The latest NBC/WSJ poll found Americans are becoming more optimistic about the state of the economy. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
Americans are growing more optimistic about the state of the economy and direction of the country, according to a new NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll out Wednesday evening, and President Obama is receiving better grades on his handling of the economy and job as a result.
More people said they believe the economy will get better (37 percent) in the next year rather than worse (17 percent). That’s the highest level in more than a year and a seven-point jump over last month. It also represents a reversal from October, when 32 percent of Americans said they expected the economy to get worse, versus 21 percent who expected improvement.
READ partial results of the NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll
"The calendar says it’s the dead of winter, but for President Obama, these results must feel like the start of spring," said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff.
The number of people who said the country is headed in the right direction, 30 percent, remains far lower than the 61 percent of U.S. adults who think it is off on the wrong track.
But the figures represent a change in trajectory; the number of Americans who said the country is on the right track is up eight points from last month, and 13 points from October.
And for the first time in six months, more people approve of the job the president is doing (48 percent) than disapprove (46 percent).
“The psychology about the economic conditions has switched,” Hart said. “The old saying is a rising tide lifts all boats then clearly, this economic optimism has clearly lifted Obama's ratings."
But Congress sees no boost from any emerging sense of optimism. Instead, its 13 percent approval rating remains near historic lows, while 80 percent disapprove of the way lawmakers are doing their job. That’s the same as it was the last time the question was asked in August.
The record low in the history of the poll was 12 percent, set in October 2008, right before that year’s elections.
“The president still has a very long road ahead of him,” Hart said, “but for the first time in a long time, he finds that he has the wind at his back. For the Congress, they are going into a headwind, and there is a need to prove themselves.”
The poll comes on the heels of three straight months of positive economic data, including an unemployment rate that has dropped below 9 percent for the first time in more than two years and job growth that has exceeded expectations.
It serves as a warning to Republican running for president, said McInturff, the Republican pollster.
“Republicans had better bring their A-game to the election in November,” he said, “as today's results are a reminder -- as attitudes about the economy improve, so does President Obama's standing.”


OUCH!
This news, on top of the home run SOTU speech last night is not going to sit well with those on the right!
It must be difficult for the RWNJ's to sit back and watch it ALL slipping away from them... lol
Maybe if they had NOT allowed their party to be hijacked by a bunch of extremists they wouldn't be in this predicament.
Live and learn I guess...
As a proud Democrat, I am having the time of my life watching this train wreck unfold!
*popcorn*?
Putting politics aside for a moment I hope it does get better.
back to politics though, Europe is getting worse, and dammit, gas is going up.
Plus it ain't like they are cutting expenses, and gov. revenue is dependent on last year's income.
But seriously I wonder how this plays in Fla right now, where unemployment is near 10%
Besides they've been touting 'recovery summer' for three years now.
We'll just have to wait and see.
So the giant 49er game was on one channel and had 56 million viewers. The SOTU is on every network channel every cable channel and only 28 million tune in. Hey, Obama guess what America has tuned you out. Has anybody found a favorable editorial about last nights rehash?
Hell, even the AP headline read "obama delivers same ideas that already flopped"
What a tragedy this empty suit turned out to be.
Obama's entire speech can be summed up in these few sentences......
Of all the things to depend on, isn't government the smartest choice? You could depend on yourself, but come on. You know yourself; you fail all the time. You could depend on your friends and family, but they'll eventually get sick of you. But government will always love you and be there for you.
I submit that this man is an imminent threat to the fabric of our great nation and it's ideals.
He must be fired in November!
Now more of the fraud and duplicity of Obama's bulls9@t is coming to light.
His little buddy Warren Buffet's secretary makes somewhere between 200,000 to 500,000 dollars a year.
This sham needs a lot more daylight.
Time to pony up her tax returns. Put up or shut up time for this lying administration and it's friends that are obviously on the take.
Hey, Warren how much so you stand to make with Keystone being shut down?p>
What was I saying about watching it all slip away from them...? lol
Come on Rob, people are always saying Obama hasn't accomplished anything. But contrary to popular belief, BO has an impressive list of accomplishments!
• First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner
• First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in
• First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States
• First President to violate the War Powers Act
• First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
• First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law
• First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party
• First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs
• First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters
• First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat
• First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the US , including those with criminal convictions
• First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees
• First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space
• First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present
• First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it
• First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases
• First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory
• First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN…)
• First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago
• First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case
• First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office
• First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date
• First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records
• First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it
• First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'
• First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer
• First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife
• First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense
•First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an, tells us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth
• First President to take a 17 day vacation....
Rob in ma,
Don't know what country you live in but the country I live in looks better and better daily under the leadership of a very strong and wise man, Barack Obama. If you think the citizens of this country will go back to the failed stupidity of the Republican party, you must be drinking your dinner or have a middle name of Mitt or W. Take your choice which of the current or former carnival barkers of your party you prefer.
You are either a brave and unabashed rump swab for Obama or completely deluded to think Obama had a good night last night.
Well, congrats to you for keeping a straight face is all I can say.
brianb
WOW, you must have that aluminum hat of to tight today. Please get back on your meds!
Gee Brian, were those more of your famous "rectum-derived" statistics?
Literally, every single one on your list was demonstrably made-up.
Feisty, the extremist have gone beyond hijacking. They ARE the party. There are no moderates left.
More bad news for the RWNJ as the GDP is expected to rise.
Guess they will have to go back to the old stand by birther issue.
More bad news for the RWNJ as the GDP is expected to rise in 2012.
Guess they will have to go back to the old stand by birther issue.
Obama's approval rating in January 2009 - 69%
Obama's approval rating in January 2010 - 57%
Obama's approval rating in January 2011 - 47%
Obama's approval rating in January 2012 - 44%
And when it "improves" to where now 30% think the economy is on the right track ...the Beavis and Betty Butthead crowd says ....
Yea .... Betty .... lol.
Well, lets see how those "google" searches are going.
Monday was 16.5m Obama blames; 523m pro Obama
Today 35.5m Obama blames, up 19m hits; 561m pro Obama, up 40m hits
Seems pro Obama consistently out performs Obama blames! It is a bad day for the right.
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You're pretty foolish.
Yes, and watch the Republican attacks get more and more preposterous. Pretty soon they will be blaming Obama for the fall of Rome. Reactionary to the nth degree. Insanity on top of insanity. They simply do not care about the nation, only their reactionary agenda.
If the economy is improving we have to give credit where credits do. It,s obviously the obstructionist republicans right to claim. Since the dems still have not passed a budget how in the hell can they claim our booming economic recovery?
x
Well, lets see how those google searches are going.
Monday was 16.5m Obama blames; 523m pro Obama
Today 35.5m Obama blames, up 19m hits; 561m pro Obama, up 40m hits
Seems pro Obama consistently out performs Obama blames! It is a bad day for the right.
Let's see...he passed a health care bill - portions of which WILL be struck down by the Supreme Court. And he rejected the pipeline, which his own State Department had studied and approved. You're right about a party being "hijacked"...you're just referencing the wrong party.
If the economy is improving we have to give credit where credits do. It"s obviously the obstructionist republicans right to claim. Since the dems still have not passed a budget how in the hell can they claim our booming economic recovery?
Who's "The Food Stamp President"..??
Let's see...he passed a health care bill - portions of which WILL be struck down by the Supreme Court. And he rejected the pipeline, which his own State Department had studied and approved. You're right about a party being "hijacked"...you're just referencing the wrong party.
Who's "The Food Stamp President"..??
Brianb.
Nice parroted list. It preserves your delusional reality nicely. LOL!!!
Dumb, dee, dee, dumb, dumb, dumb....
And Brian plagerized his list from here:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/barack%20obama?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx17XU95ZE3WLUZ&cdThread=Tx3GG11EVCE9L3S
Wassa matter, Brian? No original thoughts of your own? How about giving the author some credit, at the very least?
Who's "The Food Stamp President"..??
Teapublican folks are lookin for rolaids and heartburn medications about this news plus the fact that it's about to get ugly on how a billionare like Romney could pay so little in Taxes while we average folks that's keeping this country going, end up paying on average 34% tax....even a redneck like me know that aint right folks....
Nice campaign speech.... What about the state of the union? Whoever said this guy is a great orator is an absolute idiot to think this idiot is anything great.....
Thanks Mr President for your Optimisim of America's future. I too know things are getting better, as a small business I am busy as hell now and am thinking about hiring again.
It's to bad you have to deal with a bunch of right wing radicals who are intent on destroying every jobs bill offered even ones they sponsored?? I can't believe Infrastructure is wasteful spending to these fools.
Americans aren't all as idiots like Rob above who I believe really want America to fail so they can get their Idiot Retards back in office who caused this Nightmare Recession we are crawling out of... Doom and Gloom Rob right??
Nice to see that the bloggers out here aren't fooling anyone with their own press. The beginning of the end for this administration is at hand and will come full circle to it's end at the end of this year.
Nice to see that the bloggers out here aren't fooling anyone with their own press. The beginning of the end for this administration is at hand and will come full circle to it's end at the end of this year.
HEY ROB..Bitter much?
Let'em cry Annabanana, There all gonna start getting even pissier now that they KNOW there falling off to the sideline!
See Rob this is an ACTUAL POLL. Taken and cunducted by BOTH Parties. Not like FOX News who BTW just got turned down by the Canadian Government to allow them to Broadcast there. Seems its ILLEGAL TO LIE THERE. seems like a good law. We should get one of those Eh?BTW you guys are losing your you know what in the electiond for Congress. Must be annoying as hell to know that not only are people not listening to the BS that people like you put out, but also that your losing your seats in the house!!
Nice to see that the bloggers out here aren't fooling anyone with their own press. The beginning of the end for this administration is at hand and will come full circle to it's end at the end of this year.
Please oh please google "Pro Obama" as Red suggests.
What you find is hilarious. It's all searches from people that can't believe how pro the media is about this failed president.
Hahahahhahaha
booby.
The point I think they are making is that the only thing the GOP really has had is an economy that is not up to par. If that shows real and sustained growth and shows solid recovery, the GOP has nothing.
The facts certainly don't support their over parroted opinions...
Go Feisty, they just can't stand it Obama is doing a good job, can't wait for Nov and Obama wins another term, and lets see, we can vote out all those repugs & baggers too.
Pass the popcorn, hey maybe we should make some more its going to be a long night.
Go Feisty, they just can't stand it Obama is doing a good job, can't wait for Nov and Obama wins another term, and lets see, we can vote out all those repugs & baggers too.
Pass the popcorn, hey maybe we should make some more its going to be a long night.
gunbiter, You don't like him because he doesn't spew hate and disinformation like the repug ministry of information? Yeah, he's an idiot who can't get anywhere, do anything. I hope your rock is close at hand and ready to close behind you.
The NBC poll sure is different from the responses on the front page of MSNBC from readers..?
Ya ll need to clean those rose colored glasses...
America is headed down the hill with ODUMO driving the bus...
ooohhhh, what a scandal, a secretary that makes a salary. Downright devious. Quick, call Kenneth Starr.
Nice debt...
• First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner
This is so false (and povably false) that its funny.
Whats of more interest to me is if you actually believe it or are you just being a troll. ?
Sorry libbies like the sky is blue and the grass is green nobody but you extremists are still standing with him.
Close scene.
Rob in ma
What is hilarious is the number of people who believe this President failed because that is what they were told he would do during the 2008 campaign. They, like you, have never bothered to actually do the research on their own.
Had they, or you, done so, they would likely have found:
The plethora of independent economic analysis that shows Obama's policies saved jobs, created jobs and raised the GDP.
Obama taking the GOP to school on foreign policy.
Saving the auto industry in the U.S.
...and many other things.
Study up.
Oh Brother!
Little BB couldn't resist re-posting a chain e-mail that has been repeatedly debunked!
You flunk originality my little pet!
Way to go BB - like WCA you just don't know when to quit do you?
Better to carry on and make a bigger ass out of yourself!
CNN has different numbers, 48% approval and % 51 % desapprove President Obama. CNN is less bias than NBC .This is all part of the reelection campaign
Rob.
Sorry about your delusional reality. Quit trying to preserve it. Come back to sanity.
Well brianb999431 I stand corrected. I was going to ask someone to please tell me one single thing this clown has done for this country since becoming President besides blamming everyone else for his short falls, but it seems he has done qiute alot. Job well done!
Stick with me, Laura - I always have plenty on hand! ;o)
You can NEVER have enough when it comes to this freak show on the right!
Economic optimism? Gas prices are through the roof, grocery prices sky high, no jobs, unemployment still too high, I'm with Brian-this guy has don nothing. Where is all that hope and change? What about the trnaparent government? BO must go!! Please dear Lord please.
And libbies no need to be too sensitive over the failure that is Obama. You can still believe that the way to go is to punish success and build dependence.
Thats just fine. Keep living the dream and pining for what might have been if the great one was just given more time.
Two comments from Obama Diary:
1. So, the President is standing in front of a construction site. This means people are working. And it represents progress and the future.
Contrast that with Romney, who stood in a factory that was shut down during G W Bush’s administration back in 2008, to show the devastating effects of Bush’s recession. Focused on the negative, ignored the progress that’s been made, and the fact that things are looking up.
2. Warren Buffett on GOP claims Obama is playing class warfare: “If this is a war, my side has the nuclear bomb.”
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Today's make up of the GOP is one of negativity, hate, lies & let's not lift a finger to fight for America. Today's Republicans are nasty, miserable people. They are not in the business of the bigger picture for a better America. They are strictly in the business of negativity. And blaming President Obama for their own incompetence. They continually try to drag this country down.
I've been hearing for years that the Republican Party is for the working class. When was this so? For years I have heard nothing but condescension directed at working people by Republicans, particularly since the Reagan years.
Republicans don't care about working wages, health care, education, jobs. And they haven't cared for years. It was always about "me" and screw everyone else. Well, it's not going to fly anymore. It's not sustainable.
President Obama said last night he would work with ANYONE who was in that Chamber last night. ANYONE.
There should be zero tolerance for any legislator who will not do their jobs in these critical times. Just vote them out. Stop blaming President Obama. Blame your own rep. for doing nothing. Those people are poisonous to your future and the country's future.
I love how the delusional Obama lovers like Fiesty seem to have nothing to do in life but hop on any bs shred of made up news to kiss his a**! I suppose they are the ones waiting for Obama dollars (i.e., our dollars). Hey Fiesty, don't get so excited - Obama is done in November! We aren't giving you anymore of our money!!
We are kicking the anti-American, anti-Christ Socialist out.
Good grief! Would you all listen to yourself!!! Bareuka Ovomit listens to his teleprompter very well. He is lieng through his teeth to gain your confidence. How in the world can you believe his crap????? He is an evil, arrogant, pompas being as well as his supporters., and will do and say ANYTHING to discredit his opponents. You need to take a good hard look at him. Disreguard the Democratic/Republican crap, for a minute. Look at the MAN best suited for the Presidential position. This country CANNOT take another 4 years of this evil, evil being and his primate. He doesn' care about our country or YOU!!! Don't be fooled again. If you do, you are to blame for the disaster ahead, if bo has another term.
Tetrapoda-no we don't like him because he is a rotten President. Nothing more.
Rob.
No need to continue the delusion by deflecting to a bunk, and often parroted, projection about wanting to punish success and build dependence.
Seriously. Turn off the crap that is feeding you your misinformation. You just look sillier and sillier...
Lay off the primate shiit will I don't know if you're a true redneck which are few and far between or a lib that likes to bait.
Whatever you're a dope
BrianB, Better copy/paste your post to the FOXnews site... then you might get somebody to read past the first line. Actually I didn't get past BrianB.
But Feisty, here we are... maybe... again. The Democrats were favored and they (we) blew it. Then the Republicans were favored because of the Tea Party anger they harnessed and they got cocky and are blowing it.
Do you think the Democrats can win and HOLD for at least a session or two? I have my doubts, and I'm a Democrat.
The wind at our backs? Watch out for tornadoes.
Rob in ma? Is that an innuendo. ( and I don't mean an Italian suppository )
4 more years!!!
That's weird - most of you Klan members eventually admit to the fact you can't stand having a black man occupying the White House...
Guess you are still on probation... ;o)
Disgusted.
Um...listen to yourself.
Your delusional rant is not based in reality. Quit letting yourself be fed a bunch of crap. Quit allowing yourself to be fooled.
I mean wow.
Here's an interesting article from The Atlantic:
As the losers have less and less positive things to say about their own party, the rancor and lies about Obama gets louder and louder. Look up. There they are... the losers.
Is there even one post here that claims one positive accomplishment by this failed GOP? No. It's all sound bytes from right wing talkies with "feel goods" trying to knock down Obama... been trying for over 3 years now.
You come across as very desperate people.
As the losers have less and less positive things to say about their own party, the rancor and lies about Obama gets louder and louder. Look up. There they are... the losers.
Is there even one post here that claims one positive accomplishment by this failed GOP? No. It's all sound bytes from right wing talkies with "feel goods" trying to knock down Obama... been trying for over 3 years now.
You come across as very desperate people.
As the losers have less and less positive things to say about their own party, the rancor and lies about Obama gets louder and louder. Look up. There they are... the losers.
Is there even one post here that claims one positive accomplishment by this failed GOP? No. It's all sound bytes from right wing talkies with "feel goods" trying to knock down Obama... been trying for over 3 years now.
You come across as very desperate people.
Fiesty Red Head
You make me want to CUM with your comments especially the logo DUMB FUX!!!!!!!
I need you to drain me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fiesty Red Head
You make me want to COME ALL OVER YOU with your comments especially the logo DUMB FUX!!!!!!!
I need you to drain me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for the 3 posts... computer error.
Hey what's ya all make of the fact that Scott Walker's approval rating is 51% and Obama is what 45%?
Looks like Wisconsan's and America has it right!
Hey what's ya all make of the fact that Scott Walker's approval rating is 51% and Obama is what 45%?
Looks like Wisconsan's and America has it right!
BrianB's Gish Gallop is copy/pasted from some blog. See my response to most of his claims here (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Barack_Obama#Worst_president_in_US_history.3F).
@Nifty Fifty
You do realize that gas prices are artificially high because of your sainted oil companies don't you? Right now America's largest export is FUEL OIL!!!!! Yep. Instead of refining it into gasoline they're exporting it and keeping prices high. Do some research before you spew garbage.
As the losers have less and less positive things to say about their own party, the rancor and lies about Obama gets louder and louder. Look up. There they are... the losers.
Marc you can deflect all you want. Results matter. Performance matters. Accountability time my friend.
It would have been nice if this guy followed through on his promise. He did not and it's plain as day.
It really doesn't matter what the republicans have to offer. As long as it is a different destination from the one this failed president has taken us.
Romney/Rubio 2012
Don't worry, according to the Republicans, they will fix all our problems by electing.... Newt Gingrich?
Ya, great idea. Let's elect the guy that was in bed with the lobbyists from the companies that CAUSED THE RECESSION in the first place. What a fantastic f***ing idea. Elect the man who will most likely cause us to go through the crash all over again. God, these republicans are smart.
Or... we can elect Mitt Romney. The billionaire who pays less in taxes than middle class Americans, and STILL thinks we should reduce taxes on the rich. Yes, awesome idea. Let's elect the guy who wants the rich to pay zero taxes, so the middle class can carry the burden of the entire country. F***ing brilliant.
Those are your options. If anyone has questioned whether the Republican party is actively trying to destroy our country, there is your proof.
"hey y what's ya all make of the fact that Scott Walker's approval rating is 51% and Obama is what 45%?"
We's all think that America is split right down the middle just like it has always been.
Here is something for everyone to consider.
The GOP is counting on the election being on the economy. The pundits all seem to believe the election will be about the economy. Most people who are following the primary think the election will be about the economy.
However......ask yourselves this one question. What did everyone think the election would be about in January of 2008?
Things can change fast in politics.
We got screeminglib (ROFL) who doesn't know Obama is Barry Sorrento and his relationship with Occidental College... dumb lib
tout-suite
These NBC polls are priceless.
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You are right. It's the Faux Noise polls that are a dime a dozen.
Ana,
Rob and Brian are typical cons. They aren't overly bright. I have a friend from outside New Orleans that fits in the same category. She is a birther, still believes Obama is neither an American nor patriotic. Claims he was elected by racism because 97% of the blacks voted for him. Guess she forgot ALL white Presidents were also elected by racism as 100% of the whites voted for them.
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Rob in ma-3189632
Hey what's ya all make of the fact that Scott Walker's approval rating is 51% and Obama is what 45%?
Dang it Rob, I was wondering where all the right wing extremists from South Carolina moved to. Dodgeville, WI. How funny.
Bob (#1.15),
In conjunction with those approval ratings for Obama, would you also care to post the approval ratings over those time periods for Congress, and for the GOP, it would help to keep things in perspective if you did........ but of course, you won't, and everyone knows why you won't.
Rob in MA, all of your empty-headed rants can be summed up in two words--bull sh*t.
Feisty:
Home run? I must have been at a different ballgame, it looked like a strike out (or cop out) from my where I was sitting! Blah,,,,,,,,,,,,, blah............, blah blah blah.
@Brianb-999431: all that other stuff aside, I would love to know how Obama violated the War Powers Act.
bigbenalaska
Who's "The Food Stamp President"..??
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...........Good God, that's the third time, who's the stutterer?
Obama, is a speaker, not a leader. He needs to get engaged in Washington, stay there and work. Problem is simply, he doesn't have what it takes. He uses words to turn wrongs into blame, smiles to hide incompetence. And trip and vacations to avoid facing reality. Bailing out wall street didn't fix anything, it avoided the inevitable. The GM bailout forgave the lousy quality of their engineers, and the greed of their workers. And their success story came at a great cost to their former employees.
Smoke and Mirrors
Time to say Goodbye
Same rehashed promises for the 3rd time. God to some, devil to others. Never stops campaigning at the expense of taxpayers.
Lucky for Obama, he is loved by most of the media, regardless of his incompetence.
I'd give you everything I've got, for a little peace of mind.
"Rob in ma".....is that like an Oedipus complex?
Really, Fisty? Reading your demented, snarky posts leaves me wondering what kind of childhood you must have had to turn you into the hateful, brainwashed sack of neuroses you have become. If anything I have to feel sorry for you. Your life is obviously one of misery and discontent. As Edward Albee said, most people lead lives of quiet desperation. Well, in your case, not so quiet.
NIFTY, the teapups just don't want to face the facts, the economy is improving. The t.p's point to the unemployment numbers but will not admit the job loss before the OBAMA admin took office averaged 750,000-800.000 per month stretching back in to AUGUST of 2008.The T.P's. also will over look the loss of over 7000 points on the Stock Market ,"it cost me over half of my holdings"but now has come back to break even.Now getting to the outrage over higher oil prices if the T.P's. want to be honest they should look at the party that controls the H.o.R.for their lack of over site and complete inability to bite the hand that feeds their campaign coffers.If the T.P.'s want a memory refresher under DEMOCRATIC control the OIL C.E.O's were brought before congress to explain the 4.00-6.00 GAS PRICES,SOME FEIGNED IGNORANCE WHILE OTHERS blamed SPECULATION in the MARKETS, either way the REPUBLICANS screamed outrage over this.THE OIL prices started a steady decline for the next year or so and then along comes the B.P. disaster and the 2010 elections,so to some up, the PRESIDENT has done a GOD JOB and would benefit from a LOYAL opposition not a PARTY of OBSTRUCTIONIST.
papag - It was a violation to attack Libya given the length of time we continued attacking the country with our weaponry. Obama did not go to Congress and let them approve the action after 7 days of air strikes. There is no provision in the War Powers act that states we must have US troops on the ground, it is engagement only. After 30 days of strikes, according to the WPA, the president must have congressional approval. Obama said it was a UN mission... what Obama did was a violation of the war powers act. If Newt faces off Obama, you can be assured it will be completely spelled out. Not so much with Romney.
Fiesty Redhead I had a lot of relatives that were of the Klan persuasion. They were all Dems like Sen. Byrd. They were as liberal as hell and deserved to be Democrats just like you. Yes they roll over in their graves because of Obama. I am not Klan nor Democrat. But I also don't support Obama because of what he is doing for himself and not for the country.
Obama Must Go.
Rob, why are you asking such obvious question? It means that there are plenty of sheeps and idiots out there.... Secondly, WI is still the beer capital of USA, and finally it proves that Money buys speech.
Brianb? where is your finger wagging when Bush Jr. went down on Afgan and Iraq? What a hyprocrite! Again.... why am I not suprised at your repeated to pin all issues on Obama?
I see a lot of complaints from the Right about rising gas prices. So, why do your Republican heroes work so hard to protect the greedy speculators who are manipulating the market to force up the price? Why won't they back reasonable regulation to keep the new Robber Barons from robbing the American middle class?
No matter, the Dittoheads can say what they will. 91% of those who watched the SOTU approved of the message, up from 83% last year. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029581-503544.html
It didn't take this posting to reach 9 pages long,
I'm just a rubber raft floating in a vast sea of nothing,
and I like it better.
Fiesty said;
Now, I know you're from Odumbo's state and maybe you are one of his sidekick community do nothing organizer's who want to keep people dependent and in the ghetto - but listen closely. He may look black - but only his sperm donor was black. He was born to a white woman, and raised by her and her white parents. He has led a very privileged life compared to most Americans and schooled with the elite (no doubt on the affirmative action ticket as he is afraid to release his college records). He certainly doesn't know anything about living in the sh**-hole ghettos of Chicago. So . . . I view him as more white than black. He was half and half when he was born - but he was reared by white people. I can see past appearances as appearances can be misleading. But I suppose him calling himself black instead of what he truly is, worked out in his favor - pathetic!
The man is pathetically inept, is in way over his head and is the most anti-American President in our history. But again Fiesty, he's done come November. So get a job! The checks are gonna run dry!!
John B, DesMoines, IA said;
So why do you Democrats work so hard at keeping our country dependent on the middle-east? Oh that's right, we have an anti-American President who unlike the rest of us, doesn't have to worry about little things like gas prices - because he is a 1%'er.
Maybe, because the herd's been thinned and only the delusional Democrats, Progressive, Bleeding Heart Liberal Socialists (and some Republicans that wanted a good laugh) actual watched the speech. He lost 20 MILLION viewers from last year's 50 million viewers. So 91% of the delusional is not all that impressive!
Don McQuistion,
Will you quit with the excessive vacationing garbage? Nobody took more vacations away from the White House than your illustrious leader, George W! He was NEVER there. And besides that, the most powerful person in the world is "entitled" to a damned vacation... even more than one per year if he needs one. I cannot imagine living in a place that never sleeps like the White House with all the stress and pressure that comes with that job! And besides, a vacation is NOT a vacation like you and I take... he has his secret service, his advisors, everyone with him. I doubt there is a single 24 hours of peace in that job. Give it a rest already!!!
As an American, I just can't believe that so many "other" Americans want Pres Obama to fail! We are all aboard the same vessel. If this ship sinks, we ALL drown.
LMarc...
My only comment here is that since the Republicans took over the House in January, 2011...the current president has not stopped whining that he cannot get any of plans or ideas passed because of those evil, rascally Republicans whom the President has labeled as "Do-Nothing" and "Obstructionist". And his constant bleating to the public was just fine with his supprters.
And now that there is a whiff of decent news regarding employment and the economy....well time to heap every bit of credit on the president...and the president alone...naturally.
But what has he actually done in the past 12 months...besides make campaign speeches, go to fundraisers, complain about Republicans, and continually tell everyone how evil and rotten the nation's wealthiest and most successful Americans are because they are not paying that never defined "fair share".
Maybe the actual reason the economy is healing a little bit is because meddlers like the president and the geniuses in the legislature haven't been able to stick their faces into the nation's business as much as they would have liked.
Do you give no credit to men and women in the business world??? Why not...they are the folks on the front lines who have taken a bad economy's shots to the bow and reacted...and altered the way to run their businesses to try to become more profitable. I've seen this in the business I work in. We took the punch in the gut and reacted...downsized for a while, changed some patterns, looked at new marketing, and been able to see some growth.
Do you really think that any little positive sign you see or story you hear is because of something your 'government' did ??? I hope not, because at that point, we've all become nothing more than lemmings in a bucket.
Put some thought into the fact that more often than not, our economy can get a bump because of things 'government' did NOT do. Your President Obama keeps saying he's not able to get anything done because of those darned "obstructionist Republicans"...and you now wish to heap praise on him for not being able to get the things he wanted done to get done. Go figure !
Wasn't there an old saying that "The government that governs least, governs best"....Jefferson, Franklin...I forget. But maybe whichever old timer said it...deserves some credit too.
Apparently you missed the news that American oil production has been increasing for the last several years and is now at the highest level it's been in years.
That reminds me, btw, why are Conservatives desperately against ANYTHING involving energy conservation or alternative energy? For a long time it made me very confused that Conservatives loath "conservation", a great means of allowing individuals the freedom to choose to spend their money elsewhere.
Then I realized that much of the Conservative Movement is bought and paid for by oil barons including the Koch brothers...then it makes perfect sense. Conservatism isn't about consistency of thought or principle, it's a series of independent messages designed to sell policies beneficial to the wealthy elites.
WOW! Economic improvement attributable to Obama... I wonder if they asked this question in the poll:
What exactly has president Obama done to increase your optimism. Be specific.
But they can't ask that type of question, can they? I'll bet the normal guy on the street can't figure out why their optimism has increased. I can... and it's very simple
They are being bombarded by ABC, CBS, NBC (msnbc), CNN telling them that things are getting better.
How much better is it getting though... reality. Unemployment numbers decreasing - oh yeah? How many are past unemployment or have taken minimum wage jobs in order to eat? The housing market is not rebounding and has barely leveled off, but the caveat is foreclosures... they are still epidemic. How many empty store fronts do you see while driving down the street... especially with newly built buildings. I know in Florida it's extremely sad.
Certain industries that were strongholds of the economy of this country have not come back. Construction is way way down. This effects so many other businesses such as supply... lumber, block, concrete, steel, carpet, drywall, insulation. All it takes is a look see in the want ads to find out how many of these types of businesses are hiring.
You hear minimum news on any negatives these days. The bought and paid for main stream media is not telling the whole truth... and people are buying it because Brian Williams is telling them things are improving. It's an election year people... and Obama is foaming at the mouth to get re-elected
Obama is foaming at the mouth to get re-elected
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What, is he supposed to be ambivalent? I'm sure he wants to be re-elected as much as Mitt and Newt want their shot. And when has the media (bought and paid for by the corporatocracy) ever told the whole truth about anything? They tell us when we're supposed to be positive and when we're supposed to be negative, and sure, most folks buy in because they're too busy tryin' to feed and clothe their families to pay much attention to anything else. The big question is, do you really think things will change for the better just because some guy with an "R" after his name gets elected? If so, you're more optomistic than me.
I notice not too many takers Brian... and that alone speaks volumes.
Your right, the media is a corporate mouthpiece (FOX for Repugs and NBC for Dems) for both parties. That aside, I see, read and UNDERSTAND that it took nearly two DECADES to get out of the last great depression after the 1929 collapse. Repugs (and some Dems) think we can take a 10 year spend party of GW and the 2008 crash as a result and dig out of it in 2-3 years! Don't think so. Grow up. Also, Repugs got NO ANSWERS except do the very same asinine thing that got us into this mess: cut taxes for the rich and deregulate! Pathetic. Of course, this country was stupid enough to elect GW twice, so I would not be surprised if we get another rich assw*pe as our President. I have NOT been pleased, at all, with Obama. He has nearly retracted every promise made about single payer health insurance, pulling the plug on wars, defense treasury, torture and detention, etc. Then he put two repug financial stooges around him in Geitner and Summers, the same guys who helped run us into the ditch, and I knew we were in for a long slug-fest. Seems it does not matter all that much which party is in power.....the average Joe is going down in flames just the same.
Your right, the media is a corporate mouthpiece (FOX for Repugs and NBC for Dems) for both parties. That aside, I see, read and UNDERSTAND that it took nearly two DECADES to get out of the last great depression after the 1929 collapse. Repugs (and some Dems) think we can take a 10 year spend party of GW and the 2008 crash as a result and dig out of it in 2-3 years! Don't think so. Grow up. Also, Repugs got NO ANSWERS except do the very same asinine thing that got us into this mess: cut taxes for the rich and deregulate! Pathetic. Of course, this country was stupid enough to elect GW twice, so I would not be surprised if we get another rich assw*pe as our President. I have NOT been pleased, at all, with Obama. He has nearly retracted every promise made about single payer health insurance, pulling the plug on wars, defense treasury, torture and detention, etc. Then he put two repug financial stooges around him in Geitner and Summers, the same guys who helped run us into the ditch, and I knew we were in for a long slug-fest. Seems it does not matter all that much which party is in power.....the average Joe is going down in flames just the same.
BrianB.
I can. And, if you had looked rather then blindly buy into the crap right wing media keeps feeding you, you would know to. You would then not have to deny reality by parroting wingnut conspiracies about the media.
Obama has done many things that have helped the economy, and the independent economic analysis shows this to be true. The economy showing more improvement is what is making people optimistic. It is also making the deluded on the right go on doom and gloom tangents in desperate efforts to preserve the delusional reality they were fed.
Look at the employment numbers. Net employment numbers in 2008 = -3.6 million. Net employment numbers in 2009 = -5 million. Net employment numbers in 2010 = +940,000. Net employment numbers in 2011 = +1.64 million. Yes. Things are improving.
Seriously, drop your spoon fed delusion, do you own research, think the issues through on your own, and come to your own conclusions.
You will then not be left foaming at the mouth, desperate to preserve what you were fed, and so willingly bought.
IJS.
Your right, the media is a corporate mouthpiece (FOX for Repugs and NBC for Dems) for both parties. That aside, I see, read and UNDERSTAND that it took nearly two DECADES to get out of the last great depression after the 1929 collapse. Repugs (and some Dems) think we can take a 10 year spend party of GW and the 2008 crash as a result and dig out of it in 2-3 years! Don't think so. Grow up. Also, Repugs got NO ANSWERS except do the very same asinine thing that got us into this mess: cut taxes for the rich and deregulate! Pathetic. Of course, this country was stupid enough to elect GW twice, so I would not be surprised if we get another rich assw*pe as our President. I have NOT been pleased, at all, with Obama. He has nearly retracted every promise made about single payer health insurance, pulling the plug on wars, defense treasury, torture and detention, etc. Then he put two repug financial stooges around him in Geitner and Summers, the same guys who helped run us into the ditch, and I knew we were in for a long slug-fest. Seems it does not matter all that much which party is in power.....the average Joe is going down in flames just the same.
Delusional you are, brianb.
Here in MN unemployment is 5.7%
We are in the first year of a three year project of bringing light rail between downtown St. Paul to downtown MPLS. It is providing 3600 contruction jobs. It will also revitilze University Ave that had seen its better days decades ago.
State revenues are projecting a small surplus. Just maybe the state can pay back the money owned to school districts that was defered to balance our state budget.
Our state GOP party is heavily in debt and scrambling to find new faces for their leadership after the Senate leader resigned due to a improper relationship with a staffer.
And best yet, winter has yet to arrive in any forceful way... And the MN caucus are next month.
Here in MN unemployment is 5.7%
We are in the first year of a three year project of bringing light rail between downtown St. Paul to downtown MPLS. It is providing 3600 contruction jobs. It will also revitilze University Ave that had seen its better days decades ago.
State revenues are projecting a small surplus. Just maybe the state can pay back the money owned to school districts that was defered to balance our state budget.
Our state GOP party is heavily in debt and scrambling to find new faces for their leadership after the Senate leader resigned due to a improper relationship with a staffer.
And best yet, winter has yet to arrive in any forceful way... And the MN caucus are next month.
Republicants - you did NOT answer the question. You stated he's done lots of things... good for you. If you would have continued reading my question I said, "be specific." You rambled on about your ideology this and your thinking that, but even you can't be specific. There is NO one thing Obama has done to deserve the praise for helping our economy. Take your "right wing" and "left wing" crap and stuff it. My question had nothing to do with any wings.
This is the way it is with the president and the left. They continue to praise him and adore him for doing nothing. What did he win a Nobel Peace Prize for? What exactly did he DO? Nothing.
Even the left can't list out or describe what this president does to earn their praise.... what a bunch of knuckleheads.
Republicants - you did NOT answer the question. You stated he's done lots of things... good for you. If you would have continued reading my question I said, "be specific." You rambled on about your ideology this and your thinking that, but even you can't be specific. There is NO one thing Obama has done to deserve the praise for helping our economy. Take your "right wing" and "left wing" crap and stuff it. My question had nothing to do with any wings.
This is the way it is with the president and the left. They continue to praise him and adore him for doing nothing. What did he win a Nobel Peace Prize for? What exactly did he DO? Nothing.
Even the left can't list out or describe what this president does to earn their praise.... what a bunch of knuckleheads.
Citizen, your observations are correct except we most definitely did not elect Bush twice. He stole the election twice , once in Florida and once in Ohio. And then , of course, there was the political ruling from the Supreme (LOL) Court.
Here in California unemployment is 11.1%. The GOP has been neuter, and Jerry Brown our governor is still looking to increase our taxes again.
Northstar... only one question for you... how much federal money has your state taken up to pay for such conveniences? So what if the GOP is having problems in your state... do you think that actually means anything? I can list several states where the democrats are scrambling to cover their behinds... and does that have any bearing on anything? Not in the least. Not nationally. You should thank me for helping to support your local economy. It's my tax dollars that are being used to pay the local salaries.
Brianb.
LOL!!! Specifically, the independent economic analysis that I mentioned shows the stimulus helped the economy. That's one.
Here is another one. The auto bailout saved hundreds of thousands of jobs, and saved the auto industry in the U.S.
Take you projection based delusion and stuff it. It is about time you came back to reality, and stopped believing all of that crap you were fed during the 2008 campaign, and never let go.
Knucklehead indeed.
Brainb,
Thanks for the federal dollars for our light rail. It also includes state money and a metro tax to fund it. Light rail is an convenience only? It is mass transportation that works. I am glad we are finally getting it, It is our second line.
Love riding it in Boston, DC, Atlanta..
Brian, state politics do count. Ask WI , Ohio etc. Next, November because of redistricting, every legislator in every state will be up for relection.
You live in Florida, whats going on in your state besides the primary?
Brainb,
Thanks for the federal dollars for our light rail. It also includes state money and a metro tax to fund it. Light rail is an convenience only? It is mass transportation that works. I am glad we are finally getting it, It is our second line.
Love riding it in Boston, DC, Atlanta..
Brian, state politics do count. Ask WI , Ohio etc. Next, November because of redistricting, every legislator in every state will be up for relection.
You live in Florida, whats going on in your state besides the primary?
Posting problem - maybe solar storm??
BrianB
If you want to get wowed by light rail go to Denver. Their light rail cars are packed every single day. It's become the preferred mode of transportation for people that work in downtown Denver. You lose...AGAIN!
phancy - good probability. Lots of bubblegum tonight.
Northstar. I was being facetious about state government not meaning much. It always means something to the people living there. Glad you are getting the metro... It is a good thing for those close to the lines. I grew up in Buffalo... they put a metro in AFTER I left... LOL. Would have been good for the commute to school every day. Florida... 10% unemployment... I have to work out of state in order to keep my home there. I get a conjugal visit about once a month. Last time was Christmas. I spent New Years in Alabama.
Republicants... keep believing the stimulus helped. How about trying to pay it back... did it help? Obama's unfunded stimulus... a great idea... NOT! Obama's unfunded auto bailout.... again... who's going to pay for it? Seems to me GM still owes a huge chunk of money that may never be paid back... Oh... and who originated those ideas? Think TARP. Knucklehead indeed.
Sounds like Obama has HOPE for CHANGE again. He's also campaigning on the exact same thing he did in 2008, but failed to deliver.
And not only does he have the benefit of the optimist, this so-called "HeadLine" shows just how much he has the benefit of the Lame Stream Media Lap-Dog.
That President Obama is intelligent, calm, and clearly a nice guy, is suffficient to make one optimistic -- unless, of course, one is a terminally hatefil Republican who has no idea what an actual idea is
(Newt's slogans are not ideas), let alone how to distinguish between the false propaganda they are told to believe, which order they obey, and reality.
In short, unlike, as example, the destrucctive and hateful G. DUI Bu@!$%#, President Obbama isn't an @!$%#, therefore isn't a Republican.
What has he done? Are you kidding me, what has he done?
Well, I no longer have to worry about paying my mortgage, nor putting gas in my tank. Only because my house was foreclosed, and I had to sell my car to buy food.
Wow- ALMOST HALF of the American public approves of the job President Obama is doing!!
Only a Democrat could view that as a beautiful thing...
They've already forgotten the mid-term elections of 2010...but not for long.
Despite the clear and resounding message that was sent by the voting public, it "wasn't a referendum" on our Campaigner in Chief. Well, guess what...you're not going to be able to say that about the next one...
That would be ALMOST DOUBLE the late-term approval of his predecessor, what's-his-name. It's also over 3 times the approval rate of Congress.
Here in Iowa the unemployment rate is down to 5.8% and I'm having a rough time hiring skilled workers.
One of the best things Obama has done is his handling of international affairs. When Somali pirates took hostages from the Mirsk(sp) Alabama, he sent in Sea Bees and ended it. Very decisive. Let the world know that we were not to be messed with anymore. Same thing for the Somali hostage yesterday. Send in the SeaBees. Done. 8 years after the 9/11, he got Osama. He has taken many Al Quida leaders, too. Iraq, Americas biggest mistake, is over.
Gobama 2012!!
Well stated, Brianb. Too many deluded fools believing this bailout maniac of a "leader" is actually working FOR the people.
111...
Do you actually think our troubles in the Middle East are "over" ???
Start checking in on the "World News" sites...the Middle East is a tinderbox sitting on top of a furnace these days.
Not a good day for the right! An economy that is getting stronger, a strong presidential speech, and another successful military mission in Somalia!
Amen Laura!
Thanks for adding the Somalia mission!
If you think this has anything to do with the actual economy you need you head examined, this is media election politics in a nutshell.
History, especially election politics history ALWAYS repeats itself.... The Media's golden boy is running for re-election the economy HAS to get better and they HAVE to have polls showing that.
If this came out a month from now it might have some significance, right after his belated campaign opening speech, pure politics...
As far as seal Team 6, GOOD Job! Sending them in now, after having the intelligence for a week, pure politics...
To Laura 417908,
The graphs displayed @ the side of the 2012 State of the Union Address do not lie.
So let's see how the 2 Wanna-Be Clowns ( Romney and Gingrich ) are going to spin this one out.
My favorite one was the amount of regulation signed by Bush VS Obama.
Yep, bad day for the obstructionist party of No.
To Laura 417908,
The graphs displayed @ the side of the 2012 State of the Union Address do not lie.
So let's see how the 2 Wanna-Be Clowns ( Romney and Gingrich ) are going to spin this one out.
My favorite one was the amount of regulation signed by Bush VS Obama.
Yep, bad day for the obstructionist party of No.
To Laura 417908,
The graphs displayed @ the side of the 2012 State of the Union Address do not lie.
So let's see how the 2 Wanna-Be Clowns ( Romney and Gingrich ) are going to spin this one out.
My favorite comment was the amount of regulation signed by Bush VS Obama.
Yep, bad day for the obstructionist party of No.
To Laura 417908,
The graphs displayed @ the side of the 2012 State of the Union Address do not lie.
So let's see how the 2 Wanna-Be Clowns ( Romney and Gingrich ) are going to spin this one out.
My favorite comment was the amount of regulation signed by Bush VS Obama.
Yep, bad day for the obstructionist party of No.
To Laura 417908,
The graphs displayed @ the side of the 2012 State of the Union Address do not lie.
So let's see how the 2 Wanna-Be Clowns ( Romney and Gingrich ) are going to spin this one out.
My favorite clip was the amount of regulation signed by Bush VS Obama.
I guess Boehner had no option but to clap every once in a while while stone faced.
Yep, bad day for the obstructionist party of No.
joe reyna: Why so many posts?
15 million less people watched last night's speech than did two years ago. What does that tell you? People are sick of this man TALKING and not delivering. Did you happen to see the montage comprised of pieces of each of his three SOTU speeches? Same words, same promises. It was hysterical.
1.20.2013 the end of an error
I guess the Repuglicans and Tea Baggers are going to have to work harder to sink the economy before 2012.
Actually is Obama who is sinking the economy, making more regulations and increasing the debt is making for us much harder. We want a change Obama is taking us to the wrong direction. Our unemployment rate is higher thanmost countries in Europe. Price of oil for the poor is costing more, food for the poor , transportation for the poor, everything is going up. Tell me what is his policy, other than take from Peter to give it to Paul, to bring prices down and help the poor, the same people he said is protecting is punishing with his policies.
Dear Florida Independents and Republicans,
I am appealing to your sense of intelligence, dignity and duty to country. You “definitely” have an option this year; on one hand you have a President who is doing his best to turn this country around after eight years of a failed Republican Policy and on the other hand you have Republicans and Tea Party members trying to turn back clock - to the point where we see deregulation and support of big business destroy our country.
Republicans have argued against needed billions in unemployment because they thought it was good fiscal policy not to spend money. Yet Republicans were for an extension in tax cuts which would have cost trillions over a decade. That supports the theory that Republicans will simply watch the rich get richer while the middle class is decimated and the poor are driven into the ground. (1)
Let me ask you this one important question...what if you were unemployed and had been for several months. How do you feel about the fact that your Republican Party wanted to pull the rug out from under you by taking away your Unemployment Benefits - the very benefits that you pay in to? Is that a clear enough indicator for you that your party understands and supports the American Middle Class? And if this scenario doesn’t apply to you, what if it applies to one of your kids and/or their family or your mother or aunt or uncle? How do you vote Republican this year with a clear conscience?
Since the 90’s, Republican policies removed banking regulations to the point that we were nickel and dimed out of the very money we've tried so hard to earn and protect. Is this really what you back in office? We’re already struggling to get our economy back up on its feet and now because of GOP talking points and fear mongering, you’re willing to remove this President from office!
Republican Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin wants to privatize your Social Security? In fact, your
Republican Party, advocates the privatization of the very money that you give into Social Security - leaving it up to the markets to determine your retirement fate. IT’S YOUR SAFETY NET AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SHOULDN’T TOUCH IT! I can imagine a time, after you let Republicans privatize our Social Security, when China decides to cash in and voilà – our Social Security is now owned by the Chinese Government! (1)
Republicans advocate the removal of regulations concerning manufacturing processes that pollute our drinking water and make our lands uninhabitable; the removal of regulations that protected consumers physically and in their wallets and the removal of any regulation that would stop big business from preying on the weak and under-informed!
There are two sides of the Republican coin - the "compassionate Christian neo-conservative" belief system and the dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, eat your children mentality. Yes...if I were you I would be confused as well - because it is very clear to me that your Party has lost its identity. In fact, past Republicans used to believe that the strength of our country was due to the strenght of the individual. It was a party that was at the forefront of civil rights, strong economy and markets, strong national defense, and equality for all. In fact it was on the 12th of January in 1866, when Republican Rep. John Bingham of Ohio proposed the 14th Amendment! So it's clear to me and everyone on the other side of the isle that your brand of politics is very unappealing and is no longer in line with main stream America.
So today, I plead with you - send a message to your party that the Republican brand of politics is out of touch with main stream America - just as are the Republican candidates out of touch with dinner table politics. Do the right thing and vote for Obama....because if there is one thing we can all agree on...Obama is better than any current Republican alternative!
Well, if the public has growing economic optimism they are in for a bad surprise.
As far as The Sociopath in Chief's big speech to the assembled corporate stooges in Congress last night (Democrat and Republican), despite a con man's gloss of progressive feel good sentiment here and there it was mostly very Right wing and not much different than what a Republican would propose.
His remedy for the economy: Slash health, safety and environmental regulation coupled with corporate welfare and giveaways in the form of "Tax incentives" to businesses, even saying the public should help companies build factories for corporations to entice them to leave a few jobs here in the U.S.
Hey I have an Idea!
Instead of trying to bribe corporations with tax breaks (which makes the deficit worses) how about telling them if they don't bring jobs back to the U.S. we will tax the @!$%# out of them, revoke their corporate charter or nationalize them and bring the jobs back ourselves?
That's what they would have done back in the 1960's when unemployment was 4%, incomes were rising for just about everyone and the tax rate on corporations and rich people was wayyyy higher than today.
I hope the economy is getting better for others, I know it isn't for somebody that works 90-120 hours every 2 weeks. The price of everyday costs keeps going up and hitting me and my fiancee (getting married in May 2012) harder everyday, but we stay responsible and spend way less than we earn. Neither of us have a child. We have decided not to have a child until we have our unnecessary bills paid for. I think it's sad for people like us who are very responsible with a modest wage have to pay for people in our state who are irresponsible with no wage. However, there is no animosity towards these people, because I know our government has made this possible. There is the State of the Union.
Of course there is growing optimism...the possibility that the current president is on the way out makes everyone feel as if Spring is in the air...makes me feel like doing a dance myself!
Great story bro! Too bad there's no evidence that any of it's actually true...quite the opposite in fact.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-08/business/ct-biz-0908-bf-small-biz-20110908_1_small-businesses-regulations-health-care
What economy....?
Banks that nickle and dime you worse than my Grandmother could imagine
40 and 50 thousand just to enter college just to suck you dry,
Inflation at a all time high,
State property Tax increases while your home holds no value,
No real jobs to speak of other than part time with nothing to offer,
I'm finished talking about our corrupt Health and Drug fiasco..
Dow Jones closes at 8-month high... things are just "horrible" under Obama!!! NOT!
Double Jeopardy - You're brainwashed. You want to speak to the intelligence, dignity and duty of Americans? America isn't some misguided idea that shifts over to make room for the newest Obama socialist doctrine. It isn't a socialist government that takes from the rich to give to the poor. It is, at its best, a country that understands it has to stop a government that is taxing the life out of all the people. It is a country that understands it has to embrace its Constitution and its Bill of Rights. It understands it needs to stop pandering to groups as it diminishes individuals. That it has to deal with having become a nanny state of unsustainable entitlements. That it has to return to allowing its people to keep the vast majority of their own money. That it must value the framework of individual values and get out from under the oppression of an over-reaching government that's bleeding Obama debt. This president for many is the force that feeds socialism under a guise of equality instead of its true nature of equity that strips Americans of their liberty and degrades their individualism. Obama is a socialist. He is not a capitalist and he endeavors to undermine our capitalism where individuals work for what they want and receive compensation in line with their aspirations, abilities and the opportunities they can create. For all your pleading and bleating, your indoctrination is sure. Your evidence for why Obama should remain in office is misguided, repugnant and dangerous. You believe your few can define a part of American citizenry by the narcissistic standards they set and demean all others as pious, uneducated and confused. For all your sanctimonious blathering of knowing what a country of free American individuals is or should be, you are acting as nothing more than a cheap frontman for your carnival huckster. You define arrogance in deciding for a free people who they must elect. You discount a free people by suggesting you know who they are. You can't manipulate a free people into swallowing the dictates of your disingenuous socialist savior by imploring if they only knew how worthless they were they would run and embrace his dogma. Ron Paul 2012!
descrs - Todays markets are global in nature, not political. Todays markets are also based on whatever clarity the investors see. However market fluctuations can be attributed to temporary exogenous events
To alim-2810059 - well it seems to me that your bearing is a little off. You say, and I'll paraphrase your name calling of Obama, "the Socialist in Chief," has done nothing but harm this country. Yet the facts disagree with you. Obama has put us in a better position than we've been in for some time. Unemployment is going down, new home remortgaging deal, "retooled and profit posting" auto industry and oh yes....many of today's successful million and billionaire agreeing that they are under taxed. The list of achievements goes on and on.
And what has the Republican Party done - oh yeah that's it - they've forgotten about you. They've obstructed progress in such a way that it's obvious to me and a hundred million other Americans that Republican doctrine is hell bent on destroying the very fabric that makes our country so great - our sense of humanity.
I think there should be a poll to see if people are sick of polls from a hundred different sources that come out a hundred times a day.
You crack me up phancy.... always asking the philosophical questions... gotta love you!
Deep thoughts and philosophy.
Of course she told us earlier she was gunning for some cocktails.
I believe the kids refer to it as 'drunk blogging.'
BB
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You know I am right. :)
Seriously, sure, run a poll about the GOP field in Florida - it is their primary. But polls about the general? Get real. And this approval bs? That's what it is bs. It changes as often as the wind changes direction. Waste of time.
Spanky,
You are an, no I won't say it. One, I never get on here drinking (unlike some). And if being a jerk towards me is what gets your rocks off - well, go for it. I just don't give a rat's pootie about you or what you think.
Phine,
Now that the President has "Officially" started his campaign, we are going to be getting a lot of these worthless polls showing exactly what the pundits in the media want to highlight, the official political liars season has just opened also, that goes for BOTH sides.
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Ya know Spanky, a Tequila Sunrise sounds pretty good to me about now. Either that or a Fuzzy Navel...
Third try is hopefully the charm. (Wonky computer)
Trying to say, that if the media doesn't have a real story, they have to create one. I am now going to try and post this sucker again. Fingers crossed.
Third try is hopefully the charm. (Wonky computer)
Trying to say, that if the media doesn't have a real story, they have to create one. I am now going to try and post this sucker again. Fingers crossed.
Okay, what is going on here? As I carefully hit the post comment button.
Somebody at Newsvine needs to give the gerbils a shot of caffeine or something. Whoa!
the computers are really acting screwy right now, I'm sure FR servers are have a hard time keeping up...
phinephancy...I had trouble too...multiple posted me above......didn't mean to....and others I see..
One little tiny complaint about the polls and the media, and I broke the whole thing! LOL
you think they will try another worthless poll? ;-0)
Probably...
The Cuba thread seems to be working quite nicely. See, my complaining about too many polls was the problems :)
You aren't the only one Phine, we are getting triplicated.
this thread is getting bombarded and the server is having trouble keeping up...
one minute there was one page, two minutes three pages...
I wish I could do that with money......x3....x4....thing....
Go to Cuba thread - it works better! The thread before this one.
Wow all this double and triple posting. I hope this gets fixed pretty quickly.
Wow all this double and triple posting. I hope this gets fixed pretty quickly.Then I got a notice that my post could not be posted.
@phine Shame on you for your post. Just the other day you were commenting how you wouldn't let your grandchildren read the language from the conservatives. I can't wait until they go to school and tell someone they are going to b@%#!* slap them and they learned it from grandma their role model.
LOL you people crack me up with your skewed logic.
ksw,
I just had paid my tax bill. God himself would forgive me.
LOL I love how you try to make excuses for your behavior but crucify anyone else for the smallest slight or difference of opinion. Man up or in your case woman up and take responsibility for your flip flopping...
So what if President Obama is in campaign mode right now as he should be. The repubs are also in campaign mode and no one is complaining. Please keep CAMPAIGNING PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has nothing to do with what our president has said or done that has created optimism, it's that he is on his way out and that thought is making the world a better place.
The right-wing has been spreading economic doom and gloom for three years, hoping to slow the economic recovery by impacting consumer confidence. Maybe they should have been helping the recovery instead - then they could have shared the credit with Obama.
Too late!
Wasn't that Republican response inspiring though?
Yes. I thought Mitch Daniels was spot on.
Mitch spot on? Hardly. The architect of the abysmal Bush economy where (2) billion-dollar-a-week wars were absent from the budget while revenues were hamstrung by costly tax-cuts as a budget surplus was pissed away and an historic cratering of the economy resulted. Here in Indiana he privatized the Dept. of Family and Social Services to IBM who screwed it up so badly he eventually had to take it back. He's now being sued for seven figures by them. He lied about his position on Right-to-Work legislation to voters before the election then reversed course in his last term. He's the same spoiled drug dealer snake of a character that he was in college.
If you sucked in the hope and change that you didnt get you will suck in the campaign speech last night. LMAO
thanks house repubs. for the great first year bring back jobs in one year with just the hose were as the dems couldn't do with the house, senate and the pres. the dems on here asked were are the jobs repubs. just 6 months ago well here they are,obama nothing to do with it just a plane fact.
I wish he would be more of a true Democrat. He will be getting my vote again. Newt is a freaking JOKE. Ask his wives....
Your headline is wrong. Obama is benefitting because he is doing everything in his power to improve the conditions in this country. His republicans have done NOTHING not even offer valid suggestions that anyone with a brain could embrace. Every suggestion they have brought has a price tag- usually being borne by the middle class. People are beginning to realize that these republicans are nothing more than racial, political hacks. That may sound harsh but you must agree there is no real reason to despise this president. Dems have always supported the middle class...why all of a sudden are the republicans lead by two of the most obnoxious political hacks, Boehner and Cantor so against EVERYTHING he suggests, even those things they formerly supported. Cut the crap out and face the facts. These people have a hard time accepting a black man as President. Shame on them.
TY TY irene!!! There is no merit to the anti-Obama drivel I have read in this blog. No one checks facts. No one steps back and looks at all this amazingly capable leader has done for this country. Obama has garnered the respect the US deserves the world over. Respect that was totally LOST under 8 years of George Bush. Obama makes it all look so effortless. He is so cool under pressure that we forget how hard he has worked against a Republican Congress that still hasn't regained their balance after a Black man was elected President. Obama doesn't go around spewing "family values". He LIVES them. Republicans can't stand him because they have nothing on him! The guy has lived a good, clean life, is a great Dad, husband, scholar, leader, foreign policy genius. It's hard to beat a guy who is brainy, social, warm, tough and an all around "good guy".
The Republicans call him a "radical" liberal. The "radical" has nothing to do with his actions and everything to do with the color of his skin. RWNJ's resort to name-caling...they just love words like Obama-care...or anything that makes fun of his name becuase they got nuthin! They sound like bullies on a 1st grade playground.
Remember Michelle Bachmann? Leaning out of her TP train, smiling and waving, kissing everyone? Making racist divisionary comments at every chance? No brain, just rhetoric. The public's not stupid, after all;She couldn't even win her HOME county in her HOME state in the Ohio caucus.
The idiot bloggers on here may be noisy...but they're a hostile minority. Most voters know that we need to stay the course. It's as simple as having Barak Obama continue in the Presidency. (my only complaint about his State of the Union address was that increasing off-shore drilling came before alternative energy sources..but that's another topic.) The guy is brilliant in every way. And strong. Let the idiots burn themselves out.....they're m-e-l-t-i-n-g!....
Half black; you know, the side that didn't abandon him? OK.
What the Republicans have done is treason.
It should be considered treason. Obstructing? They purposely TRIED to make the president of the United States fail and in doing so tried to get people (not to fail but) lose their homes, jobs, sense of self-worth.
Think about it
Kudos to you Irene. You hit the nail on the head. The republicans, aka the Party of No, an appropriate handle is just extraordinarily po'd that the majority of thinking Americans elected Barack Obama and handily while the gloom & doom party tried to spin it and spin it down hard that they had the better idea to reduce taxes on the corporate infrastructure and the wealthy so that they would put more money into business to spur jobs growth. In the meantime we ALL read what they have spurred indeed, which is that they are wealthier than at any time in history and the gap widens by the minute. I don't begrudge them the earned money they make, but I do when the playing field is stacked in their favor at the cost of the middle class. At least the majority thank you very much, of the middle class does think about what they have wrought upon all of us. Including the outlandish republican Kool Aid middle class drinkers. I personally think they are to dumb to come in out of the rain into the big tent that is all of us, not just them. They are po'd that the black man is more populist than them and he leads by example of family values, and does not throw dirt on them. Their day is coming when we will again soundly defeat their arrogant self serving and bent self interests. Then we can say wake up! Smell the coffee and come in out of the rain once and for all. Thank you.
Regardless of party afiliation, there are two instances where our actual President had shown
high courage, extreme responsibility and an unusual self-control: as a Commander in Chief by
taking upon Bin Ladin and, yesterday night, freeing a couple of people from the pirates in Soma-
lia. The peculiarity of the latest action was the silence, the witholding of information in front of
an audience were boasting over the success would had been a natural part of his presentation.
Instead President Obama focused on expossing his plans concerning to the wellbeing of the fel-
low Americans in general, not to a particular sector or a few people. It is hard to give into the
charges made against him as a weak Commander in Chief. Well, nothing to compare with other
American Leaders who used lies and forged excuses to start wars, nor with actual Politicians who
publicly refuse to pay their fair share while boasting about their millions and showing no respect.
No wonder the USA has regained the respect of the world. -
Oh yeah...such leadership certainly demands that the high potentate be addressed as Dear Leader.
Maybe Obumbo can explain the rise in unemployment in my county from 9.2% in December to a current 10.4% in January.
tango
Put that top back on that glue! Where the hell do you get your info?
Read this and learn something.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
ask herman cain where the jobs in your county are.....it's the poors fault that they are poor so it must be the unemployed at fault for not having a job right? sarcasm aside, there are jobs available, problem is that there are not enough qualified applicants. My next question is if your county are comprised of republicans....if so it verifies what people have been saying for some time now....the GOP is truly the anti-intellectual party.
@fln...how about you learning to read dufus. I said my "COUNTY".
Weak minds like your's are the fodder of liberal politics and put this clown in the WH.
Seriously, the best you got is making fun of a man's name? Sad.
Hey Chuck - Who's the 'dufus? Question marks are used at the end of interrogative sentences. Punctuation is placed inside ending quotation marks. Yours is possessive w/o the apostrophe. It was the ignorant, uneducated souls such as yourself who put dumbf**k Bush in the Oval Office!!
tango
Gee, what country do you own? You seem to be the only clown here. I see you haven't put that top on yet.
Media strikes again at their darling (PresO) maybe they can give their paychecks to even the playing field to the occupy gang and then challenge the Pres Darling to give his as well. Change starts at the top so lets let the big mouths give since they have the most...:)
When things go good then your answer is "It's the media" making it up. When will you guys ever figure out that most of the media is owned by Republicans. See Fox News/News Corp/Rupert Murdoch. Of course when things go bad, it's all true, and it's all Obama's fault. Have some integrity.
Media strikes again at their darling (PresO) maybe they can give their paychecks to even the playing field to the occupy gang and then challenge the Pres Darling to give his as well. Change starts at the top so lets let the big mouths give since they have the most...:)
Your right, the media is a corporate mouthpiece (FOX for Repugs and NBC for Dems) for both parties. That aside, I see, read and UNDERSTAND that it took nearly two DECADES to get out of the last great depression after the 1929 collapse. Repugs (and some Dems) think we can take a 10 year spend party of GW and the 2008 crash as a result and dig out of it in 2-3 years! Don't think so. Grow up. Also, Repugs got NO ANSWERS except do the very same asinine thing that got us into this mess: cut taxes for the rich and deregulate! Pathetic. Of course, this country was stupid enough to elect GW twice, so I would not be surprised if we get another rich assw*pe as our President. I have NOT been pleased, at all, with Obama. He has nearly retracted every promise made about single payer health insurance, pulling the plug on wars, defense treasury, torture and detention, etc. Then he put two repug financial stooges around him in Geitner and Summers, the same guys who helped run us into the ditch, and I knew we were in for a long slug-fest. Seems it does not matter all that much which party is in power.....the average Joe is going down in flames just the same.
Citizen, "you ain't just whistling Dixie." Too many presidents and politicians in general wiping their feet on The Constitution instead of holding to the Oath they took to defend and uphold it. Same one I took when I was active duty so I took it to heart and learned what the words ment. When Constitutional Republics forget why they fought for Liberty and go so far as to not only erode Civil Liberties but even write laws which threaten to take them away or even "those who stand up against those unjust laws" away. Well, based on historic example I figure Nero is tuning up his fiddle getting ready for a roast. Oh, and personally I think Obama should spend his "super pac" refunding the networks for his 70 minute campaign speech, not that they deserve it but generally a State of the Union should offer some facts not 10 minutes of half truths and 60 of more empty promises. So on that accountability for bad financial choices would mean The President, based on his involvement pushing for their funding, will be picking up the Solenydra tab I suppose, right? That's why I went pack to teepee living 6 months ago. I can make, find, track, and hunt everything I need. Good luck!
I don't know what the economy will do in the next year and I hope things pick up. But the Federal reserve is not optimistic when the claim they feel they need to keep interest rates at zero for the next two years,
This shows me they have little confidence in the economy.
I don't know what the economy will do in the next year and I hope things pick up. But the Federal reserve is not optimistic when the claim they feel they need to keep interest rates at zero for the next two years,
This shows me they have little confidence in the economy.
I don't know what the economy will do in the next year and I hope things do pick up. But the Federal reserve is not optimistic when they claim they feel they need to keep interest rates at near zero for the next two years,
This shows me they have little confidence in the economy.
maybe those people are assuming Obama being voted out of office is what is going to fix the economy....
maybe those people are assuming Obama being voted out of office is what is going to fix the economy....
What a liar Obama was last night. From energy independence to no bail outs, handouts or cop outs. I ran out of fingers counting the lies. It can be said that you know how you could tell he was lying? His lips were moving!
What a liar Obama was last night. From energy independence to no bail outs, handouts or cop outs. I ran out of fingers counting the lies. It can be said that you know how you could tell he was lying? His lips were moving!
Counting on your fingers? I count with my brain. You should try using your brain instead of your fingers.
If you cannot be inspired by last nights SOTU speech , then nothing can EVER inspire you and you may have some mental issues.Its just like folks who go to church and get a very good sermon ,teaching from the preacher and even get prayed for/laid up hands upon but nothing changes them.Yes they just dont take the step of faith and conviction that has made this country great to make a change intheir circumstance.I am very inspired and so is my business and employees.One can ither think positive and act accrodingly or think negative and act accordingly.Just ask the formally homeless Intel science teen scholar, Garvey
Good Lord, David!!!!! You're not talking about bo's speech are you???? That being does not inspire me AT ALL! He scares the hell out of me!!!!
What does being a Christian have anything to do with Obama, his speech, the economy, his approval rating, etc.
Disgusted, ty for proving my point. RWNJ's must resort to name calling & racial slurs. Calling the President of the US "bro" sheds light on where you are coming from. TY for being a shining example of the racism this President has faced. Yet he maintains his dignity and calm resolve to make this a better America.
maybe those people are assuming Obama being voted out of office is what is going to fix the economy....
His being out of our house would be a great start!!
If you cannot be inspired by last nights SOTU speech , then nothing can EVER inspire you and you may have some mental issues.Its just like folks who go to church and get a very good sermon ,teaching from the preacher and even get prayed for/laid up hands upon but nothing changes them.Yes they just dont take the step of faith and conviction that has made this country great to make a change intheir circumstance.I am very inspired and so is my business and employees.One can ither think positive and act accrodingly or think negative and act accordingly.Just ask the formally homeless Intel science teen scholar, Garvey
David....... looks like he inspired you - to be a fool! Wake up and really SEE what he's doing (which to this point has not been much).
...anyone that believes obama is a fool.....you can tell when he's lying because his lips are moving. Remember, if you tell a lie long enough people start believing it to be the truth -
Inspired by the speech? That's what's wrong. Pay attention to what a man does rather than what he says ! ! !
Wow, David,
"I have a Dream...." was an inspiring speech,
"Tear Down This Wall" was an inspiring speech,
"I am a Berliner" was an inspiring speech,
"...before the decade is out, to place a man on the Moon..." was an inspiring speech,
"...December 7th, 1941, a day that will live in infamy!" was an inspiring speech,
"Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth a great nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal" was an inspiring speech,
What was delivered yesterday by the current president just lays there like a half cooked sausage laying limply in a pan of grease....
It wouldn't inspire my dog to go outside to do her business....
@Pat Boston MA and Real Americans First - Unfortunately, your very accurate posts will go over the heads of many folks here. You have stated facts with consistent clarity. None of the name calling and labeling that can be attributed to most folks. The sad fact is that the Republican party, and quite a number of it's followers, are reactionary and negative. They resort to name calling and pulling false statements out of the air to support their rantings. The Tea Party is nothing but the KKK dressed up in business suits (gee, did I just resort to their level?). Who is really qualified to run and has a clear, consise picture of what direction this country is going to proceed in? Look around your neighborhood and highways and see all of the work being done. Working on the nation's infrastructure has added jobs. Many companies positions have been outsourced to other countries way before Barack Obama took office. Think of who you speak with when you have an issue with your credit card company? I guess you want to blame the President for this also? Give me the facts and let me make an informed decision. A decision which will be based on the facts and not on my emotions. When I assessed if I am better off now than I was four years ago, it became pretty obvious who I will most likely vote for in November.
Political fluff and sycophantic rhetoric have never inspired me.
One of the knee-slapper was how we are producing more oil and gas and now exporting it. That is because the production is on private property where the EPA cannot stop it.
DB Akron - Are you nuts. The EPA can stop oil production on private property if it harms the environment. Where do you get this crap... Lights on, no one's home.
maybe those people are assuming Obama being voted out of office is what is going to fix the economy....
Well, we know where assuming will get someone, but many are ready for a "Change" from what this administration has been doing to the country, particularly those whom work hard for what they receive.