realize he panders for votes even if he cant or wont do anything about it once in office. Thats called politics. The fact that you are so desperate to label me because I actually dont buy into the Obama political BS and can think for myself is proof that its working. You clearly didnt take away from my post because you didnt even bother responding to it. Its your typical debating style. Because you cant respond to the substance, you, Fiesty, Backhouse/Navy, Johns revert to personal attacks and making yourself sound like an rube rather than intellectually debate.

Kirky.

You showed nothing. Again, repealing DADT was not pandering.

What you did was, once again, attempt to reinforce the delusional reality you were fed about this President. It doesn't matter what the issue is. You, like most blind partisan parrots, will use anything to preserve and reinforce that delusion.....even DADT.

It shows how uttterly desperate you are, as well as pathetic.

I am not attempting to label you, jr. I am simply describing where your delusional reality comes from. You are not an original, trust me. Many other blind, naive cable news drones have and repeat the exact same delusional drivel you do.

And once again. Your post contained no substance. Thus, there was no need to respond with substance. If you do not want to get mocked, jr, then post something of substance. Quit making it clear you have never had, nor can you have, an intellectual debate.

You simply don't know enough, and refuse to go look. You are willfully ignorant.....and you are not alone.

Two despicable candidates. What has happened to the Republican Party? If you are not white, if you are not rich, they kick you to the curb.

Generalize much? I personally find it offensive that I have to see so much spanish around me, and I'm an independent. Basically you're saying that only white people speak english, no other race. What about white people that speak french, german, spanish, etc?

You're exactly what is wrong with the liberals. You go generalizing everything about the opposite party, from the Tea Party to rich people to immigration, etc. I highly doubt you even have the slightist clue what the Tea Party wants. The high percentage of republicans are not rich, in fact you have more rich liberals than the right does. The immigration that the right speaks about is just wanting people to come here legally, which has nothing to do with race.

Go play in traffic you ignorant drone.

@Republicant

Calling it a stupid law is purely your opinion. It happens to be my personal opinion that marriage is between a man and a woman. It doesn't mean I judge the lgbt crowd, in fact I have a good friend here at work that married to her wife. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to try and force other people to think the way I do. I have enough to worry about in my yard with out giving two sh!ts about yours. So get off your pedestal and remember that you bleed red like the rest of us.

AlexM.

It is my opinion that DADT was stupid, but I also don't think it is very hard to make the case that allowing gays and lesbians to serve, just as long as they don't tell anyone, is stupid. But whatever.

I am not trying to force others to thing the way I do. I would just like people to think, period.

So get off your pedestal of ignorance, and start thinking...for yourself.

Alex, I have nicknamed Republicant "Lindsey" because he shrieks like an 8th grade girl in his posts. I wish he could get past that shrieking noise so we could actually have an intellectual discussion.

Kirky. (You have a boyfriend. How cute.)

I have tried many times to have an intelligent discussion with you.

It always results in you breaking down, deflecting, and eventually insulting when your parroted arguments fall apart.

So now I just mock you. It is an easy think to stop. Just stop being an ignorant parrot. Do your own research. Think the issues through on your own, and come to your own conclusions.

Then, you actuall will be able to discuss the issues with intelligence, and I will not be able to mock you for being an ignorant parrot.

IJS.

"You go generalizing everything about the opposite party,....."

...like all democrats are lazy, union workers, or unemployed and on food stamps, looking for a "handout"?

Those types of generalizations? Yeah, "conservatives' never do that.

Repulicants,

I don't have a problem with gays/lesbians serving the military as that has nothing to do with sexual preference and everything to do with being patriotic to our country. The only possible issue I ever had with it is if special considerations would have to be made for them such as dorm space, latrines, etc.

As long as we're on the topic, I also don't feel it's right that California would start forcing the lgbt eductation on kids, that is the parent's responsibility. I do feel that the whole lgbt thing has gotten out of hand and it is being forced down our throats. What you do in the bedroom is your business. When you're forcing it in to my house through my children, then it becomes my business and you (the government) can go to hell.

It's really interesting looking at minorities in how they claim they don't have rights and are discriminated against. When what we've ended up with is the majority being discriminated against. The minorities makes such a big deal out of themselves and want all this special treatment, when in the end, they end up with more rights than the average citizen.

Last year a couple of white guys set up a scholarship for white individuals. Anyone remember all the racist claims against them? Yet how many scholarships are there for blacks, latinos, asians, etc, etc. The minorites are the ones with the race problem.

in 1995, I decided I needed to kick the booze in Reno and get my butt back in college to finish my degree. So I head down to the library to check into grants and loans in those huge books they used to have (might still have those out there, don't know). I spend a day going through to see what I could apply for. As an average white guy, 25 years old, I could apply for the Pell Grant and the Stafford loans. Now if I'd been female, or of a different color, or different sexual preference, I would've had all sorts of options open for me. Yet us white people are racist bigots!

@sam,

I didn't generalize, and most union workers are democrats :) I wouldn't say lazy, unemployed, on food stamps or looking for a handout though. Both parties get claims to those folks!

AlexM.

Nice rant. It appears to be yours. I have no issue with it.

At least you are not like Kirky-Lindsey, and try to talk about a bunch of things you know nothing about.

AP-1414066

.......obama's 2 million additionitional jobs in his first 2.5 years is more than President Badded in his entire two terms...If we survived that hapless incompetent, we can deal with a slowly strengthening recover...

Couldn't have said it better myself AP....great observation and post!

Kirky-Lindsey.

I found an article from the Sun Times, but it didn't say what you repeated.

13,539 land stimulus jobs in Illinois in first quarter of 2011

Job1, if this country doesn't wake up to reality, the next 4 years will drive it to third world status. There is not enough workers to support the nonworkers. We'll be worse off than Greece if we don't turn it around.

The President is doing a great job and your fears can be put to rest. Hopefully, we will get rid of many Republicans in office, this go around.

@Job1,

If he's doing such a great job, then why is my wife's work load almost doubling because of his stupid health care plan? The government cuts the amount of money to Medicaid, so the companies handling the claims get less money, then the government INCREASES the number of people allowed on Medicaid, hence increasing the amount of work the companies need to do. Then he puts in his health care plan, which adds even more work on to these companies.

So, the company can't afford to hire more help due to the cuts, and they can't afford overtime due to the cuts, yet they have more than twice the work to do than they had before. And no, the people handling this paperwork don't make much, around $12 an hour.

So no, Obama isn't doing a great job, here in southern Oregon, all he's doing is pissing people off.

As far as Congress getting anything done, they really didn't get anything done before the Republicans took over. So I'm afraid your liberal dream world won't turn out the way you think it will. Neither party will accomplish crap. The democrats have gone too far left, the republicans... well hell, I don't even know where the republicans went... off the edge of stupidity?

Democrats need to come more to the middle, and republicans need to get their party back on track. There is way too much hate going on between parties. The republicans have been so tied up in it that they lost their message, which is why I went independent. Both parties have forgotten about the country, and are too buried in this whole party war, when the parties were supposed to be about the country.

Alex: WHAT????? Your wife's workload doubles and you blame Obama's health care, most of which doesn't even take effect until 2014??? Do you not understand that Medicaid is a JOINT federal/state program? Each STATE runs its own medicaid program. Even in Southern Oregon, facts are facts. (and if you are going to try to convince anyone that Oregon is going to go for Romney...you better at least try to come up with something better than that lame argument.)

Alex.

As far as Congress getting anything done, they really didn't get anything done before the Republicans took over.

I do disagree with this.

The 111th congress was the most legislatively productive in recent history. Your statement is simply false.

lol @ AP

The certification she has to get is directly due to Obamacare, and the extra paperwork is directly due to Obamacare. I also do understand that Medicaid is federal and state, I not quite as stupid as you look! But that's the democrat way, offer everything without thinking of the cost that companies have to bear. I wondered where all the small businesses were going!

And I have absolutely no idea where the Romney comment came from as I haven't even mentioned a candidate by name on this thread, nor will I vote for either because they both suck, along with our president.

I'm thinking of doing a write in vote for Mickey Mouse since I can't, in good faith, vote for any candidate as I don't feel that any of them would be good for this country.

@Repulicants,

It all depends on what you consider productive... which, much like we've agreed earlier, falls under personal opinion. I don't consider much of what either party has done to be real productive for the country. I see a lot of pandering to special interests related to whichever party, a lot of pandering to minorities, or unions, or the tea party, or EPA, or whatever. But I don't see much being done that would benefit the nation as a whole. If you're in this country legally, then you're an american. It doesn't matter your color, your sexual preference, your political party, your religion, unionized or not. Congress needs to think of us as a whole, instead of a bunch of little segments to please.

AlexM.

Congress needs to think of us as a whole, instead of a bunch of little segments to please.

But congress is a bunch of little segments of constituents wanting to be pleased.

Seems whole would be a contradiction.

And who defines what the whole thinks? Which segment?

Repulicants,

There are major issues right now that do affect us as a whole. Jobs, economy, national debt are three that come to mind. I don't think (nor want) for the elected officials to forget about how or why they were elected from their geographical area. But right now, that isn't even what is happening. For example, most of the democrat job plans affect mainly union workers... what about the rest of us? Republicans are so busy trying to hamstring the democrats that I honestly don't think they even care about the jobs. Whatever the democrats put forth (however flawed it is, or how good it could be) the republicans will try to stop it.

Maybe I'm living in my own little dream world (it is occasionally a happy place after all!), but I really think that both parties in congress have lost sight of the big picture and are having too much fun in the sandbox throwing feces at each other.

It's just amazing that any minority or group that has faced discrimination or persecution (based on race, or gender, as well as religion including Mormons) or workers, especially government and union workers, heck even seniors have anything to do with the Teapublican Party. The easier question is who has not been attacked by the GOP/TP?

But it was funny when Romney tagged Gingrich on his pandering propaganda as to what percent of the 11 million illegals (really more that that) are grandmothers. Priceless.

It's funny how MSN is ignoring the story of how Obama has been declared ineligible to be on the ballot in Georgia because of his citizenship. Highlights from the court hearing, all admitted into evidence, all under oath, all verified:

- His SS# was issued to a Connecticut man born in 1890

- Obama's SS#, per Homeland Security, does not pass E-Verify... it comes back as fraudulent

- Obama's birth certificate does NOT match the birth certificates of other people born in the same hospital on the same day as Obama. Documents experts testified it is a forgery. And a bad one at that! White around the letters shows obvious photoshopping.

He also ignored a subpoena to appear, and his lawyer also did not show. That means that any appeal will be based on the facts introduced into the record at the hearing. By not having at least his lawyer appear, he forfeited his right to dispute those facts.

I know, I know, you guys will scream tinfoil hat or something. It's hilarious really. Like when Woody Harrelson's character in the movie 2012 turned out to be right all along.

Seriously, google it yourselves. It's no joke.

Poor Obama. All his stories are about to unravel.

Popcorn!

(Apologies to the other posters in this thread, no doubt my comments will get the thread collapsed by the cowards who can't stand people that don't agree with them. Google it though, it's all true.)

TruePatriot,

I rarely agree with you, but I do agree with you this time. The Republicans have lost their way big time, and their so busy trying to find it that they're stepping all over everyone. I won't agree with part of it concerning unions because I personally don't support unions in this day and age. But with them bringing up race, religion, etc... it's pretty bad and they're going to lose a lot of support.

Only thing is that it probably won't help the democrats much, because most will be like me... x-republicans that have lost faith in the direction of the party. But it doesn't mean that we're going to flip sides since we don't agree with a lot of liberal stuff. Personally I'm a conservative at heart that just doesn't buy the party bs anymore. I did support and vote for Obama, but I'm not liking how it turned out. But, have to try it before you say you don't like it! (At least that's what my mom said about liver, but I was right, I didn't like it)

As far as Romney and immigration, it's about the only thing with him that I agree with. Newt is just pandering, and will flip flop. Of course, so will Romney! But I won't!

You have to wonder about any minority that would vote Republican with today's political positions being taken. Their language and actions have clearly been exclusive for just about anything and anyone not white, not heterosexual, not "the right" Christian, not English speaking, not wealthy, not employed, not male, and not over 40... otherwise it's a smart vote! Oh yes, and even if you DO fit within their "inclusive" group, you must be equipped with a VERY short memory and no ethics whatsoever.

I would register republican just to vote for Ron Paul, and so would many other Democrats. Thankfully, because I just changed my voter status to indy I can vote in both primaries in my state. If following The Constitution is crazy, well, at least half of America, probably more, is crazy too. Hopefully this Georgia stuff gets Obama out and Hilary in for November. Otherwise I'm going Ron Paul, and a lot of people I know feel the same way. I'm a Union guy, and Ron Paul is wicked bad for Unions, but I would put that aside in order to vote for what was the best for My Country.

Ron Paul or (Dare I DReam?)Hilary 2012

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate for President right now who isn't openly lying to your face.

The rest of them are lying their baseBALLS off! Lols.

True story Bro.

AP, where in hell do you get 2 million jobs added? And maybe 8.7% unemployment means nothing to you, unless you are in that group, not to mention the ones who've given up looking for a job and aren't counted in that number. Just keep making up your numbers as you go, reality is much different.

Alil Common Sense

Your Georgia post may generate a few laughs, but it's TOO tin foil to cause the whole thread to be collapsed... just your post maybe. I liked it though. Entertaining! Thanks!

Always good to see the liberal media divide the American electorate by race in order to get others of the same race to feel like should all vote the same way rather than what is best for the future of the nation.

Forget the media BS and vote for the future of the nation you live in rather than for who will pay the most for your vote... after all it is your childrens and grandchildrens money they are stealing to bribe you with.

Alil Common Sense - Your post is based - as the Georgia "law" is - on lies. President Obama's SS number is his own; he was born in Hawaii as has been proved to intelligent people (and Donald Trump) over and over again. The rest of your post is lies and has been debunked over and over again and also by SNopes. The Supreme Court will rule against Georgia and Obama will be on the ballot. Georgia's "law" is the result of ignorant, backward people trying to push their hatred of a black man forward - against all logic. I'm surprised you would stoop to this level and post such nonsense since it reflects very poorly on your intelligence or should I say, shows a total lack of intelligence.

Ursula,

Rubio's mentor, Jeb Bush, is advising him to stay out of this fracas.

Rubio has stated repeatedly he will not accept a VP invitation. I believe him too. He is smart enough to realize his political career is way too new to cross that line at this early stage.

Jeb Bush, is advising him to stay out of this fracas.

Because Jeb Bush wants to run as VP, to set himself up for 2016.

Amy,

I really don't see Jeb playing second chair to anyone and he has the name power and backing to go for the top spot without having to set himself up.

Brianb ... morning, this is what I actually referred to a couple of days ago

www.investopedia.com/terms/m/minskymoment.asp#axzz1kxkwYVrK

That poll was "fish and chips" paper by the time it was released.

All the movement is to Newton now. Romney is tanking in the final hours again...

dangerfield, I would imagine that is one of the reason's (of many) that you-know-who will not endorse Romney!

Is the Romney campaign supported by Draino?

Ideology,

I heard it was Mr. Plumber but Draino may be correct. LOL

PS 25lb. kitty cats like to jump on laps to eat popcorn. That's a new trick.

Rubio or Jebb are just too smart to get in when they are so sure to lose and win a reputation as a drag on the ticket. Rubio is not popular and Jebb is still a Bush, even if he is the "smart" one.

I have a friend (who) is, of course, Latino but (he acts like a normal person).... I suspect there are millions of such people all accross America.

No kidding. Too bad the Republican Party works so hard to categorically exclude and oppress them.

You reap what you sow.

I really don't see Jeb playing second chair to anyone and he has the name power and backing to go for the top spot without having to set himself up.

LOL - I can see it all now. Jeb's slogan can be "I'm the son who SHOULD HAVE run!" No more Bushes - America just can't take any more of their damaging policies and oil company pandering.

Pedestrian - I'm with you. I don't think we'll see a Bush in the White House again - unless they are on a tour!

Considering most of the latino community tends to be democrat, they won't support the GOP. It doesn't matter who is running, they will vote Obama. This is what makes Florida such an interesting state overall. The state has strong fragmented divisions between GOP and Democrats depending on what part of the state you are in.

People don't realize that a large part of the Latino community actually have very conservative points of view (it is a largely Catholic group). However, when you are always attacked and discriminated against because of your ethnic backround............. Well, would vote for the party that does that to you?

bela,

I can see you don't know very much about the Latino community. Study up and come back when you do.

I have friends in the latino community in Miami. They are a very proud people. They are self reliant and don't take crap off of anyone. I've worked with many of them, and have gotten along well with all of the ones I've worked with. I respect them... and that respect earns their respect.

Bela

Then ask yourself...why does the GOP only comprise of only 5% latin Americans? Why is it only 2% African American? Why is it Only 4% Asian, American Indian and Pacific Islander....The mostly white party has race issues, and until you stop saying what Democrats ahve not done for them, ask what the GOP is not doing to attract them into their party...if its true what you say , you wold have no problem garnering more of their votes...but the opposite is occurring

Bela: with friends like you, the Republican Party doesn't need any enemies. You're a walking billboard for why the Republican Party has become the party of hate, extremism and 'let em eat cake'. Wake up for heaven's sake... .

The GOP spends a lot of time, money, and effort to exclude, alienate, and oppress African Americans – and now Latinos as well.

Then they complain that these groups 'only vote for Obama because he's black'.

Do Republicans ever watch any of their own campaign ads?

the latino and black communites are still in this welfare state big government mentality!

....The mostly white party has race issues..., ask what the GOP is not doing to attract them into their party...

It's not a question of attraction.

It's what the Republican Party is doing to drive people away in DROVES. You don't have to look any farther than the idiotic comments about all blacks and Latinos wanting to be on welfare to see what drives people away.

Mitt Romney is as big a bigot as Lester Maddux was in the 1960s. It wins the bigot vote and helps win primaries.

It's also scary as all get out.

Okay, Maddux was worse. Mitt's still pretty bad. AND a hypocrite.

The GOP spends a lot of time, money, and effort to exclude, alienate, and oppress African Americans – and now Latinos as well. Then they complain that these groups 'only vote for Obama because he's black'.

I've never seen a more succinct yet accurate assessment.

Star Wars quote in Spanish. I like it!

Phinephancy: no, pollsters work even in off election years. The rest of us will be just fine.

No I do not. He has the power, name recognition and backing for the top spot. He doesn't want or need to play second fiddle to any candidate running today.

After what his brother did to this country Jeb Bush is smart enough to stay away, far away from either president or vice president. He knows that people's memories will recall the name and he won't have a chance. If Poppy wanted one of his sons to be POTUS he should have selected Jeb instead of George but George is the oldest so it was his turn. Too bad he ruined it for the others.

baldeagle,

The American people's memory is a short one. They will consider Jeb when and if he ever decides to run. Fact of life.

The American people's memory is a short one

Not that short...

Maybe when one of Barbara or Jenna's sons reach legal age to run, a Bush might have a shot at it!

While I don't know how Jeb would fare in a general election (depending on who he would be running against), he would be an odds on favorite for the GOP base.

Feisty, I think phinephancy may be right. Jeb Bush might be a viable candidate in 2016.

[You think Jeb might be V.P.]

I never thought I'd ever say this but...NO MORE BUSH!

Mickey, I simply posed a question. I lived in florida for 8 years and nothing there surprises me anymore.

no more bush...EVER...for anything

no more cheney....EVER....for anything

Sorry folks...I'm not providing links or any deep conversation... I don't have to on this subject do I???

I agree.

The country is not ready for another Bush.

sfcret:

I don't think Mitch Daniels will ever run for president. And Christie is so obese, he had better lose weight to endure the strain. Rubio is far too extreme.

Only problem with your way of thinking is they won't keep the house and they won't anything in the senate,probaly even lose a few.We see clearly through your BS.

Admetum- I don't think you would want the "real" Romney. He has signed Grover Norquist pledge not to raise taxes - in fact his tax plan again reduces taxes for the 1%

He supports Paul Ryan's plan on vouchers for Medicare

He has signed Huckabee's pledge to abolish contraceptives and go for personhood - ergo a baby is a baby at conception

He wants to bomb Iran - starting another war and wants to increase the military

And finally but not least - has donated large sums of money to organizations who believe homosexuality can be cured

Is this the President you want?

I don't mind bombing Iran/Iraq/All of the Sphincter of the Earth, but ONLY if this is a 100% saturation bombardment with a minimal 2 mile penetration, meaning the entire region of the earth is razed two miles below the surface, ensuring the complete and total obliteration of all life forms larger than bacteria.

Know Middle East, No Peace.

No Middle East, Know Peace.

Beyond that...

I can't speak for all women, but of those I know personally, I can attest that there is no room inside their wombs for the god of the right wing, their bible and a baby, so 2 of three have to go.

"Curing" Homosexuality - Nothing against the homo-, a-, poly- sexuals out there in the world, but... I'll come back to this at the end.

I have to plead ignorance on the Paul Ryan plan - please give me details.

The 1%...

I've lost track of how many times I've heard the "Play ball my way, or I'll take my ball to [some other country]" BS from them. Guess what. Get the F--k out and don't come back. The 99% will easily take over what you leave behind, make it better, cheaper, and use 100% American labor and you can be the 0% and starve to death where ever you decide to hole up and pout.

Thank you.

Ok, now back to the anything-but-heterosexuals...

I wish there was a cure, a real, honest-to-goodness, prayer-not-required, here-take-two-of-these-and-call-me-in-the-morning cure. And not because I have anything against you (collectively), but because I am so sick to death of listening to everyone else (collectively) pissing and moaning about non-heterosexuals.

Personally, I don't care who, or what, you love. That's 100% all your business, and I want it to stay that way. I've no more interest in your personal affairs than you have in mine, perhaps I have less, and again, it's not because I don't care about you (collectively) as people, but again, because of how much I am sick to death of hearing other people complain about it.

So if putting each different sort of person into "time out" until they can grow up and play nice with each other and keep out of people's private business AND people learn to keep their private business to themselves is what is necessary for the human race to grow up (collectively) then... it's really not a bad thing.

But...

There isn't. There's no more a cure for being anything-but-heterosexual than there is for being a narrow-minded, right-wing bigot, and I'd love to see the cure for that too.

Barbara - I don't even want that person as my neighbor!! ...let alone the resident of the WH.

lollllllllllllllll

with 50% of the population not paying taxes of course he has a large base.

let's see how it turns out in Nov.

tick... tock...tick... tock

[with 50% of the population not paying taxes...]

There's that convenient GOP/Tea Party lie again...you must be so proud.

alex, you know nothing. just sit back and watch him win. you watch WAY too much Fox news.

Alex: I thought the wing nut talking point for the day is that Wall Street has supported Obama and he's fantastically rich-- (or are you going to argue that all of wall street pays no taxes?) Out here on planet earth, where real working Americans on main street pay a whole lot of taxes out of regular old paychecks, we know who pays the taxes and it sure isn't the guys trying to argue that social security is "welfare" and that you're better off trying to argue with your insurer on getting any kind of health coverage rather than getting everyone to pay something. Here on planet earth, there's nothing wrong with the rich guy avoiding millions and millions with his Cayman Island and Swiss accounts---we just don't want him leading the country so he can work to destroy what little we have left. Thanks, but we'll stick to the guy steering the recovery after the Bush debacle, thank you (that'd be Obama).

Great post

Alexin PA: STILL haven't learned what a "socialist" is?? There is no government takeover in the US, (no, not even if you hate the President). Social security isn't welfare, feeding poor kids doesn't make us a socialist nation (even when Bush did it). Those of us without Cayman Island accounts pay quite a high percentage of our incomes to keep our schools going, our roads paved, our nation defended, and whiners like you from destroying our basic freedoms. That's exactly why we vote for the democrat: to keep idiots from office who would lecture those who do more work in a day than you are capable of in a year, from calling our government "socialist" because we dare to give a damn about other Americans.. tick..tick...tick...(long, long time until 2017. Maybe use that time to find a good 5th grade government text book??)

In 3 years -> killed Bin Laden - which GOP couldn't do in 8.

In 3 years -> saved our auto industry - which the GOP (and Willard the rat) wanted to let die.

In 3 years -> took out Khadafi with *NO USA CASUALTIES* (a foreign policy masterpiece), Khadafi who Reagan tried and *failed* to get rid of 30 years ago.

Oh well, GOP has Romney and Gingrich to offer American instead.

No wonder - you're in such a bad mood all the time. :)

Actually he did more than what the idiot president before him couldn't do in 8 yrs in office. That's create real jobs. Since 2010, more than 3 million jobs were created. Romney jobs creation rank 47th as a governor. That's not good or anything to convince voters. In the debate if romney is the nominee he will lose all 3 of them cuz he has no great record to back anything up. Come election he will do worst than mccain amongst actual latino voters. Obama will get nearly 3/4 of the latino votes compare to romney 1/4. That's a big different.

ScommaG - Romney is out and out telling a lie about his stance on homosexuality - he gives large sums of money to organizations who believe you can "cure" homosexuality - sort of like Bachman's husband's clinic who thinks you can "pray away the gay"

Romney is a hypocrite!

Mitt Romney has so much wealth, he should hire a fact checker before he open his mouth, don't you think?

Many Republicans don't like fact checks because they are proven wrong on so many issues.