Montana governor blames Nebraska - not Obama - for Keystone rejection

Not all supporters of the Keystone XL oil pipeline are blaming President Obama after he rejected the project proposal yesterday.

One example: Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D).

“What the State Department is tasked with doing is getting a complete application that says, ‘Here is the pipeline being proposed.’ But unfortunately, in an unprecedented way, the governor of Nebraska called a special session, changed the laws in Nebraska so that TransCanada no longer has a route, and there’s been no permit granted in Nebraska,” Schweitzer said today on MSNBC’s "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

Because the pipeline route is not yet approved in Nebraska, President Obama had no choice but to strike down the proposal, Gov. Schweitzer explained.

“In Nebraska, they say it’s going to be at least six months, maybe a year before they can actually grant a permit. And yet we’re standing before the administration and saying to them, ‘We have an inadequate application, it’s not complete, we don’t know where the route is, so we can’t tell you how big the pipeline will be or where it’s going to be delivered to, now we want you to give us approval.’”

He added, “These jokers in Congress that are trying to force the president to approve of an incomplete application are just making mischief. They’re not helping us develop energy,” he said.

Montana, where the employment rate is below the national average at 7.1%, has a particular interest in seeing the pipeline built -- so that its oil can reach the refineries on the Gulf coast and make it to market, Gov. Schweitzer explained.

“As the chief executive of Montana, if they asked me to approve of a pipeline with an incomplete application, I would have to reject it. And I am the biggest proponent of this pipeline in America,” he said.

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Not Bad, 7 hours after the show aired, MSNBC's colleague's have finally seen why President Obama had No choice.

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Occupy SoggyBottom!

  • 9 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST

GOP/Koch:

"...We don't know where the route is, so we can't tell you how big the pipeline will, be or where it's going to be delivered to."

But Boehner & the Braggadacio's want Approval...for what?

Ain't nothing to be approved of yet.

  • 14 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:19 PM EST

Whats the rush? The oily sand isn't gonna just walk off. Threaten to sell it to China; gasoline is this year's biggest export anyway so whats the big deal?

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#1.2 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:52 AM EST

If that's true, it makes the Republicans look really silly on this issue. They are jumping up and down to criticize the president for not approving a pipeline route that hasn't yet been fully planned out.

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#1.3 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:57 AM EST

He added, “These jokers in Congress that are trying to force the president to approve of an incomplete application are just making mischief. They’re not helping us develop energy,” he said.

Thank you, Governor Schweitzer, for telling it like it is. The American people deserve to know the reality of this situation, not just the negative "job killing" soundbites from the GOP and Big Oil.

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#1.4 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:39 AM EST

I find it ironic that suddenly our president, much out of character in light of past speeches and actions, is suddenly acknowledging and supporting state sovereignity. Although individual states did not want the right of decision wrested from them regarding public access to health care, the Obama health program did just that, and when states tried to have their cause heard by the supreme court under state sovereignity as granted in the constitution, it was shot down unceremoniously.....but the pipeline and the little matter of an incomplete application-well, suddenly, we are all about the rules, aren't we?

    #1.5 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST
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    Dear Gov. Heineman,

    Thank you.

    Dear Gov. Schweitzer,

    Rethink your position quickly. I don't think the Gulf Coast wants more oil sent to it.

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    Reply#2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:17 PM EST

    Interesting that the governor who has self appointed himself as the guardian of the truth is also a Democrat who might just have a bit of a political agenda aside from providing less costly energy and jobs....also, stop and look at the industries that are prevalent out in Montana......isn't coal producing high on the list of resources? And a pipeline would probably eat into the coal producing profitability...and if the pipeline goes through Nebraska (or they would like it to go through Nebraska) doesn't that kind of bypass Montana entirely (mind you, I haven't seen the proposed maps for the pipeline route, but am wondering is sour grapes is a motivation for calling out the governor of Nebraska for "leaving our president with not alternatives")

      #2.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST
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      “What the State Department is tasked with doing is getting a complete application that says, ‘Here is the pipeline being proposed.’ But unfortunately, in an unprecedented way, the governor of Nebraska called a special session, changed the laws in Nebraska so that TransCanada no longer has a route, and there’s been no permit granted in Nebraska,” Schweitzer said today on MSNBC’s "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

      Republicans: "No! No! Our talking points! Our precious talking points! Now what do we do?"

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      Reply#3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:40 PM EST

      hope your right, but i believed the gov recieved so much backlash that they were afraid they would lose their jobs! don't know many pubs who turn down money coming in the back door?

        #3.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST
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        Dem Governor dissembling and taking one for the team...he will be rewarded for this by the Obama reelection team.

        The only ones gullible enough to buy this are the koolaid drinking moonbats at First Read.

        The moonbats seem extra nervous about Keystone, dont they? This is a perfect example of Obama's antibusiness anti private sector zealotry.It will hurt the Obama reelection effort in the Midwest, big time.

        MSNBC will ignore this issue as much as it can. Like Solyndra. Shhhhh.....

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        Reply#4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:56 PM EST

        Simple solution, build a refinery in Montana or the Dakotas. There hasn't been a refinery built in the US since the 70s. The only reason they want to build a pipeline to the gulf coast is so the refined products can be exported to South America. But yes our government should approve a pipeline that will literally divide the country in two as it will extend from the Canadian border all the way to the gulf of Mexico. The pipeline will not benefit the US beyond creating a few hundred jobs to maintain the pipeline. It will for a very limited time create a few thousand jobs while it is being built. While it creates some jobs, it does so at what expense? If the pipeline is only going to create a negligible amount of jobs, then is it going to have an impact on the price of gasoline for consumers? No, it won't. Most if not all of the gasoline is going to be exported. Maybe you missed the story, but in 2011 the US actually exported gasoline. Unless exportation is prevented, which we all know will never be allowed as it is anti-free market, this pipeline will have no impact on the price of gasoline.

        To me it sounds a lot like the oil companies raping the American population yet again, so they can add a few billion more dollars to their pocket at the potential expense of water supplies in the center of American along with our food supply. Brilliant idea, protect the interest of oil billionaires at the risk of our food supply.

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        #4.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:26 PM EST

        Are you calling the Governor of Montana a liar?

        Are you telling us there was no special session of the legislature in Nebraska just before Thanksgiving?

        (There was.)

        Are you asking us to believe that the legislature did not pass two bills that directly affected the Keystone XL project?

        (They did.)

        Are you suggesting that Governor Heineman, a Republican, didn't sign those bills into law?

        (He did.)

        Here...allow yourself to be enlightened.

        www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/11/01/nebraska-legislature-begins-special-session-on-keystone-xl/

        www.kfbb.com/news/local/Nebraskas-Special-Session-Over-Keystone-XL-Pipeline-Ends-Tuesday-134221938.html

        www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/22/us-oil-pipeline-nebraska-idUSTRE7AL1M120111122

        Oh, my...it appears that Nebraska exercised a little "States Rights" on Keystone XL!

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        #4.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:33 PM EST

        Oh, my...it appears that Nebraska exercised a little "States Rights" on Keystone XL!

        And why would the people of Nebraska do this? Because they realize the pipeline to be the sham that it is. They know it will not benefit their state and will actually pose a risk to them.

        I bet if the pipeline was in Bob's backyard then he would be objecting. Amazing how people are for something as long as it does not impact them directly.

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        #4.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:51 PM EST

        Thank you Greg in New York! No doubt, if the new jobs are this important then we need to build those refineries in states directly across the border from Canada - no need to tear up the middle of the US by running the pipeline all the way to the gulf coast and texas. There would be no new jobs in texas as they would use refineries already in place, if you are gonna preach new jobs, then walk the walk don't just talk the talk. Isn't it funny, republicans are all for states rights until it upsets their oil cart!

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        #4.4 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST

        Potentially rewarded for taking one for the team and then promptly thrown under the nearest bus after the election season is over and usefulness is completely forgotten. If you have noted, Obama's "closest advisors" don't have a long political lifespan before resigning, stepping down, or otherwise being absented from his exalted presence

          #4.5 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM EST

          If we are going to complain about the pipeline being used as a route to send the oil to South and Central America....I can only ask, to what purpose as it certainly cannot be done more cheaply than oil is being produced in Venezuela already....And what about NAFTA. The big impetus for that was because our "good neighbor" Mexico has a ton of petroleum reserves and was going to provide us with energy to make us less dependent upon the Middle East, and they were going to provide markets for our manufacturing and consumer goods and they were going to provide markets for our farmers, and it was going to be so great for the American economy....Under NAFTA, we are forced to take substandard import goods into competition with our own manufacturing-and I assure you that the businesses in Mexico and Central and South America do not pay workers what would be deemed as a "fair wage" in this country, so the products are undermining our economy. We are hurting our own farmers because we have to take so much produce from these other sources....And by the way, has anybody noticed how often salmonella is in the news relating to produce products? Doesn't anyone remember the scandal about tainted grains coming from China, showing up in dog food and killing off pets???? What if those grains had shown up in human consumption products? Anyway, why should the Pipeline be the specific province of Conservative scam....NAFTA was a democratic project all the way.

            #4.6 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:55 PM EST
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            Seems to me before building a pipeline that could effect my water, etc. I would want someone to darn well make sure it was safe. Getting the facts seems like a reasonable thing to do. However, from what I see, it is just another political game to the folks in Washington.

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            Reply#5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:01 PM EST

            But which folks in Washington are choosing to make it another political game? There is only one party that is pushing the immediate approval of the pipeline. The other is saying the application is not yet ready and therefore rejecting it as it currently exists.

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            #5.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:08 PM EST

            I concede, the GOP. They want something to look like they are creating jobs (even if the number is much lower than they are claiming). Hey, I agree they need to halt the pipeline until all the facts are in. A lot more needs to be known about it. I just hate the partisan politics of it all, that's all. And partisan politics is the game currently being played.

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            #5.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:17 PM EST

            "They want something to look like they are creating jobs (even if the number is much lower than they are claiming"

            And how is that different than the current administration spinning the monthly unemployment figures to not include those whose unemployment benefits have expired, or who didn't qualify in the first place, or who accepted work at a much lesser pay level than previously, or were employed in seasonal or temporary work only?????

              #5.3 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:58 PM EST
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              Hey! There is a smart man who has all the data to review on this subject and has made his comments public. unfortunately the extremes will cry about no jobs when the Congress and certain governors make poor decisions. Way to go Gov. Brian Schweitzer!

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              Reply#6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:22 PM EST

              This pipeline is "for the states to decide". That seems to be a panacea. Republicans don't want less government, they want 50 governments. The Supreme Court would soon become the most active branch of government.

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              Reply#7 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:21 AM EST

              Re-read the Constitution of the United States please. Obviously, you were absent when they discussed the forming of this country which was predicated on the states being able to maintain individual identity and creating a union with one another. It is called state sovereignity and is a large part of why people choose to live or locate their work and companies as they do. States have the ability to competitively offer alternatives in lifestyle and resources.

                #7.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:01 PM EST
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                more propaganda by the white house. the forced this guy to say this cause

                OBOMBO is finally getting heat from his failed green agenda!!!! liberal media BS!

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                Reply#8 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:46 AM EST

                Interesting that you ignore the fact the Republican Governor of Nebraska has repeatedly said no to the current route for months.

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                #8.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:11 AM EST
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                One question that has not been clearly answered yet is; why do they want to build this pipeline across the USA? Wouldn't it be less hassle, expense, and environmentally safe to refine and export it in Canada? Why didn't they have all the support from the states before it was taken to Congress or the President? Why wouldn't an oil business in the USA just buy the crude at the border and control the refining and selling? This would pretty much guarantee that it would benefit the USA with jobs and revenue. Canada has access to oceans; why is the gulf so important? By now, they should know the basic number of American jobs and revenue this would bring in to the USA; why do they always speak as though it is only speculation? The basic questions: What exactly does the USA expect to gain? What exactly are the risks to the environment, the people, the economy, and the security of our country? Why does a Canadian oil company want to invest in a pipeline across the USA so badly?

                  Reply#9 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:47 AM EST

                  Our government has been about shutting down refineries...."we want the oil, but we don't want the mess that goes along with making it usable" "We don't want the environmental responsibility" and that translates into, we don't want the oil at a reasonable price and we don't want the jobs that go with it. The supposed "green" politicians are actually pushing for alternative energy sources that they can control to the same extent that they accuse the oil industry of controlling and profitting. Oil and coal are villified, because they can't rake in the profits for themselves. So we have to force new technologies (which are largely inefficient and haven't yet had the bugs worked out) to make people buy our stuff and make us rich instead of the "evil robber barons" of the fossil fuel industry. Who cares if the cost of the "green" energy puts it well beyond the reach of most working Americans, because they can force us to buy it and thereby enrich their coffers through legislation designed "to protect the environment".....The only environment being protected is the oppulence of the ruling elite in Washington.

                    #9.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:06 PM EST
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                    As no one else seems to be paying attention to the details, part of the reason the application was rejected is the environmental study originally done for the State Department was made by a company called Cardno Entrix, which was selected by TransCanada itself, who are listed as a major client. When this was made public, the State Dept's inspector general launched an investigation of the permit process. Nothing like a little corporate conflict of interest.

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                    Reply#10 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:04 PM EST

                    So, in essence, the state of Nebraska wanted a second opinion on impact to the environment, if I understand correctly....and the liberal, environmental protectionists, are going to lynch the governor of Nebraska as the bad guy, so Obama can look like the hero for shooting down the pipeline....Talk about spin doctoring.

                      #10.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:09 PM EST
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                      Comment author avatarPatrick Ebnitvia Facebook

                      Obama could have approved the pipeline. the only part the federal government has a say in is where it crosses the border from canada to montana. the nebraska portion isn't up to the state department. they are talking about building the U.S part anyway and should have an answer on the nebraska route by as early as september.

                        Reply#11 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST

                        The liberal media and Dems will do anything they can to cover for Obama's anti-job mentality.

                          Reply#12 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:31 AM EST

                          Only in the lunacy of the liberal world does it make sense to say, "I decided against the pipeline, but it's the other guys' fault it was rejected."

                            Reply#13 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:37 AM EST

                            How dumb are we? We elected a man who has never in his life led anything, was in charge of anything or worked a day in his life. And it shows by his actions. This is our president and some of you want to reelect him? This guy is the worst we ever had. As to Newt Gingrich, he is a pig and has no honor I wouldn't trust him. Santorum is a religious nut and Paul is a visitor from another planet. That leaves Romney as the only logical choice. So there we have it. As to those making an issue about Romney's money; remember he didn't steal it, he earned it. He was and is an astute business man which is the American way.

                              Reply#14 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:50 PM EST

                              I don't think that this pipeline is a very good idea. How about we do as another poster mentioned and just build a refinery in Montana? Or have Canada refine it. Why does it have to cross thousands of miles to a pre-existing plant? This just doesn't make sense to me. Thank God Nebraskans were using their brains!

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