NBC News today is requesting that the Romney campaign remove NBC material from an ad that went up yesterday in Florida attacking Newt Gingrich for 1990s-era House ethics charges.
The ad prominently features then-NBC Nightly News anchor Tom Brokaw reporting in 1997 on the ethics charges at the top of the Nightly News broadcast that evening, Politico reported this morning.
"The NBC Legal Department has written a letter to the campaign asking for the removal of all NBC News material from their campaign ads," said Lauren Kapp, NBC senior vice president for marketing and communications, in a statement. Kapp added, "Similar requests have gone out to other campaigns that have inappropriately used Nightly News, Meet the Press, Today and MSNBC material."
Brokaw also released a statement voicing his personal concerns.
"I am extremely uncomfortable with the extended use of my personal image in this political ad," he said. "I do no want my role as a journalist compromised for political gain by any campaign."


Glad to see NBC standing up for its integrity. The problem is--by the time the ad is taken down, the damage has been done and the election will have happened.
Hard to see if NBC can win this, litigating will take months ... the horse has left the barn ... if they do, however, it will send a lot of super-pacs running back to the editing room.
Ideology---my guess is that they are using this as a reminder to all the campaigns and Super PACs as the elections heat up. Kind of like a pre-emptive strike.
I think I remember CNN asking the Romney campaign to remove their logo and some other stuff from a campaign ad. So this is not new for Romney.
Typical right wing ploy - like when they say something outrageous or circulate a blatantly racist e-mail and then cry; I was ONLY kidding...
You're 100% correct the damage has been done & no stuffing the genie back into the bottle!
So if that happens, FOX will be able to sue if its lies are used to state a truth ... oh the satire of it all.
And if Newt is the nominee .... and an Obama PAC runs the exact same ad .... you guys (with the possible exception of phinephancy) will all cheer.
You know it.
Funny that all the agencies / programs do the exact same thing to shape their story and narrative ... the late-nite comedians .... the Sunday talk shows .....
They can all do it for their purposes ..... just not the other guys, huh?
I saw this yesterday on.......MSNBC and wondered. Yet I have seen them run ads for some Fox shows over the past year or so.
Think you might be right SF, its more a warning to prevent more coming as the election season heats up.
bob---I want President Obama to win re-election without resorting to this kind of ad and I expect that he will. What the late night comedians and Sunday talk shows do is up to them but I hope they respect what is left of the integrity of the process.
Steeler Fan,
Actually, we haven't sen the depths of what this election is going to bring to the table. Swift boating or that hit piece that Dan Rather did (caused his firing) were a walk in the park compared to what is coming.
I sincerely wish there was some integrity to the election process, unfortunately we are going backwards in the integrity department, on both sides.
would a 900 million defecit be considered "damage" or is it just another day in the libs la la land Illinois?
You know, once public service was considered an honorable thing. Now, both sides have corrupted it. :(
Steeler used the words Obama and integrity in the same paragraph ....
Pardon me if the "enemy" drops his "Bible" and "gun" while he spews his "Slurpee."
Having a hard time getting riled up over one side or the other. Other than to say ALL pacs are bad - period. I just have Sinatra tunes going through my head. (Maybe all poitical ads are bad. I will even go that far)
bob: "if newt is the nominee"?? The Democrats can only hope. As they say , "from your mouth to god's ear"
Interesting, I wonder if NBC has any real leg to stand on for doing this? They aired the content, and it seems that the ads have adequatetly credited the source. How is what the ad creators did any different than anyone of us posting links to support an argument?
As for brokaw, to bad, it comes with the occupation.
So hypocritical...we all post links, reference material with facts to support arguments or make a point. Bottom line, NBC and Brokaw should never have aired these facts if they can't support them now. Brokaw, you chose to be in a profession that this is just part of. Stop whining....
For someone who believes in business he doesn't mind committing copyright infringement. christieg this was a news spot from 1997 which was true at the time but 2 years later the IRS cleared Newt of the charges. It was like reporting someone was arrested. Arrested doesn't mean convicted.
yea the worst they ever got on Newt was he over drafted as I remember then He got behind Santorum like a pitbull and 450 politicians were brought up on ethics charges and 77 resigned 22 were criminaly charged and 200 never got relected..
Brokaw in particular has every right to have his image withdrawn from the ads. If they want to use this material, the proper procedure in all cases is to request permission of NBC and Brokaw to do so. This stuff is all proprietary and they cannot use it without permission. NBC's broadcasts are not public domain material. It seems pretty cut and dried to me.
NBC and Brokaw don't want to be seen as making an endorsement, and some might assume they were taking sides. There is still a thing called copyright law.
They also likely don't want things twisted oct used out of context.
I am sure Romney will do the right thing here.
(FYI I am a democrat and certainly would never support Gingrich and unlikely Romney--though there is a slight chance there))
All they have to do is put up what ever they want in print, but they should never use film footage. For example the POTUS's campaign can put in print newt's and perry's quotes about mittens being a "vulture capitalist" but not film footage of them personally saying it.
Tom Brokaw is a fine man, but let's not pretend he isn't a liberal to the core.
Just on Friday, his reporting on NBC News amounted to a love letter to the liberal Democratic Governor of the bankrupt failed liberal state of California, Jerry Brown, who of course is hyping to raise more taxes to support his boondoggle high speed train to nowhere..
Dont expect NBC reporting positively on successful popular GOP Governors like Chris Christie or Bob McDonnell, they will get the snarky treatment from NBC, as usual.
yea speaking of reporting, how about an update on the financial status of Illinois and what the state is attempting to do if anything to fix the deficit.
Bob ... having lived in Monterrey, I would have liked a high speed train to anywhere. The ability to transport either goods or people quickly and efficiently is one of the bedrocks of a sound economy ... another is education.
Funny thing is, Bob---I feel Brokaw shows a conservative bias in his reporting. Must mean he is doing something right.
What is it that reporters like to say? If everybody is complaining, you must be doing someth right? Good call Steelr Fan.
Steeler fan, The only time I think Tom Brokaw showed a conservative side was "The Greatest Generation." Great book by the way. It made me really appreciate my parents and grandparents.
As to Christie, even Sarah Palin said he had made "rookie mistake" attacking Newt and "got his shorts in a wad" or something like that... He isn't favored by all conservatives. Plus he said Romney had won Iowa after he had threatened voters and then Romney didn't win Iowa. Then Christie was very definitive about S Carolina, and again, nothing. A true statesman doesn't just shoot his mouth off like that. Just saying.
I agree about the Greatest Generation---Tom Brokaw really did a great service to us all by highlighting those stories. I don't think of that as conservative or liberal but rather as patriotic. I really hope that we could all agree on something as basic as that.
Steeler fan, I will agree with you and your right it would be nice to agree on something that basic.
The Greatest Generation, what a great read!, Brokaw does have a libertarian streak in him, but half the libertarian position democrats should love, the other half they hate.
Brokaw reminds me of a child of Kennedy Democrats, he believes but keeps his own opinions. That I can respect.
The book itself kinda reminded me of Profiles in Courage at least in it's points.
Egilman, I was a child of Kennedy democrats. I even saw him give a speech at Roosevelt Field, N.Y.
lisa,
I loved that speech,
quote:
A great Man A Great President! We need more like him!
Kinda give the lie to making campaign promises or federal entitlements doesn't it!
Lisa, I made two quotes from that speech, but one didn't come through, here is the other...
I wish more Democrats would learn of his legacy.
Egilman, I couldn't agree more. It's one of those moments in childhood that you never forget. I was only five years old and I can still feel the breeze of the day. I remember the dress I wore and the little white gloves. I can still see his face and feel the audience. When I couldn't see my dad put me on his shoulders. Thank you so much for the quotes. He was my kind of Democrat. You brought tears to my eyes.
It might surprise a lot of people out there in vine land, but, if Jack could come back and run again, I would rejoin the Democrat Party in a heartbeat.
If only the Greatest Generation had instilled in their children the necessity to pay their debts instead of holding out their hands and taking every tax cut offered. In the process passing along enormous debt to their children and grandchildren.
The Greatest Generation although still partisan pulled together against a common enemy and was idolized by the world for thier sacrifice and dedication. We had it again for a brief moment after 911 but sadly the forces of greed and self enrichment pullled us from that into a war fought only to enrich the politically connected.France standing shoulder to shoulder with us in Afghanistan was villified because they would not kiss the ring of Dear Leader and any other country that dared disagree with them was demonized as godless heretics.
I wish my ancestors had picked their own cotton
Tom Brokaw reported that story fairly as far as the story went. For all those who think politics and news reporting started in 2000 news men used to report the news not opinion. Romney is the one not reporting that the final disposition of the case 2 years later cleared Newt. I'd like to see Tom Brokaw's report on the news of that but Romney isn't going to pirate that for his campaign. NBC could on the other hand run it as a response to the use of his report in the ad
I think the average person sees every reporter as being a bit to the right if the person feeling that is a Democrat, and a Bit to the Left if the person feeling that is a Republican.
BTW Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Rachel Maddow and the like are NOT reporters. They are commentators and interviewers.
Fox has very few reporters. they are almost all editorial. Almost all of the cable talking head shows are not reporting. Reporters don't express much in the way of opinion.
Buck Naked Sr. - a disgusting post but certainly not unexpected from you.
Brokaw: "I do no want my role as a journalist compromised for political gain by any campaign."
Hahahahahaha.
Sorry, it's too late Mr.Brokaw .
Since you work for NBC/Msnbc , you are "compromised."
Most Americans are not as stupid as you liberals think.
There 's nothing but Pro Obama ( hide the past and hide the truth ) coming out of there.
Enough said
Leona ... both sides can compete on stupidity on an even playing field. You are no brighter than most who post.
Most Americans are not as stupid as you liberals think.
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Well, we elected Junior twice and it looks like we'll be electing Obama twice. Are you sure you don't wanna rethink that sentence?
ideologyspoils,
I didn't say I was "brighter than most who post."
I said that liberals think everyone ( except themselves ) are stupid .
Liberals think they are the elite minds, they think Obama is brilliant..........I guess all that brilliance is how the unemployment rate is 8.5% and probably going UP and so is the national debt ( another $5 trillion) on Obama's watch.
Chucky,
If Obama gets elected again, I WILL "rethink that sentence."
Leona, my problem with you is that your language is derogatory, and hence you are part of the problem.
ideologyspoils,
I beg to differ. You wouldn't call a liberal's words "derogatory" and you know it.
Your REAL problem with me is that I am not a liberal, therefore I don't agree with YOU.
BTW, Why is it that liberals only like free speech when it's one of their own speaking???
Leona, please use your own words "Enough said". You contribute nothing to any discussion other than highly charged rhetoric.
Leona, I am only a liberal on social issues.
Tired old guy,
Why is it that liberals only like free speech when it's one of their own speaking???
ideologyspoils,
Well , now, being a liberal on social issues brings you to a serious fork in the road, doesn't it? lol
Will you vote for Obama who leans liberal on social issues?.... Or, will you vote Republican because you are claiming to be a fiscal conservative?
Let me guess..........it's Obama for you. Otherwise, you would have agreed with me this whole time.
You can't have it both ways. You can only vote for ONE President at a time.
Leona, it is one thing to like free speech, it is another to like what one is hearing ... freedom to choose what one listens to trumps everything, hence if you are pounced upon, welcome it with as much joy as you do when you pounce on those you disagree with. We are all busy whipping up a king size omelet and everyone gets egg on their face. Lean back and enjoy, and try to inject some humor in your posts. There is no reason for you to ramble through this blog unloved.
Leona, I am not an American. My major concern is with American Foreign Policy. The current administration has brought your country back to a respectful position in the world. Why would we aliens wish for a return to the Bolten Neocon big stick approach?
Same to you.
Why criticize me just because you are opposed to what I am saying?
Take your own advice...... "Lean back and enjoy, and try to inject some humor in your posts."
I wasn't even talking to you. You injected yourself into a conversation in order to criticize a person (me) because I don't agree with you..
You'll never admit that though.
AGAIN.....Liberals only like free speech when its one of their own speaking.
Get ready for some re-thinking.
I am a proponent of free speech Leona. I enjoy having open, honest discussions on both sides of an issue with anyone who expresses themselves and their viewpoints in a respecful, thoughtful manner. I would probably not agree with ideology on a lot of issues, but would feel comfortable debating him as he seems to have a level of understanding and class not seen in any of your negative, degrading posts.
Leona, there are no private conversations here, if you want to have one I suggest a different venue. But then, as they say in Quebecoise ... neveurminde ... salut pisse-dru!
oh yea, try telling that to betty, bev, feisty, on and on blah blah blah yada yada yada
ideologyspoils,
Every "foreigner" I know says why the HE#$ would the U.S. want to go the Socialist way of Greece, Italy ,Spain etc. ??
People come to America from all over the world because we are Capitalists and they can find their "American dream" here too if they work hard.
As far as foreign policy....the jury is OUT.
The Middle East is imploding, Iran is getting nuclear weopans, China owns us and it's getting worse, Socialist Europe is almost bankrupt, and the Mexican cartels are murdering their own citizens and flooding the U.S. with drugs.
You spoke of "big stick" approach.......if we are lucky, a "big stick" will be enough.
I noticed you said good bye. The kitchen get too hot for you ? haha
Tired Old Guy,
with all due respect because you call yourself "old", lol..........my posts are not "degrading" ( your word) to those who agree with me.
They are only "degrading" to you and others who DISagree with me.
That's how it goes. If you want everyone to agree with you, go live in a fascist country. Here, in the U.S. we are still free, that is,of course, if we can keep you liberals from taking over.
Like I always say.....Liberals only like free speech when it's one of their own speaking.
Tell me Leona, what countries have you traveled to lately? I have been to Ireland, Germany, Poland, Mexico, France, England and all are happy with the change in American politics.
So tell me gal, is my country Canada socialist? We have medicare for all, our banks are healthy. Maybe a happy marriage between capitalism and socialism?
You Canadians, you think you're sooooo superior with your socialized medicine and healthy economy, and sound leadership. And what's with that whole "polite" thing, huh? What's that all about?
ideology,
Trying to impress me?? lol
I've travelled extensively too. I won't give you a list because , frankly, since I lived in Europe for a year, my list would suffocate yours.
Canada is a neighbor , so I wont disparage Canada. lol
Suffice to say, I like the U.S. capitalist system. It works for people like myself who have gotten a higher education, paid back loans, worked hard, have a business and a decent life. I would like the same for everyone....... Problem is, some people don't think they should have to work for it.
So, here we are in a dilemma. We have the ones who work hard and don't whine because it isn't always easy and the ones who want their needs taken care of by the rest of us.
Leona, in your black and white, right or wrong, my way or the highway mentality you seem to not understand the difference between a country like the US that has a capitalist economic system that can be used in conjunction with social programs to make the nation great as opposed to a total Fascist system which is controlled by corporations or a European type of Socialist economy. By the way the life in the Socialist countries like Sweden or Germany seem to be doing okay. Sure Greece isn't doing all that well but Greece has not been well for decades.
Leona, the only people i see on this blog who whine are the 'conservatives'. As you claim to have lived in Europe, how is it that you don't understand that medicare for all is by far the less expensive route. Is it that you feel that you, because you have a few dollars more, deserve healthcare before let's say someone who has lost their job and medical coverage? It was not healthcare that was socialized in our country, it was the health insurance industry ... are you telling me that it is ethical to make a profit from someones physical demise? We in Canada said no.
Leona, in all systems there are winners and losers, tell me what you would do with your losers. You cannot turn them all into winners as there is not enough room at the top.
Chucky Stuart
Don't rile us up ... we already burnt down the White House once.
ideology & baldeagle,
a question......You people really don't get it or you pretend to NOT get it??
Capitalism is when the free markets work unimpeded by govt. regulation and heavy taxation. You win some and you lose some.
Socialism is when the GOVT's heavy hand steps in ( supposedly to "help" people) but as soon as they get involved, they have control over you. You are no longer in control of your destiny.
A simple example: the govt. bails out a car company and then turns around and says "you must build "green" cars whether it is profitable or not.
Another example . The Unions are bailed out by the Democrats in govt. Then the Union leaders tell all the Union worker lemmings that they must vote Democrat.
I'd rather have my "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
BTW, you say "Germany and Sweden are doing ok"...........The German people would disagree with you because right now, Germany has no choice but to BAIL OUT GREECE.
Leona, good posts!
Keep on giving it back to the bullying liberals in here. They all pretend to be "moderate' and all pretend to be "tolerant', but few of them show any real signs of either...
Bob,
thanks.
Three things.....1. liberals only like free speech when it's one of their own speaking.
2. I think their bullying is a tactic in hopes that we'll go away. That's why I stay. LOL
3. I feel if some of us don't tell the truth, they will get away with their LIES. (that's how Obama got elected in 08......everyone was silent. ( i.e.Bill Ayers, Rev.Wright, no college papers, no birth cert. for 2 years)
This year we are LOUD and clear.
Romney/Rubio for jobs jobs jobs.
@Bob -
Leona is the bully. She just argues with everyone pushing her Republican views, talks about Koolaid, Muslims, debt and how Obama is not creating jobs. You guys are wasting your breath(type) with her - I think she works for FoxNews as a 'plant'! I don't know why she doesn't post on the Fox site (mostly cause she can't bully there.)
Once again Leona addresses her own point and is on the same myway highway as Bob. Laissez-faire economics and only sharks need apply ... but then my dears, it is the sharks that have brought us to this pretty impasse. Or tell me how unions invented NCDSs ... tell me why industry plays a poor second cousin to financial institutions ... tell me why most wealth is now created by paper transactions insuring sovereign debt ... tell me how the shrinking unions will bring down this new world they did not create.
Leona... honey...
How many times do I have to tell you, I don't want you to go any where.
You & your
nonsensespoon fed right wing talking points remind us daily, why the once Grand Old Party is in it's death throes!Aw Feisty, you swatted Leonaly and she was just starting to flirt with Bobly
We can only hope neither one of them are capable of procreating! ☺
The last thing we need are more 'birthers'...
suzq & ideology,
to answer: I don't post on Fox, truthfully, because there are actually more liberals posting there and the liberals are much nastier on Fox because they have a vendetta against Fox.
Hey, I don't like Msnbc writers because they are slanted to the Left, and not balanced as journalists, but I don't name call or use profanity towards others.
Feisty , Name calling only wins in middle school , not in adulthood. Except I would like to comment on "birthers" since you mentioned it.....the Clinton's were the first BIRTHERS, so don't blame Republicans. LOL
As far as Unions go, if they cant compete in a global market, where is their future? It would be nice to bring back the old days but it isn't going to happen. The govt. has to keep propping them up at the expense of the tax payers because they will go bust. That's why Europe is in a terrible straits.
Leona, I suspect that you were an only child and did not even have a Chatty Cathy to converse with. When you learn how to respond to what is written get back to me. Bye now et bonne chance cherie.
You really should seek some professional help lady!
I would suggest you review your comment history & drop the holier than thou routine!
There is a plethora of examples of your name calling!
I really am starting to feel sorry for you!
Your desire to come to a public forum with your cry for help would be better served seeing a good Doctor to help with your illness!
ideology,
First of all, I am NOT a child so your scolding and rude comment "learn how to respond" means nothing to me.
Second, I explained that Unions have no future in a global market. READ what I already wrote.
BTW, not that it's your business but I have siblings. You must have been an only child........You're the "chatty nasty " . lol
feisty,
you're so full of yourself it's hilarious. Dembats is my response to Rethugs. Repugs etc. It bears no one in particular out. ( except Pelosi and Reid , of course, lol, they need to go ) . You, on the other hand consistently call me and others "loon" and many other names. (carry on, it means nothing to me). You can demean all you want, but the truth cant be demeaned. It will be heard wjether you liberal bullys like it or not.
Why do you have a problem with me asking why certain issues that are negative about Obama never show up here ? Such as when the "green" companies go bust like one did this week? That's not name calling. That's the truth and voters deserve all the facts not just the kool aid facts.
Except you weren't responding to anyone (other then possibly the voices in your head).
Like I said, seek some professional help before it's too late!
PS: Denial is NOT a river in Egypt!
feisty,
you never answer real questions. You are simply here to attack people who disagree with you. Wonder why ?
Again........Why do you have a problem with me asking why certain issues that are negative about Obama never show up here ? Such as when the "green" companies go bust like one did this week? That's not name calling. That's the truth and voters deserve all the facts not just the kool aid facts.
BTW, DEMnial is worse than denial. lol
Listen lady!
I have NO problem with people disagreeing...
What I DO have a problem with is someone like you who comes here and spreads bull@!$%# knowingly!
When presented EVIDENCE of what you are doing you stick your fingers in your ears & clamp your eyes shut while chanting; LALALALALALA!
You take great pleasure in propagating LIES & YOU KNOW IT!
Like, I said, get yourself some help you so desperately need!
feisty,
One person's bull#$%^ (your word) is another person's truth. You never answer real questions. Why ?
Come on you can do this if you try , lol.....AGAIN I ASK........Why do you have a problem with me asking why certain issues that are negative about Obama never show up here ? Such as when the "green" companies go bust like one did this week? That's not name calling. That's the truth and voters deserve all the facts not just the kool aid facts.
BTW, DEMnial is worse than denial. lol
For starters, this thread has NOTHING to do with you question, which is the same question you have been asking for the 100th time!
I would suggest if you want an answer, seed it on Newsvine and DISCUSS it there!
PS: Your twist & spin hasn't gone unoticed.
Yeah, if you ignore poor Leona, she goes away. No point talking to her, she is too busy talking to herself.
feisty: "PS: Your twist & spin hasn't gone unoticed."
Unnoticed by who ?? Is that a threat? Should I get a lawyer ?
I'll keep this threat from you so I have proof of any unforseen trouble just simply because I am exercising my free speech.
You are NOT the only people allowed to speak. We are all Americans. That is , unless you liberals take over. You act like a bunch of fascists. You only like free speech when it is one of your own speaking.
newsday,
please ignore me.
I may not go away but you are welcome to ignore me.
I wonder why you haven't already since no one is asking you to talk to me.
feisty,
You and your cohorts went mute? LOL
Your liberal (fascist) threats do no good to shut me up and I wonder what those who are still in favor of free speech in this country think of you.
Msnbc has some nice policy put in place to shut people up and to threaten people . (NOT)
We all STILL have our rights to free speech in this country .
People take issue with you because you are being belligerent and looking for confrontation.
greg in New York,
First of all, you are an Msnbc voice box too. Admit it.
I am not looking for confrontation just because I disagree with someone's politics. I have rights too. I don't ever ask for people to shut up. That's what people like "feisty" do when someone has a good and truthful argument that she and others can't demean because it's NOT all nonsense and lies.
That's OK, we know where they are coming from. Today was all the proof I need to know that any voices who are not in sink with the "Party line" here at Msnbc are attacked and threatened. I got it.
This is not news to "we the people" who still believe in free speech.
We got a good dose of what MSNBC is all about today if we didn't already know ( most people do know).
Psalm 76:5-7 Promotion cometh neither from the east nor from the west, nor from the south. But God is the judge.: he putteth down one; and setteth up another.
Man proposes, God disposes.
It is all in the Lord's hands. He ultimately controls all who are in authority. The worse things get, the nearer we are to His soon return.
Pretty sure Leona is 12 years old.
I'm sorry, your life must be hard. You probably don't have many friends, so you get on the internet. But instead of looking for people for enlightening conversation, you would instead cast aspersions on people and expect no response. In your initial post you were making belligerent comments about Tom Brokaw and the President. It has nothing to do with the source of the media and everything to do with your attitude.
Why are you bringing up free speech? None of us work for the government. Then again maybe you are paranoid and think the government is out to get you and they are all around.
Since you don't seem to know it:
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people are. The education system in this country is a complete failure.
Is Jan Brewer posting on here?
hey greg,
you call what I said "belligerent comments" because I called someone a liberal when that's what they are?
who's ignorant? not me.
when people like you call others 'ignorant' because they disagree with your "party line"......... we know what that is.
you wish everyone was ignorant enough to just accept what you and your cohorts are dishing out here.
you can call me all the names you want............we still have free speech in the U.S despite your tactics.
what you're doing is a threat to freedom of speech.
we got it.
BTW, it amazes me that liberal and progressives do not want to be labeled as liberals and progressives. According to you, it's a "belligerent" thing to say.
BIRTHERS: Children this is not the first time in US political history where a candidate has been questioned on his citizenship qualifications. Since your schoolteachers have taught you nothing. In 1964 and 1968 republican candidates both white were challenged on this issue by the democrats. One of them was Mitt Romney's father. Life did not start in 2000 nor did american politics.
LEONA
OK I admit it, I am more intelligent than you. That includes both my inductive and deductive reasoning ability. Beyond my capability to reason I likely have a much more extensive education than you, I never stop learning. I had even read both the World Book and Encyclopedia Britannica cover to cover by the time I entered High School I read every book I could ever get my hands on (I mean how many people do you know who have read 'The 3M Story') In an average Summer Growing up I read more than a whole book every other day...mostly Biography and History with a solid dose of Architecture, Science and Philosophy. I began to read the WSJ in High School, I created imaginary Stock Portfolios and traded them when I was in High School...reading Forbes, Fortune and the aforementioned WSJ.
I won national essay contests on History and Economic subjects, I also won scholastic awards, Scholarships, Art Awards, Science Fairs and yes even Swimming and Sailing. I rarely made anything but an A in any class (Except handwriting due to an accident when I was 3 that damaged my hand)
I was the first person in my state to score a perfect score on the ASVAB, Scored in the top 1/2 of 1% on the SAT, PSAT, IQ and NEDT.
None of that ever got me laid. But getting laid did not require intelligence anyway. I am sure you are indicative of that.
But yes I am smarter than you.
Sorry.
You will survive.
(Oh yea And I co-founded the College Republicans at my University was on the Reagan Youth Staff, Invited to the Inauguration and one of the Balls...but I saw the light later after watching Reagan ignore the plague of AIDs, and then seeing the hate projected by the Republicans on minority groups and the lower economic level of our country...So I, a die hard Republican raised to embrace racism...changed. Yes I was smarter than you, because I learned to think for myself)
Frankly True,
You're kidding right ??
LOL
Even if everything you said is true, which I would bet money against, you have an ego problem that would cloud the reasoning of a genius.
Guess what, no one cares what you said or what your "scores" were or were not.........especially after your first sentence. Since you know nothing about me, your theories hold NO credibility.
I saw your list of "perfect scores" you say you got on this test and that test, but in the real world of sound thinking and of mature individuals, you just scored a ZERO.
LOL
I have often found in life if you have to tell everyone how smart you are you generally aren't that smart.
You guys... don't waste your time replying to LEONA... It's a losing battle trying to get past her IGNORANCE. I'm sure you can tell that by now.
OMG! Ron Paul gets two pivotal Maine endorsements Saturday! Share this EVERYWHERE! http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-denver/ron-paul-to-receive-two-pivotal-endorsements-at-maine-events
#1 #RonPaul Iowa vote fraud article in the world! Get this article out to the far reaches of the universe! http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-in-denver/iowa-vote-fraud-official
So the crazy old man is liked by a couple more people. Most folks are too smart to fall for his pie-in-the-sky unworkable ideas. Dream on, my friend. Here in America you can support whoever you want.
guess you won't be sharing the piece in the Washington Post with Ron Paul staffers admitting Paul vetted those racist newsletters he doesn't want to talk about? Nah. Guess not.
AP,
Produce the Links there bud, Just about everything on the Post is maintained in an archive, so, PRODUCE THE LINKS!!!!
Otherwise, you are just another LWNJ!
I would like to see liberals challenge someone on anything without calling it racism. I would also like people to understand that what is true in the big cities is not necessarily true when your house is surrounded by corn fields. You call English as the official language racism thinking only of areas where the only languages are English/Spanish without understanding that where I grew up 14 languages were spoken in a 2 mile radius. A Texas legislator once asked me about that: " I told him english only I didn't care about, I would settle for english also." Because at that time in my county I had to have the man in line with me translate to english what the state employee was saying because they said it only in spanish.
So a lobster and a Clam endorsed Paul?
I don't do personal attacks
Ron Paul is Bat Sh-t Crazy and a bigot to boot.
He calls gay people "queers' (Not in a newsletter, but out of his own lips)
But I am not personally attacking the loon
Get over it, Ron Paul will never be President, VP or just about anything else.
This is his last hurrah..thats why I think he will run Third Party...nothing left to lose...and splitting the Reps vote will be the greatest service he can ever do for this country.
Run Paul Run
LOL
I agree, Bob, Brokaw is a fine man. I wish I could say the same for any of the conservative broadcasters. Are you trying to tell us O'Reilly isn't biased?
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert, White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, 4/29/2006
O'Reilly is a Capitalist. He works hard and makes money and "pays his fair share" (especially here in N.Y.).
Why should O'Reilly get on the yellow DEBT road and follow "The Liberals of Oz", like Obama??
Some of us care about the future of this country and don't want to become Greece.
Why dont you liberals move to Greece now? You can get there while the riots in the streets are still going on !
We could always remain the United States, per the Constitution. Greek government and economics are not ours. Neither is turning the president into a Newt. Don't threaten the U.S. with your witchcraft or nightmares. See your doctor.
Affinity,
Some of us care about the future of this country and don't want to become Greece.
So, "Don't threaten the U.S. with your witchcraft or nightmares. See your doctor."
There's help out there for "kool aid syndrome." ...but it will take time. lol
VidTruth,
Unfortunately nobody wants to hear. I've been telling them about the lousy Iowa Caucus for weeks. Keep going brother, I'm with ya...
Dr Paul is the only REAL candidate Americans want. He is the candidate we NEED!
Egilman,
The hubby and I spoke about Dr. Paul this morning. The problem is he has the right message in the wrong time. Everybody has become so "what's in it for me" and partisan, they, unfortuately don't listen.
isolationism and extremism are never the right message at any time. Your guy is the epitomy of what's in it for me."
Anybody else notice that "Greece" is the new "Russia" (As in big threat as to where we are "heading") Jeez this stuff is getting crazier than I would have EVER imagined it could. Newt actually running for office??!! Do people really forget that fast? Mindboggling!
Capitalist: A wealthy person who uses money to invest in trade and industry for profit in accordance with the principles of capitalism.
Oh...is that what O'Reilly does for a living? I thought he was a blowhard a--hole 'news' anchor on Fox TV.
I stand corrected then.
By the way, Leona...is your last name "Helmsley"?
are kaybee toys imported or are they made in the USA?
They are proudly made in the U.S.A. from local materials. No lead paint. Guaranteed safe.
Red, white and blue all the way, sir!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
kaybee,
Who do you think creates jobs?...... Socialists?....... Communists?
The answer, since you don't seem to know, is Capitalists......they create jobs.....and Jobs create tax dollars to fuel all the entitlements you liberals love. (Romney helped create Kaybee toys.)
BTW, my name isn't Helmsley BUT keep calling me that if you wish because I'm hoping it will bring me luck the next time I play lotto. LOL
Kay bee toys, I understand your name now. Kay bee toys filed for bankruptcy was purchased and taken private in 2000 by the leveraged buyout firm of Bain Capital. Point taken.
hey lisa,
You must understand that "buyout firms" come in when companies are doing poorly. Sometimes they can be turned around to become profitable and sometimes they fail altogether.
On the other hand , when companies are failing and the GOVT. comes in to "prop them up" , the tax payer loses to the tune of billions ( i.e. Solyndra and and many more).
Please tell us how many jobs the 'capitalist' Bill O'Reilly has created.
And who are you calling a liberal? I'm a progressive.
No relation to me.
I wouldn't want her kind of luck. But whatever floats your boat.
You forgot to mention GM.
Nothing to do with me, lisa.
kaybeetoys, I wasn't saying it had anything to do with you. I just meant I got your point.
kbtoys was bought by toysrus, is this the same kaybee is referencing?
kaybee: "And who are you calling a liberal? I'm a progressive."
Does it matter? The point is , you seem to despise "rich" people like O'Reilly.
The fact that OReilly's a capitalist bothers you. Is that because you're a progressive then? lol
BTW, the only reason GE got bailed out is because of the Unions. It was a Union bail out. They were going broke because Unions make companies uncompetitive in a global market. When will GE need another bail out????????????????
Buck Naked Sr. Yes it's the same KayBeetoys but by the time Toy's R Us got it there wasn't much left.
Buyout firms also create the collapse sometimes Leona. Ask anybody who worked for Montgomery Ward about GE capital. While the board of directors of Montgomery Ward was arranging refinancing the company GE Capital put out the word the company was bankrupt so they could sell the Montgomery Wards credit cards to Wal-Mart and the financing fell through. They created the bankruptcy for their own gain.
Actually Kaybee
O Reilly likes his latex sex toys.
Not that there is anything wrong with that, it s just when you harass women at your workplace about it.
I just want to know, did O Reilly prefer the vibrating ones, the
lightup ones or the big black ones with the wire reenforcing?Just a question
The media is liberal because facts are liberal and truth is liberal. Ignorance and spin are conservative. After all, which do you believe, what you see or what Limbaugh tells you? Glen Beck's comment on OWS was to say, "These people will drag you out of your house, and they will kill you!" The main-stream press did not report all the murders taking place - liberals!
Affinity : "truth is liberal"
...........why because you say so??? lol
Truth is TRUTH. It just is and it has no name other than the truth.
Thanks but NO thanks for the "kool aid " . Too bad the lemmings don't get it.
Leona, what part of the facts and truth don't you get?
"I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about us, I will stop telling the truth about them. " ~Adlai Stevenson
cynthia,
the problem with what you are saying is............you imply everything that comes out of your mouth is truth and everything that I say are lies.
I beg to differ. Some of us see it the other way around. Maybe you need another objective opinion.
cynthia truth can be spun many ways these days. Truth isn't truth if you don't tell the whole story and leave out the parts that don't support your case. Which is unfortunatly the way we get our "news" these days
Leona please provide a lie reported by a major news source.
Provide proof it was a lie
Give sources and links
Major News Source defined as one of the network news shows or a major-market daily newspaper.
Not opinion cable shows.
First of all, where did I say a major news source just told a lie??
I do claim that the liberal media "spins" the truth or hides it. That can involve embellishments to issues to make them sound better than they are. That can involve deleted facts to leave one with only a partial story.
I heard on "Morning Joe" today 2 people say 2 opposite things about Obama.
One person's opinion was that Obama helped improve the overall economy. Joe Scarborough then said "No one believes that."
So, like I said before, one man's truth is another man's "spin" .
Romney is the second coming of Richard Nixon. Lies and dirty tricks have become an art form for Republicans and Romney is the right man for the job. He even has all the money to finish off his opponents. When he crawls out of the swamp, voters will step on his head. He has no dignity but a silk suit.
Affinity:" (Romney) has no dignity but a silk suit."
Oh really??
Is that why Romney's been married to the same woman for 42 years?
Is that why he gives 15% to charity and Obama only gives 1% ? (and Biden gives -1% lol)
Democrats only like to spend OTHER PEOPLE's money.
Happy marriage? We don't really know, do we.
10% to the Mormon Temple.
kaybee,
In today's world, people don't stay married for 42 years unless they are happy.
Romney gives 10% to the Mormon church. Yes, so what?
The Mormon church helps poor people all over the world, just like the Catholic church does.
That's why I give to my Catholic church.
Many people stay together "for the sake of the children"-neither one wanted them. ;-)
Or the gravy train... ;o)
feisty & cynthia,
It seems as if you both know a lot about children who no one wanted????? lol
...because that comment is not something others would think of.
Just asking.
Leona, lighten up already. It's an old joke, something you resemble around here. ;-)
cynthia,
I should lighten up?
i was laughing....guess you didn't notice.
Why pull a Nightly News report already aired on NBC? If it was news then, it's still relevant now. Gingrich has to account for every error or misstep in his past or present. Unless NBC lied or manipulated the news, let it air!
I agree. If it was news and it is true and it was made public by Brokaw then let it stay in the ad. If it was said by Brokaw and it was false then we have a legal system for that.
There has been increased interest in intelectual property and the prevention of piracy. While the focus has been primary on China and India but it exists in the US as well. Taking images, or sound bites without prior permission from the person or entity that owns it is the same as stealing anything else. For the Romney campaign or any other, for that matter, to use TV images or sound bites without permission can be considered stealing. They may have gotten away with it before but they may not this time around.
Well , since we know the Obama campaign will be spending their 1 billion in the same way, I suppose "all is fair in love and war. "
This year........the "war" hasn't even started.
Axelrod, ACORN ( under another name of course) and the Union thugs will be throwing their weight around.
Reagan was President of his Union.
Reagan was a THUG.
Yeah he was a thug, and in '84 he arm twisted and leg broke his way to almost doing the politically impossible, WINNING ALL 50 STATES! Yep that's right, he wasn't quite thuggish enough, there's 3500 or so Minnesota arms and legs he missed.
Nixon, the other Thug, almost did the same thing in '72, but lost Massachusetts by 220,000 untwisted arms and legs.
Why is it that no Democrat has ever come close to winning all 50 states.
And the two republicans that have are what the democrats like to cite as the worst presidents in our history? I wonder why that is when the silent majority in this country SPEAKS with one voice, it is usually for a REPUBLICAN PROGRESSIVE!
Egilman if being popular makes you a good person then Michael Jackson is a friend to all children. Brittany Spears is a singer who's talents will be remembered for a hundred years and Crocs are the greatest fashion statement ever.
TIme for you to watch Amadeus....you would have been Salieri fan
Is NBC releasing the letter?
Tom Browkaw has stated :
"I am extremely uncomfortable with the extended use of my personal image in this political ad," he said. "I do no want my role as a journalist compromised for political gain by any campaign."
You have my support.
Burbank, California
let's see ....liberal media......Burbank........makes sense.
LEONA
You ar the epitome of a crackpot
Frankly,
You're calling someone a "crackpot".....
Aren't you the same "crackpot" (your word) who just said......"O Reilly likes his latex sex toys"....."I just want to know, did O Reilly prefer the vibrating ones, the
lightup ones or the big black ones with the wire reenforcing?"LOL, Wow..... the kool aid is strong .
Just as I wrote my comment above, I realized that I was proudly wearing my Romney baseball cap.
I can understand Brokaw's objection. Most ads using news anchors include several news sources - NOT just ONE source and ONE news anchor. This ad could give the perception that Brokaw is affiliated with Romney.
But this is just more of Romney's ad team's blinded hate - to use a Liberal news source against Gingrich.
This ad will hurt Romney if he doesn't remove it as requested- because Brokaw is well respected by the public, in general.
GO NEWT GO!!!! As long as you idiots split you ticket between Paul Newt and Romney you are cost the Koch brothers millions. They will have to lay off another 15,000 to make up for it. By the time they get to the convention with all their infighting they will be to broke to mount a campaign against Obama.
As far as the ads with Brokaws voice. I have never seen his as bias, but he has a private right to pick his candidate using him in a campaign ad suggest him promoting a republican. That has to be the joke of the year.
Leona (scarecrow) get a brain. If you lived in Europe, you should know their health care and life spans are better than the US. Maybe when Obama is reelected you will get the F&*# out.
hey Steve,
Since you like Europe's health care system so much , you can get the F#$# out ( your words).
I am happy with our system right here.
I can stay. lol
Sounds like you have to go elsewhere in order to find satisfaction.
Scarecrow, get a brain (your words)..
BTW, Steve.....
I hear that Obama has asked for NO vitriol or profanity.
Since you're such a fan of the President, I am sure he is particularly disappointed in YOU.
LOL
Romney and RNC has gone Scorched Earth to knock Gingrich out in FLA. Will the conservative voters turn him on his ear? They must vote for Newt then wait for the votes to be counted. Romney must be stopped here. Or the RNC will have selected our nominee for us again:(
Better that the right wing get this out of the way now because you can be sure the left will blast a similar version across the air waves before Novemeber if Newt wins the nomination.
MSNBC has that louse of a guy named Ed (The Ed Show) pouncing on any Republican and all of MSNBC advertises support for Obama in their lean forward retoric ... NBC lost any credibility and Journalistic integrity when everyone saw Brian Williams nose planted squre in Obamas rear ... As for the tape ... its the headline NBC used ... does NBC stand by that report in the 90's? If they do then it should be used and Tommy Brokaw ... you retired a decade ago ... everyone knows its not an endorsement ... its just your work is being shown ... if you hate your past work so much tell us you skinback your Reporting integrity Skills ... otherwise its just a fact. (which it is) These alleged Journalists at NBC are babies. GROW UP
Romney and Rubio ??? LOL! Yeah righ, Leona...that's just what we need! Jobs where???...in the Swiss banks or the Cayman Islands where Romney keeps his cash? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Do you people remember the Bush administration? Do you think everything was just great when Obama took office? President Obama inherited a mess that will take years to turn around. The do nothing Congress spends way too much time setting up road blocks for President Obama rather than work toward solutions to help the American people.
Does anyone think these ads are going to change your minds? REALLY? Wow, if they do it does show how stupid some people are. Most people have already made up their minds, and with the comedy of circle jerks of IDIOTS on the bagger side running, well you have to be one of the low informed voters to vote for those clowns.
But as long as that continues, watch the price you pay for the POPCORN. Most people are eating more of it while the baggers keep their rethoric up. Gotta love it, right?
"Fair Use" ?
The complete, unedited, soundbit is slightly less than 30 seconds. Because Tom Brokaw states the entire matter in a nutshell, there probably was no use inserting other Ancors. Again, it appears to be unedited, so I don't see too much of a problem with it.
Marty 1210 (above) says:
"I can understand Brokaw's objection. Most ads using news anchors include several news sources - NOT just ONE source and ONE news anchor. This ad could give the perception that Brokaw is affiliated with Romney." But didn't Tom summarize the entire situation in the unedited, undistorted, soundbite? Isn't that less than 30 seconds of "Fair Use?"
If you use someone else's material, you must get their permission and maybe pay a fee. Romney and company think they are above the law already. Just imagine what it will be if he should be president. We will all regret it. Romney and the big money needs to be stopped NOW!
I'm sorry to disagree with Tom Brokaw because he truly is a brilliantly, intellectual person. I have always liked and respected him. Nevertheless, I just think the issue of "Fair Use" does come into play.
The Fair Use Doctrine is one of the most important limitations on the exclusive rights of the copyright holder. It allows that copyright can be infringed because strict application of the law impedes the production and dissemination of works to the public. The Fair Use Doctrine was added as Section 107 of The Copyright Act of 1976 and was based on a history of judicial decisions that recognized that unauthorized infringements of copyright were "fair uses." ALA.COM
"The Fair Use Doctrine is one of the most important limitations on the exclusive rights of the copyright holder. It allows that copyright can be infringed because strict application of the law impedes the production and dissemination of works to the public. The Fair Use Doctrine was added as Section 107 of The Copyright Act of 1976 and was based on a history of judicial decisions that recognized that unauthorized infringements of copyright were "fair uses."
Added for quotation mark.
Kind of highlights another problem with PACs. They knew they would get caught but did it anyway knowing that the commercial would be off the air anyway buy the time the complaints came in. There should be large FCC fines for copyright infringement by these PACs otherwise they will just keep doing it. The whole idea of PACs is so scummy that I doubt they attract people with the highest ethical standards so I don't think they will stop on their own.
We should put some new people in Congress. It's time for a change.