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By NBC's Michael Isikoff
Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino mogul bankrolling Newt Gingrich’s super PAC isn’t trying to “buy” a presidency, his top political consultant tells NBC News. He’s just following in the footsteps of another powerful business tycoon, Joseph Kennedy, father of President John F. Kennedy.
Billionaire Sheldon Adelson and his wife have given GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich's super-PAC $10 million, the biggest cash infusion in the race for the White House. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports on the couple behind the contribution.
“I don’t think it’s buying a presidency any more than it was when Joe Kennedy helped his son,” Sig Rogich, a veteran Republican operative who serves as Adelson’s government affairs consultant, said in an interview about the massive donations that the casino mogul has made to Gingrich’s super PAC.
Adelson, 78, who has a personal fortune estimated at $21 billion, “plays to win” and “puts his money where his mouth is,” Rogich added.
In the last three weeks, Adelson and his Israeli-born wife Miriam have pumped $10 million into the Winning Our Future Super PAC. Those donations provided a critical cash infusion that helped revive Gingrich’s candidacy, bankrolling attack ads against Mitt Romney in South Carolina and now Florida. They’ve also made the Adelsons the largest known donors so far in a presidential race awash with money under new rules allowing unlimited donations to so-called super PACs.
But the contributions have also raised new questions about Adelson’s outside role in influencing the campaign. Those questions could intensify as a result of potentially provocative comments he has made about Israel uncovered by NBC News.
Scott Audette / Reuters
Republican presidential candidate former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich makes a point during the Republican presidential candidates debate in Jacksonville, Florida January 26, 2012.
Adelson owns a newspaper in Israel, 'Israel HaYom,' that backs conservative Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and adamantly opposes any peace settlement with the Palestinians.
But while Adelson and Gingrich have bonded on the issue of a hawkish Mideast policy, especially over the threat of a nuclear Iran, some of the casino mogul’s comments could prove embarrassing.
In a talk to an Israeli group in July, 2010, Adelson said he wished he had served in the Israeli Army rather than the U.S. military—and that he hoped his young son would come back to Israel and “be a sniper for the IDF,” a reference to the Israel Defense Forces. (YouTube video of speech)
“I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF ... our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back-- his hobby is shooting -- and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event.
“All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk.
Asked about those comments, Rogich said: “No one could possibly ever think that he is anything but a loyal American. He’s shown that time and time again.”
Rogich cited major donations that Adelson has made to medical research and other philanthropic causes that were far bigger than his political contributions, he said.
As for Israel, Rogich said: “I think that the fact that he is a Zionist and believes deeply in the preservation of Israel is so commendable.”
Newt Gingrich, who stirred controversy recently by calling the Palestinians "an invented people," appears on the cover of Sheldon Adelson's newspaper, Israel HaYom, blasting the Obama administration for its policies on Iran. "The Obama administration is denying reality," reads the headline in Hebrew. "The refusal to confront evil could cause a second Holocaust."
Gingrich, who stirred controversy recently by calling the Palestinians “an invented people,” appeared on the cover of Adelson’s Israeli newspaper blasting the Obama administration for its policies on Iran.
“The Obama administration is denying reality,” reads the headline in Hebrew. “The refusal to confront evil could cause a second Holocaust.”
When Gingrich was questioned about the money from Adelson this week, he immediately cited the casino mogul’s backing of Israel as a major reason he had received his support.
“Sheldon Adelson is very deeply concerned about the survival of Israel and believes that the Iranians represent a mortal threat to Israel and the United States,” Gingrich said in an interview while on the campaign trail in Florida. “And he is deeply motivated by the question of having a commander-in-chief strong enough and willing to make sure the Iranians do not get nuclear weapons.”
Asked if he had promised the casino mogul anything in exchange for the money to the super PAC, Gingrich replied: “I promised him that I would seek to defend the United States and the United States allies.”
Adelson’s interests extend beyond Israel. His personal fortune comes from a casino empire that stretches from the Vegas strip to the gambling havens of Singapore and Macau. But his business interests have also provoked legal troubles.
Adelson’s company, the Las Vegas Sands, disclosed last year that it was being investigated by the U.S. Justice Department and Securities and Exchange Commission over allegations by a former top company executive that Adelson directed him to put a local government official on its payroll in Macau — a potential violation of a U.S. anti-bribery law. The firm has denied the allegations, saying they come from a lawsuit filed by a disgruntled former employee.
Adelson also earned a reputation in Las Vegas as a fierce foe of labor unions after he bought the legendary Sands Hotel, home base of Frank Sinatra’s Rat Pack, and then blew it up in 1996.
About 1,500 casino workers lost their jobs. Adelson built a spectacular new hotel in its place, the Venetian, but locked out the state’s powerful Culinary Workers Union, which resulted in street protests and lawsuits.
Union official D. Taylor (sic) said that Adelson’s security officials at the Las Vegas Sands Hotel tried to have the protestors outside his hotel arrested, but Las Vegas police refused.
“He claimed that he owned the sidewalks,” Taylor said. Georgia Democratic “congressman John Lewis led us on the sidewalks to say that nobody’s going to own the people on the sidewalks,” he added. “Sheldon then appealed the decision of the police not to arrest us all the way to the Supreme Court.”
Taylor said Adelson lost that battle — the courts upheld a finding of anti-labor practices against his company — but now the casino mogul thinks he can purchase a presidency.
“I think it’s very scary that any one candidate would be so beholden to one persona, a billionaire, who obviously has a very specific agenda that he wants to achieve,” said Taylor.
But Rogich, Adelson’s consultant, said that agenda consists of nothing more than trying to elect a good friend who he believes “would be a great president.”
“And that’s what this process is all about — that’s why we call it America,” he said. “You have the right to spend your money how you’d like to spend it.”
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The Newtster won't like that, gays have been serving openly, bravely and honorably in the Israeli army for many years now. Come to think of it, shouldn't it have fallen apart and Israeli's enemies crushed and invaded it by now???
Teapublicans, these two clowns are NOT going anywhere; yours is a lost cause!
You see, pandering with lobbysts and big banks while paying 15% tax on a million dollar salaries aint gonna cut it folks.
Since the New Deal, Republicans (now Teapublicans) have been on the wrong side of every issue of concern to ordinary Americans; Social Security, the wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan; equal rights, civil liberties, church- state separation, consumer issues, public education, reproductive freedom, national health care, labor issues, gun policy, campaign-finance reform, the environment and tax fairness.
No political party could remain so consistently wrong by accident.
The only rational conclusion is that, despite their cynical "family values" propaganda, the Tepublican Party is a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the American people in favor of plutocratic and corporate interests, and absolutist religious groups...
Paying 15% tax on billion dollar salaries (capital gains my ass) while the rest of us paying 34% tax on less than 40K a year is plain wrong, I dont care how you look at it.
This is not class warfare or whatever BS you wanna call it; it is plain arrogance and making a mockery out of hard working Americans.....Obama is right
What's next?? Iran starts a super pac and backs Mitt or Santorum? We need to get rid of this pay to play bs
Yep, here we go again, "Isreal-US". The tail wags the dog. And "Americans" seem to be okay with this.
He is not trying to buy the presidency?????
ROTFLMFAO
“You have the right spend your money how you’d like to spend it."
Thankfully, there's plenty to spend here. Unlike the masses who would like to exercise that right and buy food for their tables.
LMAO, get over it!!!
Let's see a "Fair and Balanced" Omsnbc report on soros's ideology and money going to huessian?????
Adelson is 2 faced and forgets where he made his money or should you say stole it from addicted gamblers-
HEY DOC, You are NEVER taxed 15% on Million $ salaries. Even Warren "The Liar" Buffet was taxed OVER 30% on salary earned. He then RISKED his money in the stock market. He is then taxed AGAIN 15% for profits from money risked in the stock market. So he is TAXED TWICE on the SAME salary earned. Buffet's POOR secretary earned over $200,000 last year. She too has stocks that she is only taxed at a 15% rate. Enough of the BS.
freelunch, your name says it all, what community are you organizing?????
Adelson isn't trying to buy the presidency??
Riiight... is he going to wear it to a party and then return it?
Nice for him that he has $10 million to throw away like it was toilet paper.
Where'd he steal it from?
Well, once again we see the uniquely GOP phenomenon, if they say one thing they are actually doing the exact opposite. NOT TRYING TO BUY A PRESIDENT? Who are those guys kidding? That's exactly what Mr. Adelson is trying to do. He's trying to buy a rabidly anti-Iran, pro-Israel President and heaven help us if he succeeds.
Shame on you, US Supreme Court. Shame on you for the Citizens United and related rulings. In one stroke of the pen you have sown the seeds of destruction of this great country.
If it were not for Adelson's millions Newt would be "road-kill" by now.
This issue must be addressed after the election.
So, is Adelson going to fund Newt's moon mission too? Will the moon turn out to be an Israeli colony? Mazaltov!
Gimme a break.
Obama/Biden 2012
Time4Truth, re-read Doc's meesage---he didn't say salaries he said "capital gains my ass", meaning it's tax fraud based on the fact that the primary benefiiciaries of capital gains are majority of Congress and their major campaign donors, like Adelson. There should be a capital gains cap like there is for home sales: $250K for single persons and $500K for married couples, anything over that is considered income.
What do you mean taxed twice? Everybody's investments are taxed annually, whether it's a savings account, CD or bond investment, so I have no idea what your trying to allude to here?
Our tax code and Congress needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL where both should follow only what the US Constitution allows, period. Prior to the Civil War the States barred all corporate political donations, for the same reasons they did with churches, because back then the colonist remembered thesame types of tax abuses of King George II and British India Tea Company which is what brought abut the Declaration of Independence and resulting revolution! Like they say..those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. BIG Sigh.
I can't wait until President Obama is sent back to Chicago. I don't care if it takes a billionaire to the job. Just get it done.
1/20/2013 - the end of an error
And which candidate is it that will be removing him? LOL I mean, you have such a large field of viable candidates.
“I don’t think it’s buying a presidency any more than it was when Joe Kennedy helped his son,” Sig Rogich, said.
It was widely felt that Joe Kennedy was doing just that, buying a presidency for his son.
well just give me the list of who is fillthy rich and not backing the gop pac. I'll bet its shorter.
Skip (#1.14), I agree, Doc (Tombstone by the way, great movie) was talking about the scam, courtesy of Congress, whereby hedge fund managers can treat their compensation for MANAGING other peoples money as capital gains at 15% the same as real investors who use their own money. And the same money is NOT taxed twice. If your salary is taxed, then what you have left over is disposable income and if you choose to invest it, only the income on that money is taxed, not the original capital invested, it's basic tax law. Time 4Truth is confused, but is correct in saying enough of the BS, it's just that he/she should be looking in the mirror when saying so. I would have to say that "Time 4Truth" is definitely a misnomer.
Now, if Newt is elected POTUS, will this automatically increase the handout we give to Israel each year, so they can build more settlements and then spit in our faces?
Oh, and Skip, as per the Moon thing, wouldn't it be great if the next time Mitt tears into Newt, Newt yells back: "To the Moon Alice, to the Moon!". Ah yes, we have a ravaged economy and a disappearing Middle Class, and Newt's is focused on the Moon, Frank Zappa would be proud!
Enough of this dual-citizenship crap. Either @!$%# or get off the pot. Adelson is an agent for a foreign power. And he and his wife seem to be having a grand old time doing it.
I guess when you have billions, you have alot to waste ? Newt is a lowlife who wants to beam his tea retards to the moon to play Russian or Chinese roulette, "HOPE" - What a waste of money.
I love the job Obama has done.... with the crap that this country was in in 2008....we are finally digging our way out. Now if we could get those that wanted to go to war in 2003 to start paying for it, we'd be better off......but I do not hate those on the right....heck i even have great friends on the right.... to bad a lot of you on the right and left get too caught up with hate speech.
What a crap shoot!
First place folks you have to realize the right wing bots have to twist your words so their posts seem plausable. Then they post crap like (it was genarally thought 0 as a fact to further twist it. They are not smart . When this country wakes up and taxes all income as just that a dumps that capital gains BS then we will have fair taxation. 43 million in two years and you pay 13.9% taxes no wonder we are in debt up the gingy
Newt proposal a colony on the moon for his supporters, "Moon Spin"
Of course he's trying to buy the presidency. That's how we form a government now. It's bought and paid for. Congress, the presidency even our judicial system has been, like never before, completely corrupted by huge amounts of cash.
Prior to Citizens United we had laws and regulations that, though not always effective, at least pushed back at a fascist takeover of our government. Now the corrupted Supreme Court has thrown open the door to government for sale. The seeds of our destruction were sown in that court decision. Sown when we permitted the likes of Scalia and Thomas to infest our Supreme Court.
The only good thing here is that if Gingrich should get nominated (he wont) then the presidential election will be a foregone conclusion and the utter destruction of the republican party will be well on its way.
Here we have a billionaire who only wants to be a, "Good Zionist," bankrolling a two time adulterer who claims to have been, "redeemed," and is now a devout Catholic.
Adelson's fortune comes from gambling... an, addictive, (self) destructive activity that is considered a sin in both Judaism and Christianity. You couldn't make this stuff up!
Newt has annointed himself, "The Definer of Civilization," and, "Teacher of the Rules of Civilization." He constantly informs us his intellect is superior to most other humans and only a small percentage of the population can begin to appreciate his depth of understanding.
He and his supporters are salivating at the prospect of him,"dismantling,' President OBama in a debate and yet he was ripped apart by Romney last night... If he can't beat a manequin how is he gonna beat a real live Professor of Constitutional Law?
He certainly is a capable multi-tasker. While he was Speaker he simultaneously preached Christian Morality on the House Floor while impeaching Clinton for lying about sexual misconduct while he (Newt) was diddling his own (2nd!) mistress! Impressive!
The man is a megalomaniac and a colossal hypocrite who should never be elected to public office again.
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
It's gonna be AWESOME when China funds a super pac, and makes sure that THEIR CANDIDATE WINS HERE!
gotta love the moronic right, never thinking two steps ahead.
are you guys sure it's great that this guy can buy a president, for the sole purposes of FOCUSING ON ISREAL (not america)...?
stupid is as stupid does...
LoL JH
who knew conservatives were such trolls
lol
obama isnt going anywhere, the tea party has no chance in winning, anyone i see that isnt ignortant n god fearing ( or at least tryingto put god into thier agenda) is ron pual
zzzz stop keepin ur hopes up, ur gonn abe dissapointed back then just like when mccain lost
then imma be ROFLMFAO!
OH this old man isnt winning either...i can smell the income hes getting
N over sea supporters from countries we got into by bush n tryin to run out of by obama
n now we need another person using bush's idea of terrorism to be elected, how CUUUTTEEEE
The Riegn Of Terrorism Is Nigh!!! trololol
Gee, Warren Buffett, George Soros! Why's it okay for them to buy Obama the presidency but you are outraged that someone would contribute so much to Gingrich's campaign? Liberal hypocrisy again. Also, to the dork who claimed that the Repubs have been on the "wrong" side of every issue since the new deal...well, let's see....8 yrs of Eisenhower (Repub), 8 yrs of Nixon/Ford (Repubs), 8 yrs of Reagan (Repub), 4 yrs of Bush 1 (Repub), 8 yrs of Bush 2 (Repub)....that's 36 yrs of Repubs...approx 1/2 of the time since of FDR!!!!! But they are always on the "unpopular" side!!!!
Ah yes, the Israel firster who thinks American interests come second to events in the Middle East which do not affect our national security.
The first poster is on to something though, its kind of ironic how fanatical neocons are so concerned about such a liberal country as Israel.
Or what Goldman Sachs is to Obama. It was after all his top campaign contributer.
I think Newt's colony on the Moon is all about "MOONSHINE"
The last presidency was bought by that great America hater George Soros, so whats wrong with the other team buying a presidency..????
Maybe this was some of the dirt that Pelosi was smirking about?
And Art, if the 2008 campaign had been funded by citizen-only donations of $50 or less, Obama still would've won by a landslide.
Get ALL big money out of politics!
Warren/Feingold 2016
DunkinH
One other thing, the Koch Brothers are throwing behind their support behind faux "Tea Partiers" who are really neocons trying to hijack the movement from the real Tea Party which was created in part by Ron Paul.
First of all, KevinMC, I loved your post!
Gas Bag Gingrich defines his antagonist, Romney, as a big money enabler yet Gas Bag grants an audience with one of the biggest money moguls in the country! Adelson is number 8 on Forbes 400 list of those Billionaires wallowing in their largest. Adelson's reach is obtained solely through his money connections with those in power on many continents and many governments. Ten million dollars is a drop in the bucket for a man like Adelson and anyone with half a brain can see that he is buying votes. You all can thank your top heavy Supreme Court for giving this guy a position of strength over the majority of American Citizens/Voters.
Why haven't we all banded together to stop the sale of our democracy?
Adelson will not be the first wealthy megalomaniac to waste his money on a losing candidate. It's obvious that Gingrich is pandering to the extreme and unfortunately for him, Santorum will be splitting the evangelicals who support Israeli expansion and are waiting for Armegedden.
Romney is very openly pro Israel also so I think it really doesn't matter much in the end analysis.
Romney has found a new voice now and Newt the schoolyard bully will be eating his own lunch all by himself.
Nicely said KevinMc...
Voted up!
This should be easy enough for a Liberal to understand...
Obama Economic Record
Inauguaration Day Today Change
Unemployed Americans: 12 Million to 13.1 Million - 1.1 Million worse
Unemployment Rate: 7.8% to 8.5% .7 % increase
Federal Debt: 10.6 Trillion to 15.1 Trillion and growing
Price of Gas: $ 1.85 Gal to $ 3.39 Gal = $1.54 more per Gallon
Misery Index: 7.8 to 11.9
Debt Per Person: $ 34,731 to $ 67,000 almost doubled
College Tuition: $ 6,591 to $ 8,244 = 25% Increase
Worker Health
Insurance Costs: $ 3,354 to $ 4,129 = 23 % Increase
Food Stamp Recipients: 32 Million to 46 Million = 45% Increase
Americans In Poverty: 39.8 Million to 46.2 Million = 6.4 Million Increase
Home Values: $165,700 to $147,800 =13% DECREASE
US Global
Competitiveness: 1st to 5th = Drop 4 Places
DunkinH Where is the GoldMan Sacks super pac?
Hey Doc: Buffet pays 15% on CAPITAL GAINS and not on his ORDINARY INCOME. Get your schitt straight
Israel is try to buy a President so they can destroy the Mideast (another Teabagger War) So we have a Mormon ans a surrogate Jew, the Teabaggers will vote for anybody (but a black man)
As usual, Obama snaps his fingers and his NBC lapdogs strap on their kneepads.
The Leftist loons have no problem with Obama and his laundry list of convicted criminal supporters (Soros, Rezko, Ayers, etc) or all of his political appointees that somehow never get prosecuted for cheating on their taxes. But, if a rich guy supports a Republican, he is somehow a shady individual.
Obama just announced a "new" DOJ taskforce to "investigate" financial "crime". I guess all of his media wh0res have forgotten that he already did this back in 2009.
This one will be as toothless as the last. There's no way that he wants to see bank mortgage cases being tried in open court. There would be a steady stream of Democrats being perp walked out of their offices. He just wants to keep such cases out of the hands of the SEC, the FBI, etc, so that he can control them through his partner-in-crime, Holder.
How about a Congressional investigation about why Obama's big campaign fundraisers can visit the White House and, almost immediately, there is a Presidential dictate that makes Soros or Buffet or Kaiser or one of the unions a truckload of money?
The Left has been screaming for criminal investigations of the banks. Once Obama and his henchmen are kicked out of the White House and the Senate (and those buildings are fumigated and completely decontaminated) there will be plenty of trials - but the Progressives won't like the results.
I think that it is disgusting that anyone of this country can agree that it is o.k. for a foreign country supporter to attempt to buy the Pot US, a billionaire who made most of his money in this country,is a citizen of this country, yet admits publicly that his allegiance is to another country. This slime-bag Newt should be loosing out at all of the preliminary races and the States where He doesn't come in last should be ashamed of their Rep/tp's. and themselves.
In regards to the comments made by DocHolliday-2979123. There is NOTHING wrong with his comments - no naughty words - nothing offensive at all. WHY THEN WERE HIS COMMENTS collapsed? If you look - 75 people have indicated they agree. Shame on whoever is doing this. There is freedom of speech. That does not mean only freedom of speech if you agree........ Stop collapsing comments! That is offensive!!!!!!
mtmike You make it sound like everything was fine when the President took office. Was it? Please answer that.
The Right wing extremists are so obsessed with getting Obama out of the White House they will accept a candidate who is backed by a rich Casino owner who admittedly would rather be an Israeli. How twisted can they get in their hatred? Adelson is supporting Gingrich solely because he promises if he is elected to take the U. S. into a war with Iran, to appease Israel.
Gingrich has proven himself to be a liar, a philanderer, a cheat, and a hypocrite yet he appeals to the Republican base more than an honest straightforward intelligent individual with no scandal on his record. This is America?
Truly, this country is engaged in a struggle between the decent, honest, hardworking, tax paying citizens and a coalition of ignorant, gullible, and misinformed rabble being led and lied to by greedy, selfish, dishonest, self righteous moguls.
The Supreme Court has opened the way for super rich greedy individuals with no interest in America except to line their pockets, to convince gullible fools to raise up a thoroughly disgusting and unprincipled bag of wind to be a candidate for President. This is America?
As one commentator said recently, "Surely we are better than this." I'm not sure we are. When an elected official feels free to publicly point her finger in face of the President in a hostile and lecturing manner, it seems we sink to new lows everyday. Surely this is not America.
time 4truth - Let's go over this FAUX News lie that Romney has "already been taxed" on his $42 million one more time, shall we?
Yes, Warren Buffett and every other working stiff in America pays the "regular" tax rate on his salary (plus Medicare and Social Security taxes).
But, you see, the GOP has decreed that people like Romney are "special". They don't have to take their earnings as salary, like us peons do. They can take it as "carried interest". They don't have to pay ANY taxes on "carried interest" at the time they "earn" it - they only have to pay capital gains taxes on it when they pull it out of the company vault for living expenses.
It would be like you or me getting our paycheck direct-deposited to our bank TAX FREE and only having to pay 15% tax on it when we pull it out. Oh, and no stinkin' payroll taxes, either!
The only reason Warren Buffett pays the tax rate he does is because he takes his salary honestly - as wages. Romney pays 13.4% because he takes ALL his as "carried interest".
Does this make Newt the Manchurian Candidate?
Just more proof that money cannot buy you intelligence, wisdom, character, integrity, or love.
From the Washington Post:
Obama outpaces GOP rivals — and his own 2008 results — in small donations
Capital gains and "carried interest" rates of 15% are ridiculous. Time to level the playing field and tax all income, regardless of the source, at a progressive rate:
25% above $60K
30% between $61K-$140K
35% between $141K- $340K
40% between $341K-$1M
45% on all income over $1M
NO deductions, no off-shoring of funds, no blind trusts. Personally, I would be at 35%, but currently pay no where near that amount through our ridiculous tax code and the loopholes and deductions I am able to exercise.
We have serious problems- the deficit, underfunded education, crumbling infrastructural base and the imperative investments in alternate clean energy we need to make before peak oil destroys our economy. AND NONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WILL EVER BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE ALL OF OUR POLITICIANS ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE WEALTHY.
I am no Obama fan, and certainly not a fan of any of the Republican candidates. The only way all of us can win, whether tea-party, Independent, Democrat or Republican, is to get the money- the legalized bribery- out of our political system. It's the most important thing for all Americans.
I'm shocked at how many things we all agree on, but stay divided against our collective best interests over nonsensical social issues. DIVIDED WE FALL.
Once Newt finally walks away from this race all you will hear in the background is
"Oh, I'm being followed by a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow
Leapin? and hoppin' on a moonshadow, moonshadow, moonshadow."
Hey Jock, move to amend dot org .
Obama4Prez
The masses need jobs to put food on their tables and electing Obama in 2008 cost us plenty of jobs, that is unless you took a job on the staff of one his czars or "new" regulating agencies. Why on earth would we be dumb enough to repeat that mistake? Could be that remembering the holicost and he is old enough to remember, he is not happy with Obama ignoring or downright offending Israel for much of his time in office.
I still can't believe the people that defend Mitt paying less than 15% on his "capital gains". He made money closing plants putting people out of work while raiding their pension plans. He made money on foreclosed home putting people on the street. He made money bilking Medicare. He did basically the same work as an officer worker but because he makes money a different way than a person working in an office he gets to pay less percentage in taxes yet the talking points of the right tells how capital gains create jobs. Just how is the capital gains of Mitt creating jobs other than the employees at a Swish or Cayman bank?
GOP: "Yeah, we trashed the entire world economy in 8 years. But just put us back in - we can fix it!"
Shaking - what about this chart don't you understand?
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Obama has certainly reduced unemployment.
And it's clear that Bush caused it.
Here's the rise in unemployment in the months leading up to Obama taking office:
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2009/feb/wk2/art02.htm
Which is it again? Is the President a socialist or is he in bed with Goldman/Sachs? You can't be both and that's the hole in you RWNJs argument. When is Bush going to stopped being blame for this mess? When has the blame for the great depression stopped being blamed on Hoover? Just not going to happen and your denial of the facts fall into the same boat. Oh and the other conflict with reality you RWNJs have "government doesn't create jobs" but why hasn't Obama created any jobs? Very Orwellian of you folks (like Cheney's "we'll fight this war for peace if it takes forever"). You all talk out both sides of your neck so why don't you just rest your neck cause your tired, tried and trite policies don't work. One more thing Newt's Adelson's son now?
For all of you who are so frightened of George Soros that you're willing to sell your country to a casino mobster with foreign ties:
From OpenSecrets.org:
Individual donations to federal candidates, parties and political action committees (1989 to 2010)
Koch Brothers: $2.58 million
George Soros: $1.74 million
David Koch: $2,224,170
Charles G. Koch: $363,100
George Soros: $1,748,627
David Koch’s Favorite congressional members:
$17,100 – Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.)
$7,600 – Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.)
$7,200 – Mark Foley (R-Fla.)
$6,600 – James Inhofe (R-Okla.)
$5,000 – Sam Brownback (R-Kan.)
George Soros’ favorite congressional members:
$6,500 – Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.)
$6,200 – Jon Cranley (D-Ohio)
$6,000 – Ken Salazar (D-Colo.)
$6,000 – Dan Maffei (D-N.Y.)
$5,500 – Tom Perriello (D-Va.)
MtMike.......
Jobs were being lost at a rate of 700,000 a month when President Obama took office. That rate of loss stopped and now we are gaining jobs monthly. How is that a bad thing?
Rate if debt increase is the result of the needs for correction in the direction of the economy that was in place when President Obama took office.
The president of the United States does not set the price of gas. It is a commodity with the price driven by the market. Unless he nationalizes the oil companies there is little to nothing he can do regarding the price at the pump.
Misery index???? Really?
Personal decisions regarding how much personal debt they want to take on is, well, personal.
The president has about the same control over college tuition cost as he does the price of gas.
"A majority of health plans reimburse providers on a fee-for-service basis, according to this NY Times article on healthcare reimbursement.
Many experts and economists believe this is a primary cause of our ever-increasing health care costs and therefore cause increasing health insurance premiums." The PPACA will not be fully enacted until 2014.
From Factcheck.org
"Gingrich goes too far to say Obama has put more on the rolls than other presidents. We asked the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food and Nutrition service for month-by-month figures going back to January 2001. And they show that under President George W. Bush the number of recipients rose by nearly 14.7 million. Nothing before comes close to that.
And under Obama, the increase so far has been 14.2 million. To be exact, the program has so far grown by 444,574 fewer recipients during Obama's time in office than during Bush's.
It's possible that when the figures for January 2012 are available they will show that the gain under Obama has matched or exceeded the gain under Bush. But not if the short-term trend continues. The number getting food stamps declined by 43,528 in October."
Who do you want to take the help away from Mike?
The causes of the decrease in home prices is too complex to fully address in this forum. I would suggest reading "Griftopia" for a very good explanation.
Global competitiveness rankings
1: Switzerland (1)
2: Singapore (3)
3: Sweden (2)
4: Finland (7)
5: United States (4)
6: Germany (5)
7: Netherlands (8)
8: Denmark (9)
9: Japan (6)
10: United Kingdom (12)
I guess if Obama is the "food stamp President" the GOP wants to elect the "no food President".
MTMike...you may be able to fool most of the public with your so-called data, but there are actually some of us that are capable of critical thinking and understands that a Presiden entering office is ADOPTING the previous President's record and many sessions of Congress who passed bills a century (armed forces) or decades ago (farm bill) that are still being funded.
FYI --- CONGRESS, voted in by the citizenry with two competing interests and Agendas other than their legally defined duties (See US Constitiution), is the one who controls the PURSE (revenues and outlays) and fully responsible for all the DEBTS it incurs. Remeber, the Republicans authorized two military invasions of which this country sustained a huge amount a debt at the same time it determined the wealthy no longer needed to help shoulder these costs based on historical models that had kept this country relatively debt free.
Now if you want to break down specific costs of "Presidential pet legislation" please do so by listing them individually, but stop trying to scam the general public with data incured by numerous Presidents and sessions of Congress authorizing their funding.
I remember 30 or so years ago there there was a Constitution cartoon character that used to teach kids how their government operated...we could definitely use a sequel!
If he's sorry he wore the USA uniform in the military and he just wants to be a good 'zionist', why doesn't he move to Israel??
Kathy Kramer, not only do I agree with you that it is wrong and offensive to attempt to collapse a comment because of a disagreement of substance (as opposed to a reasoned objection having to do with a "rules" violation), but I also question why Newsvine's website software allows this to happen with such ease. No matter: I zero in on "collapsed" posts. Those are the FIRST ones I read, because I know they are the "good" ones (and I am usually right). So really, Kathy, collapsing a post for all the wrong reasons is wrong, yes, but at the end of the day, it is counterproductive. So...PLEASE! COLLAPSE THIS POST!!! I dare you.
SpryLynnx, MtMike is ignoring the fact that Bush and the Republicans took a balanced budget of 2000 and turned it into a $6 trillion additional deficit in 8 years. The largest increase in the federal deficit which created a burden for this administration just to pay the interest on it. And they created a myth they they are responsible.
Also his unemployment figures are misleading since the unemployment was in free fall and does not stop the day Bush left office just as a train does not stop immediately when the brakes are applied.
The economic recovery was also hindered by a filibuster blockade of every Democrat jobs bill by the Republicans in congress.
Do we really want to turn over a bad economy created by those same Republicans that caused it?
RealAmericansFirst,
Why don't you also list all of the other liberal organizations that Soros has funded over the years? Same for the Koch bros.
Find it humorous that the liberals here are all up in arms about this when your politicians do the exact same thing, but you aren't outraged about that.
The whole system is stupid that it allows this for either side.
Get rid of the money, lobbyists, corps, media, etc.
Put the politics back in the hands of the people.
Must be nice having your own personal President.
http://www.getmoneyout.com/
WOW A ton of libs out there trying to spin it any way they can. Heck even Bush knew it was Illeagal to mandate health insurance it is not a saftey issue like seatbelts this is something that a private company wants all people to purchase because they make money off it now the President wants to force everyone to purchase something they may never need. And then have the US Treasury enforce it like they dont have to much to do already!
This Idiot's in charge now all of them should be in jail for insider trading they get to know what companies are selling what they want to mandate that everyone has to purchase then they buy up that stock before they let the public know whats going to be mandated. I remember not to long ago Martha Stewart was in jail for that reason sure it was her company but does not matter if they have inside info that should be considered insider trading PERIOD. DONT CARE IF IT BUSH OBAMA OR WHOEVER IS ELECTED TO REPLACE OBAMA.
If you are a member of congress, senate or the President you should have to have a blind trust that has the power to invest as they see fit you dont get the priviledge to say I DONT want Solyndra as I know they are going broke, But lets give them 1/2 billion dollars because they helped buy my Presidency.
I do agree with getting all money out of politics NO lobbying(Bribing), Cut there pay to somethng that is voted on by the people not just them.
stop trying to confuse the reich-wing idiots with facts, they never comprehend facts anyways. standard reich-wing lunacy considers less to be more, war is peace, greed is good, etc.
I think we should increase congress's pay. My husband makes almost as much as they do. Give them $250K a year. That'll keep the back door deals down and make it a job they can focus on. But we have to have tax funded elections. Give them enough to tour the country in a bus and make the media give them free ad space. Have a three month election cycle - debates every weekend - and then we vote. None of this billion dollar, two year long, bull@!$%#. Think about how much our economy would be if all that wasted cash ended up in consumables.
So he is Newts, John Corzine. Except he didn't steal it the same way.
And now.....let's play a level field...........Obama's supporters:
This guy IS trying to buy a US President who will send even more US taxpayers' money to Israel, a First World nation who doesn't need our money. Since the Constitution allows for Congress to tax us, it will not change, but at least keep our money here in the US! My wife and I (she was raised Jewish, BTW, but considers herself to be of Hungarian decent) don't want a penny of our tax dollars going to places that do not need it, or who turn around and give the US the finger. Time we spent the $Billions we send overseas every year here in the US and improve the lives of US citizens, the infrastructure, schools, medicine, etc... No more free handouts until the US is taken care of 100%!
John Skaggs
If he's sorry he wore the USA uniform in the military and he just wants to be a good 'zionist', why doesn't he move to Israel??
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............Totally agree, I'll volunteer to drive him to the airport, and won't even ask for a tip. Come to think of it, I'm sorry he wore a USA uniform as well (which branch of the service was his buddy Newt in?), I thought we screened our recruits more closely than that, in fact, I'd like to slip some pork into his matzo balls as a going away present.
Just an observation, you know, Newt is no Jack Kennedy.
Thanks Larry. Clinton was only able to reduce some of debt by working WITH Republicans who were capable of compromising at that time....that hasn't happened again since the Republican oligarchy (2000 - 2006), and as you correctly stated, America incurred an enormous debt while at the same time they substantially reducing the revenue by giving very generous tax breaks to wealthy citizens and corporations.
Obama is not exaclty an innocent party as his healthcare pet bill added another layer of public debt. However, I'm not naive to the fact this was a major economic problem that too many of our citizens were, and still are, in complete denial about, and is another of the many high speed train wrecks the public ignores unti we're in CRISIS MODE throwing band-aids on a festering wound because the two sides are constantly fighting like the Hatfields and McCoys, while our country continues to deteriorate.
Neither party has the perfect solution, as Congressmembers nor Presidents are experts in all matters and don't know any more than you or I do about medicine, economics, etc. so they seek the assistance of others, who may/may not be experts or have personal/political biases. Until the public can get out of the bad habit of believing everything they're told by politicians, media, teachers, parents, etc. and start educating themselves on these complex matters by seeking experts in that particular field who can offer equitable or realistic solutions that would or could agree on if they discussed them in a mature and professional manner---our society will only continue to regress.
Ido,
"Obama claims to be against big business" Can you supply anything that supports this absolutely moronic statement? Anything at all?
Time4Truth - and anyone else who read his comment. Warren Buffet recently made a statement that even HE thought it was unfair and unbalanced that he should only have to pay 15% on his investment income. He agrees that there needs to be major tax reform in our country. Also he has previously stated that when he dies most of his fortune will be donated to various charities and good causes. He has also said he will leave money to his inheritors but specifically said that it will be a small percentage of his total worth. Granted, only time will tell but in the mean time just because Mr. Buffet is extremely wealthy don't forget he worked his way up to where he is from practically nothing over the course of his entire life. Most of his investment income has been derived from returns on large investments in smaller and start up companies that without his money would have gone bankrupt and costing people jobs. He's just so horrible, so horrible in fact he pays his secretary more money per year than most other people make in four years. He's just such a horrible guy. (That's sarcasm if your small minded pea brain is incapable of picking up on it.)
And Super PACs are the final nail in the coffin of American Freedoms and Equality. Supreme Court Justices, let me ask you this. A Corporation is nothing but a piece of paper filed with the government. I don't care if it has real PEOPLE working for it, that said Corporation is not a real person with the same rights as a living, breathing person. If a Corporation is a person because it has people working for it and makes money why not allow political donations from foreign nation's governments, they are people too right? Then Israel and Iran can donate as much money as they want to get us on their short leash.
Oh and also the republicans out there that claim to have family values and religion that are backing Newt, how do you sleep at night knowing that your savior has broken numerous commandments again and again? On top of that how can you actually think that someone who has previously declared BANKRUPTCY has the knowledge to fix our economy. I'd be happier if you just stopped hiding behind your false ideals and come clean: you simply can't handle an African American President. Oh yeah and I'm white, middle class, rural upbringing and Catholic in case you want to spout some nonsense that I'm biased. I'm not biased, I just have more than two brain cells working.
And we thought that Newt was the "sugar daddy" with a revolving Tiffany's account....
Roadhouse Blues you are right about the capital gains and managing accounts, but you left out one thing: when a fund manager manages an account he is using the investors money, should he make a million dollars on those investments it is considered capital gain, all the while he has not risked one penny of his personal funds only the investors. In my opinion this money should be considered earnings and taxed at the rate for earned income. The rhetorical answer to this question from tax experts and politicians is that capital gains have already been taxed at the source of investment, businesses and so on, therefore their reasoning is that to tax it again as earned income would be doubling the tax. This is all slight of hand since the fund manager is actually making money on an investors money, therefore his take should be taxed income!!!!!
Why doesn't anyone check into Obama's Arabic backers and what our country had to pay from our tax dollars of those from the Arab nations to see his inaugaration....NOW there is something to Google and research!
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Smitty-4183671
This guy is to newt as the koch brothers are to the tea bag party.
Or Soros is to Obama? Fair's fair, right?
Voters who want wars, torture, assassinations, "humanitarian" bombings in oil rich countries, indefinite detentions, drone attacks that kill the innocent, erosion of civil liberties, domestic war on the people (drug war), out-of-control debt and spending, graft and greed, crony capitalism, pandering to special interests, bailouts, more of the same, must NOT vote for Ron Paul.
Voters who want peace, a humane foreign policy, restoration of civil liberties, an end to the war on drugs, sound money, balanced budgets, honesty, integrity and transparency in government, and a President wholly committed to Constitutional government can vote for Ron Paul.
Sorry about the spam, computer malfunction I guess.
Newt Gingrich, Bought and Paid for?
Interesting, sounds like we have competing business interests fighting over the US presidency.
Goldman Sachs supporting the President and Mitt Romney on one side
And Adelson and the Israelis supporting Gingrich on another side.
So who in this election is going to support the American People?
Ron Paul
RON PAUL?!?!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA1!!!!!!!! No Dr_Noo.......No.
Not.
Ron Paul is a friend to the White Supremacists. Never mind his nutjob ideas about returning to the Gold standard, dissolving about 90% of the government (which IS, by the way, comprised of the American people).
If that man had his way, it would be catastrophic.
Following the Constitution would be catastrophic huh?
This guy's not a very shrewd investor if he's backing (or buying) newtie!
President Obama supports the American people.
If the Tea drinkers would sit down and shut up and let him do what he was elected to do, he'd have been able to demonstrate that a lot more forcefully.
Still, the economy is getting better even with the dead weight of the regressives working tirelessly to weigh it down.
Watch for the vitriol against the president to grow worse, as the Republicans grow more desperate.
Go ahead and bring it. Just facts please...no B.S.
Easy come, easy go.
Starderup, Paul is the closest to our Founding Fathers than any of these corporate hacks! The gold standard was far better than what we have now, because it forced the banksters to BACK UP their holdings with actual collateral. The only collateral they have now is the FDIC and taxpayers because there's no way in heck the privately owned FED will accept any responsibilty for loaning banks OUR MONEY, which the FED only pays the cost of our US Treasury to print it, and not belonging to any branch of government, it has no regulatory authority to ensure the banks are operating ethically or legally.
Five presidents were assassinated (Jackson survived) every time they attempted to usurp the banksters powers. The FED is a private corporation owned by no. of unknown no. shareholders (think JP Morgan), it has never been audited by Congress, and was President Wilson's GIFT to the banksters, guys like Adelson, who were instrumental in obtaining his Presidency.
This guy would have Newt by the b@lls and would be Adelson's boy toy for four years if he successfully bought his Presidency, no differently than JP Morgan and his fellow banksters did with President Wilson who signed the Federal Reserve Act with a few Congressmembers all tied to the banks, who held a "special session" during Christmas break when majority of Congress wasn't even there to vote on it.
The People are there own worst enemys.
"Never mind his nutjob ideas about returning to the Gold standard"
You do realize that when the world was on the Gold Standard during the 19th century, it was an era of international peace and it was largely the big bankers who advocated for its abolition.
Right he is not a shrewd investor but somehow he has accumulated over $20 billion. I am sure you know a lot of dumb people who have made that much money. I wish I was that dumb. It amuses me greatly as to what you people think is disasterous--if you just take a deep breath calm yourselves down and then take a look at what is happening in Greece, Italy, Spain and France you will see what Obama has in store for the United States. He is trying as hard as he can to duplicate the conditions that have caused the financial collapse of most of Europe. But of course you don't think rampant unemployment and riots in the streets are a disaster because after all the brilliant people are all convinced that European socialism is so much better than American capitalism. Capitalism has ups and downs, there is no way to avoid that. Socialism eliminates the ups and produces a constant stable downturn that results in the citizens of a country becoming dependent/slaves to their government. There is no middle class in a socialist country. The USSR didn't have a middle class, only universal poverty among the people who were not part of the bloated government. China didn't have a middle class until it allowed the 1% to come in and invest and create jobs and wealth and theemergence of a middle class. Take a look around the world, actually learn how to think. Believe what you see with your eyes, not what you are told by the democrats/socialists. Socialist policy like universal health care, cap and trade, and an expanded central government and regulations leads only to one thing, a powerful central government and a weak and dependent citizenry. Obama is promising you what he knows he can't deliver--look where these exact same promises have taken the people in Greece and Italy. That is where we are headed if you people continue to believe the lie that the government can take care of you by taking money from the 1% and giving it to you. The 1% doesnt have enough money to make you middle class citizens. The middle class is only possible because the 1% create the companies and the job opporutunites that make it possible. It may not be FAIR, but it is reality. If the government destroys the 1% the middle class will disapear. It isn't speculation it is reality (USSR, pre-capitalist China, Cuba, and soon the EU). Stop believing the LIE.
Mrhuh
You do realize that when the world was on the Gold Standard during the 19th century, it was an era of international peace and it was largely the big bankers who advocated for its abolition.
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......You do realize that the 19th century was the 1800s? Era of international peace? Ever hear of the War of 1812. Ever hear of the Napoleanic Wars, Waterloo, the Franco-Prussian War, the Boer War in Africa, etc. I guess you are not a student of history.
Boyd, no one is trying to destroy the 1%, they are trying to stop the 1% from destroying the Middle Class, which is happening. Your China example is wonderful, for if what happened here a couple of years ago thanks to Wall Street, the big banks, etc., had happened in China, alot of Chinese 1% heads would have rolled by now, but here these scam artists got bailouts and bonuses, the about 13 million Middle Class lost their jobs. I think I prefer the Chinese method right about now.
There's a much more serious issue here. If Adelson can influence the president of the US to do his bidding for Israel, which foreign business owners of American companies will try to compete with Adelson using big money for influence for their countries?
This is the direct result of Roberts, Alito and the conservatives on the Supreme Court who banned McCain Ferguson campaign reform act and the Republicans who pitched a bitch when President Obama tried to effect campaign reforms in 2009.
Now, our US elections are open season for any Big Money man from a foreign country to spend his moolah to buy the president and God help us all...the entire government senator and congressman, one by one.
I cannot imagine a more disastrous situation than this to our voting process. No individual American on Main Street can match Adelson's Big Money influence. And he's the tip of the iceberg. But the real problem is that he actually believes his big money "entitles" him to special considerations for his country, his REAL country: Israel. THAT'S where the BIG problem lies. Anyone who denies this is a fool.
@Egilman
I think Mr. Sorus who is the 15th. most wealthy person in the world, and Mr. Gates who is 1st or 2nd. will adequately fund Mr. Obama. The rest are just bit players.
Anyone that thinks going back to the gold standard is a good thing is economically BRAIN DEAD. There isn't enough gold in the world to back even a fraction of the money in our economy. Going to a gold standard would raise the costs of everything manyfold while paying people nothing.
The reason we went off the gold standard is because gold could no longer support our country and this was many, many decades ago. People, get a clue for god sake. If we went on the gold standard we would turn into a country like Zimbabwe where the currency is totally worthless. This was in 2008 "10 million Zimbabwean dollar now valued below $4 on the black market". That's what would happen to the US dollar if we went back to the gold standard. We would tank.
MrHuh, you are so wrong about the 19th century.
"The 19th century (1801–1900) was a period in history marked by the collapse of the Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Holy Roman and Mughal empires. This paved the way for the growing influence of the British Empire, the German Empire, the United States and the Empire of Japan, spurring military conflicts."
There were wars all over the earth during that time. It was almost nonstop wars. So do a little reading on history and not the revisionist crap being shoveled by people that back Ron Paul.
Yes because printing trillions of dollars of fiat currency is really working out well for us. Dimwits like you are destroying the value of our currency and our economy will most certanly suffer for it. And cut the racism crap, you know its funny, I hear neocons regurgitating the same bullcrap. Two sides of the same coin is what you idiots are.
Ron Paul wants to get rid of the EPA. Do those of you who support him support this?
Think about it, idiot. The reason why is because the FED is printing money faster than monopoly money. A gold standard would put a check on the government and prevent that from happening. Oh but then that would put a hamper on your wealth distribution agenda. Now we see why the moonbats are so concerned about a fiscially responsible government.
Yes, the primary purpose of the EPA seems to be to get in the way of economic activty in this country, while addressing none of the pollution emitted by interantional corporations operating overseas. All it is doing is hurting us at home while the evil corporations you people hate so much continue to rake in billions without hiring Americans.
The "Founding Fathers" were a bunch of elite white men who owned Slaves. The message is clear, we must support our antiquated and out of touch constitution - where does the Constitution say churches should not pay taxs - abortion should be outlawed ??
DunkinH, you are so ignorant of what that means. Like I said if we went on the gold standard it affects everything including YOUR PAY CHECK. If we went on the gold standard YOUR PAYCHECK WOULD BE WORTHLESS. The gold standard means that every single payment ANY PRIVATE CITIZEN, company or government agency pays has to be backed by enough gold ON HAND.
There is not enough gold in the world let alone the US to cover EVERY SINGLE PAYCHECK given every month in the US. Hell the gold in Fort Knox wouldn't cover more than a few minutes of the paychecks of everyone in the US.
I am a student of History, the US was on the gold standard when the economy collapsed in 1929. The Gold Standard was eliminated in 1933 in order to print enough money to get us out of the depression.
There is NO way to eliminate ups and downs in an economy. The gold standard cant do it, government regulations cant do it (if they could then Europe would not be experiencing a financial collapse). Regulations eventually kill an economy they eliminate the potential for an economy to improve and create a constant bad economy--everyone is equal because everyone is poor--everyone except the government bureaucrats that is.
It would be nice if people would actually learn how to think and to deal with reality. Get the government out of everything possible, keep the government small--that will keep rich people from wanting to buy it. Let the government save some money and have a rainy day fund so that during the times when the economy does have a down turn, which is inevitable, they have some money to help with unemployment and job training while the economy fixes itself, which it always does by itself, and it does it faster by itself if it doesn't have the government trying to help it.
To all of you hounds baying down the trail of "George Soros, Goldman Sachs!"
Do you realize that one man - Sheldon Adelson - has given Newt a minimum of $10 MILLION dollars so far?
Goldman Sach's total contributions to ALL candidates was $1 million in the last election cycle. And most of that went to Republicans.
Try going to Opensecrets.org and look it up for yourself.
DunkinH--
By your logic the only solution is that everybody should pollute as much as they want/can. But Ron Paul does argue that land owners should be able to sue corporations regarding dumping (I'm not sure what other types of pollution someone could sue for—what about air, etc.?)--a right not enjoyed by every land owner in every other country. So Paul transfers some of the power to rich land owners, implicitly allowing that rich/lucky people be able to sue after the fact.
There would also be the fact that to eliminate the EPA would be going backwards. Why would we want to pollute our own water and air--in effect, poisoning ourselves and our ecosystem, as some other countries are doing? We have done that in the past, and continue to do so to a certain extent, but hopefully you don't agree with poisoning ourselves.
I do my very best to buy American, for many reasons. At the very least, I next try to buy from responsible countries. I haven't researched many options as to making it harder/not possible for other countries to poison themselves and create greenhouse gases, but I am interested in other solutions; banning the EPA only hurts ourselves while obviously doing nothing to stop pollution in other countries.
So far this election cycle, Goldman Sachs has given $369,700 to Mitt Romney and $50,124 to Barack Obama.
If you REALLY don't like Goldman Sachs, I guess you'll have to vote for Obama this time, eh?
Mrhuh
You are correct and several things come to mind with the doing away with the Gold Standard, FDR, Social Programs, the FED, and bigger government.
RAF, you're right. I always have to laugh when those that defend the big oil donations to the Republican as "Well they give to both parties". Yeah, they give a millions to Republicans and thousands to Democrats.
@ Boyd
Yeah we almost had the government on it's way out of debt when Clinton was in office with a Republican congress that wanted to stop him from doing anything but it was wasted when Bush stole the election and blew the ship out of the water with the approval of the very same congress that made Clinton balance the budget. What went wrong? It wasn't 9/11 because the tax cuts were before that.
Rule of Nines @2.21
Are you aware of where these two ideas come from?
They are #29 & 30 of the list of Communist goals in the USA compiled by the FBI in 1958!
They were also read into the Congressional record by unanimous consent in 1963...
www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals
You might want to check it out.... The book is still available through Amazon and I believe that it is available to read from online archives but you will have to do some searching to find it...
Have a nice day.
Where is that Tyler guy when you need him?
DunkinH says,
"Dimwits like you are destroying the value of our currency and our economy will most certanly suffer for it."
"Two sides of the same coin is what you idiots are."
"Think about it, idiot." (this one directed at an individual)
And yet here he is, still posting.
I once described a certain group as "mouthbreathers" and was suspended. A group, not an individual. It was only personal if a person identified with that description.
@vwterry, I was wondering the same thing. Tyler has very inconsistent standards.
Sandy I dont understand how you think that way, sure now that the FED has printed way more than they ever should of the gold standard idea is that we still use paper dollars to purchase stuff but there would only be so much paper money available because there is only so much gold available. you cant have we will use simple numbers make it simple for those who do not understand. 10 million dollars worth of gold means the fed can only print 10 million dollars worth of paper money that is backed by GOLD.
to Kryss re:
I am a Ron Paul supporter and I would hate to see the EPA dismantled. No candidate will ever be perfect for one individual, that's just not how it works. Does anyone who supports any candidate ever agree with everything they say? Ron Paul is important because he brings to the table things that no other candidate will ever talk about whether on the right or left. He has stated himself that he knows that less than 5% of his ideas would ever come to fruition if he were elected president. The problem with having ideas is that someone will always think they are crazy. This is why all the other candidates say nothing of substance other than "the other guy is bad". This is why there is never a successful politician running for higher office that has a shred of integrity or dares to speak the truth. They throw around these vague terms like "job creation" and "class warfare" that mean nothing. It seems the voters of this country want fluff and false promises rather than a honest discussion about how to improve things.
Any intelligent person knows the corporations run this country, not the people. Hence the theory that Ron Paul is "unelectable". If he were to be on the ballot it would be the first time in my life (10 or so presidential elections) I would not have to choose between corporate lackey A versus corporate lackey B. Unlikely I will ever get this chance again.
Noobster--
I’m glad you’re against dismantling the EPA. I agree with you that no candidate will ever be perfect, and also that someone not bought by corporations is ideal (one of the reasons I voted for Kucinich in the last democratic primary; that and he’s probably the politician closest to my ideals). That said, there must be things you REALLY like about this candidate, and/or you believe that his presence could “balance” Washington in some way I couldn’t foresee.
I’m assuming it’s not merely/mainly his “non-corporate”-ness that you’re interested in. I voted for Nader when he ran as president, but Nader’s views are very different from Paul’s. To me, Paul has a few interesting ideas within a larger, troublesome ideology that paints almost all government interference as bad.
I voted for (and will vote again for) Obama because I agree with him on the majority of his stances on issues I hold as most important, and also because he comes from the party I agree with over republicans a vast majority of the time. Regarding his corporate-ness, I feel he has to work within the system, even winning over corporate money, because that’s the system we’ve allowed as voters (that has been strengthened/largely created by corporations, I believe). On the other hand, Obama was successful in the end because of grassroots support. If Paul is able to get a lot of grassroots money, it may be in part because of his remarkably uncompromising ideology, which I find troubling in its possibility (probability?) to shift people too far to the side of some kind of belief in mythic personal responsibility and extreme individual rights that don’t account for life with others within a society (ok, that last phrasing is my biased way of analyzing his stance on individual rights).
If you feel like answering my main question of what you like about Paul, I’d be interested. If not, thanks for the civil post.
you do realize that it was manipulation of gold standard based currencies that set the stage for WW1 in the first place? you will not find a single real economist that thinks the gold standard is actually a good idea
don't people read history anymore? or do they just pick and choose whatever fits their religious/idealogical agenda?
"naked communist" a book written by a hack with a religious axe to grind. an avid follower of the drunken jackass known as mccarthy. part of the same bunch of religious idiots that forced the "under god" phrase into our pledge of allegience
danwill,
Just what I knew you would say, you know how I know?
Skousen wrote in his book all the typical responses that Liberals, Socialists and Marxists use to attempt to discredit the truth. Attack the writer, call him a racist bigot, a religious zealot and all the rest of the diatribe you guys use. This is what makes the response so funny because every time you do it, your just proving the truth of what is written.
Leon Skousen was an FBI agent charged with cataloging all the information that the FBI has learned, everything the American Communist Party stood for or advocated. He did this for 15 years and with permission, he published it. He also wrote a book called the Naked Capitalist for those of you who want to learn about that political/economic philosophy also.
You might want to read it, if anything to expand your mind so you will know how to respond without getting laughed at.
Just like you, no they don't,
just like you, they pick and chose whatever fits their ideological agenda!
Gingrich is a perfect solution for the Republican party. They want so desperately to return to a bygone era. I thought it was back to the 19th century . . . the period of Robber Barons. That would make Romney perfect for them.
Apparently it's all the way back to primordial slime. Hence . . . Gingrich.
Actually they want to move the U.S. to the time period of the Tzars, and remake the American citizen into the image of the Russian peasant. It is either that, or remake the U.S. into the mold of India and their 1001 Caste System.
Wonder when the Left Wing media is EVER going to talk about Obama's colored past and the illegal and radical actions of his top backers .....
You may return to FOX at your leisure.
Quit kidding ... name one time Bush is ever mentioned on right-wing hate-media and this thing called the 2012 GOP / Tea Bag prez hopefuls ...
LOL.
Bush was talked about all the time ... still is ... left wing media NEVER addresses Obama issues until forced to and then to a degree that one barely hears and that's fact
AS for FOX .. well like it or not they have 3 to 5 times the viewer of any other news network ... so either people like FOX the best or liberals are too uneducated to watch or listen to news ... given your idiotic comment .. the later is in effect
1) It's "latter", not "later"
2) If my comment is so idiotic why are you so quick to defend FOX?? Proof alone it was spot on.
Later ? ... and the rest of your desecration of the English language ? ... Yes you just proved that conservatives actually represent the dumbest-stupidest people on earth and that's why you vote for the likes of Bush & Palin and now Willard or Grinch or inSanatorium or Paulie ... and zombie-out in front of Faux Noize TV ...
I know this because it says so here ~
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html
LOL.
Rites ... your the fool who mentioned FOX ... like all liberals that's the only come back you have ... then you hate hearing how the ratings tell the story ...
FOX has nothing to do with obama spending more in 3 years then bush did in 8 .. with gas costing 84% more on average from the day he took office ... and so on and so on ... much less with obama blaming everyone and everything else for Everything .... Obama has no idea what to do ... outside of playing golf and going to parties and flying around on AF1
Rick Perry, is that you? There's enough errors in your grammar and spelling to make me think it is. Can't even spell Texas A & M.
You think Fox's viewership matters? That's like saying American Idol is the greatest show on TV simply because it get's the best ratings. The only reason Fox has such a high number of viewers is because the right wing nut jobs are obsessive compulsive wackos! Sort of like The Enquirer sells so many tabloids.
Andrews ... Texas A&I was a university in Kingsville ... i suggest before you comment you have a clue what your saying ...
As for typos ... well excuse me ... i am in my truck on the ranch on a small keyboard .. unlike you liberals who collect my taxes in welfare .... i have a business to run and since when is a message board a place for perfect english and full sentances .. YOU liberals do anything to avoid facing the actual topic and issues > JUST LIKE OBAMA
SKIING ... i suggest you liberals actually try watching the news ... and looking up facts ... because NONE of you ever seem to state one or even know one
"your the fool" Your? Oh my, do yourself a favor and go demand a refund from Texas A&I.
What did I say that wasn't a fact Texas?
What a shocker... a right wing nut job sitting in his truck acting all pi**ed at the Dems. lol Go find your cousin.
Wonder when the Left Wing media is EVER going to talk about Obama's colored past and the illegal and radical actions of his top backers ...
When they finish talking about the actions of the Right Wing and their backers. It is not the world's fault that the Right Wing has nothing sensible on their agenda, or that every one of their promises stink of hypocrisy.
skiing ... you stated NO fact .. Obama adds to the debt at a rate over 4.2 billion a day ... bush was at 2.6 and that was too much ... Gas is over 80% higher now .... i can state fact after fact and like all liberals you NEVER state a fact ....
Also .. i am not a Rep or Dem ... the enitre Gov > both parties spend too much ... The spending has to stop and the debt has to be reduced PERIOD .... if not the country will go under ... the debt is simply too high ...
Oh hogwash ... one of Cheneys' claim-to-fame statements is that *Deficits don't matter*
LOL.
Ummm, do you know that Oil is a commodity and is determined on a global basis? The cost of gas is actually higher during economic upticks and goes down during a bad economy. My guess is you weren't an economics major in college. My guess is your major was something like sheep herding or something.
I stated facts. I explained Fox's viewership, which you brought into the discussion, is so high because people are idiots. And I used facts to support my argument.
Texas A&I
1) It's "you're", not "your"
2) Once again, your quick defense of FOX and magical knowledge of their audience percentages PROVE my point.
Skiing .. i have oil on my land .. and gas .. dont even begin to tell me about the business ...
Your FOXnews comments are child-like ... grow up and pointless ...
exotic .. all of your comments everywhere are idiotic ... and make no sense ... ANYONE who think that Gov spending at this level by Obama and ALL of congress is a good thing is a fool .... and clearly you have never run a business ....
More intellectuals.......I just hope I get to interview a few today......Lets see 1 from Ohio State..lol 1 from Michigan, Oh yea I wonder who is is speaking there today. Sorry you do not fit into my team model, I need someone who can work with a team and your not it! Sorry! Not that Im for Newt, I just dislike arrogant people.
Rites .. do you EVER address the issues ... stop being a typical liberals and saying anything to avoid the issues and facts .... and again not everyone sits in their moms basement like you on their computer ... give the typos and short cuts insults a break ....
Why the nerve ... you can't even spell my name right ... its exotix ... LOL.
exotix exocrat ... who cares .. you prove my point > AGAIN... you never talk about the issue or fact ...
Farmer/rancher? How many government subsidies do you reap?
Youngblood .. i employ 104 full time people either on ranch or related business ... between the taxes > on all levels ... gov fees and such .. well trust me > The gov benefits from me > NOT ME FROM THEM .....
Again i am not Dem or Rep .. i want the Gov to stop spending and wasting $$$$ and Reduce the Debt before America goes under
Question unanswered just like a politician.
Youngblood ... hate to tell you .. not Every Farmer or Rancher gets or needs Gov help or benifits from programs ... and those who do .. are Dems / Reps & Ind alike ....
Texas A&I, saying you have oil and gas on your land so you know how it works is like saying I own a car so I know all about the Auto Industry. Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to have a discussion with a no nothing right winger from Texas... oh wait!
What does this even mean... "Your FOXnews comments are child-like ... grow up and pointless ..."? besides, you were the one who brought the importance of Fox News' viewership into the discussion.
Still unanswered.
If me wanting the Gov to stop spending and reduce the debt makes me a right winger > fine .. 75% of america is right wing then
I make money off selling oil and gas .. i know the business just fine .. unless you make money off products ford uses to make cars .. your comment is pointless
Youngblood ... ZERO ....
like the saying goes .... you take their money .. you have to take their Chit ...
exotix exocrat ... who cares .. you prove my point > AGAIN... you never talk about the issue or fact ...
Instead of assuming yourself as a Faux Noize Zombie ... check out MSNBC from 2pm to 10pm ... the lineup is Martin Bashir, Dylan Ratigan, Chris Matthews, Al Sharpton, Ed Schultz, Maddow and O'Donnell ...
From 5 to 8 in the morning is Joe Scarbourough (Morning Shmoe) ... this neocon-clown prides himself in narcissistic personality disorders ...
Chris Matthews himself is now becoming a joke ... he thinks he's some kind of *must-see-machiavellian* pundit who's days are now over since praising and kissing Gov. Mitch Daniels azz for his end-of-the-world-is-here GOP / Tea Bag State of the Union rebuttal that did nothing but prove just how insane the right-wing is ...
Al Sharpton has got to be the most hilarious ... anyone who can self-deprecate like he can ...
Well, he goes beyond *Fair & Balanced* ...
Then I guess you have a right to make the comments you have, but there are many out there making the same statements while lining their pockets with mine and yours.
You base your opinion on what is popular?
Do you also believe McDonalds makes great hamburgers?
Texas A&I you are SUCH a liar! Why would someone who makes money from selling gas and oil complain that the cost of oil is higher now than it was when Bush left office. Which, by the way, that was just when he LEFT office. It was actually almost 50% higher than the current price, in the middle of Bush's second term, but I digress. Explain to me how someone who supposedly makes their money off selling the stuff, complains that the price is too high? Gees dude, if you're going to tell fantasies, at least get your stories straight. Now you have completely discredited ANYTHING you claim about yourself.
Youngblood ... that statement is true .. many take funds in programs and grants ... some are justified .. many are not.
I suppose if i took what i could get, i would pocket a little more money after taxes and all ... However .. I am lucky .. i work / worked hard and have been lucky to make a good living and i am one of those who prefer to make a little less $$$ and keep more freedoms ...
The Gov is getting into TOO many areas of private and business life .. i would rather take nothing and limit their control ....
Gov is a mess .. and thats the issue .. Obama is the current fool in charge .. who knows after NOV ... ALL of congress is basically a waste of space ...
youngblood he is lying. First he complains about the cost of oil/gas. Then he says he sells the stuff... now why would someone who sells oil complain that the price is too high? Everything he says is a lie. My guess is he employs nobody. Just another nobody on here making wild claims.
Besides, if he did sell oil, then he gets all kinds of tax benefits from the country. After all, Exxon Mobil pays no income taxes, thanks to Bush eliminating those right before he left office.
kaybeestoy .. i actually remember the last time i ate at a McDonalds > Oct 5, 1973 ... guess that answers your question about McDonalds ... lol
Skiing .. I have Wells on my land ... i promise you ... while the average price of a gallon of gas is up over 80% since obama took office .. i did not get 80% plus in payments .. thats my point ...
We need more drilling in the US and less foreign oil ...
SKIING .... you are a fool .. you state Exxon and others pay NO tax > WELL
ExxonMobil
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2009 annual report to the SEC, recorded a larger income tax expense than any
other U.S. company last year, some $17.6 billion, or 47% of pretax earnings.
Exxon's peers Chevron
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First off - only an idiot would equate cable television viewership to validity.
Second - a recent study indicated that people who watched no news at all were more accurately informed of the going-ons of the world when compared to people who watched Fox News.
Third - several years ago another study was done and found that the average education level of the Daily Show viewer was much higher than the average viewer of the O'Rielly show.
Any other insightful yammering you would like to share?
Another misleading fact of yours. What did gas peak at under Bush? What did gas peak at during Obama?
Thanks. Now move along.
Wow..... slamming McDonalds! Ronalds going to stalk you!
Skiing you stating Exxon pays no tax just proves you need to shut up and that you NO idea what you are talking about
Skiing you stating Exxon pays no tax just proves you need to shut up and that you NO idea what you are talking about
Texas A&I, please stop, you are making such an idiot out of yourself. You do know you can't drill for "gas" right? Gas is a byproduct of refined oil. Seriously dude, you are completely clueless. Besides, more drilling would do NOTHING for the price of oil. You do realize the US refineries are sending gas OUT of the country at this point because we produce more than we use right? Try watching some real news instead of the lies they say on Fox News.
The only countries that have cheap oil/gas run the oil industries. The government itself controls the production. Is that what you want? Seriously dude? You're just some knucklhead college kid in Texas that has absolutely NO clue what he/she is talking about huh? Time to go to class moron.
Mike .. what a person recieves in payment for a well and what a gallon cost has little in relation ....
Texas A&I - "AS for FOX .. well like it or not they have 3 to 5 times the viewer of any other news network" From several polls that have been conducted, those who watch Fox news know less than those who don't watch any news so what does that say about your 3 to 5 x's viewers of Fox over other networks...hmmmm
I know Texas wants to eliminate education and all but please try and keep up. I was referring to your statement about gas being up 80% under Obama.
SKIING ... only idiot here is you .. typical idiotic liberals statement when you said Exxon paid no TAXES ... when in FACT they paid the largest % of Tax to gross income of any company in history ...
Mike fact is Right now gas per gallon cost over 80% today ... from the first day obama took office
Skiing .. i have been to many countries .. my wife is from overseas ... the cost of a gallon or litre of gas in another country is based on many factors .. some Gov .. Most economics ...
Its % of cost to average income ... not the price alone ...
You have no idea what your talking about and its clear everytime you post ...
If you love obama or hate bush or whatever thats fine > your right
But your comment on Exxon paying NO TAX and cost overseas shows you are clue-less
TexasA&I, it's amazing what an idiot you are. I would love to stay and argue with you, but I must go do some work now. I think it's pretty darn obvious you know NOTHING about the Oil/Gas industry even though you claim to be some oil tycoon. You can't get ANY of the facts straight. You complain that the price is too high though you claim to be the one selling the stuff. Cracks me up. bye idiot, have fun making an even bigger idiot out of yourself.
SKIING ... run off and use an excuse to ignore your idiotic comments ... like Exxon pays NO tax thanks to bush ... when in fact like i said they paid a Higher tax rate and over 17.8 billion in tax ....
one last thought idiot, the 17.8 billion in taxes they paid.... that was to other countries. Not the United States. Ding, try again. God you're an idiot, just keeeeeep trying. It's amazing how little you know.
Actually, you baggers can more appropriately use the subtitle of Faux Inquirer to better describe the trash that floats the airwaves. Maybe your adept minds can wrap around this, Mega churches use subliminal messaging to mind flock the ignorant. Those same avenues of doing the same of the ignorant public looking for real news are and have been used by Faux News. Proof you say? A very good friend of sound mind has turned from a rational thinking person to a fanatical idiot who is willing to slit the throats of anyone who is of African American blood, Mexicans, on welfare, even though he is on the rolls, the elderly, because they drag the system down; I have caught him screaming at the Faux Newscast when they run commentaries about anyone who they are against, to the extent that we fear for the safety of the elderly mother he takes care of. All that comes out of his mouth is 4 letter words when he rambles on against anyone that Faux News puts down. Its getting so bad that there are hardly anyone that visits from the family, his friends do not come around anymore. The outside contact comes from Glenn Beck.com and only after he donates money for the cause. Btw I work 6 days a week, 60 hrs a week, have my own insurance and a union pension plan.
so there I responded, and now I have to go. Can't sit around all day. You can skip class, but I have to work.
Skiing .. you really need to shut up ... EXXON does in fact pay Taxes and does in fact pay Taxes in the USA ...
You call other people idiots and claim Exxon pays NO taxes ... Grow up.
Oh and here is an article to prove my point. And no, it isn't from a left leaning website. Try reading some facts moron.
I tried to include the link, but it didn't accept it.
Hopefully it works so you can see...
oh well, it didn't let me put the link, so I just copied and pasted for you. This is from the CNN/Money website. You can do a search for it if you like... but here is the text.
U.S. federal: -$156 million
U.S. state and local: $110 million
International: $15.2 billion
Exxon paid the most taxes last year of any U.S. company, by far -- but not a cent went to the IRS for income taxes. That's because the oil giant does business in some of the mostly highly taxed countries in the world. Want to extract petroleum in Nigeria? Be prepared to fork over up to 85% of your profit in tax payments.
Exxon doled out more than $15 billion in income tax payments to foreign countries last year. U.S. tax codes allow companies to take massive deductions in light of those international charges, which knocked Exxon's federal income-tax bill down into negative territory.
That said, Uncle Sam gets his money in other ways. Including sales taxes and duties, Exxon recorded $7.7 billion in U.S. tax costs last year, and paid even more overseas.
Its grand total in global taxes for the year? A whopping $78.6 billion. The company's effective income tax rate was a hefty 47%, its highest in three years.
Skiing .. Exxon USA ... does pay tax in the USA ... live with it
I suppose facts and numbers mean nothing to you. Now I really must go. bye idiot. Have fun chewing on the FACTS I posted for you.
Hey Texas A&I- You ever heard the term, "pugilist"? You might want to go look it up.....'cause that's you!
Oh, and a quick scan of ALL (OMG, count 'em) your pointless posts provides a clear assessment that you really have nothing pertinent to offer, just more of the same old, tired, liberal-bashing....[sigh]
Look. This website ISN'T FOX. It doesn't suck like the Fox Forum sucks. It may suck a little at times, especially when people like you waste all this space promoting your myopic agenda, but it's still far better than Fox Forum. Please go there, you'll like it better. It's full of people with your particular ideology, so you'll "fit in" better, and they are more akin to your intelligence level, so you won't feel so distraught and may actually be able to keep up with the debate.
Just trying to help you find your niche, Texas A&I. It would make EVERYBODY happy, no?
Texas A&I, I don't know if you are a troll, purposefully ignorant, a liar or just plain stupid but it HAS to be one of those things because everything you say is not backed up by any facts. Like this gem...
"FOX has nothing to do with Obama spending more in 3 years then bush did in 8"
If you actually paid any attention to news other than the fake stuff from Fox you would know that the so called extra spending you claim Obama has done came from PRESIDENT BUSH. How? I am glad you ignore it and didn't ask, like most right wingers, so I will tell you. President Bush kept the cost of the two wars he started completely off the books. Bush LIED to the American people. President Obama decided to stop the Bush Lie and add the cost of the two Bush Wars into the deficit. When he did it skyrocketed. Those two wars have been driving the deficit up like an out of control freight train. So get a clue and blame BUSH.
Secondly, I am not going to prove the rest of what you have said wrong, I don't have that much time but...
"Mike fact is Right now gas per gallon cost over 80% today ... from the first day Obama took office"
The average gas price under President Bush was $4.12 a gallon. This was between June and August 2008 when Bush was still president. Right now the highest average gas price under President Obama was $3.82. Under President Obama the average gas price has never topped $4.00. BTW, gas plummeted to $1.62 right after Obama was elected because the gas companies were scared of him and what he might do to them. Once they found out they were in the clear they started slowy inching the prices back up again. They have used every little excuse to raise the price, all of them fake.
So stop lying.
LMAO........ They were scared of Mr Obama. You do realize they could all pullout of this country and try a one time ding on their financials and force the price of gas to European standards with ease. I have nothing against Mr Obama as a man and a father, just not a fan of this administrations policies. I have no issues with him being re-elected as long as we have Minority leaders Pelosi and Reid.
T.A.I. Enough allready!
Texas A&I Just quit you cant get anything into these fools heads they think they know whats going on.
As they say the Repubs need the wealthy vote to get elected that is why the repubs want everyone to get a job and pay there share.
As for the Demos they need the poor vote to get elected that is why they keep giving out all these hand outs like welfare for those that CAN work but refuse to that is why they keep them down.
Simple to understand.
Where's the similar report on George Soros?
NBC / MSNBC have never heard of Soros when it comes to reporting .... their type isnt allowed to put those 5 letters together ....
So...
GOP supporter dumping millions into candidates - OK
Dem supporter dumping millions into candidates - NOT OK
Gotcha.
What do you expect from someone claiming to be a Texan riding around in his pick-em-up pecking out illiterate posts on his tiny keyboard? And by the way, big Tex, how much did ya have to pay that diploma mill to get permission to wave your Texas A&I banner? LOL google Texas A&I University. This is what you get!
http://www.university-college.com/step1.jsp#1
If liberals are so smart, why is Europe collapsing right in front of our eyes. I have a hard time understanding why you are unable to deal with reality. liberal policy doesn't work. We have proof, but you continue to think Obama is leading us down a path to prosperity. Obama policy is leading us to Greece. We can all see what is happening to Greece, to Italy, to Spain, and to France and it is the same social policy that Obama wants for us that has created the collapse...this isn't fantasy it is real. THINK-look around at the world--STOP BELIEVING THE LIE.
According to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice.
Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions.
Boyd,
It is obvious that you have little to no understanding of the difference between Greece and The United States, especially in the arena of economics. Do yourself a favor and go to this link and educate yourself and come back knowing what you are talking about as opposed to where you are presently.
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2011/07/11/110711ta_talk_surowiecki
Is George Soros making similar contributions in reality? Or only in the imaginations of the right wing?
I mean, the right wing credits Soros with founding and completely funding MoveOn.org based on a one-time donation he made something like 8 or 9 years after it was founded to fight the Clinton Impeachment movement.
Reality and the right wing have always had a difficult time existing in the same space, apparently.
Jon- you know how it is - the right has to have their boogey-man. Right now it happens to be George Soros. Before it was Willie Ayers. Before that it was Reverend Wright. Before that it was ACORN. You can trace it back all the way to the "commies" taking over Hollywood.
Now, people like Adelson are real boogeymen - $10 million (that we know about) "invested" in the Presidential race so far, with no limit in sight. But the right doesn't know the difference.
USA - For sale to the highest bidders. It was bad enough with all the lobbyists in DC, now we have the Super Pacs to say whatever they want in support of their chosen puppets. Regardless of what Justice Alito said, the Super Pacs were an extremely bad idea.
Modern day America politics has an influence on the Supreme Court which is why they allowed this- don't vote for either party they are garbage influenced by special interests-
What isn't special interests?
You got oil... you got banks and financial people.. you got the gays... you got casino owners... you got green energy folks.. everyone is a "special interest" so that is pretty meaningless to be one.
let him throw his money away! At least until Obama can make him pay his fair share of taxes, I say!
It's still a long *wacky* road for Grinch to win the whitehouse, do another 9/11 and invade Iran for the neocon-zionists ... so the Jews need to get their money back from Madoff and make the investment in Grinch to even come close to the Billion Dollar Obamanation Campaign ...
I have been wondering for years now... what in the world is our obsession with Israel!?!? I don't care about Israel any more than I care about Switzerland, Ireland, or Denmark!
Amen!
The Christian crazies want Armageddon in the Mideast so they can all go to Heaven in the "Rapture" by the way the Jews are just pawns, they will not be going to Heaven!!
I wonder how our fine veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan will take to a President funded by a wanna be Zionist who wishes he had not served in the American Army. This is patriotism Tea Party style. Hur-Rah!
(R-Va) Eric Cantor is a *teabag* Jew and look what he's done for America so far ... sad.
"Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino mogul bankrolling Newt Gingrich’s super PAC isn’t trying to “buy” a presidency, his top political consultant tells NBC News."
LOL... IMO: He is just buying more US money and weapons for Israel, so they can continue to harrass the Gaza strip folks.
cant be any worse than what Obama has done to this country in the short time he has been in charge.
Need to get rid of all this government overspending on everything from Union dues for government officials since when is the government taking advantage of its employees give me a break, the only good thing a union does in these days is keep a lazy person his job not sure if it is really a good thing but hey they can keep lazy people to get a paycheck so they can take part of it.
Quit trying to force people to buy stuff they don't want next thing you know everyone will have to purchase life insurance so the states wont have to bury anyone or the IRS will fine them, now we have the IRS working as a bill collector for private industries.
I have some invoice for the company that I work for that are not being paid will they collect it for my company also. I pay taxes just like some other americans do cant say all because alot of Obama supporters don't.
(R-Va) Eric Cantor is a *teabag* Jew and look what he's done for America so far ... sad
Exotix...clearly shades of Archie Bunker !
The true war mongers showed their faces last night in the debate, Sant, Newt, and Mitt. Theses three will be just another Bush
Not any different than Obama saying that he isn't going to allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon either!
Warmongers ALL!
Obama has also changed his mind since his original campaign speech- did you not hear the war drum beating concerning Iran and Israel? Wake up my friend this country only cares about one country and it's not ours
MTX: War mongers??? Only from the mind of an idiot could someone call Republicas "war mongers", Who was in power then>>>first world war, second world war, Korea, Vietnam??? You know Who and it was The Democrats. Count the deaths from all those conflicts.
I forget who wants to cut everything domestically except for the military? Please remind me.
"Only from the mind of an idiot could someone call Republicas "war mongers", Who was in power then>>>first world war, second world war, Korea, Vietnam??? You know Who and it was The Democrats. Count the deaths from all those conflicts."
You do realize that it was those same Democrats who later left the Democrat party and became the noeconservatives of the Republican party. Only Ron Paul is a Republican candidate running that represents the traditional antiwar Republican stance.
I guess you must have missed the State of the Union speech where Obama threatened Iran and said "no option is off the table" when it comes to preventing Iran from getting nukes. Of course Obama will not actually start shooting bullets at Iran until about August or September this year when he will think it will help his re-election. They are all war mongers when it suits them. KEEP GOVERNMENT SMALL.
Don't worry! If the TP/Libertarian/GOP gets their way, our Military will be manned by and led by some or other Corporation. Our Congress will consist of a Corporate CEO and staffers, our Judicial System, ditto, and Voters will be passe. And PS, we will be required to worship as a Fundamentalist of a yet defined Sect.
Remember under Corporate Law, you will be subject to complete and total obedience and servitude requirements.
Mrhuh
So Mr Wilson (WWI) was a dixiecrat, FDR and Truman (WWII & Korea) were Dixicrats also, And according to you LBJ was a dixiecrat TOO!!
MMUUUHHH Hahahahahahahahahahaah!
Wilson was a New Jersey progressive, FDR was a New York Progressive that serven Wilson as an assistant Secretary of the Navy, Truman was a Missouri Machine Democrat known as the Senator from Pendergrast (Tom Pendergrast of Missouri, ran a political machine similar to Tammany Hall), And LBJ was a Texas Progressive War Hawk.
(also of note in 1922 Truman did pay the initiation fee to become a member of the KKK, however he never took the initiation and received a refund of the fee. He wa also a 33rd degree Freemason)
NONE of these presidents were even close to being a conservative dixiecrat.
You might want to bone up on your party's history before you embarrass yourself again.
Who isn't trying to buy the Presidency. Do they think we're stupid? Every elected official is bought. That's the problem with them in most cases.
A president who has been bought is very bad. A president who has been bought by Israel is the worse thing one can imagine, unless you are a Zionist intent on a war with Iran.
These Republicans, with the exception of Ron Paul, are going to do their best to bring about an American attack on Iran, even though their is no hard proof that Iran has any intention of building nuclear weapons.
All we have is retoric from Israel and Zionists in the US that they "think" Israel wants to build nuclear weapons. The same fools were certain that Iraq had WMD and was attempting to build nuclear weapons, which helped precipitate a war, which will cost the US over 3 trillion dollars.
Zionist warmongers like Ken Adelman and the Zionist Washington Post pushed the war in an editorial titled, “Cakewalk in Iraq.” Jewish supremacists Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz told you that Iraq would “Welcome us as liberators.” Iraq became the longest war in American history. Here is a report from USA Today: “Pentagon officials estimated for the first time Wednesday that up to 360,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans may have suffered traumatic brain injuries.” Now that’s not counting tens of thousands who have suffered maiming, amputations, or death in this war based on lies.
Do we want a repeat of the above results? Hell no!
This guy is a creep who should have his US citizenship revoked. Imagine if a German-American, a Japanese-American, or a Russian-American said they should have fought for Germany or Japan or the Russians. It's ok I guess if you fight for an ancestral country. Many Americans did this in the First World War. But it's a whole other issue when you denigrate wearing the American uniform. This guy is unappreciative of all that this country has given him. He's right about one thing...he should have gone to Israel, become an Israeli citizen and fought in their wars. Oh...he also wouldn't be the billionaire he is today.
Let me see if I under stand Adelson's logic. He is to Newt as Joe Kennedy was to John.
So Sheldon Adelson is claiming to be Newt's father?
I wonder,
If Newt wins the presidency, is he going to tip his hat to Adelson like Jack tipped his to Joe?
I always believed Newt was a bastard. I just didn't know whose.
I don't care how he is spending his money, it won't influence my vote. I talked my son out of the fondness he had for Obama four years ago by pointing out that all of the primary candidates in both parties, except one, had gone to the Israeli lobby and promised to protect Israeli's interests with the blood of America's children, including his since he was of draft age. This time, I eliminated five of the seven candidates in the first Republican debate because they raised their hands in support of torture.
As for the "invented people" idea, Americans are the original "invented people" since we fit all of the descriptions the extreme Israeli's use to classify the Palestinians as such so the claim that makes them unfit to be a Nation doesn't work for me. Neither is it going to work too well for someone who wants to be President of the U.S. since he can't be president of a Nation whose people are unfit to be one.
Americans are tired of "the best government money can buy". The more money Newt raises from men like this, the more certain it is that he will be rejected. Perhaps he should register as "an agent of a foreign country" under that old cold war law.
(in a deep james earl jones voice...)
NEWT... use the force newt....
I am your FATHER newt!
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
With pockets as deep as Adelson's, I bet old Newtie would be kike "YESSSSS!!!"
Make that "YESSSSS!!!" into "Hisssss!!! Newt is nothing but a snake in the grass --- a gopher snake, at that.
Americans are an invented people but we don't want to destroy another country and all of its people. Two states are the solution to the Palestinan problem, but both states have to acknowledge the right of the other state to exist. Right now Palestinian leadership will not do that and I have no problem with the US and it's government making a decision to support any country whose neighbors are determined to destroy them, and that includes Israel.
So what your saying is Newt should not accept this money. He is not accepting the money he has no controll over who donates to a super pac just like Obama has no controll over who donates to his super pac everyone should just drop it.
Obama has cost everyone in this country with the debt that he just doen't seem to get a grip on.
The government takes in X amount of dollars so they spent X amount plus another Trillion or 2 each yr if you or me run our checkbooks like that they would arrest us and throw away the keys.
Listen to all the GOP: party of No: No: & Newt: That wants to go to the moon. & Mitt: sending his money off shore, so he doesn't have to pay Taxes. Its all about the Wealthy getting richer and the middle class getting poorer.....They don't want to help out the poor, I do mean the poor not the lazy good for nothings...Who are the one's that leach off the taxpayer.They: are the Wealthy that get welfare both for themselves or for the Corps. So really All party are at fault...But it seems that the Wealthy get away with it like the Corzine.(.Democrat )...They steal billions and the few poor steals a few thousands. So what does the GOP want to do is Screw the MIddle Class to get even with the few. As I say its the me me me and F everyone else.... The failures of the Republicans party trying to take away SS and Medicare so they can give their wealthy Blackmailers more money...To hell with the Poor and Needy. Let them freeze in the winter and stave the Old and Babies,let them die from bad water, do away with the EPA and thats what you'll have, just like all you Teabaggers want...You make me sick with your Me Me Me altitude. It just a matter of time before the masses raise up against you . Greedy and you all call yourself Christains. What a laugh: Your no better than all the Muslims you all hate. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP Vote for Newt because Obama doesn't give a Hoot. Obama 2012
Wake up--Really. Can you see what is happening in Greece, Italy, Spain and France. The government policy that has created the collapse of the EU economy is Obama policy. He is duplicating these policies and you think he is brilliant. Sure hate all the people who have been successful and worship all the people who have created nothing but poverty and riots in the streets. You think I am asleep, I am awake and actually looking at what is going on in the world. Socialism is a path to failure, not speculation just plain hard fact.
You've been glued to FOX again, haven't you?
Remember, FOX talking points are no substitute for facts.
Fail Boyd. go back and try again. You wouldn't know a policy if it slapped you in the face.
Look at the Italian and Greek news on the internet, actually find a fact. Are you saying there are no riots in Greece and Italy, that the EU is NOT on the verge of financial collapse? What do you have instead of a brain? The problem you Obama supporters have is that most people are actually smart enough to understand that following european socialist policy produces the exact same results that are taking place in Europe. Doing the same thing and expecting different results--you call that brilliant?
You can't blame fox news for what is happening to europe. it is socialist policy that has created the financial collapse in Europe, not fox news. Unbelievable.
Boyd-4008127 and others: Would those Countries be in trouble if they didn't join the "One World Currency" idea. Also would those Countries be in trouble if we still had good Regulations in Place before Obama's election to prevent the triggering of our past Recession? Go even further back to the time that the Stock Market sanctioned the sale of Junk Bonds and Penny Stocks. Could we have prevented the problems that these sales caused? Would the "Great Depression" still have occurred if we had strong regulations in place before the Stock Market crashed?
Go backwards in time to the end of the Vietnam War. Our Oil Companies lost their biggest buyer of their products when the Military cut back on the purchase of oil and gas. What was those Companies going to do. They were stuck with a huge surplus. Along came OPEC. Since OPEC was also affected, they welcomed our Big Oil's input into how to raise prices that benefited themselves and our Big Oil. Embargo we go. The general Public be dam*. PS: Those prices have steadily risen ever since. Could tougher Regulations have helped? Quite possibly if the General Public had know about the pact (Collusion = Treason) between OPEC and Big Oil and had our Government acted appropriately.
Put in the Big Oil blurb because, somehow, we always fail to heed the errors of the past.
Boyd
Please do us all a favor....... and go back to sleep
Boyd did not see on your post that you were tired. dont know what these fools on MSNBC like hugh, scgardian, harbinger and sally. As they can only read there news on this news agency and believe everything on here like the sheep they are. If they would take the time and actually listen to all the news agencies out there and take what you know is true you can find the truth on all networks just a little harder on here and the liberal media networks. Fox gives a point of view just like msnbc just like cnn and bbc news none of them will tell you the whole truth just like none of them will fabricate a story out of pure hate as they are responsible for the info that they put out there.
Msnbc will leave out the just enough info so you can tell just how bias they are.
Oh goodie, another war fought for Israel interests.
This time let's let Israel go it alone. If Adelson wants a war with Iran, let him go back there himself as he seems to love Israel more than the US.
take Liberman w/him- you know that Republican/Dem?Independant or whatever party he is
I say, require Adelson to send ALL of his kids into combat divisions in the upcoming war with Iran that he and many others have been fomenting for years.
I, for one, am sick and tired of old rich people starting wars and expecting the poor man's sons to fight and die in them.
Let's make a law that says any politician, be it a legislative or executive branch, that puts forth a bill to go to war (or otherwise any military action) against a foriegn entity must place an immediate family member into service in a way that will subject them to direct combat.
Forget money. Let's see our wealthy Congress put their blood where their mouths are!!
GOP plant
@Indy Patroit
your right on,these low lifes should have their citizenship taken away. Like shrub used to say Your Either With Us Or Against Us. You know come to think of it, you don't hear much from that ex-big shot.
This from yesterdays MSNBC page.
Seriously, any Newt supporters, please justify the expense to colonize the moon.
To rescue all you supposed "really smart" people orbiting our moon!
Wow - what hypocrits the press are? How about Obama's Billionaire funder George Soros, who essentially OWNS MSNBC and several other outlets - like AOL's Huffington Post. Oh, but this supposed news agency won't mention their Billionaire boss owning the White House (number one covert contributer to OBAMA BABY) , will they. THIS is pure tyranny and ABSOLUTE arrogance by any news agency in a Democracy. PRAVDA could have learned something from these boys and girls.
better start stocking "prozac", son . . . you gonna need it for the next 4 yrs !
i heard "eli lilly" is deliberately producing less so they can charge you guys more
eli is a common hebrew name . . . get it ? . . . i don't think so, too !
so RK, how do you see the similarities b/w MSNBC and HuffPost "owning" Obama and this shame of a "citizen" Adelson buying out Gingrich?? wtf is wrong with how you pple are wired in the head... so HuffPost and MSNBC all benefit and make money out of the social programs Obama supports, Social Security, social health care, higher taxation for the rich...is this f***g common sense to you, brain surgeons? even if it were true, cant you see it doesnt make any sense? just because the right is corrupted to the core, doesnt mean left is too...but then it's very probable each and every one of you righties are corrupted to your cores, or just plain dumb. Not sure which one is worse...
Allegation or not, when you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas...taking $$$ from this scumbag should put the NEWT ON MUTE !
Newt is not taking the MONEY you Idiot read the story Paul
I would call this a "agenda". Yea,America is going the right way.
So much for government of the people, by the people etc.
Yep, it going to be government of the world, by the international banks, for the rich...
The rich are evil, but government is good. Right-- you people are amazing. Who do you think the rich people have to buy in order to have power the rich people have no power by themselves they have to get in bed with government in order to have power. The larger the government is the more power the rich people can have by buying it. If you want to stay free, shrink the government, the less powerful the government is the less likely the rich are to buy it. It stops being a good investment when it is small and weak and the people actually have and exercise their individual rights. Get a clue. Why do you think people like Soros and this guy backing Newt play this game. Government has the power. It is the government that is evil, we have to have one but lets keep it from owning us.
In a few years that "Of the People, By the People, For the People" will be passe. The new slogan will strictly be: "Of the Corporations, By the Corporations, For the Corporations". We will truly be Corporate America, a branch of the "One World Government".
If anyone is still in doubt, Google Libertarianism. Then Google our slate of Republicans (include those who have departed) who have professed to be Libertarians or lean towards Libertarianism. Next do the same for those Candidates who use or know the "Austrian School of Economics" system. Next, Google the "One World Government and One World Monetary" system. Then go back and Google which Candidates have had or still have connections to the Koch Bros. and then which has ties to the "American Enterprise Institute" and the AEI Trustees. PS: also Google "C" Street and its Guru.
If you make a chart of your found data, you will be amazed if not dumb-foundered. It makes one feel like one is walking through an active minefield with a sniper in every outlying tree.
So true SC that is why we need to get the dems out of there before they give everything away to those who do not deserve it or that did not work for it.
A few million is a small investment to get a president that bends to the will of Israel. Think of the expense of going to war with Iran. Only America could afford to do it.
sheldon adelson "plays to win" and "puts his money where his mouth is "
the only thing he's going to win now, is newt's wife . . . and only, with a "diamond ring from tiffany's" in his mouth !
Blatant attempt to buy a presidency. End of story. Thank You Supreme Court for ruling that corporations the same as people and that anyone can give as much as they want to a SuperPac (Office Purchase Fund).
This Government is beyond corrupt.
Look who Thomas had a relationship with. He is from Texas, is a Billionaire, and a huge fan of tyrants. In fact he is such a fan, that he has huge statures of them at his Estate. Initials H. C. PS: He also is one of the Trustees of the "American Enterprise Institute" and the one that has given expensive gifts to Thomas like a Douglass Bible.
Sleazy.
You really think a candidate won't kiss that donor's ass when he gets elected?
You know he will.
Yes, just like Obama kisses George Soros's ass.
http://www.gazette.com/articles/george-122342-malkin-obama.html
I thought barry just licked it clean.
grilledcheesesandwich you're showing your stupidity, you're link is to an article by Michelle Malkin, whose one of the nuttiest wacko creeps that the right wingnuts like you have.
neastsider - what's STUPID is believing that this kind of information would EVER be disclosed by a left wing lunatic. You are a real piece of work. I also checked on your previous comments. You are nothing but a worthless troll who has absolutely nothing of substance to say. All you ever do is run around these boards calling people names. You are either ten years old - or a dim-witted loser who lives in his mother's basement.
yo, grilled.........etc.
You sure told him, didn't ya? Man, it sure smells like the pot calling the kettle.............etc.
People in glass houses?
neatsider just like this with Newt is only printed on a Left wingnut new agency that you trolls like to take as gospel. FOOLS the only reason I am on here is to just make a point that the government does not care about you or me they only care about the little more than 400 people in Washington, DC. working in the capital building supposedly working for the rest of the people BUNCH OF BS!
Whether it's Adelson, Soros or whomever, they play to win. Win what you ask? Whatever is on their "bucket list". Adelson just told us one of his items. What are the other items?
It's not good for America. Corruption at the highest levels in both parties.
we need to back a garbage truck up to washington and throw all these sleazy people in it- time to take out the trash America
Dr. Nooooo gets the qupie doll. ding ding ding!