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JACKSONVILLE, FL -- It seems turnabout is fair play in Florida, where a prominent supporter of Newt Gingrich showed up this morning at a rally for Mitt Romney following a week of Romney surrogates crashing Gingrich events.
Rick Tyler, a senior strategist and spokesman for Winning Our Future, a pro-Gingrich super PAC, held court at the back of this morning's Romney gathering in Jacksonville.
"I was trying to tweet out the event -- I couldn’t keep up with the lies," Tyler told reporters. "Mitt Romney seems to have a congenital defect. He can’t distinguish the truth from a lie. And that’s evident in his ads, its evident in his speeches."
Tyler, who said he was "having a great time" at the Romney rally, spoke at great length about what he said were Romney's misrepresentations of the former House speaker's record, Romney's character, and his predictions for how the race would continue after Florida.
He called Romney a "disgraceful and despicable candidate," and said that the former Massachusetts governor lied about his record there on issues ranging from abortion to tax increases.
Tyler's appearance follows a week in which prominent Romney supporters shadowed Gingrich at a number of the speaker's events in Florida. Most prominently, Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz attended a few events, during which Gingrich's spokesman, R.C. Hammond, got into an audible argument with the congressman.
There were no such fireworks between Tyler and Romney staffers. Several members of Romney's advance team seemed aware of Tyler's presence, with one hovering nearby, but no one confronted Tyler during, or immediately following, the rally.
"I’m trying to be a good guest. I wasn’t offered any coffee and it's cold in here, but other than that..." Tyler said.
Tyler admitted Romney's nearly five-to-one advertising advantage here in Florida would ultimately have an effect on the results here, but said Gingrich was still getting "huge" crowds.
As for his post-Florida predictions for Gingrich's campaign: " He’s going to go on. I guarantee it. I raise you my right hand."
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The people of the USA don't want either of these idiots ! Neither is electable, and neither would be a competent president !Newt is way to angry and Romney looks like he is high on speed!Neither can tell the truth .
Speak for yourself InPS. You can't claim anything for the people of the USA except for you alone. While you are entitled to your opinions, they are yours alone.
That's you opinion InPS. Your statement represents the problems in the government. It seems if you don't agree with somebody 100% then you're just wrong, not worthy. But, if I had to guess, you're not voting for either of these people anyway.
Politicians telling the truth is an oxymoron
Don't y'all just love these 'smash mouth' type tactics and politics these republicans play? And they want to run the country, like this?
Better suited for wwe....Let's get ready to RRRRRUMBLE!
They love the strong arm gang tactics.
phancy - let's get that oxymoron down to the basic roots... morons will do just fine! :o)
BB, I stand corrected!!! :)
Think Progress:
Three immigration activists interrupted Mitt Romney's stump speech in Miami last week, shouting, "Why are you trying to separate our families?" and "What about equality?" Romney ignored the three hecklers, who said they were part of the DREAM Act movement. This is not the first time Romney has been targeted by students because of his promise to veto the DREAM Act or for his extreme immigration views — the harshest among the GOP presidential field. "We are here for a pro-family agenda. Pro families that are undocumented, pro families that have parents who are same-sex couples," one activist said. "Romney has a platform that is anti-family."
Did you see that? Romney ignored them. It's only their entire futures that are on the line. If you watch Romney, he has a tendency to turn his back on people he doesn't want to engage in. Just turns his back on them and completely ignores them.
David Alexrod: Jeb Bush recognizes what Mitt does not: that our diversity is a strength, and not a wedge.
These fools are going to break out in fist fights pretty soon!
Kinda like the lefty liberal heroes on occupy Oakland.
John,
You know the occupy Oakland protesters are 'lefty liberals'... HOW?
Can't wait to hear your explanation...
Actually Ursula, I'd rather see them fight it out than just be all stoic and do nothing. The stakes are high and they are going after it like it means something. Of course the liberals would rather them disappear, but as long as they are battling it out, it does 2 things... provides some really good entertainment, and shows people that they are actually trying to climb on top of each other.
Kinda like the lefty liberal heroes on occupy Oakland.
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It should be entertaining today if the NPS follows through with enforcing regulations prohibiting camping and the use of temporary structures for camping at McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza in DC. These Occupy clowns have promised some "surprises" in store for the NPS if they try to put them back in their clown cars and make them drive away.
BTW, Nasty, the Occupy clowns are mostly looking for a free ride. That makes them "lefty liberals", as sure as the sun comes up in the east every day.
I know you won't mind if we don't take your word for it *wink wink*
Anyone seen John?
Still waiting for a cognitive answer unlike the one from the idiot in Albany!
You should ask the executives at Move-on.org who are courting them into their organization
Fistfight...Fistfights you say? Between these two little girls? (Absolutely no insult intended toward little girls). Frankly Mob Wives is more entertaining than watching Newt and Romney going at it!
These fools are going to break out in fist fights pretty soon!
I'll put $20 on the two faced one that can't stop lying!
nisl - Obama doesn't have a fight in this just yet.
Guess my mistake was thinking John was capable of a cognitive answer...
My BAD!
Hey, You just might be on to something there. Seeing as how Fox now televises that UFC crap maybe they could use that format to settle the GOP nomination with the last four at their convention.
Sorry lefties you guys own Occupy it's all yours! Obama and Warren are the groups CO-CEO's!
The only free riders in this country are the wealthy who want a 0% capital gains tax and the corporate interests fighting for a 0% corporate tax rate.
I'll take OWS any day over the terrorist, murderous, bombing anti-abortionist Christians.
I'll take OWS any day over the terrorist, murderous, bombing anti-abortionist Christians
Since there's a bombing every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, I can imagine you would RedDevil. It is such an epidemic problem in this country I can understand your viewpoint. Now if you will, clean up the mess OWS makes in our cities... You said you'll take them. I'd appreciate you disinfect those areas too. I wouldn't want there to be a rampant spread of disease.
This man crush is flattering, but sorry Brian, I'm not going to play sausage grinder with you. Speaking of which, the right also owns the gay basher-killer set. The right owns the race killer set. Nothing more disgusting than seeing, in this day and age, a black man tied to the back of a pickup truck being dragged to death, or a gay man tied to a fence post and beaten to death.
What is it about the right that they feel the need to persecute and kill? Yet they abhor the constitutional privilege of demonstrating, comparing it to the "rampant spreading of disease".
The only spreading of disease going on is hate, which again, the right owns, lock-stock and barrel. For some, it must be that spread of time between conjugal visits.
RedDevPS: The problem with the right is that they are not comfortable in their own skin....most homophobes are just insecure with their own sexuality....that's the big problem.
As for lefties being out for whatever they can get....I've worked every day of my life (over 45 years of working for a living), I was in the military for 23 years, and I also participated in Occupy Long Beach, of which was NOT a "camping" trip for the homeless! Just because we don't believe as you uber conservatives doesn't mean that we don't want the best for everyone in the U.S. and just don't believe that any Republican running can get that.....sorry that you can't see the difference!
Red Dev PS you are just as guilty of being intolerant when you lump all Christian's and conservatives together.
@ Didi I don't disagree with some of the OWS basic ideals just not all. Here in my city it was funny the OWS people were for all the people until the homeless starting coming by for free food that the OWS people were bringing in. News crews captured the OWS complaining about the homeless wanting food, seems their generosity only went so far. They were all about someone else taking care of them as long as it wasnt coming out of their pockets.
I think Margaret Thatchers quote on this was quite appropriate for the situation
ksw - I did not lump all conservatives and Christians together. I was specifically speaking to a subset of bombing, murderous, anti-abortionist Christians. Not every conservative and not every Christian fits that category.
Now that is cleared up, the right does own that sub-group.
Oh, and kws,
By tagging any OWS or Occupy Long Beach movement with the term socialist shows not only your intolerance, but your ignorance of the movement. Funny, but when middle-easterners protest against their government, we compare it to democratic ideals of free speech, liberty, justice for all, blah, blah. But when American citizens protest, conservatives rush to call it socialism, marxism, communism. What is it with you people and your double standards?
@Didi - GO OCCUPY LONG BEACH!!!
@Reddev Chillout and don't get your underwear in a twist. I just said Thatcher's quote for the actions of the OWS group in my city was appropriate. I did not say all OWS were socialists. Just like you did not say all Christians were murderous anti-abortionists.
Read away dadel .. that is, if you can. While you may think 4-5 times is a non-event, I think it quite tragic. We have a clear understanding of your thoughts on terrorist attacks - laissez-faire. Oh, and it isn't 4-5 instances of terrorism, it numbers in the hundreds .. and those are just the documented cases.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
Bible Spice has spoken; Annoy a liberal and vote Newt!
Come on FL voters - this is your chance to annoy the hell out of me!
VOTE NEWT!
and vote often.
Hey Brian,
That's your best post yet!
Yeah Devie... I thought it was a great response. Thanks!
The best way to annoy a liberal is to vote for the one person they are most afraid of. Listen to Obama's attack dog, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, DNC Chairwoman and vote for the one she keeps attacking. Vote Romney!
This is getting good! A bulldog (Newt) against a scorpion (Mittney) While Mittney may have a stinger, Newt has some pretty sharp teeth. I knew this wasn't over yet. It will continue all the way through tomorrow... watch for more stories and updates... Today should be an interesting day in Florida
This morning on Morning Joe I heard them bring up an interesting possibility. The reason Romney only reasoned a tax return for 2010 and an estimate for 2011 is due to the fact he might have paid near 0% on some of the prior years. Since nearly all of his income comes from investments, he could have had enough write offs due to losses on investments that he would have paid a tax rate of 0%, but still made millions of dollars that year. Nothing illegal about it, but when everyone is struggling, it will be hard to swallow no taxes and making millions of dollars. Too bad Newt can't get his hands on Romney's tax returns before the Florida primaries tomorrow. That would be a game changer.
BB
My little "focus" group (guys who work for Mr. phinephancy) are plain old fashioned mad. Mad at Newt for blowing the debate, mad at the GOP establishment, mad at Romney (who they just do not like) and mad that no "real" candidate is up for them to vote on.
The reason Romney only released a tax return for 2010 and an estimate for 2011...
Typo, reasoned instead of released.
Greg, even if Newt doesn't get the chance to use them now, if and when Romney becomes the nominee the Obama campaign will use them. I would imagine independents and folks in the middle will not be happy about that - or be willing to just shrug it off as having good accountants.
Greg @ 4.1. Yes, let's listen to morning Joe folks "speculate" and basically start rumors. And, as you noted, has anybody shown he did anything illegal? No. So quit criticizing somebody who has worked hard and done well. If you were in his position, I suppose you'd just willingly hand over 40%. I don't recall that Warren Buffet has done that yet, either. If you don't like the law, then change the tax code. Otherwise, stay off people who have done it honestly. There's PLENTY of tax cheats/evaders out there to go after.
phancy - Believe it or not, there is a lot of like anger across the nation. I don't know who could run this year that would make a big difference. Not many people are willing to expose their britches in a presidential run. Look at all the hay being made of the current candidates through the media, and, even though they really don't count at the moment, the liberals. Exposure like that does something to a person. You gotta really want to be President to make a go for it, or you end up self imploding, or in a pile of defeat. I can understand, given the conditions of this country, why it would be a hard choice to run. I can't name anyone who would want to take up the challenges they'd face, the criticism they'd encounter, and dealing with the yahoo's in Washington on a presidential basis.
While it is speculation, if you can't see that as a possibility then I'm glad I don't have you managing my funds. There is a high likelihood that when the market went down in 2008 that Romney had a tax rate approaching 0% because most of his income comes from investments and our government allows individuals to write off bad investments to lower their taxes. Romney most likely made several million dollars in 2008 and paid nearly $0 taxes because the market went from like 12000 to 6000.
As I said there is nothing illegal with it. I am just bring up the topic of the aesthetics of how it will appear if people knew a millionaire running for President made millions of dollars and paid $0 in taxes. It might not matter to you or I, but it might to some people.
BB
My little Florida "focus" group wants Jeb. But Jeb is the smart Bush and is staying away from all this insanity - at least for now!
Hey Dirt - did you hear of all the tax cheats in the Obama administration? I read a report where they owe the IRS an accumulation of over $800K. Talk about living with those in charge that don't even honor their obligations.
Brianb-
Who is a cheat and what do they owe?
Cheating on your taxes is a serious offence, like SLANDER and DEFAMATION. I always include a link to the SOURCE of my posts, where's the one about these UNNAMED CHEATS
Talk about repeating smears with no attribution or substantiation....
Individuals in EVERY administration have probably been guilty of some form of tax "avoidance" but to simply repeat a shotgun accusation without any proof or even attribution casts doubt on the accuser more than the accused...
https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+sdministration+tax+cheats&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=obama+administration+tax+cheats&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=wBG&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=nws&ei=RcomT463LYiv0AGt1pT5CA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=5&ved=0CBEQ_AUoBA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=45087d09adb57d92&biw=1440&bih=660
NOTHING....not a SINGLE news article in all of Google...
Reforming our tax code will require everyone to keep the issue in the forefront. I will do my part. Our tax code was bought and paid for by special interests and must be changed.
dirt-303814
Greg @ 4.1. Yes, let's listen to morning Joe folks "speculate" and basically start rumors. And, as you noted, has anybody shown he did anything illegal? No. So quit criticizing somebody who has worked hard and done well. If you were in his position, I suppose you'd just willingly hand over 40%. I don't recall that Warren Buffet has done that yet, either. If you don't like the law, then change the tax code. Otherwise, stay off people who have done it honestly. There's PLENTY of tax cheats/evaders out there to go after.
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This has been my argument against the experience of Romney. IMO, Romney's experience shows that he may well know how to utilize the Economy and/or Tax code to increase personal and corporate wealth, but that his experience has NOT created/altered an Economy where the whole benefits.
Romney's experience shows he knows how to USE, not CREATE an economy. I have yet to hear 1 person, including Romney articulate how the his experience in the Private Sector relates to what he can/will do in the Oval Office.
In such a crappy economic environment, it's difficult to take a guy seriously who has mae 40 million in ROI and Dividends in the last 2 years. Sweet Lord, if the economic times were 'good' what in the world would he have allegedly made?!?!?!
Put 2 and 2 together...you've made 40+ million in the last 2 years and yet you claim the President's policies have somehow destroyed or made worse the economy!?! Take your logic Mitt, "Investors are People too, my friend. Investors are People" No matter if your money is parked off-shore or on-shore, People and Business are doing things with their money. If they weren't you wouldn't be making 20 million a year.
From my perspective, you only have 2 arguments. Either the economy isn't as dire as you portray or it's a clear example of a system that is geared heavily towards the Haves vs. the Have Nots and made very effectively to keep it that way.
Neither, in my opinion work in your favor.
phancy - Jeb has a name recognition problem that probably won't go away for a while. He is smart to stay out of it for now. While I think he'd make a great president, based on the job he did in Florida, the media would slay him. They won't recognize the fact that he isn't GWB... and try to tie every fault onto him that his brother did while in office. The liberals would go crazy...
dangerfield - grow up. I said I read it, and I did. It was last week. I didn't save the link at the time. It was an AP story. All I did was ask if Dirt read it. I don't care how many links you provide... who are you to question anything I post? If you don't like it, you know what you can do.
Brian-
Who am I indeed! lololol
If you post here buddy, you are open to EVERYBODY responding. That is sort of the nature of the beast. You repeated a slander. You have no source. i understand your need to hide behind your pretenses here.
I posted the Google..there are NO LEGITIMATE sources...The personal BS is something I don't bother with...What if the "rumor" was about someone you supported?
It is always the same, from team Red or Team Blue; when you can't back up what you say attack the PERSON...
Show the source or admit it isn't true...it's really about your credibility, not your politics...
Hey Brian B - Just wondering why don't you support Santorum? Do you think it is a two man race, or a one man race if Romney wins Florida.
Dangerfield - as I said, if you don't like it, you know what you can do. I stated I read it. If you choose not to believe me, then that is your perrogative. Personally I don't care if you don't believe me. Because you choose to demand a link, doesn't mean I have to provide one because I didn't save it. My integrity is in tact because I know what I did. Notice I am not backing down from you... just because you say you want proof.
I will repeat. If you don't like it, you know what you can do.
I don't know why people have to post lies, or why they get all ":squirrelly" when they get caught; and that's what you did...that's all Brian. It isn't about personalities but veracity...
This is why Santorum must drop out...battle lines are clearly drawn...
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The most powerful dynamic in Florida over the past week has been the Romney campaign’s success at blunting the momentum from Gingrich's South Carolina win by seeding a gardenful of personal and political doubts about him. But the sheer ferocity (and success) of that assault, delivered in many cases by pillars of the GOP establishment like former presidential nominees John McCain and Bob Dole, has prompted leading conservative figures like Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, and talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin to deepen their identification with Gingrich in response.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/good-news-and-bad-news-for-gingrich-in-florida-20120130?page=1&mrefid=freehplead_1
Despite this;
Gingrich forces outspent by nearly $12 million on Florida airwaves
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/gingrich-forces-outspent-by-nearly-million-on-florida-112749.html
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This;
Polls show Gingrich cutting Romney Fla. lead to single digits
By Meghashyam Mali - 01/30/12 09:25 AM ET
Two new polls show Newt Gingrich narrowing the gap with Mitt Romney in Florida, one day ahead of that state's crucial primary.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/207331-polls-show-gingrich-cutting-romney-fla-lead-to-single-digits-
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Romney Spokesman Behind Plan to Redistrict Allen West out of Office
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/29/romney-spokesman-behind-plan-to-redistrict-allen-west-out-of-office/
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Not that Romney had the Tea Party vote anyway, but this will fuel turnout at the very least...
dangerfield, the odd thing about that redistricting is the fact our governor rode into power on the back of the tea party. Of course, he is not exactly Mr. Popularity now.
side note I heard on my local ABC news station. Some teenagers wrote a rap song for Newt.
Titled "Hoot for Newt"
Mitt Romney seems to have a congenital defect. He can’t distinguish the truth from a lie. And that’s evident in his ads, its evident in his speeches.
Wow, coming from an ally of Newt Gingrich this is about the biggest compliment possible.
So where will he go and what will happen to all the Super PAC money when Romney wins the nomination? Or visa versa?
There are lies and vitrol coming from both Romney and Gingrich. Eventually the Republican party is going to have a nominee and that nominee is going to, and rightly so, expect support from the entire party. With the division I see now I doubt there will be the usual cohesivness int he Republican party this time around.
Historically it is the Democrats who squabble and refuse to support the ultimate nominee but this time around it is the Republicans who normally rally around the ultimate nominee of their party.
It is okay to have rivalries and campaigns where friends can argue about issues but Gingrich and Romney have carried their disagreements to a higher level. Meanwhile the Democrats sit back and chortle at the spectacle while preparing to take on which ever of those clowns is the nominee using what his opponent did against him and laying on some new stuff to boot. GOP money will have been spent and spent and spent by those two (money that could feed poor kids or give medical treatment to Americans) just to get their party's nomination. How much will be left to go against Obama in the Fall? Obama is quietly collecting for his campaign and his Super PACs don't need to spend now but to collect enough for the Fall campaign and outspend whichever GOP/TP candidate is nominated.
As much as some folks may be angry at or disappointed with Obama compared to his opponent he'll look a whole lot better. Sadly another least of the evils vote for some people. For others it is clear that they will vote for Obama anyway or they will vote for the Republican anyway even if the Republican had horns, a tail and carried a pitch fork.
Any one is free to go to these events. But the desperate comments by the Gingrich supporters are a joke.
I'll just say this, for the GOP sake this process keeps going because if not Mr. Romney will get dusted.
I just don't understand why so many seniors in Florida are going to vote for Romney....do they actually READ what he's said he's going to do IF he's elected president? Do they realize that he wants to do away with Medicare and Social Security? Their way of life as it is now will be drastically changed, and for some reason, they can't see that!! Apparently, they do not actually read the papers or watch the REAL TV other than the ridiculous advertisements. Either that, or they are so engrained with voting for a Republican, no matter WHO it is, that they can't see themselves doing anything else!! I hope, for their sakes, that President Obama is re-elected (and he WILL be) or they will be in serious jeopardy!! If they only knew.......
those gosh darn Republicans are beating each other senseless , but Obama still goes down , that'll make it even harder too take ,,, rough
oldworker Brad: Yeah, good luck with that!
Love visiting the far left and hear them talk about the right. As an independant they all should go and we should start over with new people. As for Romney and his lying well it is true he is. Gingrich was finally aquitted of the charges and resigned due to the loss of seats in the following election and drop in support of his party so he stepped aside. This is America folks do your research dont rely on these talking heads they have their own agenda. Find your candidate research him or her and do your homework that is how you are supposed to do it. Thank you and have fun tearing my post apart.
I hate to see this mud-wrestling, roller-derby mentality being displayed for all the world to see. We as voters of either party should let it be known that all this hate, hurt and bad behavior WILL NOT GET SOMEONE ELECTED!
I tried to teach my kids to "play fair" and take the high road, not stoop to the lowest level just to win anything - let alone the leader of the US.
Sickening politicians - all of them regarless of party involvement!
UnitedStates1776
The Republican Party is opposed to the migratory reform and for decades.
He likes the Republican Party the completely broken disfunctional system the laws of immigration.
Obama did an agreement with the Republican Party that was going to make to fulfill the immigration quotas of deportation to the maximum if the Republican Party of agreement to take the migratory reform.
The Republican Party of agreement because they were thinking that it would be impossible that Obama actually to reach the quotas. But the president has supported completely his part of the negotiation and now the Republican Party has refused to support his part of the dealing.
Obama is the only way to achieve the real migratory reform. and that the need to vote to end all the republican obstructionists in the Congress, so that we could advance in these very important reforms.
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dangerfield, the odd thing about that redistricting is the fact our governor rode into power on the back of the tea party. Of course, he is not exactly Mr. Popularity now.