thats unfortunate. He was the only articulate and handsome one they had.

We are left with the evil, the angry and the aloof.

Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich are the only two possible nominees now. Romney will never attain it with lukewarm 25-35% support.

Sad the the only sane Republican candidate for President dropped out, and yes I am not a Republican and agree with phinephancy

It is too bad..after an endorsment by a major S.C. newspaper,too. He was the only mostly sane one in the Republican primary race.

This warming up to romney by huntsman, smacks of a deal for VP, no???

BuddyThisToo~~

This warming up to romney by huntsman, smacks of a deal for VP, no???

There's no way Romney would consider Huntsman. Two Mormons on a ticket would be too much for some, in the same manner as two Catholics, two Jews or two Muslims would be. No, wait. Strike that last one. That would never, ever happen in modern America.

Buddy,

The GOP will never put two Mormons on the same ballot. VP's are typically picked to try to bring voters to the ticket that the POTUS candidate doesn't.

Huntsman was the best of them all, but his support for Romney is very sad.

Doubt it on VP, why would Romney need a fellow Mormon and former Utah governor who polls well in Utah and New Hampshire?

The demographics say no.

Now we will have two Democrats running for President. Just because you flop, does not mean you cannot flip again.

I don't know Feisty----on his way out the door, Huntsman gives his support to Romney. That might qualify him for membership with the rest of the crowd.

The VP is likely to go to someone like the PA dufus Santorum to try and balance the tea ba**er need for a fascist on the ticket.

Another one bites the dust

Another one bites the dust

and another one gone, and another one gone

Hey, I'm gonna get you too,

Another one bites the dust.

So long repubs, cuz, it is as it is, Another one bites the dust, and another one gone......

Hey Kumar, time to wake up.

Poor Huntsman, he did not have 250 million dollars in the bank. Life is tough on the GOP circuit.

Huntsman was an articulate and intelligent politician in an era of right wing extremists. There is no room right now in the Republican Party for compromise, intelligence and constructive dialog. WHY DO YOU THINK ALL THE PROMINENT REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS SAT OUT THIS TIME AROUND...THEY ARE WAITING FOR SANITY TO RETURN TO REPUBLICAN POLITICS.

VP no but a cabinet position maybe, aambassadorship maybe. Then again Romney would have to win for cabinet job. Not so much for ambassadorship

@Kumar, um, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! NOT! I would vote for Palin, no wait, I can't, Bachman, no wait, not her either, okay then, Cain, NOPE, hmmmm Huntsman, hahahahaha NOT!!!!!! And another one bites the dust......

Wasn't the last person to run and run and run till he got elected Nixon? How did that work out?

Yup. I'm upset. I voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. Kerry in 2004. Obama in 2008. I would have voted for Huntsman in 2012. But, hey, if the Republican power brokers want to drop the only candidate that could wrestle the moderates away from Obama, that's they're choice.

As fas as VP goes, it's gonna be Christie. Two Republican governors that won in blue states and were deemed fairly successful in their administrations. Wait and see. That's their battle plan. Regardless, I'll still be voting for Obama.

Huntsman did not get the financial support simply because he did not cater to the crazy right. However, it is ludicrious for the article to think that he is so stupid that he would be putting his own wealth in a trial run. The real prize is 2016.

It is a no win situation for Huntsman. Mitt will have less than 20% chance of winning giving the current trend. Unless there is some thing horrific comes out of our economy. Obama most likely win a second term largely thanks to GW Bush and their inability to clean up after themselves. Then there is the over zealous Tea Party whose representatives turned out to be duds in Congress after all that midterm hoopla....

GOP is clearly regroupoing and throwing a candidate up there who they are constantly trying to take apart is a statement by itself.

No, Buddy, I think Huntsman is throwing his few delegates to Romney because he doesn't want to be ex-communicated from the LDS. He'll be lucky to get his job as ambassador to China back when Obama kicks the butt of whichever wack loser the GOP sticks their flag in.

Mitt's pick for VP is O'Donnell the Witch - Romney / O'Donnell 2012, We are about Conservative Values to put this Nation back into a "Depression.

Huntsman would not be on Romney's short list for VP. The only other candidate on-the-stage Romney would consider is Ron Paul because Paul splits the votes and Romney may be short on delegates at the convention. It is quite possible that Ron Paul will be selecting the VP candidate - if he does not receive the offer himself.

Romney will probably be looking for someone with a government background for VP. That allows Romney to continue being the 'businessman' while the VP candidate is the government experience. A governor (like Pawlenty) may fit but Romney may need someone from Congress - probably from the House since the Senate is in play.

If Romney loses the 'businessman' message then he would likely pick someone from the private sector while Romney pivots to his experience as governor.

As usual, Romney is going to play it two ways and see which one grows legs.

With any luck at all, he will decide to run as an independent and pick a good VP candidate who can work with, and represent the majority of Americans.

He was the only candidate the GOP had that was worth looking at.

I think Huntsman's delegates should go to the memory of Romney's poor abused dog Seamus.

Ah, sit back and read and enjoy the feeding frenzy. An article about a Republican appears, and the liberal vultures go absolutely bats**t crazy with the vitriol.

Conservatives have nothing to say, other than what took Huntsman so long to do the obvious?

Feisty-clean up needed on page 2! Another fan ready to bite the dust! I'll let you do the heavy lifting-you're the best!;-)

A. Friend-3401376

#87 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM EST

Watching Geraldo at large. Apparently Mitt is Hispanic. There is a question as to whether he is legal.

what is LDS?

Spider - actually a significant portion of the comments above seem to be in line with the moderate view point that Huntsman was the only person in the Republican field that wasn't too extremist to be supported by those of us that consider ourselves moderates.

Or to put it as eloquenlty as a previous poster: Huntsman was the only one that wasn't bat $hit crazy... Funny thing that phrase is exactly the one I've been using for a couple of months now - so it might just be there are a number of us in the middle not particularly impressed with the remaining Republican candidates providing "leadership" that we can follow.

Spider, why wouldn't you consider a candidate that isn't crazy enough to cowtow to the far right in the Republican party?

Mitt's running mate will come from the South. This is the only way to ensure that he will not get clobbered at in 2012. Newt is a very likely candidate given his bulldog style of defense. Newt will also bring in the other side of the Repubican disgruntles... Sorry, this is his only chance. I can't think of another Republican who fits the fill. Rick S is a loose canon. Perry may be another choice, but he lacks that ferocious defense that Mitt needs for the stretch run.

@kickingant; Of course they won't because they see how well it's worked for the country when the DNC does it.

@kickingant; I admit when I'm a bonehead. I thought you wrote "morons", not "Mormans". hehe. But if would have wrote that my last statement would be dead on.

bryan

It's called the primary's...this is the process. You might want to read up a little on how the system works.

@thturd -- I doubt the VP pick will be made before the convention. The battle for delegates and convention votes will make the VP pick too valuable. The south is pretty solid Republican - I doubt the GOP will lose the south if Romney is the nominee.

Romney will need to bolster support in the the midwest (rust belt in particular) and the west. To do that, Romney will need to cover as many bases as possible between himself and the VP candidate.

Maybe Romney would pick a surprise VP candidate - like Donald Trump. That strategy worked well for McCain in 2008 ...

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

You're the only one I vote down, -when you comment. The vitriol spoken by you is shameful.

Isn't that sad? But it's well deserved.

Hooray! The GOTP is on a losing streak! Congratulations Democrats, the only sane one of the GOTP has given up. Smooth sailing all the way.

Well, looks like Obama's getting a second term on a silver platter.

Fiesty only uses the same type of bashing most of you on the tight uses. Good for you Fiesty, always good for a laugh and usually right on. Just the fact they keep collapsing you says volumes. What, they don't think we can just expand your comments to read?

@righwingwac: On the other hand if there is ANY common sense left in this country and if people are indeed waking up from their comas brought on by the over orgasmic jubilation brought on by their fake messiah, it will be a slam dunk come November for the GOP candidate who will actually do something positive for the people of this country.

One question for you, where are the jobs you teabagging liars promised in the 2010 elections? The GNoP will only make promises to get elected by those in a coma and then back out. What a bunch of losers the teabaggers and their messiah Grover Norquist are. Blame your lose on him.I find it odd you all put Bush down all the time..backing away from Bush. I thought he was the greatest president since..NIXON

Figures all the liberal dimwits are sad to see the RINO go. The ironic part is that he had the gall to call Ron Paul "unelectable." Oh, the irony.

Hate to tell you this rednawt, the dems still control the senate and your high king Harry won't even pull the many, many passed jobs bills out of his desk for a vote. That's where all the jobs are. Obama sent the oil jobs to Brazil along with a couple billion of our dollars, the manufacturing jobs to China with his jobs czar the head of GE, and many more construction jobs working on our bridges and roads also to Chinese firms. He did save the union jobs though, too bad we can't afford to buy their products or have them in our classrooms because they just cost too much. And stop calling the everyday working people teabaggers!! It is disgusting and uncalled for.

Feisty,

There’s a reason you keep getting collapsed. Rather than name-calling, provide a rationale for you point of view. If you can.

@ JungleBoogie; If Paul or Gingrich win, it will be an easy win for Obama. Romney is not winning because the GOP loves him. He is winning because they know he is the most electable who can sustain a campain.

@Kumar; Don't count on it. Even if Romney wins, Obama has already raised more of a warchest than any republican candidate and he doesn't have to fight for his party's nomination. Romney has to slug it out some more with the other GOP candidates before he can concentrate on the election and that will wear him out physically and financially.

@Alexpinca; Romney will not pick Huntsman only because of the mormon thing, but he will not pick Paul or the Grinch either. Once Romney gets the nomination, he will look for a VP that can pull in moderate voters. Paul and the Grinch sure can't do that.

@ir12; Actually, Reagan was the last president to get elected after numerous attempts. He first ran in 1972 and lost to Nixon, and again in 1976, losing to Ford. Nixon and Ford were both incumbents. He won it in 1980.

I agree that Huntsman was the most sane and presidential of them. It is a shame he did not have the support to do better.

What the hell are you talking about saneincali? Bridges and road jobs to Chinese firms? Firms whose world headquarters are in China and it was Obama and not the different states DOT's? Road construction is union jobs many places. Oil jobs to Brazil? Let them pump the oil from the thousands of capped wells, but please, let's make sure the fracking is safe. Do you know all the toxic chemicals being pumped down those wells? The manufacturing jobs have been going to China since before Clinton. How is that ALL Obama's fault? How many poison pills are in those bills? The republicans refuse to compromise and the American people have finally waken up to that fact. We can't afford products in many classrooms because the republican legislatures of many states are cutting education funding to the bone. Why is it republicans think they know all there is to know? We tried your programs in 2001 to 2006, and then got blocked from there with the most filibusters in US history. I truly believe the Democrats have learned a lesson, get out and vote, don't take it for granted you will win.

I wonder if Mitt can pick Willard his alter ego to bring balance to the ticket. A flip flop extravaganza to lead the Teabaggers.

People that don't even know what is going on in the country should not be allowed to vote. About 50% of the people can't even tell you who is running let alone tell you their voting records. People are so gullable. 50% of people need top just stay home instead of voting uneducated.

-They do because gettin 40% of the electorate to come out and vote is unusual....

"actually a significant portion of the comments above seem to be in line with the moderate"

You have to understand that in the view of the right wing anybody who does not agree with their stupid ideas is a Liberal...That would in clude everyone in the US save the 15-20% who are clueless and are right wingers.

Huntsman has many good points but was unable to get enough support to be selected…..

Say what you may about the GOP candidates and their contest but one thing has never been clearer, no one, you included, can meet the super human expectations and “purity" (unless of course you were kept in a glass cage all your life) we demand from the people who put their hands up to represent us. After all they are supposed to be like us so they can relate to us. You would expect that “these” people have gone through the rough and tumble and good and bad experiences of life, just like us. Accordingly, why do we get so enraged at the smallest of things? The country is in trouble and needs fixing. We cannot continue on the path the country is on right now.

I therefore admire every one of the GOP candidates who is brave enough to want to serve their country and is brave enough to stand up to the many months of scrutiny and ridicule they are faced with.

Although I could not bring myself to vote republican after the Bush fiasco and this constant GOP obstructionist movement that has denigrated GOP politics to it lowest level ever and brought the country down with it, as a former republican voter I thought Huntsman would be an admirable presidential choice. The rest of the GOP field exemplifies all that is wrong with the GOP party, the state of politics in general, and the root of our economic demise. Are we really willing to give the nod to a corporate raider as the nominee for president, just because he may be 'electable'? Really?

Why then all this crap about the scrutiny we put candidates through, only to succumb to the 'best we have to pick from' mentality in the end? How about 'Not Good Enough' instead of 'Electable'? Otherwise, may as well write-in Romney's dog for prez - he certainly deserves better.

It was sincerely nice of Huntsman and the others to provide all the needed talking points for Obama's campaign. Thanks for that.

Huntsman should have gone Independent... would have been much more fun.

Good luck to him. He and Ron Paul are the only honest GOP candidates they had.

And another one bites the dust...

Looks like the GOP has decided to give Romney the nomination. No other candidate is electable. The bigger question is who will Romney choose for his VP candidate? Could be Huntsman. That would be an interesting ticket.

saneinCali - actually GE announced that by 2012 they will have 4 manufacturing centers in the US - bringing back production of 70% of it's products. So, I guess if Obama is friends with the GE CEO it is helping us, right????? Construction of the plants has already begun!

really alberto, well you do remember, no doubt, when W got up to his ass in the sh!t his brain began

to drown!

Mitt is not a Mexican- His father and Grandfather were born there- to American Parents- that makes everyone American. Not an issue. Geraldo wanted to make it so- but there is no story.

Huntsman dropped out a bit later than I thought he would- but it was inevitable. He was only campaigning for the 2020 elections. Just getting the name out there.

Rubio would be natural choice for VP. Huntsman would make a great Sec of State!

The real shame is, Huntsman was the only candidate in the field of GNOP clunkers who wasn't certifiably bat sh!t crazy!

Fiesty, I agree Huntsman was worthy of a better fate, to drop out of the race with no more noise than from a pebble dropping into the ocean. But, I do not agree that all the other candidates are, as you put it, "bat sh!t crazy".

That certainly described Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain, but not Romney or Gingrich. They are flawed, yes, but not crazy.

Gingrich, for all his reputed intellect, and studied eloquence, has run a campaign which is puzzling in its ineptitude. Also, for all his claim as the true Reagan Republican, he shows an alarming ability to change his political shape and color at the drop of a hat, or at the issuance of a poll.

Romney is also far from crazy. His biggest problem is that people just do not take him as for real as a prospective leader. He also has Mass Health Reform to explain, apologize for, or defend; he cannot walk away from it.

BTW: I don't find your posts particularly offensive. But they get collapsed faster than returnable beer cans at a recycling center.

Fiesty has a right to her opinion, even if you dont agree with it. Collapsing or calling names only serves to make this country less tolerant. Personally I would rather know what and how individual thinks and feels about subjects. Even if I dont agree! Virtual blinders do nothing to prove your point, they just make it one sided.

jollyoldsoul1 said:

"collapsing or calling names only serves to make this country less tolerant. Personally I would rather know what and how individual thinks and feels about subjects".

Ditto, to that! She/he is a master at the above quote of yours. She/he has too much bias and name-callings to be taken with credibility. Do you mind if her closed mind and bias gets in the way?

That person is only out for self-gratification when posting.

She/he has too much bias and name-callings to be taken with credibility.

I would agree Leiya. I'm surprised Feisty hasn't been suspended with her indecent moniker and trash talk.......Maybe, she works at MSNBC, That would explain why she is always first to comment. If not, she must spend the bulk of her day hitting the "refresh" button on the MSNBC Politics section......She never addresses questions challenging her points of view.

At least Huntsman knows when to 'fold them, isn't Colbert ahead of him in the polls?

ToxicChemist

Thanks!!

The person in question needs a 'root canal' of the brain. Her/his 'following' is solely progressive/liberal. Democrats would never listen to his/her babble.

Leiya123 - you're a good Republican aren't you? Like the ones who said defeating Obama was their number one goal - to hell with our country. Saying you collapse Feisty's comments just because she posts? What a really self-gratifying and ridiculous act. But, you are a good little GOPer!

Feisty - your post was not the least bit offensive - just hard for Republicans to understand and digest! Have a great day!

SeekingSanity

It's a shame you don't face the reality of the posts by her/him. I guess, ignorance is bliss.

If you really want to 'seek sanity', I advice you to not listen to her/him. Or, if you prefer, listen to her diatribe all day long and then determine if she/he is out for nothing but bashing opposing view points and going to the gutter.

I'll debate you under the COH all day long. Regards.

..... to hell with our country

Every time the president increases our debt to China he's saying "to hell with our country." Sanity, when your household has overextended the credit cards, do you go out and buy more stuff? The country's debt is going to destroy us....

Fiesty,

You're still biased and take pleasure in degrading differing oppinions. How sad!

This means Romney may be the winner. That's almost as scary as his carefully crafted presidentialish hairdo.

He will probably be Romney's choice for VP (thus the endorsement), to try and bring the Republican/TP Inc. leaders to reluctantly support Romney. Of all of the other candidates, I think Romney feared Huntsman the most. Huntsman was starting to gain ground, and could have presented a very real threat to Romney, if he had stayed in the race to the last. Romney's, and Huntsman's supporters, together, will easily beat Santorum, no matter how many Evangelicals endorse Santorum. Romney was the front runner, so it made sense for Huntsman to drop out and unite behind Romney. Too bad, I've lost some respect for Huntsman because of this.

After what Romney did to his dog, he doesn't deserve the title 'dung inspector' let alone president.

Matthew, outside of the evangelical vote, Santorum has very little support, even amongst Republican party loyalists. Huntsman and Romney were the two candidates who would have the broadest appeal to moderates and independents. The Republicans and Independents who are anxious for an alternative to Obama are lining up behind Romney because he has a good shot at it.

I had a problem with Huntsman accepting a position of importance with the Obama administration and then running against President Obama. In my book that is not the kind of loyalty I consider a good character trait.

Romney will not choose a Utah Former Governor for VP. He will choose a Southern Governor or Florida's Rubio or Rick Santorum (Florida and Pennsylvania are both battleground states.) He will obviously take MA from the democrats.

Steeler, I know a lot of people felt that Huntsman was "disloyal" to his party in taking a role in the Obama administration. However, he is an American first and a Republican second. For me that is a strong point in his favor. We face a lot of challenges. If the two parties continue to take every opportunity to screw each other, then all of us lose.

Matthew from TX:
Your thoughts sound enticing, but 2 (not just 1) Mormons on the same ticket? Could it be possible outside of Utah?

I was guessing that Romney would pick Christie, who has gone so far as to ask for the job, but Romney may have to pick someone who would help to pick up the missing half of the GOP that doesn't like him....

The best steps down to the worst, Romney. Huntsman doesn't share Romney's values so why would he give his support to a dirtbag like Mitt ?????????????

@Kumar

As far as VP goes, it's gonna be Christie. Two Republican governors that won in blue states and were deemed fairly successful in their administrations. Wait and see. That's their battle plan. Romney might, maybe, ever so slighty, appeal to moderate independents. Christie will appeal to the base. Regardless, I'll still be voting for Obama.

Any VP pick but Christie would guarantee a loss. Bachmann, Paul, Santorum, and Perry would drive out the last remaining moderate GOPers. Th voters they bring to the table are already there. Gingrich's vendetta means he will never be picked. Huntsman would be a good pick if he wasn't Mormon. The Evangelists would never vote for two "non-Christians." Romney is going to have a tough time generating any ardent support. He should really pick a Hispanic. Without their votes Bush would have lost both times. Although the "blane the illegals for everything" GOP may have driven them out already.

Romney will never get Massachusetts..........I live in Massachusetts and I remember when he was Governor...a total disgrace. And I am not in any way shocked about Huntsman backing out...............and I am not surprised that Huntsman is backing Romney...............they are all alike just different faces that's all.

Romney is a pitiful man..................who will say or do anything to get what he wants even if he doesn't mean any of it. He is a big time liar, and a greedy man.

he will devour or country, then chew it up and spit it out all in the name of winning and then watch the tea

party republicans run Romney like a dog and then treat him like a dog...................JUST LIKE ROMNEY TREATED HIS DOG...................HE IS A PATHETIC HUMAN BEING............AND ANY ONE WHO CAN BE THAT STUPID TO PUT A FAMILY DOG ON TOP OF A ROOF OF A CAR FOR 12 HOURS , WATCH IT GET SO SICK THAT THE DOG WAS IN DISTRESS.......THEN STOP THE CAR IN A GAS STATION HOSE THE DOG DOWN WITH COLD WATER AND THE CAR AND DRIVE OFF EVEN KNOWING THE DOG WAS SICK.

AND i AM SUPPOSED TO THINK THIS SAME MAN WILL RUN THIS COUNTRY????????

HE'S NOT GONNA RUN THIS COUNTRY ANY WAY EVEN IF HE GETS VOTED IN...........THE TEA PARTY WILL RUN HIM. THEN WATCH THIS COUNTRY GO DOWN!!!!

Warhammer, Christie is a pretty polarizing character. He appeals to the raw meat Republicans, but wouldn't help a candidate win over moderate Democrats or Independents. McCain made the mistake of selecting Palin as a VP. he wanted to solidify his Republican base and probably felt that having a woman as VP would win over women Democrats. I don't think Palin appealed to anyone outside of extreme Republicans. Romney, or whoever wins the nomination, will be able to bank on Obama's lack of popularity to solidify the base. Having a VP with broader appeal would help position the Republican as less extreme. Obama ran as being bipartisan in 2008, but no one is going to buy that in 2012.

"Romney's Conservative values are in his bank acct".

Steeler Fan - You make no sense, and besides who wants to hear the opinions of a Steeler Fan after the way Tebow took your boys apart? Oh and Big Ben is a guy we all respect..lol..Go Niners!

Frankly Bob, you would be better served learning what is going on in Washington. You have no clue.

Flip flopping Romney's Conservation values is outsourcing American jobs.

Ir12, I read the news from DC from coverage in three different countries. I am a news junkie and read the opinions of people right, left and center. However, it seems that you have some special insights that go far beyond the opinions I consult. Please, educate me, oh erudite one.

Then please share with me and the blog your deep understanding. I am anxious to hear your deep wisdom.

Bob, I said nothing about reading the news from DC, I said learning. Perhaps I should have added understanding. Which you don't.

Ir12, do you object to my concern about my family's welfare, my belief that Romney is not a demon, my view that Huntsman is a good American, or my concern that Obama's policies have failed to restart the economy? That about covers my posts tonight. I would like to know where I lack understanding.

As an example Bob, the Republicans during the last election ran on the platform of creating jobs. In all your reading, name one bill they sponsored that would create jobs for people of the United States that was not sponsored by the Koch bothers. I am not talking about cutting regulations that created nothing. I do not believe Romney is a demon. Huntsman would have been my choice out of the bunch. However I do believe you have a problem if you cannot see how the Republican Party has done nothing to help the country in the last year. That is where the problem lies. Your desire to blame President Obama overrides your common sense.

Just too sane for today's GOP.

jane-3304616:

Mitt Romney was a very good Governor and was very popular. Your spin will not work......

So Homer, what did you like about Romney. His stance on Pro Choice. Perhaps it was his support of mandates on Health Care. Maybe it was his support of gay couples. There are many who think Romney was OK until he started trying to please the Tea Party.

Ir, I am not a big fan of the Republicans either ... I am an Independent. Like you, I liked Huntsman more than the other options. I also do not see Obama as being the sole person to blame. However, he had opportunities that were squandered:

1) He came to office touting "shovel-ready" projects and infrastructure. He could have suspended some of the EPA requirements and gotten construction projects going. He could have rebuilt our aging highway system, built the "smart grid" to improve access to power across America. Instead, he largely spent trillions to bail out companies like AIG, just like Bush.

2) He came to office talking energy independence. He appointed Stephen Chu, Secretary of Energy and seemed poised to take action. While the Canadians are working with switchgrass fermentation and other low-cost alternatives, he squandered money in a political payola scheme with Solydra. The huge investment in a company with an obsolete technology scared off investors from competitors who had more innovative approaches.

3) For better or worse, fracking has been a boom to parts of the country that have had very high unemployment. Like the oil pipeline, the Obama administration has had a stalling approach on energy industry that has created uncertainty and stalled investment.

4) The economic policies the administration has proposed are all over the map. Short term tax credits for hiring, increased health costs related to long term employment. Small companies have no idea of what their personnel costs will be.

Have the republicans offered much in the way of options ... for the most part no. As mentioned previously, I do think that Huntsman (from his experience as governor of Utah) has a good record in helping to diversify the economy of that state. I also believe that Romney has real business experience and understands how to turn a business around. (That was the business of Bain.) The issue of the economy is the issue for me. I don't think Obama is a bad person, that he means ill for the US, or that he is a Marxist. (All of that is just silly.) But, I don't believe he has any background in dealing with the economic problems we face and that his track record hasn't been too hot.

You are free to disagree with me. However, please know that there are many people who feel just as I do. You can call all of us ignorant and say we lack understanding. That's your opinion. But there are a lot of people, just like me, who voted for Obama in 2008 and won't be doing so again.

So IR, you don't like Romney because he is too liberal?! For me, the fact that he was able to represent the people of MA, a decidedly liberal state, means that he can put the will of the voters above his own ideology. Is that such a bad thing, or is there something here I don't understand?

I find it unfortunate that Huntsman just could not seem to catch on with: (1) what has become the far right tilted GOP whose biggest concern is still God, Guns, and Gays, and (2) our sick U.S. media who would not give him the time of day because he wasn't one of the crazy ones (esp. early on) like Bachmann and Perry and Paul and Sanatorium too. In the end, I think he was the best candidate to defeat Obama. I might hold my nose and vote for Romney, unlesshe picks some far right wing crazy for a VP candidate like McCain did. If that turns out to be the case, I won't vote for him OR Obama. The Republican party is sooo messed up nationally, and even more so in my state of Minnesota. (Anyone on here from Minnie knows what I mean.....)

Jac, I agree, although I think I am less offended by Romney than you are. I would have considered McCain were it not for Palin. Frankly, I do not understand how either party can elect the sorts of people that are getting into office.

Ok Bob, now you sound a bit more reasonable. I will admit Obama has been all over the map. I believe he has been grabbing at straws trying to get anything that would work. Blaming him for Solydra is a bit disingenuous as that program was started under Bush. But as with any engine, all cylinders have to be firing to run smoothly. Congress is a vital spark plug and in my view it is dead and needs to be replaced. As for who you vote for, that is the wonderful thing about the United States, it is your choice and your vote. Use it wisely. As for me, I can only look at what has happened and place the blame where I believe it belongs.

Bob, I do not like Romney because I have no idea what his true positions are. I have no faith that they will be the same tomorrow as they are today.

Ir, seems like you need to do some learning about washington, and the truth. The republican House has sent 16 jobs bills to the Senate ( most with democrat support). Harry reid has tabled ( read killed ) all of them. Refused to read, debate, compromise or vote. Were the jobs bills perfect? No, but the job of the Congress is to debate, modify and find common ground for the good of the country.

Obama made 11 promises during the last campaign. So far, he has sorta kept one ( get the troops out of Iraq by 2011).

So oldman, perhaps you can name one of the Republican Jobs Bills that did not involve cutting regulations.

Many, many moderates like Jon Huntsman and would have considered voting for him. I can't speak for the others, but if he endorces Romney, he won't get my vote if he ever runs for national office in the future. I think if he edorses Romney, any hope of a future political career is gone, at least at the national level. Endorsing Romney removes his cred with independant progressive voters. What the hell is he thinking?

With the exception of Paul, I'm for any of them up there! Anyone will be better than the Obamination that is tearing and ripping our country to shreds now!!

Dave - I wouldn't read too much into the Romney endorsement thing. It's what all dropouts are expected to traditionally do. It's considered taking the high road; an act of class. And I do believe Huntsman is a classy human being. Seriously, don't take it so seriously. ;)

Hi ir12,

I'm interested in what you think Congress and the president can do to "create jobs". Certainly we can spend massive piles of money to employ people, and we have, but this doesn't result in net job increases. See, when you take a dollar from one use and apply it to another you really have to account for both the positive and negative consequences of that act. The question this president, and really most people, still haven't answered is, "How many jobs has the governmental effort to create jobs caused us to lose?"

It's a hard question to answer since it always involves a policy path not taken. We have to think it through with reason then. For my part I think the net effect of all government spending beyond the amount necessary to perform the basic duties the feds are responsible for in a self-governing republic (like our's used to be) is a decrease in employment and a decrease in net national wealth. Reasonable people can disagree.

But if you take the amount of additional spending over Bush 43's already inflated budgets that Mr. Obama has helped to usher in, and divide that amount by the number of jobs saved or created (a truly bizarre category given we don't know what would have happened without the money), you end up with each job costing--and this is without even considering the numbers of jobs lost--something well in excess of $300k. So, even if we take Mr. Obama's numbers at face value, we will never recover the money spent to produce those jobs. We are a less wealthy nation as a result. It was truly dumb public policy.

Still, you want the federal government to create jobs. So, how? Obviously you dislike the idea of decreasing regulations. You haven't mentioned if you like or not the idea of tax simplification. My guess is that like most Americans you would not favor my idea of eliminating all corporate income taxes (you pay them anyhow in the form of prices or quality or wages and benefits, perhaps even in the form of not having a job).

If all we had to do to create the worker's paradise so many people want is to spend money we don't have then why has the effort failed so miserably? Obama didn't begin this problem, but he has made it far worse. Even still, I don't blame him. I blame the people who vote for him and people like him who seem to want free stuff. It simply doesn't exist.

Some of you folks desperately need to get a life. Vote for who you like. The way the country is run, and by whom, won't change.

"progressive"? The National Socialists in Germany in the 30's liked that word, too.

Mitt Rom-money will have to choose someone with political experience on the national stage. That would seem to indicate there is only one candidate to fit the bill - Sarah Palin. Those teabaggers will go orgasmic upon hearing Mitt Rom-money's choosing her. What a ticket a douche and a douche bagger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A Watch Romney tell a man he should die. I agree that he isn't progressive. He isn't conservative either. Being conservative is what affords our country the privelege of being progressive. Without conservatives you can't have progress because you go broke. A society's progress can be measured by how free it is, not how much money it gives away. Ron Paul is by far a better option. He is both humane and a realist.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein

I'm a liberal Democrat, but there is a part of me that wishes Barrack Obama had never been elected. Had John McCain been President the last 3 years we would still be in Iraq wasting billions more, we would probably be at war with Iran, unemployment would probably be over 12%, The EPA would have been gutted, Wall Street would be running even more crazy than they are currently as Republicans see no reason to confront Capitalism excesses, not 1/3, but probably 1/2 of the country would be below the poverty line, healthcare would still be a dead issue, and people would be so disgusted they would be ready to vote the Republicans out forever.

That is also why I hope the Republicans win the Presidency, the Senate, and the House in 2012, because they will be in total control and so one sided and unfair, coddle the rich, and run the country into the ground so much that it kills the middle class once and for all, and finally a real Revolution will be ready to begin. Either that, or we'll become known as the 3rd world country we already are where the rich finally own everything.

Jesse--you DO know that Obama's timetable for pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan is the SAME ONE that Shrub had two years before he finished his second term?

It is doubtful that McCain would have extended it, either.

I voted for Obama against my better judgement, because I don't like it when EITHER party holds both houses of Congress AND the WH, and it was pretty obvious that was what would (and did) happen.

NEITHER party has a good record when they run the whole shooting match.

in reply to jane-3304616,

How can you sit there and LIE about Romney being a disgrace from Mass. I am from Mass and when Mitt was Governor here, he cleaned up some of the CORRUPTION that lingers here from Liberal thinking politicians. He was the best governor in Mass sinse Bill Weld. Please stop the lies, and IF Mitt would have stayed here on his path, we would have NO more tolls on the Pike ! Don't forget about him giving his paycheck to the state. Don't forget about the $500-$600 you saved a month on your NEW healthcare plan. Just please stop the Romney lies.

I certainly hope that Huntsman runs in 2016. He wwas the only Republican with any sense in that circus of bozos.

My thought is that the powers that be knew Huntsman had a very good chance of winning and that spoiled their plan. Huntsman was offered a very good position should Romney win.

I wonder if it's nepotism when the two are third cousins?

Huntsman sold out on several occasions...this is just another sell out. Too bad...he's the only sane one. Does it strike anyone else as odd that Huntsman drops out and yet Perry is like the Ever Ready battery?

It looks like Huntsman will be in the Cabinet (or the VP) if Romney wins. It's the only explanation for the endorsement and withdraw of criticism. This is not a bad deal for Huntsman given the direction of his campaign. There was no where for him to go but down from NH.

Romney is still in favor of the status quo, which is why I'm voting for Ron Paul.

In my opinion, Jon Huntsman move was a double edged sword. Although a brilliant politician in the international arena, speaking Chinese during a GOP Debate didn't win him any points with voters. Like all primary candidates (Republican or Democrat, past or present) Jon Huntsman saw Mitt Romney and for a brief moment, Newt Gringrich as the front runners. As a result, he took a swipe at them (politically speaking). Judging from all the neutral polls, I don't think there is much of an "electability" issue with Mitt Romney. Many polls show Romney either tied, beating or close enough to beat Barack Obama, and it is still "very early in the game." Perhaps this is why the Obama Campaign have focused the majority of their hate ads on Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney is the one GOP Candidate Barack Obama doesn't want to face off in a Presidential Debate. That is pretty obvious and speaks volumes.

Jon Huntsman just earned a little respect from me, he is smart enough to realize he can't win the nomination; and, denying this fact by staying in the race is only hurting GOP chances of choosing the most qualified candidate. The last thing the GOP needs is a split race, due to losing candidates living in denial. If Mitt Romney wins the GOP nomination, I hope he considers Jon Huntsman. Jon Huntsman has international and political experience that could be a very strong asset.

I was taken aback by Santorum and Gingrich, stirring up South Carolina Evangelical Ministers/voters against Romney, due to faith. In my opinion, these candidates is "hitting below the belt" preaching this poison to win votes! Santorum and Gingrich lost any chance of winning mine. This country is in a real mess and Obama with his over 7 Trillion spending in three years, and failed implemented policies, are only making things worse. I respect Ron Paul, however, Ron Paul wouldn't last two minutes in a "Head to Head" debate with Obama. Why? He doesn't stay on point, he rambles. Just as in 2008 with McCain, Obama's team will take that and discredit Ron Paul calling him, old, weak and senile. We need a leader that is younger; healthier; has a good business head on his shoulders; has made a few mistakes, owns up to them and has learned from them; understands government and the private sector having served in both; and isn't afraid to be held accountable for his presidential promises... That is Mitt Romney...

not one of these popliticans have refered to this country in a way that shows they want to see it as number one again...not one. It has come down to nothing but profits for politicans and their backers.The winning country today is China....it is soaking the USA with cheap goods that are sold at high prices by every major company....the companies that have moved their manufacturing to China will sooner or later loose...China has always taken over winning companies at their pleasure ande will again. I have no problem with companies making profits....I do have a problem when those profits mean more than this country and it people.

Huntsman and Romney represent the non-Neanderthal wing of the GOP ... a rapidly disappearing group, to be certain. Unfortunately they have to embrace many of the loonier aspects of the Radical Right's social engineering agenda in order to be nominated. It will be interesting to see what happens when the GOP race narrows to one "moderate" conservative like Romney and one hard-core radical. Will the various radical factions coalesce behind the one candidate or will their need for philosophical purity continue to drive wedges between them?

It's funny that Huntsman had to defend himself for working with Obama and Democratic forces ... Romney has to defend himself for working with the Republican establishment. No one but the radical right need to apply for membership in today's GOP. Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan ... they would not recognize today's GOP and would be rejected as " too liberal".

A breakdown analysis of the GOP field, you have a cold, clammy handshake.

Anyone in the GOP field would be better than Obama but also for the country and the world. What a horrible presidency we have. I hope that changes in 2012!!! HOPE!

"I think when you're on too many sides of the issues of the day, when you don't have that core, when there's that element of trust out there," Huntsman said, "I think that becomes a problem, and I think it makes you unelectable against Barack Obama."

If Obama tries that argument, it would be "The pot calling the kettle black".

No - that's not a racist comment.

Roy, I agree, Obama is a huge flip flopper. Reading this thread makes me worry even more about our countries future. Some mighty big dolts on here.

Most are worried about going to war with Iran, look for Obama to strike Iran in September. It's called politics for a reason.

@warhammer

Christie is the same.....i'm from NJ....he talks tough, and mostly (mostly) does what he says...but still does unethical things. I have a few friends in State Jobs....he claimed to have fired 4 directors (to cut costs) and put 6 of his friends in the same (4) positions.

Christie is full (really full) of sh!t too!

Oh yeah....I declare NJ Ron Paul State!

If I were a Republican today I would go hide in a hole somewhere. What an embarrassment the GOP has become. They have no morals, no intellect, and no integrity. President Obama has done a decent job considering he has had a Congress determined from day one to make him fail. When people don't admit that that is unAmerican it says it all.

"Yawn" to all of the GOP. What a bunch of dill weeds. The only one, and he has zero, real chance, is Ron Paul. Hey Repubs, guess what? Another one bites the dust...... hahaha bunch of Queens, them conservative douche wads.

...................................."Romney worships the 1% to fill his pockets"

Now IF the GOP/"Tea Party People could come up with any kind of "passable" JOBS Bill; or better yet, decide to really do something about the "TAX CODE"?? After all; with the "TAX CODE"'s having $1.1TRILLION in "breaks", exemptions & "loopholes"; Plus allowing 45% to pay NOTHING?? LOOK!.! THERE IS YOUR "DEFICIT".! "Tea Party"; follow in your "namesakes" footsteps, grab your "axes" and "AX THE TAX CODE". Bring the Economy / Revenue UP , not drag it DOWN??

Donbems--so,assuming you haven't been out of work for the last 20 years, when you filed your income taxes, did you take the standard deduction? Did you declare your wife/kids as dependants?

If so, YOU TOO took advantage of exemptions and loopholes. But hey, continue slugging away at it.

I'm ALL for a flat tax, but ONLY if it means EVERYONE pays it. No matter how poor. OR how wealthy.

His daddy will be so disappointed...

Ronmey supports the 1%

Ron Paul supports 99%.... and the other 1%

MOmaid: Yes; BUT I'm the 99%; I don't have the "cuts" & "caps" like the RICH & Corporations DO?? The "standard deduction", wife & kids are NOT "loopholes"?? "AX THE TAX CODE" w/NO "Cuts" & "Caps" =equals= "NO DEFICIT"! (I'm glad you put in there; "or how wealthy?)

Where is Ron Paul? Oh, that's right, he's taking a 2 week rest for the stress of New Hampshire.

@starbuck49 It is pretty clear that you neither think much on your own, nor do you read much beyond MSNBC articles. Ron Paul took a mere 3 day trip back to Texas to spend time with Family, while his whole campaign pushed forward full steam. He has already been campaigning in SC today and got Sen. Tom Davis' endorsement this evening. Please, try to read more on a candidate and not sound so ignorant next time.

Whats that i hear starbuck49?

Sounds like your mad because my man Ron was hard at work for your freedoms. Oh and:

At a rally that just wrapped a little while ago in Myrtle Beach, SC, Senator Davis announced he is endorsing me for the Republican nomination! Over 500 were at the rally! http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

Senator Davis has been one of the most sought-after endorsements in this South Carolina primary race.

Matter of fact, one of my establishment opponents, Rick Santorum, recently told The Hilton Head Island Packet that, “To get an endorsement from someone like Tom Davis is a big deal. It would speak volumes to folks and make them take notice and give us a look.”

....and I'll bet you believe in the tooth fairy!

Joohn

Ron doesn't stand a chance in he!! of ever winning the office.

Yeah, go Huntsman, go Palin, go, go, go, repubs.... WEEEEEEEE..... Wait, hmmm (clears throat) I mean, Another one bites the dust..... RP 2012 or 4 more years of Obama Repubs. So, what's it gonna be, y'all?

John-2995258,

Let's face it, Ron has these libs running scared. He's the most likely candidate in both parties, to end all these wars, but when push comes to shove, the libs don't want to lose their "stuff."

Marjorie - You are correct, funny how peace loving lib's want nothing to do with Ron Paul, I guess it's just all about the side you think you like not the values and what a person really stands for regardless of party affiliation.

Ron Paul has libs running scared?

I do believe it's the neo-cons who are scared. The self-appointed kingmaker neo-cons like Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kagan, Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton & William Kristol.

Their entire foreign policy is having a slow motion referendum in the Republican nomination process, and it's not looking good.

Well, unless your an independent or swing voter - then you are laughing at the pundits as their neo-con world crumbles around them.

When I hear derogatory comments about Ron Paul and his age, I am reminded that people still lay around watching WCW eating twinkies and look at voting like it's a popularity contest based on looks so sad.....

RON PAUL the best guy for the job period.

Guess who Romney's largest campain doner is????????? YUP GOLDMAN SACHS OF SH*T!!!! LOL!! So all you simpletons who think he will make a better life for you..HA HA HA, ROMNEY WILL EAT YOU FOR LUNCH AND SPIT YOU OUT!!!! LOL

Nothing new that Huntsman endorsed Romney. The two families are best friends and neighbors at one of their many homes according to interviews the daughters had given. Those girls leaked allot of info about the Romney, Huntsman, AND OBAMA personal relationships.. Don't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure you all can look it up & I hope you will. The families of both Huntsman and Romney set side by side at all the GOP Debates yet no one seemed to notice without main stream media telling you what they want you to know.. Its sick how elite play the "PEOPLE" like a game of chess to keep power over our government. I have said it before and I'll say it again. Our Government is like a bird. One body, two wings, same poop. Time for us to get rid of them all who have a record of not upholding the OATH to us. Time to trick them back and elect the only one who is the Peoples President.... RON PAUL 2012

Anyone who wants to change Washington is belittled and discredited...neither party wants the lobbyists and huge donors to disappear...or term limits or the end of our overseas wars and hundreds of bases and billions spent on weapons and defense contractors and a return to spending on the people here at home.

Huntsman is his own man, and would not compromise his message to the wishes of a few big $ donors with their own agendas - like the Kochs, the Waltons, the neo-cons, the Christian Right, and huge military contarctors. This election has been bought and paid for by special interests dictatod by the corporate oligarchs. Worse than Russia these days here...why worse? Because Americans will not become informed enough, or are in complete denial about wh is controlling our society, and who's intersts are being me at the expense of who else....

Sad. The GOP/TP philsophy is disengage your brain and throw everyone under the bus - even yourself - and vote for anyone with an "R" after their name. Insist that all babies be born, then do nothing to support their families and education. Preach hate and division and foster ignorance. Support the police state and the mercenaries that profit from war.

Yes - another fine example of this country regressing, and falling further behind the rest of the world. Huntsman was the only GOP candidate who sought to engage voters based on the issues - not red meat topics. That type of intelligent discourse of course would never do in that party...

Rightwingw(h)ac-kjob, you stand corrected, it was 'the self interest of the GOTP Party affiliation,' which is just ONE of the reasons the 'Rightwing' gets most of their information to the public wrong, by only saying PART of what was said, thus making it SEEM to be contrary to what really WAS the truth. Nice try on just that one. Fact is, Rightwing, those who listen to Faux News have less understanding/intelligence as far as politics or government are concerned, thereby making them the sheep, as opposed to your banal reasoning, insisting it is the other way around. Your statement about the GOP stepping in to stop things isn't even humorous, more like treasonous towards the American people as a whole. If I'm to listen to you telling me about anything, am I to get a frontal lobotomy like you too? Let me know when you are done lapping...

Tango, as far as abandoning 'agendas,' isn't that what every one of the Republican candidates have done, as to adhere to whatever 'winds' that can carry them to a nomination of their Party? If you have neither time or interest to 'educate' anyone, it shows the lack thereof, but then again mei WEN ti, sport. It is obvious, from what you've deduced, that working along with the Chinese Gov. has made some money for your Bain-like corporations. Kudos for you with your beat-around-the-bush GOP tactics as far as 'guessing,' but as far as mind-altering media and education system, isn't that what Bush II brought with his No Child Left Behind Mantra, which FACTUALLY has show the dumbing down of education in the United States by SOCIALIZING education to the bare minimum, and Faux News Corp., which is just a polished scandal rag on tv, which the masses gulp down like daily koolaid. You, with your 'holier-than-thou' attitude, amount to nothing more than placing 2012 America back to the 1900's with your GOTP Party's backwards agenda.

It's a shame Huntsman is dropping out. He is the only one of integrity, intelligence and a true love of this country running for the GOP. The extreme right is killing what once was a proud party.

@starbuck

Ron doesnt stand a chance in he!! of ever winning the office

First of all, Ron is critisized by the media, and by his own party....because of the corruption and main stream b.s.

So what that means is, with all the bashing and "ceiling" limits claimed by the media....Ron has blown them all away.

First they said he was nuts and tried to hide him from public view....but people saw him and heard him and realized that they were lying. So Ron is moving up.

Then they claim if he wins Iowa, Iowa is irrelevant,.....well, People are not stupid, and realize there is a hidden agenda in this political game....He came in 2nd...great job!!!!! Imagine he had fair, unbiased coverage....he'd most likely have won.

People like Ron Paul, because he is fighting for our freedoms (and yours too)....he is fighting for our (and your) civil liberties.

The 'establishment' doesnt want Ron in, because they reap "corrupt" rewards at tax payers expense, and Ron Paul would interfere!

So while Ron Paul has a tougher time than anyother candidate...he is pressing hard and beating ALL their "ceilings" and "limits"....and while he "may not stand a chance in he!!" (as you put it)....he may just beat that too!

I hope for you sake, as well as mine, that Ron Paul becomes our next President!

RON PAUL 2012

Maybe...or maybe the Chicago Mafia will...LMFAO.

Tango, with such articulation and knuckle-dragging intelligence, you better stay with the 2-step. With foreign affairs knowledge, Huntsman might well be a consideration for V.P., unless the Bush II team running Romney's camp decide differently. Santorum's extreme-right will have nightmares just pondering a vote for Romney.

Yeah...he was in China and as ambassador in a position where he was only exposed to what the Chinese government would allow....er, is that your "foreign affairs knowledge" was? If so, you need to get a new definition of what qualifies him as an expert.

I spent eight years in China in almost every part of the country and I can tell you what he didn't see....95% of what China really is. He knows how to gambei with the best of Communist leadership....and nothing else.

He was a goon for the current administration as an extension of his liberal views. We do not support his agenda.

I don't see Romney picking Huntsman as his running mate. Romney needs a running mate from the South to appeal to southern conservatives. If, and that is a big if, Romney wins the presidency, I see Huntsman as a great choice as Secretary of State.

The koch brothers are backing Romney the 1% er.

The Koch brothers are the "Joke", they are the "Mafia". The republican party has turned into that and of the Christian Devil. They have become Evil, personified. Pay the filthy rich more, so the working class can pay more taxes, after all, it's only fair. GTH you filthy scum, you know, Perry, Palin, Romney, Cain, Bush, Cheney, Bachman, Gingritch, etc. etc. etc....GTH Y'all

Tango, funny that a person who was in China for the period you SAY you were there for, has such a vast and superior knowledge of the inner workings of a country than an Ambasssador would. Care to divulge the reason for which you found yourself in that country, if not in a military/corporational position? BTW, Hunstman was a Republican, who worked WITH the present Administration, instead of against it, as those who are bound by duty to their COUNTRY are apt to do, over the self-interest of their GOTP/PARTY affiliation.

So is Goldman Sachs, actually Goldman Sachs is backing both Romney and Obama. Kind of makes you think if this is just all kabuki theater.

Fantomdog & Robert Bruce70 - Great posts both of you!

Wow, tango. Are you fluent in Mandarin as Huntsman is? If so, very well played. The Ambassador to China is more of a spook role than most ambassadors, and I'm sure that is how Huntsman operated. The notion that you'd have a better grasp of the "real" China than the Ambassador is just flat out ludicrous, so maybe you ought to "sierra tango foxtrot uniform".

A note about the so called "self interest of the GOP"

Public service is intended to be just that; service of the public. That means NOT doing something just because the President wants it done. That means you are supposed to answer to the public for what best represents them.

You guys kill me with your "GOP are obstructionist" Bull crap. The DNC are illusionists and only come up with destructive and detrimental ideas that will further make you and your friends more reliant on them while they sit high on their thrones. They play the political game at the direction of their absent leader and point fingers at the GOP every time the GOP don't get in line and play sheep.

Fact is that the libs are so used to the sheep of this country just buying into their crap and blindly following anything they throw out there that they now don't know what to do about someone who actually stands up to them. They're dumbfounded that someone would actually have the audacity to state that the libs ideas SUCK! Just because you're in the public office does not mean you are obligated to go along with ANYTHING that would not be good for the people you represent. Barack has no ideas but tells his lapdog Reid to come up with some ideas to accomplish X (which is usually bad for the country). Then Reid comes up with horrible ideas and in his wormy pansy-ass fashion tries to ram it down our throats. The GOP has stepped in and said "enough". We're putting a stop to this madness.

You libs should be thanking God (yeah I said "God") for some people who are actually stopping this runaway looney train. Let me tell you this about your awesome leader and his great ideas. If you're paying $500 a month for health care right now...in 2014 that's going to be sitting at $1500 per month thanks to your brilliant leader and his lapdogs. Take that one to the bank because unless it's derailed that statement is a fact. Liberalism is anti-American.

@Fan...IMHO, Huntsman is a political piranha and knew he could only have gotten elected in Utah as a republican. Hence, afterwords he had no problem working with the Dems. He is a RHINO and would abandon the republican agenda in a split second if he thought it would benefit his career. But, even Obumbo understood his character defects.

And if you don't understand why he was only exposed to the things that the Chinese government choose, I don't have enough time or interest to educate you to as to why. Believe it or not, I really don't care. In my capacity I worked with the Chinese government and added to a market that contributes to billions of US export dollars and tens of thousands of US jobs. It's up to you to guess what industry I represented...and if you don't then mei wan ti.

Your dedication to the liberal agenda is lamentable, but understandable given the mind-altering media and educational system in place today. You want to support the socialization of the greatest and most successful country in history, have at it. The voting public understands the difference and will not allow it to continue.

Gloria

As apposed to the whole democratic party being a joke right?

Somebody get Don Mclean on the phone.

@Brad436 I would say you are correct. Yesterdays debate forum introduced someone there from South Carolina as the future V.P. on CSPAN.. He was from South Carolina... Unfortunately I was trying to watch the Fox coverage of the debate while flipping to CSPAN during it comercials while trying to research something else at the Whitehouses website all at the same time. lol. He reminded me of a polished Clinton/Romney Howdy doody looking guy about 40 something and after 5 minutes of hearing him support more spending of our tax dollars I switched back to Fox's primary forum and the Whitehouse research for the day.

Stop spreading mis-information Rightwingwacco. This country has yet to use any real Liberal ideas and yet people like you talk as if their Liberal common sense ideas will never work. The fact is you or I will never know until we start using common sense and stop using this Trickle-down BS that doesn't work and hurts our economy.

Wake up people. It was Republican poilicies that nearly crippled our economy before Obama came in and stopped the bleeding. The country has now started going in the right direction. Do you seriously want to put those same Republican ChickenHawks back in power? Have we all forgotten the financial meltdown in 2008 due to deregulation of the banks and Wall Street?

Republicans don't care if the value of your home has dwindled or if you have massive student loan debt. They only care about getting their tax breaks for the already wealthy, while putting the burden of paying for 10 years of war on the backs of the working class.

Rightwingwac(o)

If you're paying $500 a month for health care right now...in 2014 that's going to be sitting at $1500 per month thanks to your brilliant leader and his lapdogs.

This is another lie from the other right wing wackos out there. Show me somewhere...anywhere in print that your false, fear based statement is true. The right (wrong) ruled with fear the entire time Bush was in office. And they keep it up with whacked out druggies like Rush. Pity those of you living in that fear.

What Obama's health plan will hopefully do is make the fringe element responsible for paying their medical instead of me, a middle class tax payer, having to pick it up. You don't want to be a responsible adult? Then get off your butt and campaign for universal health care. Something every other country in the world has! We are becoming so backward and third world country in all areas that the last thing we need is a Republican in office. Those old b******* have NO idea how to move forward.

By the way what IS the plan for health care should the Republicans win? Sameo-sameo? Like I said...This lib is tired of paying for your Republican ass.

well said Ryan

Bob, you still have Wig Romney, Nut Gingrich, and Drag Santorum.

Bob: I agree. While I don't agree with some of Mr. Huntsman's politics, he is a patriot and a gentleman. As a conservative Democrat, it is difficult for me to comprehend how Republicans can not grasp how he is exactly what they should want; he's very conservative, intelligent, and could beat President Obama. It is, a sad day.

I was interested in him at first, but, he lost me with his sniviling "...my sons are serving..." It was like he was taking credit for their service....weak. As well, he came across as a phony and weak speaker...not what we need at the helm during these times. I fear he would have failed miserably against Obumbo...

Mary, I used to be a conservative Democrat, but became an Independent when it was clear that moderates were no longer welcome. Both parties seem to dismiss the moderates or bipartisan candidates in the primaries. When you see the extremist posts on these blogs, it is not hard to see why people like Huntsman do not do well in the primary elections.

Yo John...and we'll have the White House come November 6...LMAO.

Bob, say hello to the next Secretary of State.

No joe, we could do worse. Actually, I can't complain about the job Hillary has done in the job. Huntsman understands the Chinese, which would be useful in a Secretary of State. China is emerging as the world's other superpower and US policy towards China has been woefully ignorant of Chinese culture and politics.

Bob: You are correct about the extremists taking over both parties. At this point in time, I think the GOP contains more extremists than the Democratic party, but both sides have become more extreme. I guess your are also correct that it's not difficult to see why Mr. Huntsman did not do well in the primary elections, but it is also difficult to swallow.

Mary, the party in power always has the luxury of appearing less chaotic. But, I have to agree with you, people like Santorum scare me. (While I now regret voting for Obama in 2008, I would do so again to avoid a Santorum presidency.)

TangoChuck

Yo John...and we'll have the White House come November 6...LMAO

For as much time as you spend LYFAO, you must be sitting on bare exposed coccyx by now. For the record, most of us here wouldn't mind it a bit if you just decided to SYFM, lima oscar sierra echo romeo. We'll just see who's lauging on November 7th. Hint: Scott Walker's recall will be a harbinger of bad things to come for the radical Right in 2012.

Bob: I don't regret my vote for President Obama, but would have strongly considered voting for Jon Huntsman. I really don't think that I can vote for any of the GOP candidates. I suppose that if Mitt Romney is elected POTUS, his governance would probably be center right, but, at this point, I'm not sure.

Bob & Mary - I like your posts also, crazy how the far left & far right get the grease.

Rick, you're nuts if you think Walker's going to be recalled. He has way more supporters than you might think up here.

Huntsman was rational, eloquent, and logical and had me seriously considering giving him my vote until he opened his mouth about China. Every single time anyone said anything the least bit negative about China or our relationship with them, he was right there spouting about how our ties with them aren't close enough, how we don't want to insult them, etc. While I'll agree it's generally not good form to insult someone you owe money to, I was starting to wonder if he wasn't actually a Chinese citizen with the way he would carry on. We're having a hard enough time in this country as it is, selling us out further to China would not be an improvement, and that's exactly what it sounded like he wanted to do. Like I said, that was really too bad because he had pretty much everything else going for him!

I agree 100% with you Bob. (sigh...) No Joe may well be right though. Huntsman could make a very good Sec. of State.

Calling it now. Romney picks Huntsman as his running mate.

Waiting for Walkers recall :) Now after the whole world seeing Perry in action I can't imagine why he isn't up for recall too!

Stoopid Texans would rather let him embed their system with more Perry payoffs than get off the couch and do something. Guess the saying is right....you get the candidate you deserve.

because the way Texas government works rico Perry doesn't have the power that Walker does, guess us Texans aren't so stupid after all.

1SGFitzsWife4ID

guess us Texans aren't so stupid after all.

Relative to the Texans you've presented as leaders over the past few decades, you set a pretty low bar.

MonkeyMo

Rick, you're nuts if you think Walker's going to be recalled. He has way more supporters than you might think up here.

How about a bet? 10,000 bucks? That seems to be your 1% party's standard wager these days.

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lmfao, alpha hotel.

Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum.

One of these three will win the nomination.

As a progressive I certainly hope so. Huntsman was the only rational one of the lot, outside of Buddy Roemer. Having the clown car carrying only the weirdos is a blessing for the Dems.

alberto_ny

obama is done and I am a Dem

Unless of course you're really a Republican and a liar.

Jungle, Santorum has the evangelical vote (all 10-13% of it). When people look at Newt, they have a hard time actually voting for him. Paul is interesting. He is actually an honest, principled politician. You've got to admire that, but some of his positions are pretty extreme. I like the man, and do agree with some of his points, but the whole package is a bit hard to take. While Romney has some baggage, he actually has a skill set that might be very useful in a president. People like to bash Bain; however, when you look at the facts, it has a great track record at launching new businesses (like Staples), and helping others to recover. True, not all of their operations have been a success, and some of their successes have come at the cost of jobs, but their record is actually pretty good. (I know the party hacks and trolls will have comments on this, but look at the facts and judge for yourself.) To make America competitive again will require hard choices. Look at Kodak and Fuji Film as an example. Kodak did not retool and tried to avoid layoffs and stay the course. Fuji downsized the film portion of their business and grew new operations. Today Kodak is near complete collapse and Fuji has grown in new directions. Kodak's approach might have seemed more humane at the time, but Fuji is the one that employs more people today.

Ironically Bob,

Romney would be an effective super-czar for Ron Paul in his quest to downsize government.

I would agree that Romney has excellent skills, it's his policy and delivery that's questionable. His platform is "if you enjoyed the last 12 years under Bush/Obama, get ready for more of the same"

If Romney had not sold out to the neo-cons, he'd be looking a lot more electable.

Bob, it's a sad day when a succinct recital of the facts can bring me near ters-

But thank you, thank you, thank you.

Kodak/Fuji is an absolutely brilliant example of what's wrong with companies who believe their best bet is to stay the course, vs. a company that sees where their market is headed.

Kodak had a history of ignoring the truth. First, they failed to recognize that "instant" pictures would dominate the market- so they shut down their research into "Polaroid" type film- re-entered the market with old technology- and got shut down for patent infringement. It's important to note that they originally abandoned that market because the prints were inferior- they did not understand that the vast market would be looking for instant gratification.

They made exactly the same mistake with digital photography. They did not think that serious camera buffs would ever get hooked on digital- so they passed.

Do you know anybody who uses film?

Recently, Eastman turned down the opportunity to develope better technology for the camera portion of smart phones. Did not think it would go anywhere, they did not have the staff to do the research, and retooling/ hiring the kind of personnel to take advantage of that opportunity would mean laying off some workers.

So, now, they'll all get laid off.

Too bad they did not bring in an outfit to rationalize their business twenty years ago. . .

This is why Dr Paul does not Criticize Mitts about what he did at Bain, Dr Paul's position is that Business has to grow with the times, restructure or die, there are no other options.

He's about growth, new over old, sound business policies and sound money free market policies.

What is not to like?

His policy on Iran?

his policy on Iran is the same policy Lincoln had about Britain and France during the Civil War, they should mind their own business.

WE Should be minding our own business all around the world, simplest way to put it, since we get very little oil from them. Please tell me what our compelling interests are over there, if not for the mega oil corporations?

Dr Paul Quote: (from ABC News internet 12/30/2011)

“they don’t threaten our national security.”

Paul was responding to a question from an Iowa voter who asked the Texas Congressman whether he could conceive of a situation where he would preemptively declare war on a country.

Paul admitted that the president does need the consent of Congress to declare war, but did say, “If battleships are off our shore, an imminent attack, the president has an obligation to respond.”

But in the case of Iran, Paul provoked his rivals and exclaimed, “they can’t even produce enough gasoline for their automobiles.”

I don't buy the nuclear bomb possession argument. If such an argument was valid, why aren't we a bombed out nuclear waste already? There are plenty of governments out there that have nuclear weapons that would like us to be a bombed out nuclear wasteland.

So, WHY hasn't it happened by now?

Are we as a nation so insecure in our world position that we need to impose our will, values and beliefs on everyone else?

I"m going to post a link to a post from an Iranian on Dr Paul.... (I know it's Paul fan site but that doesn't change how they view Dr Paul over there or it's impact on how they view us)

www.dailypaul.com/195601/iranians-for-ron-paul

What's not to like about Ron Paul? Ah...that he's a racist?

Bob767984- while I respect your opinion I really don't get it. The reason President Obama has not been successful has been the obstructionist GOP. So, if a party decides to keep a President from accomplishing anything you reward them by voting for them? President Obama has put together a number of jobs bills - some of which include plans the GOP wanted - yet the GOP leaders (and I use the word loosely) will not let the bills go for a vote. Romney is a businessman - who has moved more jobs to China than anyone else running. I totally understand your uncertainty about jobs and the economy. I just don't think electing someone who has done their best to destroy our economy is the answer.

sarah-3519311

I would love to read your proof, without referencing the debunked newsletter argument.

PS: the newsletter argument has been debunked so well that Al Sharpton doesn't even try to make it anymore. Need to come up with some different proof.

Oh, and I did not see Hillary do that?

And you call Obama rational and intelligent.

Time for a CAT scan buddy.

Obama is more rational and intelligent than any of these GOP clowns running for office. OBAMA 2012.

President Obama is the most sane running. And, let's get real, no one has put more jobs in China than Romney. Wait until the fun really begins when the TV ads touting his "accomplishments" air. Romney has no integrity and no morals when it comes to jobs. He is the "best" the GOP has? How sad!

God...I hope not.

His sanity could help the ticket, but the double Mormon thing would very likely be a loser. I suppose more than likely he's looking for some Cabinet position or similar should Romney get elected. A smart guy knows when he's beat and tries to cut his losses. At this point, trying to get a job in a Romney Administration probably makes sense. Otherwise he probably fades into obscurity.

Now, while I don't want him to be selected for cabinet, I agree with your assessment.

Can't be VP.... R's wouldn't put 2 mormons on the ticket...... it will be someone very Conservative & Christian.... maybe Rubio ( FL a must win state )........ Huntsman could be his pick for Sec of State though.... I think they worked together before.

I see tango as ambassador to china. He is the most knowledgeable.

No, it's going to be Nikki Haley for VP. That's so obvious. Female, southern, totally not Sarah or Michelle, this is why the recent South Carolina lovefests. BTW I am Democrat voter (ND does not have registration) who respected Huntsman. Only saw a few min of one GOP debate--the waterboarding remarks when Michelle assured us she WOULD use waterboarding (even, apparently, if she had to make an opportunity to do so). Huntsman did well.

As for libs not liking Ron Paul?--he appeals to a lot of young people in their Ayn Rand stage of life. And old coots (well, a few young coots) who insist income tax is unconstitutional.

TIDubai

All the republicans have read the Constitutuin, Didn't you remember the reading class Boner gave as soon as he took the gavel? To bad they didn't know or understand what they were reading.

There are a bunch of Democrats that could stand some "Boning" up on the Constitution.

The best way to save the environment is to recycle your computer and shut off your electricity. But as you are doing neither, then what virtues are you trying to uphold? What really are your standards?

ah ah funny. No, the best way to save the environment is to shut your mouth and recycle you.

Not going to happen Chuck, President Obama in ANOTHER LANDSLIDE. ALL ABOARD

Smoke a rope ??? Who's "US" Chuck ??? Since when do inflatable dolls get to vote ?? Huntsman was the only one who didn't need a full frontal lobotomy !!!

Sorry, Chuck ol' boy. But Obama is gonna win. I mean, the GOP is fractured, and I don't know if Romney can gather Ron Paul's supporters who could easily vote for Obama or just not vote. And stop smoking dope; Obama has done a lot for this nation and he'd be better than every Republican candidate COMBINED. We'll be seeing your sorry-looking face on election, when Obama wins and the Dems retake Congress.

Obama Biden 2012

Democratic Congress 2012

America 2012

Beat the TP/GOP 2012

Another idiotic Faux News line about socialism/welfare being a Dem. thing, Tango. Last time people checked, and YOU might want to realize, is that most of the socialistic/welfare programs were coming out of RED states, whose voters will keep shooting themselves in the foot voting-wise, inspite of themselves, because their fearless bleeders tell them to. We already know what happened since the 2010 elections, the extreme-right obstructionists of the Tea Party association has high-jacked the GOP Party, whose train wreck is going to stop abruptly and change course towards a Dem. hold of both Houses. And your military jingo isn't going to help you now, try ... - - ... because your boat is sinking faster than the Titanic.

Shut up, Tango. November 2010 was the biggest mistake America ever made. The damn Tea Party screwed up the debt ceiling crisis, couldn't even vote for a paid-for Jobs Bill, and bungled up the payroll tax cut, revealing how they are actually maidens for the 1%. Even millionaires asking for higher taxes couldn't persuade them. They are the lousiest bunch of politicians in the history of the US. The GOP nominee will be handicapped by their divided party and the will of the people, and Obama will kick their butt easily. I just hope the people are smart enough to vote a straight Democrat ticket for Congress to fix the mistake we made in 2010.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

UP YOURS GOP!!!!!!!!!!

NBO-Nobody But Obama 2012

That brings up a good question since his name was mentioned. Where is Biden? Is he even in DC? I never, I mean never hear anything about him. I think I've seen his name in the news maybe an average of once a year since Obama took office. I know his main function is to take over should Obama become unable to hold office, but seriously, does anyone actually know anything about what he's up to? Granted I readily admit I don't regularly troll the DC political rags, but usually you at least hear something about the vp!

Whoa boys, your nerves are showing.

But, hey I understand. If I were trying to bolster up the biggest threat to our way of life in the history of US politics, I'd resort to lies, scare tactics and subversion too. Obumbo has had a modicum of success at it, but the fad is wearing thin and grand experiment is about to end.

Somewhat pathetic that you'll be among the last men standing for this abomination, but well understood in today's political environment. And great that the values that made us what we are will kick your butts in November.

Freshieee, Obama IS the 1%, but everyone looks the other way when you are taking about libs. Nancy Pelosi is one of the richest people in congress, just look around! They talk about the horrible rich people while sipping $200 a bottle champange and eating Russian Caviar. Talk about hypocracy! Heaven forbid they should spend their own money either, it's so much better to spend ours jet-setting around! Thank the lord for the 2010 elections, I was sweating having her 3rd in line for prez.

Biden is away on a deserted island where his mouth can't get the dems in trouble before the election! Funny how they always made fun of GW, but Biden is so much more fun to watch!

saneincali, being among the 1% isn't the problem. It's being among the greedy 1% that feel corporate welfare is great because we create jobs in China but welfare to help the poor is bad.

ModerateIndy - you're wasting your breath. The GOPers can't understand what you wrote. You're absolutely right. The 1% who are Democrats go out of their way to help others. And, President Obama has put many jobs bills on the table which the GOP in Congress block moving forward. I think November could hold surprises for quite a few of them. I certainly hope so! Huntsman may well be appointed to a new ambassadorship by Obama. He is a man who is respected and does well representing the US.

Actually, I hope Huntsman could be appointed as Secretary of State, or something like that. His experience in dealing with China could do wonders for this nation.

That's very unlikely. Huntsman's father is a multi billionaire and founder of Huntsman Industries. John Huntsman ,Sr is far wealthier than Romney.

Senior sources also noted that many fundraisers questions why Huntsman chose not to fund his campaign with his personal wealth.

The part that seems to have upset his staff the most, was that he didn't reward them with larger paychecks from his personal wealth. The fact that someone CAN afford to spend more money, doesn't mean that they should throw it away on a Quixotic quest, like his staffers would have liked him to do.

Romney has no such problem with spending some of his money because he knows he will more than make it back, either through "writing" books or the talk circuit circus that the also-rans frequently appear on/in. He may be able to fool a lot of people into voting against President Obama, but he won't be able to get enough of a majority to vote him "into" the oval office.

How's that torture, NDAA, SOPA, PATRIOT Act, GITMO, Drug War, 5 extra armed foreign adventures since he took office, and list goes on and on working out for you, Obama supporter?

Must love neoconservatism...because that's what Obama is...Bush 3.

Some people are just sad. You can see their lack of intellect, or worse their willful ignorance, just by their avatar.

So ProIndividual, if Obama is using Republican policies already and they don't seem to be working...then how is voting for an actual Republican, who would continue to use those same policies but 3 times worse make the country better? Try using some critical thinking yourself once in awhile. Especially before calling other people out on their intelligence level.

Oh and bye the way the President doesn't make policies all on his own. There is something in government called Congress. You know the same Congress that has a 9% approval rating that refuses to do their job.

ProIndividual - perhaps you should look in the mirror. All the attacks you're making actually seem to describe you perfectly!

RealisticRyan - And see that is why right wingers will never understand your posts. You're realistic! And, oh so correct!!!! :-)

You think the Chicago Mafia and other union bosses are forcing Obama to run again?

You think the Chicago Mafia and other union bosses are forcing Obama to run again?

You know what's really irritating about you right wing paranoids? Your paranoia is so low grade, unimaginative and petty. You sound like your still living in the 50's or 60's or worse.

culheath....

Funny, because the comment he was responding to was from a paranoid delusional conspiracy theoriest liberal.

I find them both completely insane, and you completely blind because you say through one and not the other. Partisan blinders on much?

I was responding to the single commenter directly above me. I agree that the paranoid delusions come from every political affiliation. I just see more of it from the right wing, perhaps that IS my bias, but I doubt it. It's much more likely in my opinion to be a result of the fact that a great deal of right wing thinking is rooted in a habitual preference for faith based thinking over rationality. :)

Take your crystal ball back to Walmart, there's been a recall, it's a Chinese defect. Ron Paul is home resting for 2 weeks from all the stress of New Hampshire.

Forget it Corpsman,, Ron Paul is the GOP's "insignificant other" & the GOP just anointed Romney

If Paul had any credibility as a contender he would have run 3rd Party Libertarian

I have a feeling that Ron Paul knows he's not going to win, but he knows he will have *some* influence on the Republican ideology, to convince them to do much less federal government work for the electorate they are supposed to serve, and to make them naively believe that nation will be better off being much more isolationist.

rradiko,

It'd be nice if people looked up words and knew their meanings. STOP listening to the propaganda machine; the media.

Isolationism has three parts ALL necessary to the definition.

1. Closed borders (not Ron Paul)

2. Protectionism and tariffs (not Ron Paul)

3. Noninterventionist foreign policy (this is Ron Paul)

As you can see, most DemoCrips and RepubliBloods are MORE isolationist than Ron Paul. They either want all 3 of those things, more likely 2 of them, or most cases at least 1 of them. Since Ron Paul only wants the last one, he cannot be isolationist, by definition.

The word "isolationist" simply has a negative connotation (rightfully so, as protectionism failed after being tried in the Great Depression and hindering our growth even in it's most explosive eras, like the Industrial Revolutions). It's also looked down upon due to not just economics but it's racist border policy tendancies (which ironically also inhibits economic growth; yes, immigration is CONDUSIVE to economic growth). It has one good quality...noninterventionist foreign policy. The reason they use the word "isolationist" on Paul is to slander his beliefs, which they are afraid of since their corporate masters won't benefit from them, but the economy as a whole would.

So let's not toe-the-line on the media propaganda morons spew about noninterventionism equating to isolationism...it's simply isn't true. I wish people would use wikipedia once in a while. It'd save us all a lot of grief from listening to our BOOB TUBES like they tell us the truth about much of anything.

I agree, Pro, let's be sure of the meanings of words when we use them, but let's use another (real) dictionary than the Ron Paul Standard. That's pretty rich, your talking about propaganda when you've bought into it lock, stock and barrel!