After some earlier uncertainty, the Romney campaign has confirmed that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will participate in Monday's NBC/National Journal/Tampa Bay Times debate moderated by NBC's Brian Williams.
As a result, all four remaining Republican presidential candidates -- Romney, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum -- will appear at the debate, which takes place in Tampa, FL and airs on NBC beginning at 9:00 pm ET.
The statement from NBC News Senior Vice President of Specials Mark Lukasiewicz:
"All four qualifying Republican presidential candidates have confirmed their attendance for Monday's NBC News, National Journal, Tampa Bay Times debate. Florida has often been the stage for history in politics -- we look forward to hosting a substantive and stimulating forum for the candidates to make their case to the voters in this crucial state and the whole country."


Are we positive there will be 4?
Given the events that transpired last week - a whole lot can happen in 48 hours..?
Just sayin! ;o)
A day is a lifetime in politics...
I don't know Feisty, there could be five again if Colbert and the Hermanator have anything to say about it...
I can hear it now, "I have decided to reinstate my resignation on the grounds of regentrification of the reconsideration based on the ice cream this month being Black Walnut purchased by my sister's cousin's brother's nephew by another brother by Koch Industry's EBT Card!"
Oh the irony...
I have heard enough thank you. We can only hope none show up and pac up their bags of crappola and GO HOME to the cayman islands......
NEWS FLASH
Jan 19, 2012 Faith in public life
40 national Catholic leaders in a letter today are urging "our fellow Catholics Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum
to stop perpetuating racial stereotypes on the campaign trail."
With these four shining stars it looks like the GOP has thrown in the towel. Total lack of charisma. Talk about Stale and Pale.
Obama/Biden 2012
Anyone willing to admit they remember:
HOWDY DOODY FOR PRESIDENT?
1948
NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED! I strongly encourage all, but especiallywomen, to do a little googling about mormons and what their women and girls lives are actually like. Find out for yourselves just what this mormon priest has and will dictate for females. All mormons must follow the teachings of Smith or be expelled from the cult and not able to be the "gods" that they firmly believe they will be when they die. The cult preys on the young and rips families apart. The teenagers that get sucked into their cult are forever separated from their Christian families. I know. It happened in my family. Their Christian families are not even allowed to attend their weddings.To allow that would be to defile their temple. Please I beseech you to just take a little time and find out just what a mormon actually is and what they absolutely must do. And what this man will be required to do as president. Have you ever heard of a single mormon female having accomplished anything at all, ever, except raising children?? Do you know what happens to the ones that fail to bear children?? How can a man who's religion will not allow Christians in their temple because they would defile it, lead a Christian country?? Please do not allow this damaging, false prophet pushing, brainwashed man to take control of our country!
At least something is happening in the debates cause it ain't happening in Washington
with the dictator on his big union big company fund raising tour and now vacationing
in disneyland which is where he belongs cause his socialist agenda is nothing but a
big liberal fairytale! why the F would any candidate go to a psmnbc obombo network
debate anyway? for more bias and ridiculous questions? your dumb fox is cute even
if wasn't so halarious! at least FOX is for freedom not freedumb like you liberals!
The remarks by "thinkingtwice" sound like the comments of some redneck, hillbilly, inbred, ignorant, backwoods, religious bigot. That kind of garbage should be rejected by anyone with a brain - heck, even half a brain.
"Conniving Carpet Bagger from Pennsylvania takes dim witted southerners for a ride....falsely claims "southern" roots"
news at 11
sandy ... news flash nobody cares
Monday is light years away for Team Romney and Santorum...we will have a better idea of who will be on that stage on Monday around 10 o'clock tonight...
I think they will all fight on a little longer.....they are feeling too good about their prospects at this point......
dangerfield,
I agree. If I recall Thursday correctly, Thursday morning 5 candidates were to debate. By that evening it was only 4.
You are a Santorum backer?...My guess is he gets 10% or less and is out by Monday
dangerfield,
As a side note here, did you see that James Dobson is now endorsing Santorum? Will that make a difference with evangelicals?
It's a brave new world, and the old alliances and interest groups don't seem to have the same influence as they once did, at least not in the primary contests. In an election cycle dominated by economic issues, social issues are on the back burner...
You are correct, dangerfield. I should have just looked at the two front runners and realized that. However, I did find it an interesting note. I also wonder how upset, in the future these groups will be, feeling that their concerns were not an issue for the GOP?
I would love to see it cut down to Mitt, Paul and Newt.
Then after some more debate, and continued rightward shift on fiscal and tax issues, cut it back to just Mitt and Paul.
Then it'll be all debt and deficit, all the time. Maybe a smattering of overseas stuff. I'm thinking if we get to mid Feb. Libya will be a complete sharia state, and Egypt even worse than it is now.
Well, in Virgina, at least, it will be Romney and Paul.
As for Muslim countries supporting Sharia law, what would you expect, they would prefer Judeo/Christian Law? Let's let these countries figure things out a bit. We (the US) are still working on our country, and it has been over 200 years. Let's try and give these folks a break that have just overthrown their own governments and let it play out a bit.
I know, I know, wishful thinking. Americans always know what is best for everyone - whether they like it or not, or fits their culture or not.
You keep wishin' for bad luck and knockin' on wood Spanky, wasn't Europe going to collapse last month? Guess you don't think things have been bad ENOUGH to unseat the incumbent without some 1980 style help...and the way things are going you may be right. This might be the year the Republicans lose the White House and realign for the third time since 1964...
Romney is turning into "The agony of Defeat" guy, dropping like a rock from the ski jump in the old "Wide World of Sports" opening sequence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKEDD1i4oGk
Give them a break?
Uh, just who do you think over threw the Libyan government?
Hint: those were not Libyan Tomahawks raining down.
But I do wonder where your sentiment about American always knowing better was when WE bombed a country with whom we were not at war with, and in which we have no strategic or national interest in, was?
Say, any chance we re-coup the Billions that little 'kinetic military event' cost?
Probably not, but since we screwed that pooch, we are responsible for that Sharia paradise.
Plus - it really should be great for women's rights and personal liberty.
GEORGE W. Bush launched his second term as president with an inaugural address that put the spread of democratic freedoms at the heart of his international agenda. In one memorable passage, he promised “all who live in tyranny and hopelessness’’ that “the United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you.’’
Within days, the administration was making it clear that this “Bush doctrine’’ would apply even to autocratic US allies like Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak. When Ayman Nour, a leading Egyptian democracy activist, was arrested on bogus charges and thrown in jail, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cancelled a planned trip to Egypt in protest. Her trip was rescheduled only after Nour was released, and upon landing in Cairo in June 2005, she delivered a ringing defense of democracy and the right of peaceful dissenters to be heard.
http://articles.boston.com/2011-02-02/bostonglobe/29347464_1_freedom-agenda-democracy-arab-world
Not only is it the "Bush Doctrine" it's also the right thing to do. Spanky, are you against promoting freedom during a Democratic administration?
Uh, just who do you think over threw the Libyan government?
Libyan freedom fighters with the assistance of NATO forces...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya
You could look it up...
So Greece is not going to default and all is well?
Good to know.
But not really needed to beat Obama. Nope - he done bad all by himself.
Oh who am I kidding - Landmark legislation - Obamacare.
Saved the economy and kept unemployment under 8%. Was instrumental in ousting Mubarack and Kadhafi.
He is the whole package. Domestic and foreign accomplishments.
Accordingly it does not matter who runs against him. He's a lock.
And say Danger - you are a trends guy:
Approval ratings of President awesome - 1/09 69%, 1/10 57%, 1/11 47%, 1/12 43%.
Interesting, no?
Looks like Obama and Mitt do have something in common.
dangerfield.....Promoting freedom with some type of regional interest maybe.....where's the promoting freedom for Nigeria today....??
It was a fantastic doctrine, and of course we all know Obama has simply copied/continued his policies in that regard, but see, the times they are a changing.
Plus we are broke.
$1billion for tomahawks or for roads and schools here?
Being broke sucks.
Spanky, this is silly
ONE measly billion vs how much in unnecessary tax cuts? 1 measly billion vs. The Iraq invasion? 1 beggar's Billion vs. the Medicare prescription drug plan? That lousy little billion wouldn't pay the "tip" for any of these things, why does that one little billion irk your sensitive little fiscal sensibilities so much?
Do you know what N.A.T.O and the U.N. are besides whipping boys for the fringe crazies on the left and right? We didn't go into libya without precedent, we didn't go without cause, and we didn't go alone.
It's only self-delusion, hypocrisy and a double standard that would enable anyone to moan about a billion dollars to help free an entire people, when they stood by silently as TRILLIONS were misappropriated, squandered and lost.
America could have used you then Spanky, when so many fiscal conservatives turned a blind eye to our rising deficit, when the meme was that "as a percentage of GDP" the deficit wasn't a PROBLEM, remember?
From 2004, the "good old days" when no one seemed to care that we were spending and cutting our way into a disaster...
Reagan Policies Gave Green Light to Red Ink
The line is not likely to make this week's eulogies to Ronald Reagan, but when Vice President Cheney allegedly declared, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he summed up an enduring argument from the former president's economic legacy.
In late 2002, Cheney had summoned the Bush administration's economic team to his office to discuss another round of tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill pleaded that the government -- already running a $158 billion deficit -- was careering toward a fiscal crisis. But by O'Neill's account of the meeting, Cheney silenced him by invoking his take on Reagan's legacy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A26402-2004Jun8?language=printer
Where were the deficit hawks then?
What difference does that ONE Billion dollars you're crying about now make?
Why thank you danger - just like I said, the times they are a changing.
See, back in the 'good old days' of regan and bush the deficits were bad, but in comparison to today's they are peanuts.
$6.8 by this time next year, and all in just 4 years.
A billion here and a billion there adds up. Being broke sucks and means you can no longer engage in marginal economics. It all matters.
Ron Paul is a little kooky but I can't help but like his straight forward approach... He is consistent, does not flip flop like the other candidate's do... The only thing is that he is just a little too extreme when it comes to the constitution and civil rights...
Plus he is a right wing conservative...
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Newt's revival suggests a possible outcome quite favorable to Ron Paul: neither Romney nor Gingrich get enough delegates for the nomination, thus making Paul 'king-maker'. I wonder how high his price will be for his delegates?
phine and I have been dancin around this point for about a week now without really coming right out and saying it.
The Grinch trashing Mitts was the best thing that could happen for Dr Paul. He was already fitting into the role of kingmaker before this outcome, he is solidly there now, with a chance for a LOT more as long as the Grinch keeps trashing Mitts.
Florida & Nevada, then Super Tuesday. Florida will be another Mitts vs Grinch showdown cause Mitts has to get nasty now if only to match the Grinch. Santorum will hang either third or fourth, but I suspect the Dr will do better than SC. There are a LOT of libertarians in FL and they do use their brains. If Santorum doesn't do well in Florida I expect him to fold and back Mitts only because he doesn't want to upset the establishment....
The Games afoot!
One of the things I found funny at the last debate was Newt's plea for the need to take the House and Senate.
One of the original talking points against the President was his alleged inability to "lead" when it comes to engaging with the GOP. How he allegedly can't bring the country together, blah, blah... Yet Romney and Gingrich both tout their self-proclaimed exceptional leadership qualities.
For 2 men who so strongly believe in their ability to "lead" and 'get things done', their need to take the House and have 61 in the Senate as a linchpin to the success of the goals is all too telling. For men who are alleged leaders, I don't recall any praise or noteworthy, positive comments given towards any who are Democrats in the Congress. No names provided or inividual qualities highlighted as the people whom their Administrations would reach out to etc.
From my perspective, neither one of you are leaders. You've done nothing exceptional. You haven't looked in the eye of your electorate and given the ugly truth of what truly needs to happen to change the nature of the Country. You've pushed back at them for nothing but instead only fueled the fire that represents the faux outrage at President Obama and what he's allegedly done to the Country.
No...it's only 'the President and Democrats hate the Country and Freedom and Achievement blah, blah, blah and we, all of us up on this stage love the Country and Freedom and Achievement blah, blah, blah'
Like it or not, there will be a split Government come 2013 and if Hell does indeed freeze over and we find one of you the Oval Office you will get nothing done that needs to be done, because you are not Leaders or anything close to. You're typical. You're opportunist and you're people who in my opinion, believe more in your quest to become President, than you are in leading a Nation.
So neither Mitt, a former governor, not Newt, a former Speaker are leaders.
But Obama, in 2008 was. Oh and totally not opportunistic.
Now I grant you he did look us in the eye and tell us what needed to be done. In fact he told us all kinds of things he'd do. Too bad he didn't do much of it, eh?
Interesting perspective you got there Allen.
WOW Allen!!
What the hell they puttin in the water down there in Omaha? Don't know what it is, but I like it.
I think all of these large government parasites with the typical republican entitlement attitude will be out the door by November 9th, 2012.
Then we can settle in for another 4 years of GOP obstruction.
So in other words Spanky, you're argument is that the then candidate Obama fed us a load of crap in 08 and so are the current crop of GOP candidates in 2012, so therefore I should be just fine with it? And incidentally, 'positional leadership' is the lowest level of leadership there is. People only follow you because of the position you hold. If I'm supposed to grant Mitt and Newt leadership credentials because of the positions they held, by your own logic, you would have to grant the hightest leadership to PRESIDENT Obama, because he IS holding the hightest Office in the Land. Yes, that is my perspective.
The President's push back from the Right, in my opinion will always be, because the Right will never accept anything from a Deomocratic President.
His push back from Independants, in my opinion, stem from the ridiculous process that has taken place to get anything done in Washington. And they declare independance for just that reason, they have no allegiance per say, but they do like to see things get done w/o chaos.
His push back from the Left, in my opinion, will be because of personality to make a deal and get it done has made him appear as though he caters more to those on the Right than those on the Left and they get angry with that.
President Obama would get my vote for his effort, not for the resolution alone. Method and outcome mean something to me.
I see a method in the GOP candidates, but it is not a method I like and/or agree with.
No Allen the point is that Newt and Mitt have lead. Obama had not.
Perspective is always fun. See Clinton and the GOP got a lot done back in the 90's. Oh and there was plenty of ridiculousness - the whole thing shut down.
In any event - if I had to guess if guess the GOP will keep the House and get the Senate.
And it's ok you don't agree. Isn't demcracy great?
I recalled President Obama looking directly in the Americans eyes? How some people can continue to have narrow minds with large blinders on......amazes me. When will gop/tea followers quit defending the actions of bush and prez chaney and their current group of the Worst politicians and obstructionist in the history of the usa? When?
That evil George W Bush! Unemployment at 4 and a half percent! A gallon of gas at less then half of what it is now! $10 trillion in debt compared to 16 now! And I cannot wait for those "gotcha questions" that will be asked instead of ones that should pertain to the running of this country and fixing the problems we all face! More on Newts ex-wife, or Romneys finance's, but nothing on fast and furious, oBAMAcare, sliceing and diceing our military instead of record foodstamp handouts and welfare for moochers!
lol ...you forgot about 2010 when all you libs got kicked out of the house right ? and they are doing just what they were elected to do stop obuma the best they can also obstructionist lol ..harry boy and the dems are the obstructionist at least the house votes on things harry just keeps on shelving everything you dems dont like
Excellent post Allen! Well said!
Shhhhhhhhhhh! You aren't supposed to back talk a liberal! Didn't you know that? They are emotionally sensitive. If you say anything about Obama it has to be that he's the brightest bulb in the pack, the smartest in the nation, he is a genuine leader and has been working 24 hours a day for almost 3 years. All of Obama's promises have come true, Obama never makes a mistake, is perfect and is trying really hard to walk on water... and by golly when he learns it, it will show everyone too!
Beyondthereef,,,I remember oBAMA looking into the American peoples eyes and saying "there is no pork in that stimulas", (though he must of forgot the 8700 plus earmarks on it)!
Remember.
There is a class of people who, no matter how much government money and benefits you throw at them, no matter how many government programs there are to help them, and no matter how many Socialist programs you put them on; that class of people will never get off their tails and actually work for a living at a real job off the public dole.
We call those people Republicans.
HEY GOPEx,
ROTFJLMSAO!!!!!!
I would really be appreciate you putting me in touch with you smoke supplier, that has gotta be some of the best stuff out there! I just gotta have some of that!
Spanky @ 4.1===Surely there is an ambulance going to an accident somewhere that you could be chasing.
I would vote for Obama over dirty Newt. Ethics violations. Own party kicked him out as speaker. Dems have all the dirt they need.
And I bet you would buy a honda before a harley too john IQ16
Thunder, remember the Harley slogan. Buy a Harley,buy the best.Ride a mile,walk the rest.
Newt Gingrich and Family Values:
Using daughters from your first wife to convince everyone that your second wife is lying about your third wife.
Oh Goody, soon we will know just what piece of trash the republicans plan on running for president.
Do we get Romney with his Cayman Island accounts who is hiding his tax records.
Or do we get Gingrich who is so corrupt he is the only speaker in the history of our nation to be thrown out for ethnics charges.
Or do we get Sanatorium who is so backward that he still thinks gay is catching.
Or do we get the prize of Ron Paul wants to kill health-care so you can have the freedom to die if you get ill. Being afraid the poor might get too much, Ron voted against increasing the minimum wage.
Then after the failed ideals of these canidates you then want to pretend that protecting the rich is what is best for our country.
For the love of American Obama/Biden 2012
If you love to keep a divided America ......like it is now...or are you having trouble seeing it....
Yeah Americans First;
The GOP should be proud of the elite team they have fielded this election.
You have summarized the best of the GOP best. The 1/8th of 1% of the cream skimmed right off the top.
A morally-bankrupt serial adulterer, an inheritance child professional corporate parasite, a deranged Big Government ideologue, a goofy doctor and an ex-Democrat ambassador to China.
All of them incompetent nebishes.
The party did it to themselves. The GOP expelled anyone who wasn't a far-right weirdo years ago. Not a one of them could spell cat if you spotted them the "C" and the "A".
And that's the BEST you got to face Obama?
You repubs are gonna get slaughtered in November. Absolutely slaughtered.
occupy ... you are a %^$^% piece of work ... why dont you just move to a socialist country so they will take care of you untill there country collapses ..... you ows people are the trash in this country .... and nobody cares about ows except the few cling ons like you ...your great pres obuma wont even say he on your side now ...lol
Gopisextinct
Anyone of the four would be better then the racist,marxist,socialist fool obuma at least they know how many states there are .
Pretty bad Kevin when you have to go back 4 years to find a gaff. You seem to forget that a majority of us elected President Obama that you so freely call names.
Don't forget if one of them was president we would now be in another ground war in Libya that we couldn't get out just like Iraq. Including we would still be in Iraq. Talk about a deficit. It would be so bad that republicans would be demanding another tax cut for the rich.
kevin are you from needles california or what? small minded and backwards thinking is sure boring the heck out of everyone.
I would suggest you look at the records folks.Who is in favor of the NDAA?Obama,Romney,Santorum,And Gingrich.Who is for the Patriot Act?The same people.Who is in favor of socialized medicine?All the above.Who is a multi millionaire?All the above.Who is in favor of foreign wars abroad?Same group.Oh yea,except Ron Paul!Dr.Paul voted against,the NDAA,SOPA,PIPA,Patriot Act,Obamacare,all wars without a declaration from congress,and has constantly returned money to treasury (100k in 2010,then 140k 2011)He hasn't ever taken money from lobbyists,he refuses his pension from congress.He has introduced legislation to cut congress pay to coincide with inflation!He get more money from active military than ALL other candidates including Obama!All the people who are chanting for another war should all go and enlist!Because our young men and women are fed up!I would suggest you take a look at the houses these candidates live in.And then tell me who lives more on the side of most Americans!Ron Paul 2012!Scaring the &*^% out of the status quo!
the fact you have an occupy communist symbol as your photo says it all.
you wanna be ruled by a bunch of big union liberals who are making themselves
rich while all the people they claim to help have higher gas energy food clothing
etc..prices and NO JOBS! go to europe if you love socialistopia! oh that's right it don't exist!
I have a list of 30 different things I'm gonna post, many of them are already being applied, or have been applied, to American society already.
My Question, can anyone tell me where they come from?
1. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of political affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
2. Extension of long-term loans to Russia
3. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of political domination.
4. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
5. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.
6. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
7. Continue giving other countries access to the U.S. Patent Office.
8. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
9. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations.
10. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
11. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
12. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
13. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "To promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
14. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
15. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
16. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
17. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
18. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
19. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
20. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
21. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture.
22. Support any movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
23. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
24. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
25. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. [Is this what we can expect next?] Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
26. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose our goals.
27. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
28. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
29. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.
30. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over US internal domestic problems. Give the World Court complete jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
Except for a few of them, I have seen most of these brought up by various posters on the vine from time to time.
Does anyone have any idea where these issues originate from?
Hopefully we can get someone who is not an establishment guy in, such as Dr. Paul.
"Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders."
– The Honorable Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Commit...tee in the 1930s
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. This issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of the moneyed corporations which already dare to challenge our Government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country"
-Thomas Jefferson 1791
"There is no greater threat to the security and prosperity of the United States today than the out-of-control, secretive Federal Reserve.
Imagine that parents, overwhelmed by debt and months behind on their bills, sent their spendthrift teenagers out each weekend for a night on the town with credit cards and blank checks. Would anyone be surprised if this family never got their finances under control?
Yet that is how a government which is almost 15 trillion dollars in the red behaves by entrusting taxpayers’ financial futures to the Federal Reserve, which pumps money into the economy whenever it chooses and makes secret deals with Wall Street executives, foreign central banks, and other politically-connected insiders without any significant oversight from Congress."
-Ron Paul 2011
Another debate? I wonder what there is left to say....
I agree with AmericansFirst. The GOP is making the entire primary series into a clown car. This show is better than the circus and you don't even have to buy a ticket. The GOP has run out of fresh meat and the final four have done so much damage to each other that all that Team Obama has to do is use their own ads against them. The reason Romney does want to make his tax returns public is that they will show extraordinary contributions to the Morman church. They will also show a level of earnings that will turn off most of the GOP base and the Tea party folks. Romney is so out of touch with the majority of the country that when his aides said he had a domestic problem he told them to fire the housekeeper and the cook!!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 Or maybe Obama/Clinton????? And now, back to the circus.......................
Obuma lovers have a big surprise when the general election starts ... there are going to dig up everything on obuma and wont be scared like last time to be called a racist for vetting the so called blk man in the wht house ..... he has to run on his crappy record and also dont forget about rev wright ,billayers,vanjones ,george soros, and he will have to release his college transcripts who he bought his house from and so on and so on and the lib media will not be able to protect him now .
Hey Kevin,
H.G. Wells called, he wants his 'time machine' back...
lol ...you should talk red i think the dye is sinking into your brain ,,,, you libs are talking about newts past and everything you are talking about is 10 to 15 years old so who is in a time machine??
Oh kevin kevin kevin.........if ya try real hard...take a deep breath..again and reach down and slowly pulled your head out of your rear end life would get easier for you.
you libs bust me up you act like this fool has done a good job ....lol ..8.6 unemployment after spending 5 trillion dollars ....lol ...what a joke it would have been cheaper just to cut every tax paying american a check ... oh the key is tax paying ... not the obumas going to pay my bills crew.
Never mind Newt's past. How about the revelation published in Newsweek about Karen Santorum? It seems Karen shacked for eight years with an abortion doctor, forty years her senior. Seriously, folks, you can't make this stuff up. Oh the irony.
Kevin and what liberal media protected him last time, faux?
Or do you consider the liberal media someone who won't tell outright lies like faux about President Obama?
You may have been in a coma but the rest of us saw plenty of vetting on all the same items you want to bring up again.
I am currently serving on a Board of Directors for a non-profit. If someone on the board did something in their past while I was still a child, am I responsible and therefore tied to their crime? These are the kind of crimes that President Obama committed that the republicans want to expose.
But Newt the only speaker in the history of country to be fined and thrown out of office the republicans want to elect president. We can see just how much the republicans really are concerned about ethics and family values.
Too bad the republicans don't want to hold republicans to the same high standards they think President Obama should be held.
rbell,,That is all you socialist libs know is to character assasinate with not a word how our "most transparent president" will not release his collage records or writings with the harvard law review that will SHOW what a radical socialist he really is! Newsweek??? Yes, hey have never been known to tell a lie like douche danny rather and his Bush military papers! All forged bullcrap!
thunder,
Since you don't even know how to spell college I think his records would be wasted on you. You sound to me like the typical right-wing extremist who hates intelligent, educated people.
kevin,
You ought to go back under that rock you were hiding beneath. Do you have even one single intelligent thing to say? Or is it all just hate-driven drivel? You and your buddy thunder sound like racists to me.
And yet you cannot show what I said is untrue jackoff! All you can do is (like the socialist lib way ) is chastise and character assasinate!
thunder,
Well, for starters, you didn't say anything that was true. You said that his writings in the Harvard Law Review would prove he was a radical. But the fact is, anybody can go to Harvard and look up his writings in the Harvard Law Review. So it's not a question of his refusing to release them--they're essentially in the public domain. And so that puts the burden of proof on you to show that his writings are radical.
Secondly, if you had his transcripts you would see that he took Torts, and then you would come back to this Vine crowing that he took a course about bawdy women or small cakes, and the rest of us would be scratching our heads and going, Huh?
Third, no president in U.S. history has been asked to show his transcripts, so why should President Obama have to show his? And even if he did show them, what would it prove? What would it matter? The fact that you keep asking reflects a latent racist streak because it insinuates that a black man isn't smart enough to be president.
And finally, your writing is incoherent. And it says everything that needs be said about you.
Sounds to me like thunder is either married to Leona, or hitting the jug of thunderbird a wee bit too hard!
You must be a paid oBAMAzombie! One, if you check on it, he has blocked all that from public view! Two,you can see Bush, clinton , and Bush's writing online! Three, Iam a black man you ditz so how does that blows the race card you socialist libs just love to play when it comes to facts! jast cuz iz don't spell god nuff for yo, Maybe I just try to be a phonee like hussain oBAMA and hillary does when they are in front of certain crowds!
Leona,,,Just the class one expects from a socialist lib oBAMAzombie!
Hate to tell you this, Thunder, but you don't have to be white to be a racist. You can be black and hate blacks. (Think, Clarence Thomas.) You can be gay and hate gays. You can be Asian and hate Asians. And on it goes. I still think you're racist.
Can't wait to see what Romney is hiding I bet it is something that will blow our minds, like how he benefited from the financial crash, or how much he made sending our jobs overseas, or maybe it's where he is hiding his money so he won't get taxed. We already know what a slime ball Gingrich is. I hate how we still use this labels like governor and speaker when these people have not held these positions in years.
If you put all the gaffs of oBAMA/biden has made, the wrong decisions, and record the absolute stupidity they show the world, you would be typeing a book bigger then war and peace! What will be the "gotcha" questions NBC will ask? Boxers or briefs? Contraceptives? How about the real issues on why hussain oBAMA wastes money sueing states trying to do the things the fed do not, slush funds, why oBAMA does NOT WANT to create jobs for Americans, etc,etc!
Just a little history lesson:
Top 10 Accomplishments of George W. Bush and Why We Are In A Mess Now
Jesse Walker | July 13, 2004
If you're looking for reasons to be disgusted with George W. Bush, here are the top 10:
1. The war in Iraq. Over a thousand soldiers and counting have died to subdue a country that was never a threat to the United States. Now we're trapped in an open-ended conflict against a hydra-headed enemy, while terrorism around the world actually increases.
One of the silliest arguments for the invasion held that our presence in Iraq was a "flypaper" attracting the world's terrorists to one distant spot. At this point, it's pretty clear that if there's a flypaper in Baghdad, the biggest bug that's stuck to it is the U.S.A.
2. Abu Ghraib. And by "Abu Ghraib" I mean all the places where Americans have tortured detainees, not just the prison that gave the scandal its name. While there are still people who claim that this was merely a matter of seven poorly supervised soldiers "abusing" (not torturing!) some terrorists, it's clear now that the abuse was much more widespread; that it included rape, beatings, and killings; that the prison population consisted overwhelmingly of innocents and petty crooks, not terrorists; and that the torture very likely emerged not from the unsupervised behavior of some low-level soldiers, but from policies set at the top levels of the Bush administration. Along the way, we discovered that the administration's lawyers believe the president has the power to unilaterally suspend the nation's laws—a policy that, if taken seriously, would roll back the central principle of the Glorious Revolution.
Baldeagle,,,All you can do is copy some other socialist libs ignorance with your half truths! Try Irag with how many U.N. sactions ignored(duh 13 plus) and every leader on board with us INCLUDING Hillary, Ried, Piglosi,etc and where was the daily body count on oBamas watch as there was on G. Bush'S! Abu Ghraib,,,Is that closed yet? And if you want to see REAL torture,check out the Danial Pearl murder and see what kind of animals we deal with! Why don't you quote the wonderfull saddam and his boys did like rape rooms, dipping people in acid, rapeing mothers and daughters in front of their fathers, or killing the parents and dismembering them in front of their children! Now Joe bite-me said the talabhan is not our enenmie after 3000 plus people were murdered on 9/11! So keep quoteing your prophets and hide from the TRUTH! abo 2012!
Bald..
Add another to your list
Afgan - Unocal asked that Afgan be stabilized so it could build a intercontinental gas pipeline across the country and wouldn't do it until someone (the US) could protect the companies interests; provide protection for machinery, men and supplies.
Period.
We are in Afgan because of money pure and simple.
This is why I am an Ex-Republican.
They disguise unherald support for private industries both foreign and domestic which has resulted in bankrupting the nation and call it as Patriotism....and some people believe it.
So what happens if Newt wins, Mitt 2nd and Colbert/Cain 3rd Santorum 4th and Paul 5th.
It would be a freaking joke. Will the constitution allow the election to be cancelled?
Why is it always the socialist libs that talk about canceling election? They are the very ones trying every way to change, tear up, go around the constitution and Bill of Rights as they try and legislate from the bench!
Another episode of Republicans Forgot Talent
hey fiesty i see you cute little liberal comments but i don't see any facts to back up
your liberal BS like psmnbc and mr occupy communist.
NOBOMBO 2012! now go eat another fatburger if Michelle allows you too!
or go drive you little green car that runs on fairty farts in your socialistopia fairyland!
GoodvsEvil
In your informed opinion, as Canada has a medicare system for all, is Canada a socialist country? We in the north share many political views with Europe.
Good vs evil,,,,feisty only gets her news from sargent "slut" shultz and rick madcow! That is a lot of occupy kool-aid being fed to her!
WOW!
Talk about an oxymoron - old goodvsevil has opinions all right, although, I would hardly call them 'informed'...
Feisty ... after I quietly slip my knife twixt his ribs and backbone, separate the ox and the moron so to speak, you may flay him as you choose.
Can I serve him up with a nice Chianti & some fava beans? ;o)
It's the Ditto Head Republicandroids turn to share their shallow grime with readers that end up worrying about the educational system and lead in the environment.
Yesterday, on another thread, a regular conservative poster stated his opinion that those on the right seem to approach things from a more "cerebral" place (if I understood his post correctly).
Thunder, GoodvsEvil, et al, blow that theory away!
comfortablynumb-3440920
That would depend on where their cerebellum is located.
ideology,
so true.
Thunder, just trying to save you GOP the emabarassment.
Rich, forget it. the GOP base is beyond embarrassment. They're mostly uneducated white trash. They don't have a clue.
rbell,,,and you accuse the teaparty of being racist? That out of an uneducated socialist lib democrat moron! I have seen better heads on flat beer when it comes to your type little buttbuddy!
Thunder, Many in the so-called tea party are racist. I heard them speak. I have no idea of your level of education, but judging from your posts, you might have graduated from sixth grade. I don't know you but you seem to be a bitter man, just hanging on to life. Your anger is symptomatic of a person with no future. In other words, you're a loser, not worthy of participating in any rational debate. My advise to you is to study for your GED and try to better yourself. Life can be rewarding when you are enlightened.
Rbell,,I just look at the source and I don't feel bad. Look at your next to last post and you are too ignorant to understand mine. I, myself do not feel sorry for ignorant people like yourself that is sitting in your mommies basement with your tinfoil hat waiting for good weather to break out your vespa and cruise the parks to pick up another nazi endorsed "occupier". Have a good life!
Thunder, for your information, I live in a very nice house that is paid for. People like yourself, sadly, are the ones trolling the streets, angry and disillusioned looking for a friend. I have no need to cruise the parks, seeking companionship. Unlike you, I have an active social life. I pity you in your misery. Try getting out and meet some people. It may help you.
Every one of those running would be a step up from an America bashing, illegal loving, tax hiking, food stamp record breaking, money wasteing, lobster eating, job killing, military hateing, continue golf and vacation taking, class and race warfare playing puke of a president we have now!!!
you forgot to say he's also a watermelon eating black man. By the way, don't you have spell checker? Get your GED if you want to have any credibility.
Come on Thunder, you really can't belive half of what you have written, at least if you have a lick of sense. I'd bet that you are not in the 1% and just maybe you are or could be the one of the recipients of food stamps. (nothing to be ashamed of) What I can't fathom is someone like you supporting the GOP.
Rich, sadly, he probably does believe the BS he writes. This is the problem with our country today. Uneducated angry mostly white men who think they're entitled to a good life by virtue of their heritage. They ignored the realities of the new economic paradigm and are out of the mainstream.
Rich,,,if there is anyone on food stamps,it is the ones supporting the food stamp president hussain oBAMA!
thunder #'s,
If English is NOT your second language,
and if you are NOT one of those who writes like he talks,
and if you are NOT developmentally disabled and just doing the best you can to communicate,
then,
you are clearly dumber than dirt.
Under Newt, the republicans got back power after forty years of being out of control of congress... Just how has that turned out for America? The evangelicals started getting involved in the politics of this country during Barry Goldwater run for the white house against LBJ...
Ever since then this country has gone down hill... with the few exceptions of when the likes of Bill Clinton got the country back on track ending with a surplus... Not the kind of debt we have now...
headnumb,,,But unlike you I work for a living no matter how hard oBAMA is trying to change that and raise the price of gas to hurt every hardworking person in this country! Never said I was intelligent but unlike you I do have common sense and am not blinded by the lib kool-aid fed to me by these fake news outlets like MSDNC! Look at these last bunch of posts and I've been called a number of things including being racist to oBAMA! I'am a black man who has never collected unemployment or any type of welfare in my life, own my house and in the off time, take my girlfriend on a harley run with friends (some are libs too)! figure if I'am "dumber then dirt", that is twice the logic I see you socialist lib mooching democrats have!!! ANYONE BUT oBAMA 2012!
Hahahahaha,,,,,,,,,,Exactly why anyone with a brain should be running away from the Republican party
Do your "lib" friends know that you think they are socialist moochers?
I have a job, I am not a liberal, a democrat, nor a socialist, and you are marginally literate.
All Republicans are abortions of humanity.Human blood suckers.
My takeaway from the primary
1. Don't take the family sedan to the destruction derby, with or without a dog on top.
Two Bit Mitts thought he could cruise to Tampa in the family Mercedes until he ran into the Appalachian moonshiner, Duke driving a modified 68 Dodge Charger. No contest, especially along the SC NC border where Newter whopped him 2 to 1.
The new GOP is the party of blue collar (or no collar wife beater T-shirts) who are really not much interested in scholarly economic debates or business experience. They see themselves as outsiders who don't have a dog in this government fight. They are tuned to the dog whistle frequency anti-establishment code words that resonate with their personal biases.
They are the party of Richard Nixon; his story was the Commies are taking over America.
2. Don't confuse Evangelical Christianity with Christian morality. Spending one hour a week in church does not a moral person make.
Evangelical Christianity has more to do with fitting into a community than expressing moral values.
3. Two Bit Mitts Mormon problem is real.
Months into the primary and we know NOTHING about policies they would change, How they plan to increase employment chances, How they would expand the economy, So far all they have done throughout the debate has been prove NONE of these clowns are electable and/or qualified to be President of the USA.
Right now we have had 22 months of economic growth and 15 months of job growth with Republican politicians fighting it all the way, Just think if they were all helping to fix what their policies screwed up.
There's no substitute like a good ole "Punch in the Nose". And that's what Newt did yesterday to Mitt. As he promised he would after the way Romney did him with all of those negative attack adds in Iowa. Now hopefully the gloves will come and stay off. And so much for the GOPs 11th commandment... Bah what a bunch of baloney... But even after all is said and done. How can any decent person with any type of moral beliefs vote for the GOP. Just think about what your trying to accomplish by voting for them. And then ask yourself this, do you really want a vulture capitalist in the Whitehouse. Or even better a known skirt-chasing right-wing reject from his own party, tackling these serious issues of today. Caused by their own party while obstructing everything in their power to keep this economy down in the dumps. After all that is the platform that they are running on. And their agenda is to add only failed policies of the past yet bringing nothing new to the table... Go Figure...
"Conniving Carpet Bagger from Pennsylvania takes dim witted southerners for a ride....falsely claims "southern" roots"
news at 11
I'd very much like to see Congressman Wilson do a reprise and call Obama a liar again. Obama is a liar. Mr. Wilson made the right call. Wilson can still respect the office and call out the individual occupant who is, in fact, a liar.
i agree .... it was also kind of funny