2012: ‘Live by debate die by debate.’

The Miami Herald: Thursday night’s debate was supposed to be the debate that would prove critical in Tuesday’s Republican primary. Yet, there was no clear winner or loser. Polls show the race is exceedingly close, but Romney might be surging amid a statewide ad blitz. Yet the debate lived up to its nickname: The River City Rumble. Ron Paul and Rick Santorum played the roles of foils, chiding the frontrunners for bickering and, at times, not answering questions. This was also the debate where Florida took center stage. The problems in the nation’s largest swing state are the problems of the nation writ large: Unemployment, home foreclosures, immigration. Cuba, Israel policy and space travel got some airtime, too.

GINGRICH: The Washington Post: Cheers filled the air as Newt Gingrich’s campaign bus eased out of the parking lot of the Holiday Inn Express. He had just made an astonishing vow: By the end of his second term as president, the U.S. flag would once again be planted on the moon. America, he said, would have a permanent lunar base. Gingrich’s speech Wednesday created big headlines Thursday on the Space Coast. People here have been eager to hear some launchin’ words. The question is whether this is science fiction.

“The fact that he originally chose not to go after Romney on the Swiss bank accounts issue was a moment of weakness for Gingrich,” CBN’s Brody writes. “You can’t rail on Romney on the trail and then come up lame on the debate stage. Furthermore, he made Romney look even better because it gave Romney a chance to essentially say, “Man up” and don’t run and hide.”

Newt Gingrich’s former Republican colleagues in the House are more than a little nervous about the prospects of sharing a ticket with him in November. They think he’d run weakly in the suburbs. And among women. And independents. And especially in the Northeast. To some of them, he’s a disaster in the making, a potentially combustible nominee who could, in a worst case scenario, cost the GOP its newly minted majority. The concern is serious enough, one freshman Republican told POLITICO, that on the bus ride back from the House GOP retreat in Baltimore last week, Gingrich’s electability was the prime subject of discussion among nearly a dozen members — many of them first-termers.

NPR headline on Gingrich’s debate: “Live By Debate, Die By Debate.”

Duke Cunningham likes Gingrich. Cunningham, a former member, who pleaded guilty to “conspiracy and tax evasion” in 2005 “in one of the biggest federal bribery scandals in recent memory," the Voice of San Diego writes, “Cunningham tells Gingrich in an electronic message he says he sent to the candidate last month that his fellow prisoners, and their families, support Gingrich."

ROMNEY: "Mitt Romney, forced to prove his resilience after a stinging loss in South Carolina, is showing why the so-called Republican establishment thinks he has the best discipline, organization and campaign smarts to challenge President Barack Obama this fall," AP writes. "The former Massachusetts governor turned in his best debate performance yet Thursday night, putting chief rival Newt Gingrich on the defensive from the opening minutes in Jacksonville, Fla., and never letting up for two hours. It was a striking change after two South Carolina debates in which Gingrich revived his own campaign with fiery populist and media-bashing zingers that made Romney appear pallid in comparison."

The Boston Globe: Though Mitt Romney made his reputation as a private equity investor, his tax returns show the presidential candidate has a large portion of his wealth in an even more aggressive corner of the investment world: hedge funds.  

As others noted, NPR writes: “One reason [for Romney’s improved performance] is that Mitt Romney looked at the debacle of those South Carolina debates and made a crucial adjustment. He brought on a new debate coach. And not just any debate coach, but Brett O'Donnell, who in recent years raised Jerry Falwell's Liberty University to the top ranks of college debate. Not just the top ranks among religious schools, but the top ranks, period. More recently, O'Donnell had advised Michele Bachmann. Say what you will of that candidacy, what life it had emanated largely from her early debate performances in the summer of 2011.”

A Detroit Free Press/WXYZ TV poll shows Romney up 5 in Michigan. The results: Romney 31, Gingrich 26, Paul 14, Santorum 10, Undecided/refused 19.

SANTORUM:  "Rick Santorum’s sporadic Florida campaign has cancelled his scheduled appearance in Jupiter on Friday. Santorum was going to hold a Tea Party rally in Abacoa. Santorum will instead spend Friday morning being interviewed by three Florida radio stations, including NewsRadio 610 in Miami at 7:50 a.m.," The Palm Beach Post reports. "Santorum is then leaving the state for a Friday night fundraiser in Pennsylvania. He will also prepare his tax returns before heading back for one final day of campaigning in Florida."

The Wall Street Journal on Foster Friess, the financial backer of Super PAC Red, White, and Blue Fund: “Mr. Friess, 71 years old, said he plans to fund television advertisements for Mr. Santorum in other states in February and March. That could help keep Mr. Santorum competitive against his better-funded rivals and is one reason the fight for the Republican nomination will likely run at least through Super Tuesday on March 6.”

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Apparently, Newt can only debate if the crowd clearly favors him. If that doesn't happen, that means that the opposition has packed the crowd with their own supporters, or the rules are bad, anything but his own inability to carry the day. I have long suspected that the fringe right wing is not too bright, but it seems that they are slowly waking up to Newtie and his unsuitability for office.

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Reply#1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:26 AM EST

Sorry, but this is Campaigning 101. It is your advance team's job to get your supporters into that room. Seems like Romney did a better job that Gingrich in that regard. That's not Romney's problem.

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#1.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:03 AM EST
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Thursday night’s debate was supposed to be the debate that would prove critical in Tuesday’s Republican primary. Yet, there was no clear winner or loser.

There was no clear winner or loser? Romney destroyed Gingrich. I am a democrat and don't go for the GOP ideas, but you have to admit Romney beat him at his talking point. He was resilient, threw Gingrich's plea for a truce back in his face. Newt got schooled.

Mitt made Newt look foolish about the possibility of a moon base, he beat him on the immigration issue as well with the GOP base applauding his stance. He beat him when Newt tried to get personal about taxes.

I hope Newt recovers to win Florida so this goes longer, he is definately the weaker one for the general election. Again, don't like Romney's ideas or policies buy he more than held his own against Newt. The only place he staggered was when Santorum hit him about the similarities to Romney care and the health care law. Mitt was using pretzel logic to conclude that his law was good, while the same scenario under Obama is the worst law passed.

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Reply#2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:31 AM EST

Which Idea's or Policies of Romney's don't you like?

    #2.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:27 AM EST

    jfk 2112 Here is a simple answer for a simple man. All of them!!!!!! Is that simple enough for you.

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    #2.2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:36 AM EST

    I can't dislike any of Romneys policies because I don't know what they are. They change depending on the audience.

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    #2.3 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:38 AM EST

    JFK - I am a democrat, although I don't always agree with all their ideas. There is much I don't agree with on Romney, basically every part of his policies are counter to what I belive in. I don't agree that we can continually cut taxes and cut spending at the same time. I don't think that it is ok to cut regulations and promote job losses via outsourcing.

    However, as you asked a legitimate question, I will try to give a thoughtful response to what I do like about each of the GOP runners.

    On the GOP side I agree with some of Ron Paul's foreign policy and civil liberty ideas, non intervention is the way to go. The fear mongering from the others is troubling.

    Even though I don't agree with Santorum I respect his convictions and lack of flip flopping on the things he believes in.

    Newt, when not bombastic actually presents a few good ideas every once in a while, but his approach is like throwing everything against a wall to see what sticks (gives him a momentary bounce).

    Trying to think what I like about Romney....

    He is a generic Republican, not much to agree with him or to like. He wants to cut taxes and cut spending. However, one thing he said last night made sense. The discussion was about educating in English for foreign speakers. As a spanish speaking Latino, it makes sense. The best way for a child to learn is total immersion and speaking English is important for their future. Not to say that English needs to be proclaimed the national langauge, speaking multiple languages is important and beneficial, but kids should be taught in English.

      #2.4 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:09 AM EST
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      Duke Cunningham likes Gingrich. Cunningham, a former member, who pleaded guilty to “conspiracy and tax evasion” in 2005 “in one of the biggest federal bribery scandals in recent memory," the Voice of San Diego writes, “Cunningham tells Gingrich in an electronic message he says he sent to the candidate last month that his fellow prisoners, and their families, support Gingrich."

      Congratulations, Newt, on nailing the "Club Fed" vote!

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      Reply#3 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:00 AM EST

      "Club Fed" I LOVE it!

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      #3.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:24 AM EST

      That is an exception.....polls show at least 70% of convicted felons vote Democrat...

      Takes a crook to know a crooked party.

        #3.2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM EST

        your sources, Bob?

          #3.3 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:52 AM EST

          [your sources, Bob?]

          ...bOb has no sources, unless you consider "convicted felons" a source.

          bOb does have a great avatar though...Nobody But Obama..

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          #3.4 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM EST

          So 30% of convicted felons vote Republican? I had no idea white-collar crime was so rampant.

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          #3.5 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM EST

          Sources??? Bob don't need no stinkin' sources. Bob is a republican, and we all know they're honest god-fearin' going to heaven folks. Well, as long as they're not into that Santorum man-on-dog thingy.

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          #3.6 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:29 PM EST

          None of them have an economic stimulus plan. So they will all be the same. Some better some worse. some with more hair a prettier suit. Why don't they come in wearing a white T-Shirt and blue jeans (save the money) and GET TO WORK!

            #3.7 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:14 PM EST
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            I liked the way Ron Paul called Newt out on his balanced budget claims. The old man has some spunk.

              Reply#4 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:01 AM EST

              Its something how these candidates can look into the camera and say one thing while trying to make you think something else... Example. Romney, filthy rich, made $57,000.00 yesterday and he swears he's just like the average American... Please, give me a break... I'm still waiting for the break down on just how much he made from Bain and how he made it...

              Funny how McCain dropped him and picked Palin after the McCain team got 23 years of Romney tax returns... Romney is a crook with a license to be one...

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              Reply#5 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM EST

              Why do you hate a successful person who earned his money? Envy is a sad emotion...you must have a bad self image, go see a shrink.

                #5.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM EST

                I don't know, bob: Why do YOU and the "teabaggers" hate the folks that get up every day and work 8-5 to provide a living for their families? Why do YOU and the "teabaggers" engage in a war against those people, try to remove any job protections that they have, and undercut their ability to make that living? And when you have done all that, and they are without jobs, why do YOU and the "teabaggers" call them parasites because they need supportive services not to starve?

                Really, sort of the anti-Christian way to approach life, wouldn't you say? Expecting those without to be sucked dry by those who have it all?

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                #5.2 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:23 PM EST
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                Moon Beam newt can not beat Obama. Way too much dirt.

                  Reply#6 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM EST

                  on the moon they call it regolith...

                    #6.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:29 AM EST
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                    "Don't make me pull this car over". Even Santorum was getting tired of hearing the squabbling. Never underestimate the Republican's ability to shoot themselves in the foot.

                      Reply#7 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:06 PM EST

                      None of these clowns strike me a good public speakers .Not one of them is able to hold my attention for more then a few minutes .And in that few minutes" window "you need to make your point None of them has done this .All i can tell you about any of these clowns is they are racist religious cult members who hate Obama. Not once has any of them made a point in the first few minutes about anything else. This is why they are not winning anyone .The old school GOP must be having a cow.

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                      Reply#8 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:25 PM EST

                      Gingrich won the last debate hands down. He will also win the GOP nomination for President and defeat Obama hands down. Jan Brewer will make sure of that. Love you, sweet Jan. You are the best governor in the land. The battle for States Rights goes on, thanks to you. Read about it in the US Constitution, folks.

                        Reply#9 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:43 PM EST

                        gordon hang out at the newt kool-aid stand to long?

                          #9.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM EST
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                          Gingrich won the debate. Romney was wiped out. Mr. G will win Florida, the whole country, and beat der Feuhrer in November. thanks, gov. Jan, for "tuning in" to show the whole country was a woefull child Obama is.

                            Reply#10 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:49 PM EST

                            gordon I never thought one could overdose on the newt kool-aid. Well I guess I was wrong. Absurdity rules at your house.

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                            #10.1 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:44 PM EST
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                            That was not a debate America! It was another traveling GOP/RNC Clown Show between Two Ego Maniacs. What about specifics concerning jobs, corporate tax policy, tax codes, trade policy, Foreign Policy, and fair financial regulations to protect the American Consumer. The American People deserve better than these GOP Clowns.

                              Reply#11 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:20 PM EST
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