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MYRTLE BEACH, SC-- Making a rare debate-day appearance at a revival meeting-like event packed with Christian conservative voters, Mitt Romney tweaked his traditional stump speech to highlight a handful of social issues he rarely mentions unprompted on the trail.
Romney's appearance -- along with those of the other four remaining presidential candidates -- at today's Faith and Freedom Coalition event underscores the importance of the conservative Christian vote here. In a December NBC News/Marist poll of likely South Carolina voters, 44 percent identified themselves as fundamentalist or evangelical Christians, and capturing even a slice of this constituency could help Romney close out his third consecutive primary victory in a state where most polling shows him holding onto a narrow lead.
The former Massachusetts governor's brief remarks today went beyond his normal jobs-and-economy-focused message to contrast his positions on social issues with those of President Obama.
"[Obama's] path is one which sends the vice president of the United States to China, where he tells the people there that he understands their one child policy -- where he understands ... all that's associated with it, the abuses associated with that policy." Romney said. "My view is the next president of the United States should stand up for the sanctity of human life in the United States, and anywhere in the world in which it is threatened."
"This president has tried to pave the path for same-sex marriage to spread across the country," Romney continued. "My view is that we should defend the defense of marriage act and that we should have a constitutional amendment that defines marriage as a relationship between a man and a woman."
Romney also made mention of new endorsers Jay and Jordan Sekulow, heads of the conservative American Center for Law and Justice, with the elder Sekulow well known for arguing conservative social causes before the Supreme Court.
Not mentioned by Romney this afternoon: his's newest endorser, former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who suspended his campaign and endorsed Romney at a press conference this morning.
"Now I know why we had a hard time confirming Jon Huntsman," Faith and Freedom coalition chairman Ralph Reed joked near the end of the event. "I was in touch with his campaign all day yesterday."
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So, now former Governor Romney not only wants a trade war with China, but also wants to tell them how to run their country. While I am not real wild with how they enforce their "one child" policy, doesn't there come a point where we have to let the people of another country RUN their country as they see fit. No wonder Americans have the reputation they have abroad. Mr. Romney's attitudes towards China are dangerous.
Obviously, you know absolutely nothing about economics. Let me try to simplify it for you.
Suppose you owned a company that manufactured little rubber balls for one- only one- chain store. Sales grew every single year, you expanded, you hired more workers, got the key to your city, a seat on a local board that was mainly ceremonial. You fu ded a local little league team, donated money to a scholarship fund, underwrote the community picnic.
One day, the hot shots at the chain store told you they were no longer willing to pay your price - they needed a ten per cent cut in their costs, because they were facing financial problems of their own. You have no option to sell to other chain stores, as they have their own suppliers, and also, because the combined volume of all the other chain stores equals one tenth of what you are selling to your current customer.
So, what choice do you have? You have to cut your price.
The U.S. is the chain store- and China is the supplier . Obama seems not to understand the relationship- and seems to have zero interest in learning.
nojo,
Actually, I listened to Jon Huntsman on the subject. I consider him to be very knowledgeable on the subject of trade - especially in Asia. I believe him when he says that what Mr. Romney purposes would cause a trade war that would be detrimental to the US. I guess it just who one believes.
Romney should tell all the Fundamentalist Mormons, here, that have multiple wives to STOP IT! I wonder how he felt about, Warren Jeffs marrying children and impregnating them......
Well, the courts didn't think too kindly about it......Jeffs is in prison!
Bet he won't go there, but China, well that's different!
More proof of the validity of Gallup polling.
Enough with the religious bigotry.
You know, just as a side note here, China now has a problem because of the "one child" law. Because everyone wanted a son, they would test for the sex and get rid of a female child. Well, now there is a shortage of women. Another note. If you are a child of a "one child" family, you can have two children. However this is not happening. Couples are opting still for only one child or no child.
Now, before anyone says I support this, I am just telling you what I heard on NatGeo.
nojo,
On that we can agree. Enough with the religious bigotry. Thought we were done with that when JFK was elected in 1960. Sadly, it seems we are not.
"Enough with the religious bigotry."
Oops, my bad......OK, it's fine to have multiple wives! ONE man and lots of women! ...
but of course, NOT one woman and lots of men........
...is it religious bigotry to outlaw the marriage/'rape' of a minor female? If so, then call me a bigot.
chilled
Yes, it is bad for one man to have lots of women. It should be one woman with lots of men!!!!!!! LOL
I was just talking about, trying to find the right word here, how about "accepted" forms of religion. You know, protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Mormon, Jewish, etc.
Anyone notice that no jo's favorite accusation to make now is that everyone who disagrees with her is somehow a bigot? Isn't that interesting when she daily comes here to spew hate, lies, and insults toward the first black President?
I find often that people accuse others of what they most dislike about themselves. In this case, an objective observer must say: "no jo, the bigot may well be YOU!"
newday,
I do believe the Bible talks about such a problem. Something about before taking a splinter from your neighbor's eye removing the tree from you own (or something like that)
"It should be one woman with lots of men!!!!!!! LOL"
Now, that's religious freedom, phine!......Yeah!
But on a serious note, religious freedom as you noted, absolutely!
And no jo has a big ol LOG in her eye!
Biden's words ...
The Vice President of the United States declares that he doesn't have a problem with central planning bureaucrats making governmental law telling you that you do not have the right, the freedom to have a second child ... a government that enforces that law with forced abortion against your will .... forced sterilization, removing children from parents and selling them to others?
And then states that that we should learn FROM THEM?
What an ignorant insult to basic American values of life and freedom.
And it comes from the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!
Btw - I guess your good with gay censorship, gay round-ups ....
And you say Romney is dangerous?
Sheez .... what in the world is wrong with libs?
chilled & newday,
If you think about what I posted about the severe woman shortage in China because of the "one child" rule, I guess it could be one woman with lots of men!!! Wonder if NatGeo will do a story on that?
Bob,
As I told nojo, I base my fears on Romney's China policy on what Jon Huntsman said. A republican who is very knowledgeable on that part of the world.
Hope so!
newday,
Well, NatGeo is on cable. Could get racy!!!!! LOL
Can we encourage NatGeo...maybe they have something in their archives already.
Maybe they are filming now and will put it on the other NatGeo channel. NatGeo Wild!!!
Phine,
Never Quote the bible. You will never make it as an Evangelist. But still funny anyway. Going to Atlanta tomorrow, I NEED to Buy a new lap top. LOL
Why must we butt into the business of other countries. What the hell difference does it make to the US what they do in China when it doesn't directly affect us?
fuzzy,
I just keep beating my laptop and pc with a hammer. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'
Well, Be good! I'll be back in a couple of weeks!! MIttens for President!!! I think not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because as a strong, superpower and influential country, we are supposed to stand up for the little guy. Little guy meaning the people of the world - not the countries themselves. Would you rather we be aware of the oppression and impoverishment of people, barbarism, child labor, sweat shops, and genocide, and simply turn the other way?
In addition, fair trade practices and sound foreign policy helps our folks here at home. We need to help our folks at home.
Hey phine, who's Tyler?
We only stand up for what is right when it is profitable. If we cared about human rights we would be at war with Saudi Arabia,not Afghanistan. We do not care for our own disenfranchised citizens, why should we care about others?
Garrett, me thinks you messedup the Headline of this thread.
" Romney Prays for Evangelical support before SC Debate", would've been more realastic!
Just Sayin!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
God is elected President The right asks what laws should we change first Gay Marriage or Abortion. God says Go feed the poor. Heal the sick. The right screams God is a socialist.
I can't vote your comment up enough
Smitty: right to the point! Good for you!
That's a good one Smitty....and don't about his son, Jesus, the Liberal!
And God said: Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages. Luke 12:15 Sort of fits with the political rhetoric occupying conversation themes these days.
Nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked day and night, laboring and toiling, so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 2 Thessalonians 3:8 -- Talking about personal responsibility
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Luke 6:37
All kinds of God-stuff applicable to the times and First Read. Jesus had some Republican values, too.
Candice,
I do believe that Jesus was an equal opportunity type of guy. Loved everybody and wanted everybody to love him and each other. Now THAT'S a lesson we could all learn.
Nice post, BTW.
phine -
Absolutely, I believe as well that He was an equal opportunity sort of guy. If only we could all follow that rule-- what a different and glorious place this would be!
Thanks!
The conservative Christians and Mitt have no reason to trust each other. They are right!
Article VI of the U.S. Constitution still provides"no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." Tell these theocrats to take a flyin' leap!
Does anyone remember "separation of church and state"????????????????
Our country is healing, and we’re heading upward from the very deep and very wide hole the Bush Administration dug for us... it's been a slow recovery, and we're not quite there yet, but we're heading in the right direction!
Obama is working for the middle class, he's on the side of hard working Americans and those less fortunate... we need a second Obama term to ensure our country is on solid footing. We need the Affordable Health Care Law which will enable every American an opportunity to acquire affordable health care... by the way which should be a right not a privilege; we need a large infrastructure plan which will put millions back to work; we need fair tax policy, tax breaks for folks making less than $250,000 and slightly higher taxes for those making a million+; and, we need to preserve Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, however some adjustments should be made, i.e. means testing and gradually increasing the eligibility age.
Obama stands for the above and with Dems’ out there campaigning and voting we can take back the house and increase our numbers in the Senate... then we'll see real change in this country.
On the other hand... if the GOP take over the white house be prepared to see the Affordable Health Care law be repealed, and we'll be once again at the mercy of big insurance companies; be prepared to watch Medicare and Social Security privatized; and, be prepared to see the tax rate for our dwindling middle class increase while the tax rate for the top two percent decrease...
Under a GOP led administration the middle class and our seniors will lose our safety net, we'll have higher taxes and we'll be reduced to accepting minimum wage jobs... and the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer!
THINK TWICE BEFOR YOU PLACE YOU VOTE...
Obama/Biden are for the 99% -- The GOP are for the 1%
Donna
On the Sunday before the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett visited Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta to give a political speech, in support of her boss (Barack Obama) and congressional Democrats.
"We all sleep a little better at night knowing Osama Bin Laden and his lieutenants are not plotting a terrorist attack against the United States," she said, eliciting applause from the crowd.
There was also a brief jab at Republicans.
"Teachers, and firefighters, and policemen, whose jobs are now in jeopardy because congress, well let me be specific, because the Republicans in congress ..."
Before she could finish her sentence, people in the congregation were laughing, and applauding.
At the end of Sunday's sermon, after Jarrett had delivered her remarks to the congregation, the church held a voter registration drive.
Reading these posts on Tuedsay morning after being away for the weekend. Two things I noticed.
NOJO trys to make a point by using a ridiculous scenario. No business would depend on one customer unless that customer was the DOD.
Candice cites Jesus but disregards the law of man at the time. Any one traveling at the time was free to come on your property and pick fruit and vegetables from your garden for their meal. Its how Jesus and the disciples survived. So was Jesus really a socialist or was he the beginning of "compassioante conservatism". Just an observation.
Jesus was a cult leader who became quite popular well after he died. Who cares what his political ideology was because it can't really be understood in the context of today?
Kingofmyhill, "Candice cites Jesus but disregards the law of man at the time. Any one traveling at the time was free to come on your property and pick fruit and vegetables from your garden for their meal. Its how Jesus and the disciples survived. So was Jesus really a socialist or was he the beginning of "compassionate conservatism". Just an observation"
King, if compassionate conservatism was prevelant at the time as it is now, there will be many dead bodies in the GOP properties because they will be protecting it from the intruder Jesus and cohorts with their AK 47, so there is noway for compassionate conservatism to suffice, Jesus is a socialist not with the Carmel parables, no rich man will go to heaven unless they share the wealth. Not with Romney who thinks every one is envious of his ill gotten wealth that impoverished so many middle class workers. Even the steel mills in SC did not escape Banes.
What do Evangelicals and Mormons have in common?
They are both cults.
(Though I can't imagine why an Evangelical would support a Mormom.)
I heard Neil Boortz blasting Pres Obama this morning on WSB radio in Atlanta as being a well trained communist/socialist, going all the way back to his college days in CA where Boortz says it all began. It suddenly dawned on me as I keep hearing about the impact Evangelicals will have on the upcoming election vs. the impact my Christian faith (Catholic) has made in my life. If Evangelicals want to be taken seriously as Christians, how and why do they support the politics and politicians they do? Jesus never said anything about separating Christian beliefs from how we should be living and working in our lives.
As a Catholic, we believe (among many things) that we should minister without reservation and judgement to all who are in need (the hungry, the homeless, the impoverished, those without clean drinking water, without medical care, those trying to make ends meet - especially those just trying to maintain the basic necessities of like, and those dealing with the after-effects of accidents, illness, disaster, violence, wars, abuse, oppression, unemployment or death). We also believe that we should live our Catholic Christian faith daily in everything we do including politics and political decisions/laws.
Neil Boortz is a liar. He's also a nut-job Libertarian who chooses to blame communism for the things he hates about Pres Obama when he should really be blaming real Christianity (but certainly not Evangelicals). He doesn't take on Evangelicals because, like himself, they lack integrity; especially when they claim to be Christians (actions speak louder than words). No, Neil Boortz is a racist who mongers fear and hate, and who said this morning he's ready to pack up and leave. All I can say is good bye and good riddance, and please let us know when you leave so we can have a holiday.
To all Evangelicals; if you want to be taken seriously and if you want to be considered real Christians, I urge you to reconsider your theology, the daily practice of your faith, and also your political positions. For example, you and all who claim to be pro-life (Catholics too) must stop making that claim if you support capital punishment (like most of you do including all the Republican prez candidates). Pro-life does not allow for capital punishment so stop lying. Secondly, if Evangelicals want to be true Christians, they must stop supporting those whose main political ambition is to take care of the wealthy and blame everyone else as being responsible for their lot in life regardless of how they got there including if they had their legs cut off at the knees by the likes of companies like Bain Capital. Lest I remind you of something Jesus said: "It would be easier for an elephant to pass through the eye of a needle than it will be for a rich man to enter Heaven."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all Catholics are perfect; by no means. But our imperfections do not reside in the core beliefs of our faith; they comes from human weakness giving in to temptation, so don't blame it on our faith. Our spiritual leadership is very clear about that which is why you generally see them steering away from political functions. Evangelicals on the other hand subscribe to a life-style that only borders on true Christianity, and only at times when it's convenient. Their leaders parade around and allow themselves to be used for political gain; trotting out God like a political advertisement and then telling Him to sit down when they don't need Him anymore. This is whorish behavior and the ultimate insult to God.
The reality is that true Christianity, not Communism is what's driving the movement in America. Pres Obama and the Democrats are only trying to make our country and the world a better and safer place for everyone; not just the select few. And they are succeeding slowly but surely.
And while I personally believe abortion is wrong as does my faith, Catholicism is not a one-issue faith. There are sadly way too many ills out their in addition to abortion that need attending to as well. And it's time we admit it, face up to it and do something about it. It will never happen if we leave it to Evangelicals, Libertarians or Neil Boortz.