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Subscribe to RSSGREENVILLE, S.C. -- The folks at Tommy's Country Ham House in Greenville are expecting a record crowd Saturday morning, and the mob's not coming for the grits.
In a state famous for its bizarre brand of Republican politics, mere hours after polls open in South Carolina, the primary's two frontrunners are hosting dueling campaign events at the restaurant over breakfast. Same time. Same place.
Call it the Ham House Showdown.
Incredulous reporters first thought there was a mistake. Both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney scheduled events at Tommy's Country Ham House in Greenville, S.C., at 10:45 a.m. ET Saturday. For Romney, the event will be his final public appearance before results are announced Saturday night.
Not quite a duel at high noon, but close.
The Gingrich campaign put their public schedule on their website roughly an hour before the Romney campaign emailed out theirs to reporters. Now, neither campaign is backing down.
"We have had this event on the books. Our schedule went out first. We are confirmed at our event," Gingrich campaign spokesman, Nathan Naidu, told reporters aboard the USS Yorktown following a Gingrich event. "We are more than happy if Gov. Romney would like to join us at our event and have some ham."
A Romney aide said: "It is pure coincidence the events were scheduled at the same time and we are not changing our schedule."
The Gingrich spokesman added, "We are more than happy to treat Gov. Romney to ham at our event."
Reporters were told that Caroline Vinvick, Gingrich's Greenville regional director, called and woke up the owner of the restaurant, Tommy Stevenson, Friday night. He said none of Romney's people has contacted him about an event. The Gingrich campaign is confirmed for 10:45 a.m. ET, Stevenson reassured Vinvick. Meanwhile, outside Romney's rally Friday night in Greenville, volunteers were overheard telling supporters to head to Tommy's Saturday morning to support Romney.
National media -- seizing on the opportunity for pithy, ham-related headlines and the potential for a political showdown that could rival any from the debate stage this season -- are preparing to flock to the restaurant Saturday morning.
Some may want to bring helmets to prepare for what could be a dangerously packed house. All will bring their appetites.
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Tommy's Ham House? How perfectly fitting!
I couldn't have said it better.
If Gingrich get's elected, I hope you lot like Carbon Taxes.
I'm picturing the Boar's Nest on Dukes of Hazard, with Gingrich as Boss Hog. Romney would be Roscoe turned against him because he wouldn't share his food.
Food Fight!
Go for the livermush, boys! That's exactly what they are offering up ...
I sure would love to attend to see these two in action. Each trying to outdo the other. There's nothing like a good laugh and meal to get your day going. It's no coincidence. After all, Gingrich did offer Romney a one-on-one debate. Well, here's his chance. Curtains up! Let's get ready to rumble.
Thel4ugh!ngm@n
Go sleep it off, dude, some aspirin and water will make you feel better tomorrow.
Gingrich better don't show up at the Ham House snacking on a big red apple for breakfast!
Our modern US Political campaigns rival those of 3rd. World Countries like Cuba, Mexico or Venezuela,
Don't they?
Ham is what Gingrich will turn into, if he does not get elected. ha ha ha Someone called the fairy yet?
Newt
Quit on first wife with cancer
Quit on second wife with M/S
Thrid wife better hope she doesn't come down with an illness because he will quit on her.
Pre-existing conditions. I'll bet he left them because he did not want to pay the medical bills because he knew he could not get insurance for them.
Open marrige, orgy in the White House if elected.
He will quit on the American People also.
Willard
Hides his money off shore.
Might or might not show taxes.
Multi-Millionaire know what it is like to fear losing job. Yeah Right. Born with golden spoon stuck up his butt.
Rick
My religion says you will do what I tell you. Nevermind that you don't believe the way I believe.
Ron
Completely out of touch with the real world.
Republicans
Never admitting that they had anything to do with what President Obama had to deal with.
Voted NO even on their own ideas because President Obama agreed with them.
Obama/Biden 2012
Interesting point here, since I live in Greenville: Right next door to the Ham House is the Triune Mercy Center which is a church that helps the area homeless. Wonder if either candidate will walk over and stop there?
yee-haw! then they can go chew some tobacky and hump their sisters!
it's great that the 49th least-educated state has such a say in who becomes president.
I'm assuming all the candidates have kissed alot of a** on the bob jones university campus, gotta get that crazy racist vote...
Way out yonder, where the hogs and elephants roam.
Newt already did that once. But considering it was because he'd been fined $300K by his own party for 84 ethics violations, it was probably a wise decision. And that fact that he's a front-runner for the GOP nomination 13 years after the same party forced him to resign says way more about the current GOP than it does about Newt.
The man made a contract with a woman to love, honor and obey - three times.
He chose to break the promise twice. The really scary thing is that cheering hoardes of SC voters seem willing to entrust him with the nuclear button.
He is a dangerous, dangerous man.
Political Connections
By Ronald Brownstein
The Color Line
Why the nation’s politics may increasingly resemble South Carolina’s.
COLUMBIA,S.C.—Race is no longer as overt a factor in South Carolina politics as it was when Strom Thurmond, who is memorialized in a statue looming over the state Capitol complex here, quit the Democratic Party for the GOP after Congress passed the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Yet race remains embedded in the state’s political DNA. The role of race in South Carolina politics has moved far beyond the civil-rights era’s questions of explicit discrimination. Today, whether openly discussed or not, race is central to the clash between Democrats and Republicans over taxes and spending.
In that way, far more than in the days of the backlash against integration, the state previews what national politics will increasingly resemble if it continues along its current trajectory.
The dominant fact of South Carolina politics is racial polarization. In the 2008 general election, Barack
Obama won 96 percent of the state’s African-American vote, but John McCain carried 73 percent of its white voters. That wasn’t an anomaly rooted in Obama’s race: In 2004, George W. Bush won an even higher percentage of the state’s white voters (78) against John Kerry. And in the 2010 governor’s race,
Indian-American Nikki Haley carried 70 percent of whites in the Republican’s narrow victory over Vincent Sheheen, a centrist white Democratic state senator.
Sheheen, meanwhile, won 94 percent of the black vote. In Saturday’s critical GOP presidential primary, whites will likely cast more than 95 percent of the ballots (although they represent only about two-thirds of the state’s population).
wow. ragging on the people of South Carolina. You people make me sick.
yeah, I guess blatant infidelity is no longer a problem in the bible belt...
newt's not even a decent human being, let alone a decent candidate...
You need to check your facts on why Newt was sanctioned 300k. All but 1 of the 84 charges were dropped against Newt. The IRS determined the last one regarding tax fraud was baseless as well. If you are gonna throw mud, make sure it's made of dirt will ya?
All personal attacks from the left (big surprise) when you have nothing else I guess that is all you got. If your current President has to run on his record he will stumble..big time. The conservatives are willing to accept a man like Gingrich for 2 reasons...one, anything is better than the inexperience of Barrack Obama and two, we all want to see a debate between Newt and Obama. Priceless!!!!
what about the admitted infidelity? hope you never get cancer and your mate leaves you for someone else...I repeat, not even a decent human being, let alone candidate...
and santorum, wants to watch you and your wife do it in your bedroom
and romney, the massachusetts liberal utah mormon...
what a bunch of crap...
clearly the republican party is the ones with nothing else...
Well, Santorum is Catholic, isn't he? That means he can do nasty stuff all week as long as he goes to confession, everything will be forgiven.
As for Tommy's Ham House - Tommy, please put both of these elephants on a skewer and roast them overnight and on Sunday. Everyone show up on Monday for a big, big feast.
PS - there are some really good people in SC (probably Democrats) as well as some total wackos.
@Watt,
A debate between Obama and Newt? When Newt says stuff like this: "I want to shift the entire planet, and I'm doing it. I am now a famous person. I represent real power." It's hard to argue on that level of stupid.
Yes, let's see a debate with Obama, then Newt can explain to an African American to his face why he thinks the African American community is all on food stamps. I'd also like to see how he wins the Latino vote, after saying Spanish is the language of the ghetto.
I hope the nominee is Newt.
-Obama 2012-
northernlights4metooplease...
I know, you're right, I painted with a pretty broad brush. I actually lived in the Cack for 15 years, have immediate family and lots of friends there. Lots of great people, and Charleston's pretty awesome.
I lived in Greenville for 2 years and it scared the crap out of me...
(about the education issue, too bad the lottery money didn't fix the schools like it was supposed to, like to find that money trail...)
back on point, these candidates are really weak... lack of decent people in the upper ranks of govt.
Mr. Lowlife Newt said my Tiffany's account is for my hogs.
Laura- Yes, Gingrich had all but 1 charge against him dropped. That still leaves him as the only Speaker of the House to have been charged and so sanctioned in US History.
Having 83 out of 84 charges dropped is hardly something to crow about.
watt75
All personal attacks from the left (big surprise) when you have nothing else I guess that is all you got. If your current President has to run on his record he will stumble..big time. The conservatives are willing to accept a man like Gingrich for 2 reasons...one, anything is better than the inexperience of Barrack Obama and two, we all want to see a debate between Newt and Obama. Priceless!!!
The way I see it they don't need any attacks from the left, They are doing just fine bringing out the true dirt on each other. I hope that they keep up the personal attacks on each other. Just let each camp dig up all the trash they can. We are getting to see the republican party implode on it's self. I think it's just rich.... Pun intended, That they are attacking each other like savage dogs after the last scraps of meat. The don't need no stinking help from the left. They are doing just fine at shooting their selves in the foot/feet..... Talk about a firing squad formed in a circle.... LOL.
one, anything is better than the inexperience of Barrack Obama and two, we all want to see a debate between Newt and Obama. Priceless!!!
One....some folks will fall for anything that comes their way.... Two..... It's just like the rupublican party to send a deffenceless person into battle.
Lmao....But But But.....whadda about....... and whadda about. I hope Gingrich doesnt win or all your Libs will have to watch Callista everyday. 3 weeks tops and the liberals will be throwing them selves of cliffs everywhere. lol! This is the best site ever....never fails to make me smile.
Newt and Obama debate is all you people care about!
Has Newt told you yet how he will govern?
I do not care about a debate.
No governing message - no vote.
Obama 2012
Laura,
[You need to check your facts on why Newt was sanctioned 300k. All but 1 of the 84 charges were dropped against Newt.]
No one is disputing the facts as to why Noot was sanctioned $300k...he was given an ultimatum: Pay up and resign or face the consequences. And all this from HIS OWN PARTY.
See, he's a Catholic now...he should know that for all his sins, he has to pay the price. His price to pay will be to face the public scrutiny and subsequent humiliation.
Sure, God forgives him...but he just doesn't understand that with forgiveness comes a price, and THAT is what it means to be Catholic. Just because you are forgiven doesn't mean you don't have to pay the price.
Noot is paying that price: Noot will never be president.
PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE ... Have "The definitely not coordinating with Stephen Colbert Super PAC" schedule a flash-mob campaign rally at 10:50 PM ET at the same location.
My feelings exactly Tom. Two of the biggest hams to ever run for the GOP nomination. There is no shortage of unwarranted, over-inflated ego between those two.
When you're right, you're right.
Gingrich has the nerve to blame the media for his cheating on the wife he was cheating with on his previous wife, with his third wife. This is especially amazing, after he made oral sex a conversation everyone had to have with their children over a 2 year period, while he was banging his third wife, while married (sort of) to his second wife. What sort of twisted ego turns his own massive hypocrisy into the media's problem?
Willard, on the other hand, seems to have all his money in offshore accounts, like the mafia, and crooks all over the country (and in other countries), but he wants to run the U.S., because his business experience is better then the president that has turned the economy into a growing concern again. This idea reminds me of putting Bernie Madoff in charge of your investments after we put him in jail.
Stick a fork in the Republican presidential campaign.
However, I say, let the giant, awkward ventriloquist's dummy and the Satanic Stay-Pufft Marshmallow Man chow down on some pork, because they've paid millions and millions for that meal.
What I found particularly disturbing about the debate in SC was when asked about his his ex wifes claim that gingrich asked her for an open(adulterous) marriage and when newt snapped at the moderator saying he thought that type of question should be off limits, that the audience of republicans cheered wildly in support of newts behavior? These are so called christians with christian values? I found that adulterous behavior despicable with clinton and find it equally despicable with gingrich.
G-Man, first of all Newt didn't "snap" at the moderator. He was asked if he would like to comment on the reports and Newt replied, "No, but I will". The question asked of him was inappropriate, plain and simple. Newt was on the money when he replied that the media plays a big part in the inability of people wanting to get into politics. I guess the big difference with Christians and non Christians is that we understand that we are not perfect, that we make mistakes in judgment all the time. But we also understand that we don't need to answer to man's judgment, we answer to the Living God whose only son died on the cross for all of our sins, past, present and future. Have a blessed day!
BS Peggy... THAT is a bunch of tea-rnc spin and half truth:
Come on... what did YOU do to President Clinton back in the 90's Newter? You wern't appalled at asking a sitting President about details of HIS sex life, so don't be appalled when you are asked.
YOU and your GOP buddies set the precedent with Clinton, so DON'T WHINE AND COMPLAIN WHEN YOU GET THE SAME TREATMENT! If its good for the goose...
Suck it up, face the music, and ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!
(And the really sad part is that Mittens is the BIG flip-flopper.)
So, Peggy, how do you make your hypocritical claim
When interrogating a SITTING PRESIDENT about HIS personal, private sex life is condoned?
Boy, you got that right!!!
Well, at least I can agree with some of what you say.
I find this whole South Carolina thing a mockery of common sense. It's not just about the Stay Puff mans infedelity, it is about his whole character. This man is the epitimy of Narcisism at its finest and we don't need any more kings in the capitol. The people of SC ought to be ashamed that they are hosting such a farce. A smart assed quip and the ability to whip out zingers and stand there with a big fat belly poking out bullying narrators does not qualify this idea a minute, career polititian to run our country and turn its economy around. Yes Romney is a bit stiff necked but he has answered the question on abortion to most peoples satisfaction. He had the guts to turn it down because they wanted to kill embryo's for science.
And; What the hell is this thing with showing taxes? No one has yet to explain to me what that has to do with anything. He has already filed full dsiclosure and income tax is a private matter and under our constitution, we all have a right to privacy. I am sure he has a whole floor of a major CPA firm dotting all the I's and crossing all the T's to make sure he is paying his full share of income tax. Ya know, a 250 million dollar net worth ain't bad and that is the kind of man I want in office to deal with the economic mess that Obama has gotten us in. Lets not lose sight of the goal here. We need a man in office who can run this nation like a big business and not a beaurocracy, We need a man with common sense, not man who can debate with belligernace and belicose one liners.
Peggy; the question to Newt was appropriate because if you recall, Newt made "family values" an issue when he went after Clinton. When these people decide that they want to enter the public arena and get into positions that affect our lives, they should be scrutinized and well vetted. True christians have always understood that nobody is perfect and shouldn't have to answer to man's judgment, but this is exacty what this guy did; he went after Clinton relentlessly, which was well deserved, while all along engaging in the same behavior that he was using his bully pulpit to speak against! Newt needs to be held accountable for what he did and those who applauded his response or would try to make excuses for his behavior or inappropriate behavior should take a second look at themselves. Don't allow this guy to hide behind religion now that the shoe is on the other foot. Does hypocrisy sound fitting? Have yourself a blessed day.
That's only after you've been put in the ground not while you are live and kicking and still cheating on everybody including your wife(s). I know some criminals who've did their time and can't get a job because they were convicted criminals. If we hold their past records against them why "pray" tell can't we hold a politicians record against him if he applyig for a job as President of the United States. The Leopard doesn't change his spots because he moves from one part of the forest to the open savannah. I do not condemn a man for his past transgressions if he shows promise of change, but I see no change in attitude of any of the Republican candidates from their past performances as projected into the present and quite possibly into the future. From what I see and read it is vacciliation, back biting, inuendo, blame and worship of the great God money. I need as many of my fellow Americans do, positive proposed actions to bring us out of our economic situation. Our moral values will take care of themselves on a full belly.
I thought you only went out to the "ham house" to smoke one?
wow, peggy, you have the gall to spout christianity crap and endorse a serial adulterer in the same post? you'd better be going to the alter at church tomorrow. religion and politics are both full of sh*t.
I guess another big difference between christians and non-christians is that non-christians can see right through that religious bullsh*t...
Jesus died on the cross for you to stick up for a man who has left multiple spouses at their greatest time of need...
sorry folks but newts reply was on target and the moderators question out of the gate was not. No one can deny that newt has baggage and his treatment of his past wives as cavalie rat best. First we are talking about an ex wife's statement that can't be verified outside of she said/he said and secondly on the timing of the allegation.
Commonsence, Appropriate implies that the moderator would also ask the others on their past marital affairs. The appropriate question would have been couched in how each candidate felt about family values, Folks, we are talking about political maneuvering here not to mentiion a woman getting even..
Regardless, it is months to the nominating convention and if south carolina approves of newt I predict that their unblemished record since 1980 (?) of always picking the GOP nominee will end.
G-man- that's because Gingrich is a master at playing the base. He knew that question was coming and had the response prepared- avoid the issue and attack the media, which southern republicans love to do. So he was just feeding red meat to the crowd.
He performed a classic political maneuver- "attack from a defensive position", by turning the question into a diatribe on the media, in a classic play to the base; and the true believers in the audience ate it up.
When he was dragging the nation thru 2 years of an attempted impeachment of Clinton and the "blue dress affair", apparently that was OK to have in media on a daily basis. Now that they want to focus on him, suddenly it's "despicable".
Holy sh*t, Peggy. Christians make mistakes, but a real Christian sure as hell knows that adultery is one of the foremost wrongs forbidden! Newt did it twice.
At least that arrogant man can acknowledge his past actions and views of marriage and women was wrong and take it today like a man. Romney admitted his past views on abortion were wrong, and he's since changed for the better sicne the mid 1990s. He's owned that, but does get haranged for being a "flip-flop" on that moral issue. At least he changed for the better.
May I ask why did you answer to G-Man's judgment rather than direct your answer to God and ask him to help G-Man to understand your point of views?
Hmmmm you may want to check your pre christ history. Back then the tribes of descendants had many wifes, some quite related. Man has practiced this as a way to increase their numbers.
Two Ham's getting together to out-Ham each other?
Romney grits and Ginger(ich) TEA. People might need a good dose of Santorum after this ...
It's more like two dogs getting together for a dog fight.
Hey what about the eggs?
Oh that's already on Obama's ridiculous face... Haw! Haw! Haw! *chortle*
Romney likes his ham fried first, flipped in the pan at least 20 times
then, right before he eats it, he trades it in for a newer, more tender piece....
Gingrich has to make his own ham and cook it, because he knows how past cooks have done it, he contributed to that graet ham, and knows how to make the best ham today.
A cooperate-raider dropping in on anothers scheduled event...
Normal actions of a crook, stealing from others...
The Republicans own actions are giving this election to Obama...
Yeah, about to steal away Gingrich's supporters in the name of help, to increase his number of votes, leaving Gingrich with nothing but hope and a prayer. Is anything off limits with this corporate-raider?
wow all the mindless attacks just goes to show you how desperate the left is getting...makes my day!
wow all the mindless attacks just goes to show you how desperate the left is getting...makes my day!
Wow, all the mindless attacks- just goes to show you how desperate the right is getting... happy to correct that for you.
The Grinch and Mister 1%- Together in Person- This One Time Only!!!
Quick. Get the net.
"The Grinch" is also a 1%. Unless you think earning $3.1 million makes Newt an average-Joe, middle class American...
G-d, I'm laughing at you liberal pricks on this post. Typical no nothing rants.
...
game,
Correct...And KNOW nothing rants...................
Bernie? If you cannot see the humour in this then maybe you are the Prick.
Bet there will be a lot of something other than grits flying? Wear your helmits or you might end up with "brown hair".
Will MSNBC ever poke fun at an Obama event???????
The daily targeting of each possible candidate with the hope of chipping away the vote potential is hilarious. The things the libral media picks at on the GOP side but never the chosen one has gotten very old & the only thing transparent about the Obama presidency.
Come on DaBird and the rest of you so called conservatives, lighten up. This is the funniest thing so far this campaign season. The irony of it, two hams holding an event at the same time at a ham restaurant! LOLOLOL. Hey, you got to say one thing, they are both already creating jobs. Tommy's Country Ham House will have to add more staff as this will be the newest tourist trap in the country. Is this a coordinated effort to take the focus off the primary itself? All the news outlets will be covering this event all day so the campaigns can lose even more precinct ballots. What a bunch of clowns. You just can't make this stuff up.
Birdie is crying that the "liberal media picks at the GOP side." boo hoo!
Maybe I'd get out my violin if I didn't know that the right wing noise machine (Fox Noos, Limbaugh, Hannity) has been tearing down Obama every single day since he was elected. They even complain when he does the same thing previous presidents have done.
Put on your man pants, birdie.
The Grinch will order green eggs and ham, Then the Spaminator will take of his Mittens:
I am Spaminator
I am Spaminator
Spaminator I am
That Spaminator-I-am
That Spaminator-I-am!
I do not like
that Spaminator-I-am
Do you like
green eggs and ham
I do not like them,
Spaminator-I-am.
I do not like
green eggs and ham.
Would you like them
Here or there?
I would not like them
here or there.
I would not like them
anywhere.
I do not like
green eggs and ham.
I do not like them,
Spaminator-I-am
Would you like them
in a house?
Would you like them
with a mouse?
I do not like them
in a house.
I do not like them
with a mouse.
I do not like them
here or there.
I do not like them
anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Spaminator-I-am.
Would you eat them
in a box?
Would you eat them
with a fox?
Not in a box.
Not with a fox.
Not in a house.
Not with a mouse.
I would not eat them here or there.
I would not eat them anywhere.
I would not eat green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Spaminator-I-am.
Would you? Could you?
in a car?
Eat them! Eat them!
Here they are.
I would not ,
could not,
in a car
You may like them.
You will see.
You may like them
in a tree?
d not in a tree.
I would not, could not in a tree.
Not in a car! You let me be.
I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them with a fox
I do not like them in a house
I do mot like them with a mouse
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Spaminator-I-am.
A train! A train!
A train! A train!
Could you, would you
on a train?
Not on a train! Not in a tree!
Not in a car! Spaminator! Let me be!
I would not, could not, in a box.
I could not, would not, with a fox.
I will not eat them with a mouse
I will not eat them in a house.
I will not eat them here or there.
I will not eat them anywhere.
I do not like them, Spaminator-I-am.
Say!
In the dark?
Here in the dark!
Would you, could you, in the dark?
I would not, could not,
in the dark.
Would you, could you,
in the rain?
I would not, could not, in the rain.
Not in the dark. Not on a train,
Not in a car, Not in a tree.
I do not like them, Spaminator, you see.
Not in a house. Not in a box.
Not with a mouse. Not with a fox.
I will not eat them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere!
You do not like
green eggs and ham?
I do not
like them,
Spaminator-I-am.
Could you, would you,
with a goat?
I would not,
could not.
with a goat!
Would you, could you,
on a boat?
I could not, would not, on a boat.
I will not, will not, with a goat.
I will not eat them in the rain.
I will not eat them on a train.
Not in the dark! Not in a tree!
Not in a car! You let me be!
I do not like them in a box.
I do not like them with a fox.
I will not eat them in a house.
I do not like them with a mouse.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them ANYWHERE!
I do not like
green eggs
and ham!
I do not like them,
Spaminator-I-am.
You do not like them.
SO you say.
Try them! Try them!
And you may.
Try them and you may I say.
Spaminator!
If you will let me be,
I will try them.
You will see.
Say!
I like green eggs and ham!
I do!! I like them, Spaminator-I-am!
And I would eat them in a boat!
And I would eat them with a goat...
And I will eat them in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
They are so good so good you see!
So I will eat them in a box.
And I will eat them with a fox.
And I will eat them in a house.
And I will eat them with a mouse.
And I will eat them here and there.
Say! I will eat them ANYWHERE!
I do so like
green eggs and ham!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Spaminator-I-am
Heck, the media didn't make this stuff up. If you read about this primary contest in a book you would have to say the author was smoking a bit too much of something.
I came to the conclusion that we hire politicians for their entertainment value durring the Nixon administration and haven't changed my opinion of the political classes much since then (although they have been getting more and more well paid since that time). I do fear that if we hire any of the guys running in the Republican party this time out the US will become the comedy center of the world and the entertainment will not be just for internal consumption.
Politicians seem to hate it when they bomb so they Bomb.
You know - even the liberal media can't make up this stuff ...
The Nixon administration was scary as @!$%# compared to the clowns in the GOP race now. Even today I wouldn't want to meet Kissinger in a dark alley. However, if I met Perry in one I would only be worried about dying of laughter.
and we are in stiches over rumhead and grinch
And we are laughing at you and the circus, say? 5yrs now? Get a grip.
Well it's just going to look awfully silly to pit somebody who has admittedly cheated and been divorced twice to represent the party of "family values" against a "progressive liberal" ...who hasn't cheated and has his original family intact...
HYPOCRISY BEYOND BELIEF!
The old saying....doing it is not the wrong....getting caught is the crime and Romney has enough money to keep his dirty laundry hidden from the public. He is human too, believe or not.
He keeps his money hidden offshore. Hidden from taxes.
No, he "invests" offshore. If it were hidden you wouldn't know it was there. He's already paid taxes on those earnings. By investing funds offshore he is not taxed for contributions, but he still taxed on any trust's income, (revenue made from investments of the trust), even if that income has not been distributed. More than half of the world's assets and investments are held in offshore jurisdictions. It protect assets from lawsuits more than anything else. When you have that type of income, you have to diversify to protect your assets. Pretty much commonsense for anyone that is saving or investing.
So he earns money, he's taxed on those earning, he contributes to a fund offshore, the money he was taxed on isn't taxed again, he earns income from that trust investment, he's taxed on that income. So where are those "hidden" taxes. All you individuals that are complaining about this, lets face it, if you had money you'd be doing the same thing! It's a smart investment decision.
Yeah.......The newt and brightest Family Value Candidate representing America. Trash um and Dump um. Who the heck needs um......glory glory halaluya....faith family country. yee hah
If Sh it Romney wins the nomination is he gonna send those kids on 10 speed bikes in white shirts & ties to tell people besides an additional "bible" being written there is also an additional "constitution written...?
And then is he gonna have 10 wives living with him...
And Gingrich is somehow different? While Santorum may not have 10 wives he definitely has disdain for the constitution. Gingrich, Santorum and Romney will live for lobbyist dollars.
But we can't say anything about Obama's Muslim childhood, & the years he lived in other countries????
Your point is DaBird? Do you still believe he is a Muslim? An if so, what is the matter with that? He also had a white Christian mother who did a lot of work with the peace corps and was mostly raised by white Christian grandparents.
I, for one, wish ALL the candidates would release their college records, ALL of them. I think they should ALL release their birth certificates. Remember John McCain? He wasn't 'born' in the United States.
BTW, you can say all you want about Obama, we, and he aren't that thin skinned!
Still crying about "the liberal media" birdie? Put on your man pants.
Let's see. It is known Obama said he was a foreign student, to get into an Ivy league college. or did he lie?
No one remembers him from grade school, or high school. His long birth form has yet to be produced, even though Obama said it would be. His grades while in college have been sealed at his request.
His father and grandmother were Marxists, his mother a socialist. His pastor for 20 years a raving racist, but we can be sure none of that wore off on him. Every time he is criticized, he says it is Bush's fault, or the critic is racist.
he has failed to keep 10 of the 11 promises he made to get elected ( did get most of the troops out of Iraq by 2011).
Are you better off today than you were three years ago? Honest answer says no. But the hope and change is still there. We hope things will change for the better. Wait till he starts spending the 1 billion dollar campaign money he is raising. Of course, 66 million + people will have donated $15.00 each. No corporate or union money for him, nor any of those nasty lobbiests.
My opinion? Neither Obama or any other politician is fit to serve this country. Mark Twain said " we have the best government money can buy".
Oldman
Have you been drinking again?
oldman young eyes,
One thing that has come out, concerning Obama's college history...
He was the first person to become elected by popular vote, to be president of 'Harvards Law Review' without having any published works. Just another minority promotion to make the Libs happy...
Hey Believe---the answers to your questions are (1) obviously no, and (2) obviously no. But they are funny anyway.
Who knows, he hasn't been to church since he took office. Frankly whether he's christian or muslim isn't his biggest problem.
How do you know his mother or grandparents were Christian. The fact is you don't know their religious affiliation. But if you'd read any of Obama's books he tells you that she wasn't Christian. In Obama's book The Audacity of Hope he wrote, "I was not raised in a religious household...Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones" She was secular, not Christian, which is fairly well documented through his own books.
And she never "worked" for the Peace Corps. Again in his book, she was a "champion" of the Peace Corps movement, meaning she believed in its mission, which was common during that era.
clb
Good news: If you read "Dreams from My Father" you will find the answers to your questions and no longer be hopelessly uninformed. Though I cannot argue with you that the Obama family we see going to church on television - or the President we see praying might be a cleverly planted clone by jihadists who have fooled everyone but you. Thank you for keeping us informed.
oh,, good grief -- he lived in Jakarta with his mother and stepfather when he was 6 years old, and moved back to Hawaii when he was 10. He was a kid, with no say in where he lived! And if he had a "Muslim childhood" how do you explain that he went to Catholic school for nearly 3 years? By your logic, Newt must be Socialist because he lived in France when he was a teenager.
Ya gotta love nut jobs who extrapolate bits and pieces into thoughts out of all touch with reality.
Growing up, I knew a lot of non-Catholics who were enrolled at Catholic parochial elementary and middle schools. Protestant Christians acknowledged the discipline and God-centric education and moral development they'd get in a parochial school.
That being said, just because you went to catholic school doesn't mean you're Catholic (or a good Christian). A real Catholic can see by others' actions and viewpoints if they truly are Catholic (a universal denomination with common beliefs worldwide), and tell if someone is lying, a snake or a fallen Christian.
On a lot of Islands in our not so distant past. Christian and Catholic schools were it.
Growing up, I knew a lot of non-Catholics who were enrolled at Catholic parochial elementary and middle schools. Protestant Christians acknowledged the discipline and God-centric education and moral development they'd get in a parochial school.
That being said, just because you went to catholic school doesn't mean you're Catholic (or a good Christian). A real Catholic can see by others' actions and viewpoints if they truly are Catholic (a universal denomination with common beliefs worldwide), and tell if someone is lying, a snake or a fallen Christian.
I went to Catholic school too, and yes, there were non-Catholics enrolled. Not the point! The point is that living in a predominantly Muslim country as a elementary school kid doesn't make Obama a Muslim, any more than going to a Catholic school makes him Catholic. He and his mother went there to join his stepfather who was Indonesian. Besides, if he was Muslim, I'd bet the last place he'd be enrolled is in a Catholic school! The school where he spent 4th grade was not a Muslim school, so we can dispense with the thought that he was transferred to that school to get a Muslim education, just in case you were going to head in that direction. It was a gov't-run school, and closer to their home.
BTW -- I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic school for 11 years, my mother's godmother is a nun, and we count numerous priests and nuns among family friends. But somehow I missed the part where a "real Catholic can see" if others are also Catholic. Hmmmm. . . maybe I was absent the day they were passing out those Catholic goggles?
NOW WAIT A COTTON PICKIN' MINUTE Y'ALL!!
Dabird laid down the ground rules in 9.2 above, and I quote:
One of two possiblilities here;
1. either you all are violating the rules, OR
2. DaBird is posting LIES on this post......
you choose.
ROTFLOL
@not as. . . you're absolutely right. I didn't follow the rules that Dabird laid out. Mea culpa. I'll zip it about Obama's Muslim childhood now.
Food Fight!!!!!!
You wanna bet on a winner? How bout $10,000?
Ham House eh? Does this mean they favor government pork? They can ham it up all they want and it is fun to watch as they roast each other.
perfectly said baldeagle11
Now, only if President Obama was there also ... We could have chicken and some green fried greens, and for desert...... SOME Watermelon...... Do you know what I mean Forest.... Forest Gump... Shrimp scampi, Shrimp over easy, Shrimp on the shrimp ca-bob, Shrimp vs. No intelligence........ Shrimp vs. No Integrity... Shrimp vs. — — — — — Care......
How about AMERICANS .................. Forest !!!!!.. Forest Gump !!!!!!!!!!!!
What about ................ US................
This is the intellect of the typical voting Republican...are you related to the Bushes and Palins? Thought so...
Corporate pigs at a ham house - oh, the irony!
Maybe they'll listen to Black Sabbath's "War Pigs" and come to the realization it's about them.
Ozzy rules!
I'd vote for Mr. John Osbourne (if he could run) long before I'd ever vote for any of these fascist losers... and by long before, I mean in this lifetime...
OZZY!
Corporate raiders and know-nothing rants
Two eggs over easy? They both look scrambled!
Forrest Gump, not Forest
what we all, the citizens of the usa, want to know, or should want to know, is why these republican presidential candidates don't condemn the editorial in a je wish magazine in atlanta that wanted to go after our president in a terror style. this behavior of these republicans who stoutly speak of not letting daylight pass between us and israel have a supreme duty to come to the defense of our president unequivocally and at once. they are doing this nation a huge disservice with their studied silence.
Probably the same reason the Democrats won't go after the Muslims wanting to destry America, or the mexicans wanting to separate Southern California, Nevada, and New Mexico from the US. Why waste time on fringe people. As Reagan said " trust, but verify".
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Appears to me Starbuck may have called it correctly:
Certainly sounds like Oldman has been nipping at the sweet Lucy a little too much to me....
And what are green fried greens? Do you even know what greens are?
Romney is head to head in this race because
Mormon = Mor-e mon-ey
you can also call them
Morwiv = Mor-e wiv-es
Q: Why is Romney a dedicated Mormon? A: All the letters in the word Mormon are in the word Romney
All the letter's in "MONEY" are in his name also.. Ironic, isn't it?
Mormons are too allowed eat ham ! Why can't they have a fight in a ham house as well ? What did Mormons ever do to you ? Knock on your door once too often ? Please be specific about why you made this comment and why it is relevant to the ham house bruhaha OR , please, kindly knock off the hammy jokes ! Thank you. Cheers !
Not too long ago, I had a couple of Mormon's knock on my door. They asked me how I was. I told them sicker than a dog, they said... That's nice and tried to go on with their talk. I told them I have to respectfully close the door because I really WAS sicker than a dog and was getting dizzy standing up. Not even an apology for not hearing what I told them right at first. I have nothing against Mormons and I think it is unfair anyone would say a candidate should somehow be unqualified to be president because of his faith. I wouldn't vote for Romney because he is way out of touch as to what this country needs, along with the rest of the TParty conservatives.
rednawt, can't argue with that reason. It's based on a real event .Would a ham sandwich have helped ?
At that time, maybe milk toast would have been best :( maybe with a mess of greens on the side.
green fried greens perhaps?
vkmo - What is your point, moron? Stupid red neck remark!
Ha.ha.ha.ha.
Hook line and sinker...... (Sailor)
Newt can thank cnn for propelling him to victory in S. Carolina for starting out a presidential debate with such a dumb-azz question..
You are entirely correct. In a country that looks at its men who can bed a woman, while married to another with envy, what can you expect.
Newt will have at least three sides, and Romney just can't decide, what's Newt having? I'll have what he's having! Thanks for the chuckles all! Oh the irony! LMAO
These supposed gentlemen are not acting very Presidential.
Sounds like a Wild Showdown to me!!! Ham's House, it's on a POPPING!
Sounds more like a "distraction" posed by the GOP elites to take away from the real election. It is Ron Paul's ideology against the miserably failed rerun of a trumped up lobby owned conservative agenda. This election is about what ideology, not candidate, will represent the GOP this election. The GOP elites are demanding the same old crap.
We don't have Democrats against Conservatives. The Democrats are Socialists and the Conservatives are Fascists.... Then we have Ron Paul who is a Constitutionalist. The choice is yours but both Socialism and Fascism lead to the same fate with about the same time line.
Collard greens are vegetables that are members
of the cabbage family, but are also close relatives to kale. Although they are
available year-round they are at their best from January through April.
Collard greens date back to prehistoric times, and are one of the oldest
members of the cabbage family. The ancient Greeks grew kale and collards,
although they made no distinction between them. Well before the Christian era,
the Romans grew several kinds including those with large leaves and stalks and a
mild flavor; broad-leaved forms like collards; and others with curled leaves.
The Romans may have taken the coles to Britain and France or the Celts may have
introduced them to these countries. They reached into the British Isles in the
4th century B.C.
The Southern style of cooking of greens
came with the arrival of African slaves to the southern colonies and the need to
satisfy their hunger and provide food for their families. Though greens
did not originate in Africa, the habit of eating greens that have been cooked
down into a low gravy, and drinking the juices from the greens (known as "pot
likker") is of African origin. The
slaves of the plantations were given the leftover food from the plantation
kitchen. Some of this food consisted of the tops of turnips and other greens.
Ham hocks and pig's feet were also given to the slaves. Forced to create meals
from these leftovers, they created the famous southern greens. The slave diet began to evolve and spread when slaves
entered the plantation houses as cooks. Their African dishes, using the foods
available in the region they lived in, began to evolve into present-day Southern
cooking
A BILL TO AMEND THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA, 1976, BY
ADDING SECTION 1-1-681 SO AS TO DESIGNATE COLLARD GREENS AS THE OFFICIAL STATE
VEGETABLE. Whereas, the State of South Carolina ranks second in the nation for
collard green production; and Whereas, Lexington County ranks first among
counties in South Carolina for collard green production; and Whereas, collard
greens are a healthy addition to any Southern meal. Now, therefore, Be it
enacted by the General Assembly of the State of South Carolina: SECTION 1.
Article 9, Chapter 1, Title 1 of the 1976 Code is amended by adding: "Section
1-1-681. Collard greens are the official vegetable of the State."
The traditional way to cook greens is
to boil or simmer slowly with a piece of salt pork or ham hock for a long time
(this tempers their tough texture and smoothes out their bitter flavor) until
they are very soft. Typically, greens are served with freshly baked corn bread
to dip into the pot-likker. Pot likker is the highly concentrated,
vitamin-filled broth that results from the long boil of the greens. It is, in
other words, the "liquor" left in the pot. It is said by southern grandmothers that "Pot likker will cure what ails you and if nothing ailing you, it
will give you a good cleaning out."
I don't think either Romney or Gingrich will have a problem ordering a "mess of greens" at the Ham House. Both could use a good cleaning out.
By the way, greens are the official vegetable of South Carolina. I'm sure Romney and Gingrich can order all they want at the Ham House whether Pres. Obama is there or not ... and they will be boiled, not fried. At least you spelled watermelon correctly. Bet you know what the words to the abbreviation KKK are, too.
The KKK is a exclusive Democrat Club, Republicans were not invited, unless it was at the end of a rope...
Those that do not know/remember their history are doomed to repeat their past mistakes...
You can collapse this now, but Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) remembered...
IMO - He was one of the few good Senators, the US has even experianced...
A.C., a West Virginia boy/ girl? Sen. Byrd was all about one thing - using his influence and power to improve West Virginia. BTW: did you know that West Virginia has produced more Rhodes Scholars per capita than any other state? And we whipped Clemson's butt just for fun. 70-33! Go eers !
oldman young eyes,
I grew-up in the Roanoke, VA and my first wife was from WV. I will always support those from the Blue Ridge, that support the US Constitution...
Sen Byrd worked for his people, he was a supporter of the US Constitution, and would fight either party if he felt the Constitution was being VIOLATED...
His history was colorful and he made changes where needed...
Would he be nominated in today's toxic political arena??? Probably NOT, but he is the type of LEADER the US now needs...
We need leaders who are not afraid to admit their mistakes and not hide behind lawyers/sealed records. Ones who are able to CHANGE, when they are WRONG and make the corrections necessary to support/protect the US Citizens that voted them into office...
You have any suggestions???
Nice point AC, but you show your ignorance of history as much as anything. When you talk about Democrats, you are talking about the old Dixiecrats who ran the South up to the 60s prior to the Civil Rights Movement. After JFK and the likes, they all migrated away, and settled( guess where AC?) in the Republican Party. Why do you think South Carolina votes like a Republican Robot, because they freed the slaves? Lincoln would spit in Mitch McConnell"s face. Why don't you stop running your mouth AC and read and think for yourself a little more?
dennis-850400,
You are forgetting that it was the Republicans that enabled the Civil Rights Bill to be passed...
JFK voted against it when he was a Senator, along with many popular Democratic leaders. Including Sen Byrd who tried to filibuster the bill...
Sen Bryd was serving and just died a few years ago, so do not give me the BS about how the Dixiecrats died off or converted to Republicans during the 60's...
Some of us were alive, voting, and living in these states, during these periods...