Timers they are a changing – a new South Carolina poll on the Tea Party

18% - very supportive

20% - somewhat supportive

62% - not at all supportive

In other news...

While claiming God has him on speed dial - Perry is defending urinating on dead people!

WASHINGTON -- GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry is accusing the Obama administration of "over-the-top rhetoric" and "disdain for the military" in its condemnation of a video that purportedly shows Marines urinating on dead bodies in Afghanistan.

No one has been charged in the case, but officials in the U.S. and abroad have called for swift punishment of the four Marines.

A military criminal investigation and an internal Marine Corps review are under way. The Geneva Conventions forbid the desecration of the dead.

Perry tells CNN's "State of the Union" that he thinks the Marines involved should be reprimanded, but not pursued with criminal charges.

Perry said "18, 19-year-old kids make stupid mistakes all too often and that's what's occurred here."

If Perry represents compassionate Christians, I'll take a pass! BLECH!

Huntsman would be better off a V.P. or in some cabinet position. He does not have the money or grassroots support to carry on.

Ha ha. Every time I see Perry on a stage, I wonder, 'What is THAT guy even doing? NOBODY Cares.'

Huntsman puzzles me. At first blush he seems to be intelligent, rational, and experienced. But a truly rational person knows that anyone with those disqualifications has no chance of winning the Republican nomination.

I still think Huntsman is running right now more with the goal of drawing off a few percentage points of support from Romney so that somebody else can beat him. Unfortunately for that strategy, that somebody else would be either Gingrich or Santorum who are even more unpalatable.

don't need romney. don't need maxine, nancy or barney either.

You know Dennis - I think the tea party movement has waned because it's issues are now at the forefront.

In other words it has gotten it's message across, or at least all of the politicians are focused on the debt.

Even the dems.

As for the peeing thing, I defer to Daniel Pearl.

Truly a shame. The only real one who shows a level of sanity.

I still like Obama, but if we end up up with a second choice, Huntsman is the best of the group.

Pleas SC send Santorum and Gingritch home. Perry is already toast.

Give the Marines a pass on this a reprimand is more than enough

Sorry Tom... the juvenile behavior the Marines exhibited, only inflames an already violatile situation.

The Geneva Conventions forbid the desecration of the dead.

There are rules in place for a reason - of all people Marines should understand that.

They teach, or used to, all about the Geneva Convention in boot camps. No excuses for such behavior.

Wow.......We agree! now the punishment is up to debate. There are ways to show these marines they were wrong. I made a huge mistake during a "This is not a drill" Russian Submarine tracking event. The NC2 plotter (weapons tracking table) malfunctioned (servo on the red dot fried) The Captain in CIC asked me "Petty Officer whats wrong with the tracker" To which I responded " Its Broke sir!" Which caused laughter tobreak out for a second. Needless to say a week later I was attending XO's mast and then Captians Mast. The end result was I was restricted to ship for 3 days (We were in the Med and would not touch land for a few more weeks) and forfeited my 2nd good conduct medal.

Give it a rest!

Huntsman would be better off a V.P. or in some cabinet position. He does not have the money

Really, his father is several times more wealthy than Romney. In fact a billioniare.

The Huntsman endorsement will be read in every toilet in South Carolina!
What a way to get a message across ...

The Republican candidates are natural laxatives. Is colon care a top Republican priority?

Dennis - you might want to put the link to the poll, otherwise your statement is worthless. consider that in NC PPP shows that tea party isn't a huge favorite, but no means as bad off as your poll. Being PPP is a pretty reliable poll, you might not want to put that link in, because it will show how worthless a source you are using to make your point.

If you saw a dead person on the street and urinated on him right here in the USA, what do you think would happen to you? The way you people are talking is like you are advocating breaking the law, preforming necrophilia, persecuting religion and just plain childish behavior by the United Stated Marines who are suppose to be held to a higher standard than your common street junkie. These "men" are representing the United States of America to the ENTIRE WORLD, this is inexcusable behavior and they should be court martialed, given a dishonorable discharge and thrown in prison. Wearing two different colored socks is a mistake, urinating on the bodies of falling soldiers is criminal.

Spanky: I'd argue the Tea Party has waned because they were discovered as having no game plan, no direction, no candidate and no ideas...they are the same old disgruntled, uneducated older white guys who want to holler and rant and pitchfork their complaints about being 'overtaxed' in the era of the lowest relative tax rates of the last two decades. They're simply irrelevant. The issue that has real staying power is income inequality and Tea Partiers as a group are not smart enough to figure out how to embrace that one for any meaningful or lasting impact.

We should be the envy of the world. They should strive to emulate us. If others had pissed on American dead people like Perry would be outraged. Certainly this is not the way to make friends and influence people. We look like boors or barbarians in the eyes of other nations. The ugly American has no bounds unless we take action to punish such behavior. Those "kids" are old enough to serve and die for their country so they should be old enough to know better than to do such despicable things. I was taught by my late father that to gain respect one must first be willing to give respect. If we are to be respected in the Arab world it is time we started giving respect. We don't have to agree with them and their beliefs but they deserve respect as much as we do.

That is right Baldeagle, you lead by example and we have been setting a piss poor example for the world to follow, pun intended!

It's comments like that by the far right that eats away at their following, everytime Perry or one of the otherr wingnuts say these things they alienates more and more people, pushing them away from the once proud Republican brand. No sane person thinks urinating on dead people is proper conduct for our troops, and Americans in an overwhelming majority dont want to go back into Iraq.

[Give the Marines a pass on this a reprimand is more than enough]

Ummmm, no...wait...not just no, but HELL NO! As brave and admirable as these Marines once were, nothing short of a DD will suffice.

I spoke with my nephew after this happened, and as he heads to Afghanistan from Twenty-nine Palms, his quote was: "Those guys better hope they are out of the country by the time we get there".

Seems The Incontinent Four have made quite a few enemies within their own ranks.

What a waste of four great military careers. Hope they can say "you want fries with that?"

Two things: one the endorsement proves there are some republicans left that have not lost their minds, or self respect.

secondly I taught mt children to have more respect for a dead bird they might find in the yard much less a human, even if they were the enemy, their behavior was shameful and they should not be representing the USA in any capacity. Whats the point if you are going to become the same thing you are supposedly defending yourself from, whats next dragging bodies through the streets, and sick you tube videos, I got no use for the crap they pulled, it has no place in our military, they should be dealt with in the harshest manner allowed.

Poor John Huntsman!! I just noticed that most of the comments on this page hardly mention him at all even though the article we are commenting on was written about him.

As far as this "peeing controversy" goes while not smart because of it's propaganda value, big deal. How is it any different than leaving playing card with the army division insignia on the enemy's corpse like they did in Viet Nam. In my opinion not much. So the tribal turds find in offensive. Who cares they're a oversensitive bunch of sand crammers. Instead of being upset over how the dead are treated they should start concentrating on how they treat each other while alive.

You do not understand it is more about our sensibilities than it is theirs, it does not define them it defines us.

Unless you have been in a combat zone with the enemy shooting at you, you really have nothing worthwhile to say about the Marines pissing on the bodies of the very people who have been trying to kill them. These are young men placed in situations that produce a level of stress that you can not possibly understand. They are not to be commended for their actions but neither are they to be condemned. A reprimend is an appropriate level of punishment, but nothing more. What is disgusting is the POS Obama trying to make hay with this.

Bullshi#. No, I've never been in a combat zone, but my brother has, as both a Marine, and later as an Army Infantryman. He has taken enemy fire, he has watched his friends lose brain matter, and I an 100% confident in saying there is no circumstance in which my brother would have ever, urinated on the dead. You know why? Because to do so is disgusting and inhumane, and even at the age of 17 when he first signed up, he was a grown-a$$ man. This action was not a "youthful mistake," it was a vile and hateful act by grown men, and any child of 12 is capable of understanding how reprehensible it is. These young men should be dishonorably discharged at the very least. They do not represent the principles of the country I know and love.

A few of the Democrats/liberals etc on here are a bit too much. Huntsman has INTEGRITY, something Newt, Mitt, Perry and Paul totally lack.

I doubt I will be voting for Huntsman but at least I can admit that.

Quit acting like so many of the Republicans who post here...Not all Republicans are evil hatemongerers--even if that is hard to tell from this years crop of Presidential wannabes. Give credit where credit is due

So it's okay to blast these Talibans to doll rags, just don't pee on them afterwards. Seems like someone's "sensibilities" are slightly skewed. Why is suicide the preferred alternative to capture by these "enemy soldiers"? Read a little Afghan history and don't act so shocked at what happens in war

Huntsman dropped out of the race yesterday; why is MSNBC still posting this article???

Because if he was to un-quit, that would be an article they could talk about. "Huntsman back from the dead"

In my opinion he's better than any Republicans, in his more moderate political ideology and personal character. But the repubs is all about business owners, oil, war, tax cut for the rich, big hyped words of wealth and glory. So Huntsman doesn't connect with those who became accustomed to abusive politics for their benefits. They think Romney can keep giving them that and they are dreaming because America doesn't operate in a bubble. They are in denial of our social situation and position in the world and will hear anything from the biggest liar to forego looking into the mirror.

You raise a good point however though readership of traditional newspapers is way down such endorsements grab headlines on local and statewide TV stations and as your posting and mine here today show those 'newspaper endorsements' grab headlines on the MSM websites and quickly filter out via Facebook and Twitter.

Good point, Ron, never thought of that.

If anyone still reads newspapers, it's the establishment, including the folks with deeper pockets and including journalists themselves (there isn't much original reporting on the internet which regurgitates the original reporting for the most part from mainstream media) and yes, those do still have enormous influence eventually, with the electorate (Same way CNN and FOX news have outsized influence despite in reality reaching a miniscule portion of the electorate...because of WHICH electorate they reach..in CNN's case, the educated, the movers and shakers...in FOX's case...well, we know who they reach...)

Every rare once in a while I will buy a local paper for the want ads or when something big happens locally, but for the most part our hometown paper has taken a wide swing to the extreme (tea party) right in the last few years even though our community, as a whole, has not. I wrote the Editor many times about it and her explanation was "it's the media's job to expose the lies of the current administration", I responded "Only when a Democrat is President?" and of course her response was an afirming silence.

I guess the moral of the story is that local papers do not always represent the views of the majority of the population, but are representitive of a very small sampling of any given town

He needs to go the Americans Elect route.

It just so happens I'm an Americans Elect delegate. I signed up about a month ago. Supportin' my main man Bernie Sanders. I believe he's tracking 5th at the moment.

I signed up Friday. Haven't chosen a candidate yet.

That's great Phine! I'd like to see more folks take advantage of this alternative. My favorite part is that the winner has to choose someone of a different party as his/her running mate.

Chucky, I love that part of it, too!

It's really too bad that Americans can get so "into" a guy like Huntsman... All he's had to offer is canned Democrat rhetoric; nothing of substance. So much nothing-of-substance in fact, he got called out by David Gregory and asked to answer the question (about what austerity measures the American people should have to endure to reduce America's PUBLIC debt)...

As a side note, U.S. public debt is not MY debt. I don't owe the FED shiot for robbing me, my parents, my grandparents, and my children BLIND (everybody, it seems, is still watching the other hand...)

RON PAUL 2012.

EVERYONE else is More of the Same ol' Lame-o.

Chucky Stuart ... Bernie Sanders had he been a Canadian would have been a long serving Prime Minister.

Wouldn't that be just peaches when the President of one Party disagrees
with the Vice President from another Party on key issues especially foreign affairs.

Dennis,

Originally, that is the way the system was set up, the winner was president, second place was the VP. And mostly, in the past, the vice presidency had no real power - just the tie breaking vote in the senate. Another note, the Vice President was only to take over the Presidency until new elections could be scheduled if something happened to the President.

Ideology,

Watched Barry Sanders this morning on "UP" with Chris Hayes. I really like that guy.

Wouldn't that be just peaches when the President of one Party disagrees
with the Vice President from another Party on key issues especially foreign affairs

Can you imagine?

Think we have gridlock now...?

Or could it be used to force compromise? Just an idea.

I remember well how the system used to work and why it
was changed – my fist National vote was in 64 – had to be 21 to vote back then.

You are correct about no real power except the power of speech.
It would be the same as the Prim minister of Russia saying something different
than the President of Russia – who are other leaders/countries to believe?

The media is vastly different now than it was 50 years ago – now worldwide 24/7.

Well, with all the money corrupting the system, I am willing to try something new. It can't be any worse than it is now.

phinephancy,

BTW – If the Vice President today were Republican do you think there would be more compromise?

Do you think there just might be more attempts to assassinate our President to get a Republican in charge?

I doubt a dem would pick a repub running mate. He'd probably choose someone from 1 of the lefty third parties if he had to choose someone from other than his own party. This could bring other parties up for consideration.

The problem I have with Americans Elect is that they are also using a non-profit status for political purposes. The Popular Amendment Movement is not an official organization, nor is it trying to collect any donations for furthering their cause....it is strictly a totally grassroots movement that relies on each participant to go out and circulate the two constitutional amendment petitions. Have any of you gotten involved yet? If not, why not? If you want real political change, this is the only way we will ever get it. Note that the method of selecting the candidates for the general election are solely dependent on the SINGLE National Primary day election to be held just eight weeks prior to the general election. There will be NO national party conventions to select any candidate for president, senator, or representative. All three offices are to be filled only through the primary/general election process. Go to www.faircampaignreform.us to get involved.

Dennis, '68 was my first year to vote, since I was born 11/15/44. But yes, politics and our election system was far different back then.....thanks to no real electronic age.

Both candidates should be required to be non-party affiliated....all registered voters and candidates should be registered as INDEPENDENTS to be part of this party and truly be GDI's (that is what I became known as in OH when I refused to support either party after '68.)

If you want something new, phine, then you should have been supporting the PAM the past 15 months. That is the only way that we will get rid of the money corruption

phinephancy,

Freedom of speech will ensure that money stays in politics.

The way to get the money out would be a Constitutional Amendment. Do you see two-thirds of the House and Senate voting for that amendment – I don’t.

The next option would be to call a third Continental Congress.

Dennis,

It was just an idea to be considered. Right now, the GOP cannot even compromise inside its own caucus, but I was thinking long term.

And as for your assassination suggestion, do you think, since John Boehner is now Speaker, that there are those plotting for the deaths of the President and Vice President so he, Boehner can be in charge? I would sincerely hope we are a country that doesn't believe that a "coup" is the answer to political differences.

And that is exactly what the PAM is all about.....getting the constitutional amendment passed that will ban all corporate, union, non-profit, PAC, SuperPAC, etc. campaign contributions AND third-party advertising. It calls for each state to call a constitutional convention to pass the two amendments. That is the OTHER constitutional method for passing amendments and is the route for the indirect method being used by the Popular Amendment Movement.

Article 5:

Article V - Amendment Note1 - Note2 - Note3

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, sh

Oops...the last part of the last sentence didn't copy: shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Here is the direct link for the amendment process:

http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html

Dennis,

I just see something bad happening to our country with all the money now being flooded into our political system. I don't know how to solve the problem, I just know the problem exists and that maybe it is up to us, the people, to start to figure out a way to solve it. SCOTUS did us no favor with their Citizens United decision, but the problem has been around longer than that. First step, in my opinion, is legislation stating that corporations are NOT people and money is not free speech.

Look, I am not trying to upset you, or anyone else for that matter, I am just pointing out what I feel is a real problem in today's politics. And it is not just at the presidential level, but in all levels of politics. What is it the president once said, "If it is a man made problem, then man can fix it." I absolutely agree with that.

phinephancy,

You are not upsetting me at all, I’m easy to get along with but I am a realists. I point out the roadblocks so that everyone can see how difficult some change can be. I agree 100% that we the people no longer have control of our country and until we get the money out of politics the rich and powerful will decide our future.

More bad news … Here comes “Citizens United” part 2.

In a brief filed Jan 10, 2012 in the Fourth Circuit Court the RNC argues that the federal ban on corporate donations is unconstitutional in large part because it applies across the board to all corporations: While the concept of corporate contributions evokes images of organizations like Exxon or Halliburton, with large numbers of shareholders and large corporate treasuries, the reality is that most corporations in the United States are small businesses more akin to a neighborhood store.

Empowering corporation to donate unlimited money directly to candidates.

Dennis,

Can I just start beating my head against a brick wall now, or is it too crowded and I have to wait in line? Why is the RNC doing this when the polls show that the American people WANT the money out of politics?

phinephancy,

The game plan is exposed – destroy unions and empower corporation to donate unlimited money directly to candidates insuring more money for Republicans while limiting (hopefully destroying) the Democratic fund raising base.

Remember, watch what you wish for – Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Dennis,

The thing most people don't realize today is the benefits they now get (without being a union member) is because of unions. 40 hour work week, paid vacations, health benefits. Thank a union member for that. And unions now only represent about 7% of today's workforce.

Here's my adage, it is the Golden Rule. He who has the gold - rules.

phinephancy,

People talk about starting a third party but most States make it difficult. We already have a half dozen National Parties but not all of them are in every State.

Everyone was amazed by the rise of the Tea Party … but … how many ran on ballots under the Tea Party? They ran on the Republican Party ticket.

I worked in a union shop when I was young. I was a production Supervisor and later a Manager in a union workplace. I also worked as a consultant and as contract labor in union shops. I never had problems that I didn’t have in non-union shops. I seldom saw what some call lazy workers or abuse of power.

Americans Elect will be on the ballot in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. Jon Huntsman would be the perfect candidate. He would pull equally from the GOP and the Dems. He is actually very conservative, but a sane conservative.

His economic policies would balance the budget not put our country further into the hole as ALL of the other GOP candidates plans would do. Do some research. Perhaps, this is the reason the Wall Street Journal endorsed his plan.

Has anyone looked at his amazing record as gov of Utah? The state was a well oiled economic machine under JH. Even the Democrats there loved him.

He actually gets things done. He is able to pull together the best ideas from both parties. He may not be a person that has perfect sound bites, but that is because he actually has full thoughts that take more than a sentence to say.

Wow, msnbc runs irrelevant articles like this. Obviously The State is less intelligent than everyone who knew Huntsman would drop. Why is this a story?

Paul gets the endorsement of the most popular state legislator, a tea party favorite, and his numbers are surging in SC. And you don't even cover the story. MSNBC must really be afraid of Paul.

This is a 2 man race!! Romney and Paul are the only candidates with the national organization to take down Obama, money to do it, and the head to head poll numbers to TIE with Obama.

Highstreet, you forgot that Ron Paul is the only candidate with the independent and youth votes to actuall break the "theoretical tie" between the prez., Obama and any given Repub. candidate... Otherwise. YES!

Have you actually seen Huntsmans record? He is far more conservative than any of the other GOP candidates. If you believe he is a liberal, I suggest you buy an English to batchit crazy translation dictionary.

Larry Robinson-1323081

The Marxist Party dissolved itself in 1993 when the committee in charge failed to show up with a corkscrew.

Ideology,

And I still have that corkscrew hidden away!

I was wondering where that corkscrew went.

Used it New Year's Eve.

Actually, the Fascist wing of the Marxist Party sold it to the Socialist wing who pawned it for a bottle of wine for all to share.

That's because them danged fascists always wanna hog all the money. Luckily, the anarchists found some loose change under a sofa cushion and sprung for a 12 pack of PBR.

And that's where they lost me. I prefer Yuengling.

Sofa mining paid for a few lunches in my student days. It's honest work but the vacation pay sucks.

Yep, not much in terms of vacation pay. But there are other bennies. I've found quite a few interesting non-monetary items while sofa mining.

Recliners can also be a lucrative place to look.

Sofas were very interesting places in the 60s ... sometimes you would find a 'ticket' to Wonderland. Oh sheisa, now the red dogs know I was once a hippie.

Sofas - Yes, Recliners - Yes, Mattresses - Never!

"Mattresses - Never!" ... that's because my banker slept there.

I was a flower child. Flowers in the hair, daisy painted on my cheek (face). Singing along with the Mama's and the Papa's............

And from your stupid posts on here you did a lot of the wacky weed!!!

[...daisy painted on my cheek (face).]

...rats...

cliff,

I can tell you have no music in your soul.

ideologyspoilstheview

Larry Robinson-1323081

The Marxist Party dissolved itself in 1993 when the committee in charge failed to show up with a corkscrew.

Another liberal who is ignorant of what goes on in the US.

the Communist Party USA endorsed Obama in 2008 and has endorsed him again for 2012. Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate as a member of the Socialist New Party

The Communist Party USA leader, Sam Webb, explains why he will continue to support Obama and Democrats in 2012. The Communist Party USA has consistently supported and infiltrated the Democratic Party.

Also note, Sam Webb, the leader of the party, called Obama a friend back in 2008.

Sam Webb Via People’s World:

http://politicons.net/congrats-communist-party-usa-endorses-barack-obama-and-democrats-for-2012-election/

http://peoplesworld.org/does-it-matter-which-party-wins/

Here is the New Party link noting Obama as a New Party candidate for the Illinois State Senate seat that he won

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932

In 1972, Gus Hall, then leader of the Communist Party USA, wrote in his book, "A Lame Duck in Turbulent Waters," describing what had been the long-time party policy:^[10]

Our electoral policy has for 25 years been expressed in the phrase, 'the three legs of a stool'....The stool was constructed at a time when the Party was under sharp attack....a reflection of the Party's response to the difficulties.

The flexibility was contained in the idea that no one leg of the stool was the main leg. Depending on the political pressures, one could choose a particular leg or legs. In fact the concept was built on the idea that when the other two legs, namely, the Communist Party and the forces of political independence, got strong enough, then and only then would the stool sit on three legs. But until that day comes the one operating leg would be the liberal wing of the Democratic Party.

In 2010, in a report prepared for the Communist Party 29th National Convention, several members of the Young Communist League USA wrote;[13]

Currently, the conditions rarely if ever allow us to run open Communists for office. When members do run for office, it is within the auspices of the Democratic Party. Otherwise, we find ourselves supporting progressive (and in some instances not-so-progressive) Democratic candidates. Despite how much many of us would love to run comrades for office as Communists, we all agree that this is how we currently have to function in this political climate.

http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Communist_Party_USA#Communist_Party_infiltration_of_the_Democratic_Party

Until 2004, the Progressive Caucus of Congress listed the following members of Congress as also being members of the Democratic Socialists USA. They removed this info as people like myself began publishing the information.

The Democratic Socialists of America, Progressive Caucus members lists the following elected Representatives in the US House of Representatives as members (as of 2004):

OFFICERS Dennis Kucinich (CO-CHAIR, OHIO-10) Barbara Lee (CO-CHAIR, CALIFORNIA-09) Lynn Woolsey (VICE-CHAIR, CALIFORNIA-06) Peter DeFazio (OFFICER, OREGON-04) Jesse Jackson, Jr (OFFICER, ILLINOIS-02) Major Owens (OFFICER, NEW YORK-11) Bernie Sanders (OFFICER, VERMONT) Hilda Solis (OFFICER, CALIFORNIA-31)

MEMBERS Neil Abercrombie (HI-01), Tammy Baldwin (WI-02), Xavier Becerra (CA-30), David Bonior (MI-10), Corrine Brown (FL-03), Sherrod Brown (OH-13), Michael Capuano (MA-08), Julia Carson (IN-10), William Clay (MO-01), John Conyers (MI-14), Danny Davis (IL-07), Peter DeFazio (OR-04), Rosa DeLauro (CT-03), Lane Evans (IL-17), Eni Faleomavaega (American Samoa), Sam Farr (CA-17), Chaka Fattah (PA-02), Bob Filner (CA-50), Barney Frank (MA-04), Luis Gutierrez (IL-04), Earl Hilliard (AL-07), Maurice Hinchey (NY-26), Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02), Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18), Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH-11), Marcy Kaptur (OH-09), Tom Lantos (CA-12), John Lewis (GA-05), Jim McDermott (WA-07), James P. McGovern (MA-03), Carrie Meek (FL-17), George Miller (CA-07), Patsy Mink (HI-02), Jerry Nadler (NY-08), Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC), John Oliver (MA-01), Ed Pastor (AZ-02), Donald Payne (NJ-10)., Nancy Pelosi (CA-08), Jan Schakowski (IL-09), Jose Serrany (NY-16), Hilds Solis (CA-31), Pete Stark (CA-13), Bennie Thompson (MS-02), John Tierney (MA-06), Tom Udall (NM-03), Nydia Velazquez (NY-12), Maxine Waters (CA-35), Mel Watt (NC-12), Henry Waxman (CA-29), Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Larry,

You also have no music in your soul.

phinephancy-4252115

Larry,

You also have no music in your soul.

I have a song(s) in my hear every day.

But I find it curious that you think only marxists have "music in their souls". How is an ideology that is opposed to personal liberty one that brings "music to the soul"?

Go back to sleep Larry and let the sober adults do the talking.

Larry Robinson-1323081

And how many Theocrats are running around the GOP hoping to turn the US into a Christian Theocracy? Far more than the shrinking CPUSA. 99.999 % of us on the left could care less about Marxists and we would be just as happy as you to see them find a flat planet to sail off of.

As to Socialists/Marxists/Fascists, let me put it this way ... if you put a Socialist a Marxist and a Fascist into a room with a gun and two rounds in the chamber, at the end of the day only one would survive and that person would not be the Socialist. They do not like each other!

The CPUSA can do whatever they want and it will be to no avail. We on the blue side know that their agenda is dead and we have no desire for it ... we are capitalists with a heart. Time for you on the red side to stop kicking a dead horse.

Ideology,

Knew you would want to come out and play! :)

But they do have some great low country boil. Love it.

I was stationed at the Naval weapons station for a while and my daughter was born at the Charelston Naval Hospital. My favorite tee shirt is "Where the hell is beautiful downtown Goose Creek?"I agree Phine, most real southern states have good food. And I count northern Florida. Down where I live most people are from someplace else and the culture is a mix of NY/NJ/Mass.

jolly,

To this day, my hubby raves about the best hushpuppies he ever ate was at a whole in the wall, fish camp restaurant in no where, SC.

Aside from my daughter being born just after a deployment, the things I remember best were

1. A Cheeseburger at McDonald's (they were not global then)

2. Seeing the band "Boston" at the Columbia Coliseum. An awesome evening. Back then it wasnt so easy communicating when you were over seas. Calling home meant waiting in long lines for a 15 min call radio transferred to the US.

Right. Ironically, Colbert has more substance and vision than Hunstsman can even HOPE to fake.

Actually Colbert has more substance and vision than all the republican/tea bag party candidates put together. Say what you want Colbert makes allot of points that all the righties are afraid of. Look at what he says about super pacs. The man is brilliant.

i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p?

q,r,s,t,u,v?

w,x,y,z :)

Now we've said our ABC's, tell me what you think of me. :)

john, john, john, john......................................

You have a lovely sense of humor, thanks :)

you ruined our fun john.

Drat. I hate it when a grown up enters the room :(

:(

WOW, Flirting on the vine!

Jolly,

What better place to flirt?

let's all look through the magic mirror oh I see phine and move and there's jolly oh and look I see john

Court marshal and 20 years as a disgrace to the uniform and aiding the enemy.

This picture was on Time magazine. It appears Obama is excused from putting his hand over his heart during the Star Spangled Banner. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. He wants our military to act professionally, should he not also walk the walk?

Sorry Tomvet, but their fellow marines aren't giving them a pass.....they've disrepected the Corps and given the enemy more propaganda fodder.

@ Nanette-2317272

This picture was on Time magazine. It appears Obama is excused from putting his hand over his heart during the Star Spangled Banner. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. He wants our military to act professionally, should he not also walk the walk?

The president is not supposed to salute during Hail to the Chief, which is in fact what was being played when this photo was taken.

Really? well we learn something new everyday if we are lucky. Thank you for the enlightenment.

But I do have a question...he was not the copmmander and chief at this specific time he was campaigning. He also did cover his heart while at state dinner in England and in Russia. Just wondering what the protocol really is.

You could do worse. Love your screen name!

I rather like the Bloom County Meadow Party: Bill the Cat/Opus 2012

I have no idea why He is running as a Republican. Hmm

One thing about Huntsman to remember, though, he supports the Ryan Plan. He isn't the moderate some believe.

I didn't know that, thanks

He supports portions of the Ryan plan. This bothered me a little too, until I researched a little more. Don't just take someones word for something, take the time to look it up and see what is what. And the biggest endorsement a candidate can have is the people of the state he served liking him. Romney and Santorum can't make that claim.

Shelia,

Excellent points. I wonder if the members of the GOP base realize the reason that President Obama tapped Jon Huntsman for the ambassadorship to China? Because he knew that Huntsman could be a formidable opponent in 2012. However, the GOP has now gone so far right, that won't be a problem.

Phine, I still have concerns about the Ryan plan, I wish it would come up at debate so we can get some idea of how Huntsman would put it into practice. It doesn't sound at all good to me and I have read different things on Jon Huntsman's take. I know he endorses it, I just don't know if he endorses it as a starting point or as it stands in its entirety. So it is still a big concern.

sheila, I agree about the state's people not liking Santorum. I'm from PA and think he's a flaming nitwit. The PA voters showed him the door a few years ago by a wide margin.

Huntsman only looks as good as he does because of the crowd in which he is running. He speaks Madarin for a reason - he sent a lot of jobs there in order to rake in huge bonuses.

I don't see "all the rhetoric" you're talking about. 95% of the comments are Progressive/ Democrat?

BTW, I agree with everything you said.

Funny thing/perhaps you can 'slain why Obama Obama surrounds himself only with 1%-ers?

Axelrod, Jarrett, Rahm, Daley, Lew all multi-millionaires.

Guess that's him just 'keeping it real? After all THe obamas are both harvard lawyers and multi-millionaires themselves.

And just wait until he is out of office. Nothing but fat stacks of cash will flow as long as the eye can see.

Because he's a pimp for Wall St. and the FED?...

A person can be surrounded by the 1% wealthiest in our nation and still be a compassionate person toward those less fortunate - and that is President Obama. The 1%ers that are around him don't seem to mind his wanting to raise taxes on the wealthies while giving breaks to the less wealthy. As a matter of fact those 1%ers have asked congress to raise their taxes so that revenue can be generated.

Unlike Romney and the rest who want to keep the tax loopholes and corporate welfare flowing to the wealthiest and let the less fortunate fall by the wayside.

That is why the media is pushing Romney and pushing Romney, because he represents the 1%. The media is owned by the 1%. America needs to wake up.

and listen to the drugster

What amazes me is that some of the liberals are willing toss entire states if the general populous doesn't agree with their point of view.

jolly,

Both parties are that way.

Unlike the people of the true progressive paradise Detroit, right?

I wonder what papers and television they pay attention to?

Jolly - what's the over/under on Detroit's total implosion - one month or two?

Funny thing is the more progressive a state is, the worse shape it is in. I wonder why that is?

Yes We Can, Yes We Can, Yes We Can, Yes We Can. Obama/Biden 2012, Clinton/Warren 2016-2024

Obama for the 99%? I fail to see it...He wants my great great great great grandkids to pay for the 99% free health care...

Huntsman understand economics, people, and the world. Obama only understands power, his wanting of it..

I can only say... I'm glad I'm 3 years from retirement and I dont need any government help. Now if the government tries to consider me rich because I have around 80k a year for the next 20 years saved to live on! Well then, Houston we have problems.

Obama is of the 1%, so who do you think he is going to help?? You??? Your neighbor?? Only those that have that is who he has helped and by the way helped himself too!!

When Obama signed a law allowing people to be held in captivity without a trial indefinately that tore it. Hard to vote for Joe Stalin and it is hard to vote for anyone in favor of abandoning the safeguards the United States Constitution

To be fair a lot of congressmen and women voted for the NDAA as well and should be branded traitors to the Constitution as well.

donnay:

You are unfortunately pro-fascism.

Fascism, before I am shouted down, here, is the marriage of the Corporation and the State. I don't think it could be any more obvious.

RON PAUL 2021!

If Obama is for the 99% then why is he being financed by the 1%.

Geez! It isn't even about the 1%.

The problem is the 2% of the 1% that have been raping the entire planet, all along with the intention of killing off (oh, sorry, they like the word "culling") 95% of the world population...

Take your propaganda elsewhere. Ron Paul is, in fact, the only candidate with a snowflake's chance. If everyone who "...would vote for Ron Paul, except that he can't win" actually voted for him, he'd win in a landslide. Maybe he's not pretty enough for Americans; they'd be more likely to elect effing Britney Spears/Kim Kardashian, and call it a victory for women's rights...

Joe D. Glenn: Ron Paul would destroy Obama. One debate between the two and it's game over for the man currently in office.

I am not sure if is that simple. I have a feeling certain members of Congress would disagree with anything.

I hope he ditches the GOP (They have obviously tossed him aside.) and pursues the Americans Elect nomination. Jon Huntsman needs to restore dignity to this country.

Our country needs someone in the Executive Office that can make a decision, someone who can work with the do-nothings from both sides of the aisle in Congress, and recognize the Judiciary as branch of government that is equal to (and separate from) the others.

And by "slave", I meant "puppet". (I would hate to be politically incorrect. :) )

They know they should be watching actual news programming, but instead settle for cheap entertainment fare.

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Actually, the only time I ever hear about the Kardashians is when watching what passes for news programming in America.

At this point, I would say I agree.

According to Republican History, 2016 will be Ron Pauls turn.

Occupy SoggyBottom!

President Paul 2012! No more same-o lame-o!

Its funny in a way, Huntsman is the most fiscally conservative republican candidate out there but his service to President Obama and the country is seen as a huge downfall. What gives?

His service was to America.

I am hoping that was sarcasm. One can never be sure. He served his country when asked, period.

I live in SC and am undecided although Jon Huntsman is beginning to appeal to me. If President Obama thought Mr Huntsman's qualifications we stellar enough to appoint him Ambassador, President Obama might be looking over his shoulder right now. I will watch the Debate tomorrow night and hope I can take away something that will help me decide before next Saturday. The bottom line is that we cannot have 4 more years of this sitting president!

When you watch the debate with Huntsman, if you haven't watched one before, don't expect quick one-liners from this man. I really hope that with his rise in the polls, no matter how small, he gets more debate time. So far most of the questions have gone to Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. Any voter who wants a balanced budget and is truly fiscally conservative would vote for Huntsman before any of the other candidates.

Dixie girl. So, what is your point? Get a clue and look at JH's record as Gov of Utah and his service to the country under THREE Republican presidents. Doesn't it make you wonder why FOUR Presidents have had Jon Huntsman work for them? Maybe it is because it is that he knows what he is talking about.