Romney and Gingrich battle to clear hurdles to nomination in GOP debate

At Thursday's Republican presidential debate in South Carolina, Newt Gingrich slammed the news media for focusing on accusations by his ex-wife that he requested an "open marriage." NBC's Peter Alexander reports.

 

Updated 10:07 p.m.

Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, each battling furiously for a win in Saturday's South Carolina primary, pointedly questioned each other's experience to be president, while being forced to account for standing questions about the challenges they face to winning the nomination and beating President Obama.

The two leading candidates in South Carolina's primary this weekend largely avoided sniping at each other in the first half hour of the debate -- a spirited affair less than 36 hours before voting begins in the Palmetto State -- but engaged each other more directly as the evening progressed.


Gingrich was pressed to explain his past support for a mandate for individuals to purchase health insurance, and his manner of leadership as speaker of the House, a tenure described by critics as erratic.

But Gingrich scored early -- and decisively -- with a fiery response to allegations from an ex-wife that drew wild applause from the crowd in attendance.

Romney, meanwhile, had to defend his business record and answer questions as to why he wouldn't release his income tax records, all while relitigating conservative criticism of the health care reform he signed as governor of Massachusetts.

Through this, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, crowned the winner this morning of the Iowa Caucuses after a retabulation of results, was anxious to take on both Romney and Gingrich, distinguishing himself as a steady if not-flashy alternative to the two leading candidates.

The Republican presidential field may be smaller, with Jon Huntsman and Rick Perry recently dropping out, but that's not stopping the fireworks on the campaign trail ahead of South Carolina's primary on Saturday. NBC's Chuck Todd takes a look at what may be next.

The debate, the 17th of the cycle, followed one of the most dramatic days of the 2012 campaign. Thursday saw Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s exit from the campaign trail, new extramarital allegations against Gingrich, polling data showing Romney’s advantage slipping in South Carolina, and a new declaration by the Iowa GOP anointing former Santorum – not Romney – the winner of its Jan. 3 caucus after certifying official results.

Perry drops out of GOP presidential race, endorses Gingrich

The tone of the forum was set early when Gingrich angrily assailed CNN moderator John King for opening the debate by asking Gingrich to answer allegations made by his ex-wife, Marianne, in an interview with ABC News, saying the then-speaker of the House asked to engage in an "open marriage," or else he would file for divorce.

"I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate with a topic like that," Gingrich said, earning wild applause from the audience. "To take an ex-wife and make it two days before the primary a significant question in a presidential campaign is as close to despicable as anything I can imagine."

Gingrich angrily rebuffs questions about ex-wife

Gingrich disputed the allegations as "false," and his three fellow Republicans onstage resisted piling on. ("Let's get on to the real issues," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said.)

Recent pollng of the race suggests that Gingrich has been enjoying a late surge in South Carolina, one that could threaten Romney's bid for a win that, his campaign hopes, would all but seal the nomination for the former Massachusetts governor.

An NBC News-Marist poll released Thursday found Romney leading at 34 percent among likely primary voters in the state, followed by Gingrich at 24 percent, Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 16 percent, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 14 percent, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry at 4 percent. But in the latter half of the two-day poll, following Gingrich's strong performance during a Monday debate, Romney's lead winnowed to five points.

NBC poll: Newt Gingrich gains ground on Mitt Romney in South Carolina
 
South Carolina has correctly predicted the eventual Republican nominee since the inception of its primary in 1980; in each subsequent contest, the winner has gone on to become the GOP standard-bearer.

Romney has sought to project an air of inevitability surrounding his candidacy, but has been dogged by questions about the business practices of Bain Capital, the private equity firm he cofounded, that go to the core of his argument that he is the candidate most experienced to repair the U.S. economy. Romney's work for Bain also made him wealthy, and Romney's GOP rivals have pressed him to release his tax returns.

He dealt with both issues Thursday evening. Romney sought to explain Bain's work in greater detail, highlighting instances in which its work created jobs. He avoided engaging with Republicans, like Gingrich, who have questioned Romney's private sector record.

"I'm someone who believes in free enterprise," he said. "And I'm going to stand and defend capitalism across this country, throughout this campaign. I know we're going to get hit hard from President Obama, but we're going to stuff it down his throat and point out it is capitalism and freedom that makes America strong."

Romney also faced pressure to release his tax returns. He said he would release records -- going back an unspecified number of "multiple" years -- but not until April, by which time the primary may well be settled.

It was Santorum, though, who put the most pointed questions to the two frontrunners. Santorum, who served in Congress while Gingrich was speaker, raised questions about whether Gingrich's conduct as a leader would lead to a "worrisome moment" for the GOP.

"Grandiosity has never been a problem with Newt Gingrich. He handles it very, very well," Santorum said, later adding: "I knew what the problems were going on in the House of Representatives when Newt Gingrich was leading there. It was an idea a minute, no discipline, no ability to be able to pull things together."

That exchange opened up a broader, sharper discussion between the candidates on their backgrounds. Romney characterized Gingrich as a lifelong insider, and again touted his business experience as the best qualification for his candidacy.

"I was in business 25 years. So you're not going to get credit for my 25 years," Romney said. "I don't recall a single day saying, 'Oh, thanks heavens Washington is there for me.'"

But Romney was also put on the spot by Santorum, and later, Gingrich, over his record in Massachusetts. Gingrich accused Romney of continuing to support abortions even after having announced his opposition to abortion rights. And Santorum went on the attack on Massachusetts health care reform.

"It is not a free-market health care system. It is not bottom-up. It is prescriptive and government. It was the basis for Obamacare," Santorum said.

Romney stumbled at moments and offered wonky answers in response to the criticism, repeatedly vowing that, for whatever his past record shows, he would govern in opposition to abortion rights.

"I did my very best to be a pro-life governor. I will be a pro-life president," Romney said. 

Texas Rep. Ron Paul at times fell to the background, having to make quips at moment about not being afforded an opportunity to join the scrum onstage.  At one point, when the moderator was ready to move on after a question on abortion, the crowd complained that Paul hadn't been given an opportunity to answer.

The debate came after one of the most momentus days in the campaign. Perry ended his bid for the nomination and threw his support behind Gingrich, who has shown signs of revival in South Carolina, and who has sought to rally conservatives under the banner of being the best alternative to Romney.

That narrative shaped Thursday night's debate, which saw Gingrich engage in frequent crowd-pleasing answers, dropping references to Ronald Reagan and taking frequent shots at the media.

Whether Romney did much to reverse his slide likely won't be known until Saturday, when South Carolinians head to the polls. Debate settings have been a strength for Gingrich, and he, Paul and Santorum have relished the opportunity to pile on Romney in these settings. (Another debate is scheduled for Monday night in Florida.)

The debate, hosted by CNN and the Southern Republican Leadership Conference, was broadcast at 8 p.m. ET.

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Republicans count on superstition instead of facts in most everything they do. They are looking for trickle-down to begin as the prophet said and that if they repeat a lie often enough it will become truth. Voodoo economics is still believed, even though, under Bush they created doodoo economics. Some have claimed that the president was born 3700 miles outside his mother's body.

I particularly relate to the one about lowering taxes on the wealthy creates jobs. Really? It seems to have uncreated jobs instead. But that also may be due to their recession, which was caused by the tiny Obama voices in their heads while they ran up five trillion dollars in national debt as Obama controlled their runaway spending party. Then, without their approval, the economy crashed and ran up over a trillion in emergency spending to stop the hemorrhaging.

They have a box of pins with different color heads. Each pin stands for one of their stupid actions. They believe that they will be guiltless if they can stick each one into Obama's back, point their fingers, and say, "He did it". Obama is generous and tries to get along, but he knows God did not place him on the planet to die for their sins.

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Reply#51 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:01 PM EST

Afinity..republicans are nothing but thugs with crosses..a disgrace to the nation and to Christianity and I with the entire bunch could be "raptured" asap..

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#51.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:09 PM EST
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I want Gingrich to beat the crap out of Romney..and I want him to get the nomination...then we can have an election and decide once and for all the direction we want this nation to go..

    Reply#52 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM EST

    Couldn't they have just titled the article the "Final Four"? Then they could do a story about Obama filling out his brackets.

      Reply#53 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM EST
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      Morons if anyone votes for anyone running you're a @!$%#ing idiot and you deserve to get what you get! They are all crooked idiots like bush...nixon....and the rest of the @!$%#ing idiots who thought they could spell their name and leave their mark on this county.....America you are the embarassment!!! Suck it up and fight for your @!$%#ing rights and stop bitching. If you dont' fight you fail...like bush and his moron followers..yeah...he couldn't even finish a sentence...let me put it into words you'll understand...um...stop...we...need america..stop we need rights...lost...patiriot act...terroism pot....blah um....Yeah you idiots you did this to our country and now its time to suck it up and take it in the ass like the bitches you are.

      America fights...they don't give up and let the idiots make the decisions..oh wait....republican=war...hmmmm yeah deny it you idiots! i know you will! democrat=rights and empty promises...go ahead...deny it....Try being american! morons...

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      Reply#54 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:03 PM EST

      Gingrich has just become "UNELECTABLE" !!

      Since when does the American public choose a creepy, swinging, open marriage type for the U.S. Presidency?

      Really ?!! Wow folks,...the GOP has REALLY lowered the bar.

      Have we lost all respect for anyything but money ? If the GOP doesn't question his character,...you have to question their character as a whole.

      I mean,..SERIOUSLY !! It is an embarassment.

      Newt Gingrich,..."Mr Family Values".

      Yikes !!!

      • 4 votes
      Reply#55 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:04 PM EST

      There is still only one viable candidate among this group....Dr. Paul! He speaks the truth whether you like it or not. He doesn't collect SS, he doesn't collect his government pension & he returns $$ from his Congressional office budget every year!

      No, not all of his ideas are fantastic or even workable but at least he makes people think and he does have some good ideas...like getting rid of the Federal Reserve!

      • 1 vote
      Reply#56 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:05 PM EST

      Ignoring Ron Paul will backfire. Mitt and Newt and Santorum will destroy each other. In the end only Ron Paul will have enough credibility left. This is the reason why Ron Paul is the only one that stands a chance against Obama.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#57 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:06 PM EST

      Ron Paul has more military support then all the other GOP candidates combined. Perhaps someone should ask them why instead of making up nonsense that Ron Paul is not strong on national defense. Also take a serious look at our behavior the last few decades. Any defense happen there or just stirring up a lot of crazies to hate America making us less safe? And were those thousands of young men and woman dead and tens of thousands maimed worth it just so we could build a ridiculous vatican sized embassy in Iraq?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#58 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:07 PM EST

      jUST----Maybe it's because Ron Paul wasn't a draft dodger and served as a doctor in the Vienam war. While Romney's Daddy sent him off for missionary work in France (1966) for 30 months. Plus old Newt was a draft dodger also.

      • 4 votes
      #58.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:17 PM EST
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      Ron Paul 2012! The rest are what got us here,15 trillion plus in dept. Obama the man who,s mission is to destroy our country(well thats what it seems like)

        Reply#59 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:07 PM EST

        What a joke a day of drama ??? what drama ???? perry dropped out is drama ??? the libs news dug up newts old wife to say the same thing she said 2 years ago ??? or biden telling S.F. fans that N.Y. is going to when the superbowl ....lol ...nobody cares but the libs trying to make something out of nothing.

          Reply#60 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:08 PM EST

          really? you people are stupid... no one is expecting romney to be cheating on his taxes... they are expecting him to report an amount so ridiculous, that it makes him look bad, and on top of that, take "legal" but "immoral" ways to cut his taxes down.

          Basically the idea is to proof whether or not romney pays a less % than the average person who pays taxes.

          Learn something for once before opening up your idiot mouths

            Reply#61 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:08 PM EST

            "While he's [Ron Paul] struggled to win over the large bloc of military-minded voters in South Carolina..." It's crazy, the difference between the opinion among "military-minded" people and people who are actually in the military based on their monetary contributions.

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            Reply#62 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:09 PM EST

            I love it. Lets see who will out white each other. Thats all the republican party has now. As a Irish white I hope all other irish whites see thru these anglo-saxon whites the republican party has become.

            Obama 2012

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            Reply#63 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:11 PM EST

            lol ... well stop calling obuma blk will you hes not his grandfather was hes arab and wht ....... but it makes all you libs feel good to say you have a blk man in the wht house ..what a crock .

              #63.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:16 PM EST

              he actually isn't arab at all... do you really make love to your own family members that often?

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              #63.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:22 PM EST
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              What is there to debate. We already know that romney and gingrich are whores and cheaters and liars. Ron Paul, on the other hand has ethics, great ideas, and will get rid of the stinking FED and the stinking IRS. Why would I vote for a globalist puppet like romney or gingrich. One would be insane to vote for either of them.

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              Reply#64 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM EST

              But you voted for Obama/Biden and every time one of them open their mouths they stick both feet in them, ROFLOL. Biden opened his and was rooting for the Giants in 49'ner land. The man can't even figure out where he is and his boss isn't any better after visiting all 57 states Odumbo believes there is, ROTFLOL,ROTFLOL!!!

              ABO= anybody but Obama.

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              #64.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:25 PM EST

              Ron Paul ? Is he a conservative Republican?

                #64.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:25 PM EST

                Are you joking? Or are your serious that you dont know who Ron Paul is? Im not being rude, honest question.

                Ron Paul for President

                • 1 vote
                #64.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                Don't vote for either write in who you wish had run. Your candidate won't win but you'll have put your two cents in.

                  #64.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST
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                  Only thing have wondered about this, where are the Democract cauces/debates? Isn't there anyone challenging Pres. Obama in Democrat party? Seems they are divided some, someone must want to be next president.

                    Reply#65 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:22 PM EST

                    political suicide to challenge an incumbent in their own party.

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                    #65.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:30 PM EST
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                    they all suck..... both partys. will not vote this year.. sick of all of them dot heads are taking over this country

                      Reply#66 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:26 PM EST

                      Then you won't be able to post your dislikes for four years, maybe time to get yourself an education, just saying, not being insulting.

                        #66.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:33 PM EST

                        i have an education i am just saying look at the place you buy your gas what is behind the counter? and they don't pay taxes for five years then they give it too the next one in line.

                        • 1 vote
                        #66.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:02 PM EST
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                        Wow, there is gonna be fireworks tonight.

                          Reply#67 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST

                          Gingrich is going to drop like a two ton balloon (hey, no never mind....) after the interview tonight with his ex. Women will not vote for him. Trust me, "open marriage" is always something cheating men want after they have already been committing adultery. They want to see if they can have it all -- what overwhelming ego!

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                          Reply#68 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:28 PM EST

                          I wonder if South Carolina is going to follow Iowa's lead?

                          Missing Romney ballots

                          That way there is no question about "Hanging Chads"... Well done Iowa conservatives, jolly well done!

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#69 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:30 PM EST

                          Come on Ron Paul!! Hopefully he gets asked a question other than foreign policy or a question about if the drug laws are racist tonight in SC! Foreign policy is really the only thing that R's disagree with him on and thr drug policy is a loaded question in SC where the R's are 99% white. He needs to keep his answers short and sweet though. I'm a big Dr. Paul fan, but debates are not his strong point IMHO. He's okay, but he's long winded and uses too many big words for the average American. He's not not a sound bite guy but if you are interested in substance and consistency he's your man!!

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#70 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:31 PM EST

                          Ron will lay the "Golden Rule" foreign policy on them

                          • 1 vote
                          #70.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:33 PM EST
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                          I'm a swinger in the political field. I only vote for what I see as the best, be it republician or democrat. If Ron Paul wins on the republican ticket, I would be a confused puppy on which way on voting. If it's Romney or Newt, I would be 100% for President Obama.

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#71 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:32 PM EST

                          So is Newt,,, He likes "swinging"

                          I wonder how all the conservative's men folk would feel if their wives cheated on them?

                          That would be an excellent question for the next debate host to ask the candidates

                          • 1 vote
                          #71.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:34 PM EST

                          Deb,

                          Thats only because you attended a govt school and have no clue how to research and reach your own independent answers. Don't worry, your not alone, most liberals suffer the same distress.

                            #71.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:37 PM EST

                            Deb,, Pay him no mind.. settersperch is still baffled over Obama's birth certificate & school grades

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                            #71.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:40 PM EST

                            Jim: I have found the tea party doesn't like me that well, which makes me happy, not sad or ticked.

                            • 1 vote
                            #71.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST

                            Jim and Deb,

                            Jim first, your still loony tunes as is your avatar and apparently your welfare check made it this month, congrats. Me, I had to go run my construction projects so I couldn't be on all day like you sitting on your a^^ all day.

                            Deb,

                            I don't even know you so how can I dislike you? You have an opinion, based on what I don't know, and its yours. I simply offered my opinion on how you mught be wrong or ill informed. Based on your post, you sound like every other liberal posting so please enlighten me to your research data base other than lib media and lib govt schools.

                              #71.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:03 PM EST
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                              I vote for Colbert.

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                              Reply#72 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:32 PM EST

                              OBAMA/BIDEN or CLINTON 2012!

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#73 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:37 PM EST

                              Newt must be one heck of a politician, he's making a comeback in the bible belt after having broken half of the 10 commandants many times over. What the hell is wrong with South Carolina voters that they still support this sinner. He lies, cheats, steals, covets and commits adultery and the bible belt just eats it up. Go Newt, get nominated, I am confident that 51% of American voters are not as dumb as South Caroling voters and 51% will not be stupid enough to vote for you in November. Hey SC, Newt was a 4F draft dodger too, his feet healed right after he got the 4F on the draft card...lol Now he's a chickenhawk wanting to send your kids to fight wars he opted out of, he could have opted for non-combatant back in the 60's but didn't.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#74 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                              I got a joke. A tea partier , a libertarian , and a filthy rich mormon all enter into the Presidential race to run as their conservative Republican candidate ,who wins?

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#75 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:40 PM EST
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