THAT was assuming a level playing field. Why do Republicans hate the middle class? Why won't they protect the biggest earning field this country has?

That wont fly Kate as obama had a majority in both houses for the first two years.

obama had a majority for about 3 months.

Oops, wrong place!

3 months, damn you are uninformed, much like the rest of your fellow libs.

when kennedy left office the super majority was gone and the senate repubs have filibustered ever since. tell me im the one who is uninformed. you are the uninformed one or more likely you just dont know how our government works.

Super is the key word moron!

How many times was the filibuster used, 10, 15, 20, 50? Take your best shot!

over 120 times. a record amount for any congress in history.

Zero bills were filibustered, zero.

Then we must insist you show stats and studies, otherwise, shut up. Words are easy to type, hard to prove.

If you are Republican, and middle class, please tell me: What is the allure of your party? Is it strictly one social issue? Just what is it? What would make you think Romney, or any of the others, for that matter, "gets" what you are going through and will act in your interest?

I have yet to see Livingbarefoot post anything factual. Guess who is going on my mute list Kate.

I am still a Republican Kate, a moderate center left 1860s Lincoln republican. If the R.I.N.O.'s in power are hell bent on going over a cliff I have no intention of following them. I am a Republican to honor Abraham Lincoln nor am I the only one. I have no use for today's GOP.

Kate, I think the left hurts the middle class the most by choosing not to enforce our immigration laws.

Why do liberals hate the middle class? Since Obama took over unemployment has increased. It's averaged 9% since he was elected. Household incomes fell farther during the recovery than they did during the recession, proving Obama's cure was worse than the disease.

Middle class pipeline jobs? NO! Middle class gulf jobs? NO! Middle class Boeing jobs? NO!

p111, nothing you said is true. nmoone of it.

Wow and I guess the Broncos did not beat the Steelers either?

foot, no we lost. but none of what that guy said is true. the jobs package obama put forth was totally shot down by house repubs. learn how our government works. the president isnt all powerful. hes not like the CEO of a company. he has some powers but those mainly deal with national defense and being the CIC. the constistution was drawn up with checks and balances.

A leader knows how to work with others. You don't tell people to go to the back of the bus and then expect cooperation.

The man was an inexperienced crook who does not believe in the United States of America.

hes statement was, if they wont get on bored with us then they can go to the back of the bus. he tried over and over and over to work with them they didnt want to. the reason being if he fixed the economy right away it would have destroyed their party. it was and always will be about power and money to the right.

Why did the Republicans not back Obama's jobs bill that would have rebuilt our crumbling infrastructure...you know, those bridges that are falling down and roadways that are crumbling? This would have put people to work. But you Republicans have one objective in mind, no matter the cost to the American people. You want to defeat Obama. Well, instead, you are defeating Middle Class America. We pay your paychecks! (Ooooops....what? oh, we don't pay their paychecks? No? The corporations pay their paychecks? But...but, but, but...oh.... I see. Corporations are people, too! Oh, Okay. )

I just KNEW that would stop the thread. Jeesh. Anytime you introduce a bit of common sense, all the posters dry up!

That's your opinion, however; it was enough for the police to press charges untill holder steped in. Intimidation at polling stations is illegal in the USA no matter how you try to justify it.

KKK was a liberal democrat organization. Google Robert Byrd, a card carrying member. Google George Wallace for more liberal democrat racism, it was quite blatant in the 50's-60's.

And they hated that evil Republican MLk also.

p111 barefoot, those were conservative southern democrats who left and joined the repubs in the 60s. dont try to connect them with us fighting this fight with the same people nowadays. learn history before you spout off some beck bs.

Different GOP, different Dem's, then than now living barefoot. Just as the parties were different during the civil war.

That is an old lie. The left keeps repeating it until people believe it. I guess it works.

I am arguing with a person who has no knowledge of current events, let alone history. You really need to educate yourself, it is embarrassing.

hey foot i think you are the one uninformed or just ignorant of history.

Never seen one bit of proof to your claims, just the claims repeated and repeated. Some try and offer some proof, but it is easily debunked.

It is such a immature childish stance to think that people who are conservative are any more likely to be racist than others. It is a tactic used to get the mental midgets to follow you, I guess it works.

There is only an argument with yourself. I only pointed out a fact.

Facts. What was the vote record of the Civil Rights Act?

Also, after the Civil war, Republicans became racist and that persuaded MLK to join them?

either way foot, that has no bearing on today. the dems have a black president. the repubs will never even consider one. herman cain wasnt going anywhere. im sorry you are blind but its hard to argue with someone who is trying to tell me obama is bad because dems in the 1800s were racist. or that MLK was a republican. you sound crazy.

Never consider one and cain was a front runner. You make zero sense.

The D's keep their feet on the heads of minorities and get rich doing it. Hell, Obama let a felon screw poor people for a deal onb a bigger yard!

I am a huge MLK fan and he wanted everyone to enjoy the fruits of capitalism, not just a select old white few. Your party has no belief in the beauty and sanctity of capitalism, that is why I have no use for them.

It is the greatest equalizer in the world and when it is screwed with, things go bad.

Every financial problem in this country is due to the lack of true capitalism!

Sorry people, my point was that the black panthers, kkk, and the skinheads are nothing but parties of hate, and shouldn't be hanging out at ANY polling station on election days.

Sonmanub- Your point? LOL Did someone take your property? Call the police! My advise to you, quit listening to Beck, Lush and faux noise, because you are losing touch with reality!

Taking over GM, and giving a big chunk to the UAW and the government. That is the taking of property. Declaring wetlands without compensation is also taking of property.

"3. A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"

Anyone dare that isn't going on right now?

P111, you just made that crap up. Right out of thin air.

Taking over GM. Right. Good one. Also known as nonsense.

Giving a big chunk to the UAW. Right. Another good one. Also known as nonsense.

Wow. I know, I'll just listen to Faux News, Fat boy Rush, Glenn the Idiot and Sean "I'll say anything for dollars" Hannity and then I'll be well equipped to go on NewsVine and show those damn Liberals a thing or two, you bet.

Freaking laughable.

Obama in 2012, if only because folks like P111 beleive almost everything they hear.

Buck, he circumvented our bankruptcy laws and put the union in front of the rightful creditors.

Do you wilfully choose to remain ignorant? Or does it just fit your agenda?

I bet you even believe they paid back the loan because Obama said they did, don't you?

You're spouting propaganda, pure and simple.

The idea that the UAW got a "chunk" of GM is laughable.

I'll tell you, what, let's make a deal. You deal with real facts and I'll do my best to do the same.

Propaganda ain't a fact, it's propaganda.

Obama is doing what he has to do to destroy this country. Respect is earned not demanded.

The obstructionist lie was exposed the moment Obamacare was shoved down our throats, if they could pass that they could pass anything.

He failed his first two years so bad he was handed the worst defeat in 70 years. The economy has only started to recover since republicans blocked his insane agenda.

nothing obama has done has hurt this country. nothing. you can say it has because you dont like it but the economy is improving. housing is going up. jobs have increased for almost 2 yrs straight. the lies being told are lies. you can have your opinion. you cant have your own facts.

Sorry P111, Obamacare was passed by both houses of congress, just like our forefathers wanted.

You're bitching cuz you lost.

As for his worst defeat in 70 years, P111 is refering to the late great election of 2010. Well, that was then and this is now. Now, P111's TeaBagger Party enjoys about an 11% approval rating across the country.

Today P111's TeaBaggers couldn't get elected to shine the President's shoes.

Freaking laughable.

Obama in 2012, if only because P111 is so mad he just starts making sh*t up. Good for you, P111, after all, you live in the greatest country in the world...despite what your TeaBagger Party is trying to do to it.

Yawn!

And that is a one party only tactic? Grow up!

The man wants to transform our country, he needs to be obstructed!

We have the best foundation in the world and things go bad when they mess with it.

maybe if you wore shoes you would see things different.

He needs to be obstructed? And what do you think the GOP/TP have been doing for the last three years? No matter what the proposal was they obstructed to the point of wanting to close the government down, like they did with Clinton. Do I see a pattern here? I do of course, but you don't, well, you do but look the other way.

That's the constructive Repugnican way.

The difference is we did shut it down during Clinton and we left with a surplus. Does that bother you?

Our government living within its means is a problem to you?

Best things in life are done barefoot!

cow manure between your toes?

Maybe, but much better than you having it between your ears!

Not legal? What a joke.

Presidents from both parties have been doing this for over a hundred years. Clue in.

It's funny that Republicans start to bitch about it when it's Obama doing the appointing. It's as if Republicans don't have a freaking memory. Georgie Boy recessed appointed far, far more folks than Barry Boy, but now it's somehow against the law.

Freaking laughable.

Obama in 2012, if only because SouthernTeaBaggers won't vote for a Mormon. Ha.

I like you livingbarefoot, you inspire me to ensure that the GOP never holds the presidency again.

Yes, just like the right wing Supreme Court saw nothing wrong in "appointing" Bush to the presidency. Obama appointed just a man to do a job, Bush wanted war at any cost, even before being prez, and he got it.

Bush wanted war even before becoming prez? Where do you fools get this stuff?

Bush did the same. As did his Dad and Clinton

I got it from Bushes actions scottyusa. Bush, I am convinced saw the war as a chance to destroy the Democratic party once and for all. I hate GWB so much I never want to be within 500 miles of the man. He is a WAR criminal that should have been tried for his crimes. I am convinced he had a hand in staging 9-11. The man is a swaggering idiot who never should have been president.

Wade:

Go somewhere and take your ignorant azz to sleep. No one is trying to hear all of that BS. All you are doing is pimping your stupidity.

On the contrary, considering who Obama replaced, we all must confess that the president is doing a stellar job. He brought this country back from the abyss, right where George Bush left us, and now we are on the road to recovery.

Folks like Scottyusa hate that the president is doing well. They hate that unemployment is dropping.

Freaking laugable.

Obama in 2012, if only because the real joke around these parts is that at one time the Right looked to Rick Perry has theiry savior. Ha. Oh my.

People collecting unemployment benefits, or unemployment.

Both sides have been lying to us for years. Peoples benefits expiring makes the rate go lower, that does not mean they are employed.

Also, the left likes to claim that the R's are only for the 1% and the D's are for the worker. Let's say that's true.

Which party is failing at their job?

That's misleading.

Though someone's employment benefit expires, they remain registered and therefor counted as "unemployed." These numbers are not soley based on who's collecting benefits and who is not.

So...basically your assertion is wrong. Cheers.

Buck

Maybe you need to do some research.

Founded in 1866, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party's Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for blacks. Its members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s. After a period of decline, white Protestant nativist groups revived the Klan in the early 20th century, burning crosses and staging rallies, parades and marches denouncing immigrants, Catholics, Jews, blacks and organized labor. The civil rights movement of the 1960s also saw a surge of Ku Klux Klan activity, including bombings of black schools and churches and violence against black and white activists in the South.

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

Then there is this if you don't like those facts.

The Democratic Party’s war against African-Americans continued after the Civil War (which many Democrats in fact opposed, often working actively to undercut the Union war effort). Democrats, both north and south fought the attempt to implement the equality for African-Americans gained at such a high cost. This opposition was often violent. Indeed, the Ku Klux Klan operated as the de facto terrorist arm of the national Democratic Party during Reconstruction.

Democrats defeated Reconstruction in the end and on its ruins created Jim Crow. Democratic liberalism did not extend to issue of race. Woodrow Wilson was the quintessential "liberal racist," a species of Democrat that later included the likes of William Fulbright of Arkansas, Sam Ervin of North Carolina, and Albert Gore, father of Al, of Tennessee.

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/owens/02/racism.html

I you need more just Google KKK and Democrats or History of KKK

Guess who was a Southern Democrat before before he became a Republican Slodon, don't want to guess? Strom Thurmond. I will not deny that the KKK was born in fertile grounds left by the Southern Democrats after the civil war. It is a matter of public record. But you are leaving out important points. In 1860 the Southern Democrats behaved the same way the GOP is behaving now.

Nor is that a coinsidence. The Republicans of the time were liberal, or moderate, none more so than Abraham Lincoln. The southern Democrats controlled the south during the Civil War. Afterwards the KKK formed to force free black men and women into a kind of social slave status. 95 years later many Southern Democrats left the Democratic Party to join the GOP and they took their conservative attitudes with them. What happened in effect was a hostile take over of the GOP by southern conservatives in the the 1970s.

Let me be perfectly clear here.

1860's Republican Party, moderate to liberal. Southern Democrats, very conservative, proslavery, very much states rights, extremely fertile ground for the formation of the KKK.

2012's Republican Party, those in power are conservative and trying to strip everyone who disagrees with them of the right to vote, and their personal liberty favoring the very rich.

The Democratic party has flipped on it axis too. It stands for everything the GOP stood for under Lincoln.

If the Republicans of 1860 had the same mind set that the GOP in power has today, the civil war would NEVER have been fought. I could still go down town in Tampa and buy a slave to do my housework etc. I recommend watching the movie C.S.A. I am glad to be an old guard Republican with an 1860s mindset.

Consider me to be a R.I.N.O? If you are goosestepping with todays GOP I consider you to be a R.I.N.O. too. Ponder this while you are at it. I am not the only Republican who feels as I do. How many of us do you think will be voting Straight Democratic tickets like I will be? For the record I do not like abortion, I do not feel it should be the primary birth control method, but I will not stand in the way of a woman getting an abortion. I expect to have the company of prochoice GOP women who do not want to go back to the days of coat hanger abortions that killed so many women. I expect to have the company of independents like myself who see what the GOP has planned for our country as a step back in time to a brutal era.

I expect to be slammed for this post. However if you feel as I do and you are a center left moderate to liberal I ask that you stand with me now whether you are a Democrat, or like myself an independent Republican.

Slodon, I hope this finds you well.

You're a smart guy so I'll get to the point. I know my history, as do you.

With that said, my main point, in fact my only point, was that the KKK was most certainly not a liberal organization. It matters not that they were Democrats, they weren't liberals. George Wallace was certainly not a liberal. A Democrat yes, but he was no liberal.

Slodon, the poster equates Democrat with Liberal. Perhaps that argument can be made today, depends on the context. It most certainly cannot be made about Democrats of 100 plus years ago. That's not me talking, that's history.

C'mon, George Wallace a liberal?

Slodon, I'm sure you were protesting just as strongly when George W. Bush made recessed appointments.

Ronald Reagan practically made recessed appointments an art form.

Obama in 2012, if only because the Right is turning to Mitt Romney, a man who consistently enjoys a whopping 25% approval rating.

luvenia

Your 'Facts just facts' ring hollow when you use a source like newsjunkiepost.com

I think you would be better served if you widened your horizons and sources.

Easily solved! Vote for Obama

If the Republicans can justify Romney as a defender of the working class and not just a multi millionaire and a corporate raider, I would like to hear how they can do it. So far, Romney has had nothing to offer the country. He has been well financed by the ultra rich who stand to gain but he is not pushing any kind of policy that is intended to benefit anyone but the few who back him. All this commie socialist bull that the right is spewing against the Obama and the Dems is just that, bull. What are the Republicans offering the country that will actually benefit the country? Going back to Bush Cheney policies is not a good idea because those failed policies are what got us in the mess in the first place. All you fools who are not millionaires but support those whose policies will not even benefit you, what in the hell are you doing? I think that the real class envy comes from middle class and upper middle class Republicans who will never be in Mitt Romney's status but live on the hope and dream of gaining a piece of it. It never happens that way when the scheme is a pyramid scheme and is skewed to benefit the few at the top as it is now with corporate owning the Congress and buying the leadership in the country. You are fools.

We need protection from the greed and corruption that is backing Mitt Romney and his policies. We need protection from the bought Congress who is not doing the bidding of the voters who voted them into office. We need to be protected from the very real corruption that will drain even more from the country as Wall Street did under Bush Cheney.

Why don't the Republicans, who want to accuse Obama of this and that, ask Romney to show his tax returns? Maybe they would finally realize that what their party is about is a double standard. Middle class pays somewhere around 28% and Mittens pays what? 15% or less? Same thing with the recess appointments. The Republicans abuse the system and block appointments all day long and appoint more while Congress is in recess then anyone but squeal like stuck pigs when a Dems beats them at their own game. Why do the Republicans not push for getting the work of the people done while their Representatives are in session? Why are the Republicans not demanding to know what tax rate those who so want to protect the wealthy are paying as compared to the tax rates that the majority of us out here are paying? Are you hypocrites?