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FORT MILL, S.C. -- In his most searing criticism to date of the Republican frontrunner, Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday described companies like Gov. Mitt Romney's former firm Bain Capital as a "vultures" that eat the "carcasses" of struggling businesses.
"They’re vultures sitting out there on the tree limb waiting for the company to get sick," Perry said of private equity firms during remarks to an assisted living community in northeastern South Carolina. "And then they swoop in, they eat the carcass, they leave with that and they leave the skeleton.”
The attacks on Romney and Bain have been ratcheted up, as candidates fight for political survival in this Republican nomination fight that could soon be effectively over if Romney pulls off a significant New Hampshire win and then follows it up with one in South Carolina.
In language that could perhaps fall on sympathetic ears of Occupy Wall Street protestors, Perry derided Bain for its involvement in the restructuring of two South Carolina companies that he claims resulted in heavy job losses in the region.
"Mitt Romney was the head of Bain Capital when that was happening," he said. "And it’s that mentality of making money against all other considerations."
Perry later confirmed to reporters that the "vulture" metaphor specifically referred to Bain Capital, adding that such firms stretch the limit of free market principles.
"We have allowed these greedy people on Wall Street to take advantage of small companies that may be going through some tough times," he said at a press conference Tuesday. "And instead of trying to work with them to find a way to keep the jobs and get them back on their feet it's all about how much money can we make, how quick can we make it and then get out of town and find the next carcass to feed upon."
The Texas governor, who has struck populist tones throughout his presidential run, said that Romney's history at Bain will be examined by voters in the days after today's New Hampshire primary, where Romney is expected to win by a wide margin.
"When you look at all the jobs that they destroyed by this going in and restructuring these companies, taking their big management fees and then the people whose jobs have been pitched over the side, I think that's an assessment that hasn't been done yet," he said. "And I think it's going to happen over the course of the next week."
On Tuesday, Perry also accused the current administration of mutual back-scratching with big business interests, noting that the White House's last three chiefs of staff have been tied to Wall Street firms.
"You don't think there's a little bit of inside dealing going on there? That their buddies on Wall Street aren't calling em up and saying 'hey how about let's not be quite that tough on those of us on Wall Street," he said. "We're just good old boys out here trying to make a buck'?"
So far, Perry's critiques of rivals have failed to gain traction; millions of dollars spent on Iowa ads labeling them "insiders" earned him only a fifth-place finish in the January 3rd caucuses. His campaign hopes that a state that prides itself on "picking presidents" and defying conventional wisdom will give Perry a desperately-needed boost.
Perry would not answer questions Tuesday about what anything other than a win here in South Carolina would mean for the future of his campaign. "Our intention is to win. And I can't tell you anything other than that," he said.
But, defying the obvious Texas historical metaphor for a man making his last stand in the face of almost certain defeat, Perry said that his last-ditch campaign swing in South Carolina is less like the famed slaughter of revolutionaries in 1836 and more like the triumphant final battle that ultimately won the region its independence from Mexico.
"This isn't our Alamo," he told the audience in Fort Mill. "It's our San Jacinto."
NBC's Ali Weinberg contributed to this report.
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Willard is serving up a heaping helping of 'carrion comfort' these days to his rivals!
Voting Republican is akin to a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders!
Well, heck Feisty, I needed that coffee that is now on my monitor!!! LOL
Oh crap, it must be cold day in hell. I agree 100% with something Perry says.
RedDevPS... you beat me to it! lol
Let me see if I have this right:
In the wake of a global financial crisis brought on by Wall Street fat cats the Republican Party is set to nominate a "vulture capitalist" that made millions firing people and sending their jobs overseas. This happens in a time of high unemployment and record inequality. To complicate matters the current iteration of the GOP relies heavily on evangelical Christian votes and the vulture capitalist the Republicans are set to nominate is a Mormon, a religion many evangelicals consider a cult.
Also too, the Mormon vulture capitalist in question is about as likable as the herpes virus.
GBMamma - I just remembered it was a full moon last night. Hopefully Hell is still hot, and the moon is the culprit.
nisl
You put it much better than I could.
And, it's stunning to me, as a Democrat, to see one Repulican saying this stuff about another, especially an establishment frontruner, with all the Bush, Haley, and Christie endorsements Romney's got. The true conservatives just hate him.
Hell is wherever it is cold ... I am living there right now.
We have two seasons in Canada ... Winter and July.
Ideology - We have two seasons in Canada ... Winter and July
Now now, I've driven through Canada many times. The two seasons, per my travels, are "Winter" and "Road Construction."
Permafrost!
nisl, in Quebec we are spending fortunes on new infrastructure creating thousands of new jobs ... our sales tax just went up an extra 1% and no one complained.
Ideology---here in western Pa. and also in the Philadelphia area, we pay an extra 1% in sales tax to fund sports and arts. So our public stadia were financed through this sales tax and it also supports arts groups which make application for grants. I'd just as soon not pay an extra 1% but I also recognize that sports and the arts create jobs and enhance the life in a region.
Steeler - I haven't been through Philly since the days of the Broadstreet Bullies.
How's the town doing?
I promise, ideology, not to tell you it is 75 here in NE Florida.
And, sadly, the state is talking about raising taxes on alcohol consumption here. They are losing money from the cigarette taxes since everyone is quitting.
@ideologyspoilstheview
And where does the money come from originally to pay the 1% that is funding the construction? Could it be that because Canada has a small population (relatively) and large amounts of natural resources that your basically extracting all that can be dug and drilled to pay for your infrastructure?
I seem to remember that Canadian companies are having a bit of a bad streak. (Nextel, JDSU, RIM), although I do like Tim Horton coffee, and the banks are doing pretty well.
GO Devils!
or as we call them, Obama's inner circle
Amy Portland I agree. I wondered what the GOP responders thought about this on FT. Received no responses.
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I think that taking Mitt's quote out of context is wrong - "I like being able to fire people who provide me services..." It is wrong to quote out of context, but who said politics is fair.
What does interest me is that these Republican rivals are attacking Romney for acting like a pure capitalist. Does it shock either of you that a GOP, like Huntsman or Gingrich would object to Romney's private sector corporate raiding?
For me it is a practice that a liberal would object to but a conservative would view as business as usual. Regarding GOP dogma, will Gingrich or other GOP rivals criticizing Romney be seen as hypocritical for going against what a private business should or shouldn't do?
Alan ... Canada has barely scratched the surface where it comes to resources. I was talking of Quebec and our natural resource is water hence electricity.
Our effective sales tax is 14.95% GST+PST ... imagine what NJ could do with that. Oh and plus we get full medical coverage.
If the Devils are playing the Habs tonight ... Devils will win.
Go easy on those so called "fat cats" nisl. Obama will be in Chicago tomorrow night fund raising from the very same. "Fat cats" are people too nisl. They have feelings. It is a certainty they want to feel Obama's love towards them, in the form of tax breaks, healthcare waivers, loop holes, and the ignoring of certain regulations.
Buy some f...ing streetlights would be a start.
One thing I would say is that when the comparisons of tax rates around the (western) world are made. The US tax rate is lower because we don't include healthcare. If you added in the cost of premiums the tax rates are pretty much comparable.
Did see the Devils play at the old Forum. 3-3 when the Habs were good but Marty was at his peak.
ideology -
Steeler Fan's actually from the other end of the state - Philly's more my turf and I had season tickets back in the Broad Street Bullies days. Not much has changed - though this being a political blog and all, I thought you might appreciate this article from a year or so ago about some of them becoming U.S. citizens:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5503997
My favorite part:
"For Kindrachuk and Schultz, a main motivation was wanting to vote.
"I've never voted in my life. I've never seen a voting booth," Schultz said.
"I guess I'm going to vote. Hopefully by this November, I'll be able to
vote."
Added Kindrachuk: "I do read and pay attention to politics. It's hard to give
your comment on it when you can't vote."
Not that that stops many of the comments that appear here - half of which I'm convinced come from people who also have never seen a voting booth.....
I liken Rick Perry to Gomer Pyle and Paul Lynde!! Hey that's a scary combo, huh??
It would be interesting to see where these republican candidate stand on the republican proposal to eliminate unemployment for workers without a high school diploma. The cold-hearted mean-spirited party just continues to trample all over fellow Americans.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/09/10075106-gop-plan-no-hs-diploma-no-unemployment-check
TO: nisl who wrote:
Correct.
LMAO!
According to Obama there are 800,000 non essential Federal employees
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/06/news/economy/federal_workers_shutdown/index.htm
Why doesn't he fire them tomorrow to halve the deficit like he promised?
Madison From NY, if you would stop listening to the hate radio nincompoops you would know that during the Obama Administration that there are fewer federal employees than there were when he took office. There are likely to be more.
Shame on Romney for not being honest about laying off Americans and moving jobs overseas.
Here's a quote from Bain's web site...
"We help clients ensure that IT offshoring and outsourcing decisions are based on business strategy and help set up deal structures, capability networks and sourcing agreements to deliver enduring results -- lower costs now and flexibility for the future.
Strategic sourcing is the process by which organizations determine how to access the right IT and business capability at the right cost. Sourcing must be managed effectively across the four key dimensions of management, resources, services and business processes.
Outsourcing of IT or business processes is just one option of sourcing strategies, often unleashing tremendous value. With strategic sourcing, Bain can enable clients to ensure sourcing decisions are based on business strategy and to help set up sourcing agreements to deliver value now and flexibility for the future."
Umm, Madison? If you follow the links in your own article, you'll get to:
"Which services would stop? During the last major shutdowns in the
final days of 1995 and early 1996, the government closed 368 National Park
Service sites, along with national museums and monuments.
In addition, 200,000 passport applications went unprocessed and toxic waste
cleanup work at 609 sites stopped. The National Institutes of Health stopped
accepting new clinical research patients and services for veterans, including
health care, were curtailed.
Work on bankruptcy cases could slow. In the last shutdown, more than 3,500
cases were delayed."
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/news/economy/shutdown_faq/index.htm?iid=EL
So basically, you're okay with closing all the national parks, monuments and museums (including the Smithsonian) permanently, stopping cleanup work at toxic waste sites permanently, and cutting services for veterans permanently?
Why am I not surprised? Hey, by the way - welcome back - where you been?
GM fired thousand of employees close Pontiac, Saturn and Oldsmobile, close thousand of dealers , sending people to the unemployment lines, all under the watch and ok of Obama and his Car Czar, but you didn't say a word. You have nothingt say about Romney because those are the things you need to do in order to save the whole Company.
But the remaining business was left open and viable. Romney did not save companies, he slaughtered them.
Here we go again with conservative flat out lies.
Saturn was sold off. Oldsmobile was closed long before Obama was president. Dealers were reduced from 5,900 to 5,000.
GM was going bankrupt long before Obama took office. Obama stepped in at the request OF GM and saved them from annihilation.
Get your facts straight, and quit Palin-izing (twisting) history to meet your made narrative.
This is the problem with "I identify with you politics". It can be over reaching sometimes and Romney is getting burnt for it. You can't fake it if it's not real.
Everything bad fits this Bain ventures in today' American economic climate. Infact, Bain Capital epitomize wall street greed and why "corporation are no people".
And this is still January........wait for Obama's hell kitchen. Bain Capital, Romney pride, is the albatross that will nail him.
I only wonder why they waited so long to drag out the big guns. The NYTimes has covered TwoBit Mitt and Bain Capital numerous times and got little traction. Why wait until the outcome verges on inevitable?
The real Hoot is if we ever get to see TwoBit Mitt's tax returns and notice that he pays no income tax.
Newt and now Perry have exposed themselves to be of the moonbat mentality.
Who knew???
Newt and Perry are big idiots with a giant indestructable E G O
ROTFL....
Gee, your tea/gop candidates get around to validating/repeating what Dems have been saying for months and you don't know how to act...
reality bites
and truth hurts, doesn't it...
I liked Perry's line yesterday when he said that of course Romney was worried about pink slips---he was worried he might not have enough of them for everyone he wanted to fire.
SF - Touche!
"Vulture Capitalism" is now the "Bain" of Mitt's existence...
Potentially Setting up a PPV "steel cage" match in November;
Crony Capitalism vs Vulture Capitalism...
"Every way you look at it you lose"...Joe DiMaggio? Where'd you go?
That would play on the Cynical Channel and there are not enough of us to affect the outcome either way.
85% here don't GET the Cynical Channel...in every sense of the term...
A November debate moderated by Mencken and Diogenes ... I would not care what the price of admission was.
Romney is in denial - almost like when all the sexual harrassment stuff came out about Herman Cain and he thought he could side-step it. I'm not sure Republicans will wise up to this, though, because they consistently vote against their own interests.
I'm sensing that Perry didn't get the memo he's on Team Slick now.
Which suggests someone other than Romney placed that call the morning after Iowa. Maybe someone from the RNC? What would they have to offer Perry? Maybe inside track to the position of party establishment candidate should Romney lose this November.
I'm not quite sure what all the hub bub is about concerning Mitt's "I like to fire people" comment. Even if it wasn't taken out of context. It amazes me that with such an unemployment issue in this country how many employed individuals don't step up and deliver for their employer as they should.
Whether the hospitality industry, retail, or healthcare take note of how many people actually bash the company they work for right in front of the customer. Successful enterprises do not tolerate that type of disloyalty. So firing people is an absolute necessity in business. Set the expectations, train the staff, reward/recognize good performance and discipline them for noncompliance. After giving them a fair shot then fire them. Really, what is the big deal here? Most of these folks that think they have a gripe with Bain Capital went on strike or held the company hostage for a wage and benefit structure that the company couldn't sustain. Greed is a human condition at all levels of society. In the liberal mind greed only exists among the wealthy - wrong.
Bottom line though is if you work against the company's interest you DESERVE to be FIRED. And personally as an employer at times enjoy firing people. Not all the time. If I terminate a staff member for operational needs that of course is very difficult. But guess what if you tried purposefully to screw up my operations reputation, you bet I will enjoy firing your sorry azz.
I have to agree. Many employees spend more time complaining and bashing than actually doing the work that they are paid for. And seriously damaging the ability of other workers to go about their business, because we all have to listen to their whining and ranting.
I wonder sue and rob, if you have the guts to make those statements at work to your coworkers.
I bet not, but if you do, could you please print lists of those who agree with you and are willing to say so publicly.
Not just vultures but those damn ugly turkey vultures that just disgust all that see them picking at the flesh of some other creature. This class of Christian Conservative Social Tea Party Republicans lacks just that CLASS. They would not hesitate to eat their own in a second, pick at each others rotting flesh all in the hopes of taking us to a place we have been to before under the last one of their ilk George W. They peck at each other's eyes and gorge themselves on any money they receive be it directly or through the irony of those super pacs they all wanted so badly until they got them. Satan's spawns all of them be it the Catholic, or the Mormonor whatever Ron Paul professes to be they are all cannibalistic carrion eating creeps. The only one that might deserve a moments consideration is Huntsman who has a more delicate palate than the rest. He takes small bites and chews.
This is beautiful. Like reading fine poetry.
Republicans are reaping what they sow, character assassination instead of substance and ideas.
Where is the media investigating the performance of Bain Capital and Romney's job creation claims? Where is the skepticism?
First of all the media won't bother. To do so would open the media to dig into Obama's $800 billion "Stimulus" boondoggle. We'd all like to see the performance numbers on that train wreck.
Second, the media doesn't understand any of it. They only know "This pol said this, and that pol said that." These people went to Journalism school, they never took an economics course beyond Econ 101. They haven't a clue.
JSA1 - You are the one who's clueless. Ask those families the were cannibalized by Bain Capital. Free enterprise right?
Steeler, the media are looking into it, even one of our papers the National Post delved into the story a few days ago. SEC filings are little to no help as the bulk of insider trading at Bain is on the sell side and not the buy side which would raise a few red flags. Expect to see more interviews with former employees in the near future
NoJo ... list the fine poets you read. Ezra Pound?
From the clueless, we go next to PEN.
Do you understand how capitalism works PEN? Obviously not. You see PEN, most companies aren't like GM and Solyndra, they can't expect the government to bail them out and prop up their bottom line. Instead, they have to be innovative and economically sound to survive. To do so they have to constantly manager their workforce to produce the best product and/or service at the best price in order to maintain their competitiveness. Places like Bain Capital help those companies manage that process.
Now PEN, it's quite clear you don't have a business or manage any people. You obviously believe that workers have a right to their job, and are entitled to have that job all their lives. Well PEN, that's not how the real world works. To have a company not innovative and not manage the workforce while the companies competitors are doing so would cause the death of that company.
I hope you now have a better understanding of the business process PEN. Some how though, in your case, I believe the seeds of knowledge are falling on infertile ground.
JoannaSmith1:
The 800 billion stimulus was 250 billion in tax cuts, 250 billion in gifts to state governments that were broke and in danger of bankruptcy, 150 - 200 billion in construction on roads, bridges, rail, etc. and 100 billion in various other stimulus ideas (some of which may not have been that beneficial). However, the bottom line is that any President taking office with the economy losing 700,000 to 800,000 jobs every month would have tried something similar. Even the Republicans wanted a 400 to 500 billion stimulus. So quit being ridiculous. Nobody takes office in a mini-depression and says the business cycle will rebound so government doesn't need to do anything. Although Obama probably should have just let the state governments go bankrupt. All these Republican governors that had their bacon saved by the federal government continue to talk their stupid tax cut crap. They will keep their states in panic mode. They lie about their budgets and lie that more revenue comes in when taxpayers pay a lower rate (which is very false in the aggregate). So people just don't learn.
JoNo of course has nothing to say about federal bailouts for both Bain and various firms that were under it's stewardship.
Show me the poets NoJo.
Below is a link to Obama's projected job growth for "Stimulus I". He used this projection as a argument to have Congress approve the spending. Note where we should be at this time. Yeah, not even close.
http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/06/07/romer-bernstein-unemployment-chart-updated/
So quit making excuses.
NoJo isn't posting on this thread istv.
Dipping into daddy's "special" cabinet already istv? Kind of early isn't it?
JoJo ... NoJo ... sorry gal, I see little to differentiate between the two of you.
En oino álétheia
No problem Feisty.
I have read analyses of the stimulus--most of which say it worked, although it wasn't enough. I have not read any analysis of Romney's claim of net job creation and how it was arrived at. I understand that most of the media are not economics specialists, but there are enough business reporters out there that someone could have undertaken this investigation.
JoJo, you actually made me laugh ... but seriously now, list the poets you read?
@ Pen on the other side you might want to ask those families whose jobs were saved at companies like Staples, Taleo, etc... I have been on both sides of this (losing my job and having my job saved). Until shareholders stop expecting positive EPS, companies are going to expect top performance with minimal investment and staff. I would venture to guess a lot of the posters on here have investments in major companies and expect dividends on your investments. Not saying this is the way it should be but this is the way it is in the world today.
Still waiting for "transparency in government" , substance and character from our present administration. Grandiose "I have a Dream" type of speeches, but very little in practical application to make it a reality. And what has been done has been premised on mortgaging our children and grandchildren's futures to other nations. Instead of considering these problems the province of one political ideology or another, instead of considering failures as the fault of the other side, instead of using any coincidental improvement as justification for what is inherently wrong, why can't we all agree that our governmental system stopped being about the people, by the people and for the people a very long time ago. The only persons our government and elected officials serve is themselves.
New York Times has had several articles an Bain Capital. Folks complain about the "lame stream" media, but don't read the papers that invest in investigative reporting.
My only disagreement with Perry's vulture comment is that not all of the companies that Mitt dissected were carrion meat. Some were healthy companies that Willard just cannibalised into new "more lean" entities. In the new uber capitalism, head counters want at all costs to limit the number of employees to that absolute minimum. That means that those that remain are overworked and those that have a life outside of the workplace are picked off by the vultures. In our new economy, with the likes of Willard in the vanguard, workers must give their all for $9 to $12 an hour and be ready to work overtime or take work home. And every time there is a merger or a bankuptcy reorganization, departments are combined and there are hundreds of layoffs. While that may be the truth of the business world, I don't see how a business leader with Willard's orientation has the concern needed to convert a jobless recovery with high corporate profits into a recovery where businesses can be persauded to hire more ( and pay for healthcare). His orientation is to screw the workers and take home more profit!
You know, our grandparents worked those 10-12 hour days, and were grateful for the work, and grateful for the things that the work allowed them to give their families. Since when did we, as a nation, develop the notion, that we determine what is of value to an employer (the one who is actually giving us money and benefits) I am not happy with not receiving raises and bonuses, but sometimes I wonder if the company's ability to thrive is hurt by all the people who will only exert themselves so far. For the sake of argument, could we be contributing to our own dissatisfaction by not offering our best to our job? If it were your own company, how would you feel about people refusing a task because it took extra time? How would you feel about somebody who intentionally contributed less because they were feeling that they were being shorted? Everyone has a different definition of fair, so why should the guy who feels shorted work less, contribute less, accomplish less, and still get paid the same as somebody who does more?
Sue, unless YOUR grandparents were masochists, they worked FOR workers rights.
And do the rest of you hear this ARISTOCRATIC nonsense sue is advocating, that us SERFS should tug our forelocks and bend our KNEES to our capitalist overlords? THIS IS WHAT YOU BELIEVE SUE??? And you are willing to work like a DOG for the top people? Haven't you paid attention, corporate america is sitting on SIX TRILLION DOLLARS IN CASH. SIX TRILLION, that's more than a THIRD of the TOTAL YEARLY GDP of the US. AND, they are having RECORD PROFITS. AND, they pay NO TAXES, and their investors pay on average 18% in taxes on what they get.
So if YOU want to make scumbags like romney rich, that's your problem. Most of us want OUR FAIR SHARE of the WEALTH WE ARE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY MAKING.
BeyondDemocrat - for example
Two words: Weyerhaeuser Company
I tired of members of the media giving Romney a pass on his "I like to fire people who serve me." comment. Regardless of whether he was talking about switching insurance companies if he's dissatisfied (as if another health insurance company would be a measurable improvement), he's still said he "likes" to take action that will negatively affect other peoples jobs. Mitt "Corporations are people too" seems to forget that when you cancel service (be it cell phone, auto/health insurance), it affects real people employed by the company. Yesterday I dropped my kids from my cell plan, because since January 2nd they've had I-phones and my cell phone company doesn't provide service for the I-phone. I didn't feel good, and didn't like dropping the cell lines, and even delayed it a week before canceling the lines. Most people don't enjoy "firing" people, or a service company. Mitt is not normal!
You have obviously never run a business. If you had, if you had any clue how the real world works, then you'd know that when someone who is providing a product or a service to your business is doing a crappy job, IT'S A GOOD THING TO BE ABLE TO FIRE THEM AND HIRE SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL DO A BETTER JOB!!!! That's called "the free market" and it WORKS!!!
Like the typical boneheaded liberal, you conveniently forget the other side of the equation, which is that when companies do a GOOD job they can grow and hire more workers, probably those that were let go by the company whose contract you cancelled!
Part of the reason that millions of jobs in industries like autos, textiles and steel have left this country for good is that they were hamstrung by greedy, lazy, beligerent unions who made it impossible to fire people who were NOT doing a good job. The same sorry state of affairs exists in our public schools today, thanks to the effing teachers unions.
Being able to fire people is a GOOD THING!!!!!
Danram: And a short list of the reasons those industries left and/or why they fire US employees include:
Gee, firing people is good because of all these evil things that can be avoided, right?
Listen to your own children. Listen to the occupiers. Listen to the people making a living from welfare. When work is suggested, the response comes in terms like "demeaning", "belittling", "oppression". A fact of life is work to earn your necessities, and if you become extremely good at your work, extremely efficient, then perhaps your income will stretch beyond just necessities. We have created an instant society. Our children expect to have what it may have taken a quarter century or more for their parents to achieve. While my generation did their time in lowly, low paying starter jobs, the present generation expects their salaries upon leaving school to match or exceed their parents. Our youth oriented culture hasn't done a whole lot to moderate this. In my own experience, companies hire inexperienced, untried people into management positions to give their company "a youthful attitude and appeal" People who have worked hard to make the company what it is, are never tapped for promotion, but allowed to sit in the backwater and continue to "produce".
Wow, Sue, what's your problem with young people?
@Amy As someone who has to hire and train a lot of new college graduates I can tell you she has a valid point. The work ethic is not the same with this current generation as previous generations. I have had employees whose parents have done so much for them they do not know how to work on their own. I know this is a generalization but the sad fact is there are more slackers than there are go getters. I had one young women of 24 have her mother call me because she thought I gave her an unfair appraisal. To say the least I was astounded.
Our parents said the same thing about us''''''''''''''
Our parents said the same thing about us''''''''''''''
Sorry B. Sheperd to disagree with you. I would have never asked my mom or dad to call my work and talk to my boss at 24 years old. Parents today don't want their children to even have a part time job in high school. A lot of these kids have become professional college students and never had a job.
Sue, your demeaning of people who are out of work is unbelievable. I have a friend who has been looking for a job for over two years and would take anything but the work hasn't been there. There are over 100,000 homeless and jobless vets who would do anything to get a job but the jobs aren't there. How dare you talk about things you know nothing about. How dare you give those looking for jobs YOUR mentality!
Hell, sue thinks capitalists are BETTER than the rest of us and that we serfs should lick their boots in thanks for the crumbs they throw us.
How can you argue intelligently with someone who has that LITTLE respect for working people?
The real irony is that TwoBit Mitt was preaching about the straight jacket the Affordable Health Care Act will impose on our freedom to choose medical providers. His fabrication ignores the fact that virtually all mainstream health insurers have "networks" you have to use or pay big bucks out of pocket. We don't have freedom of choice now unless you are on medicare.
The constraints a patient will face under the Affordable Health Care Act will be the ones imposed by the private insurance company that the patient (or his/her employer) chooses based on cost and convenience.
His notion that we will have socialized medicine is nonsense and he knows it.
BTW Did you notice that Ricky Santorum got paid $200k for chairing United Health Care board meetings? How do you suppose the health insurers will fare if Ricky gets into the administration? Is he hoping for a Health and Human Services cabinet post in a TwoBit Mitt administration?
romney is one of the dirt bags that caused the mess were in, anyone who votes for that piece of crap is anti-american!!
It's nice to see Barry is in such good company - Vermin Supreme is also on the Democratic Primary ballot... wonder if he'll become Obama's FIFTH Chief of Staff !!!! (is anyone truly paying attention to what Obama has done ?? Really ??)
Rick Perry is completely full of $#!^. He'e either woefully ignorant of how private equity firms really work (which, given his laughably inept debate performances, is quite likely) or he is shamelessly stooping to whatever depths necessary to revive his own moribund candidacy (which is also quite likely).
The fact is that were it not for firms like Bain, companies like Staples and Domino's Pizza would have never gotten their initial funding to get off the ground. Moreover, when companies like Bain come in and "feed off the carcass" of troubled companies, they're performing a very valuable service. They're saving the parts of the company that deserve to be saved. The alternative is to let the whole thing go under! Remember, these are "troubled" companies we're talking about here.
My opinion of Rick Perry, which was already fairly low, just sank lower.
Why is Perry still in the race?
Because every Republican Pres campaign needs a goofy clown and Perry fits the bill?
Because he hasn't embarrassed himself enough yet?
Because he wants to give TexAss an even worse reputation?
Because he wants to save face?
Seriously.......why is Bobby Booshay Perry stil there??????
Rick needs to back to Texas and the Tea Party and start supporting the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney.
..some would argue that in the Rep party goofy clown draws 1%, and in the Dem party he becomes the VP...
ROMNEY IS NOT CAPITALISM. HE IS WHAT GIVES CAPITALISM A BAD NAME
As a predator and speculator (the sort of thing that drove the American and world economy into the ditch in 2008), PINK SLIP ROMNEY had no vision or even goal to keep companies affloat, to endure. His idea is to clean up a company by laying off thousands of workers, employing some back at low wages and selling the company off or shipping the company overseas so he can have enough money to stuff into his cavenous pockets, his ears and nose and nose and take pictures about it as a sign of his success. Romney seem to be saying that criticizing his bad practices at Bain means criticizing capitalism. Arrogant rubbish! This man is heartless, ruthless and unfit to be the President of the United States at a time of high unemployment. What is most revealing is that even when the economy seems to be improving, Romney doesn't seem to like it--because he wants things to be so bad so he can be president on it. Shameful!
Romney needs to take obama's lead and talk about "jobs saved" like the administration loves to pat themselves on the back for. By purchasing a company on the verge of collapse that would result in the loss of all jobs he buys the company, lays off some of the staff and "saves" the remaining staff. Now he's actually created jobs that would have been lost. Pretty simple
TO: nisl who wrote:
Correct.
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They are all vultures people! Wake up! We are the next course. I would think that by now most of us would be tired of the politicos circling above taughting us repeatedly with lies and mud slingging. Who really cares what Romney said about firing people. In the end (at the convention) Newt Gingrich is going to get the nod. Then we are truely in trouble, because Newt will not wait for us to die before we are eaten. I for one am not going to be on his radar if I can help it.
Maybe Santorum will get it. Then, as president, he can rid the country of the scourge of contraceptives. Heaven knows, if we could just get rid of contraceptives and birth control, America would be just about perfect.
Maybe Romney's staff could find the hard working people who didnt get fired because he fired the lazy unproductive losers that were the reason these companies got in trouble in the first place.
As for firing people....Don't know about the rest of you, but I am kind of tired of scratching my head trying to figure out why, when I work hard, work extra, follow the rules, on any given day, I can find 10-20 total screw ups who make more money than I do.
I wouldnt worry because if that is how the company you work for is run it wont be long before a venture capital firm like Bain will buy it and fire those 10-20
Well Perry for once is right about something. The problem, however, is that his party wants further deregulation of corporate bad behavior. Corporations (the successful ones, anyhow) will always eventually do something that helps their bottom line while otherwise hurting the rest of society. Hostile takeovers are one common example of that. Companies that lie on their bottom line to fool investors are another (Enron, Worldcom, etc.) Companies that leave behind toxic waste for the government to clean up in a superfund site are another.
There will never be some awakening of morality or corporate responsibility, or at least there will always be many bad actors. That's why deregulating everything, for example deregulation of the financial sector, or getting rid of the EPA, will most often be a terrible idea.
Is Rick Perry joining Occupy Wall Street? It sounds like it! And iot's about time he tried to turn the "crony capitalist" tag on others. too bad he didn't do it earlier when Sarah Palin nailed him on it.
But it's got to be repeated again and agin. Does Perry have the fortitude to press attacks? that's debatable. But he ought to do well in south Carolina-it's a military state just made for a ex figter jock. You notice the comments about "heart" now? Perry's message is strating to sink through to the other campaigns-and it's much to late because perceptions are already set in cement. But Perry's "heart" comment is sending reverberations of sesmic nature that will fighten Republicans down the road.