Obama’s Smaller Government

The President is going to ask the Congress for reorganizational power to shrink government allowing him to propose mergers that promise to save money and help consumers. First on his agenda is merging six sprawling trade and commerce agencies whose overlapping programs can be baffling to businesses.

We have a Democratic President that expresses a desire to shrink Government but will the Republicans and Tea Party members of Congress grant this President the fast-track authority? Will this become yet another example of Republicans voting against their own ideals just to not allow any small victory for this President?

That ones easy Dennis. Yes that's what the tea people GOP republicans do.

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Mitt Romney and the rest of the Insane Clown Posy are sore as a result rubbing the majority of Americans the wrong way.

More Americans think the nation is in the grips of class warfare than ever before. According to a new Pew Research Center survey - two-thirds of the nation believes there are "strong" conflicts between the rich and the poor in America - that's an increase of 19-points since 2009. Across all demographics - white, black, Hispanic - and across all political affiliations - Republican, Democrat, and Independents - as well as across all classes - poor, middle class, and rich - majorities of Americans believe there's a strong conflict between classes. That might have something to do with wealth inequality in America - which now rivals a lot of third-world nations - and the Occupy Wall Street movement, which has brought many of these inequalities to the forefront. Even billionaire Warren Buffet admitted there's class warfare in America - and he said that it's his class - the rich class - that's winning.

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=6173

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Bain Capital will be Romney's BANE.

Obama in 2012.

Dennis, when I saw that news blurp this morning, I thought about President Obama's State of the Union address. He talked about the over-lapping responsibilities in several agencies that should be consolidated into one to make it easier for business. This is what he means by Smart Government, a complete re-organization which has probably not been done in decades, if ever. Once again, President Obama has placed the GOP between a rock and a hard place.

Anything the president proposes is an automatic "NO" to the right. No matter what.

To avoid a second embarrassing defeat for Republicans over payroll tax cuts, Speaker Boehner will work around Tea Party-aligned lawmakers to reach a deal, according to congressional aides. “I think Boehner will seek a more accommodating approach to get a good percentage of Democrats to vote for it — even if it costs him a lot of House Republican freshmen,” a House Republican leadership aide told Reuters.

The President is going to ask the Congress for reorganizational power to shrink government allowing him to propose mergers that promise to save money and help consumers.

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This is nothing more than election year BS.

NOTHING is going to happen before the election, and if Barry wins, NOTHING will happen after except Barry taking his re-election a a mandate to grow the federal govt. Anyone who believes Barry's BS is a moron.

Phine,

And the party of No will be will be back in session next Tuesday.

And Tea Party caucus leader and ex candidate for President , Michele Bachmann will be back to work. The people of the 6th district are thrilled that she has her old job to fall back on, saying NO, NO, NO,... to anything that moves this country forward.

You're right, Joe. That's why all these Dems always have to lie and try to appear more centrist. If America had been a lefty nation all this time we would never have become the strong economic and military powerhouse we have been.

Mattpfl, good points. Mitt tries too hard to be just one of the ordinary folks, his "bitter politics of envy" remark emphasizes how out of touch he is.

Michael1969, and everytime I see your name, I say, thank goodness he's one of "theirs".

i wonder why he has waited almost a year? seems like he has backed himself between a rock and a hard place by having to follow up on a previously made commitment. maybe someone reminded him that he was about to break yet another of his many promises.

i expect that the congress, democrats and republicans, will give the president the opportunity to see what he wants to do. the proof of the president's desire will be when he delivers his plan to congress for a vote. will his plan simply be yet another campaign tactic or a good-faith let's do what is right. time will tell.

What I don't get about Romney's candidacy is he claims to know how to create jobs, i.e. by investing money in failing companies, yet he criticizes President Obama for using taxpayer funds to invest in the American automotive industry, an investment which turned that industry around. So how would Romney "create jobs" if he were elected President, if it's not by investing money in failing companies? Oh, the usual Republican mantra: cut taxes for the rich and reduce oversight of the banks. The same strategy the Bush administration used that resulted in the worst recession since the 1930's.

They cheat us. They lie to us. They steal from us. They even kill us. We hate them. We curse them. But, you will never meet one, see one, touch one. They exist only as a piece of paper. They are corporations, and NO, they are not people. It is only by the most tortured "reasoning" that corporations have the rights of human beings.

Five out of six people in this country claim to believe in a Supreme Being who created mankind. No other can create a human being. Yet, three or four people can get together, sit down in a room, and walk out with a document and proclaim they have created a person. Little wonder these people think they are gods.

A corporation is a piece of paper. A corporation cannot see, it cannot hear, it cannot walk. It cannot turn a wrench. It cannot design a microchip. It cannot build a home. More importantly, no matter what five delusional men say, it cannot talk. It does not have the power of speech. All the rhetoric, all the twisted words and illogical declarations cannot hide the fact that a corporation is nothing more than ink on paper.

To borrow from gunners: Corporations don't kill people; people kill people. The only answer is to make a corporation a person. This is a fantasy. It is a fiction. It is a denial of reality. Yet, that is the law of the land and that is why their creators love them so. They are shields. They are the wall that insulates them from their actions. "Don't blame me, the corporation did it!"

There is no other logical explanation for their existence. There is no business on the face of the earth that is conducted without a human being at the helm. That human can and should speak for himself, can and should take responsibility for his actions, can and should succeed or fail - no excuses, no straw men. That is really what capitalism is about.

Yesterday, John Q Citizen asked what is the way to remove money from our political system. President Thomas Jefferson spoke to this issue when he said, "..... "the selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain." That piece of paper knows no country. Corporation is the name, and profit is the game. Buying government is literally nothing more than a cost of doing business for the corporation. Its manipulators/creators want only to maximize profits by seeking special treatment, while shielding them from liability for their decisions and actions.

BP kills eleven men through negligence. No prison. Massey Energy Company kills 29 miners through negligence. No prison. This goes on and on and on. Corporations are NOT people. The real people behind this carnage walk away.

Are we really to believe that a corporation has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? It is the most flagrant of insults to say they are our equals.

Jody, great recap as always, thank you.

To you and Dennis -

Are our 'hardworking' Congress going to have enough time to work on this payroll tax? During the month of January, they are scheduled to work only a total of five days? They have been off since just before Christmas, they return January 17th. Makes you wonder, for what are we paying them ? Of course the less time in session, the less work gets done, the less work gets done the less the President can accomplish. Mission accomplished.

Romney, a man of many faces. I laugh in all of them!

phine -- during his short time as a United States Senator, a position he quite before the end of his term, Senator Obama voted with his party 96% of the time. I wonder how many of these 96% were No to something that President Bush wanted passed? My guess is not very many. Was that democrat obstructionism at play?

David,

That's an excellent post, especially the last 2 paragraphs. BP and Massey stroll away whistling "Yankee Doodle" while some kid gets locked up for life for selling on ounce of pot. Go figure.

James,

I wonder how many of these 96% were No to something that President Bush wanted passed? My guess is not very many. Was that democrat obstructionism at play?

Are you literate? I can't figure out what you're saying. Sounds like a complete contradiction.

james,

You make a point there. The problem is that he did vote for some proposals. I am afraid that the same cannot be said for the GOP. They despise the president, and make no bones about it. And will do anything, including saying no to reasonable ideas, in their desire to defeat him.

As reported by Rachel Maddow last night, this explains it all.

http://spreadingromney.com/

Romney V. - to defecate in terror.

This describes the entire right wing .. constantly in a state of terror .. messing their pants.

James lotsanumbers:

You wrote: "I wonder how many of these 96% were No to something that President Bush wanted passed? My guess is not very many. Was that democrat obstructionism at play?"

You guess? You wonder? Obviously, you have access to the Internet. Go find out. That way you could come here with facts rather than innuendo.

regarding whether you are a left/right nation. What you today consider left- used to be the right.

Facts do not matter when attacking President Obama. Yes, I am sure he voted against GOP proposals - after all he is a Democrat and the philosophies are different. BUT, it was political philosophy - not a wish to destroy the man in the Oval Office. Today, the desire is to not just beat but destroy. It has been said by members of the GOP on the floors of Congress.

mattpfl

The idea that working Americans upset that they are getting stuck with a higher tax rate than Wall Street hedge fund crooks is "jealousy" is offensive.

That's why Mittens won't release his tax returns. Everyone knows he's rich and nobody cares about that. Nobody is "envious". But he makes most his income off of capital gains and none by doing any actual work, which gets taxed at a higher rate than capital gains. He knows people who work for a living would get annoyed if they find out he pays a smaller share of his income in taxes than they do.

@David .. great post, however, it is for the reasons you stated that these entities are considered people.

They cheat us. They lie to us. They steal from us. They even kill us. We hate them. We curse them.

Just like the creeps in SCOTUS, just like the idiots controlling the Tea Party, just like the inane Republican savants running for president, because they cheat, lie, steal, kill, it gives them human qualities. The only way to dehumanize these organizations is through regulations, which as you know, the GOP/TP will never do. My counter to that would be to allow us to charge them murder, send them to jail, and then let's see how quickly they decide they are not people too.

"Romney filled his pockets for the run" ??????????????

The President is going to ask the Congress for reorganizational power to shrink government allowing him to propose mergers that promise to save money and help consumers. First on his agenda is merging six sprawling trade and commerce agencies whose overlapping programs can be baffling to businesses.

We have a Democratic President that expresses a desire to shrink Government but will the Republicans and Tea Party members of Congress grant this President the fast-track authority? Will this become yet another example of Republicans voting against their own ideals just to not allow any small victory for this President?

So Dennis you are for a further increase in executive power? The previous President expanded executive power tremendously, phone taps, unlimited incarceration etc. Just remember the memo's of John Wu claiming unlimited executive power.

This Administration is responsible for a Health Care system that is regulated by the Secretary of the HHS not by legislation, a Consumer Protection Office whose budget is not controlled by congress, an evisceration of the War Powers act, has ignored the concept of pro-forma Senate sessions (which the President used to support - flip-flop?), expanded the ability of the government to incarcerate American Citizens indefinitely and now wants to re-organize government as it sees fit.

You realize that the next Republican President can basically repeal the ACA by ordering his HHS secretary to change the regulations, no need to change the law? The same for the Consumer Protection bill as he can simply change the way its budget is calculated.

You realize the next Republican President can attack Iran with no input from the congress as long as "there is no danger to US armed forces"?

You realize the next Republican President could lock up OWS protesters indefinitely if they smash windows or perform criminal acts by declaring them terrorists?

The next Republican President can appoint recess candidates simply by declaring that Congress is not in session at the weekend because they are not performing any business.

My question is "Will you support all these expanded powers during the next Republican Administration?"

Phine, If you don't believe that the Democrats were set on destroying George W. Bush, then you're just not facing the truth.

Bush did plenty wrong, but from day one of his Presidency, due to the Supreme Court ruling, Democrats set out to personally and professionally destroy the man and the office. You might say they despised him.

They did a pretty good job of it, too.

..............................."The 1% has a declaration of war on the middle class"

They cheat us. They lie to us. They steal from us. They even kill us. We hate them. We curse them. But, you will never meet one, see one, touch one.

Speak for yourself. How is life in that agrarian, collective utopia you live in?

What I don't get about Romney's candidacy is he claims to know how to create jobs, i.e. by investing money in failing companies, yet he criticizes President Obama for using taxpayer funds to invest in the American automotive industry, an investment which turned that industry around.

If Bain had invested in GM, they would be looking at a HUGE loss.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20111114/AUTO01/111140434/1361/U.S.-boosts-estimate-of-auto-bailout-losses-to-$23.6B

And if Bain had tried to spin their loss into a good news story the way the Obama administration has done, some of their employees might be looking at jailtime.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/president-obamas-phony-accounting-on-the-auto-industry-bailout/2011/06/06/AG3nefKH_blog.html?hpid=z3

Great White North Observer

regarding whether you are a left/right nation. What you today consider left- used to be the right.

Absolutely true. Barack Obama is no more a leftist that Dwight Eisenhower was back in the '50s. Of course, there were wingnuts who called themselves "John Birchers" back in the '50s who did accuse Eisenhower of being a Communist or a Communist dupe. Now the modern incarnation of Birchers call themselves the "Tea Party" and are no longer the nutjob fringe. They have taken over the Republican Party and are now the nutjob majority.

jack -- sorry, i gave the folks here more credit that you suggest that i should have to understand the written word. i will keep that in mind for future posts.

Feisty

PS: Bev - have you 'dug out' yet? We got about half a foot out my way! ☺

Are you kidding? I sent my brother out to do for me. The snow looks beautiful on the rooftops and trees from the window. I wanted it for Christmas; not now.

One of the problems with this whole Romney/ Bain debate is that people are assuming that when your not of a business environment you cant truly grasp what happened to the companies in question. I have heard so many defending Romney saying thats how business are run. What rings true for me is that if you go in investing5 million and come out with 500 million there was an excellent chance that not only should that business survived but it should have excelled. The fact that these business's didn't is because there was purpose to make them a money make venture rather than a successful enterprise. I am not sure at all that this is the mindset that we need to run the country that allows money in the bank to preclude people working. That is part of this dept reduction proposal that will leave many more humans unemployed as they cut programs to balance the budget while the 1% has A LOT OF MONEY IN THE BANK. This is not the American Way There are enough resources for everyone to have something AND the 1% to have a lot. You do not have to gut the 99% to get rich or balance the budget. Keep that in mind as you are making your decision to vote

than Obama was/is about HIS associations with Tony Rezko, and William Ayers?

Have you found that needle in the haystack yet? I'm sure it is there if you keep up the hunt (hate to tell you, but I found that needle and discarded it long ago).

Dear Great White North Observer (which I guess means you are Canadian) You are correct sir (or madam).

Happy Friday the 13th everybody. By now I'm sure you all know that we celebrate the ill-luck of Friday 13th because history/legend tells us it was on a Friday the 13th that the King of France ordered the arrest, torture and eventual execution of most of the members of the Knights Templar because they had gotten just a little bit too big for their britches. This happened in the 13th century I believe.

And how fitting that we should celebrate the destruction of the Knights Templar as we watch the self-immolation of the GOP.

As I watched the news last night I just kept saying, over and over and over again, "God Bless you Newt Gingrich, God Bless you Rick Perry." Those are words I never thought would pass my lips, but I was overwhelmed with gratitude for the Pandora's box of woes they have opened on Romney and the GOP.

GOD BLESS 'EM EVERYONE!

I mean, you've got to admit, when Newt opens a can of "whup-ass" on somebody he gets the big industrial strength size can and dumps it all on the heads of his unfortunate victim.

GOD LOVE HIM!

Only political junkies like you and me know or care about Romney's Bain pain right now. But come this Fall, when the ads featuring Gingrich and Perry start running, calling Romney and Bain "Vulture Capitalists" and "Job Cremators" (sp?) the American people will be listening and I just won't be able to adequately express my gratitude.

HAPPY FRIDAY THE 13th EVERYBODY. GOD BLESS NEWT GINGRICH AND HIS SPITEFUL SOUL! GOD BLESS RICK PERRY FOR STAYING IN THE RACE JUST LONG ENOUGH TO SAY "AMEN" TO NEWT'S ATTACK!

It's all over for the GOP but the crying. Now they know how the Templars must have felt. This is the best Friday the 13th ever. It must SUCK to be GOP.

Obama/Biden 2012

Joe in Albany - Thanks for sharing the Gallup results. Do you think that one explanation for conservatism starting to grow more in the early 90's was because of the growth of right leaning talk radio and the two terms of Clinton? Could it be that more people call themselve conservative as of today because Obama is in power? The poll is large but is still a snap shot, I remember that near the end of Bush's 2nd term, the 'republican' brand was at an all time low after Bush's tenure.

Alan, NJ interesting comments at #1.30. We agree on some things don't agree on others. Not trying to peg you, but I see you as an independent.

Just wondering, who are you leaning toward this cycle and why? After all independents or moderates will decide this election especially if Gallup's snap shot numbers hold up in the voting booth.

Matt, yes and no. Those predisposed to not like the Republican nominee (whoever he is) will push that line of reasoning, and those predisposed to like that nominee will gaffe it off as sorta/kinda usual business stuff.

Will it play with independents? Tough call. There's a lot of resentment towards the Too Slick for Thou financial crowd, but it is generally a fairly weak attack. Every company might be in position to let people go sometime. And Romney's role in those restructurings isn't so clear cut.

The thing is, if you like the Occupy stuff, you're going to hate Romney... but then you probably weren't going to vote for any Republican this time around, so I'm thinking the Bain history is kind of a wash.

TO: Joe in Albany who wrote:

"This pretty much proves the fairy tale promoted by lefty liberal morons like “Mr. Ed” Schultz that “America is not a center-right country” is an outright lie..."

Just because you refuse to believe the truth does NOT make it a "lie".

I suppose you refuse to believe what Republican Mitch McConnell, who is your Senate Minority Leader, said as well. McConnell sent out a full blown warning to Republicans that, based on the popular vote, Republicans can NOT win the presidential election.

Furthermore, in order for Republicans to win ANY election they've engaged in all this "redistricting" in order to try to round up a bunch of clowns and "create" a regional area where they all vote "a" Republican into office.

It looks like all that offensive Republican "hate speech" worked, against the Republicans.

Obama / Biden 2012

Despite the usual dose of pro Obama offal on this site, the Bain issue will not do any serious harm to Romney. All he has to do is make the election about Obama's record of accomplishments, which, of course, doesn't exist!

TO: Damage123 who wrote:

"... That's why all these Dems always have to lie and try to appear more centrist. If America had been a lefty nation all this time we would never have become the strong economic and military powerhouse we have been."

NO DEMOCRAT, none, zero, zilch, would even want to be a hater, and no Democrat or Liberal is "trying" to be centrist, and just because there are a few points we might agree on, doesn't mean we're going the whole nine yards to hell with the Republican hate mob.

That said, we USED to trust Republicans at least as much as we do Democrats UNTIL Republicans lied the American People into war with Iraq and then backstabbed us by raising oil and gas prices, and sticking the middle class and the poor with the cost of that entire war, NOT TO MENTION all that AMNESIA Republicans have and their absolute denial of the truth of the matter: The 2 oil men Republican put in the White House attacked Iraq for one reason only: OIL.

Obama / Biden 2012

Romney is just cringe worthy and unbelievably awkward sometimes. I actually feel bad for him, because I don't think he tries to be a doucher, he just is and needs to accept it. Before he does that chuckle thing, I feel like he should make the disclaimer, "And now I'm going to try to make you relate to me through humor, Ha ha ha, see how light hearted I am!" No, no, no, Mitt, you're a Fat Cat, which is fine, if you got that way through honest means. Just please, embrace your inner Fat Cat, and this will be so much easier to watch.

...embrace your inner Fat Cat...

Wish I had come up with that line :)

By the way, that's where the effective charges on Romney can be found. His lack of authenticity. It is, as Sarah says, awkward and uncomfortable to watch sometimes. He's just not comfortable in this campaign persona he's taken on. So hit him there. It ties into the flip flopping and political weather vane narratives that are already well established. The guy is an actor, and not a very good one at all, desiring to gain the position of highest trust with American voters. There's an obvious mismatch there. You can't trust someone who is scamming you. That's what makes him such a weak candidate.

TO: spider-737231 who wrote:

"Despite the usual dose of pro Obama offal on this site, the Bain issue will not do any serious harm to Romney. All he has to do is make the election about Obama's record of accomplishments, which, of course, doesn't exist!"

Spider, it's NOT JUST DEMOCRATS, it's all of us working Americans and all of the Americans who WANT to work who will NOT take a chance on "Romney, the Job Cremator"!

Romney is ALREADY getting more support than he will get in the General.

We've been through this before with Republicans who put 2 oil men in the White House and still can't figure out why they attacked the 2nd largest oil producing nation in the world.

NOW Republicans want to hire a ROMNEY THE JOBS CREMATOR and think he won't do what he does best! Of course Romney is going to ship our jobs overseas, THAT'S HOW HE MADE HIS MILLIONS!

Obama / Biden 2012

Skip,

Great post.

The Templar reference is priceless!!!

More hot air from the misinformer in Albany. Here are some figures from 2007 - 2008, and we all know what happened then. Twist em how you like Joe. We all know you don't like real facts but it sure seems that lots of people not identified as evil liberals must have voted for Obama.

In August 2008, Americans answered that question this way: (1) 20% of Americans considered themselves to be very conservative; (2) 40% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat conservative; (3) 2% of Americans considered themselves to be moderate; (4) 27% of Americans considered themselves to be somewhat liberal; (5) 9% of Americans considered themselves to be very liberal; and (6) 3% of Americans did not know or refused to answer.

Sixty percent of Americans considered themselves conservative.

Just wondering, who are you leaning toward this cycle and why? After all independents or moderates will decide this election especially if Gallup's snap shot numbers hold up in the voting booth.

The current Administration has done enough that I am open to listening to Romney (nobody else is even worth contemplating). He is attractive once he gets past the primaries and can actually run as a NE Republican with moderate views. However, he has to close the sale and the Bain Capital attitude is troubling. I am all for making a profit but making a profit by destroying a company is wrong. I haven't looked at his 59 point economic plan yet, plenty of time for that, but I want hear some solutions that reduce the deficit without destroying the economy. His views on healthcare will also be interesting after the experiment in Massachusetts. I think the ACA is too complicated and only perpetrates a broken system, but I haven't heard a good alternative yet. Two things I do like about Romney are the rescue of the Winter Olympics, so he does understand finance, budgets etc, and I don't think he will be socially divisive, in fact I think social issues will be pretty irrelevant for his Administration.

Having said that I think the current Administration has to start laying out concrete plans for a second term. If they simply try to destroy Romney then they lose me. Also, more of the same is unacceptable. The idea that we can spend even more money to stimulate the economy means the next Administration is facing a huge debt crisis.

I'm up for grabs, although NJ will vote Democratic either way. Would like to vote against Mendenez though as he is a typical NJ Senator.

J. Merle Stanley-2759623

I make no apologies for the fact that I require an explanation as to why Obama has two such disreputable men as friends, at least one of whom is potentially violent. It would be the same if any other President were friends with members of the KKK or The Hell's Angels.

So, when Obama's campaign people yap, and bark about Romney and Baine they should remember that Obama STILL hasn't come clean about his relationship with Rezko and Ayers

J. Merle Stanley

You should apologize for being so ill-informed. You should also search the archives of the Chicago tribune. Then read President's Obama's Philadelphia "A More Perfect Union" speech which by the way is gong to be taught in school in just like Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream"

Obama addressed the subjects of racial tensions, white privilege, and race and inequality in the United States, discussing black "anger," white "resentment," and other issues as he sought to explain and contextualize Wright's controversial comments.^[3] His speech closed with a plea to move beyond America's "racial stalemate" and address shared social problems.

On March 27, 2008, the Pew Research Center called the speech "arguably the biggest political event of the campaign so far," noting that 85 percent of Americans said they had heard at least a little about the speech and that 54 percent said they heard a lot about it.^[4] Eventually, The New Yorker opined that the speech helped elect Obama as the President of the United States.^[5]

Jonathan Alter of Newsweek said "Barack Obama didn't simply touch the touchiest subject in America, he grabbed it and turned it over and examined it from several different angles and made it personal. Just steps from Independence Hall in Philadelphia, he rang the bell hard and well."^[41]

Obama stated that like other black churches, Trinity contained the full spectrum of the black community: "the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America."^[2] Similarly, he argued that Wright "contains within him the contradictions — the good and the bad — of the community that he has served diligently for so many years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_More_Perfect_Union_%28speech%29

J. Merele, President Obama is for real; you're not. You are made of plastic. I can see from here you are no PUMA. You a republican wanting to create havoc as well as the divide and conquer stragety.

reddev -- rachel and reporting in the same sentence? she is not a reporter but an entertainer

Joe in Albany - Thanks for sharing the Gallup results. Do you think that one explanation for conservatism starting to grow more in the early 90's was because of the growth of right leaning talk radio and the two terms of Clinton?

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Mark, the article actually states the number of BOTH liberals and conservatives have been growing since the 90's:

“In fact, both self-identified conservatives and liberals have risen in number since the early 1990s,indicating a growing polarization in American politics.”

It does not state “conservatism starting to grow more” as you say above. I believe that both parties have gone to extremes since the 1980’s and that has caused moderates that lean left or right to move left or right and now see themselves as liberals or conservatives, not moderates.

If, in fact, conservatives are growing more than liberals it is most likely due to the aging of the baby boomers. People tend to become more conservative as they get older.

david -- facts stated. you may draw your conclusion.

Thanks Northstar, I'm glad SOMEBODY liked it.

Maybe it was too many words.

Obama/Biden 2012

joe -- but for talk radio to have an impact it must have an audience -- their business is to make a profit. by the numbers of folks listening it would seem that they have satisfied a business need.

there is nothing that is or has stopped left leaning talk shows to do the same. i assume there are some. i personally do not listen to talk radio.

"And voters deserve straight answers about his record, so they can know how his perspective would influence his decisions and actions if he were president of the United States."

Oh so NOW disclosure is a GOOD thing!!!????

Good business man or bad business man. At least he has some "real world" experience in the world of commerce.

David you can't take a long stroll on the beach with a corporation...take the corporation out to a nice dinner...whisper sweet nothings in its corporate ear...you can't have sex with a corporation either. At least I wouldn't recommend it. Perhaps Mittbot would.

When a corporation farts, I'll believe it's a person.

Corporations aren't people, they are property. Money isn't expression, it's property.

These aren't sentient beings, and they aren't things sentient beings have equal access to, or equal ability to produce or use.

Like farts.

Alan - Fair and balanced response. Obama does need to lay out what a second term will mean for him. Perhaps he can do it by saying what his term will be about and not what it will not be about. I agree just attacking and spreading fear whether he is doing it or Romney is will not attract moderates.

I think that the Bain attack in the primaries won't help Romney's opponents, but it could harm him in the general.

Joe - fair enough, I'll agree. I can also see that moderates are shrinking because they see little difference between R's and D's on some issues. So they evaluate a few of their most important issues and then vote for the party that they most identify with.

Ed .. I think we know what Mitt does with a corporation. It's called rape, pillage and loot. As described by some, the American Dream.

Skip Nicholson post 1.41... I appreciate your enthusiasm because like Newt, I abhor Romney. First, your exhuberance in thinking the GOP has laid down and died, in my opinion, is a little overstated. This is an election year and in my years of watching politics, I've seen some pretty interesting comebacks and changes in the call to arms in past elections.

Now I have a question for you based on your own words. You said that when Newt opens a can of whup-ass he opens the big industrial size can. Let's say Newt happens to win the nomination... it can still happen... Do you think he'll open several industrial size cans and pour it all over Obama? You have to admit, Obama is a pretty big target and there's a lot of whup-ass to be had considering Obama's record.

You know Newt will focus in on ALL of Obama's failure... and considering that there are still quite a few Reagan loving conservatives out here, Newt does stand a good chance now that we've passed the initial wacky states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

I know that the liberals are hoping for a candidate like Romney because he is the least likley to win over Obama because Romney isn't supported very well by conservatives. He's unexciting, has plenty of baggage and is nothing but a plastic person. Newt on the other hand is probably the liberals greatest fear... even though they won't admit it.... I believe pooh pooh is the correct term.

You should take your very words into consideration if Newt wins. They might come back to haunt you.

TO: Alan, NJ who wrote:

"The current Administration has done enough that I am open to listening to Romney..."

Go ahead and try. If you ask Romeny 2 questions, he'll give you 4 different answers, then come back and give you 4 more.

Obama / Biden 2012

Dennis,

I hope he submits his ideas on reducing the size of government, but I believe it is only for campaign purposes. I have been saying for over a year that there are programs that should be consolidated which would cut waste, fraud and overlapping. All one needs to do is look at the GAO Report from March 2011 and then expand.

My question was why didn't Obama push this agenda in his first year instead of wasting all that time on a health care bill that helped split the American people? Another question, I believe, I heard Obama say that he wanted to make the SBA a Cabinet post, doesn't seem like that is consolidating but expanding the executive branches authority.

Also since he is all for consolidating and reducing government, why did he feel compelled to start a new consumer protection agency when there are already six or seven agencies who currently have oversight responsibilities over the banks, lender, etc., that he supposedly rails against.

American Girl... That's funny, and quite true. And people wonder why I can't stand Romney along with about a billion other conservatives...

Romney's entire candidacy is based on his business background and so-called "job creation" record. When voters learn than Mitt made his fortune firing people, and that he "liked" it, they are going to have serious second thoughts about whether Mitt is qualified to lead the American economy.

This is why I hate liberals. The above quote is such a lie and mis-characterization it isn't even fit for print.

Actual Quote:

Romney was speaking to an audience about health care and the necessity of being able to select one’s own insurance company. His complete quote went as follows:

“I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means that if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them. I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. You know, if someone doesn’t give me the good service I need, I want to say, ‘You know, I’m going to go get somebody else to provide that service to me.’ ”

Quit reading short headlines and listening to out of context campaign ads, and make a real effort to be informed on what you are talking about!

Romney's Bain record may not be the 100,000 created jobs he suggests, but he does the same thing Obama does to get his number and thats count his gains and saves, and doesn't minus any off his loses. Overall Bain invested in thousands of companies some that went on to hire and expand and others that failed, so it's hard to give a specific number but it is safe to say there was a net gain.

To those making reference to Obama's plan to "shrink" government and being in support of it: you do realize that "shrinking" and "consolidating" are two very different things, right? It's nothing more than a smokescreen; turning 5 ineffective bureaus into one giant ineffective bureau is just a feeble attempt at appeasing the American people on paper and taking for granted our ability to see between the lines.

I fine all of you on this news panel a bunch of hypcrites, NEWS FLASH!!!!!! Obama used a another Bain Organization to thin the herd to GM and some dealership to lay off and close down. So you tell me people why is it ok for OBAMA and not Mitt? Oh thats right I get it because Obama is Liberal Left and Mitt is a GOP . YEA A DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!Look it up morons.

The saying used to be "When pigs fly."

But the new "in" expression is "When Corporations Fart!"

I'll vote GOP when corporations fart!

Obama/Biden 2012

Rove tells Romney to speak of Bain Capital and the boy jumps. There's no substance to Romney and he's loading down with the SuperPac money. The banksters are throwing the heavy cash at Romney.

Go ahead and try. If you ask Romeny 2 questions, he'll give you 4 different answers, then come back and give you 4 more.

That's because he is trying to be all things to all people right now. He is trying to placate the right without losing the center. Once the primaries are over he will be a pretty strong centrist candidate. Seriously, if the left attack him on social issues like the moderators in the ABC debate then they will lose.

When you make an attack like this I can immediately give numerous examples of where the current President has flip-flopped, pro-forma sessions and the debt ceiling being the latest. All politicians with any history are guilty. This was an advantage candidate Obama had over President Obama.

However, as I said I want hear their proposals for the country. I wouldn't describe myself as conservative but I am fiscally responsible. I want to hear how the President intends to fund SS and Medicare (I won't say save) because his current proposal of the "rich paying a little more" is fiscally ridiculous. The rich would have to pay a lot more, and the middle class would have to kick in as well. If the Democrats want to maintain the current level of entitlements I want to hear their plan to pay for it. If the Republicans want to cut entitlements I want to hear where and by how much AND will the saving go to deficit reduction and not tax cuts.

I know I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.....

First, let's admit it, Romney did nothing wrong. Unfortunately, for Mitt, the question in November is going to be is this the kind of man you want for President. When it comes time to show compassion for people or make a buck, what will he decide? It is one thing to to make money from investments, it is quite another to destroy a company and peoples lives for profit.

Dennis,

Obama is scrabbling!! Interesting that he is listening to all the people, especially Republicans that want to down size the government.

Leader he is NOT!! Lots of Show not much action, now all of a sudden he's going to try to lead?? He needs more training back in Chicago, where he will be in 11 months!!!

You liberals crack me up. Bain invested in companies that were going bankrupt or failing. The jobs that were lost under Bain would have been lost along without many, many more had Bain not invested in those companies. Bain was a lifeline for those companies.

Mitt's comments of liking to fire people were taken completely out of context. He was saying that he likes having the oppurtunity of being able to "fire" services that are underperforming by not using them and being able to take his business else. This a benefit of capitalism.

So how would Romney "create jobs" if he were elected President, if it's not by investing money in failing companies?

First off the Government lost money on investing in the automakers. The tax payers will never be fully repaid. It's not the Government's job to invest in companies and pick the winners are losers. The only way the Government can truly create jobs is through adopting policies that are business friendly. The Government has never turned a profit, hence their looting of our pay checks so why in the hell would you want them investing your money?

Sorry piegan, more lies. Perhaps you should consult your messiah before posting.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/13/cnbc_retracts_story_on_gm_obama_bain

Actual Quote:

Romney was speaking to an audience about health care and the necessity of being able to select one’s own insurance company. His complete quote went as follows:

“I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means that if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them. I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. You know, if someone doesn’t give me the good service I need, I want to say, ‘You know, I’m going to go get somebody else to provide that service to me.’ ”

But let's dig in a little on that quote. Why would a health insurance company's main focus be on keeping their policy holders healthy? Obviously, they can raise premiums if the insurance claims exceed the premiums. They could also drop coverage (or not cover a pre-existing condition) for someone with high claims (that is, until Obamacare was enacted). With premiums going up 20% a year, the insurance carriers didn't appear to be too concerned about concentrating on a "healthy" policy holder. Sure, by having less claims, the insurance company can make the same as raising premiums, but the fact is, much of the higher cost with health insurance is because of the huge increases in prescriptions and their cost. Health insurance carriers are now devoting more effort to keeping policy holders healthy, even asking the participants to tell them if they have a chronic condition, but they could also be doing this to set premium rates higher more quickly, before the claims rise (and because of Obamacare limiting the use of refusing coverage to someone).

You may want to "fire" your insurance carrier, but there's a limited supply of health insurance companies. It's easy to say you'll move on to another, but, like most insurance products, the premiums are fairly standard. For those that want further competition in the insurance market, are you going to risk sending your premiums to Acme insurance company, hoping they have the cash reserves to pay your claim when you need it? Also, most high cost health procedures happen in an emergency; are you in a position to shop around for insurance when you've just had a heart attack, or a car accident? What's happened in my work (and my spouse) is that companies with group policies are changing insurance carriers more often, searching for slightly lower "teaser-rates" to hook the company in for a year, then making it up the second year (and also changing co-pays - especially for prescriptions). The problem is, we are running out of carriers and eventually you'll pay higher premiums.

It's very easy to say we'll shop around, and fire someone - than to actually do it.

Carefull Nancy, that is not entirely true. As far as the liking to fire people, the statement was kind of out of context. Your (and Flip Flop Mitt's) problem is the campaign ad will show people that Bain did fire and Romney saying over and over I kinda like to fire people. That will not be out of context. It will show that Flip Flop Mitt is out of touch.

Does it seem strange to anyone that Mitt Romney seems to be the exact thing those on the right claim to dislike about President Obama? An elitist.

Oh, and it's interesting how many people are defending Romney's out of context comment about how he likes to fire people, yet don't seem to mind when others on the right do the same thing to President Obama (57 states, Americans are the enemy, Americans are lazy). It annoyed me a little to see the often repeated comments attributed to Obama. It seems strange the same group of people suddenly are against using comments out of context.

Nancy, the government is not in the business of making a profit, nor should they be!

As far as the liking to fire people, the statement was kind of out of context.

Kind of out of context. It's completely out of context. When the article only quotes "I like being able to fire people" there is no context. The ability to fire underperforming people, companies, or services is the beautiful thing about capitalism. If that ability is stripped you remove the a person's, company's or service's incentive to put forth a quality effort. You'd be stuck with people that didn't give a damn because they realize you have no other options.

yet don't seem to mind when others on the right do the same thing to President Obama (57 states, Americans are the enemy, Americans are lazy).

How does one take Barry stating that we have 57 states out of context? How does one take Barry calling corpsman, corpsemen? You can't because those are the idiotic misteps he's made regardless of context. How does one take Barry's anti-American rants out of context? You can't because thats how he truly feels.

Nancy, the government is not in the business of making a profit, nor should they be!

So they lose money on USPS and Amtrak purposely? Not to mention GM and Chrysler? I'd be estatic if those entities ran at cost rather than being charity cases. Regardless, you're proving my point, I don't want the Government investing in companies like the comment above that I quoted suggested.

You can't because those are the idiotic misteps he's made regardless of context. How does one take Barry's anti-American rants out of context? You can't because thats how he truly feels.

When someone feels as strongly as you obviously do, there isn't any middle ground to discuss.

So they lose money on USPS and Amtrak purposely

Where is your proof that these entities loose money purposely? Further, you do understand that the Postal Service is self funded, not tax payer funded. If USPS is such a bad example of a government run organization, why is it they manage to process mail at a lower cost than any of their competitors? As to Amtrak, if private business does not want to be in the business, that leaves it to the government to run.

I think the photograph of Romney and his colleagues with money stuffed in their pockets, shirt sleeves, and everywhere else will really come to haunt him.

Sorry Nancy, you only get kind of out of context. When you buy a company, walk in and fire every employee, I can only believe you enjoy what you are doing. Sorry, there is no way to sugar coat that.

What I find so very entertaining about the GOP nomination process at this time is that Newt, Perry and even caribou barbie are going for the jugular on Romney saying things like "he's a vulture capitalist", "Romney's part of the one percenters", "he enjoys giving pink slips to his workers", "Romney makes huge profits destroying American companies" and calling him a Gordon Gecko. These are his own conservative buddies. Meanwhile high ranking republicans like limbaugh and karl rove are flipping out trying to do damage control telling them "what the hell are you guys doing?? Romney's gonna be our guy and you guys are in his party and you're exposing him for what he really is!!" Rush even went as far as to say that and I quote "these people(newt, perry, palin) are acting like the polar opposites of conservatives". So does that mean they're are acting like liberals?????? Very entertaining - keep up the good work!

Perry and newt are liberals.We now know their true colors. We have had liberals in the white house since Reagan and now the us is on the verge of bankruptcy and massive government control. I like these comments about how romney fired people. I guess in liberal la la land you bail them and grow the government even larger. Fiscal responsibility is a an ancient greek word to these yahoos.

Romney, in my mind is the best example of a lazy capitalist. Companies like BAIN would simply leverage companies up based on their assets, Cut Payroll, outsource and take enormous fees. If the Company couldn't survive the debt load they would simply sell off assets, fire employees and raid the insured pension.

There was an Article several years ago during the acquisition boom that talked about these assets that would get sold in liquidation and most ended up worthless. Meaning the last purchaser would end up holding the bag, and often times would claim a lofty insurance settlement. By the time it went ring around the Wall Street Rosy, BAIN and company were free and clear making millions for doing nothing really.

As a patriot capitalist you also have a responsibility to your Country, period. Wall Street now hides behind this Global Markets buzz word, which is short for, make money first, Country second.

We are paying the price for that now and No President can fix that quick, we don't have the proper trade deals in place and therefor we can't Manufacture anything competitively. We need trade with the world, we need to produce meaningful things, otherwise we are dead. We can't survive consuming and living off a Wall Street concocted economy. FACT.

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

We have a Democratic President that expresses a desire to shrink Government but will the Republicans and Tea Party members of Congress grant this President the fast-track authority? Will this become yet another example of Republicans voting against their own ideals just to not allow any small victory for this President?

Yes Dennis,

The Republicans are on a race to the bottom. To those idiots failure equates winning.

Personally I want Newt, Perry and Paul to keep their messages going and in the end if Romney gets the nomination, people will see Romney trip up big time over Bain Capital.

Let it be clear that a lot of his money came from robbing the unsuspecting employees of companies he loved to "fire".

" far-left terrorists and anti-white, anti-Semitic America haters,"

Where is your facts? Just because you say something doesn't make it true. I think you are nothing more than a bomb thrower, that doesn't know what you are talking about. .

He decisively won the New Hampshire primary and heads into South Carolina and beyond full with momentum

I think it's weird New Hampshire gets to pick the Republican nominee, especially because Romney has a house there and was governor of a neighboring state. I suppose, if Romney had failed miserably in NH, that would have ended his run, but I don't get why a "decisive" win in one friendly state ensures his nomination. (Me and phine are puzzled by this.)

Michael1969

Bev "Resist We Much",

Everytime I read one of your threads, I exhale a sigh of relief that we're not of the same political party.

Michael,

First of all, I am enormously offended by your avatar.

You do realize people from all over the world read this forum that don't post? For you to speak of your trite disapproval about my political support to our President does not conform with true patriotism.

No doubt the people reading your comment consider it to be a JOKE.

Secondly, I thank the gods you and I do not share the same space. However, I will continue to send positive vibrations and hope into the universe for your karma to be increasingly more positive so you can gravitate to what is right in this universe; particularly this country.

Job1 -- Quick! Before your lunch break is over and you have to hurry off to Algebra class, google William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Weather Underground, Brinks truck robbery, "chickens coming home to roost", Waverly Brown, conspiracy theories....."

Funny that you would call ME the "bomb thrower".

Holy Crap! Beverly was actually coherent through an entire post! With NO "Bevisms!" We'll forget about the remark about the "Clown Posy" further up.

Tell us Bev. What offends you about Obama painted up like The Joker? Were you offended by pix of Bush being doctored up to make him look like a monkey? Of course not. Hypocrite much?

Gee, Damage123, now you've destroyed my dreams of becoming President because I too have had a nutty minister who occasionally said things I disagreed with, and one of my co-workers turned out to have a criminal past! Now my hopes of a career in public service are dashed. Woe is me.

Well Amy. If you view bombing the Capitol, killing police, advocating the overthrow of democracy and capitalism, making hateful statements about Jews and Whites, praising 9/11 and being an all-round traitor as...saying "nutty" things and having a "criminal past", then you shouldn't even be elected as dogcatcher. In fact, you should be scorned, ridiculed and shunned at every turn. You could always be a community organizer though.

Huntsman gets big welcome in SC, The rest get poor reception !!!!!!!!!

What Republican supporters need to realize is, making money is not synonomous with job creation. Typically in job creation mode you are expensing more than you are generating. You need to fund growth.

Mitt bought companies, raided overfunded pensions, pushed health care costs onto the employees, then either sold the companies or shut them down and sold off the assets.

Explain to me how that is job creation.

Damage,

These things you site have nothing to do with President Obama. Please stop throwing bombs of non-facts. You sound to much like that Rush fellow, or as he is known as the "drugter."

Perhaps you could take some history and civics classes at your local community college. The classes aren't that expensive and they could help open your eyes to the world around you.

Amy, it wasn't just the decisive win in New Hampshire. It was that combined with the win in Iowa, more money than any other campaign, and establishment backing.

If Romney was the establishment candidate with the most money, and lost both Iowa and New Hampshire, he would still go on, though arguably not as the front runner heading into South Carolina (but still as a force to be reckoned with, giving the transition from retail to TV time campaigning that's about to take place).

Paul M in Wbridge

Thanks for responding to my question. But, Romney's "win" in Iowa was by nine votes. If anyone wins a general election by nine votes, there is an immediate re-count. I wouldn't call Romney's win in Iowa "decisive."

Of course, Santorum did not have a great showing in NH, but surely he would do better in the South.

I guess it's true Romney will get the nomination, because of all the establishment and conservative endorsements he's getting, like Nikki Haley's and the Bushs'. I just think it's odd that NH is basically choosing the Republican candidate for the whole Party. But, what do I know?

Damage123

Gee, you just described the political rantings of some of my Republican relatives! Now I'm really not qualified to be President, I've had Thanksgiving dinner with some of these wing nuts!

Newsflash: not all conservatives are "pro-Israel." Have you ever listened to real, live Libertarians talk about their hatred of the U.S. government? Maybe you don't live in a rural state, I do, and anti-government militia groups (who vote Republican) are real. If you want to hear some crazy rhetoric, just dial up right-wing talk radio, or, better yet, google Zombie Apocalypse. Republicans really shouldn't throw stones at Democrats when it comes to nutty anti-Zionist, whackos.

I did not like him before this article and I dislike him even more after his Spanish speaking commercials. I feel he will be more inclined to bypass illegal immigration in favor of illegal votes. His family has run across the border when ever there is was a major issue. I could name seven other character traits I have with him but it would only serve to frustrate me more thinking this man could be president. If it comes to him or Obama, unfortunately, I dislike Romney the man more. So as MSN forces Romney down our throats, I hope they know many will not vote for Obama, but will vote against Romney.

First of all, I am enormously offended by your avatar.

You do realize people from all over the world read this forum that don't post? For you to speak of your trite disapproval about my political support to our President does not conform with true patriotism.

Okay Bev. You worship the ground Fiesty walks on, but her avatar is okay?????

When I read your posts I personally am reminded of two things: The Pied Piper and Jim Jones. You are on here daily with posts praising Obama and hammering republicans and now you wish to take exception to someone doing this to you?

I am afraid you took a walk some at some point and have yet to return!

TO: Damage123 who wrote:

"Plea[s]e Bev. Even Hussein himself only claims to be the FOURTH greatest president of all time. Bain Capital will turn out to be nothing compared to all the job losses ... Romney can overcome ... the crap you people are getting all excited about."

So, what are you saying, that you think Republicans can LIE their way into the White House?

How are you going to lie to those of us who where there and saw Bush's Terrorist Friend who Bush grew up with, Osama Bin Laden, not only attack us but then call for the economic collapse of the United States, which also took place under Bush's watch?

There are millions of us who DON'T have amnesia and know EXACTLY who did what, so trying to lie about the current President is NOT going to help Romney the Job Cremator!

Obama / Biden 2012

Beverly - you've probably left the scene to go watch Days of our Lives, or some other useless program on TV but... Romney has only squeeked by in 2 primaries, not 3. We haven't reached January 21 yet... Not sure how much speed you are taking, but today's only the 13th.

With what Newt is doing to Romney, I don't see Romney getting much more than he already has. Remember that in 2008, Huckabee was leading the pack coming out of New Hampshire and then dropped like a rock. Maybe you don't remember because you were probably drooling all over Obama's shoes back then and then licking it off.

If I were you, I'd not count on Romney going much further at all, even though I know you were hoping he would win, so Obama could beat him. I'm afraid Obama will have a much greater challenge than Romney to face... A person who I believe will knock Obama off his high horse.

amy -- You said: I think it's weird New Hampshire gets to pick the Republican nominee, especially because Romney has a house there and was governor of a neighboring state. I suppose, if Romney had failed miserably in NH, that would have ended his run, but I don't get why a "decisive" win in one friendly state ensures his nomination. (Me and phine are puzzled by this.)

you make it sound like the NH primary was staged to give romney a big win. it has had a "first in the nation" primary status for sometime so not a conspiracy.

i agree, not sure why iowa and NH have this much impact but they have for many years. how was hillary able to defeat the President in the primary 4 years ago -- was it simply because it was a friendly state to a NY resident?

james-1937467

Sorry I wasn't more articulate. I know the NH primary has always been first. I just find it funny all the political pundits act like the nomination is now in the bag for Romney, when he barely won Iowa, and his support in NH was kind of a given, considering his personal ties. I'm pretty sure many Republicans, especially in the South, don't support him. I guess South Carolina's primary will determine if he is the nominee.

Beverly in Chicago

This the worst time for Mitt in history. It will be unprecented. Mitt will go down in history as the 1st Presidential candidate to win 3 primaries, gain the domination, and lose to one of the best Presidents in the history of our great country

Obama Biden 2012

Even McCain praised Obama! (Was it done mistakenly...or was it a Freudian slip? You be the judge.)

http://youtu.be/34phsb4e6Eg

We, the enlightened ones, should not allow ourselves to become complacent about the weakness of Mitt Romney's candidacy. Remember that Richie Rich Romney and his friends are going to do anything they can--lie mostly--to put Republicans back in power.

American Girl, "Romney the Job Cremator"...I love it!

Way to Go Jody. I love you weekly recaps.

Well done.

Ditto what Job1 said!

It's going up on my Facebook page (with credit of Jody, IA) of course! ☺

You really need to re-post this on the Week Ahead!

Excellente,Jody

Your weekend reviews are always superb.

Willard is not playing a role like Micheal Douglass did in the movie Wall Street. Mitt is a corporate raider and loves FIRING people.

I am so happy to see Newt's Karma come back around, ROFL. I can't think of any other conning hypocrite on this planet who deserves the fickle finger of fate that Newt Gingrich.

I saw that movie 2x when it came out in the 80s. My husband used to say pay close attention to movies because they are marketing future products.

Jody,

John McCain said "I am confident with the leadership and backing of the American people, President Obama will turn the country around." Slip of the tongue or inadvertent truth telling, Senator McCain? My $$'s on the latter.

My money, too. I don't think it was a slip of the tongue. It's what he really thinks.

Laura Bush told an audience that she and George urged Jeb to jump into the presidential race. Guess Mrs. Bush was given more credit for smarts than warranted

Yeah, no kidding. It's also a demonstration of the bubble they live in. And that bubble is going to burst on Romney--did you see Rachel Maddow last night? The comparison between Poppy Bush and Romney having no clue about how a bad economy hits the average American was spot on.

Great Wrap as always, Jody!

Good Morning Bev,

It's a bit scary. My hubby said the exact same thing! (cue the Twilight Zone music)

Once again another awesome weekly wrap up. Thanks.

Thank you. The right just keeps giving me such great material to work with. Now I know how Saturday Night Live feels every week during election season when skits must be left on the cutting room floor.

Yes, Jack, I saw Rachel last night, great segment. Even Chris Matthews had some terrific clips of Romney which point to the same flaws. As Ron Reagan said, "Obama's gonna kick his butt" in a debate.

GM announced that for the first time in years, GM is once again #1 in world-wide
sales....Crickets, I hear crickets!

You may hear crickets, but all I hear is the sound of one hand clapping. You might try adding some balance to your consistently biased spin by pointing out that GM stock has fallen from $38.27/share one year ago to around $24.00 today. And then you might point out how that steep decline has led the Treasury Department to increase its estimates of how much the taxpayer stands to lose on the GM bailout. Then you might point out how Toyota – the leader in worldwide sales in recent years – was severely impacted by the tsunami, but stands to regain its perch now that it has recovered.

But since balance is not your forte, as a public service I provided it for you.

George Stephanopolis informed Mitt that he gave two different answers to the same question--imagine that!

Just keeping it real. Mitwit thinks we don't listen and are stupid. Iguess that's what happens when you're born with a silver foot in your mouth.

Jody:

Didn't get a chance to say thanks for last week's wrap. Out of town Friday, so it was a Saturday first read. Always great, just as this week's is.

For people who are constantly updating their dictionaries. People are no longer "laid off". They are creatively destroyed.

Jody,

Nice summary and commentary, as always.

rlh

Beverly, my sentiments exactly about Newt. What's beyond me is why Gingrich and the others seem so surprised that their past haunts them and more baffled that what they have done as "just politics" eventually gets thrown back at them.

Kudo's to you again Jody......You should send this out to ALL the newspapers in the US for their weekend editions especially the NY Times and Wall St Journal....I'm sure it would open a lot of people's eyes.

Bill Fairfax, it's a weekly wrap not an in-depth analysis. It's also the truth, I didn't make up those things the GOP said and did; plus I enjoying poking a "biased" stick at their absurdity as much as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart do (I make no claim to be as good as they are).

P.S. I'm a leftie, liberal, tree-hugging democrat, if you want a conservative version--you are welcome to spend the hours I do to write your own.

phinephancy-4252115

Good Morning Bev,

It's a bit scary. My hubby said the exact same thing! (cue the Twilight Zone music)

Happy Friday to you phine

LOL the Twiglht Zone

Oh yea, thanks for sending Chicago all this snow; just what we need. But, I'd rather have it then those corporate raiders coming to your state to brain wash the snowbirds and retired villagers.

Governor Daniels and the Indiana GOP State Legislature started the new session right where it left off by trying to ram a right to work law through the system before voters realize it. Democrats are slowing the GOP down by not providing a quorum.

And how does this differ from the tactics used by Republicans in the US Senate?

JoJo & GM .... typical JoJo, always turning a silk purse into a sows ear.

Paul S, NY NY, what a nice thing to say, thank you. When I read comments such as yours, it always comes as a surprise that others see my attempt as worthy for publication beyond FR.

Alan, there is a difference, democrats are not trying to prevent a debate on the issue but merely prevent the GOP from their planned to get it done in one week without any notice to the public or input from the public. Slowing things down is not the same as the total obstructionism of the federal GOP Senators who block, delay and deny even legislation they like.

Bev,

'Tis a mean and cold wish you send to me girl! (Said in my best Irish accent) If it makes you feel any better it will be in the upper 30's at night this weekend and only in the upper 50's and low 60's this weekend. Being a Florida wimp I have all the warm, fuzzy clothes out!

You all need to stop admitting that you watch Keanu Maddow. It makes you sound a little hypocritical to accuse people of getting all their info from a tv network or radio show, then you turn around and admit you get your info from a left-wing hack on a channel that nobody watches because they know it's all bull****.

Jody- You spend "HOURS" writing that crap? LOL!!!!!!!!

Jody, Iowa

Beverly, my sentiments exactly about Newt. What's beyond me is why Gingrich and the others seem so surprised that their past haunts them and more baffled that what they have done as "just politics" eventually gets thrown back at them.

Jody,

That's because people of Newt's persuasion are so arrogant and disdainful that they thought the average person would be so ignorant to the GOP'S deception. Ha Ha, the brilliant ones never thought about the one axiom of the universe, either philosophically or scientifically. That is for every action there is an reaction. You'd think that they would have been more positive in their actions toward the people of this country; since they claim to be so brilliant and spiritually correct .

Unmistakeably, this is way my support the community organizer does not waver because I can see his actions are for the people of this country and the world.

President Obama is one of the best Presidents of our country.he is compassionate humble and visionary. I saw this when he put up with all that crap from the RepubliCONS because he wanted US to be the United States not the divide states.

This time I can see from his demeanor and body language he is mad and ain't gonna take it more. Kudos

My great grandson told me he was Iowa New Year's Eve and he liked it.

Damage123, yep, it takes a lot of time to read news, watch the news, suffer through two GOP debates--knowing you hate it so much provides incentive to keep to the task of annoying you and your friends.

Jody, Iowa: It's also the truth,

Didn't know Jody had cornered the market on the truth.

No Jody, it's more the selective truth, which in essence is just propaganda, just like your GM blurb. You're so busy and trying so very hard to prop up Obama, you completely miss the point of what ever propaganda you're trying to put out.

Jody, Iowa: if you want a conservative version--you are welcome to spend the hours I do to write your own.

You're posting your talking points on a public blog. You need to get a thicker skin when others are critical of it.

Jody,

In a word, Outstanding!

x

it's a weekly wrap not an in-depth analysis

At least you're right about that. An honest analysis would present the full story -- something you never do in your weekly spins down Fantasy Lane.

Phine-

What would your granddaughter say about the high level of discourse on the board today?

as much as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart do (I make no claim to be as good as they are).

Jody - I beg to differ .. you are as clever as any of their staff writers (and they are good). Would love to see you with a spot on either of their shows. Like you always say, you just can't make this stuff up.

Jody,

Damage: Jody- You spend "HOURS" writing that crap? LOL!!!!!!!!

Smiff: Didn't know Jody had cornered the market on the truth.

Wm. Fairfax: An honest analysis would present the full story -- something you never do in your weekly spins.

Sounds like "attack the messenger" time.

Those who can do, do. Those who can't do, ridicule.

dangerfield,

Trust me when I say, I plan on being sure the computer is off, unplugged (maybe hidden in the closet) before her next visit! I, personally, though am trying! I might fail (being human) now and then, but hopefully all my opinions are respectful to all.

Jody:

You forgot something when you wrote:

"Damage123, yep, it takes a lot of time to read news, watch the news, suffer through two GOP debates--knowing you hate it so much provides incentive to keep to the task of annoying you and your friends."

You also have to take the time to comprehend and analyze. Obviously, your clueless stalkers - I include Her Vacuousness Smiffy - have no need of such subtleties.

JoJo ... from our esteemed Conservative Prime Minister

Wednesday, April 21, 2010 | 4:59 PM ET

CBC News

Lending billions of dollars to General Motors to help it avoid bankruptcy in 2009 was the right decision and saved jobs, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday.

"Less than a year ago, in the eye of a global economic storm, our government acted quickly and responsibly to protect Canadian jobs,” Harper said in a statement.

The automaker announced earlier in the day that is has repaid $1.4 billion in loans it received from the Canadian and Ontario governments. GM has also paid back $6.7 billion in loans it received from the U.S. government.

"This was not a decision we took lightly," said federal Industry Minister Tony Clement.

"But, at the end of the day, we knew that if we did not participate, what was at risk was not just the GM jobs but all the other parts manufacturers and other industries that go into having an auto sector in this country, and that has been estimated to be over 400,000 jobs that were at risk.

istv: JoJo & GM .... typical JoJo, always turning a silk purse into a sows ear.

I'm sorry the entire truth bothers you istv. Maybe go back into Jody's enclosed world where you hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see, no critical thinking required. It seems to work for Jody.

David Walker: You also have to take the time to comprehend and analyze. Obviously, your clueless stalkers - I include Her Vacuousness Smiffy - have no need of such subtleties.

Exactly Mr. Walker. And that's exactly what is being added to Jody's story time. It is fact you on the Left that have selective "analysis" of daily events. Looking a little more critically at Jody's blurbs we find holes that semi's can drive through. It's folks like you Mr. Walker with the automatic "hosanna's" for Jody propaganda that are the fools Mr. Walker.

JoJo ....

Canada is larger territorially than the United State ... a simple statement and true.

GM is once again the largest auto maker in the world by sales ... a simple statement and true.

That the US economy or Toyota's profits exceed either Canada's economy or GM's profits does not affect the above two statements.

Great work Jody!! Ignore the stone throwers above. It's the best these troglodytes have to offer. Nary an idea among all of them.

P.S. I'm a leftie, liberal, tree-hugging democrat, if you want a conservative version--you are welcome to spend the hours I do to write your own.

Touche' Jody! Now put that in your pipe and smoke it, Bill!

Thanks to all my cheerers and defenders; you've made my day brighter.

While I won't address each individual naysayer directly any more today, Bill Fairfax, you never fail to provide the kind of twisted logic that I write about in this weekly post. In you and the other naysayers world, it is only an honest analysis IF it meets your view. I beg to differ because I do NOT make up what the GOPers say and my added pokes are more honest than what FOX, Limbaugh or Beck does with comments from President Obama and democrats. In fact, my version at least posts and often quotes what the republicans actually said and did. If you don't like the idea that in my opinion, the GOPers are narrow-minded and short-sighted reactionaries who have not had a new idea in 30 years and those old ideas were proved a BIG failure twice--too bad, so sad. I guess you didn't like my compliment for Jon Huntsman speaking the truth; I have always been quick to note good things republicans say and do--it isn't my fault that it's rare. Enjoy your weekend conservatives, and may a sense of humor find its way into your gray and dreary world. I wish you that sincerely.

it is only an honest analysis IF it meets your view.

Wrong again dear, it's only an honest analysis if it presents the full story from an objective perspective -- something you NEVER do. Sorry if the truth hurts.

Oh, and if you want to take issue with anything I have to say on the board, have at it. But don't crap on me because of what Rush or Beck or anyone else has to say -- take up your beef with them.

Ideologyspoils, thank you for posting the Canadian Prime Minister's comments from 2010. It was not a decision President Obama took lightly either. The GM loans here did not just affect the USA, it affected Canada and other foreign GM manufacturing facilities, other country's jobs.

Bill, it seems the truth hurts you a great deal. I stand by my comment that the only time you think an analysis or opinion is truthful is IF it meets your personal view. I also wish that you, and the other naysayers, find a sense of humor. There's truth among the liberal-leaning bias that only humor allows one to see. I do not write this for you, Bill; I write it for everyone who is looking for a more light-hearted look at the week that was. Have a nice day, Bill.

Jody, thanks for the wrap-up.

It is still amazing how the GOP/TP don't want to hear anything positive about jobs or mfg in the country! 22 months of job growth, UE down, the turnaround of auto industry, elimination of terrorists are just a few of many things, they disparage, tear down, seek ways to put a negative spin on...purely because of hating Mr. Obama. And GOP/TP are the ones who call themselves FOR America, her growth and prosperity. Yet, they sure don't cheer for America when positive things occur! They have no positive energy for her! They prefer to kick her when she is down and keep her there until the Grand OLD Party with the same OLD tired tricks gets back into power. Their comments and actions prove once again, that hatred of a man, trumps their love of our country.

Obama/Biden 2012!

Jody,

Enjoy your weekend conservatives, and may a sense of humor find its way into your gray and dreary world.

We've all remarked upon this at one time or another. For that reason alone I wouldn't want to be a conservative. Money seems to be about the only thing that gives them a modicum of happiness.

Jack:

"We've all remarked upon this at one time or another. For that reason alone I wouldn't want to be a conservative. Money seems to be about the only thing that gives them a modicum of happiness."

That's why those people are unhappy. They don't have money. They're poseurs - not conservatives - poseurs.

Gotta fire up the barbecue. I think I'll have some Alaska Salmon drenched in garlic butter and filets now. Then I'm off for the lake with the wife so we can drink our pricey wine on our houseboat. Need to relax. It's so hard being a conservative success story, you know.

For that reason alone I wouldn't want to be a conservative. Money seems to be about the only thing that gives them a modicum of happiness

Funny because the only thing that seems to make liberals happy is taking someone else's money. I could never be a liberal for I am not a theif and I would rather earn my own money than take it from another. I would rather be independent than be beholden to another. I would rather take responsibility for my own actions than make someone else a scapegoat for my ineptitude. Those are reasons why I am a conservative.

David,

I've been too busy at work and just checked in. That was so funny! And then it got funnier.

Take a look at Nancy's Red Diaper Doper Baby below your post. So, she's a doper? Or the baby's a doper? And there's something in the diaper? (And there's something Red, which, as we know, is a code name for a Communist!) Somebody's been smoking something!

Yeah, Nancy, we're just grabbin' other people's money here and there, laying back on our houseboats and chugging wine and doing nuttin'. Why the hell should we work and take responsibility for our actions or be independent when there's all that money out there just for the takin'? Much easier to find scapegoats because we're so inept. You're a scream, girl!

LOL

"I have always been quick to note good things that republicans say and do -- it isnt my fault it's rare."

Priceless!

Laura Bush told an audience that she and George urged Jeb to jump into the presidential race. Guess Mrs. Bush was given more credit for smarts than warranted because this country, except for some republicans, is in no way ready or willing to put another Bush in the White House even if his name isn't George.

Actually, I never had much faith in Mrs. Bush's intellect. Just look at who she married.

I wonder if Jeb ever does decide to jump, if Dubbya will endorse him and campaign for him? That would be the kiss of death, for sure.

the GOPers are narrow-minded and short-sighted reactionaries who have not had a new idea in 30 years and those old ideas were proved a BIG failure twice--too bad, so sad.

Thanks, Jody. That's what it comes down to in the end.

Conservatives are closed-minded, fear-driven dinosaurs. If their ideas worked, I'd be a supporter. But they have been proven not to work, except to enrich the wealthy. Why do they cling so steadfastly to failed ideologies?

Government is an art, not a science. Different methods are needed for different times and changing economic conditions. To refuse to try another way is short-sighted at best, and potentially disastrous for this country.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Hi phinephancy,

That’s a great point. Romney doesn’t like to be pressured, and he most likely is crying to the powers of the GOP, to make the others running to leave him alone. If he Romney gets the nomination, he hasn’t seen anything yet, as far as attacks. President Obama will eat his lunch.

Phine,

Wishful thinking on your part.:0)

You will not be able to duck the GOP circus that is about to descend on Florida.

You really need to book that vacation and get out of town. Or at least take your phone off the hook and turn off the television .

I am sure Jody can give you some good survival tips.

Job1,

I don't see the DNC following the rules that the GOP dictate come fall, do you? LOL

Northstar,

I'm busted. Trying to keep the circus out of my state. Drat. Maybe Jody can print up a survival guide to those of us getting ready to face the "big show" coming to a state near you!

Job1,

Good point about Romney (pressured).

Look at his eyes when someone calls him out.

phinephancy, they are a puzzle that's for sure. Yesterday, I saw a clip of Rick Perry talking to SC voters about "regulating" the private equity firms like Bain Capital which tells me that even the GOP doesn't always believe their own rhetoric on de-regulation makes sense.

Jody,

They do make one's spin! Arte Johnson on Laugh-In used to say "VERY INTERESTING", think today he would say "VERY CONFUSING".

Phancy, maybe I can shed a little light on the republican dilemma. Within the party, there are factions. For the most part, they are diametrically opposed. There are conservative republicans and liberal republicans. While most democrats view republicans as conservative, it simply isn't true. The inner turmoil of the republican party falls upon ideological lines. The tea party is, for the most part very conservative. The TP has caused a rift within the party. That doesn't mean the republican party will lay down though. There are still enough Reagan conservatives left to send a vote towards a conservative candidate. This election there is only 2 real conservatives running. Bachman was mostly conservative, but couldn't handle the pressure and she broke. Newt is a Regan conservative, but carries baggage. Santorum is not a true conservative and neither is Romney. Huntsman is a conservative, but also has some liberal tendencies. Forget Paul, he's in outerspace. He's not a republican, he's a libertarian.

Contrast that mix with the democrats. They are about 80-90% liberal/progressive. This is why democrats seem more unified. Notice I didn't say right... the word is unified. (smile) The democrats don't have much inner toil except when it comes to defining their ideology. Only then do squabbles occur but once settled on, they stand together.

The problem with republicans is, they are subject to the creeping influence of liberalism so many of them don't define themselves due to being afraid of what others think of them. A lot of republican politicians are afraid of negative exposure by appearing too conservative. I believe the upper echelon of republicans have very liberal tendencies... those in control that are behind the scene. This creates rifts within the republican ranks... because they are not well defined.

I hope this helps with why the republicans seem a little out of sorts...

I agree DaNoid, however,you have to stop and look at where this came from. Romney is courting evangelicals so he will have to be upfront about his religion - and the evangelicals in Dixie do not take kindly to Mormans. Not saying it is the right thing to do or right way to be but that is just the way it is. To most Baptists, Church of Christ and Penticostals in the south it is their way or the highway and of course they are the only ones going to heaven, even Bubba with his wife and kids and mistress and kids, if he attends one of their churches he is ok in the spiritual department, LOL, sad but true. i know this because I've been in Bubbaland all my life and I know bubba very well. Bubba will probably have a huge problem with a Morman candidate and any republican who cuts benefits to bubba, his wife, his mistress and their children will never get Bubba's vote.

And Orinn hatch, Steve Young, Johhny Miller, Gladys Knight, etc

Da Noid......good post. It should not matter if one has a religion or not. There should be no litmus test.

To me that is all real "pious baloney"

Duly noted, Julie...my list was specific, however, as I just named all of the current Democrats in Congress who are Mormon.

I can remember all the brouhaha over President Kennedy being a Catholic. That was in 1959/1960. One would have thought we would have matured and learned the religion and politics are seperate and different kettles of fish.

Good point about Ed Shultz, Pizza Man. This must be why nobody watches him. Because of blatant, hypocritical BS like that. As for Chris (Tingle Leg) Matthews, Paul Maddow and Lawrence (Hollywood) O'Connell....

It shouldn't matter, but it does to Republicans who have an entire wing of their party who vote primarily how their paster tells them to. So for a Republican to say it is hypocrisy is just that, hypocrisy. It matters greatly to them.

DaNoid, I agree with your comment. That segment on Ed's show was completely unnecessary and a huge over-reach by Ed, stirring a pot that democrats don't need to stir. I didn't like it at all. At least his guest stated that he was not accusing Romney of racism. Good grief, one can look in the Bible and find things that in modern society are equally outrageous.

amused -- i believe that the Reverends (J. Johnson, A. Sharpton, J. Jackson) do exactly the same thing.

hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

No James, they do not. Jackson and Sharpton don't preach in church telling people how to vote. They may do it on TV, but they don't use a church pulpit and the guise of religion. The Right likes to hear it in church because if it comes from the paster, it must be Right. Nice try though. And let's save the Rev. Wright comments, he's a bigot. They exist everywhere.

No James, they do not. Jackson and Sharpton don't preach in church telling people how to vote. They may do it on TV, but they don't use a church pulpit and the guise of religion.

They may not use the church pulpit but they are blatantly using the "Reverend" title to do it.

Dear Beverly,

With all due respect.

This story is about Mitt Romney and his issues.

Not snow in Chicago, Insane Clown Posses , Obama's shady friends ,church, not Michael's avatar and the world's opinion of it , and campaigning for the community organizer, etc.

Please expend your tremendous wisdom and energy into discussing the story. Maybe you can make a point without taking up so much space and typing in bold. More people will take you seriously if you stick to the subject. May Karma bring you out from the Twilight Zone. :)

I know, I know, I am way off topic myself. But I can't just sit here and not point out the randomness , not just of Beverly, but of so many of the commenters here. Bomb throwing is anarchy.

Humour is better. Please feel free to to put me on Ignore, as I have you. Thanks. :)

Peace , not War

Checkmate !

Romney's stump speeches and debate performances demonstrate the tin ear of his campaign.

"I like to fire people."

"I'll be you $10,000."

"I made Ted Kennedy mortgage his house for his campaign."

Romney seems to be doing a lot of bragging about money. Maybe it is envy on the part of those who criticize Bain Capital, but certainly Romney is not doing himself any favors by flaunting his wealth.

...and never forget how Romney, in part, got his start. He's a card-carrying member of the "Lucky DNA Club". His daddy was a CEO.

Romney used his and his investors money. That's how capitalism works. More jobs were created than lost , maybe not each and every time..... Of course I'm assuming you're educated enough to know.

(Holy crap, I can't believe I'm about to agree with Sarah Palin!)

Leona, doesn't Romney owe us proof that his work with Bain Capital has resulted in a net increase in jobs?

Me too Da Noid. I heard the clip of Sarah Palin questioning the job creation at Bain, and I agree with her.

Watching footage of Romney out campaigning, I'm struck by how he acts like he's doing his supporters a favor by posing for pictures with them. He barely looks at the people he stands next to, and just grins for the camera.

Contrast that to President Obama, who acts like he enjoys meeting people on the rope line, and manages to get a smile from the little kids by looking into their face with interest and warmth.

It may seem like a shallow observation, but I believe body language says a lot about the difference between Romney and Obama. Obama is focused on other people, and Romney is focused on himself.

Hey, Amy!

I'm finally going to make good on my threat to get up to Portland. I've got a meeting at NNEHIF at 2pm next Wednesday. Do you have time for a coffee at 1:30? It would be good to meet you.

Da Noid,

people like YOU need "proof" ( your word) that Romney created a net amount of jobs.

I believe in Capitalism ( not Socialism) so I don't need or want the proof.

The system of Capitalism is far superior to anything else we see in the world. That's why immigrants come here. We are the only place on earth that allows some one to work hard and achieve a better life. Ask Oprah.

No one is fighting to get into Greece, as far as I know.

I believe in Capitalism ( not Socialism) so I don't need or want the proof.

Why do you not want the proof? Are you afraid of what you might see?

Here's the truth that you now sadly deny...

CAPITALISM IS ABOUT CREATING PROFIT, NOT CREATING JOBS.

Da Noid, I agree. Two totally different mentalities. Its a bit easier to work to benefit a single entity (corporation) than then millions of entities in this republic. All of his experience has been to better that corporation even saying It would make me sick to take money and not produce (not exact words). All of his past experience in corporations says he will now OWE those that contributed to his campaign. I, for one, do not feel a zebra can change its stripes.

Joan, NJ, well said.

Nanette, and you think Obama and the democrats don't OWE those that contribute to their campaigns? Obama has paid off his contributors big time, it's the political way.

When it comes to flaunting their wealth, the only difference between Mitt Romney and Donald Trump is one has better hair.

Da Noid, I picked up on that as well. It was genius. And expertly done.

I hope that enough people picked up on the underlying them to realize the real problems with Citizens United and Super PACs.

Mixture of laughing and crying... me too.

Da Noid, while I may not agree with all of your opinions, I must agree that Colbert and Stewart are brilliant. Last night's show was priceless. I wish I could vote for Colbert. :)

Yellowdog,

Excellent post.

Yellowdog---I have found the Obama presidency to be a season of light. The recession of 2008 was undoubtedly the worst economic times most of us have witnessed and the President rolled up his sleeves and went to work on the economy, with little asssistance, and often opposition, from the Republicans. Are we where we want to be yet? No, but the season of light to me is that we are making progress and can be hopeful about the future.

Hi Steeler Fan,

For me Obama's presidency has been a season of both bright and "not so bright" spots. I understand he has not received much help, excepting the times he has gone along with tax cuts or continuation of Bush civil liberty violations. Mind you Obama has managed to get some things done and things that I support. He has also done things that make me grumble and question. You are right though, on the prime factor that will decide his reelection; the economy, is still is not where it needs to be.

Whether it is a 'Season of light' or a 'season of darkness' is based on each of our/my own biased perspectives. I'll join you in hoping that we move toward a season with a brighter future.

As long as we don't move toward the season of our twilight.

A voice of reason! Thanks for your thoughtful postings.

Yellowdog, great post.

I think we are now in a season of dawn and the light is shining in the distance.

I never saw the Bush 43 presidency as a complete season of darkness, there were glimmers of light (his desire to reform immigration, his HIV-AIDS assistance for Africa to name a couple) but I will never excuse him for taking a season of bright light (balanced budget, debt decline) and turning it into a season of darkness by returning to the same failed trickle-down policies that Reagan threw under the bus; cannot ever excuse him for leading us into an unnecessary and unfunded war in Iraq. My feeling is that those things have less to do with my liberal leanings and more to do with the complete ineptness of Bush's policies.

How about endorsing a Muslim?

Christians were saying the same thing about JFK (D) who was the first Catholic President.

Move on, and leave the religion out of politics. BTW, did you know that Harry Reid is a Mormon?

Let's kick Reid out of the Senate for not having a budget in over 900 days. You see, I left his religion out of it.

Let's kick Reid out of the Senate for not having a budget in over 900 days.

That ship sailed last year. How'd Sharron Angle work out for you?

There will mostly come a day in America where a Muslim does seek the office of the President.

A friend of mine told me a story...he's a teacher and during a class yesterday he was interupted by one of his students.

"For God's sake, Matthew, do you mind quieting down, please," he said.

Well, another student said to the first student, "Do you think it's right to say 'for God's sake' when you don't believe in God?"

"Who on Earth told you I don't believe in God," my friend asked.

The student's reply...?

"Well you ARE Jewish, aren't you?"

The public questioned JFK as a Catholic in the White House. We've never had a Jewish president. How will Evangelicals deal with a Mormon candidate?

Leona's right...so long as the "No Religious Test" clause and the First Amendment exist, we need to keep faith out of politics.

...and maybe do a little growing up on the subject.

Are the Republicans keeping faith out of politics when they tell us that God told them to run for President (never mind that He apparently told more than 1 of them that)? Do they in general demonstrate a belief in the separation of church and state?

The public questioned JFK as a Catholic in the White House

In 1960. So we've made no progress whatsoever in 52 years?

Why is anyone making a big deal out of this? He worked in the private sector where the point is to make a profit so you can keep your doors open and employ people and pay them. He provided a service, he saved some business's and others had to be shut down. That's life. We need a leader who knows how to run a business as our president. Our government needs to be smaller and more efficient, there is so much waste in our government because public sector workers think that you just keep raising taxes to pay for their over inflated salaries and their ridiculously outrageous benefits. Close some departments.... I am personally tired of lifer politicians who don't know how to run anything let alone a country. This country is a mess because of lifer politicians who earn their money dishonestly (insider trading) and by tax money taken from others. He earned his money and provided a valuable service.

Wm,

You touch on something that I don't see today. I can remember growing up when a company felt like they were part of the community and WANTED to be. Now, it is only money - not people - that matter. Maybe it is a reflection on all of us. If so, I hope we decide we want to change that image.

Obama bailed out the banks. Maybe he should NOT have done it. Debate that for a while.

p.s. Japan should NOT be used as a model for anything we do here. They have their own problems.

Leona,

I know you despise anyone who disagrees with you, or is not from the far right, but I have a question for you. When did money become more important the people? More important the family and community? Yes, we have problems now, but what has happend to our moral compass where people and country came before money and power?

Go ahead, you are free to mock me now.

LEONA-2986819

Obama bailed out the banks

TARP was under Bush, FYI.

Thanks Leona--- I didn't know that TARP was signed into law under President Obama.

Next thing you know historians will write that he started the Iraq war over a big EFN lie too.

Maybe you should go to your corner and debate yourself.

We need to get away from the notion that corporations are people, or at least that they are patriotic and have a vested interest in their communities. On the one hand the GOP says that businesses are in business to make a profit and are answerable to the directors and the shareholders. But then, in the same breath, the GOP tells the rest of us to treat businesses nice.

Leona,

Perhaps you could take some history and civics classes at your local community college. The classes aren't that expensive and they could help open your eyes to the world around you.

We also need to come to the understanding that while governments are capable of tyranny, corporations are equally capable of tyranny.

Leona are you stuck on ID10T? Bush bailed out the banks.

In the past 12 months, taxpayers, sovereign wealth funds and private investors have sunk $1 trillion into failing U.S. and British financial institutions, while central banks have slashed their cost of funds to nothing and their collateral standards even lower. Yet major banks continue to collapse. Why?

01/29/2009

"The TARP program was created in 2008 to stabilize the financial system. The Treasury Department has committed more than $500 billion to more than 800 firms through the program. While Mr. Obama did not enact TARP, his administration has largely been responsible for administering it."

"A CBS News poll from January of this year showed that 49 percent of respondents said the Obama administration has done too much for the banks. The administration has characterized TARP as one of the "unpopular but necessary" steps needed to help the economy."

Which means you can't read a date!

Squid,

The CBS article above was written in 2009, that's obvious to everyone but YOU.

Leona, President Bush signed TARP into law...FACT!

The following Republicans voted in favor of TARP: John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, Lindsey Graham, John Thune, John Cornyn, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Lamar Alexander, Bob Corker, Orrin Hatch, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Judd Gregg, Tom Coburn, Dick Lugar, Paul Ryan, Peter King...need I continue?

And what date did Obama take office you moron?

Leona, take note--PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK OFFICE ON JANUARY 21, 2009, AFTER TARP WAS PASSED AND SIGNED BY PRESIDENT BUSH IN 2008. I put that in all caps thinking maybe you need glasses but just in case it's something else--the year 2008 preceded the year 2009, not the reverse.

LOL ! Republicans can never admit when they are wrong.

TARP came directly from the pen of bush43, he had help from his sidekick Paulson.

danoid -- so lot's of shouting on this TARP thing but showing only republicans that voted for it is disingenuous.

bush signed the bill after it passed through the democrat controlled house and senate.

in the senate more democrats than republicans supported the bill. among the supporters were: Biden, Clinton, Dodd, Durbin, Kerry, Obama, Reid, Schumer

so correct, bush was president but without democrats like barack obama and the rest of the senate democrat leadership team it would have never happened.

james,

Liberals don't like truth. They like "spin."

They keep conveniently forgetting that Pelosi (D) and Reid (D) controlled the Congress from 2007 through 2010.

Leona, did you eat lead paint chips when you were a kid???

Tommy,

since you think Romney "stole" money, you must also think Obama "stole" our Tax dollars when he invested it into bankrupt Solyndra and other "green" money pits.

It works both ways. So, stop the liberal lies. It's too obvious.

Leona your credibility is a big fat zero! You don't even know when Obama took office and when the bank bailouts were!

Next thing you'll tell everyone is about the Carter Gas Shortages! LOL 1973 when Nixon was president! I'm still laughing!!!!!!!! You can learn how to read a date online!!!!!!!

Squid,

You sound very angry. Maybe a doctor can help?

The fact that I didn't add in the date of the CBS article has nothing to do with the point I was making. You're just grasping at straws because you don't agree with my politics.

BTW, attacking me won't make the truth disappear. Good luck with that.

Romney/Rubio 2012

Leona has proven to be a troll. Just hit ignore and move on to someone more credible and try and ignore the smelly bait.

Agree!! I wasted 15 minutes of my time on a brainless Troll!!

LEONA-2986819 Ignoring author

Since so many of us on FR have you on ignore and they will have to "uncollapse" your comment to read this...

I've always wondered, does my comment looked any different to those I have on ignore?..;-)

Cynthia,

The fact that you "ignore" me, works better for me than it does for you. LOL

Gosh, so many Republicans are showing signs of short term memory. I myself remember how bad the economy and unemployment were under President Bush and getting worst up to his last days in office.

So actually the truth is, President Obama inherited this incredible brink of depression mess from President Bush and President Obama has done a good job of turning the country around.

I honestly have to say anyone that doesn’t recognize this fact is pretty out of touch with reality.

Even Romney and the rest admit that President Obama inherited this mess. They usually then exhibit signs of Alzheimer's and skip the part where their party has obstructed virtually everything he had tried to do to correct the course. I read a report the other day where nicotine helps with memory loss. Maybe they should inhale and stop blowing the smoke.

Still cyring repubicians guess what OBAMA is going to win this election in 2012 because he better he knows what he doing. Hears some for Repubicans and their's party you still sucked really bad but are still crying like babies on National tv. One thing repubicans and their's and the partys when you to Cleveland Ohio don't cry like little babies on national tv and save hometown. Cried little babies Cried ha ha. OBAMA Is never leaving the white house.

Romney understands the economy and knows how to jump start it.

Obama wouldn't know how to create a job if his life depended on it.

Obama for DEBT.

Romney for JOBS.

What jobs! Oh 3,964 jobs while Governor! Wow that is allot of jobs in 4 years. By that standard President Obama created 1.6 million jobs in 3 years (That is a fact)

Romney's Bain Capital jobs can not be proven! Like Sarah Palin stated, "please show us the records from Bain Capital"

Please do your research before you speak!!

ROMNEY AS GOVENOR............let's see.......... 85% of the legislature there was DEMOCRAT.

Take up your criticisms with the Democrats. They hate the private sector. Romney did his best to turn things around. His record on the Olympics is stellar.

Obama has 8.6% unemployment. Make those comparisons.

Bush left him with 11.5% 8.5 means it went down duhhhhhhhhhhh

Squid,

LOL

I hate to burst your bubble, but you need to take a look at the unemployment rate under Bush and what it was when Obama took office. It went UP UP UP.

The Olympic Committee!! Romney aided in reorganizing the committee and helped to begin fixing it! As head of a committee is the best you got!! Please tell me you are joking!!

Okay so as Head of President Obama's Campaign Committee he raised over $700 million and his record is stellar!!

Please stop! This is the best you got!!

TO: LEONA-2986819 who wrote:

"Romney understands the economy and knows how to jump start it...Romney for JOBS."

Romney never "jump started" ANY economy, but he inact "Romney Care" which is identical to "Obamacare".

Romney was a Jobs Cremator who made his millions shipping American Jobs Overseas, just like Bush and Cheney were Oil men who made their millions drilling oil.

We're NOT going to repeat the same mistake we already made in the past, i.e., thinking that Bush & Cheney would STOP drilling for oil once they were in the White House, but what they actually did was use our money and our military to overthrow the government of the 2nd largest oil producing nation in the World.

NOW we're supposed to believe that the man who made his millions laying off American Worker, who still loves firing people, liquidating businesses and shipping jobs overseas WON'T do that anymore if he get's in the White House?

We already got burned REAL BAD that way Leona!

Romney = Jobs Cremator; Republicans = Tax Cuts for the rich, Pay Cuts for American Workers.

Obama / Biden 2012

American girl,

Since Pelosi and Reid controlled the Congress from 2007 through 2010, what have they done for you????? Does Bush always have to get blamed for those 2 Democrat incompetents?

LMAO!!!!

Houston, van jones, valarie garrett, andy stern and cass sunstien, trumpka, hoffa are all advising hussein on free enterprise.

Who told you that rachael madcow!!!!!

Gary K-2697770

Houston, van jones, valarie garrett, andy stern and cass sunstien, trumpka, hoffa are all advising hussein on free enterprise.

Are you trying to win the prize for Most Idiotic Comment of the Day? If you are, you're certainly a contender. Obama's Secretary of the Treasury is Timothy Geithner. His former economic adviser was Larry Summers. Both are closely related to Wall Streeters (and not the ones doing the occupying). Obama has been criticized by his hiring of too many Wall Street insiders.

So, got any other stupid comments about "Hussein" to get out of your system?

BTW: Gary K is employing a typical nutjob tactic: When the total fraudulence of a Republican like McCain is exposed for what it is, start calling the President of the United States nasty names and lying about him.

Gary,

Where are your facts? Just because you say something doesn't make it true. I think you are nothing more than a bomb thrower, that doesn't know what you are talking about. Please stop throwing bombs of non-facts that don’t have anything to do with our current President.

You sound too much like Rush.

Gary K,

wow, these liberals are gonna "lose their breakfast" over that list ! LOL

It makes their support of Obama seem anti-American. Now , doesn't it ???????????????

I gave you enough info for you to check out for yourself, most obama troll's are happy just

"throwing bomb's, ??????

I post you decide??????

We are fine with what Gary throws out there. It's his right to do so. Of course we know it's all false hood garbage, put out by the radical right, and I never claimed they were the smart ones.

Leona, Hey girl!!!!

hussein's troll's are simply his troll's but I do love to get them upset.

Just maybe someone on the fence may just decide to do some research on their own????

Actually, we are pretty good researchers and we believe in facts and not fiction.

Leona or Gary what grade are you in? You have no facts, but name calling!! The two of you together are no match against anyone on this blog! When you go home from grade school please ask your mother or father to write us!!

Like I said sonny I post you decide!!!!

I sure hope the likes of Leona and Gary continue to post right up to the election! They are the clearest signs that the GOP is controlled by illogical liars. Their name-calling tactics, made up "facts" and slightly veiled racism are proof that the right wing is not up to the challenges of running this great country in the 21st century. Thanks, GOP, for the laughs. You are making it too easy for Obama. Thanks for that too.

TO: LEONA-2986819 who wrote:

"Romney understands the economy and knows how to jump start it...Romney for JOBS."

Romney never "jump started" ANY economy, but he inact "Romney Care" which is identical to "Obamacare".

Romney was a Jobs Cremator who made his millions shipping American Jobs Overseas, just like Bush and Cheney were Oil men who made their millions drilling oil.

We're NOT going to repeat the same mistake we already made in the past, i.e., thinking that Bush & Cheney would STOP drilling for oil once they were in the White House, but what they actually did was use our money and our military to overthrow the government of the 2nd largest oil producing nation in the World.

NOW we're supposed to believe that the man who made his millions laying off American Worker, who still loves firing people, liquidating businesses and shipping jobs overseas WON'T do that anymore if he get's in the White House?

We already got burned REAL BAD that way Leona!

Romney = Jobs Cremator; Republicans = Tax Cuts for the rich, Pay Cuts for American Workers.

Obama / Biden 2012

I see from Gary K's foul-mouthed rant that he doesn't get the concept of irony. It's ironic that John McCain USED to attack Romney's business practices in 2007, but now implies that only Communists would criticize them. OF COURSE McCain isn't a Communist, you idiot. He's a hypocrite and a flip-flopper, two severe character defects he shares with Mitt Romney.

Hey Houston,

Why don't you compare the barbs thrown in this Repub Primary ( and also what McCain said about Romney) with the things H. Clinton said about Obama in 08.

The Clinton's even questioned Obama's birth certificate.

Too bad the Democrat electorate threw Hillary under the bus. She would have done well as President (and I say that as a Republican). Bill always worked with Repubs.

As far as I know, Romney hasn't mutillated any puppies and drank the blood of afterbirth,...TODAY.

What a bizarre commentary for you to cling to, Helmsley.

Or better BBQ. That white sauce is nasty. LOL

Good Morning Nash,

Just my own thought here, but I would guess one of the reason's Mr. Romney doesn't want to release his financial statements is that it could sink his message and his candidacy. Like I said, just a guess.

Morning GF!

It is also true Willard enjoys firing people, after all, he said so himself!

Since it's Friday - time to bust out some of that cherry kool-aid & some *popcorn* don't ya think?

PS: Forgot to tell you, I got your card - simply gorgeous! ☺

Great insights ladies . . . I think it is hard for someone to simultaneously ask us to trust them while also trying to hide stuff from us, no?

lol

P.S. Thanks for your card as well Feisty . . . still on my mantle . . . because it is still Christmas at my house! lol

Feisty, you get MY card? If you did, you would have read where I told you to stop taking one sentence out of context in order to change the whole meaning of a person's staement. I know that's pretty much all you have to pound Mitt with at this point. But the American people are smarter than you and smarter than you think (except of course, when they vote opposite you), and already have been told that the Romney trashersare playing word games similar to what David (If I Were A Rich Man) Walker does every day. Either way, I hope you had a Happy Kwaanza, yo.

Damage:

Jealousy . . . dare I say it . . . envy . . . doesn't become you. Also, the irony of you complaining about an out of context quote, when that is basically what YOU do around here all day is pretty ballsy, no?

lol

P.S. The American people are pretty damn smart . . . which is how President Obama was elected . . . and will be re-elected! :o)

TGIF and Good Morning; Nash

Phine is correct about Willard .

Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Cayman Islands accounts

By OzHouse On January 8, 2012

http://ozhouse.org/2012/01/08/mitt-romney-avoids-u-s-tax-by-using-cayman-islands-accounts/

You may find this video informative about Willard's activities. I posted it yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BLWnB9FGmWE

Fiesty;

You asked did I clear the snow. Are you kidding? I sent my brother out to track through the snow. I'm a Diva.

Hey Brain Damaged;

In the spirit of the season - here is MY card to you!

It's not too obvious that you don't like me - so I would suggest you have a seat with the rest of the bitches waiting for me to give a F*ck!

@Bev - Darling... yes you are a DIVA! {{hugs}}

Folks on the right don't seem to get that what we are challenging is Romney's statements that his business experience is as a job creator---over 100,000 he says (without giving any proof). Yet everything that is written about his company says that its model is to outsource jobs and shut down companies.

I don't think it makes me anti-capitalist to suggest that Bain could have generated a lower return and preserved jobs in America. Putting aside the morality of outsourcing jobs, it would be a sound business practice to be sure that there are customers who can afford to buy the goods of the companies you are investing in. That principle worked pretty well for Henry Ford.

P.S. Nash----just got the last of the Christmas stuff put away--why is it so much harder to take down than put up?

PSS Beverly----glad to know a fellow diva! My golf league is called Divot Divas!

Steeler Fan:

I think I will bite the bullet and put Christmas away this weekend . . . finally! Here is some more interesting reading about the exploits of Bain Capital . . . the term "robber baron" comes to mind.

Romney's private equity firm, Bain Capital, bought companies and often increased short-term earnings so those businesses could then borrow enormous amounts of money. That borrowed money was used to pay Bain dividends. Then those businesses needed to maintain that high level of earnings to pay their debts...

* Bain in 1988 put $5 million down to buy Stage Stores, and in the mid-'90s took it public, collecting $100 million from stock offerings. Stage filed for bankruptcy in 2000.

* Bain in 1992 bought American Pad & Paper (AMPAD), investing $5 million, and collected $100 million from dividends. The business filed for bankruptcy in 2000.

* Bain in 1993 invested $60 million when buying GS Industries, and received $65 million from dividends. GS filed for bankruptcy in 2001.

* Bain in 1997 invested $46 million when buying Details, and made $93 million from stock offerings. The company filed for bankruptcy in 2003.

Romney's Bain invested 22 percent of the money it raised from 1987-95 in these five businesses, making a $578 million profit.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ad_mitt_mistakes_jRmd2LHaPIb0bbNn1ZkgaJ

We, as the voting public, need to DEMAND that Romney show his tax returns! That will speak louder than words about his tax sheltered wealth (see Cayman Islands).

Oh, SNAP, Feisty!

I had NO idea you'd get an opportunity to use that SO quickly! LOL

PS. Loved your card Nash! Your cherubs are gorgeous, like YOU!

Hugs to all, too busy at work to stick around,...Just voting folks up.

Oh - and please stop collapsing the Albany Joekster. Really, let his stuff stand loud and proud.

I had NO idea you'd get an opportunity to use that SO quickly! LOL

I have got to thank YOU for that one GF!

It will come in handy in the future! ☺

Agreed on the Idiot from Albany - let his stupidity shine...

Don't confuse your history. It is a bit hard to claim that Washington and Jefferson had free market capitalism in mind when they were running their plantations. To them free markets meant the ability to sell their goods without tariffs. On the other hand, people like John Adams were small farmers. They just wanted to be able to sell their produce across state lines without interference from the next state. We've made plenty of mistakes in our 236 years - the rail road and robber baron era after the Civil War is a great example of capitalism run amok. What US economic policy has tried to do, at least since Teddy Roosevelt, is to figure out how to smooth out the boom-bust cycles that capitalism tends to suffer through.

Dream on Wm.-375815... capitalism and the free market are what made this country into the strongest and greatest nation on earth. Believe what you want about history, but when push comes to shove, America will not take up a socialist leaning. If this is a line in the sand, it's a slam dunk for the GOP. America will overwhelmingly vote for freedom, capitalism and the free market. We have plenty of laws already on the books to deal with capitalism run amok (as the Libs like to say), we just have to enforce them. The American Dream is built on capitalism and free markets. It's an easy sell.

Skinger .. please tell me where in the founding documents, it details that America is founded on capitalism and free markets. Also, while at it, please tell me where the American Dream is described as a capitalistic, free market dream. To help you out a bit, here is a link to a great description of the American Dream. Read it and weep as you find out capitalism and free markets are not described.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dream

skinger

I am LMFAO on this argument about whether or not capitalism and the free market are good for America. This is a total WIN for the GOP, and it's not even an argument.

You're half right. It's not even an argument. It's just a strawman because nobody in the Democratic party is saying that the capitalism is not "good". What is being argued is that a certain TYPE of capitalism is not good -- namely Romney's "vulture capitalism," as Rick Perry calls it. A person past the age of reason should be able to understand that distinction. For a normal person, the age of reason is supposeldy seven years old. For rightwing nutcakes, it must be more like 95.

Good post, Marcoo. It almost sounds like you're supporting the idea that ANYONE can be successful even if they start out with modest means. One of the things that liberals like to believe is that ALL rich people were born that way, hence the envy and resentment. Most of the wealthy that I know, started out with little and made themselves rich. To hear people day in and day out accuse them of being greedy hoogers of inheritence is disgusting.

I do support that idea, Damage.

I support it wholeheartedly. I could not have dreamed of even the modest success I've been blessed with without the environment this nation (sometimes quite messily) provides.

Unfortunately, just like with some of those who are poor and happen to game a system that ultimately is there to ensure for them some level of subsistence in adverse situations, there are those also who have made enormous profits under that same umbrella of governance, and seek only to destroy that "contract", as it interferes with their desire for more and more.

There's nothing wrong with wanting "more" of something, I'd guess. There's something wrong with the way you could potentially go about it, though.

Couple of thoughts come to mind...one about one rotten apple spoiling the whole bunch...and another about the love of money being the root of all evil...

...but that free liberal government education I had to settle for fails me from time to time...

In the interests of clarity, Damage...you can certainly think as lowly of me and my liberal mindset as you choose. I don't mind. Honest.

Comes with the skin color....

Or not. Regardless of our skin color, most of us who have come from modest circumstances and managed to succeed in life appreciate the opportunities that society provided us so we could, with hard work, succeed. Those who would deny similar opportunity to young people today and advocate for "sink or swim" tend to be folks born to privilege. Not all, but most.

Private Equity firms like Bain are not vultures. Bain is a great company, it was named one of the best

companies to work for.

There are over 2,300 Private Equity companies in the U.S.

There may be some who've done questionable deals, but that doesn't mean Bain Capital did.

Romney added new jobs through Staples, Sports Authority, and others.

Actually, Romney's created more Jobs than Obama has in the 3 yrs Obama's been president.

Obama's failed Miserably, at his attempt at capitalism:

Solyndra: Obama LOST Half-A-Billion dollars; went bankrupt; Employees LOST their Jobs.

Evergreen Solar: Obama LOST Millions of dollars; jobs went to China; Employees LOST their Jobs.

G.M. Bailout: Obama put Hundreds of Auto Dealerships OUT OF BUSINESS.. employees LOST their jobs

The difference between Private Equity Capitalism and Government-attempt-at Capitalism: Taxpayers PAY for OBAMA/Government FAILURES.

Bain, a bottom-feeder company, would make me happy if I were on their payroll. Heck, I would vote for it positively a hundred times if I were making 6 figures working for them. But that doesn't mean it is a company of integrity.

I doubt we will be seeing Romney's tax returns any time soon. What is in it for him to release them?

Actually, Romney's created more Jobs than Obama has in the 3 yrs Obama's been president

He's also eliminated more jobs than Obama. What we don't know is the net number. He claims it's a net positive. That is a claim, not a fact. A fact is something you can demonstrate or prove. I'm thinking if he could prove it he would have.

You DemWits are not looking at the most importand issues. Abortion is my number one issue, liberals are responsible for killing 53 million unborn in this country since 1973. Number two, somebody has to work to pay the bills and over 50% do not pay any federal income taxes. Around 50 million are on food stamps and another 50 million on some government entitlement. Number three, DemWits have no morals and support gay marriage and every other pervert in society. I would like to see the country divided up between the liberals and conservatives, and those with morals and those without. But, the liberals would all starve to death because they could not feed themselves so we cannot do that. All Dems are Occupier minded do nothings and just waiting on the next entitlement.

Morerepukecriminals: Exactly. You right wing radical cracked teanuts don't care about the economy. All you want to get passed is your biblical fantasies that have been brainwashed into you by your local pastors. Didn't you idiots learn from the Jesus freaks in MS that tried to ban abortion. You lost overwhelmingly. And MS is one of the reddest Jesus freak states there are. Your party is run by abortion doctor killers, abortion clinic bombers, federal building bombers and southern radical right wing anthrax spreaders.

Too bad your evangleical king Harold Camping did not take you idiots away on Rapture Day on Oct 21 to meet and stay with the man in the sky. Then we would be rid of you. It failed because his calculations were based on biblical fairy tales. He proved to himself that the bible is pulp fiction.