PANAMA CITY, Fla. -- In the final days of campaigning before Tuesday's pivotal Florida primary, former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney's campaign is leaving no weapon unused against his chief rival Newt Gingrich.
At his afternoon rally Saturday, and on television, Romney's attack centered on Newt's history within the Republican party.
"He's an historian. But that doesn't give him the right to rewrite history," Romney said of Gingrich. "The Contract with America, that was a good thing. We took over the House, that was great news. What happened four years later? Well he was fined for ethics violations. He ultimately had to resign in disgrace. He can't rewrite history. We have to go back and look at history and say he may be a great guy with a lot of great ideas, but he is not the leader we need at a critical time."
Meanwhile, on television screens across Florida, the Romney campaign was up with a new ad titled "History Lesson," which excerpts an NBC Nightly News broadcast from 1997, in which anchor Tom Brokaw is seen reporting the news of Gingrich's ethics violation.
NBC News on Saturday wrote a letter requesting the Romney campaign remove all network material from the ad.
Romney campaign adviser Eric Fehrnstom said after the event that the campaign had received the letter and was reviewing it, but believed it fell under legal "fair use" guidelines. In the meantime, the ad will continue to air across Florida.
On a third front, Romney surrogates Saturday continued to appear at Gingrich campaign stops, chatting with reporters and jousting with Gingrich campaign spokesman R.C. Hammond.
Fehrnstrom described the surrogates -- Reps. Charlie Bass (R-NH), Connie Mack (R-FL) and Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) -- as a "truth squad," and said the Romney campaign got the idea from Gingrich, who has promised to trail President Obama around the country to seek out opportunities to debate the president, should Gingrich become the Republican nominee.
The Romney campaign would not say if the "truth squads" would continue after the Florida primary.


WHOA!
Sounds like Willard had an extra helping of 'full of himself' for breakfast this morning!
So Romney got his hand slapped for copyright infringement by NBC?
hahahahaha
Charge him with piracy and take down all his websites! Guilty until proven innocent, like under SOPA. Right GOP?
Where is Rep. Lamar Smith when you need him?
I have been gone for a week but nothing has changed.
For some reason Feisty you do not display the common courtesy of addressing someone by their preferred name.
i understand that Willard is the Governor's first name but he has been called Mitt for decades. If a business associate had asked you to call them Mitt rather than Willard would you insist on calling them Willard.
James - have you ever objected to someone calling Obama "Barack Hussein"?
Probably not, since just two weeks ago you were applauding someone calling him "obummer":
#3.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM PST
Real -- I do not care for any of this though the comparison would more accurately be to call the President simply Hussein. Do you generally use the name an individual has asked to be called by or do you use something else? That is the point. It is not a left or right thing but a courteous thing.
James,
Why are you & Willard so ashamed of his first name?
Good catch Real American First!
I'm sick & tired of the poutrage exhibited from the right!
James - it's just amusing to me how the "courtesy" thing only seems to come up when you're defending right-wingers.
Yet Palin can put cross-hairs on congressional districts and talk about "Second Amendment remedies", and Joe Wilson can yell "You lie" during the State of the Union.
Not even in the same league as "Willard".
If you follow feisty's posts, she has no courtesy. She is a person who thinks anyone who believes differently than she, or has another opinion is an idiot. Basically all she does is call people names and say all conservatives are stupid. But, hey, liberal logic at work.
...Says JC in a discourteous post about Feisty. Or is that only allowed the fringe right wing?
I don't think all conservatives are stupid.
I just think they're self-serving, unsmart or uneducated.
There's hope for everyone, though. I mean, even the Grinch and Scrooge saw the light eventually.
Feisty -- It has nothing to to with being ashamed of his name. My father's given name was Joseph but was know to all by his middle name. This is very common.
Would you be kind enough to share with us why it is so important for you to use his first name when he clearly prefers his middle name?
Is it showing common courtesy to a fellow human being that causes your childish behavior?
Perhaps you could share with us, James why it matters a hill of beans what Mittens is referred to on FR? I rarely call him anything but Mittens. Could you also reflect on the free speech that all of us are entitled to and understand that you simply cannot dictate what people call Mittens?
guys!! this is not a free speech question! it i a courtesy question. forget about Governor Romney and President Obama. Think of folks in the service industry that wear a name tag while at work serving you. Would you refer to them by the name of the tag or by something else?
Feisty -- You got me worried with this comment of yours from above:
Probably not, since just two weeks ago you were applauding someone calling him "obummer":
Do you track everyone's applause??
That's pretty scary, the word stalker comes to mind.
But "obummer" is okay, James?
Great example of a right-winger hypocritical hissy-fit.
And it wasn't Feisty who brought up your past, it was me.
Newt, is that really you? ("Please don't look at anything I've done before - just vote for me!")
Sorry James, it is a free speech question. The comparisons you offer between service people and Mittens running for President are not analogous. I don't have to see that service person on my TV day in and day out.
Moreover, this is not the issue for you, you simply wanted to challenge Feisty. Find something more substantive to make that challenge. This is petty.
RealAmericansFirst: James post at 1.13 shows what he is really interested in. He wants to make a personal attack on Feisty, and I can guarantee that she is not going to talk to you james, you are simply too pedestrian.
The "stalking" james, is being done by you.
So, done wasting my time with this too.
Romney is only doing what Obama did. I wonder how much the shoe will hurt when it is on the other foot.
Okay people, this mudslinging is getting out of hand. The next thing you'll hear is that So-and-so wet the bed until he was eleven, if he can't control his bodily functions, how can he control a country?
I am so fed up with both Gingrich and Romney, that I probably won't vote for either one. At this point in time, I'd rather vote for the FLUFFY GUY (Gabriel Iglesias), at least he just pokes fun and not get personal.
It's time for everyone to grow up and act like adults and not act like if I can't do this I'm going to take all my stuff and go home. The world is laughing at all the foolishness that these candidates are doing.
You both say you'll do this and you'll do that, how's that working for Obama, not very well. Say what you are gonna do, but when it comes down to it, Congess WILL tell You what will and what won't get done.
I didn't fight in the Vietnam war for nothing, so all concerned, get a life and God Bless America.
Put God back in the Whitehouse and see how fast this country turns around. We were founded on Freedom of Religion.
RealAmericansFirst
RIght wingers believe they have a God-given right to be discourteous to anyone they disagree with, but everyone is supposed to kowtow to them and their favorite demagogues. It hasn't gotten much coverage, but I'll bet the right wingers whining about calling Romney "Willard" would be outraged to find out that someone shouted "Liar" at tea bag governor Scott Walker when he was giving his State of the State speech in Wisconsin. Maybe the shouter was using as his role model Joe Wilson, the Republican Congressman who shouted "You lie" at the President of the United States -- and got a spike in campaign donations for doing it.

James stop picking on the defenseless.
They truly believe Obama is good for the country and with that they will stoop to whatever level to support their lunacy.
I like Feisty, nice posts Feisty makes. Those offended may need to check your wrong facts and then see a therapist about your denial problems. GJ Feisty
james-1937467
The word "hypocrite' comes to my mind. Recalling comments made a couple weeks in the past and catching someone in rank hypocrisy the way RealAmerican (NOT FeistyRedhead) caught you is not exactly the same thing as stalking.
james-1937467 is just a pseudonym for R. Sole.
Fair Use
Hmmmm...
Kind of surprised that Romney is still being so aggressive. I thought the Republican establishment was just going to put their finger on the scale in favor of Romney, but they have been pounding Newt for 3 days now. Newt must have really scared him in South Carolina, some of the Tea Party might like what Romney is doing, but it isn't positioning him well for the general election with moderate Republicans and Independents. This reminds me of 2008, John McCain did the same thing. The candidates are moving, so far to the right in the primaries that it is leaving them poorly positioned for the fall. Maybe another failed election cycle will help the Republicans learn about moderation before 2016.
J.C.-1016889
Feisty, Newday, Forrest, phine, ideology? And any other First Read vets out here who know me for the conservative I am,
Do you all consider me an idiot? or, by any chance stupid?
Lets see if we can't put this so-called "Liberal/Conservative" logic to bed for once, because they they are both guilty of it and it illustrates a very slow mind.
Good Evening Egilman,
Just popped in. Is someone picking on my favorite conservative? Bring 'em on! I tear them apart! LOL
Seriously, folks, don't know what's going on, but I ALWAYS have Egilman's back! Just because I lean left and he leans right, doesn't matter a bit. We learn from each other and respect each others point of view. The way REAL AMERICANS are supposed to (and Canadians)/
Egilman,
What in the world is going on here tonight? Do we need to start singing sweet songs to soothe the savage beasts of the hyper-partisans out here tonight?
All actually Willard Mitt Romney
was named after hotel magnate J. Willard Marriott, his father's best
friend, and his father's cousin Milton "Mitt" Romney,
So if I'm reading this correctly "Mitt" is a nickname for Milton
Like "Jim" for James or "Bill" for William or "Bob" for Robert - so what's the big deal? Willard Mitt Romney is his legal name and I see nothing wrong as addressing someone by their legal name
"Much ado about nothing!"
For myself, I am trying hard (not always successful, but I try) to be respectful in the names. That way no one can be offended by it, and real issues can be discussed. So, I just call them by their last names (except for Newt - too lazy to keep typing out Gingrich).
phine,
Nuttin I can't handle girl, but you already know that ;-)
yeah the juvies are really out tonight....
It's getting very nasty, isn't it? The dingbats throwing enough garbage at each other to arm their Democratic opponents for decades. What is their plan? Needless to say, is that the same plan they have for running our government if they should magically win a single office?
They are like a zoo exhibit full of monkeys. They throw their own excrement against each other, their own enclosure and at the spectators in hope that something or anything will stick. When something does stick, they chatter excitedly among themselves and throw even more excrement.
The crowd moves on to a more regal exhibit of lions or tigers that maintain their dignity and pride despite the bars and keepers that deprive them of their freedom. They may occasionally utter an angry growl in frustration at their keepers or spectators, but they never waiver in the belief that they will one day set themselves free.
The monkeys are fun and a barrel of laughs. When they get out of control and start slinging nasty crap at everything in sight, it's time to move on.
Egliman: It is important to distinguish "conservative" from fringe right wing. Buckley was a conservative. Rush Limbaugh is fringe right wing. You are a conservative, james is fringe right wing.
One is thoughtful, (conservative) the other is reactionary (fringe right wing).
That is an important difference.
The more republicans treat each other like they have treated our president, the less some republicans will like it. This is just the tip of the iceberg, it will get worse, at least I have not seen any pictures of the republicans candidates with a bone through their nose, or painted like the joker. You can not defend it in one instance and then be outraged by it in another instance.
Egilman is a gentleman plain and simple, it has nothing to do with his politics or the politics of those he responds to.
Hi, Forrest...hope you are well!
what does poutrage mean?
Oh the humanities!
Egilman - ditto what NDD said!
You, Grimey and a handful of others are a rare breed!
{{{hugs}}}
Bravo Barbara!
Anything to create a diversion from what they're agenda is....
Hey New Day I had my last treatment of a six week series last week, was in DC all this week, I am fine, I am going to be real busy, so I won't be on the board as much.
I'm so glad to hear it Forrest. We miss seeing your posts and look forward to when you have more time for us. Say hello to Mrs. Grump and all the Grumpsters for me!
Romney is the GOPs best choice, he has the gift of Insta-Pander.
Romney should be on the curb by WalMart with a cardboard sign that says "Will Pander for Votes"
Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen All of you!
HEY JC,
Have I made my point? If you read more and type less it just might speed up your mind, and you would have friends that are more than just hangers on!
True Liberals are like true Conservatives, we may differ on the small points but we understand logic and respect those amongst us that do also, we can have conversations that don't fall into diatribe, and we don't need to roll over and have a smoke when we are done, the world is a much bigger place to us.
I'm not putting you down, but advising you that there is a whole new world out there when you adhere to the rules of civility, respect and common decency. People who apply POUTRAGE to their discussions get laughed at and left behind.
Please wake up and join the REAL world, it is much more entertaining, invigorating and satisfying when you are given respect for your positions because you can respect theirs.
It is better to give than to receive, you want respect start giving some...
Hows that for Liberal logic.
Brilliant, Egilman!
Sort of reminds me of Obama and Brewer, much ado about nothin.
Though the argument between them sold more of Brewer's book. What is it with the GOP trying to sell books?
Ok, so are the Dems, but it just seems that more GOP are on the book signing circuit.
This is starting to sound a lot like shoot out at the OK Corral. Question is which side will be the Earps and which side will be the Clantons? (How about that for some history?)
More like the Hatfields and McCoys.
Politics the spectator sport!! What will be next?
Jousting on the Discovery channel to the death!!!!!!!!
Hunger Games?
But that would require finding some Republicans who were actually hungry....
Please, no jousting until after the dinner hour! Made the mistake of having some program on that showed a decomposed body - couldn't hardly eat for a week!
My bad i should have asked what will they do next. Newt and Mitt, They can pull out their big sticks, jump on a horse and then do each other till the death.
Earps and Clantons? Hatfields and McCoys? How about -- to go all jimmy Breslin -- The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight and/or -- certain bus names of recent antiquity to the contrary -- the gang that can't or won't talk straight?
Newt shows the country he's a perfect representative of the Tea Party's true "core values":
Marriage = a man + a woman + Callista
You are close to correct but the equation should be
Marriage = a man + a woman + another woman - a woman + another another woman - another woman
hummmm I' seen an equation like that before but for the present I forget where.
I am puzzled about Newt as historian, he seems to make it up as he goes along. But, Romney and truth...isn't THAT a bit of a stretch?
I am a historian, (amateur) and newt doesn't hold a candle to a real historian, and yes he makes it up as he goes along...
I come from a family that several Phd's in all areas of history. I know quite a bit myself. Newt's history is unlike any I have ever encountered. (Sounds weird, but hopefully you get my drift)
But, hey... he was able to sell it to Fanny & Freddie for hundreds of thousands of samoles
Okay, maybe it isn't REAL history and maybe it isn't true, but if it is worth that kind of moneyto someone somewhere.... (cough, cough;) (gag)
No, sorry. I was trying to help you out and defend you there Newter, but my conscience just won't allow me to co-sign what you are doing; it simply can NOT be justified.
They all enjoy predeceived misconceptions.
Newt is the world's best historian, and this must be true because as with every else Newt says about himself, he says so. Seriously, he gets away with it because he knows that his base will never fact check him, and the press only rarely does.
Probably true, Jon.
Just be thankful he doesn't take history lessons from Palin and Bachmann..... (just utilized the same tactics.)
Exactly who is this Feisty Redhead? Geez, every time I read an article on MSNBC, Feisty has the first comment. Does s/he not have a life? Does s/he wait by the computer all day and night to post anti-Republican jabs, in order to be "first"? How sad for Feisty.
Why on earth would you be bothered by something like that? Seems as though it says more about you than it does about her!
It does not bother me at all. I just find it odd. And sad that this empowers Feisty and her followers who click their approval of her silly comments. Seems to me that Feisty could find something better to do with his/her time. That's all.
But your time is gainfully spent being jealous of Feisty? Really? If you don't like what she writes or what I write, you have an ignore feature. Simply use it. Solves your problem.
This place is positively crawling with 'me-firsters' today! ☺
Feisty: new fans for the Feisty Fan Club...or are you not accepting new members?
Hey, I got the first comment over on another thread---I was covering for Feisty.
Yay for you Steeler Fan, that will definitely upset them.
seems you posted a mere forty four minutes later. Not exactly as if you had a job or a life.
I'm in the Feisty Redhead Fan Club and damn proud of it!!!! And brother do we have a job...standing up for a vision of America where truth, justice, and fairness prevails.
She is able to produce so many anti-republican barbs because it takes so little to create a legitimate anti-republican barb. Just sit and think straight forward logical thoughts and they come in batches.
Good one, Bob.
You did a might fine job SF! ;o)
silverflyer,
I am in the club also.
"Only very wealthy people like me and the Koch Brothers can use their money as influence to rewrite history." Romney states. "Gingrich isn't that wealthy yet."
Ana,
As i posted on a previous thread: Romney can pay every GOP house member to be his surrogate ot truth squad. He will still have millons left over.
Hey Mr. Congressmen, Why are you not in your home district working for the people of your district?
lawl have you ever seen the House calendar? It is a complete joke.
2012 House Calendar
Must be nice to have a $174,000 per year salary w/benefits and to get so many days off. Newt wants to give everyone the Mitt Romney flat tax. While we are at it can we get the same number of days off as Congress? We can make every day they get off a national holiday.
Greg,
I don't think much of Congress either, but the calendar shows only 4 weeks off. Time spent in their districts - representing and working with the people - outside of Washington is what they are supposed to do.
If you think they are working on those days they aren't voting, then I have beach front property for sale in Arizona that I'd like to sell.
Even though it took some time, I went through and tallied the different types of work days during the week. There are 6 categories totaling 261 days.
On 28 of those days they don't vote until 6:30PM, so how much work is getting done on those days? On 26 days they cut out early and leave at 3:00PM. There are 40 more Constituent Work Weeks days then there are DC Work Week days!! The first three letters of constituent is ironically a more correct name, as I highly doubt our members of Congress are hard at work on them.
The no votes or blank alone is 47 days which is over 9 week. Not sure about your, but I only get 4 weeks per year of PTO.
Greg.
I record meetings and appointments on my calendar. I'm guessing Congresspeople record time they meet in the chamber or on the floor. The time not detailed on my calendar is time I still spend working - preparing for meetings, appointments and doing business. I'm guessing Congresspeople spend time preparing for votes, writing legislation, having committee meetings, wheeling and dealing, doing general business during their day -- and these wouldn't necessarily get recorded on the calendar.
Just saying - there's probably a lot going on when they aren't gathered in chamber. And part of the job is spending time in the districts of the people they represent.
Again, I'm not enthralled with Congress in general either, but picking on the hours they put in seems misguided.
You give our members of Congress much more credit then I do. In my opinion they are mostly faces. It is the un-elected staffers that create all the legislation and put in all the hours. Most of the members of Congress don't even know what is in the legislation they are voting on. Their staffers brief them, but most of them don't read it and even if they tried, I doubt they would understand all the legalese. The party leaders most likely suggest how to vote on the bills and most of them just follow. The members of Congress are there to press flesh and raise funds for re-elections.
Have you ever watched some of the committees on CSPAN or CSPAN2? Sometimes makes you wonder how they can get elected, but you just have to stop and think about how gerrymandered the Congressional Districts are. Of the 535 District, approximately 100 of them are truly competitive. So 435 members of Congress only have to worry about the primaries, which until recent usually went uncontested. With so few competitive elections, is it no wonder there is no accountability if they don't need to fear losing an election?
I've always thought being in Congress should be a part time position with part time pay, pensions and Medicare to match. As it stands now, they work very little, get paid a bundle and are set for life when they leave. This is directed at both Reps & Dems. Not worth what we pay them.
Romney had better be quiet or Newt will send him to the moon.
If we're really lucky Dr. Paul will send them both :)
Romney or Gingrich, hmmmm, pretty tough call there righties. Both are pretty much equal lying, cheating, scumbags and neither gives a rat's ass about America or the American people. What exactly are the criteria here? Are you trying to vote for who is MORE of a scumbag?? Decisions, decisions...
Let's see - vulture capitalist owned by Goldman Sachs?
Or ethically challenged candidate bought by a casino mogul with foreign ties for $10 million?
What to do?
Obama/Biden 2012
Like Obama doesn't get big bucks from the same type of people. Can you say hypocrite?
So far this election cycle, Goldman Sachs has given $369,700 to Mitt Romney and $50,124 to Barack Obama (per OpenSecrets.org)
With all the howling the right did after GS contributed to BOTH Obama and McCain last time around, I can't wait to hear their justification of putting Romney in the White House.
From the Washington Post:
Obama outpaces GOP rivals — and his own 2008 results — in small donations
When you consider what the GOP is offering the Nation: Newt, Romney, Santorium, and Paul, Obama is looking pretty good these days!
Goldman Sachs didn't contribute corporate funds to the candidates. That's illegal. But when an employee of Goldman Sachs contributes to a candidate's campaign, the name of his or her employer must be disclosed. That's where those statistics come from, and that's why you'll see contributions from employees of the same company going to different candidates.
I can understand Brokaw's objection. Most ads using news anchors include several news sources - NOT just ONE source and ONE news anchor. This ad could give the perception that Brokaw is affiliated with Romney.
But this is just more of Romney's ad team's blinded hate - to use a Liberal news source against Gingrich.
This ad will hurt Romney if he doesn't remove it as requested- because Brokaw is well respected by the public, in general.
Marty -- So using a liberal new source against Gingrich is blinded hate?
What do you call it when Obama used Reagan as an example during the debt ceiling debate???
Give me a break! Brokaw a "liberal news source?"
Face it, anyone who has an opinion not express on Fux Noise is a liberal to TeaTurds!
Wow Grumpy, such an intelligent addition to the forum, I am absolutely awestruck.
Most media report the facts, which is why the idiotic righties claim a "liberal" bias. The facts are all on the democratic side.
I believe that CNN had a complaint about a political ad Mr. Romney's campaign showed (or maybe one of his pacs). They did remove the CNN part from the ad.
Leroy,
I'm pretty sure that the idiot righties might have a fact or two on their side also, but of course, I'm one of those idiot righties so my opinion doesn't count....
I'll give ya two right now,
Obama was Born, and his mother loved him.
President Obama WAS elected.
hows that for two facts from an idiot righty.
Pretty good for a righty Egilman, but now comes the tough question: WHERE was Obama born? If you can answer that one correctly, you are one of the less idiotic righties out there!
Whoa, Leroy. What a question. I don't post often, but see my fellow liberals seem to like Egilman and respect him. Let's see if he earns that respect and answers your question. Tick-tock.
This is precious, y'all are just waiting with baited breath hoping Egilman is a birther aren't you? Oh this should be fun. For the record, if he answers y'all are going to be the ones who look "idiotic"
If he answers Hawaii, then I will give him the respect that my fellow liberals do. If he doesn't answer at all, well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he didn't see the question. If he answers that President Obama was born "anywhere" else than in Hawaii, then that will speak for itself. Of course, he doesn't have to answer at all.
Sorry Fitzwife, nothing idiotic about that. The sentence "he was born" by egilman - now, that was idiotic, imo. Of course, he was born. Even people such as yourself probably have to admit that.
How is that idiotic? He WAS born, sorry you can't see the forest through the trees, or Egilman's point for that matter (not trying to put words in his mouth) yes he will say Obama was born in Hawaii just like I will say it, I know that probably takes all the air out of your sails, since that's really not the answer you were hoping for (you know it and I know it)
Egilman and I being conservatives does not make us Republicans, I won't tell you Egilman's political affiliation as it's not for me to say, I however am a Libertarian/Constitutionalist, a Conservative. We are not "idiotic righties" just because we don't see everything like you and leroy, differing opinions doesn't make any one "idiotic" it makes them different, it makes them Americans.
Spewing words like "repukes" and "libtards" is what makes one look "idiotic" and the reason our country is so divided, this isn't kindergarten.
Glad to hear that you and Egilman aren't birthers Fitzs, and also glad to hear that you distance yourself from republicans who are not conservatives anymore. The entire party have gone right off the deep end and are no longer a viable choice.
Well, since I never spewed any of those words in your quote, don't know why you referenced them to me. I wasn't hoping for any "special" answer - well, maybe I was. I believe in "hope." :)
I frankly don't care if you're a conservative, libertarian or whatever. That's entirely your own business and possibly problem. Have a good day.
Leroy, you have a good day, too. Anyway, I liked your question.
I broke it into three paragraphs which should have shown you it was not directed toward you other than the first paragraph.
Leroy I agree, the other three candidates scare the holy livin crap out of me, I've voted Democrat once in my life and Republican once, I despise the fact that Dr. Paul is having to run as a Republican which means I will again have to vote Republican, I am sad that our Government (on both sides) has run our country into the toilet, our Republic has lost it's way.
The one republican candidate I wouldn't mind as president is Buddy Roemer. Buddy is serious about limiting the money in politics and exposing the superpacs. He also recognizes the legitimacy of the OWS complaints, is the only republican candidate who could actually unite both sides and he wasn't given the time of day by voters.
Leroy,
This is what caught my attention...
Facts don't have a "side", they just "ARE"
I said he was born, that is a fact,
His mother loved him is not a fact, it is an assumption on my part, although I sincerely believe that she did.
Where he was born is irrelevant to the discussion.
Now, don't blam Flipper Rom for these ads. He knows NUTHIN'!!!
So can anyone say that Newt wasn't kicked out by his own party, fined for ethics violations and left in disgrace?
If so, do you also believe that OJ was innocent?
Right wingers have become so pathetic that a guy like Newt is what they believe in for leadership?
Why are Romney political allies always referred to as "surrogates" in these NBC/MSNBC articles? It's demeaning of course, that's why.
Adam,
The word surrogate is a fine word.
Here is the dictionary meaning.
transitive verb
: to put in the place of another: a : to appoint as successor, deputy, or substitute for oneself.
It describes these GOP Congressmen perfectly.
Surrogates is not a demeaning word, it's often used in political speech.
Now, if MSNBC called them shills, that would be demeaning.
Yes, I know it's a fine word and technically fits. I also think that it hints at something more like 'those who are directed, placed, and paid for by the Romney campaign.' You will not see headlines or reports (esp. headlines) about Obama political "surrogates" on MSNBC or NBC broadcasts. It's better than "supplicants" or "shills," yes, but still somewhat demeaning in my opinion.
NorthstarDFL,
I notice that you were already relishing in the use of the word "surrogate" in a pejorative sense before I made my post about it. So of course you are eager to defend the insinuation of Romney "surrogates" being 'bought and paid for' political hacks. Technical definitions of surrogate do not suggest financial compensation except where it is used medically, as in surrogate pregnancy.
Right, when Newt needs to get laid he always finds a surrogate - of course, she might be wearing neon spandex, but Newt is so special ordinary rules of behaviour do not necessarily apply.
Adam
They would refer to Obama's surrogates. It's pretty common term in political reporting.
Adam,
Oh Adam, you need to reread my post again.
I am outraged that it is elected Congressmen who are running around following Newt for Romney.
In any campaign it is very typical for a staff person, campaign worker or even supporters to follow the other guy and be present at their stops.
It is congressmen from NH, AZ, CA that we are paying with our tax dollars.They have been doing nothing for the American people while they are in session. And they are only in session three days a week , maybe two weeks a month. But they are all ready to walk around Florida on a weekend for Romney's primary contest.
Give me a break.
Does not matter who wins the nomination for the GOP at this point. The problem is a House and Senate that is do nothing , treading water, can't even pass a job bill to fix our bridges, dams and other intrastructure.
Adam, That is the source of my outrage. I hope I made myself clear.
Now you have a wonderful evening.
And I hope one of these were not your congressman.
This is why 56% of americans think they ALL need to be sent home....
Northstar----great points. I don't think that the people in the country who aren't political have any idea how little time Congress spends in session. Of course, given their abysmal approval ratings, maybe that is just as well But for Romney to have this entourage of elected representatives shadowing another campaign is over the top to me.
Sorry for sort of stalking you here, Egilman, but would you please go back and consider answering Leroy's question on the first page of these comments. According to the other liberals like myself (at least I believe they are) they respect you. So, consider answering Leroy's question about "where" you believe President Obama was born. Thanks.
By now, even die-hard Repugnicans must be getting disgusted with Mutt's shady, underhanded maneuvers and misleading negative ads. Can any American vote with a clear conscience for a corrupt, tax-evading flip-flopper of this kind?
Stop crying Optimist. Obama just can't fix it so we called in someone that can. Romney has to get tough to stop the slimey 1 billion dollar Chicago political machine that is going to try to con the American people into believing Yes We Can when No We Can't with an Obama ticket.
optimist
And what other choices do they have??Sad.
Must STRONGLY disagree there D.
Have you looked at the numbers and current indicators? Everything except budget deficits has improved markedly under President Obama's leadership, in spite of the road-blocks and obstructions GOP-tea Congressmen have put in the way (presumably to support McConnell's public position that they were working to insure only one term for Obama.) And, he is making relevant in-roads to controll the deficit. If there were co-operation from the legislative branch during the past three years instead of obstruction, Americia would actually be in pretty good shape today, I'm certain.
After the SOTU speech, I am convinced that - especially given the available alternatives - President Obama is the Man with the Plan (and with the ability) to "set things a-right" with this nation.
He asked in the SOTU address for co-operation and for us citizens to join in and support the United States; I am willing to ...are you?
President Obama's policies are not helping to set things right. In fact, his policies have hindered our recovery.
Compare this recession - that was terribly deep - to the terribly deep recession in the 81-82. In 81-82, the recession lasted 16 months, unemployment was over 10.8%. The 2008-2009 recession lasted 18 months and the peak in unemployment was lower.
Still, at this point in the recovery of 82, GDP grew by 16%. GDP in Obama's recovery increased only by 6%. During the Reagan recovery, 10 million jobs were created. During Obama's recovery --- we don't really know because no one can figure out "saved" or "created."
Lower permanent taxes, less regulation, less government spending and a more supportive business climate supported and accelerated the Reagan recovery. President Obama's increased regulations, temporary tax cuts, massive spending, growth in government and general bashing the private sector, has kept the recovery slow, uncertain and miserable.
President Obama promised to unite us citizens and get Washington working together. He's been unable to lead in those directions. Strong leaders overcome obstacles and obstruction - they don't use opposition as an excuse for ineffectiveness.
It's time to find someone else who can fix it.
Sorry Candice but that is the RNC/TEA B.S. that adheres to McConnell's plan to do everything (and anything) possible to make Obama a one termer, and is mostly UNTRUE spin.
Do you want me to get the graphs and numbers for you to see?
Obama has lower percentage of national debt increase than either Reagan (187%, the highest) or the Bushes;
Jobs have increased steadily since his fourth month in office after declining for eight years;
Our foreign relations is in much, MUCH better condition thanks to his diplomacy and policies;
The upper echelon terrorist leaders that predecessors failed to contain are nearly all dead or in prison and their organizations are in disarray and greatly hindered if not impotent;
He has accomplished a LOT in the face of tea-rnc-gop obstruction and public relations hype to create "nay-sayers" and errode support for this nation and her head-of-state.
And, in support of that last statement, I present YOUR own post. What you put up there simply is untrue, or at minimum, designed to present a VERY inaccurate picture. of this administration.
But, hey Candice... if you have chosen to ignore the SOTU address requests and not join in support of the United States, that is your perrogative; ain't American freedoms GREAT?
Candice, get a job with one of the GOP candidates. You too can twist history with the best of them. And you're not even a surrogate.
Operation bubble gum restricts my access to freedom of speech. I protest for my civil liberties granted by the Constitution of the United States of America.
Supression of the truth only reinenforces the truth. Rick Santorum will lead us into the promise land. His words are true and he believes in you and if you believe in him than we the people can win.
Sanctimonium?
Insanatorum?
sorry it is public information. romney will use it as long as he wants then he may say he was to busy to look into it. this will most likely be the correct answer. after all he willllllllll become the next president of this great country. maybe he can jail a few thieves in congress and straighten out their thinking and actions. correc t the corrupt insider trading / bribe taking / voting for special interests for profit/ you know just the normal things that go on in the big house with 1/2 attorneys there. HAHA A JOKE KEEPING MY CAPITALS OFF HERE /// CENSORSHIP BY A NEWS MEDIA / THE LOWEST TYPE !!!
Colin Powell in 2012, oops, forgot Bush and Cheney "used him up."
Republican using the mainstream media as a credible source. What is this world coming too.
Maybe someone else did this already, but if it's discussed, here's the link to the commercial ...
http://race42012.com/2012/01/28/new-romney-florida-tv-ad-history-lesson/
I can see NBC's point in not wanting to be on it ... since Brokow has to cover the election. But, on the other hand, it's probably legit "fair usage" if it's quoted and correctly cited.
Be interesting to see how this plays out.
Using something for personal gain is never "fair use."
Public Service is not personal gain or it shouldn't be. These jacka$$es getting rich off selling books and lobbying is using Public Service as personal gain and it makes me sick!! See "Leatherface" Brewer and her book selling tactics and Blingrich.
Blingrich actually lives right between Tiffanys in Tysons Corner and his lobbying offices on K Street. Oh so convenient!!!
I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of "Fair use". It has nothing to do with if it's fair (or good) to use or not, it has to do with the legal standing of the material's copyright ... or lack of copyright.
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Will they all band together behind whoever is elected, or stand individually on their "principles"? Boy, the GOP is a mess.
Good ole Willard--he's a douchebag no matter which name he uses. I'll just use Willard cause its fun to type, and it has apparently pissed someone off.
Willard is opening a huge can of worms if he doesn't win by more than 10 percent in Florida. That little speech on immigration is going to show up and kick him right in the Romneys when he gets to Alabama or Texas. And by Romneys, I mean balls.
Romney can't win this. He won't take Texas. He won't take enough out of Florida. He will get beaten like a gong in Carolina, Ga, Alabama. The Midwest doesn't really matter, because of the limited delegates he can get out there. No one gives a tin sh!t about Utah or Nevada or Arizona or New Mexico. If Gingrich wins Florida outright, its over for Willard.
Every single news story i read before each primary election talks about the FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION ON THE GROUND IN EACH STATE for Willard. If it is so great, why is he getting beaten like a Cambodian hooker? My guess is that the candidate just sucks. Polls seem to agree. Selah.
yes leroy brown the facts are all on the democrats side / fact they ruled both the house and senate with obama as a democrat president two years /they were to dumb/ stupid or corrupt to pass a budget and now want the republicans to help them. obama was to busy giving our taxpayer money away to his big shot friends on wall street and his banker buddies / poor people he gave nothing. 787 billion probably more than your brain can fathom. he could have built roads, bridges, dams, levies, planted trees, sewers and water purification / even dredged rivers. to bad harvard is pushing out people with supposed education. by the way why has your dem president hidden his thesis or did he really write one ? he said he would be a transparent president .. oh well i see right through him. he is a failure and if reelected we will soon be a third world country. he says we are not a christian country. why because he is muslim ? he cancelled our day of prayer but went on to pray with his muslim counterparts. he claimed a membership in a church in chicago with a so called pastor that cursed god and this country. how short the memories of foolish americans have come to be about things of substance. we need not worry about jihad, obama is destroying this country from the inside. HERE WE GO AGAIN CENSORSHIP OF CAPITAL LETTERS / WHO THE HELL STARTED THIS THOUGHT THAT CAPITAL LETTERS WAS SHOUTING ? WHAT'S WORSE IS THE IDIOTS THAT PRESCRIBE TO THIS THOUGHT.
You can't even get your Obama-hater talking points right.
Huh?
Everything you said was a paranoid rant without any basis in fact or common sense.
Man you need to join reality someday.
Randal put down that crack pipe!!
I'm sorry about the censoring of your capitals Randall. There is far too much censoring of posts.
Randall, as the late Patrick Moynihan stated "You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts!" Try some critical thinking instead of spewing hater nonsense.
Randall, Newt and Willard are looking for you. You're hired.
johnluci,
"Boy, the GOP is a mess."
This is what millons without end in superpacs will buy you. Gingrich and even Santorum can hang on as long as there are superpacs to support them or run negative ads against Romney.
As a liberal Democrat, I hope they keep spending... Romney will win the delegate count and then the real campaign will start.
James,
Notice how the liberals cannot really defend their lack of civility, so they deflect, deflect, deflect.
So obvious, and so petty.
I agree with you, if Mitt wants to be called Mitt, then, so be it. If Newt wants to be called Newt. No problem.
However, when Obama wants to be refered to as a "President",......well........That just won't fly. Sorry, but no.
Barack Obama is still the President of the United States whether you like it or not.
Joseph E. Parent
However, when Obama wants to be refered to as a "President",......well........That just won't fly. Sorry, but no.
Rather or not it flies with you or not.... Guess what? He's still the COMMANDER AND CHIEF/POTUS/MR. PRESIDENT. Even in the next four years to come..... Read um and weep. ;)
Hey Joseph who the hell are righties like you to talk about civility?
Joseph E. Parent
But it's OK for teabaggers to to yell the "N" word at black members of congress and holler "you lie" at the president of the United States?
joe e wants civility & respect whens he shows none. Talk about wanting your cake and eat it to. The only reason he is here is to annoy. To quote Ron White " You can't fix stupid".
Ol' usual Republican-teanut DOUBLE STANDARD.
Seen it all before, but will NOT allow it anymore!
It's okay if they're lying Houston, the other one (N word) not so much. Actually if put in perspective they're both okay as far as freedom of speech but socially unacceptable.
Joseph, Newt and Willard are looking for you too. You can be hired on to their campaign teams.
I want Newt to get the nomination for two reasons. First, he'll make it entertaining, and then he'll go down in flames.
You say NEWT will go down in flames if he was tobe our president well let me say this we'er already going down the wrong HIGHWAY BY THIS PRESIDENT NOW.
Besides the left and the right members on this blog.... I've not seen any of the left or right contenders running for president attack each other besides the right attacking each other.... Again I say they don't need the lefts help attacking the right, They are doing it just RIGHT on their own..... Shooting each other in the feet.
Higher and more to the Centerline , imo jmho .
Yeah, they (GOTP) can shoot themselves in the feet but it's not as fun as when we can do it. LOL