Perry backer won't defect but urges end to jabs at Romney's Bain work

 

COLUMBIA, S.C. – After Rick Perry's attacks on Mitt Romney's private-sector resume cost him one high-profile South Carolina supporter Thursday, another influential Perry backer said he won’t change his endorsement but also asked for the Bain Capital jabs to stop.

David Wilkins, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada who endorsed Perry in August, told NBC News that he had voiced his dislike of Perry’s anti-Bain attacks with the campaign here.

"I think it's sort of ironic for Republicans to be attacking each other on capitalism and the free-enterprise system, which is something our whole party is based on," Wilkins said.

Earlier Thursday, Barry Wynn, a financial adviser and former chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party, told the Washington Postthat Perry's criticism of Romney's Bain record "kind of moved me over the top," compelling him to switch to the Romney camp.

Wilkins, a former South Carolina speaker of the House, said Perry and his Republican rivals "ought to accentuate the positive in everybody's campaign and leave the negatives to the other side and not be cutting each other up so much."

Wilkins was more supportive of Perry's TV ads, which tout his military record and Christian conservatism, calling them "extremely positive" and "professionally good."

Related story: Perry backs off 'vulture' attack on Romney and Bain

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As I said before in a previous thread, the GOP establishment wants everyone to play nice and follow the 11th commandment. They are "all in" on Romney and want no dissension in the ranks.

  • 11 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:06 PM EST

Phinephancy

I couldnt agree more except for a few notable; and I use this word lightly; excetions aka Silly Sarah who said its fair to bring up. (I know im not telling you anything you dont already know)

PalinHitsRomney
www.youtube.com

Another interesting factoid

Bain managers told
the Los Angeles Times
that they weren’t focused on creating jobs;
they were trying to make money.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:12 PM EST

Ouch! That won't please the former governor! (And it's great for the opposition to use!)

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST

The GOP never vets it candidates, so here they are with Mittens and all his financial dealings.

Let us not forget Sarah from Wasilla......my my my what a little vetting would have discovered!

Good nite!

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST

reagan's 11th is so yesterday when only info from the big three network were obtainable....this is the problem with the gop outdated....modern techo has made this a quint tradition in practical in the new age.. i don't have to listen to someone bad mouth the other i have access via this computer to nearly everything any canidate has ever said or done.....newt does need me to tell me about bain....google it boom read 150 stories.. you can't hide from the truth and you can't lie to the people.....fox can only spin to the people that want spun or are to lazy to access the truth....i sorry i'm all growth up i don't need a party to tell me what to think or who to vote for.....so what's it matter if the republicans beat up on each other we have the info.....so them being nice to each other doesn't prepare him for the fact that in the big dance against obama it's tackle not touch and obama's got one billion to spend slicing and dicing up whatever canidate comes out of the republican dog and pony show.....newt only want the 11th commandment observed because he doesn't have the resources to defend himself that's money folks....and he knows it.........this party disclipine things doesn't make any sense they can't put their finger in the dike to keep information out.....or the past from coming back to bite em in the ass.....gop problem is that there are less and less people that believe because most of it is just cover for the rich....and powerful it's always been that way put now it's up close and personnel . its hard for the gop to stand up for what they believe in when it seems they don't believe in much anymore....

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:01 PM EST

Nothing like seeing a grown man get b**** slapped around.

Seems like you folks believe more in your alleged free-markets and capitalism and far less on freedom of speech. If you don't like what Perry is saying, leave.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:52 PM EST

Just wait till you get Mitts up on the podium, Obama's gonna bitch-slap him into a skirt and panties.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:35 AM EST

marc,

Actually, it has nothing to do with Reagans 11th, it has to do with the Neo-con Bosses telling all the candidates that mitts is the "Man" which I can believe with all the questionable crap that has already happened in this cycle.

Dr Paul is the only "Real" opposition candidate in the race and they cannot beat him fairly so they are going to cheat. I remember my Father bitchin about just this behavior back in the fifties with the democrats rigging the nominations.

I think Dr Paul and liberty is what this country really needs now more than ever, we are not going to get it from either party any time soon. and the erosion of our scared rights over the last ten years is what should be the real issue today.

Wait until the president decides to use the power that he has been handed this last year, we will all regret it then and it will take a massive amount of blood before we get them back, (if we ever do)

All the while, The great libertarians will weep watching it happen, knowing that the spirit of America and what it stands for is Alive and Well, but it's knowledge of the true enemy has dissipated over the years, to a distant memory that the few left who understand and are still alive cry about every day.

I suspect as time goes on and the attacks from the rest of the world come, and they are coming, I assure you, our shores will no longer protect us like they have for two centuries. We do not have the manpower to fight a global war, this is a war that even our dearest friends in the world of today will not stand with us on, we will fight alone. It won't be fought with drones in the sky, cruise missiles flying through doorways, smart shells picking where to hurt the enemy the most. It will be fought by men and women in the streets and countryside with rifle in hand, as all such just wars are fought.

America the last empire?, probably not because history tends to repeat itself every thousand years or so, someday we as a race will learn that killing ourselves will only lead to our extermination in our entirety. But unfortunately, we haven't learned it yet and won't learn it in my lifetime or the lifetime of any of the posters here, maybe our great great grandchildren will learn the lessons we have failed to learn.

I can only hope.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:03 AM EST

Why stop talking about what Romney did at Bain? He did what he was suppose to do... Strip the companies, make as much profit as he can for himself and his cronies. then take millions and walk away... He was not there to save jobs or to make jobs... Personal profit for number one, himself. He should stop trying to spin a story and just tell the truth...

Truth being, Romney made hundredes of millions of dollars off the backs of thousands of workers... Plain and simple... He got millions the workers got pink slips.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST

The real reason everyone is in lockstep about the Bain Attacks:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bain-capital-owns-clear-channel-rush-limbaugh-sean-hannity-glenn-beck-michael-savage-etc.html

Bain owns every single one of them so of course they must stop the noise about the Prophet of Bain!

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST

Michael

Verry Interesting. Thank you very much.

Bain has much to lose by having public attention drawn to its methodology and its privileged income tax status.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:03 PM EST

Perry's not going to win anyways...

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:31 PM EST

I see a Ron Paul supporter...

Dr Paul is the only "Real" opposition candidate in the race and they cannot beat him fairly so they are going to cheat. I remember my Father bitchin about just this behavior back in the fifties with the democrats rigging the nominations.

"Cheating"? If Ron Paul's superiority is so clear, why is he losing? You know he's not going to win...

I think Dr Paul and liberty is what this country really needs now more than ever, we are not going to get it from either party any time soon. and the erosion of our scared rights over the last ten years is what should be the real issue today.

Obama has also fought to protect American's rights. You'll have to use more than that single political position to argue why Paul is the answer.

Wait until the president decides to use the power that he has been handed this last year, we will all regret it then and it will take a massive amount of blood before we get them back, (if we ever do)

If you are referring to the NDAA, the bill is vague in what powers in grants. When a bill has this kind of vagueness, the President gets to decide how to enforce it, and Obama has made it clear that he will preserve constitutional rights. Keep in mind that Obama had previously threatened to veto, and only dropped the threat when the bill was passed with an 80% majority.

All the while, The great libertarians will weep watching it happen, knowing that the spirit of America and what it stands for is Alive and Well, but it's knowledge of the true enemy has dissipated over the years, to a distant memory that the few left who understand and are still alive cry about every day.

Nobody cares about libertarians. The United States has always maintained strong federal-level regulations, as has any developed country.

I suspect as time goes on and the attacks from the rest of the world come, and they are coming, I assure you, our shores will no longer protect us like they have for two centuries. We do not have the manpower to fight a global war, this is a war that even our dearest friends in the world of today will not stand with us on, we will fight alone. It won't be fought with drones in the sky, cruise missiles flying through doorways, smart shells picking where to hurt the enemy the most. It will be fought by men and women in the streets and countryside with rifle in hand, as all such just wars are fought.

You need evidence to support this.

America the last empire?, probably not because history tends to repeat itself every thousand years or so, someday we as a race will learn that killing ourselves will only lead to our extermination in our entirety. But unfortunately, we haven't learned it yet and won't learn it in my lifetime or the lifetime of any of the posters here, maybe our great great grandchildren will learn the lessons we have failed to learn.

You assume that history repeats itself. In any case, you don't offer how Ron Paul will fix this.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:39 PM EST
Reply

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/01/12/the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression/3/

If anyone wants to know why we need to change horses read the article above.

  • 3 votes
#2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST

Change the horse in the House and leave the Jockey where he is.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:20 PM EST

Rob, you'll never see me vote for a Republican. Never. They don't give a damn about working families. I have a good paying secure job, but it's not about me. It's about those who work hard their entire lives only to see them lose their jobs because of greed and mismanagement.

Boehner, McConnell, Cantor - Evil people. And they don't even try to hide it. Mitt Romney, if you listen to him, is just as cruel as those three are. He LOVES the fact that he's rich. And doesn't give a damn about those who have lost their jobs. This is why the working class will NEVER vote for him.

Greed. That's what it's all about these days. Have you seen the photo of Romney & his pals standing around holding money up to the camera?

It's disgraceful. And it's the only thing the Republican Party cares about.

Money.

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:26 PM EST

I would love to hear a rebuttal of the facts presented in the article. The problem is that what's written is indisputable!

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:27 PM EST

Rob, what's indisputable is the Republican Party's love of war and the price we have all had to pay because of it. Throw in the tax cuts and what do we have? Blame President Obama. It's as easy as 1, 2, 3.

Is the House back in session yet? If not, why not? Don't they freakin' ever work?

  • 8 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM EST

Rob- He called Romney a Thomas Dewey ... rebut that.

  • 5 votes
#2.5 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST

Pat,
It is counter productive to any business to not care about their employees. They are any entities greatest resource. Is their such a thing as corporate raiders? But is it the norm? No.

  • 2 votes
#2.6 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:47 PM EST

The record is crystal clear - The Republicans are irresponsible and are not to be trusted with running our country in the manner they have chosen to do so. Beating Obama should not be their one and only goal in times such as these. Yet it is their one and only goal.

Their goal from day 1 should have been committed to working side by side with President Obama and his Administration to get our country back on track, but the GOP had neither the foresight nor inclination to work for the American people.

They have decided somewhere along the way to answer to no one except Norquist, the Koch Brothers and Rush Limbaugh.

Irresponsible doesn't begin to describe today's GOP.

  • 10 votes
#2.7 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:48 PM EST

When Romney is President the number one priority for the dems will be to beat him. That is and always has been the way of politics. McConnell was the only one foolish enough to say it out loud. It was a mistake.

  • 2 votes
#2.8 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST

No Rob, McConnell's mistake wasn't being foolish enough to say it out loud. His mistake was not working for the American people.

  • 9 votes
#2.9 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:01 PM EST

Most Presidents once elected will reach out and invite the opposition leader to the white house, particularly, a minority leader.

Do you know how long it was before Obama reached out to him. And working for the American people does not include agreeing with and legislating policy that is contrary to your own parties ideals.

I remember bush calling Ted Kennedy within just weeks of taking office and putting together No Child Left Behind. That was a true effort at bipartisanship. What was Obama olive branch?

  • 2 votes
#2.10 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:10 PM EST

Pat Boston MA,

Bingo!!

the Senate and House have forgotten the people though they talk about us all the time and our children and grandchildren. Talk is cheap, but working together for the people would require thought, negotiation showing up for work days , less time off... This Congress is the beyond the pale.

The Speaker is is Latin American , the rest are at other points of interest.

Meanwhile, the money is rolling in for the biggest, most nasty election cycle in history.

  • 3 votes
#2.11 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST

And I remember President Obama inviting certain Republicans to the White House for the Super Bowl - to try and cement some relationships going forward. This was about a week after he was inaugerated. Of course they turned him down and have ever since. I remember Boehner - or was it Cantor - walking out on meetings with the President. I also remember President Obama saying in an interview that he gets along fine with Boehner & McConnell.

So you believe only what you want to believe. You have yet to hold your party accountable for anything. Especially their love affair with Norquist. He does all their thinking for them. Everybody knows that they repeat whatever he tells them. And the kicker - they are afraid to hurt Limbaugh's feelings and get on his bad side for fear of him ridiculing them. After all, he gives them free advertising.

What the hell kind of leadership is that? Why don't you hold them accountable?

  • 6 votes
#2.12 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:26 PM EST

I just told you McConnell was foolish. Now tell me what legislative olive branch Obama offered as Bush had?

Other than pretzels and a beer for the game of course.

  • 1 vote
#2.13 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:31 PM EST

Northstar, yes indeed - talk is cheap. And this could be easily remedied if people in this country would pay attention and vote them out. But they don't pay attention and there isn't a thing we can do about it. They believe all the nonsense about unions, about Democrats just wanting hand outs, etc.

It makes them feel better about themselves if they just knock down everybody else. It's a crying shame because it's all lies. The working class don't want hand outs. They just want to support their families and be given a fair shake.

Republicans don't want to give them that. Neither do their supporters. The working class get to fight the wars and then we make them pay for the wars and the tax cuts by cutting programs that only help them live their lives with dignity. Which is all they want. Which is all anybody wants. And something everbody should have.

  • 4 votes
#2.14 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:38 PM EST

Rob, go to the front page of Daily Kos. There's that photo of Romney showing off his money with his pals to the camera.

This is the guy you want for our President?

btw, President Obama created more jobs than Romney did. Romney just created more wealth for himself and his investor friends.

  • 7 votes
#2.15 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:44 PM EST

Rob in ma-3189632

I would love to hear a rebuttal of the facts presented in the article

You will never hear one, why, because it is a Forbes article, the only thing posted in response is emotional appeals and arguments without any real basis.

Personally I'm getting ready for the crash, because every honest economist that is not keynesian or politically bought and paid for is explaining the causes, predicting it and showing the historical matching trends.

I'm not going to try to convince anyone posting here, particularly the Democrats, they don't want to hear it. Their man is in power, and that is all they know, and all they want to know.

  • 1 vote
#2.16 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:35 AM EST

A broken clock is right twice a day Egilman. You are correct here. For example

As a result, if the Bush tax cuts just expire for these upper income taxpayers, along with the Obamacare taxes, in 2013 the top two income tax rates will jump nearly 20%, the capital gains tax rate will soar by nearly 60%, the tax on corporate dividends will nearly triple, and the Medicare payroll tax will leap by 62% for those disfavored taxpayers.

The author implies that 60% is a huge number, as if it means that a tax rate of 15% will rise to a tax rate of 75%. This is not the case. Rather, the tax rate will rise to 160% of 15%, which is only 20%.

He also states "The United States has the highest corporate tax rate in the world". This is technically true, but the average effective corporate tax rate in United States is lower than many European countries, due to the many loopholes and subsidies offered. For example, GE paid nothing in taxes a few years back, due to green energy tax credits from the ARRA.

    #2.17 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:49 PM EST
    Reply

    David Wilkins was a decent ambassador who traveled the entire country ... quite a few were surprised he left.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST

    You do test me, dear friend. I was not familar with him and did a google search. I can see where he, indeed, seemed to be a good friend to your country. But, I am confused to why he would support Perry.

    • 2 votes
    #3.1 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:25 PM EST

    Phine, you would be surprised at how ignorant Americans can be about who is their largest trading partner. Wilkins boned up on us and got it right. Think he learned some french also.

    • 1 vote
    #3.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:29 PM EST

    Ideology,

    Unfortunately, I am NOT surprised by our ignorance. We (used as a general term) have a tendency to be arrogant, almost like the world owes us, we don't have to do, know, speak like anyone else. The term the ugly American fits, alas.

    That's why all my extra reading. Trying to be sure I am not in that mold. However, learning another language (and I am going to try) is a little daunting to someone of my mature years! (And as a woman, I HATE admitting to mature years)

    • 2 votes
    #3.3 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST

    Watch the news in spanish 0-)

    • 2 votes
    #3.4 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:40 PM EST

    Well, I did try watching one of their "soaps". Wow! Very, um, exciting. However, when I use a self check out at the store one time I try Spanish, the next French. Actually, I am thinking of trying the Rosetta Stone that I see advertised. I want to learn 3 languages, Spanish, French and Italian.

    • 1 vote
    #3.5 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST

    After South Carolina Huntsman will have plenty of time on his hands. You could learn Mandarin.

      #3.6 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST

      Rob, the ability to learn Mandarin is admirable. It is a shame your party no longer finds admirable to be a quality.

      • 5 votes
      #3.7 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST

      Rob,

      The countries I wish to visit speak the languages I have listed. Why, except for the fact more knowledge is better, would I want to learn Mandarin. I plan on going to Spain, France and Italy. While I get speak a few words in each, I would like to be fluent. I don't plan on China. And I hope to retire to Roatan, Honduras where the Spanish will be very useful.

      • 2 votes
      #3.8 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:06 PM EST

      Phine ... I just image googled Roatan ... a no brainer, wow!

      • 1 vote
      #3.9 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:12 PM EST

      It is the perfect compromise spot for Mr. phinephancy & me. While loving Sardina, the mountains and people, it still gets cold there. Roatan has the feel of Sardina with the flavor of the Caribbean. Best of both worlds! (And closer for family to visit)

      • 1 vote
      #3.10 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:16 PM EST

      I didn't pick up on your travel plans. Just figured you were looking to learn another language. I have to say my travels are limited but a good friend of mine grew up in Honduras. One beautiful place from what I understand.

      • 2 votes
      #3.11 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:21 PM EST

      It is beautiful. And the people are extremely warm and friendly. The first time I saw it I fell in love. And FYI, it has a large ex-pat community of Americans and Canadians!

      • 1 vote
      #3.12 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST

      To all a good night. Time to finish my murder mystery and sleep!

      • 1 vote
      #3.13 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:32 PM EST
      Reply

      "I think it's sort of ironic for Republicans to be attacking each other on capitalism and the free-enterprise system, which is something our whole party is based on," Wilkins said.

      I thought the republican party was based on Fundamentalist Christianity

        Reply#4 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM EST

        Now most people understand clearly what capitalism is all about..

        It works hwen the money is plenty.

        It does not, when the money is tight, as it is know. So, rich do what Mitt did.. Thats ok.. for him. What about the 300 workers who got f**ked?

        Obama must be smiling; it wiull be much easier than he thought to win it again.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#5 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM EST
        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM EST

        Capitalism has NOTHING to do with taking over small profit corporations with hundreds if not thousands of employees, Down sizing immediately, selling off any assets, raiding the pension funds, and leaving entire communities devastated once everything is bled dry.

        The GOP can go easy on Romney if they want, But even an idiot like Perry and an arrogant greedy a_shole like Gingrich can see what he has done is FAR from ethical.

        Does anyone think Obama will go easy on him about being a corporate raiding job/community killer??

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:15 PM EST

        In the wild, the unhealthy animals who can't keep up get caught and eaten. They provide sustenance to the rest of the food chain. It's part of the cycle of life in the wild. It's the natural order of things. Your remains will become the energy for new growth.

        In a free economy, those businesses who can't keep up are doomed to failure, and they will fall by the wayside and be swallowed piece by piece by those who are stronger, faster, and better. Their remains will benefit the growth of new, smarter,stronger businesses, and those businesses will provide new jobs.

        Ever go to a commercial auction?

        What companies like Bain Capital do is catch those companies that are failing, swallow them up, glean as much profit as possible, and sometimes, if the basic business plan is viable, they inject capital and make once failing businesses into job machines and money makers, like they did with Staples and many others.

        You people who are criticizing this process have no understanding of the way a free economy works. You are embarrassing yourselves with your stupidity.

        Put your foolish ideology aside. Wake up and see the real world.There is no free lunch!!

        • 1 vote
        Reply#8 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:36 PM EST

        Welcome, Al Derosier, to the liberal/socialist mind set.

        In the libbie world, Companies don't exist to make a profit or to provide a good or service to it's customers. No, in their mind, companies are here to "provide" jobs to those that need them. The whole idea of a profit is somehow dirty and beneath them. In their minds, businesses are inherently evil. Big companies are especially evil due to their size.

        They can atone for their sins however, by "providing" as many jobs as possible, to those in need. Kind of like you would provide a kleenex to someone with a runny nose.

        This is their "understanding" of how a free market works. Reminds one of the old Soviet Union, where "profiteering" was a crime.

        • 1 vote
        #8.1 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:08 PM EST

        Except, Al D., we are human beings, not wild animals. We have the compassion and ability to care for others. And, tell me, once all the weak humans and companies are eaten up, then what? When there is only one or even a few companies left, who will buy the products? How does a society sustain and grow itself when there are no opportunities for new businesses because the few powerful companies have the ability to squash any competition. I do agree that poorly run businesses need to be taken over or fail. I do object to the favoritism in tax breaks, loopholes, etc. that favor larger corporations over small business. It's just not a fair and equal playing field. And look at the CEO's, owners, etc. who make millions and still run a company into the ground, at the expense of the company and the workers. That's just Capitlism at its greediest. Capitalism doesn't have to be greedy and cruel.

          #8.2 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:47 AM EST
          Reply

          The beauty of all this is that the president didn't have to bring it up. Had Obama brought this into play he would have been accused of attacking capitalism. Now it's fair game. It's a long way to November...wonder what else they can come up with? There is a big difference between capitalism and profiteering and sadly the GOP refuses to admit it.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#9 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST

          Still curious about Willard's tax returns. I bet 10 thousand bucks his effective tax rate is under 10%

          • 1 vote
          #9.1 - Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:13 PM EST
          Reply

          The Gospel of the Corporate God

          By Gerry Spence / Previous Corporate Lawyer who turned to helping the average person

          An eerie, fearsome religion has once again settled over America
          like an evil fog. It's not the worship of a dead prophet or of Gods flitting in
          the ether. This religion, always lurking in the shadows behind the struggle of
          ordinary citizens, is, as most religions, false. And, as most religions, it robs
          the people. Its principal dogma was stated in 1952 by Charles Erwin Wilson, then
          president of General Motor, when he said, "What's good for General Motors is
          good for the country." Its broader application, the theorem that has a bloody
          strangle hold on the people, on the environment, and yes, on the world, is
          what's good for the corporate God is good for Americans.

          One wonders how the people of this country can stand mutely by
          and watch our country that is owned by the corporate glob continually strike out
          against the struggle of workers for a wage that at least equals a wage paid in
          l978. How do we endure a congress that allows corporate moguls, the wealthy and
          the powerful, own its members, a congress that snubs its nose at citizens'
          rights for health care, that reapportions the wealth of the nation by tax cuts
          for the rich, that strikes out at a judicial system that should be dedicated to
          deliver justice to the injured, the maimed and the forgotten, a congress that is
          ready to give up the earth and her splendor of riches for the profit of oil
          companies and polluting manufacturers, and, indeed, a congress that is willing
          to sacrifice the integrity of this country and the lives of its youth to gain
          unresolved benefits in waging war as an aggressor? Like most responses assembled
          to explain the irrational conduct of man, the answer is a certain
          religion.

          The people believe. Believe. They elect representatives who
          believe. They endure all nature of hardship because of their beliefs. A taxi
          driver believes that if hungry mothers on welfare are deprived humane treatment
          the taxi driver will somehow benefit. His religion prevents him from
          understanding that for every penny of benefit he might receive by an inhumane
          abandonment of the poor, corporations scoop up billions in corporate welfare in
          the form of tax incentives, and subsidies that pillage the poor and middle
          class. Donald Barlett and James Steele wrote recently in Time Magazine that
          corporate welfare, [the nation's tithing to the church of corporate profit] is
          "a game in which governments large and small subsidize corporations large and
          small…." These reporters tell us that "the federal government alone shells out
          $125 billion a year in corporate welfare." which does not include what they call
          "a different kind of feeding frenzy that is taking place" at the state and local
          level where "politicians stumble over one another in the rush to arrange special
          deals for select corporations." All of this is in support of the religion that
          what is good for the corporate oligarchy is good for the people while such
          corporate welfare "eliminates rather than creates jobs." But the prevailing
          religion explains it all: Keep the faith. If the corporate hogs at the trough
          get fat, does it not follow that the people will somehow also
          benefit?

          Faced with a choice between their own welfare and that of the
          corporate God, the people stand in fear. Dare they speak out against this
          religion? Would they be seen as communists or un-American? Must they not blindly
          embrace the false doctrine that if the rich cannot get richer there will be no
          crumbs left under the table for them?

          Like all religions, the truth of doctrine must be accepted on
          faith. Facts are meaningless or if they are given attention, they become lost in
          arguments also based on faith. Workers who have loyally dedicated their lives to
          the religion discover that they are disposed of like dirty rags when they are no
          longer useful in the work place. The people, afraid to attack the church and its
          clergyæthe corporate owned mediaæsimply huddle in their faith and wait for the
          next corporate squeeze that will reduce even further their piddling wealth and
          their waning stature.

          The Democratic Party, too, has been captured by this false
          religion. It has become nothing more than the other side of the corporate mouth,
          its eyes closed like the proverbial monkey's that can see no evil nor speak
          none. In shame we see it with its head bowed and nodding in sycophantic
          concurrence, its emptied heart given over to the Gods of corporate profit.
          Democrats whine over why they have done so poorly. How, they ask, could the
          party that purports to represent the people be abandoned by the people? And how,
          pray tell, could the people so enthusiastically hug the party that all of these
          years has stood steadfastly for the rich, the powerful and the corporate power
          structure?

          The answer, of course, is that the people have finally come to
          see those at the heart of this religion as their new prophets. The wisdom of the
          times is to hate our fellow man and love the non-breathing, dead, corporate God,
          to distrust the worker who wants to join a union, to turn our backs on the poor,
          to cage the miscreants who are left with little other hope than that provided by
          crime, to throw up more prisons while we pay teachers less and erect fewer
          schools. We have come to believe that to build muti-billion dollar stadiums for
          rich team owners while our ghettos rot is just and American.

          What is the hope for America? Our children, and grandchildren
          cannot survive in a world where a false religion robs the poor, permits the
          corporate God to cheat its workers of their just dues and to steal their hard
          earned pensions while these criminals are tapped lightly on their lily white
          wrists. We cannot survive as a nation in a world that sees us, in the best
          corporate style, bulling our poorer neighbors with the treat of our power. That
          might is right is at the foundation of this religion. To survive, we must set
          aside the religion of corporate omnipotence and tell the truth for once. As one
          correspondent wrote with heretical courage, let us, "Stand up honestly and
          courageously for workers, consumers, voters, investors, people who breathe air
          and drink water and eat food. Do what's best for them. Big business can take
          care of itself."

            Reply#10 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:15 AM EST

            Fairly reliable: "Our children, and grandchildren
            cannot survive in a world where a false religion robs the poor, permits the
            corporate God to cheat its workers of their just dues"

            FIRST OF ALL, some of us believe in free enterprise and it's exactly what made this country great. You say "corporate God" and I say "government God".

            The govt. can take over our lives, take more and more of our hard earned money and decide what to do with it.

            One example: Recently the "government God" gave $500 million to a sinking Sloyndra at the tax payers expense. They are never accountable. The Democrats gave that money after they were told the company will go bankrupt. Obama says..."you win some and you lose some."

              #10.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:41 PM EST
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              Romney's doing a fine job all by himself. Insensitivity and callousness dwarf the reality of Romney's run based on his past dealings with Bain Capital. Romney's takeover-and-restructuring firm "apparently looted the companies, left people unemployed and walked off with millions of dollars." Romney points to thousands of jobs created at companies that Bain Capital bought, invested in or restructured. Sugar-coating past actions while screaming attacks on "Free Enterprise" has all the earmarks of Wall Street's" Gordon Gekko comment: "Greed is good." But he struck a discordant note Monday, just as attention to the Bain jobs history was spiking. Speaking of insurance options before a New Hampshire audience, Romney said, "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me." Romney repeated his claim that the Bain-run companies netted a total increase of 100,000 jobs, but studies by The Associated Press and other news organizations conclude that the claim doesn't withstand scrutiny. Like any venture capital company, Bain's main purpose was to generate profits for investors, not to create jobs. Romney saying. "Free enterprise will be on trial." plays on words at best, since Bain Capital main purpose was to generate profits for investors, including Romney. These fringe candidates, are out-of-touch and full of themselves still holding onto "Trickle Down Economics." Trickle down has yet to trickle down and in fact has afforded the top 1%-ers like Romney to get richer.

                Reply#11 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:46 AM EST

                Rudy: "Romney said, "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

                Aren't you being misleading on purpose?

                Romney meant that he likes having CHOICES. If a person or company is NOT doing a good job, you can choose to go somewhere else. That's what we all want.

                Romney meant that the govt, on the other hand, wants to take control of our medical insurance industry . With Obamacare, we wouldn't have the same choices of doctors or procedures anymore.

                  #11.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM EST
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                  Romney is the WEALTHIEST person ever to run for President. He could care less about the regular citizen living in the US. He is worried about the thinking/reading voters who are looking into his failure to release his tax returns, his Cayman Island (tax sheltered) accounts and his experiences with Bain Capital. He will always go to bat for his wealthy cronies but most likely will not give a rats a$$ about you and me and whatever our plight in life is. DO NOT vote for Mitt-bot Romney!

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                  Reply#12 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:23 PM EST

                  Suzq,

                  You mean that Mitt Romney is wealthier than Ross Perot??

                  Ross Perot was a Billionaire back when he ran. Is Mitt Romney a billionaire?? Or are you just assuming this??

                  Because it fits well in your liberal rants??

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                  Reply#13 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:54 PM EST

                  I think she means major party. In any case, I will be checking this through.

                    #13.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST

                    OK, a quick check reveals that there have indeed been Presidents richer than Mitt Romney (http://247wallst.com/2010/05/17/the-net-worth-of-the-american-presidents-washington-to-obama/2/), notably the first President, George Washington.

                      #13.2 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:30 PM EST

                      That said, Romney, if made President, would certainly be one of the richer ones.

                        #13.3 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:35 PM EST
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                        Wow, it's like they don't even try to hide the fact that their donors control them. I always knew that GOP politicians were simply puppets but they don't even try to hide it anymore.

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                        Reply#14 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:29 PM EST

                        You really think Obama's donor's don't hold his dance card. Solyndra, Fisker, General Motors, and countless others. The Democrats are every bit as bad as any Republican, but you keep drinking that Democratic Kool aid. We'll be adding up and discovering Obama's corruption for decades after he's finished with his one term.

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                        #14.1 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:23 PM EST
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                        Rick Perry, You need to take Romney out of the primary. Romney is the same book as Obama with a different cover. Obama gets his policies from the Romney Camp.

                        Vote for Romney or Obama if you want to be a slave in the New World Order, In the NWO we the people will lose all of our rights of freedom as citizens and become subjects(SLAVES) in the New World Order.

                        The truth will set you free and the lies will keep you on a ball and chain. You don't have anything to lose Rick and every thing to gain by exposing Romney's record of corruption and crime and the lies he tells.

                          Reply#15 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:40 AM EST

                          Rick Perry needs to take Romney out? He cant even take out the dog for cripes sake! He's just another bought and paid for politician that will tow the line....

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                          #15.1 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:12 PM EST
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                          It's amazing that Perry is censored for attacking Bain and not for recommending secession from USA

                            Reply#16 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:19 PM EST

                            I respect your post in a way, but Perry is a fruitcake, and I am skeptical of folks who support a religious nut that prays for rain.

                            Romney does not need any help, he is self destructing all by himself.

                            But just in case, go to Utah and do a test fit for some new age under-ware. Out with the old, in with the new (under-ware) religion and sets of religious laws. Romney's religion is the correct one, the rest of you are all wrong, heretic's. Get it together or god will rain frogs on ya. You saw what happened to Bachmann when she crossed God.

                              Reply#17 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:10 PM EST

                              Everybody, all together now, we must support the new Reich Fuhrer Mitt Romney, or else the Christian apocalypse will not occur.

                                Reply#18 - Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:55 PM EST

                                One Country under God, One people, and one Leader. Hail Mitt Romney. Our President for the next eight years.

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                                Reply#19 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:03 AM EST

                                Bain is the bane of the Republican Party. This issue is not going away.

                                Voters on the right, center and left largely understand the operation of the free-enterprise system, the beneficent working of Mr. Smith's "invisible hand".

                                The voters also understand the free enterprise system can be corrupted by vulture capitalists, corporate welfare bums, and bribe-bought special interest tax exemptions, as well as the more mundane transgressions of con men, embezzlers and greedy or incompetent executives.

                                The critical issue is the moral stature of Mr. Romney, not the role of the free enterprise system.

                                The Republican spinmeisters conflate Mr. Romney's behavior as a venture capitalist with the beneficial workings of the free enterprise system.

                                Neither Mr. Romney's Republican opponents nor the Democratic opposition will permit Mr. Romney to cloak himself as a purely beneficent capitalist.

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                                Reply#20 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:16 PM EST

                                Well said Croaker

                                  #20.1 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:55 PM EST
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                                  Well said Croaker

                                    Reply#21 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                                    Much as I dislike Perry, I think he is justified in bringing up the issues with Bain. I also think the following quote from the article sums up the Republican party, with the exception of the Evangelicals. How those two groups ended up in the same bed is beyond me.

                                    "I think it's sort of ironic for Republicans to be attacking each other on capitalism and the free-enterprise system, which is something our whole party is based on," Wilkins said.

                                    I'm for free enterprise but not when it is predicated on preying on the average citizen. This is why I am basically a liberal, even though I disagree with many liberal views. When I think of the forces behind the Republican party I think of serfdom for the have-nots, which is happening, and the Evangelicals trying to turn our country into a church state while under the the cloak of a party that espouses minimal government intrusion in personal lives.

                                    Having said all of that, I have no idea what to do in November. I believe that Obama has had to deal with the most obstructionist opposition party in modern times, yet I also feel he has serious shortcomings as a leader. Romney is there for the big corporations and to do what is to their advantage. Mormonism is kind of a joke if you bother to read about it's origins, but I think Mitt is not likely to be swayed overly much by religion, even one as materialistic as Mormonism. Since I'm an atheist, it doesn't matter to me which flavor of God you believe in other than I prefer one that doesn't dictate that the church has the right to control everyone.

                                    So, possibliy I won't vote for the first time in 40 years. I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils.

                                      Reply#22 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM EST

                                      What a waste of money! Perry will be lucky to keep his job as governor.

                                        Reply#23 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:39 PM EST

                                        Yeah Egilman maybe Obozo will use one of the batons his crew used at the polling polls. These are the morons who if they show up in 2012 will be bitched slapped. Also, it appears you are one of the unthinkums who may have voted for the worse disaster in voting history by sending the spender-in-chief to the throne. Talk about a real loser with no experience except with a teleprompter. How do you like the hope and change you got so far with this nut? Trying to understand how the brain works for people who love to be told how to run their lives and what light bulb they must buy makes a person wonder just how many stupid people we have roaming the streets in the good ole USA. You should be real proud to vote for a moron who thinks socialism is the way for our country. The loser who never held a postion of leadership in his life and gave you all the BS you sucked up in 2008. 2012 will bring the real hope and change and it won't be your idol Obozo! Most of the smart people would rather vote for a can of pepsi instead of the current loser in control of our country. Do You Get it! I doubt it!!

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                                        Reply#24 - Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST

                                        Say,

                                        Can anyone explain what's up with Obama's purple lips?? I thought my TV color was acting up, but no. They are actually purple. I have never seen this before, and I work with some black people. Any lip experts out there who can enlighten us??

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