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GREENVILLE, SC –- The much anticipated Ham House showdown that started cooking yesterday never came off the back burner today -- Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich did not cross paths at the popular Palmetto State campaign venue.
“Where's Mitt?” Gingrich asked the crowd after Romney left the restaurant. “I thought he was gonna stay and maybe we'd have a little debate this morning. So I'm kind of confused."
Both the Romney and Gingrich campaigns released schedules late Friday night announcing they would be at Tommy’s Country Ham House at 10:45 am today. Neither campaign would back down and cancel the event, but Romney ended up arriving this morning just before 10:00 am -- 45 minutes earlier then planned.
“We see Newt all the time,” a Romney campaign aide said. “We don’t get to see the voters of South Carolina every day.”
The former Massachusetts governor only took one small jab at Gingrich during his brief remarks.
“If we think we need a Washington insider to run Washington, there are a lot of people to choose from. But I’m the only guy whose spent his life in the real world; I’m going to fight to put America back to work,” he said.
Much of the restaurant never heard Romney's message at all. Standing on a chair, Romney shouted towards the back, but didn't use the microphone that had been set up near him.
“They have a microphone, but I didn’t pay for it,” Romney told the crowd as many were yelling that they couldn’t hear him. The sound system was provided by the Gingrich campaign.
While Romney worked the restaurant, volunteers from his campaign -- including more than 70 college students bussed in from Virginia -- circled the restaurant, chanting and generally raising the energy level well beyond that of your standard saturday brunch.
The former speaker arrived a mere 20 minutes after Romney departed, and he addressed the crowd with a microphone flanked by signs for both him and the governor.
"And let me say to our friends who are holding up Romney signs, we're glad you're a part of the American system; we're glad you have the right in this to express yourself in this country' and we hope in the very near future, you'll see the light and pick up a Gingrich sign,” he said said.
Gingrich, who told NBC News the event was “wild,” shook hands for voters just as Romney did. But the two candidates visited opposite sides of the ham house.
One man stood near the kitchen with a hat on that had a piece of paper on the front reading “UNDECIDED.” Gingrich turned to the man and said, “Why don’t you write Newt?”
In turn, the man handed the hat to Gingrich and the Speaker crossed out “UNDECIDED” and wrote “NEWT.”
“Now he is for me,” Gingrich said with a smile to the cameras as he held up the hat. “One vote at a time.”
Romney and Gingrich are running neck-and-neck in many polls in South Carolina, and this event today proved it -– a split between voters and even some family members.
Both Mary Louise Batson and her stepdaughter sat in a booth to listen to the two presidential contenders each supporting a different candidate. Mary held up a Newt 2012 sign, while Joanie displayed a Romney sign. The two were planning on going to vote just after “hamgate” wrapped up.
Polls in South Carolina close at 7:00 pm ET.
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Newt never addressed how he missed getting on the ballot in Virginia. Anybody dare to ask will be John Kinged! lol
EMPTY = EMPTY
= empty.
Dang dab it!
I was so looking forward to a Porky vs. Miss Piggy face-off!
The media was pushing this idea of an unscripted showdown...just as they keep pushing the 'people are angry' soundbite.
Just a short while ago this same language was used.... 'people are angry' is an old cheerleading statement that can have very bad results....maybe even be a call to action for some.
Encourage folks to exercise their voting rights.....without the anger!
Backhouse - you talkin' about Feisty's state's treasury?
How is it that they raise taxes by 2/3, yet are in worse shape?
Say, you all think Feisty is even aware of the outstanding fiscal policies she is on the hook for?
As a dedicated viewer of MSNBC, there are many inconvenient issues which Feisty would be unaware of.
NBC will focus on Mitt's wealth and Gingrich's sex life....
Looking at the fiscal issues of California or Illinois, doesnt help Obama's reelection!
Yeah, been watching MSNBC all day - it's pouring outside and lo and behold Chucky Todd has a two hour show instead of the typical - Love on Cell Block B we usually get on weekends.
And oddly enough, now one single mention of either Illinois' mighty downgrade, or Wisconsin's rise.
Huh. Well I'm sure Big Ed Schultz or maybe Rachel will have something on this, since they are all about Wisconsin these days.
Funny thing is Jerry Brown is trying to raise our taxes, just like Quinn. THink that idiot will clue in and stop now that he sees what Quinn just did?
Naa, me neither. But then again we have lost fully 1/2 of all the over $500k wage earners in the last two years. Man, it sucks when you run out of other people's money, eh Feisty?
Don't sweat my little pet - BOTH states are TRUE BLUE and will continue to stay that way...
Next talking point please?
I love Cali-for-nia...visit there often to see my daughter.....
eat great seafood, visit the wine country, Yosemite Park, even Alcatraz.......but then return to Rick Perrys nonsense......... with no great fresh seafood!
Ummm, Feisty I think you are going to need to define 'talking point.'
Fact - your progressive paradise of a state just got punked by Moodys.
Enjoy.
Hey, I know, since raising taxes 2/3 didn't seem to git err done, maybe you all ought to jack it up some more.
That is the libbie way, correct? Cut spending? NO Way!
But hey - thanks for showing the rest of us exactly what not to do.
Me too Chilled - my daughter lives out there also!
Matter of fact she is up in Napa Valley today with GF's celebrating their Birthday!
Happy Birthday to the ladies!
The outright opulence of Napa Valley is something to behold, and the wine ain't bad.
Man, you just can't read the financial papers these days and not come across more democratic fiscal failure.
Conn. too?
Hold on, let me get this straight - just like in Illinois, the Conn. Gov. raises taxes, in this case the biggest increase in the history of the state, saying it will cure the ill, and yet more Moodys smack down.
What gives gang? Anybody starting to think that this raise taxes thing-y just ain't panning out?
wonder if the big democratic brains in Conn. failed to cut spending like they did in Illinois?
I wonder if, like in Illinois, the higher taxes just didn't seem to generate the revenue increases?
Hmmm. So looks like raising taxes is not the answer. If only there was some other way......
Hey, looky at Wisconsin. Cut them expenses and BAM!
No - the empty emptiness that passes for privilege.
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Hey Spanky, I know how you feel. It went all down hill after Dan Fouts retired. I stopped watching after that.
Dumpsters at thinkprogress, mediamatters and switchboard all empty ... nothing to cut-'n-paste?
Hey Spanky ....
Heard about the union kiddos latest - greatest, really smart idea regarding the Indiana moving to a right to work state legislation?
Mess up the Super Bowl ..... planning electrician slowdowns, truckers clogging up traffic etc.
I think it is a really swell idea, don't you agree?
Go Team Blue! Go Team Blue!
Parrot Head,
zero to the power of anything is just about the same
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Did not see that one bob - that'd be something.
So what up gang, anyone out there care to offer any advice to the great blue states of Illinois and Conn. on their unfortunate fiscal decisions?
How does this play - your blue, you have raised taxes and that's failed.
What now?
Ideo - not a Charger Fan. In fact I am hoping they pack up and head up to LA, and soon. Funny thing is they have been crying about needing a new stadium for years. 'Cept as you know San Diego is flat broke. They don't call us "Enron by the Sea' for nothing.
ANd you know what I always say [well me, Illinois and now COnn.] Being broke sucks.
Moody's:
Isn't that one of those rating firms that downgraded the U.S. during the artificially-manufactured debt crisis?
The ones that everyone says are a fraud and politically motivated?
That Moody's?
Yep that Moodys.
Oh and the $15 trillion, soon to be $16.6 Trillion debt.
Politically motivated? Sure, of course the US is the broke-est country in the history of the world.
But hey - Obama needs to borrow another $1.2 Trillion - perhaps you can help him out?
Yep, the same exact Moodys that downgraded the US under Obama's watch.
Proving once again, your comments have "zero" value?
And btw Backhoser and Feisty - if empty emptiness passes for privege, if your lives are so rich - your so superior and better off than the wealthy .... why are you so bitter about them, why are you so obsessed with them?
We all know we got downgraded because of the uncertainty that GOPTP/Koch created over the Debt Ceiling.
No, we have not forgotten.
That threat has never been taken to the extreme limit before, and it has cost the U.S.
Obama asked for a clean debt ceiling bill right from the beginning.
Requesting less spin & more subtle lying - from the Right,
Privileged or not.
Virginia ought to be embarrased that it's primary requirements are unconstitutional per the judge - who still did nothing to rectify the situation.
What Virginia did was required a minimum of 400 signatures from each congressional district. If they did not get the number for one district they would not be on the Ballot. That isn't so much a problems as the presidential candidates were not permitted to use anyone outside of the state for certain to collect signatures. Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum all three did not have the financial resources and maybe 3 or 4 weeks to get a group of people in each of Virginia's 11 districts to get the signatures needed. Worse yet, Virginia does not permit write-ins on this primary. If you want people to turn out, you must be reasonable on your requirements and rules so people can vote for the candidate of their choice.
Here in Ohio we have our own bend on this. Santorum will not be on the ballot for 3 of the 18 districts for the district delegates, but will be on those ballots for the state wide delegates.
Virginia get with it and put a more reasonable system together, OK?
Backhouse - It's still under the president's watch. He will get the blame for it, no matter what congress did or didn't do. It's on the shoulders of Obama and history will only remember him for the downgrade. Sorry bub, but that's the way it is.
We all know we got downgraded because of the uncertainty that GOPTP/Koch created over the Debt Ceiling.
So you don't have the privlege of possessing common sense either?
Nice spin BB - here are the FACTS from Moody's own report;
"The President's watch."
Keep parroting, cos we ain't buying.
8 (Eight) million jobs lost on President Bush's watch.
GDP went down to 8.9% at the tail-end of President Bush's watch.
Corrrrrrrection: GDP went down to MINUS 8.9%
At the end of President Bush's watch.
Yes, that would be (-8.9%).
Minus 8.9%.
Wow.
Odd how Feisty, a resident of the downgrades Illinois, fails to comment on Illinois.
I guess we have reached the limits of ThinkProgress.
So Backhouse, we not only had no GDP the last quarter that Bush was President, we all had to give back 8.9 % of everything we already had? Or do you mean that "growth" on an annualized basis for that quarter was -8.9%, which is actually statistically possible in theory, but I am yet to see a single source showing a number that low, so I feel free to ask "What's yours?
G.D.P. is the market value of everything produced within America.
"...the overall downward revision was concentrated at the end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009, so that growth in
2008:Q4 was revised to -8.9 percent from -6.8 percent and
2009:Q1 was revised to -6.7 percent from -4.9 percent.
What was already the deepest reported recession
since official quarterly estimates began in 1947 is now reported to have been
significantly worse."
Our GDP in the 4th quarter of 2008 was first thought to be minus 6.8% (-6.8%).
This figure was revised to a shocking minus 8.9% (-8.9%).
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/07/29/advance-estimate-gdp-second-quarter-2011-and-annual-revision
The next Vice President, Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell , has endorsed Mitt Romney.
Sorry, Newt, Virginia is McDonnell country...
Bob,
So you finally realized Rubio wasn't going to be the choice?
Considering Virginia is a non-primary state for Newt, I'm certain he doesn't really care about it.
If this primary stays a 3 or 4 headed monster, then there will be a brokered convention. The word has leaked out from the Republican Moderate Establishment that they are really concerned about Mitt. They see him a brittle making him vulnerable to Obama.
Similarly, the Conservative Republican Establishment isn't real thrilled with Gingrich getting the nomination either. The baggage would make him vulnerable.
NEITHER has even close enough projected delegates to win. You can thank Dr Paul for that.
But, Don't get excited Ron Paul supporters - Dr Paul is well known and people are not comfortable with his position on defense at all. Most of his avid supporters ignore that huge weakness, or want to cut defense spending to indefensible amounts. The Paradox is Paul's claim that his biggest supporters are the military.
Well, anyone can claim pretty much anything that they want to. How can you quantify "military support"? Many assume that military voters are pretty much all Republican, which in my experience, and given the high numbers of minorities who serve, isn't necessarily a totally correct assumption. Wonder how many active-duty military want to be "downsized", a certainty is Paul were somehow to be elected.
If you want to make an assumption, I think its pretty safe to assume that a vast majority of field-grade, flag, and general officers are Republicans.
Looking at the Walker recall issue might help Obama's re-election.
Obama/Biden 2012
You got it, sandy-#####
Folks in WI know how to get it done....Walker is history, which serves him right (right off the political scene).
Obama/Biden 2012!
You guys are funny.
Nope - more like Walker gains traction after Moodys new rating.
chilled - tell us how it is that Walker's cutting has caused a credit uptick, whereas Quinn's 2/3 tax increases has made illinois worse.
Say - just how much more will Illinois now have to pay to borrow money?
Well the republican revolt in Indiana and NFL prayer smack down. Now the Governor will give State of the Union preaching moment for the GOP. All I can say is WOW!!!!
"chilled - tell us how it is that Walker's cutting has caused a credit uptick"
I suggest you address your concern to the 1M+ folk in Wisconsin who signed for his recall.
"Well the republican revolt in Indiana and NFL prayer smack down"
I only heard a snipit on that.....something about the union stripping measures proposed by the Gov. and the NFL/SuperBowl....
Were the Colts standing with the unions vs the Gov, or what?
THe million in Wisc?
Naw, how about the millions in Illinois?
Sorry gang, ain't no way Walker goes. You all do recall the spectacular success of the last great Wisc. recall. Prosser kicked ass/the sleeping giant/$30 million in union ads flushed.
Rock on.
Chilled
NFL union voiced support for workers rights and unions towards Indiana laws. The republican party is fracturing Some now have a Pac to get anyone who supports the bill out of office in next election putting up pro union republicans. Wild stuff if you catch all the backlash.
Thanks, Simplton. Sounds like a real mess, especially with SuperBowl looming!
Spanky ... Let`s start a real conversation ... first we need to agree on America as a corporation valued at
minus $45,000,000,000,000.
I hope you have a stiff drink handy, Ideology. You are going to need it for the conversation you are proposing. Best of luck to you.
Hey Phine, I do not propose this to be a short conversation, but one that will take several weeks. Canadians are good at sitting down and hashing things out.
Seriously, that is one of many things I admire about your country.
Chilled
Any time. The republican thing is just days old and I am sure a lot on media won't follow it!!! When we see that a lot of the American people are CENTER and not really unreasonable. The fighting stops and that is bad for the parties and media.
@ Spanky Wisconsin has now lost jobs for six consecutive months.
The state lost 35,600 jobs during the last six months of 2011.
Walker's JOBS plan not working in Wisconsin!
[Spanky ... Let`s start a real conversation...]
Not. Possible.
...shhhh...Spanky's reading...
Sheesh ... you Americans ... civility is not a war. There was nothing civil about the one you had.
hey Mickey, I bet on the 49ers to win ... that means the Giant`s will
Unfortunately, being brash and rude has become an American trait. Along with lack of patience. As dear old Eric Cantor would say "We want what we want and we want it now" (And let me tell you that attitude drives me nuts, it is the attitude of a 3 year old.)
But it IS National hug day!
Phine ... ((xox))
What up Mickey.
Is what Feisty said yesterday true - you are a girl?
Man, given you Spanky fixation I hope you are hot.
But with my luck I suspect you are not.
Thanks, Ideology! I needed that! :)
I want Canada or Germany to over throw our dictators and force the post wwII German constitution and bill of rights on this country. It was supported buy the world and look at Germany now!!!
Ideology,
Are you Canadians going to overthrow our country? If so, can you put a good word in for me?
I would rather not have Germany overthrow the US. The only German I know is "nein, nein, nein"
Yikes!
Wait - best thread evah! We got us a little Mickey [ah, I mean that figuratively, not literally my man] and now a Canadian take over.
An army of Hosers?
I better pull back on the Captain Morgan. It's only 3:30. insanity and hilarity all in one.
You guys rule.
Germany and Canada are quite busy right now but you are on our to do list.
Cane not German just show man!!!! I only think our years of laws and 200 year old paper needs a rethink!!
and wannabe Spanked ... why do you diss my country. Good reasons please.
oh, and by the way, the offer above is real.
Are we before or after the "clean out the fridge" on the list?
idiolgy
Make it soon. Given our current crew of republicans and their influence on your politics We may all merge.
you have to clean it ... we may have to sell it
Drat. Just cleaned mine today. It does sparkle now, though.
Simplton
We are well aware of Harper`s agenda and if he moves to close to the US he will be gone. What binds us in the end is that we are not the 53rd State.
Forget the merge thing for now. You have health care. Civil unions, Gay's in your military, believe in climate change. Maybe we should be looking at freeing you. We are looking at a party that might want to bring you FREEDOM. I forgot you are the oppressed nation!!!!
Simplton,
Your screen name suits you. Have a nice day.
Simplton
If there is one thing Americans truly love it is the NFL ... and it is organized on a socialist doctrine of equality.
Idiology.
our 52 state as it is seen by the rest of the world is just a colony we like it better that way.
Dis ideology?
Naa, I'm just a big Rick Morans and Rush fan.
What possible reason could there be to dis Canada?
You all are a much better neighbor than Mexico.
Spanky-
tell that to Maine ..:)
Simplton
... so tell me why you dropped the 'e'
So Newt has won and the show comes to my state. I feel the need for a vacation.
Ideology A perry moment OOPS and to be clear for the clones. Washington D.C. is not a state. neither is Porto Rico.
Simplton
... happy to hear you have a foot in both, continue colonizing the rest.
Phine ... Mrytle Beach should be a cheap quiet vacation about now.
I am thinking more "out of the country" type of vacation. Only American channel would be CNNI
Remarkable what a couple of days can do ... the blue team was chanting Romney is 3 and 0, and now he is 1 and 2.
Couple of thoughts here. One, yelling at John King and CNN and blaming the media for everything is good politics for Newt. Two, I am thinking Atlantis in Nassau, Bahamas. Easy direct flight.
Phine ... I know this will set a fire but we get Aljazeera International up here ... scary how honest their reporting is and they deal with the whole world ... you actually get news about the whole world.
Ideology
The clone comment was not for you!!!
The level of knowledge about history geography and facts is so bad 95% of troll posters like spanky and other flux news followers 1. didn't even catch the 53rd comment. They don't even realize Washington D.C is not a CITY of a state or STATE of its own. They do not understand what Porto Rico is in relationship to America except they have brown people there that speak English.
Have a great night. Our clown show moves tomorrow and you up there can laugh and cringe at us.
One, yelling at John King and CNN and blaming the media for everything is good politics for Newt.
I agree, for GOP voters he knocked that one out of the park.
I would imagine I am on someone's watch list. I, on occasion, look up stuff on their website. Oops!
Simplton
Not to worry ... I read you loud and clear ... enjoy your evening too.
I think I shall watch a "B' movie and laugh at the bad acting. It will get me ready to face the bad actors on their way to my state, even as we speak!
Phine ... Reagan and a monkey?
Hi ideo...
[hey Mickey, I bet on the 49ers to win ... that means the Giant`s will]
That is all well and good, but I'd prefer that the Giants embarrass the Patriots again as in 2008...that's what the Pats got for cheating during the season, and Belichick didn't have the class to stay on the feild with his men for the last minute of the game...simply pathetic.
[What up Mickey. Is what Feisty said yesterday true - you are a girl?]
Spanky, it is in my opinion that you have bigger things to be concerned with rather than worrying your little head over whether I am male or female...
...but that's just my opinion...
Random question. Why do candidates (and I mean any of them) bus supporters in from other states to make the crowds seem larger and more lively? Seems a little dishonest to me, but hey, I am just a voter, so what do I know?
Optics phine, it's all about optics!.....honesty, what's that?
Optics?
No way - greek columns ensured Obama would kick ass, right?
Oh, and Obama making his acceptance speech at BOA stadium, just outstanding.
phine,
Yes they all do it.
It is all about optics. Many people want to back the most popular, most likely to win candidate. Big crowds, when shown on film coverage, get the attention of undecided viewers/voters. It is proven to work.
Also if they expect a crowd of say 300 people they will rent a room that holds 200 to make sure it appears over crowded.
They bus them in because at MOST of the events the Republican contenders have had they are lucky to break 30 people attending. LOL So for the big announced events they have to bus people in to make it LOOK like people are for them. It's a traditional Republican underhanded tactic. The Khoc Brothers did it for the town halls during the Health Care showdown. They bussed people in from out of state. Most of the people at those events didn't even live in the state or town.
Republicans have fine tuned how to lie, cheat and steal an election.
Sandy - All politicians do it. Not just republicans. I couldn't help notice how eager you were to throw your quarter of a cent's worth into a discussion without knowing that even democrats do it. Is it your nature to be a braniack without a cause?
Brian, you just don't have a clue do you. It's a business for the republicans to bus people in to their events. If they didn't then very few people would actually show up. I have looked through past reported events and the Republicans bus more people in than the Democrats ever have. Plus the Republicans tend to bus people in from way, way out of state. They usually can't find enough local support so they have to go scrounging the bottom of the barrel for people who are probably too lazy or old to work to attend their events.
Is it your nature to just accept whatever Fox News and the Republican party put out? Most of it is either lies or things so twisted they have no resemblance to what they originally were. I actually do the hard research. Most people like you are either too lazy or just like being told what to think.
Sandy,
Sorry, in this case BB is right. ALL candidates do it. Optics is everything. Just mentioned above because Romney did it today.
Phine - being a west coastie, that has always confused me. I guess we rarely see that happen in the west half because it is just do darn far to bus people in from out of state.
Red,
And, sadly, both parties kinda of give you the shaft by having your primaries so late. Not really fair to you folks!
We also get shafted in the general election .. it is almost always decided by the time our results come out.
Red,
Sometimes, even before your polls close! Seriously not fair!
Next freak show Monday night I can't wait!
The ultimate reality show!
Romney lived an "ordinary life". It is just ordinary to enjoy the pursuits of the son of a millionaire to him. He now has to struggle with only a quarter of a billion dollars. How boringly ordinary. He claims his opponents are contesting with him out of, not politics, but "envy". They want to be him. Romney counts his worth in dollars, not sense.
Privilege breeds contempt.
Affinity---Romney has lived on the "streets of America" so he understands us. I think he truly believes we will fall for that. It is true only in the sense that all of his many homes are on streets---well, except for the one that overlooks the ocean, I suppose.
Steeler Fan,
Did you get a bit nauseous typing the first part of that?
Haha Steeler - Live on the streets for Romney means Rodeo Drive, Beverly Glen, and PCH up in Malibu. Of course, I guess he could always take it down a notch and slum along Sunset Blvd. or Melrose.
Looks like Romney Chickened out because Newt is riding a wave of South Carolina anger stirred up by a master.
How quickly South Carolina has forgotten Republican Mark Sanford and his Hot Tamale in Argentina, well Newts apple didn't fall far from his tree...
The big ham showdown, was dissapointing? Hey the two Hams showed up. Romney couldn't decide what to order, asked around and found out what was most popular, ordered that! Gingrich two eggs sunnyside up, with 3 sides!
Remember.
There is a class of people who, no matter how much government money and benefits you throw at them, no matter how many government programs there are to help them, and no matter how many Socialist programs you put them on; that class of people will never get off their tails and actually work for a living at a real job off the public dole.
We call those people Republicans.
...and they all fight for the most coveted Government job, the Presidency!
Who is "we" - do you have a mouse in your pocket or is 'chilled' your civil union partner in stupidity? In any case, it doesn't matter what YOU call Obama's stampede of food stamp parasites, normal people people know they are democrats.
By the way, you need to re-read and edit your paragraph, it doesn't make sense as written. I know the point you were trying to make; try reading like this and see if it doesn't sound better:
Chicago- Foodstamp parasites really? You are going to call all the people, many of them working, parasites because they had to have foodstamps, to make ends meet, in this economy! Wow, Ole Newti sure struck a chord with you! Talk about class warfare! Hate to tell you this my Republican neighbors, fit into that box, that is why I am babysitting for free, husband found some work out of town. See that's what neighbors, communities do when hard times hit, we don't ask, are you a R or D. we LIBERALS don't judge!
You liberals judge everyone and everything every day. Any one who isn't 100% pro-Obama all the time every day is a "teabagger", a "dittohead", a racist and a homophobe. I know because you tell everyone that constantly. How "liberal" (original definitions:generous and fair-minded, current definitions:greedy [for other people's money] and closed-minded) of you.
Just once, I would like to see a "conservative" with a few years experience in the public assistance field (DHHS/DHHR/DPW, etc) cite actual statistics on all these people on foodstamps who are in fact, leeches.
My years in human services showed a far different picture, backed by verified statistics and an aggressive Investigations and Fraud Management unit; one of the best in the country. Our typical recipient of public assistance was employed 32 hours a week or more, and had less than 2 children, and all of this in the 3rd most resource-rich state in the USA.
The legions of idiots, fueled by hate radio and the GOP lie machine, bemoan foodstamps during the 2nd worst economic disaster in American history. I guess they'd be far happier with thousands of Bread Lines and starvation as a major cause of death in this country, once again. But then, that's what peasants are for.
Romney is too timid and quiet to lead this nation. He leaves before Newt shows up... probably doesn't want to get into an unscripted debate. Perhaps a smart move for Mitt... Gingrich would blow him away in an unscripted debate.
What do you think that he's been doing? Just how far could he have gotten if he'd been even a halfway decent guy?
FOX news just announced the 2013 NEWS line up will include a daily 1 hour program. "The Want to BEE's" with revolving guests to inform the nation on False facts followed by the new 2 hour "COULD HAVE BEN'S" with the like of Huckabee, Bachmann, Cane, Perry and those who are not elected this year'
The new Prime time show WEEKLY DEBATE" politics the new sprort!!!!!!!!!
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For spanky and outhouse.
Here's why Obama will be reelected. He only has to beat any of these mental midgets the repugs are running. Newt the slimey salamander giving off toxic poisons, the real moral religious wife cheater, Romney the rich Mormon who fires everybody and makes millions and won't release his tax returns, Ricky Sanitorium and Ron Paul. Obama has to be laughing everyday watching these clowns!
Remember the good old days when the world was talking about a DEPRESSION. The year was 2008. Hmm I wonder who was in charge back then. How soon everybody forgets.
2008
Sep. 15 2008- Dow falls 504 points
Sep. 17 2008 Dow falls 449 points
Sep. 29 2008 Dow falls 778 points
Oct. 9 2008 Dow falls 679 points, finishing under 8,600
Oct, 10 2008 Dow ends worst week in history
Oct. 15 2008 Dow falls 733 points
Oct. 22 2008 Dow falls 514 points
When the idiot bush left office the DOW was at 8221.00 Now it's over 12,000.
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2008
Mar. 16 2008 - Bear Stearns bought by JP Morgan Chase for $2 a share to avoid bankruptcy
Sep. 7 2008 U.S. bails out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
Sep. 14 2008 Lehman Brothers files for bankruptcy
Sep. 14 2008 Merrill Lynch bought by Bank of America for 50 cents on the dollar
Sep. 16 2008 AIG bailed out with $85 billion loan from Federal Reserve
Sep. 25 2008 Washington Mutual fails. Larget bank failure in history
Oct. 3 2008 Bush signs $700 billion bailout stimulus bill.
Yep it was little old brain dead W and the repugnanticans. No more to be said. Anybody want to return to 2008? I didn't think so.
Aw Ron .. didn't you hear, that was all Obama's fault. Apparently, because he was a presidential hopeful, the economy went over the cliff with all the uncertainty. Oh and lest we forget, the job market crash was also Obama' fault. It had nothing to do with sliding down the toilet, like it always has, shortly after the crash of the economic markets.
Now, where Obama has failed to step up to plate in stellar fashion is to make sure we got, from Congress, true financial reform. Now, I personally blame all branches of government equally, not just Obama. We need (this Congress is a waste) the next Congress to go to work to fix the financial markets. Enough dust has settled, the economy is picking up steam, and the experts understand well enough what reforms are necessary (yes, I think Dodd-Frank while well meaning, was a bit early and doesn't go far enough). Now is the time to act to shore up regulations on the markets. If they fail to act, another crisis is looming around the corner waiting to happen. The signs are already there; CEOs are again making outrageous bonuses; shadow banking is taking over bank lending; risk taking is becoming once again, the norm.
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Great post, I'll spread the info and give you credit.
thanks for reminding the idiots on here that forgot just how close we came to financial ruin. the bailout was not popular but what other choice was there? Obama is getting our economy going again and we need to support him. The GOP had their chance and we found out how that worked out. 2 wars and a major tax break. stupid arrogant politicans taking care of their money backers. the war machine and the super rich!!
Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!!!!!
Just two words for you,,,,,,,,,,,,,WAKE UP
SECRET SONG OF THE HYPOCRITICAL POLITICIAN (Does this sound a little like Newt?)
I went down the aisle a few years back - Got saved and baptized by my Brother Jack
That sure makes up for compassion I lack. You are just jealous, so get off my back!
An insurance policy issued by the church - Is all I need to sing on MY perch.
I do what I want, then say a Hail Mary, - Even talk in “TOUGUES” if necessary!
I pray louder and longer than ANY in church - That makes me immune to any soul-search!
I manipulate Christians, and they vote me in - It’s amusing to rob them again and again!
They notice NOT transfers of their wealth to mine - With bogus social issues, I keep them in line!
I dramatize abortion, the gay and the gun - And appeal to their morals (of which I have none).
They even get scared and sacrifice their son -To a war where I profit and get OIL by the ton.
I manipulate Christians, like I’m one of them - I can fake sweet prayer and sing a great hymn!
They lap it up, even if they are poor -And think I am righteous, while I rob them more.
The Bible, Constitution and American Flag - Are words that I weave into most every gag.
attention diverted from deeds that I do - And every poor sucker that I actually screw.
I get them to blame my opponent, you see -For I have the money and “own” their TV.
Bibles and Guns!… those keep them busy! Fox spins the spin that keeps their brains dizzy.
I like to use the motto “Once saved always saved” - As my little loophole to be greedy and depraved.
I‘ll beg forgiveness AFTER the fact - For any wrong doing and THEN God won’t act.
Loopholes in churches and Washington DC -Protect me and guide me and keep me guilt-free.
Why not decrease the minimum wage? - but on issues like torture…just turn the page?
Forgive Wall Street for all that they do! - be a good Christian and sacrifice more too!
Clothe the naked? Heal the sick? - They’re in my way and need a swift kick!
Feed the hungry? For heaven’s sake! - Lock them away and let them eat cake!
The Sociopath fooled everyone in SC!
People of SC. You really didn't have to forgive a M F er.
Hahahahaha,,,,,,,Yes "Conservatives" It is ALL the fault of the Progressive posters here that the Republican party is in a shambles and is running the worst group of candidates I have seen in 50 years in the primary, Sure it is, And if you just keep using the rhetoric BS provided to you by FOX it will ALL be OK in the end, It doesn't matter how much logic they use, It doesn't matter how many facts are on the liberals side, Just keep up the chant and suddenly all of Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich's past ignorance will all fade away, If you chant a little louder (and maybe chant the name itself) Ron Paul may even remember which State he is in and his pre-alzheimers diagnosis forgetfulness will be instantly cured.
Hahahahaha,,,,,Are you people living in the same world as the rest of humanity??