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Newt just had some one bust his surge, maybe?

James Dobson said Santorum was his preference.

Karen "would make a fabulous first lady role model."

"Newt Gingrich's wife .... was a mistress for eight years."

-- and defended his handling of the issue by saying he had not anticipated the level of interest in his returns, which he said provided less information than financial disclosure forms he had already filed.

"I know you guys do and the Democrats would like to and my opponents would like to, but in order for me to defeat President Obama I have to do what I think is the absolute right way to run a campaign and provide information, consistent with the public interest. And I know there is interest and so I have indicated that I will release my tax returns," Romney said.

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So then Mr. Romney by our own logic, if the finanancial forms you have already disclosed say everything folks need to know, you're undercutting the excuse you give for not releasing say 5 years of tax returns. If there is nothing for folks to find on your tax return that they can't ascertain from your already disclosed documents, doesn't that make releasing your tax returns a non-event?

I may not "...know how the economy works..." and all like you and 2 or 3 other people on the planet seem to be blessed with, but I do know how common sense works and I'm not seeing you work it very well.

Brutis - if you feel CNN is a reliable source of real information then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. If that won't interest you... I have some prime land in Florida at a real great price.

Hmmmm, what signal does this send to the groundlings?

It almost sounds like "Get ready for disappointment." Or maybe this is just a strategy to get him one more round of free media before the vote.

I still believe that Romney will eke out a win in South Carolina but it will be a narrow victory. Depending on where he finishes and where his finances are at this point I could see Santorum getting out after SC. But with the evangelicals endorsing him and his narrow victory in Iowa he might feel it's worth a few more rounds before he pulls up stakes and heads home.

I've been saying it now for more than 7 months, Romney will be the nominee and he will lose to the President. He will lose because the right of right wingers and the evangelicals will not support him. If his showing in SC is as dismal as his press conference would indicate, you can bank on it, he's toast in November.

Obama/Biden 2012

Go get em Santorum....

Brian, which news corp. do you think is reliable? Everyone knows Romney wouldn't stand where he does without cheating and buying his way. They even reported that he won the Iowa caucuses which was false. If the media was half as biased against Romney as Paul, Mitt would have dropped out of the race a month ago. When is it trustworthy to spend ten minutes recapping the NH primaries on the nightly news and not mention the second place finisher's name even once.

brutis,

The only reason CNN is saying the Paul is the only one who can beat Obama is because he CAN'T. Paul is the most radical non BIG finance candidate I've ever seen. Sure, he may have been a successful Doctor, but the man has never had to coordinate on a BIG level and seen cause and effect of his policies. Frankly, the man scares me, not to mention that the man does not look too healthy to me.

I still don't know who I would vote for, because anyone has to be better than Obama, but I know I would rather the race came down to Santorum, Romney and Gingrich for the GOP.

Newt and Santy are for the same crowd , Mitt supporters also include more independent and moderate voters and this is a plus for him. About Rony he just want to make his point , his support comes from the anti-war crowd and marijuana proponents, but going down to his whole ideas most of them are too libertarian end the Reserve Bank, close departments of Education, Energy, Interior and eliminate our military presence all over the world, not even for humanitarian mission is too much , but he is the most consistent of all. Just a though.

Romney's victory in South Carolina would prove that you cannot under-estimate the power of Magic Underwear.

blahblah - I don't find any news 100% reliable. There's always a spin tossed in based on that organization's philosophy. The day of real jouralism is dead. Two different news organizations can carry the same story, but the commentary shapes the public's viewpoint and each one will leave you with a different opinion.

Today, the left rules the main stream media. I listen to some of it but use my filter to remove the slant. I'm not interested in some writer slapping his personal views all over a story. I pay attention to actualities.. the footage without commentary... I am intelligent enough to draw my own conclusions when someone newsworthy says something and it's taped. I read several different sources of news. I'll even go to Huffington Post to see what the liberals are saying. I don't necessarily agree with what's said, but at least I know what they are saying.

Being guarded and understanding the spin concept helps me draw my own conclusions as long as I balance out the left and the right of any given story.

Yes! Please go Mitt, somewhere far away.

Obama doesn't know hell or high water how to create a job...

He does know how to get banks to screw you..

The single funniest thing I can think of.......is 4 years of watching the foaming mad dog liberals just go apeshyt crazy everytime Callista walked out as the first lady. One could only hope for that kind of humor!

It is sad when media can blackball someone to the point where what they say eventually becomes true. If a candidate is called unelectable enough, he becomes unelectable. The fact that Paul is doing so well despite being mislabled and smeared tells me that all things being equal, that CNN poll is probably accurate.

The idea that one can filter out slant falls apart when all the media lean in the same direction at once. So when you attempt to discredit the only poll that goes against this one sidedness, you are just reinforcing the original bias. You cannot balance between left and right when it isn't a left/right issue.

Go Colbert/Cain

The fact that Paul is doing so well despite being mislabled and smeared tells me that all things being equal, that CNN poll is probably accurate.

Name one "mislable" that the media has placed on Ron Paul. And give me one reason why he is better than any of the other candidates, let along Obama.

Mislabel number one is the "racist" attack. Dr. Paul only believes in one color, that color is green. As in all the green he will save the taxpayers. Ron Paul is better than all of the other candidates and Obama because of his constancy over the last 30 years.

Ron Paul HAS made racist statements in the past. He has renounced them, but that doesn't change the fact that he once was a racist. (http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/dec/30/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-newsletters-contained-only-eight-or-/).

Well I already gave you one of the mislables. I will not give you an exhaustive list because that plays into the media's word association game. Those pshychological bullies love to throw his public image on the defensive so every time he is mentioned you make a negative association.

Instead I will kindly inform you that RP is a constitutionalist, a fiscal conservative, honest, and a supporter of both state and personal rights. These are all reasons why he is better than the other candidates, but if that doesn't satisfy you, how about considering his consistency, "let along" how he predicted the many messes we are now in decades ago with spot on accuracy?

All you have to contribute is an already debunked attack on his character. Stupid is a word used to describe those people unwilling to replace their false beliefs when the truth presents itself. Of course there are those who know what they say isn't true but feel the need to cheat and lie because they don't want to give others the ability to make their own decisions. Tell me what negative effects do you think a RP presidency will have other than the fact that you will be angry because you don't like him.

Well I already gave you one of the mislables. I will not give you an exhaustive list because that plays into the media's word association game.

And I already showed why that wasn't a mislable at all. I want something undisputed.

Those pshychological bullies love to throw his public image on the defensive so every time he is mentioned you make a negative association.

That's not true at all. Most criticisms of Ron Paul are of his policies. I don't think you understand the concept of not everybody agreeing with his radical proposals.

Instead I will kindly inform you that RP is a constitutionalist,

Meaningless statement. Paul wishes to allow states to violate the 1st Amendment by letting them establish classroom prayer.

a fiscal conservative

Reaganomics has been proven false time after time.

honest

I'll give you this, though he has lied about some things (notably by saying everyone agrees with his idea to reinstate gold standard).

a supporter of both state and personal rights

These can be contradictory (see the classroom prayer example).

These are all reasons why he is better than the other candidates, but if that doesn't satisfy you, how about considering his consistency, "let along" how he predicted the many messes we are now in decades ago with spot on accuracy?

I will give you consistency, but I'd like a source for his predictions (I will be checking this out with Politifact, but I'd like to see where you got this). Better than most Republican candidates, yes. However, Romney has never threatened to eliminate Medicare or Social Security, something I will deeply respect him for over Paul.

All you have to contribute is an already debunked attack on his character.

Debunked? The source I provided was politifact, widely considered to be the most neutral and reliable fact-checking source around.

Tell me what negative effects do you think a RP presidency will have other than the fact that you will be angry because you don't like him.

Gladly. Ron Paul is a "liberatarian". This is a belief that the federal government should pretty much do nothing whatsoever. This means no regulations on businesses at all, which is ridiculous. He also wants to eliminate important government departments, such as Energy and Education. Absolute Free Market theory has been proven as a useless economic theory time after time - it lead to the Great Deppression, if you remember. Ron Paul believes that a free market will fix any problems in itself - this is false. Do you realize that if Exonn Mobil, Chevron, and BP merge, the original Standard Oil monopoly that Teddy Roosevelt split into 34 different companies to take down will be reformed?

“I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”

-Barack Hussein Obama

Don't throw stones in a glass house...

Give it a rest!,

The claimed quote is outright false.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp

As you can see in the article, other racist statements attributed to Obama are grossly taken out of context.

How is

I think we can assume that 95 percent of the black men in that city [Washington, D.C.] are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

not a racist statement, Ron Paul fans? Remember, that was only made back in '89, well after the Civil Rights movement went under way.

When you read that full quote, you will realize he was being sarcastic in order to point out the flawed justice system. In any case, this is what he extrapolated from a report.

""These aren't my figures," said Paul.

Even if he believed the report, which I doubt, it would not be discriminatory to cite its statistics. That he may have once bought into a third party's stereotype, does not in any way imply any prejudice on his part. Racism is the application of prejudice or discrimination based on race, not citing a racial* statistic.

Either way, that was a long time ago, and racism is not compatible with the Libertarian ethos, for which Paul is widely known. He is quick to point out current racism and condemn it.

I can see why you don't like the way he wants to decentralize government by ending some programs. I agree that at first glance this could look bad. The real issue isn't that people shouldn't have social programs to help them out, but that these programs are illegal for the time being. The Federal govt. does not have the authority to exercise powers not enumerated by the constitution.

The point is that even though welfare and social security can be beneficial, they should be enacted at the state level until congress decides to pass a constitutional amendment making them legal. Promoting the general welfare of the people means promoting, not providing!

He can afford to be optimystic *yuk*yuk*yuk*

Mr. Anon: That quote was not Ron Pauls. He didn't write the newsletters. The Obama quote above is from his book. He wrote those words. Case closed. Stones/glass house.

I stand corrected. The above quote from Obama was incorrect.

I was watching the news this morning and I have to thank Romney. The news showed clips of Romney giving speeches on the stump. During his speech in his own words he said the following statements:

"Obama didn't cause the Recession" and "Obama's done a good job turning the recession around".

So why would I vote for anyone but Obama?

Fair enough about the racist quotes, I misinterpreted the source.

I can see why you don't like the way he wants to decentralize government by ending some programs. I agree that at first glance this could look bad. The real issue isn't that people shouldn't have social programs to help them out, but that these programs are illegal for the time being. The Federal govt. does not have the authority to exercise powers not enumerated by the constitution.

The point is that even though welfare and social security can be beneficial, they should be enacted at the state level until congress decides to pass a constitutional amendment making them legal. Promoting the general welfare of the people means promoting, not providing!

The problem is things that Ron Paul wants to remove like the income tax are constitutional (there's a whole amendment for it). In addition, I'm not sure where you got the idea that social programs are not constitutional.

CHILDREN STOLEN - NO CHRISTIANS ALLOWED! I strongly encourage all, but especially women, to do a little googling about mormens and what their women and girls lives are actually like. Find out for yourselves just what this mormen priest has and will dictate for females. All mormens must follow the teachings of Smith or be shunned and not able to be the "gods" that they firmly believe they will be when they die. The cult preys on the young and rips families apart. The teenagers that get sucked into their cult are forever separated from their Christian families. I know. It happened in my family. Their Christian families are not even allowed to attend their weddings. To allow that would be to defile their temple. Please I beseech you to just take a little time and find out just what a mormen actually is and what they absolutely must do. And what this man will be required to do as president. Have you ever heard of a single mormen female having accomplished anything at all, ever, except raising children?? Do you know what happens to the ones that fail to bear children?? Please do not allow this damaging, false prophet pushing, brainwashed man to take control of our country!

Thinkingtwice you assume that Christianity is the only true religion, an assumption that is false. The Christian cult has been proven false though logical and scientific means.

The reason for abolishing the income tax is two fold. Firstly, it forces the federal government to conserve resources by shrinking. Secondly, as a result of this, it loses the ability to exercise powers that it has usurped from the people. This would help to reset the balance of power in the US without going through another civil war. Here's a relevant video for some historical context. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fgH_NlbM0eM You have to understand that our understanding of the language in the constitution has drastically changed thanks in part to federal authoritarianism. Ask any grade schooler what that war was fought over. Not one will know the truth.

If you can't see that much of the federal government is unconstitutional and tyrranical, you have a very narrow sense of history and freedom. The good news is this isn't your fault. Forcing a false education on people is blatantly wrong, be it via government or religious establishment. Some would call this mental slavery.

Blahblah, abolishing the income tax will give large corporations and highly rich people huge amounts of power, and right now are the primary source of government income. Now, contrary to what Ron Paul may want you to believe, the federal government does have responsibilities enumerated by the constitution, mainly regulating interstate business, setting up roads and post offices, and defense. In addition, the federal government now also has to fund scientific research. I'm sure you, and Ron Paul, agree with all of these responsibilities.

Now, why is it necessary for the federal government to be fairly strong? Individual states often do not have the money to maintain their own schools and the welfare of their citizens. This is why basic federal programs, such as the Department of Education and Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid are necessary. Now, all of these responsibilities require a source for funding. Originally, the funding source was taxation on foreign goods, or tariffs. This was useful for a while, as it funded the federal government and helped American businesses grow, but eventually it became insufficient and hurt international trade. That's why a federal income tax is necessary. The reason of a federal income tax is simple - people who make a lot of money, who can take a small deduction of their pay to taxes are taxed, while Americans who are not as fortunate are not hurt. Virtually all of the government is funded through income taxes (whether regular income, capital gains, or payroll).

Did you know that without the federal income tax, overal federal revenue would still be equivalent to what it was ten years ago? This should be plenty to fund reasonable responsibilities. Large corporations and the highly rich already have so much influence over the federal government that the more revenue the federal government has, the more influence and power these people have to wield through their corrupted slave government.

The current federal governement is so far beyond reasonably strong it isn't funny. It can usurp power at will. It can start wars without a declaration by congress. It can influence other countries on the deepest of levels.

It is much more difficult to corrupt fifty separate but cooperative governments than a single centralized state. Every nation throughout history to have centralized power to this extent has failed at the expense and suffering of countless people.

You say some states couldn't support themselves without federal funding, but this money is coming out of the states to begin with. Education is important and with all the money people would save by abolishing this tax, they could afford to donate to public schools or even send their kids to private institutions. It is detrimental to intellectual diversity to try to give everyone almost the exact same education. Specialization works. If you want to regulate greed, which is practically impossible, how about capping any individual's sum wealth at say a billion dollars, where any excess is given to the state? Redistribution of wealth is a tricky subject, and the closer its redistribution is to the source, the better.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction" - Albert Einstein

Mittie is trying to portray himself as an undergod, he can't do that if he releases his tax returns.

zombie who runs around with her head up Obama's ass.

Ahh - there you are Cliffy!

Where you been little buddy?

I thought you got lost...

A day without YOU stalking me is like a day without sunshine - sweet-heart! ♥

So I am voting for Romney and his dog and his underwear

Goody for YOU!

Isn't it great we get a CHOICE in this country?

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 - to move this country forward!

As someone who survived the Romney years in Massachusetts - you should learn a bit more about this candidate you are worshiping. He is nothing but a two-headed snake who says something new every day only to appease the person he is talking to that very moment. You will NEVER know where he TRULY stands on the issues as they are forever changing and he always has yet another excuse why that is. He ONLY cares about the rich and helping the corporations. He is about power, not the PEOPLE. And has little experience creating jobs, only eliminating them. He has NO foreign experience and little knowledge of it, other than what his handlers are saying and he is on record for wanting to stir things up with Iran, China, and sending our troops BACK to Iraq. Where on Earth will we get the money to pay for THAT?!?! Massachusetts had "buyers remorse" with him, and unfortuantely, this country will too if he's elected.

Hey Paul---If you are successful like Romney than your grandchildren have nothing you should worry about. A few million for him and a few million for her and if Romney becomes President then Taa-Daa, no inheritance taxes. you lucky sod.

And while you are in a forgiving mood, I think you forgot to mention George W. Bush. Do you remember him? You know, the guy who put the final ax to the debt and our laws. Do you forgive him too?

P.S. Did Romney's dog wear underwear to keep from freezing while he was strapped to the top of the family car?

Actually Feisty I kind of hope Obama wins again, that way I can sit back and laugh at all you fools who think he is going to take from us rich and give to you poor, LOL it isn't going to happen, I'm smart like all the rich, I have my money where it won't get touched by your worthless leader. I'll still get richer and you will still get poorer.

I have my money where it won't get touched by your worthless leader.

I bet you do...

Just not sure how you managed to fit it all up 'there'!

Paul - Stop talking jackazz... Who are you to criticize Fiesty's comment.

Frankly, Fiesty's comment is based on the real facts that Romney is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with America.

He is deceitful, arrogant, self-centered and a total friggin idiot!

I could care less about your idiotic republican primary, but that moron cannot and will not win the Presidency.

You ought to be ashased of yourself, anyone that would still present themselves as a supporter of the obstructionist GOP is a fool.

.........somebody's in love with Feisty!...........LOL......

You are obviously an ignorant person....perhaps stupid, also. Mitt Romney is a self made man. That is what is so great about this country. He started with nothing and made a successful life for himself. We all have that opportunity. Those that want the government to assist them with thier needs, are lazy and do not belong in our great country. If you don't like our morals & principles, that stem back to the founders of our great country, GET OUT!!! Go to a socialized society where you belong.

@Feisty:

I bet you do...

Just not sure how you managed to fit it all up 'there'!

Priceless!! If he leaves himself that wide-open, makes you wonder what bit of smarts were used used to earned that $100m.

I fit it all up Obama's ass after I moved Feisty's head a little to the left, and all the while Obama had a big smile on his face!! God I love being in the 1%, it makes life so much easier.

He started with nothing and made a successful life for himself

That has to be the best laugh line ever .. Romney started out with nothing but an extremely rich daddy that put him through one of the most expensive schools in the nation. Yes, he did make a successful life for himself - using those golden opportunities and wide open doors daddy introduced him to - opportunities that 99% of us do not have open access to.

Feisty - if you must rip apart the GOP nominees based on nothing, please dig into the back ground of President Obama the same way.

If you are going to nit-pick the Republicans because of the thrill President Obama sends up your leg please do not bother serious voters.

ABO'12

LMAO..... you obviously dont spend much time here! Are you saying Chris Mathews and her have something in common?

@Feisty Red Head

You're right and Mitt will come in THIRD behind Ron Paul. What people on this site forget is that Flip Robme like BUsh had a rich Cross eyed Pappy. He was NEVER a 'self made' man. Like HW he was born with a 'silver foot' in his mouth.

Mitt Romney is a self made man. That is what is so great about this country. He started with nothing and made a successful life for himself.

I don't mind you supporting Romney, but don't LIE about him.

He did NOT start from "nothing"... he started from a VERY wealthy family, with all the money needed to set him up for success.

You ARE talking about Bush, right?

Rob,

I believe that he can. He has been practicing for 3 years and I fear the worst is yet to come. As you will see in the upcoming race to keep his job, he will pull out every trick in the book (and some that have not been written yet).

Rob in ma

Free birth control pills? Think the Obama administration is trying to prevent the need for abortion services? Isn't that more sensible than fire bombing clinics?

Not sure about medications but services ... yes Colonoscopies for one !!

2.5 million more young adults have health insurance.

As of October 2011, more than 2.65 million seniors got a 50 percent discount
on their prescription drugs when they hit the donut hole.

Insurance companies can no longer drop your coverage when you get sick or
put a lifetime cap on the amount of care you can receive.

.."Starting in 2014, consumers in every state will have access to Affordable Insurance Exchanges – State-based one-stop marketplaces where consumers can choose a private health
insurance plan that fits their health needs. Exchanges will offer consumers the
same kinds of insurance choices that members of Congress now have. And millions
of middle class families will get tax credits to make it easier to buy insurance
in the Exchanges."

Just a few points about the Health Care Reform Act, now the law of the land.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/01/18/moving-forward-and-implementing-health-reform

JC in G. I expect he will use all the tricks, and so will the eventual nominee of the GOP or have you not been watching?

Jaysus Rob!

You wail about abortions & whine about contraceptives...

Which is is?

Why don't you stay on topic Rob? I am sure there is an article in FIXed that you can comment on that would allow you to make your views known in context.

http://www.womensliberation.org/priorities/abortion-and-birth-control/position-papers/69-bush-administration-blocks-birth-control-access-at-every-turn

This Bush?

Good for Obama. Also covered:

Also to be covered without copays are breast pumps for nursing mothers, an annual "well-woman" physical, screening for the virus that causes cervical cancer and for diabetes during pregnancy, counseling on domestic violence, and other services.

Just how is providing health care for women divisive? Must be jealous you aren't a woman.

Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said in a statement. "This common sense decision means that millions of women, who would otherwise pay $15 to $50 a month, will have access to affordable birth control, helping them save hundreds of dollars each year."

What's really amazing is that lefties use the word "affordable" when in reality they should use the correct word "FREE"!

For them anyway... more redistribution is all it is.

Actually, President Obama has been one of the most successful Presidents in modern history. If you want to look at a failed President, go into the record of President George W. Bush.

The folks on the right support this Republican Party which has been becoming less of a traditional shadow of your father’s political party, with a representative democracy, and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult.

Well, at least he isn't claiming victory, which spares him (and us) having to pull one of his already famous "about-faces" tomorrow...this week has been so TAXING for team Romney...

Gallup Editor: Romney Lead 'Collapsing'

Gallup's top editor told MSNBC this morning that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's lead in the polls is "collapsing" across the nation, citing polling numbers that have changed dramatically over the last few days.

Frank Newport, Gallup's editor in chief, appeared on the MSNBC's "Jansing & Co." to share the results of Gallup's national tracking poll. The gap between Romney and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is quickly closing, according to that poll.

"We'll see this gap closing more," said Newport. "Romney was up 23 points over Newt Gingrich. Now it will be down about 10 points. So clearly, things are collapsing."

Read more on Newsmax.com: Romney Lead 'Collapsing,' Says Gallup Editor
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Mitt will be fine I assure you.

And I have to say I like Gallop. I believe their poll on who was the best president EVER came back with Ronald Reagan first Abe Lincoln second.

If one pays a monthly insurance premium for medical coverage, that hardly makes the covered product FREE.

Free birth control pills. I guess the pharm companies will have to just give away their product. Or could it be that everyone that pays for insurance will pay a little more to offset this extra expense that the insurance companies have to pay for. Yes, it will be free to the woman that wants to have unprotected sex without the inconvenience of creating a human being.

When the left has their way and mandates that all grocery stores give away milk to anyone that wants it, do you think there is any chance that the grocery store will hike up the prices of all the rest of their goods to make up the difference? Let's see, if a conservative objects, they will be labled "A racist hater that wants children to die because they don't have milk."

Vote for Obama, pretty soon under him, everything will be free!!!!

Rob-

I agree with the Conservatives who "believe" Mitt is like President Obama jr. and a sure loser in November.

Supporting Obama-lite? Are you really a Conservative? Do you secretly want the President to win another term?

That's what supporting Massachusetts Moderate Romney means to many...

Talk to me about how "fine" his campaign and candidacy seem on Monday...

If one pays a monthly insurance premium for medical coverage, that hardly makes the covered product FREE

"If one pays"

Remember Obama made it "you have to pay"

For the life of me, I cannot find a reference anywhere to a conspiracy from the left demanding that health insurance coverage be used to distribute free milk from the grocery store.

This newly minted medicare recipient had her annual mammogram at no cost, thank you very much President Obama. In addition, my annual physical exam, my necessary lab work, was covered at no cost, thank you very much President Obama.

Geez, Rob in MA, it's called prevention and those birth controll pills will save the private insurance companies a huge chunk of change; insurance companies make millions and their CEOs get an average of $13 million in pay every year. Pharmaceutical manufacturers make millions every year on medications manufactured at little cost to them yet pharmacies are required to charge hundreds for them.

Reagan Tops Among Republicans, Clinton Among Democrats

In the eight times Gallup has asked this same "greatest president" question over the last 12 years, one of three presidents -- Lincoln, Reagan, and Kennedy -- has topped the list each time. Reagan was the top vote getter in 2001, 2005, and now 2011. Lincoln won in 1999, in two 2003 surveys, and in 2007. Kennedy was on top in 2000, and tied with Lincoln in November 2003.

Americans as a group have a propensity to mention recent presidents, not surprising given that the average American constantly hears about and from presidents in office during their lifetime, and comparatively little about historical presidents long dead. Four of the five most recent presidents are in the top 10 greatest presidents list this year -- Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, and Reagan.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/146183/americans-say-reagan-greatest-president.aspx

Wasn't that Bill Clinton GREAT! If you like "gallop" (sic) you have to LOVE President Clinton!

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Oh, Paulists! He is a LIBERTARIAN, not a REPUBLICAN or even a CONSERVATIVE, but 20% of the delegates will assure that your voices are heard by the platform committee when y'all get to Tampa, but you can't win anything with 20%, so try to be as patient and realistic as Dr. Paul and be happy with the progress that the movement has made....

If one pays a monthly insurance premium for medical coverage, that hardly makes the covered product FREE.

It's a service you had to pay for before in addition to your regular premium, now you don't have to pay for it ..... if that's not the definition of free ..... sheesh.

Regardless, so how do you like paying for (subsidizing) the Kim Kardashians and Paris Hiltons of America ... the rich who can certainly afford their own co-pay?

dangerfield,

I see you are managing to stir up the masses.

Oh, and just a bit of FYI, for the longest time Viagra was covered by insurers and NOT birth control pills. I let you all figure that one out.

Rob, there you go again--the "mandate" was the GOP's idea, they are the ones who suggested it be added to the legislation. Bob Dole, the Heritage Foundation, Newt Gingrich, and yes, Mitt Romney, all believed that mandated insurance was for the good of all; they said it was a conservative principle of individual responsibility. Everytime any of us with insurance pay our month premium or our portion of the monthly premium, a percentage of that amount is because of the cost to hospitals and doctors for the insured. Treating the uninsured means the costs are passed to those with insurance. I seriously doubt we would even be having this discussion these three years later if the GOP had passed ACA and President Bush signed it.

#s .. there are several gender reassignment doctors that can poof, turn you into a woman. Then you can get all the insurance covered birth control pills you want (of course, they wouldn't work but we'll let you find that out the hard way).

And if you don't want to participate in an insurance company that covers the Kardashians and Hiltons of the world, change companies.

Rob,

Ronald Reagan is the patron saint for some reason I have yet to understand, of the republican party. There is only one choice for one third of the electorate.

What on Earth do conservatives admire about the conqueror of Grenada anyway? Is it the number of times he increased taxes? Is it the massive deficit he put on America's Mastercard? I can't believe that. It must have been his advice to conservatives to never compromise. Conservatives also remember trickle down economics, where the wealthy get tax cuts they don't need or deserve and the middle class foots the bills. Is that why Reagan trumps the likes of Lincoln or Washington or FDR? What the Gallup Poll says is one thing. What historians say will be quite another.

Meat for the red team- Romney will in all likelihood will choose a Governor as his running mate and that will mean 2 Governors (outsiders) running against 2 Senators (insiders).

Meat for the blue team- The last time that happened was Dewey vs. Truman … the 2 Senators won.

ps Thomas Paine wrote:

I do not believe that any two men, on what are called doctrinal points, think alike who think at all. It is only those who have not thought that appear to agree.

I concur.

It used to be that preventive services even with health insurance cost me a large co-pay.

But now, I love the fact that under the pieces of the Affordable Health Care Act that preventive services don't cost me a dime, and my insurance picks up the tab.

Thank you, Mr. President.

Ideology,

I am afraid that the masses here will not appreciate Thomas Paine. Sad, too. I liked him. BTW, you had nothing for the vegetarians. :)

Rob in ma-3189632

Mitt will be fine I assure you.

And I have to say I like Gallop. I believe their poll on who was the best president EVER came back with Ronald Reagan first Abe Lincoln second.

You mean, "Illegal Alien Amnesty" Ronald Reagan?

Or, do you mean, "Raised taxes 12 times" Ronald Reagan?

Perhaps, you mean, "$167 Billion Bail Out of Social Security" Ronald Reagan?

phine, you can have Thomas Paine as either the salad or the dessert course.

Actually I find Thomas Paine (just my opinion) to be the meat, and the other facts to be the side dishes. I will wait to see what comes up for dessert.

"...and my insurance company picks up the tab."

Oh my, such a fundamental misunderstanding of how it all works Job1.

Yeah, they are probably using 'their own money' to do it, right?

Unbelievable.

Oh well, I wonder Job1 - ya think this maybe, just might be why health care cost continue to rise?

Naaa, can't possible be - Obama promised us that Obamacare would 'bend the cost curve down.'

Of course these were the same geniuses that said '09 was "Recovery Summer." As was '10, and now the ecomony is 'improving.'

Good times.

Gallup Polls still have Romney by 10 points nation wide!! News Max runs it mouth and no one listens..

Phine-

ISTV (I always tune in!)

Tom Paine? At least he's giving some a chance to us poor US educated dullards on that one, he alluded to Alvin Toffler today, and I'm just waiting for his Marshall McLuhan reference (oops!) to close the thread...The air is pretty thin up on his perch...we can but gaze skyward and admire the view!..

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Um, Paul, you seem to care enough to try to discredit the folks at Gallup (did you even read the piece before jumping in with both feet?) who are the ones being quoted. Have you seen the latest SC polls where Mitt has totally collapsed?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-1590.html

It's really true that the same thing is happening Nationally...

More good news for "Optimistic" Team Romney; It's going to be "fine"

CHARLESTON, S.C. — Another tea party leader says she sees signs that grassroots conservative activists are getting behind Newt Gingrich in the Palmetto State ahead of Saturday’s primary.

“I think in South Carolina, from what I’m hearing, a lot of the tea party people are behind Newt,” Jenny Beth Martin told The Daily Caller during a brief interview in the spin room after Thursday night’s Republican presidential debate.

TheDC reported Thursday that other tea party leaders are saying similar things about the former House Speaker. One hundred tea party leaders from 25 states endorsed Gingrich on Thursday

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/19/co-founder-of-tea-party-patriots-says-activists-lining-up-behind-newt/

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/19/co-founder-of-tea-party-patriots-says-activists-lining-up-behind-newt/#ixzz1k24xM2rC

You can almost hear "The Harder They Come" playing in the background...

dangerfield,

I think some of our friends on the right are looking for torches and pitchforks about now. They won't be pleased with your reporting. :)

Going through another bag of books today ... yes I still have those archaic things

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.”
Søren Kierkegaard

Both of my children, who are in college, will be able to stay on my health insurance plan until they are 26, that is a big relief given the current economy.

Thank you President Obama!

JODY Says----This newly minted medicare recipient had her annual mammogram at no cost, thank you very much President Obama. In addition, my annual physical exam, my necessary lab work, was covered at no cost, thank you very much President Obama.

Only a liberal would think these services were at "no cost". This is why Obamacare will cause medical costs to explode for those of us who know everything has a cost and it has to be paid. The liberal patient has to have some skin in the game or these "no cost" Dr's visits will explode further in cost for those of us who do pay our bills. This is just another Liberal cause that the true conservatives will have to pay for...

Dangerfield, Woody Allen beat me out on Marshall McLuhan a couple of decades ago at a cinema line up.

Newt has been pretty much overlooked until recently. When he started hammering Romney is when Newt started climbing. People were listening to what Newt had to say... Romney has been lambasted to the core of his beliefs. Since I believe Romney is Obama lite, I don't want him running against Obama because what difference is there between the two of them. Those that voted for Obama and were hoping for someone different won't find it in Romney.

Newt on the other hand has dumped a can of industrial strength whup ass on Romney. That is what's needed to take out Obama. If anyone can, Newt can open many cans along the way. If the republican establishment takes a good hard look, they will realize that the cans are what's needed to put Obama in his place and shut him down. I don't care how much money Obama has to throw at the election, money isn't the answer. Obama can purchase all the advertisement time he likes boasting on his version of the record he set, Newt will have serious comebacks and will be able to thwart Obama's message. This is why the conservatives need Newt and I believe they are starting to come around to realizing this.

Rob - you do know that VIAGRA is covered by insurance companies. It only makes sense to cover the WOMEN from getting pregnant while the MEN are covered to get an erection.

Rod Father who do you suppose is covering the added cost of insuring your kids to 26 years of age?

Why don't you thank them instead.....

You people thanking the President for your free Health Care services are really unbelievable.

You should be thanking those of us who pay for it in our health care premiums.

Geeez, didn't your parents teach you that NOTHING is ever free?

Obama claiming that his healthcare plan will lower healthcare costs is like Obama claiming his investment in Soylent Green was a good investment for the tax payer..... This loser needs to go.....

2.5 million more young adults have health insurance.

As of October 2011, more than 2.65 million seniors got a 50 percent discount
on their prescription drugs when they hit the donut hole.

Insurance companies can no longer drop your coverage when you get sick or
put a lifetime cap on the amount of care you can receive.

As a small business owner in Virginia let me be so kind as to point out the downside of this wonderful new national health plan. The increased costs that are being passed along to me, and the many business owners that I interact with every day, relative to Obamacare are crippling the company in a business that already has lower margins. Quite frankly most of us in the business community here have been forced to lay people off not because we are too slow but because we have to free up the payroll dollars to account for coverage levels that are beyond our capacity as a small business. Added to these are the costs of electronic records (also from the mandate)...a conversion process that has thus far cost us another $150,000. Our only choice, and the choice of many others in the business community, has been to reduce payroll and offer a degraded level of service to our customers. Before you jump on the Obama Bandwagon to sing his praise realize that his policies are costing jobs right here....less then 10 miles outside of DC.

UAW WCA, why do Canadian's live longer and their medicare costs are 50% lower than yours?

2.5 million more young adults have health insurance.

As of October 2011, more than 2.65 million seniors got a 50 percent discount
on their prescription drugs when they hit the donut hole.

Insurance companies can no longer drop your coverage when you get sick or
put a lifetime cap on the amount of care you can receive.

As a small business owner in Virginia let me be so kind as to point out the downside of this wonderful new national health plan. The increased costs that are being passed along to me, and the many business owners that I interact with every day, relative to Obamacare are crippling the company in a business that already has lower margins. Quite frankly most of us in the business community here have been forced to lay people off not because we are too slow but because we have to free up the payroll dollars to account for coverage levels that are beyond our capacity as a small business. Added to these are the costs of electronic records (also from the mandate)...a conversion process that has thus far cost us another $150,000. Our only choice, and the choice of many others in the business community, has been to reduce payroll and offer a degraded level of service to our customers. Before you jump on the Obama Bandwagon to sing his praise realize that his policies are costing jobs right here....less then 10 miles outside of DC.

As usual,righties repeating republican talking points to the extreme.

You folks really should come up with some original thoughts and post them.

UAW,

Why dont you pull your head out of your hind end?

Thank you, Mr. President for Affordable Health Care Act.

ISTV-

I knew you'd catch the reference...What a brilliant scene, and haven't we all wanted to do that to some pompous ass at some point?...

White Collar Auto

You people thanking the President for your free Health Care services are really unbelievable.

You should be thanking those of us who pay for it in our health care premiums.

Health care is a right, not a product. Just like police, fire, roads and schools.

It is inhumane, to let the private sector handle health care. They have shown that the Free Market simply does not work for health care.

Liberals are poison that will eventually be the downfall of this great nation. No more sugar coating it. Tea partiers are giving a bad rap because they are fixed on getting out of debt. Liberals hate that!

Liberals want free hand-outs such as health care. Thats fantastic that we are adding 25 million more people to the health care list however....who will pay for that? The working class!

Say all you want about Bush however within his terms as president, debt went from 8 to 12 trillion. With Obama, in just over 3 years, debt has climbed from 12 to 15 trillion. That is twice the rate as Bush! No wonder liberals hate tea partiers! They stand in the way of further ruining this country by building up its debt.

Liberals are poison that will bring this country to its knees.

You guys are showing signs of short term memory. I myself remember how bad the economy and unemployment were under President Bush and getting worst up to his last days in office.

So actually the truth is, President Obama inherited this incredible brink of depression mess from President Bush and President Obama has done a good job of turning the country around.

Then the Republicans make up misleading statistics to prove that the America's fiscal burden is being borne by the rich and the rest of us are just freeloaders who don't appreciate that fact

I honestly have to say anyone that doesn’t recognize this fact is pretty out of touch with reality.

Thats fantastic that we are adding 25 million more people to the health care list however....who will pay for that?

Who will pay for those people are the individuals that take out the insurance coverage. You haven't been asked to pay a damn dime to cover other people's children.

Now, who is the poison bringing this country to its knees by spreading false information?

RedDev,

So True. All they do is spread false information.

Please allow me to educate you liberals. The Obama health care system is completely identical to a universal health care system. Same health care as many European countries. Obamacare is a socialistic method though. This is because all the generated income from collected insurance premiums will be divided out evenly between all citizens. Meaning that if you cant afford good health care, and you can only pay $1 that you will be receiving the exact same health care as the person who pays $50,000,000. People will soon loose incentive to try and work harder for a better health care coverage.

Corky-3849596

Bad news for you. The Republicans don't have any ideas (except wacko Ron Paul).

Looks like you will have to live with the commie poison guy for four more years.

And btw the Tea Party is finished. Hate to break it to you.

And also, you don't have any idea what you are talking about. The Obama health care plan is not even single payer. The rest of the civilized world has single payer.

You are complaining about policy that is further right than Ronald Reagan.

Let me take a guess, you don't like that colored guy riding around in a jet, while you have to go by tractor.

Please allow me to educate you liberals.

Good Grief!

Are they giving away aluminum foil at Piggly Wiggly today?

Like I said, you Republicans make up misleading statistics to prove that the America's fiscal burden is being borne by the rich and the rest of us are just freeloaders who don't appreciate that fact.

I honestly have to say anyone that doesn’t recognize this fact is pretty out of touch with reality.

Affordable Health care is a human right to all.

Please allow me to educate you liberals

Thanks but no thanks, I prefer receiving my education from educated folks.

Our health care is not Universal, if it were, we would have a Universal coverage option much like Medicare. Also, how many people pay fifty-million for health care? I guess it is possible for one person to consume that much health care, but I suspect it is very rare.

Hey Job1/Feisty - I believe we got under Dorky's skin, or at least on the last nerve.

I believe we got under Dorky's skin, or at least on the last nerve.

I thought I heard their head exploding! lol

*popcorn*?

I believe we got under Dorky's skin, or at least on the last nerve.

RedDev,

Good one. These righties are way out there in LA LA Land.

Health care is a right?

You have got to be kidding.

Wow.

Hey Fiesty,

Getting picked on today??? HA! Still don't like your avitar, but laugh at your opinions / messages. Which I do believe you certainly are entitled to.

Answer to your question of abortion or contraseptives. Easy!! I have two teenage boys. I would want abstinance over all, but I'm neither nieve or stupid so I vote for contraseptives!!!!!

Have a great weekend!!

My wife (yes my 4th smirk) and I received a letter from our doctors medical group of 17 years. The entire group decided they would not participate in the presidents health plan. They looked at their costs and what they get from Medicare older patients for visits and decided to charge $40 per visit cash no exceptions.

Yes WCA, many believe health care is a moral obligation of society. That is why of all the industrialized nations except 3 offer universal healthcare. Only Turkey, Mexico and United States are so backwards as to leave millions uninsured.

I'm neither nieve or stupid so I vote for contraseptives!!!!!

Hey TX Horseman,

I would say you are a VERY wise man!

Enjoy your weekend as well - snowing like hell here today!

Both airports pratically shut down!

So the obama regime has now ordered all health insurers to provide it's members birth control pills without ANY co-payments.

If this is true, then Obama just earned my vote. THANK YOU.

I have long said that we need to just sterilize the water and make people take an IQ test to procreate. This is the next best thing.

I am so sick of retards crapping out worthless kids over and over. Either take birth control or abort the damn thing, but stop forcing us to pay for them. If this means that one less retarded, red-neck, NASCAR loving, Coors light drinking, white-trash moron is born... then Obama won my vote.

Well Indie, buying your vote is exactly what he hoped for.

Congratulations.

It's the only chance he has to win.

To bad your parents weren't a little more, errr, careful.

White Collar Auto

Health care is a right?

Well, Health Care is a right, in every, every, every country in the world, except the richest.

Pull the plug out, sit back and think about this.

Is it just possible, that we got it wrong?

Is it just possible, that the humane thing, is single-payer?

is it just possible, that Obama is not a muslim communist, that what he represents, is the thing that God wants?

Just another example of why we don't need another Repub President for a long while. And the economy is turning around! Obama 2012.

GM should be # 1 We paid for it.Ford as best car's no Goverment money

Bill, the point is--we still have GM and Chrysler. 2008 caused a near Great Depression; it was an extraordinary time and required extraordinary measures that in a normal economy would not have been done. Despite what these republican presidential wannabees claim, their decision would have been NOT to allow millions more lost jobs; they, too, would have loaned the auto firms money to keep them going despite all their bluster on the campaign trail. It's easy to talk tough when the decision isn't yours. It's easy to oppose when millions of people's livlihoods are not in your hands. Those auto maker jobs also saved dealership jobs, car sales jobs, parts manufacturing jobs, and countless others with the domino affect.

I'll be in the market for 2 new vehicles by summer. One for the spouse and a truck for me. I can absolutely guarantee I will not be purchasing either a Government Motors or Chrysler vehicle. I already have my eye on a Ford truck and a Ford car. I guess my purchase counts as one vote against the government bailing out private enterprise using taxpayer dollars.

Great Point Amy.

So we are in for a cool $50 billion to keep those folks employed. Seems like a fantastic investment, cause you know GM is the only car company making cars in the US.

What's that, it is but one of many that make cars here? Huh.

Well in any event now that it's #1 it can hold an IPO and pay us back, right?

Jody - you just have no clue how BK works. and that's sad.

Mitt chews up a company and spits them out. Obama saves a company and they go on to be #1 in the world. Go figure.

Just Slap Me......Id love to for your sheer stupidity.

1) GM was first bailed out by Bush. That project was his baby. Obama just picked up the scraps of the project and the glory.

2) Romneys job in the private sector had absolutely nothing to do with building jobs. The objective of a business is to build a profit....not jobs. Why should he have created jobs? Thats not his responsibility in the private sector.

Liberals are poison and will bring this great nation to its knees by further spreading this filth without thinking.

Gee Corky,

1) So then, by your own logic, Bush IS responsible for the mess we're in?

2) And now which is it? First government's not responsible for jobs, now it's the private sector that's not responsible for jobs?

Another confused GOPer. Go figure.

Plain and simple, if Romney has nothing to hide, he should do as President Obama did in 2008 while running and show several years of tax returns.

it what month of 2008

He released them while the nomination process was ongoing, he released them when Hillary Clinton asked and released hers. He released them for the years 2000 through 2007 because 2008 wasn't over yet. Romney's opponents have asked he do the same as many of them have.

Obama may have released his taxes, but why didn't he release any information on his relationship with Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn? That would have been way more pertinent.

So, let me get this straight. To the right, ANYTHING that someone on the left does is bad. And conversely, to the left, ANYTHING the right does is bad. So, what happens to those in the middle?

Y'know ... I listened to an extended interview with Bill Ayers once. He's a real patriot. The criminals at the time (this was Vietnam in case you don't remember the reference) were the ones who killed 55,000 of America's best by sending them to a useless war. Bill Ayers was doing the right thing.

And besides, the connection with Bill Ayers is very transitory and insubstantial. So this attempted slur on President Obama is nothing more than a political lie for two different reasons.

Go crawl back under your rock!

@phine,

we duck.

phine,

We get screwed!

Porter, you already occupy the ground under the rock so I'll not be climbing in there with you.

With your mentality, anyone that strikes out against the government, for whatever reason is a hero? Do you consider Timothy McVeigh a hero? How about the two in Colombine? They were protesting something that irked them pretty bad.

The liberal revolution started during Viet Nam. Who started that war? Who escallated it? Why, I believe it was democrats... the very people that liberals side with. Who ended it? It was a republican... So take your crap to the democrat convention and protest them.

Bill Ayers is a terrorist against his own country. He bombed the Pentagon... Bernadette Dorn is a communist... Obama had a very tight relationship with them... In fact Obama started his political career with them at his side. Now let me set the rock back over your head... your liberal lies smell like crap.

comfort & totas

I'm just gonna hide.

phancy - there really isn't a middle. When you think about it, a person sides with one ideology or the other. Middle is a fancy way of saying that you don't 100% side with the ideology you favor. While many would consider me a hard core conservative because I have strong viewpoints, there are some conservative ideals I don't agree with. I know you feel the same way about your liberal views... there are some things you question, aren't sure of, or don't like at all.

There are some people that aren't sure of what ideology they believe in more... Issues confuse them. Those are the people that don't post on boards like this. Middle? It's an illusion. there's a hard line separating the right from the left even if you are 1 centimeter to one side of that line or the other, you can't say you are in the middle. The issues are too defining and you will believe one way or the other on any issue.

Maybe I should clarify a bit... and many of you might disagree with me, but again, this isn't scientific, it's my opinion. Each ideology, left and right have definite tenants. The right bases a lot of the ideology on being cerebral. Not to say that all those on the right are smart... it just means we think through things void of emotion. This sets the left on blaze, because the main thrust of the left is their emotionalism. I like to think I'm more like Spock - logical. Captain Kirk was emotional.

The funny thing about this is, our society works well with both different ideologies. Neither is better than the other, but both are needed. I would hate living in this country if everyone was on the right, or everyone was on the left.

Brian ...

Reading comprehension isn't your thing, is it?

Read my post again. I never wrote "Democrat" or "Republican". Democrats can be as wrong as anybody and Johnson ("chief" architect of the war, although some minor blame can be laid at the feet of both Eisenhower and Nixon) was wrong.

I can tell that you have never investigated Bill Ayers and what he said and believed in much. He was very careful to make sure that no one was ever injured in the one bomb. It was in a garbage bin and set to go off when no one would be around. And he now regrets going outside the boundaries of the law to make his point and wouldn't do it again. The point is, he was trying to stop America from compounding the horrible mistake they were making and history has proven him to be right. Since then, Ayers has gone on to a distinguished and productive career as an education specialist at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He sounds like the kind of guy I would really like to be associated with.

McVeigh, on the other hand, was cut from the same kind of conservative cloth as the people who kept us in Vietnam and he intended to kill people, not just make a dramatic point.

Just to make this complete, these are the only connections between Bill Ayers and Obama:

Mr. Ayers is listed as a member of the nine-member board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an offshoot of the Woods Charitable Fund, founded in 1941 by a prominent lawyer and telephone company executive. According to the fund's Web site, it has focused in recent years on "issues that affected the area's least advantaged, including welfare reform, affordable housing" and "tax policy as a tool in reducing poverty."

For a time, Mr. Obama was on the board with Mr. Ayers, though he no longer has a formal association with the group. At the debate, he described Mr. Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," but "not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis." Mr. Obama said he was being unjustly linked to "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."

The Washington Post also points out that Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's state senate reelection campaign in 2001.

Furthermore, there is zero connection with Bernardine Dohrn (If you're going to slur people with lies, learn to spell their name right, would ya!) other than that she is married to Bill. And here is Dohrn's thumbnail bio:

She is an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University School of Law and the immediate past Director of Northwestern's Children and Family Justice Center.

Real bad people, right?

Porter - it's not my reading comprehension that's a problem. It's the liberal viewpoint that I can't abide with. You have your perceived knowledge and I have mine. You support terrorist bombers and communists and I don't. You'll make up any excuse in the book to save Obama's face. It's as simple as that.

Greetings Brianb,

Your post #5.12: agreed, each side has it's own general tenets. I disagree with the characterization of the right tending to be more cerebral. I see plenty of conservatives displaying all sorts of emotion, apparently without thinking things through (evidenced by commentary on this site). I have friends, relatives and acquaintances of various political leanings, some of whom are more cerebral, and some of whom are more emotional. Everyone tends to display both characteristics at one time or another.

Agreed, also, that this would be a lousy place to live if everyone thought alike.

There is one simple fact that can be deduced from your last post. You exhausted your tiny store of insults and didn't have any other way to counter my facts.

Thanks! It was fun!

That was already paid back, with interest.

They paid it back, with interest.

Government Motors a "success"?

Only using phony government bookkeeping.

No one is buying the Chevy Volt.... the gaffe-prone overpriced failure, which untold billions were wasted on .

Gaffe-prone...maybe it should be called the "Bidenmobile" !

Ok. I am confused. So we WANT GM to fail and lots of people loss their jobs so the President looks bad, right? Or, do we want an American owned company succeed generating more jobs and money to the economy? You all have me so very confused.

Bob,

you do realize that the Volt is not the only vehicle they sell, right?

We all want success...but the Obama regime dissembles and creates phony numbers in claiming its ownership of GM is a success... it isnt.

We want a free market economy, which the American experience has shown to be the far superior model for economic growth and opportunity for all.

Statism fails! The Volt is a disaster...but somehow the government will buy a million or so, and then claim record sales...

Love the avatar Phine .. looks like a nice Cosmo!! I get confused by the auto industry bailout complaints as well. I thought we wanted to save American corporations and jobs. The early estimates of a GM failure predicted somewhere around 1 million job losses. I really can't see how that would helped the economy.

The Volt is hardly a disaster, its a product. Just because you don't like it or want one doesn't mean others don't. And I'm not sure how the government can buy a million or so when only 15,000 have been made.

The Volt is hardly a disaster

Dude they catch on fire

They catch on fire a month or two after they've been in an accident that would have totaled them. The crash tests in question left the cars undrivable, so its really a moot point. Can you point to one instance outside the lab where this has happened? And for your information, when this was brought to the attention of GM they offered to VOLUNTARILY fix any vehicle, and pay for a rental during repairs. Funny how you never answered how the government bought a million cars or which only 15,000 or so exist. Try doing some research before spouting regurgitated sound bites.

Only using phony government bookkeeping.

LOL!!!! Typical teatard answer. I don't want to believe something therefore it's not true and don't confuse me with facts.

I don't suppose any of you teatards remember that Reagan bailed out an auto company back in the 80s??? But then -- that's probably another FACT you want to deny.

Unfortunately, you might be right.

And Obama should follow other Presidents and release his college transcripts...just as relevent, dont you think?

Bob,

I think ANY presidential candidates college transcripts mean nothing to me. I am more interested in their last 10 years of income tax returns. (Remember, too, it was Mr. Romney's father that started all this brouhaha about tax returns)

Bob, Really? You got Obama's long form birth certificate, did that stop the birthers or the trumpster? You will just say they were fixed by some socialist, liberal... fill in the blanks. This vine is about Romney, he should release 12 years of tax returns like his father.

Actually, his taxes from the 1990's thru let's say 2002 would be more pertinent as to how he was paid and where the money went.

Hey Bob -- did Bush 43 or Clinton or Bush 41 or Reagan or Carter or Ford or Nixon or LBJ or JFK or Ike ever release their college transcripts??? The answer to that is NO.

I've been wishing I could ask an honest to God, evangelical, Republican, South Carolinian, how they can possibly vote for an adulterous, thrice married, ehtics-challenged politican like Newt Gingrich and still go on about "family values?" I mean this seriously.

I'd like to ask them how they can boo the golden rule on national tv and cheer the death penalty like they were at a football game and still call themselves Christian. If they were a true Christian they would vote for Ron Paul.

Amy,

They believe in redemption.

@randy-589984.. that crowd that was booing as you stated. Were not people from SC..they were brought in by fox- xxx...I have an report from CNN on the polls for Ron in SC debate, the second one where true Carolinian were there........... as stated: "CNN reports Ron Paul 0%, while online polls shows him at 75%. They are begging for an REVOLUTION!!!!!" second report as stated: "CNN Correspondent Say's is worried Ron Paul candidacy will continue"........... GO RON PAUL our Next President of the United States!!!!!!!!!!

You can forgive a sinner without putting them in the highest office in the land.

My dad lost $100k in bonds that he was counting on for his retirement. Now everything is a tight financial struggle for him. Thanks for nothing President Obama. As far as I'm concerned, he can piss off!!

What are you, a child? The financial crisis of 2007 was the result of the housing bubble bursting after banks bundled bad loans with good and sold them to unsuspecting investors. None of that was the result of anything Obama did, it occured before he took office. The seven trillion dollars of taxpayer money spent in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over Bush's two terms wiped out the surplus left by the last Democratic President. You want to blame Obama for your Dad's financial losses? You think Obama has a magic wand he could have waved over the mess the Republicans left behind? You are childish.

If you pick Romney because he "creates" jobs (which was not his job at Bain, it was to make investors money), you must believe that government CAN create jobs, which Mitt himself says is not possible. Which is it?

Gov't can't create jobs. End of story. It has to come from the private sector. So far Obama has lost 2 million jobs in his 3 years of Presidency. It's all about small biz since small biz will never send it's jobs overseas. They, instead, hire their neighbors. And Barry wanted to add additional taxes to small business. Seriously, how stupid is this guy??

So far Obama has lost 2 million jobs in his 3 years of Presidency.

Source for this accusation please...

Exactly right Detroit-Storm. It's sickening to watch folks worship these self serving jerks who offer nothing different and push nothing but hypocracy. Ron Paul for me....I don't give a crap if he is the nominee or not in the fall. I will wrtie him in before I vote for one of two corporate hand picked candidates whose only difference is the type of bulls--t they spew.

Google it ...... it is fact.

What is his source for having "saved or created 2 million jobs?"

Oh that's right, the government. Such a trustworthy source.

Google it ...... it is fact.

Sorry pal - you made the accusation it is up to YOU to back it up...

If you are unable to do so - I call bull@!$%#!

Check out the Time Magazine article.

Obama blames his image of being aloof and cold on the media and his OWN daughters.

How funny is that?

If you Google "Obama blames" you get like 10 MILLION hits......buck stops elsewhere

Gov't can't create jobs. End of story.

Government DOES create jobs, End of Story!!

http://www.usajobs.gov/

Obama blames.....

oops make that 23 Million 700 thousand hits on google

Zman

Get your facts straight. Obama saved millions of jobs due to his stimulus. In fact, some people say he should have made the stimulus bigger. Your facts must come from FOX Noise. Whatever jobs were lost were due to Bush/Cheney policies, not Obama.

As for Willard, he will lose South Carolina to Newt. And Florida will be a toss up. I think in the end, Willard will up as the nominee but the Tea Party nutjobs will be so frustrated that there will be a 3rd party candidate (Ron Paul) Either way, Willard will limp into the Presidential race greatly wounded and will not win in November. The Dems will also win back the House and will retain the Senate.

Redskin,

there is also the possibility that the Tea Party and Evangelicals will revolt and pick their own guy (or gal) to put up. This thing is starting to look like a game of tag..

That's a great post. What are you .... in 3rd grade?

Who won the independent vote in New Hampshire? (hint: Romney came in second.) Who came in second to Obama in the new Hampshire democratic primary? (hint: in both answers his initials are RP)

"CNN reports Ron Paul 0%, while online polls shows him at 75%. They are begging for an REVOLUTION!!!!!" second report as stated: "CNN Correspondent Say's is worried Ron Paul candidacy will continue"........... GO RON PAUL our Next President of the United States!!!!!!!!!!

How do you know his money's in the Caymens ... you his banker?? What a dumb statement.

It was reported on the national news and after the South Carolina debate one of the commentators also made a statement about his wealth in the Caymen Island banks.

If you stay up on current events you wont be telling someone their statement is dumb when its been all over the news and seems to be common knowledge in the media.

well, you're about one thing--Fox supposedly reports the news.

Given my last post and that pix ... you know what I'm thinking!!!

I voted for liberty, not despotism in 2000 and 2004--but Bush/Cheney won both times....

Obama is not a despot, nor a Socialist. Unfortunately there are far too many uneducated, low-information, or misinformed people who vote according to their media propagandists or simply because "their daddy" voted a certain way. And there is not doubt that prejudice and racism "colors" the votes of a lot of Americans. (I know, I lived in Texas for 6 years.)

That being said, as a dual citizen, I moved back to Canada this year, and am enjoying universal healthcare, clean air, clean cities, lower crime rates, and friendlier people. Canada isn't perfect, as no society is, but the US is rightfully near the bottom of the list of industrialized nations in many respects.

(And FYI ... don't bother with the childish remarks about "please revoke your US citizenship, and stay in Canada ... good riddance ... blah-blah-blah." It makes you look simple-minded and perhaps a little envious?)

Yep ... Obama promised change. What happened to that?? All his campaign promises never kept. He is really just a "bag of wind" But, I agree .... we need change. Away from the Dems and big Gov't. It isn't working.

South Carolinians: VOTE FOR "NONE OF THE ABOVE" in the Republican primary by VOTING for Herman Cain / Stephen Colbert!!!!

Z-Man: In spite of the obstructionist tea-partiers vigorously trying to fillibuster and block ANY positive change, Obama has:

1) Got us out of Iraq

2) Got MILLIONS of uninsured Americans access to health insurance

3) Rescued our country out of an impending financial collapse

oh, and managed to CAPTURE AND KILL BIN LADEN.

What are you talking about .... I'm dong quite well. Speak for your lazy self.

Zman, I'm doing quite well also thanks to the Republican party.