Fight Night in Exeter, as Romney and Christie tangle with Occupy Protesters

 

EXETER, NH -- Under the championship wrestling banners lining the walls of a high school gym here in Exeter tonight, Mitt Romney and Chris Christie got into verbal wrestling matches of their own with three separate sets of Occupy protesters.

"This is our regular group here," Romney said drily when a small group of Occupiers began to chant "Mitt Kills Jobs" midway through his speech.

As the group was being escorted out, Romney said it was "wonderful" to live in a country where people can express their views, but that he wished they would do it with "a little bit more courtesy."

When the protesters interrupted Christie minutes later with a similar chant, he was less accommodating.

"Really?" Christie asked, when the chants of "Christie Kills Jobs" began. "You know something may go down tonight but it ain't gonna be jobs, sweetheart."

Christie was interrupted just has he began to rail against a Washington culture of division, which he said was guided by President Obama, and he used the disruption to further his argument.

"I doubt he is, but I hope the president’s watching," Christie said. "I have a message for you Mr President: This is the type of disoriented anger your cynicism and your division is causing in our country. Bring our country together stop dividing it Mr. President."

Christie's clear delight at dealing with the protesters energized a crowd that the local police estimated to be more than 800 strong. That turnout number, if accurate, would make tonight's rally one of Romney's largest of the campaign thus far. But even as he shook hands with supporters who spilled over to an overflow room, Romney was confronted by one last Occupy protester, who continued to needle about the causes of the recession, Romney even as staff attempted to guide the candidate away. Romney instead turned back to face the protester head-on.

"You know what? This president has caused a deepening recession and is responsible for 25 million Americans being out of work or stopped working or not being able to get jobs," Romney said, before walking away. "And let me tell you, this president's been a failure and that's one of the reasons I'm running is to help you get a job."

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Christie said. "I have a message for you Mr President: This is the type of disoriented anger your cynicism and your division is causing in our country.

This president has caused a deepening recession and is responsible for 25 million Americans being out of work or stopped working or not being able to get jobs," Romney said

Oh Puleeze!!!

How out of touch with the U.S.A. and her citizens can a candidate be? Same as telling these people, "Let them eat cake."

They belong in the party of no the way they say "No" to reality and insist some different situation exists.

Neither Christie or Romney deserve to be in any position of public leadership and trust IMHO.

  • 78 votes
#1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 7:54 PM EST

Who's out of touch?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9001133/White-House-covered-up-Tim-Burton-staged-Alice-in-Wonderland-Halloween-party.html

That's what we paid for at the depth of the recession. What the Telegraph got wrong was the opening line- the White House could not have "covered up" this extravaganza without the complicity of their sycophants in the media.

You liberals crack me up. You rail about people who earn more than you- but applaud the people who use taxpayer money to live high on the hog.

Out of touch indeed.

  • 26 votes
#1.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:01 PM EST

if you only pay 15 percent on investment income compared to35% working income those people that acutualy involves work...like my job....aren't they the rich being subsidized relative to the rest of us...that whole discredited supply side stockman trickle down pphilo that lead to this inequality we have after 30 years of the field being tipped toward the riches investment income....not toward working income rates that the rest of us use..... how's that work

  • 43 votes
#1.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:12 PM EST
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Aw, poor Stupid.

Someday it'll dawn on her that Obama is the 1%, surrounds himself with the one percent, and is supported by the 1%.

Shoot Stupid it's almost like you don't know that Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, CORZINE, Warren and the lot of 'em are not filthy rich. But yeah, they are all about the little guy.

Or is this just a conscious disregard for the truth Stupid?

Or maybe our little Stupid really thinks that a Harvard Lawyer is middle class material. Of course he's worth millions now, and post presidency will rake in the serious cash.

Oh and Tebow is the man.

  • 22 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:14 PM EST

Great football game.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:16 PM EST

Is that the same as Chicken George Bush on 1 of his several African Dancing extravaganzas,Pole dancing Hacker(Donna) from JerseyShores?

So now Mitt has a backbone when he's with 2 Ton Louie, Lmao!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

  • 29 votes
#1.5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:20 PM EST
Comment author avatarNot as stupid as yo uthinkExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Poor, dense Spanky...again -

You really do NOT understand the "1%" do you?

You can join Romney & Christie in that alternative diminision - you know the one filled with your ludicrous RNC/GOP un-truths and spin - and the three of you can remain in your state of denial...

Maybe someday you will catch on that net worth/income/influence are ONLY indicators and do NOT make nor prevent someone from entering the ranks...

Smatter spank? Can't get it? Hard to wrap you head around the truth?

sad.

  • 34 votes
#1.6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST

Christie is a New Jersey bully.

Not as stupid as yo uthink,

Spanky is so cynical and so selfish that he doesn't believe other people are truly compassionate--even if they're wealthy.

  • 28 votes
#1.7 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Discredited, eh Huff?

Capitalism is the best system out there champ.

But perhaps you got a better economic system?

Sure you do.

By the way - do you happen to know who drafted the capital gains tax laws?

But the way it works is - I earn money. I pay taxes on it. I take the profits [after tax income in most instances] and purchase various investments.

Then depending on the investment and current tax laws as written by the congress [HELLO Charlie Rangel] I pay taxes at the proscribed rate on gains.

Neat, right?

Stupid - sad, right. Yeah, I am just sure that given the opportunity you would not choose to be a 1%-er.

Right. Too bad you didn't make the cut. But hey, this here is the US of A - it's never too late.

  • 21 votes
#1.8 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:24 PM EST
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Oh and NOJO -

I know you caught Peolsi saying today that Obama should run against the 'do nothing' congress.

I forget, what does she do for a living?

Too funny.

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:30 PM EST
Comment author avatarOlrockcandymtnroustaboutExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

WRONG!!! Republicans are dividing this country for 3 years now. ANYBODY knows it to be a fact. Christie is as phony as they come. So are the rest of the republicans. Enjoyed ol republican Simpson from Wyoming on sunday morning tv telling it exactly like it truly is: republicans are completely lost with no direction. Conservatives want less govt in our lives yet impose on the most private parts of our lives. REPUBLICANS WOULD NOT KNOW HONOR IF IT WHERE STARING THEM STRAIGHT IN THE FACE! F' liars and cheats to the f' bone!

  • 41 votes
#1.10 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST

Both of these "douche bags " don't get it ..they.. and the GOP see nothing wrong with what they are doing ...That's the rub with 88% of the American people..This is why Mitt has been running for office for years and never gets elected ...

  • 30 votes
#1.11 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:50 AM EST

Every time I see Christie, he looks as if he has gotten fatter. Republicans can talk all the B.S. they want, but the reality is that from 2000 to 2008, our republican administration dragged this country into the worst recession since the great depression. That is a fact. The question is why should voters give the party of NOthing yet another change to screw the economy up again? It simply makes no sense.

  • 35 votes
#1.12 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:34 AM EST

One thing we know FOR SURE:

Crisco ain't goin' hungry.

  • 17 votes
#1.13 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:06 AM EST

Christie is so dense that light bends around him.

Romney fails to understand basic economics. If the GDP has grown every quarter since Obama has been elected then things have gotten BETTER NOT WORSE.

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST
Comment author avatarRon-1861300Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I do think Christie is right when he says Obama is a very divisive president - more so than any president I can remember by a long shot (for me, this goes back to Ford). There are things Obama does that I agree with, but I am very disappointed in his constant class warfare - and he started as soon as he won the election, before even taking office.

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST
Comment author avatartony-268769Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Wow...these 'occupy' protesters are such a classy bunch...interupting other 'Freedom of Speech' while they defend their needs and wants by demanding their 'Freedom of Speech' and 'Freedom of Asembly'.

There was a small group of occupiers arrested this weekend...West Coast, I believe...arrested for starting a fire, throwing bottles at police officers, and smashing windows of police cruisers.

Yup...a classy bunch indeed ! And oh...such a powerful message they're delivering !

    #1.16 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST

    detada

    It was a Democrat Controlled Congress from 2007 to 2010. How can it be Bush's fault? You Progressives keep saying the Republicans obstruct Obama but give the Democrats a free ride from 2007-2010. When did the Housing Market start the crash?? 2007 I believe. Who was in complete control of the Congress?

    • 3 votes
    #1.17 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST

    Republicans don't kill jobs - the just turn them into crappy ones at call centers and fast food restaurants!!

    • 19 votes
    #1.18 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:32 PM EST

    Romney fails to understand basic economics

    He understands it. He just lies about it.

    Just like he lies about everything else.

    • 16 votes
    #1.19 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:47 PM EST

    if you only pay 15 percent on investment income compared to35% working income those people that acutualy involves work...like my job....aren't they the rich being subsidized relative to the rest of us...

    Apples and oranges Einstein. They got the investment principal from somewhere. If they got from earnings on ordinary income, they paid taxes just like you did. The difference is they invested in something with a return, not flatscreens and Sandal's vacations.

    • 3 votes
    #1.20 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:11 PM EST

    This belief that the harder you work the more money you make is crap. The 1% are wealthy because they made their money on the backs of the 99% and were smart enough to use the power that came with that wealth to ensure all the rules were in their favor to keep it that way.

    • 10 votes
    #1.21 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST

    if you only pay 15 percent on investment income compared to35% working income those people that acutualy involves work...like my job....aren't they the rich being subsidized relative to the rest of us...

    Apples and oranges Einstein. They got the investment principal from somewhere. If they got from earnings on ordinary income, they paid taxes just like you did. The difference is they invested in something with a return, not flatscreens and Sandal's vacations.

    Oh, there's just no comparison! Those poor hard-working investors, the eye-strain from reading fine print stock tables, the hours spent in the hot sun, looking at just the right real estate to buy, wearing their fingers to the bone typing in their speadsheets, the voice strain of telling their broker just what to buy and sell! Oh, merely working a 9 to 5 job actually making things and providing services just doesn't compare!

    I almost forgot - many of those poor belabored investors have inherited the money they're investing, meaning they're orphans. Middle age orphans, yes, but still... Thank GOP that the Republicans want them to inherit that wealth tax free, they have such sympathy for millionaire orphans! It's enough to make one weep...

    So of course the investor class deserves lower taxes than the rest of us... NOT!

    • 9 votes
    #1.22 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:50 PM EST
    Comment author avatarstclaire-3822173Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The GOP Rules, and we can not wait to collect on President Obama's promise, he said on Today's show after her got elected if he could do a job good for this country then he should have only 1 term as President, we are here to collect. You have failed.

    This President has done an awful job in NOT running our country, after all he called President Bush Un-Patriotic for raising the debt ceiling by millions, what does he have to say for his self now that he personally blown that number out of the water with trillions?

    Maybe if President Obama can give more and more of America's money away that will fix the problem, right? maybe the President needs another vacation to think about it.

    • 2 votes
    #1.23 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:17 PM EST

    John...

    You're wasting your breath...there is no limit to how many tax dollars somebody else should pay...as is evidenced on this site daily.

    Somebody with a healthy income pays 40% to 50% to local, state, & federal coffers...sometimes even more but it's never enough. Then, they invest part of what's left of the original money they earned...and the gains are taxed at 15%. Now that's just unacceptable.

    So they cash out an investment and buy a new car...well, in my state that means a 6.35% state sales tax...and if the car is considered a 'luxury' car, there's a 'luxury' tax slapped on it too. And I'm sure that luxury tax is nowhere near as high as it should be, according to some.

    On the way home from the dealership, that greedy car buyer, who surely is not paying his or her "fair share" can stop by at a gas station and fill up the tank with gasoline carrying the highest state gasoline tax in the nation...which I'm isn't high enough either....even tough it's piggybacked on top of federal gasoline taxes to start. Maybe there's a way to charge a higher gasoline tax for greedy non-fair share payers who drive fancy cars.

    Taxes are never, ever, ever going to be high enough as long as they are charged to another person, who can afford to pay them.

    • 2 votes
    #1.24 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:37 PM EST

    Hey tony, you mean like those wonderful Constitution loving tea party folks did last summer during the healthcare debate? Guess they don't like freedom of speech either. So feel free to rail on them as well, ok? Oh wait, you probably think it's ok when the righties do the yelling, right? Well, we're waiting.

    • 9 votes
    #1.25 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:38 PM EST

    Sander,

    It wasn't right when some TP protesters yelled, and it's not right when some OWS protesters yell. We need to have civil debates in this country if we are going to move forward. The right and the left fringes have too much control.

    • 1 vote
    #1.26 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:07 PM EST

    It's the Republican party waging the class warfare on the middle class.

    It's the Republicans that have been divisive since Obama's elections, by going against anything he's proposed even if they invented it or were for it before Obama was elected.

    Republicans have no new ideas on how to fix the economy or jobs.

    • 6 votes
    #1.27 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:20 PM EST

    Spanky --

    I missed your answer from two weeks ago, so here it is again: Which candidate are you supporting?

    Oh wait, you didn't answer the question. You've been too busy spewing your particular brand of vitriol with an emphasis on personal attacks and a concentrated effort to divert attention from the grotesque monster that the GOP has become.

    TL;DR - You're a troll. Either engage in debate with a measure of civility or go f*ck yourself.

    • 4 votes
    #1.28 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:33 PM EST

    Spanky,

    They want to make us equal by force of law. That means that they want to steal your efforts and redistribute them to people who "need" them. Do not be mistaken, with the power of government they can take everything that you have ever owned. In the end, you will have to join me, by going on strike against the system, withdrawing your business acumen and skills, firing your employees, and taking a prolonged vacation. Now is not the time to be productive, now is the time give the leftists nothing. Now is the time to keep your abilities to yourself and wait until the world once again comes to its senses. For now, they want you to work for them, for free. I am telling them to go to hell!

      #1.29 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 6:32 PM EST

      Eric, you don't get it, that is their job, to stop the leftist agenda. That is what they were elected to do!

        #1.30 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 6:33 PM EST

        Hey Romney!!!! YOU SUCK. We common Americans will be respectful to you when you are to our president. And how the hell did Obama deepen the depression? By giving us a stimulus package that created jobs? By overseeing 22 months of job growth in the private sector while the govt is shrinking? They economy IS improving, and your policies will just send us backwards. And Christie, cut the crap. A lot of OWS people don't like Obama, so don't paint it as his creation. Like the Tea Party wasn't the creation of the right-wing extremists.... And expat, calm down. We lefties don't want to destroy America, we just want to make it fair for EVERY American to have a chance in this nation of ours. And unless you want our nation to collapse, go ahead and strike against the system. All you'll do is make things worse: plus people will support the left if the right is trying to undermine the economy in order to get its way.

        Obama Biden 2012

        Left Beats Right 2012

        GOP/ Tea Party Extinct 2012

        • 2 votes
        #1.31 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:50 PM EST

        Sander...

        Waiting for what ? I am not even close to supporting the Tea Party. However, despite some of the shouting they did at town hall meetings, they came off as dignified next to the rabble known as OWS and it's spin-offs.

          #1.32 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST
          Reply

          Can't we just get the fire hoses out and give these spoiled brats the cleaning they really need!

          • 26 votes
          #2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 7:54 PM EST

          Can't we just get the fire hoses out and give these spoiled brats the cleaning they really need

          Christie and Romney could use a good "cleaning" - good idea rob

          • 38 votes
          #2.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:16 PM EST

          Look at Stupid - prejudice against Mormons and fat people.

          Bad for there Stupid. You are better than that.

          I love OWS - "we want more. You have more."

          • 13 votes
          #2.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:19 PM EST

          Look at Stupid - prejudice against Mormons and fat people

          Not true... just assinine lawyers (so called)

          THAT does, indeed, make it better - heck, most citizens dislike shysters- pardon my Freudian slip- I meant lawyers.

          What is the old saying... "First kill all lawyers..."?

          • 15 votes
          #2.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST

          Ah, low hanging fruit, eh Stupid?

          Come on Stupid - you are better than this.

          Oh and I wonder if you can tell me what Obama is?

          In fact how many congress critters are lawyers?

          Stupid did you really just advocate for the death of Obama [a lawyer]? Gosh Stupid, even Michele is a lawyer, and I know you love her.

          Now come on in, it must be cold out on that ledge, and there are some terrific highlights on ESPN.

          • 17 votes
          #2.4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST

          Ah, low hanging fruit, eh Stupid?

          Of course not spank....

          just an easy target -

          But, hey, ----keep trying.

          But tell me... Do you ever get dizzy coming up with all that spin????

          Oh! in answer to your question:

          Oh and I wonder if you can tell me what Obama is?

          The answer is, "Yes!"

          He is PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA!

          Sorry....

          I know how hard that is for YOU to accept....

          Please be careful - don't let your head explode.

          • 24 votes
          #2.5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST

          EXETER, NH -- Under the championship wrestling banners lining the walls of a high school gym here in Exeter tonight, Mitt Romney and Chris Christie got into verbal wrestling matches of their own with three separate sets of Occupy protesters.

          Crisco can win at sumo wrestling.

          That is a given.

          • 8 votes
          #2.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:01 AM EST

          The dividers are the Republicans wanting Obama to be a one term President.

          • 17 votes
          #2.7 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:53 AM EST

          Seems like a good goal !

          • 2 votes
          #2.8 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:12 PM EST

          prejudice against Mormons

          Nothing written by Not Stupid indicated prejudice against Mormons.

          It's not only possible, but downright easy, to despise Romney for being a liar whose policies would be disastrous for the country without being prejudiced.

          Then again, it should come as no surprise that a Romney supporter would stoop to fabrications.

          After all, there's no other way to justify voting for Mitt than by serving up fetid baloney as though it were steak.

          • 7 votes
          #2.9 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:53 PM EST

          It is pretty clear that Mitt Romney and Chris Christie are 'city fellers'. They never slopped hogs. Not surprising they do not know how an economy works.

          What does a farmer do if he has nine skinny hogs and one fat hog that crowds the trough and dominates the other nine? Is that farmer going to eat the skinny hogs first? That farmer likes bacon, tasty pork chops, and smoked ham. That farmer wants a fat hog and encourages the fat one to get fatter. Nope the fat hog always goes to the smokehouse first.

          Our economy has 1 fat hog and 99 skinny ones. Like the farmer, the economy encourages the fat hog to become fatter. Because the economy likes smoked ham, too. The fat hog is always eaten first. That is the whole idea ...

          • 6 votes
          #2.10 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:55 PM EST

          If that condescending fat slob called me 'sweetheart', he'd find his pecker relocated. Choke, Choke. Those from the south do this but Slob is not a southerner. He's just 'A Fat Slob'. Check his ties -- you'll see the stains.

          To turn it around on him, too bad the protester didn't offer to shake his hand adding a fake apology and when just about to shake hands, break the slob's fingers. He deserves it the way he speaks to his state citizens as has been video taped and viewed, this example calling the protester 'sweetheart'. Far too many to mention. He has major issues with women -- he thinks he can bully them.

          Further proves that he isn't 'Presidential material.

          His accounts should also be searched for any use of NJ tax money to pay for these trips and expenses. Not allowed but he will try as he is a 'con'

          • 7 votes
          #2.11 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:35 PM EST

          meede...

          Then you surely must also feel that President Obama's "accounts should also be searched for any use of US taxpayers' money to pay for (his never-ending campaign) trips and expenses".

          Or is that "not allowed" because the President is also a 'con' artist.

            #2.12 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST

            "You know what? This president has caused a deepening recession and is responsible for 25 million Americans being out of work or stopped working or not being able to get jobs," Romney said, before walking away.

            No, Mr. Romney the recession started BEFORE OBAMA TOOK OFFICE. You know that. Anyone that follows politics knows that. Stop being a typical lying politician. If you can’t be bothered to tell the truth to the American people you don’t deserve to be elected to the City Council of Dogtown, let alone President of the United States.

            • 10 votes
            #2.13 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:56 PM EST
            Comment author avatarSkiddyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            These idiots are planted libs, disrupting anything Conservative. Yet if you did that at a lib rally, you'd be uncivil and a terrorist. Hypocrisy as usual.

            • 3 votes
            #2.14 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST
              #2.15 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:10 PM EST

              Tony -- If you checked -- Christie isn't running. He's just there to spew his 'Sh*t' of which there is a lot of from a condescending fat slob and therefore cannot use NJ taxpayer money to pay for his fat a*s travel & expenses.

              Sorry Tony - you lost. Thanks for trying.

              • 6 votes
              #2.16 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:21 PM EST

              Hey, I have relatives that are Mormons, which shows me they can be honest, upright, decent, hard working, generous people.

              So Romney can't blame his religion for his character faults.

              • 6 votes
              #2.17 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:54 PM EST

              meede...

              What's your point...running or not, political campaigns are supposed to be paid for by the politicians' campaign funds...not by taxpayers. If Governor Christie wants to go give a speech for Romney or anyone else...fine, but the political campaign funds should be used.

              The same should apply to Mr. Obama's never ending campaign trips...his campaign should pay the tab...not me...not you.

              Since you hate Governor Christie so much, I have an idea for you. We just got a new governor too...one of those good Democrat governors...you'l love him !

              Within a few months on the job, he gave us the largest tax increase in the history of our state...right in the middle of a recession ! Again....you'll love this guy.

              Our new governor won his election by 6000 votes overall. In just the six poorest small cities in our state, he won by 75,000 votes ! You better sit down...is this guy the best, or what ?

              So since you're so unhappy with Christie, why don't you put a group together and see if you can piece together a trade...your Governor Christie for Connecticut's Governor Malloy. Trust me...all of Connecticut would be forever in your debt.

                #2.18 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:49 PM EST

                Nerm, Interesting that you view people as resources to be exploited. I am not going to support ANY system that uses force of government to take from one group to give to another. Any person of ability that continues to work and produce under such a system -- deserves the slavery that they are subjected to. I will never be a slave to the needs of the 99.

                  #2.19 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST
                  Reply

                  3. God

                  2. Tim Tebow

                  1. Mitt Romney!!!!!!!!!

                  • 5 votes
                  #3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:12 PM EST
                  Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Tebow for VP?

                  • 5 votes
                  #3.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST

                  No...

                  SPANKY FOR VP!

                  • 6 votes
                  #3.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST

                  Aw shoot Stupid, thanks, but we don't need anymore lawyers in the COngress.

                  • 6 votes
                  #3.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:36 PM EST

                  Spanky Please tell me why it would be in my be in my best interest to vote republican if I don't make over than 100 thousand dollars?

                  • 19 votes
                  #3.4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST

                  Sorry to hear that Smitty.

                  People have a wide array of reasons to vote for particular candidates. Economic situation is but one.

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST

                  Spanky exclude the economic situation. Please tell me your reason why one should vote republican?

                  • 13 votes
                  #3.6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:05 PM EST

                  You disqualified me.

                  Besides all I have is my reason why I will vote republican.

                  Plus it is my hope, although I am not super hopeful, that a republican president now would actually try [at least try] to reduce the debt].

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.7 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST

                  Well, Smitty:

                  It looks mighty like no plausible, reasonable, logical reason exists.....

                  • 17 votes
                  #3.8 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST

                  Spanky How did I disqualified you? My hope is that everyone in office stops the bickering and starts to work together to fix this problem. Our country can't keep on this path. Both parties need to stop this insanity. Last time I checked we are all Americans.

                  • 12 votes
                  #3.9 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST

                  Not as stupid, that assumes that there is the capacity for 'reasonable', 'plausible', and 'logic'. I've got him on ignore (little 17 year old fake lawyers do not interest me), so I don't know what it was he said, but if my memory serves, the little twerp doesn't have the capacity for any of those things.

                  • 12 votes
                  #3.10 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                  ty matthew;

                  You didn't miss anything because nothing was said - just the same spin and deflection that led to "ignore" in the first place...

                  You'd think they would eventually catch on, but maybe they can't.

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.11 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:12 PM EST

                  Crisco could end hunger in New Jersey just by sharing his lunch.

                  • 8 votes
                  #3.12 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:45 AM EST

                  I have found it necessary to ignore just one person ..you can probably figure out who it is and why.

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.13 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:04 PM EST

                  Plus it is my hope ... that a republican president now would actually try ... to reduce the debt

                  Bwaa haaa haaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

                  Wait. Don't tell me. Let me guess.

                  By INCREASING SPENDING and LOWERING REVENUES?

                  Like the GOP has done from 2001 to present?

                  hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

                  Oh. You were serious? So sorry.

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.14 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                  Plus it is my hope ... that a republican president now would actually try ... to reduce the debt

                  Our last Republican President inherited a budget SURPLUS large enough that we could have paid off the entire national debt by the time the next President takes office.

                  Instead, despite a healthy economy, he approved measures by a Republican House of Representatives and Republican Senate to eliminate the surplus, go into heavy deficit spending mode, and DOUBLED the national debt in 8 short years, leaving an economy in RUINS, two unfunded wars, and a MASSIVE budget deficit for years to come.

                  Upon taking office, President Obama suggested a return to "pay as you go" rules, which a Republican Congress and Democratic President used to craft the budget surpluses of the 1990s. The Republican leadership in Congress REFUSED.

                  More recently, President Obama offered a plan to REDUCE the deficit by $4 Trillion over the next 10 years. John Boehner, Republican Speaker of the House REFUSED and offered up his own plan to reduce the deficit by a mere $20 billion next year instead. Whoopee.

                  So is the reason you think a Republican President would try to reduce the debt now, because no Republican President in the last 50 years has ever reduced the debt by even a penny?

                  Let's see, there was Ronald Reagan who TRIPLED the national debt, and then George W. Bush who DOUBLED it after it had already been tripled and then some.

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.15 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST

                  So, Lardass is Mittens' muscle now? Is he looking for the VP spot on the ticket? What a pair - Mr. "I like to fire people!" and Mr. "Where's-my-helicopter-I'm-late-for-my-kids-ballgame?"

                  Obama 2012.

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.16 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:43 PM EST

                  Plus it is my hope, although I am not super hopeful, that a republican president now would actually try [at least try] to reduce the debt].

                  I'm afraid you're going to be sorely disappointed. Of the Republican candidates, only Huntsman dared to suggest raising tax revenues by closing loopholes, and even he wants lower tax rates. All the rest are competing to see who can offer the biggest tax cuts to the well-off. But a full decade of Bush tax cuts didn't result in a booming economy and a declining National debt, instead it results in a declining economy and a booming debt.

                  The Bush Jr. administration managed to add 4.9 trillion dollars to the Debt, doubling it, and had no concern about that debt as long as the rich got richer and could invest their increased wealth in Treasury bills, buying up that debt. Yep, the Republican plan is to sell the US to the wealthiest investors, and they want to cut their taxes to help them do it!

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.17 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM EST

                  My, my the bush tax cuts were across all income groups.

                  I wonder where the left was all that time?

                    #3.18 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:26 PM EST

                    Smitty...

                    A voter might consider voting for a Republican for the presidency in the hopes that the person voted for would act like a leader...a quality that is sorely absent from the current officeholder's quiver of talents.

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.19 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Can Denver "Tebow" the Pats next week? (Sorry, Jack, but Tebow is from my hometown here)

                    And don't worry, the GnOP won't let anyone but Romney with his money men lose the nomination. Come the general election though, game on!

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:36 PM EST

                    Phinephancy, It will be hard for the Bronco's to defeat the Patriots. But I will be rooting for Broncos and the Giants.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST

                    Me, too, Lisa. Know the Tebow family, couldn't face them if I didn't :)

                    And I always like Tom Coughlin. He didn't get a fair shake in J'ville.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:44 PM EST

                    I agree it'll be tough for the Broncos.

                    But Brady and the Pats sure got mighty 'lucky' in their first run.

                    Remember the "TUCK?"

                    Never discount luck and random events in sports.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST

                    Phinephancy, Maybe with both of us rooting for them they could win.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST

                    I am ashamed to admit, I hid in the kitchen at the beginning of OT, heard a load roar from the living room - and WOW!!!! Tebow did it. WITH A PASS!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:54 PM EST

                    Phinephancy, Yes he did. I will continue to root for him because I can't stand the way the media treat him.

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:58 PM EST

                    Lisa,

                    I just love watching the experts on ESPN heads twirl around whenever Tebow wins! Drives them nuts!!!

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.7 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:02 PM EST

                    Phinephancy, You are so right. They demean him and make fun of his faith. It like it's a sin to be clean cut and responsible.

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.8 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST

                    Hey phine, nice win for your boy. Somehow, I just knew he would pull it off in the OT.

                    Tough for my Lions, though. Drew Brees is just to good.

                    Tim will need every Miracle he can find next week, but I will be rooting for him

                    BTW, NFL ref's suck.

                    • 6 votes
                    #4.9 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:53 PM EST

                    Hey pp you weren't Tebowing where you could have discrininated against any atheists were you. What do you think about Tebow giving praise to God, pretty disgusting to a devout liberal like yourself huh

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.10 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:53 PM EST

                    WCA,

                    Felt bad for your Lions - but they have a solid base for next year. Drew Brees is good, no denying it.

                    And about the ref's - two thumbs up on that!! You would think in the playoffs they could try and get the calls right. Bad all weekend.

                    Bob Jones,

                    So how do you know that I am not devout to my faith? Pretty dumb assumption on your part. Guess what, one can believe in God and be liberal. See you at mass!!!

                    • 11 votes
                    #4.11 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:56 PM EST

                    Hey Bob Jones, you're way off base in criticizing Phinephancy on this one.

                    If you are going to try to make a point, try to be better informed.

                    For instance are you aware that she knows the Tebows and that Tim went to her local High School?

                    How do you know if she is or is not a person of faith.

                    Generalizations like that one, usually aren't very accurate.

                    Learn to pick the right battles, dude.

                    • 7 votes
                    #4.12 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:03 PM EST

                    WCA,

                    Thanks. You know, I must still be on their (the high school) list as a top softie for whatever group is selling something! (According to Tim's mom, she is too!) Mr. phinephancy wonders if he will have to get second job to keep supporting them LOL On the bright side, his guys at work no longer hide (since our daughter graduated from there) that he is still selling for the groups she belonged to.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.13 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:06 PM EST

                    I hate to interject in this fine conversation but some kid had to run 80 yards with a nice stiffarm for that touchdown. Tebow did not do it all. The thing is he was under 50% passing. He is supposed to make that throw everytime. He gets paid to play quarterback.

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.14 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:04 PM EST
                    Reply

                    "Our top prioty is to make sure Obama is a one term president", this was said bt the republican minority leader in the senate. "We will break him", "we will make this his Waterloo" public comments by senator DeMint and representative Boehner. Id be careful of your lies about the president being divisive Romney, nothing will fire up Democrats more than that BS. Republicans may wish to ignore Romney's constant lies and nominate him, but democrats and independents will not ignore them.

                    • 26 votes
                    #5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST

                    When you openly show that much contempt for a duly elected president of the United States, Karma will come back and get you. Shame on the GOP.

                    • 22 votes
                    #5.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST

                    So Forrest - is it that they said it in public that you take issue with?

                    Cause I'm pretty sure that Kerry, Gore, Clintons, Reid and Pelosi did everything they could to try to defeat Bush in '04.

                    It is always a priority to defeat your enemy. No matter what you always think you can do it better.

                    Politics, by it's very nature is divisive. Unfortunately the world as a whole grows more so every day. But that's just life.

                    Of course way back - the bear that ate the caveman was pretty darn divisive too.

                    And gosh phinep - it's almost like you have forgotten all the lovely things the dems said about Bush.

                    I don't think karma wastes it's time with politics.

                    • 10 votes
                    #5.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:47 PM EST

                    Hey spanked, never in modern history of this country has a first family had to endure what republicans have unhonorably dished out to the Obamas. Unwarranted from the git go. The dishonor and shame of republicans is COMPLETE.

                    • 24 votes
                    #5.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST

                    Yeah Spanky it is the fact that they said it publicly and proudly right after he took office, these are not voters these are elected representatives of the US talking about the duly elected (by an electoral landslide) president of a nation engaged in two wars and on the brink of an economic collapse before he even set foot in the oval office. If the president fails the country is failing, these people represent the US at the highest level. You think that flies in industry, what happens if an employee publicly says his main goal is to see his boss fail and lose his job, guess who would lose their job first. How about if you tell a client you hope he crashes and burns in court because you have a difference of opinion with him. No you have a responsibility to represent that client to the best of your ability whether you like him or not, and my guess is that is exactly what you do, or you turn down the work. These guys should have quit if that was their main goal for the nation. I have worked for some horses asses in my day but I did my job as best as I could because that is what I was paid to do, and my reputation was at stake. I can't use my personal feelings about the boss as justification for me screwing the pooch, that crap don't cut it, not if you are a pro. Would you tolerate that crap from anybody you employ. It's not right, it can not be justified. Democrats said plenty about Bush I am sure, but they never did it publicly, and stated it as a priority of the US Congress to see the President of the US fail, it is damn near treasonous. I guarantee you I was the damn union rep and I would not tolerate that crap from anybody in my crews, I told them straight up I don't give a crap what you think about the owner, you still owe the man a days work for a days pay, you want me to protect you guys from him getting over on you, then I also got to protect him from you guys getting over on him. It's how professionals operate, you do your damn job and you try to help the guy if you think he is making a bad move not submarine him, whether you like him or not, your on the same team in the end. I'm mad and probably rambling by now, this is the kind of sh!t that leads to me inviting someone out to the parking lot so I can damn near get my teeth knocked out. What is wrong with these people when anybody said anything bad about Bush they accused them of being unpatriotic and emboldening our enemies. It's not right, and if others have done it, then two wrongs don't make a right, it is rookie crap, pros don't operate in that fashion, they owed the American people the best they could do, they damn well collected their pay from them.

                    • 29 votes
                    #5.4 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST

                    Spanky's been spanked, courtesy of our very own Forrest Grump 2.0.

                    Bravo, Forrest, bravo.

                    Being a compassionate man, I just hope you didn't give him a concussion.

                    • 23 votes
                    #5.5 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:41 PM EST

                    Bravo Forrest!!!!!!!!

                    • 19 votes
                    #5.6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST

                    With all due respect Forrest, your speech would have been a lot more convincing and believable if you could point me to the link showing where you had said that to the Democrats when they were trashing Bush for eight years.

                    Just once will do. Thank you in advance.

                    • 7 votes
                    #5.7 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:50 PM EST

                    Obviously, reading comprehension is not a characteristic of Michael1969.

                    • 15 votes
                    #5.8 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:00 PM EST

                    Michael? With an avatar like yours, it does not command any level of respect or need to show you anything. You obviously have a negative opinion of anything Obama. BYW - Haters never win - they always loose...

                    • 18 votes
                    #5.9 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST

                    I got no beef with Spanky, I was not calling him out personally, I don't think he condones it, as much as just recognizes what happens and accepts it as inevitable to some degree in politics. He is an an adversarial business, I have been in an adversarial position in my business so part of what he said is true, a us versus them attitude can set in, but these guys crossed the line, because in the end they are all supposed to be on the same team, our team, the only team. I got a little worked up, and vented some. I am not mad at Spanky, I am mad at the republican leadership, and I will punish all republicans at all levels of government with my vote for not policing their own, and not holding their highest elected officials accountable to act as professionals, and operate in good faith with their employer, the citizens of the US. By the way Huntsmann and Paul are the only two men on that stage that has a set, and are pros at what they do for the US, whether you personally agree with them are not.

                    • 13 votes
                    #5.10 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:36 PM EST

                    LMAO....you guys must be a few bulbs short of a chandelier.

                    I merely asked Mr. Forrest where I could find the documentation of his diplomacy when addressed to Mr. Bush similiarly the way he speaks of Mr. Obama. I'm sure it's around somewhere ;)

                    Instead, the retort from you fine folks is my avatar and reading skills?!?!...lol....silly liberals.

                    Yes Lyn, I do have a negative opinion of Mr. Obama, much the same as I am sure you had one of Mr. Bush. He is a socialist in my humble opinion.

                    Since deciphering photos is a struggle for you, allow me to lend a hand:

                    My avatar is a mock photo of Mr. Obama in make-up as the Clown Prince of Crime, aka, The Joker, in "Dark Knight", played by Heath Ledger. Get it? He's a Joker.....lol....yes, I see the light coming on above your head....good job.

                    I am also certain Ms. Lyn from KCMO that you have also taken it upon yourself to scold the MANY others on this board regarding their avatars as well because I KNOW you wouldn't want to be labeled as a hypocrite....right?

                    LOL....Lean Forward Baby!....MSNBC says it won't hurt!

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.11 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:36 PM EST

                    Forrest---Your words speak wisdom. What is Spanky's response? Silence.

                    • 9 votes
                    #5.12 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:47 PM EST

                    Lyn, KCMO
                    Michael? With an avatar like yours, it does not command any level of respect

                    P.S.....sorry to be the one to break it to ya, but if you're on here to get "respect" you need to put the Twinkie down and seek fresh air and real human contact.

                    99% of the folks here are political junkie, partisan hacks with minds that will not change. This is merely an outlet to vent.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.13 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:49 PM EST

                    Michael you miss the point entirely I could give a hoot what you or any other blogger has to say about Obama or Bush. These were the highest elected republican officials of the US government openly stating that their top priority was to see the president of the US government fail, not a policy, his presidency, a grunt in the US army could be court marshaled for less, you get that. These guys did not take an oath to the republican party they took an oath to serve the USA to the best of their ability. You find a single elected democrat that publicly called for Bush's presidency to fail, not policy, his presidency, and then we will talk about my believability, but you will not find that link because it never happened, they also did not subjugate their oath to the American people by signing an oath to a single individual ie Grover Norquist as did republicans, you want to talk divisiveness, the republicans have done things that are unprecedented in US politics. Bring on your defense for them, tell me how it is justified, tell me which oath they honor, tell me how patriotic and noble they are, I need a good explanation of why elected representatives of our government should operate in this fashion.

                    • 20 votes
                    #5.14 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 11:12 PM EST

                    And gosh phinep - it's almost like you have forgotten all the lovely things the dems said about Bush.

                    The difference here, Spanky, is that the things the dems said about Bush were true.

                    • 6 votes
                    #5.15 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:49 AM EST

                    Yikes. Go Forrest.

                    • 5 votes
                    #5.16 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST

                    olrock...

                    With a name like that, you likely have been around a while...yet you've forgotten the years old warning from the days of Woodstock..."stay away from the brown acid".

                      #5.17 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:59 PM EST
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                      Comment author avatarGlenda Bartonvia Facebook

                      Christie better not try his Jersey Shore Soprano act in Calif. It don't play here, homie! So he's down to threatening people now? If he ran for Pres., it would be thug-in-chief. He obviously thinks he's so cool. Romney is a flat out lier - claims he created more jobs than Obama. Look up Fact Check. All he was interested in was making millions with his buddies and throwing people out of jobs. Job Destroyer.

                      • 18 votes
                      Reply#6 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST

                      Glenda Barton

                      Christie better not try his Jersey Shore Soprano act in Calif. It don't play here, homie!

                      You must be new to this whole politics thingy. I'll help ya lib.

                      Christie doesn't give a !*&!$? about the left coast. Those electoral votes would not go to a Republican.

                      Kinda like how the Pres doesn't spend a lot of campaign time in, oh I don't know, New York.....he's a shoe-in for their votes.

                      Your welcome, now come to our side....we make sense.

                      • 9 votes
                      #6.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:27 PM EST

                      Hater...

                      • 7 votes
                      #6.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:13 PM EST

                      Lyn, KCMO

                      Hater...

                      Are you of age?.....Most "big people" I know don't use that word...lol

                      But hey....to each their own, if it blows wind up your skirt, hate away!!

                      • 5 votes
                      #6.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:52 PM EST

                      Buit big people use avatars of our POTUS in clown make up? Yeah. There's a clown here and it the president.

                      • 4 votes
                      #6.4 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:35 AM EST

                      Don't worry about Crisco...his days are numbered.

                      He's about an inch away from exploding.

                      • 2 votes
                      #6.5 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:51 AM EST

                      Waiting on Michael1969 response to Mr, Gump. Forrest is spot on and there is no way to argue against what he says. If Obama has failed, the Republican leaders have to be held accountable. They have a larger hand in the economy failing than the President.

                      • 10 votes
                      #6.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:29 AM EST

                      Amazing...."If Obama has failed. the Republican leaders have to held accountable".

                      Absolutely amazing !

                      • 1 vote
                      #6.7 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:59 PM EST

                      lib logic,never have a liberal umpire a ball game.

                        #6.8 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:53 PM EST

                        hockey...

                        Is that because every hitter would be safe at first ? Or would "safe" and "out" need to be determined by the specific income level of the batter ?

                          #6.9 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:01 PM EST
                          Reply

                          Obama leads the division in DC? Who the hell fired the first shot? Rep. Joe Wilson was pretty close to the first one. Obama offered the Commerce Secr position to Sen. Judd Greg until others in the GOP talked him out of accepting it. It was the GOP that went to extraordinary means to delay seating of Sen. Franken from Minn. It was the GOP from day one that opposed every (that means all) legislation proposed by Obama. There was not one piece of legislation that they would philosophically support even if they disagreed on the legislation's details.

                          • 20 votes
                          Reply#7 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST

                          This Republican/TP Inc. primary is getting me fired up. The lies, distortions, misrepresentations, and general dishonor these Republican/TP Inc. idiots are demonstrating make me want to actually help ensure they lose, and lose big. I still won't register with a particular party, but right now, my vote, and my efforts will be against anything, and anybody who is Republican/TP Inc., or a supply-side, trickle down our legs economics advocate.

                          Tomorrow, I am going to contact the local democratic party, and see what I can do to help.

                          • 19 votes
                          Reply#8 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 9:34 PM EST

                          Matthew, do you have any "specifics" that come to mind when you site Republican/TP lies, distortions, misrepresentations and general dishonor?

                          Please enlighten us.

                          • 4 votes
                          #8.1 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:12 PM EST

                          do you have any "specifics" that come to mind when you site Republican/TP lies, distortions, misrepresentations and general dishonor?

                          • Fake war in Iraq
                            Outing our own CIA field agent
                            Downing Street memos
                            Scooter Libby
                            "Mission Accomplished"
                            First "appointed" President ever
                            Trickle down works,....really this time.
                            Tax cuts for the wealthy generate jobs

                          ...........howzat?

                          • 16 votes
                          #8.2 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:23 PM EST

                          Fake war in Iraq.... supported by booth parties of congress.
                          Outing our own CIA field agent... Plame was already know as a CIA employee
                          Downing Street memos..... Downing Street is in England ????
                          Scooter Libby..... was a political prisoner, FALSLY jailed by Democrats
                          "Mission Accomplished"..... We Kicked the mass murderer Sadam's ass!
                          First "appointed" President ever.... Your opinion, 2000 election was legal
                          Trickle down works,....really this time... Reagan turned Carters Folly around in 3 years.
                          Tax cuts for the wealthy generate jobs... The "Laffer Curve" is real, embrace it !

                          • 5 votes
                          #8.3 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:33 PM EST

                          @ssmithlg you want to see where the repub/teabags will lead this country if allowed to continue just look to the Michigan governor and his policies because he and other teabag/repubs want to see this for us all and I for one refuse to give up My rights

                          maybe you need to get your heads out your asses and really look around because those of us out here in the real world are not liking what we see and before you go calling Me a liberal I will say hell yeah I am now and proud of it thanks to repub/teabags

                          • 9 votes
                          #8.4 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:03 AM EST

                          Trickle down works,....really this time... Reagan turned Carters Folly around in 3 years.
                          Tax cuts for the wealthy generate jobs...

                          Wrong, the tax cuts to the top and the whole notion of trickle down is a FAILURE.

                          http://www.faireconomy.org/research/TrickleDown.html

                          http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/business/12scene.html

                          Those failed policies have led to the concentration of wealth to the top and decimated the middle class.

                          http://www.economist.com/node/15579916?story_id=15579916

                          • 3 votes
                          #8.5 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:36 PM EST

                          Fake war in Iraq.... supported by booth parties of congress.

                          That does not negate the fact the Bush/Cheney administration LIED about the whole thing.

                          Outing our own CIA field agent... Plame was already know as a CIA employee

                          Bull@!$%#. She WAS covert.

                          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/#.TwtCiErWPQw

                          Downing Street memos..... Downing Street is in England ????

                          Read em and weep.

                          Scooter Libby..... was a political prisoner, FALSLY jailed by Democrats

                          Asinine. Of course he is a CONVICTED liar and obstructed justice.

                          "Mission Accomplished"..... We Kicked the mass murderer Sadam's ass!

                          Too bad they left OBL for Obama - at least he got the job done.

                          • 6 votes
                          #8.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:44 PM EST

                          I'm going to have to start jotting these things down so I can make sure that our history books have factual information in the future.

                            #8.7 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:03 PM EST

                            Tax cuts for the wealthy generate jobs...
                            The "Laffer Curve" is real, embrace it !

                            Real history disagrees with you. Reagan and Bush Sr. tested the aptly named "Laffer Curve", in both cases the resulting record deficits caused them to call for tax increases. Bush Jr. tested it with his tax cuts (still in effect, btw), ignored the resulting deficits, and managed to add a staggering 4.9 trillion dollars to the National Debt, doubling it.

                            And what did we get for that spectacular increase in debt? A spectacular increase in unemployment, peaking in the last days of the Bush Jr. administration. The Rich got richer, all right, but they didn't bother to create jobs, they just invested in Treasury Notes - yep, why make risky investments in businesses that create jobs, when they can just buy up no-risk T bills, thus financing the debt, and the Republicans pushed through tax cuts to help them do it!

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.8 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST

                            I have another specific lie from the Teapublicans: They claim that Obama refused to enforce immigration laws. WRONG!

                            Obama has hired more border agents, stepped up border patrols, stepped up investigations of companies hiring illegals, and has deported more illegal immigrants in 3 years than the Bush Jr. administration did in 8. Increasing enforcement is the opposite of "refusing to enforce", and the opposite of the truth is a lie.

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.9 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST

                            Yawn.

                            I thought the subject here was the 'occupy' loons acted loonie at a Republican campaign event ???

                            Should have known it would boil down to 'Bush'.

                              #8.10 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:04 PM EST

                              Yeah Matthew, go help the Democrats shutter their offices.

                                #8.11 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:22 PM EST
                                Reply

                                "And let me tell you, this president's been a failure and that's one of the reasons I'm running is to help you get a job."

                                This from a germ of inherited entitlement who never held a real job in his entire life. This sucker wouldn't know how to operate a shovel if you handed him one.

                                Seriously.

                                • 16 votes
                                Reply#9 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:17 PM EST

                                He is good at tying dogs to roofs.

                                • 6 votes
                                #9.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:01 AM EST
                                Reply

                                For anyone on this thread that feels their freedoms being eroded away by an ever intrusive government, follow this link to a cartoon that was made back in 1948.

                                http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-cartoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html

                                It seems quite insightful for being 64 tears old.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#10 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:26 PM EST

                                A fine example of why Republic-ism has become such a tarnished word over the years. McCarthyism anyone, that fine example of a republican gone extreme? Hooverism, a fine example of what NOT to do to recover from a recession.

                                • 4 votes
                                #10.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:31 AM EST

                                Please research the NDAA 1867 Bill that passed 93-7 in the Senate.. and Obamaus signed this piece of Crap Bill on Dec 31st. 2011. The Dinosaur "Whore" mainstream media of the NWO never covered this Bill's signing. The NDAA 1867 Bill.. allows Indefinite Detentions of American Citizens, Rolls Out Martial-Law in the United States, and end/kills Posse Comitatus... check these Facts for yourselves... Now, my eyes are full of Tears!! Leapfrog.... OATHKEEPERS.. NOT ON OUR WATCH!!

                                  #10.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:38 AM EST

                                  At the cartoons end,I liked the last statement. The American people having to work together. Seems that has been lost in our current Congress.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #10.3 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:46 AM EST
                                  Reply

                                  Tell it Glenda! You go sister.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#11 - Sun Jan 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST

                                  Michael90210. Wow! An Avatar and an attitude......exremely impressive. I have never learned one useful item from any of your posts and what is worse is your boring and not very funny. What a bummer!

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#12 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:40 AM EST

                                  Mitt and his big boy side kick are so full of it.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#13 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:39 AM EST

                                  Oh this is good, the poster boy for the 1% and fatty arbuckle getting into it with the OWS! Show us your tax return Mitt! And the fat blow hard, go choke on a chicken sandwich like Mama Cass did! Yeah tough guy, looks like the last fight he had was trying to put on his socks that morning! Too funny, NJ is a cesspool with corruption, crime, and some of the highest taxes on property in the US, good job Gov. Blowhard!

                                  • 5 votes
                                  Reply#14 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 8:58 AM EST

                                  Romney was wasting his time with the Occupy puke. He really doesn't want a job. He'd rather lay around, jack his jaws, and bitch and moan. He doesn't want to get up every day and go to work. Why work when you can collect a check from Uncle Sugar for doing nothing but drugs?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#15 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:12 AM EST

                                  Christie is a "Thug" wanna-be. He try's very hard to emulate a "Mob Boss" of the 1930's era. Sorry Christie, that dog wont Hunt!! Not with the True American Patriots of this Country. We don't Scare nor Run very easily. I have a great idea, once Obamaus is beaten in the 2012 Election, take your "Dog an Pony Show" to Chicago. There you will find, plenty of "Players" that also are wanna-be Mob Bosses..... Ciao

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                                  Reply#16 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:22 AM EST

                                  As the group was being escorted out, Romney said it was "wonderful" to live in a country where people can express their views

                                  yeah, express you views but you have to leave now since you do not agree with me! What a hypocritical crock of Sh!t God Bless America...

                                  Christie said. "I have a message for you Mr President: This is the type of disoriented anger your cynicism and your division is causing in our country. Bring our country together stop dividing it Mr. President."

                                  Even more obvious hypocrisy!

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#17 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:23 AM EST

                                  Ditto !!!

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                                  #17.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:30 AM EST

                                  hey Robert,

                                  why don't YOU try to speak to a crowd while people are screaming in the background?? Why would Romney stay if the OWS protesters will not let him speak ? What right do the OWS protesters have to stop a town hall meeting? After they (OWS) say their piece, as is their right, they need to leave so the meeting can continue.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #17.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:40 AM EST

                                  LEONA-2986819

                                  It was a public forum in a public place which is paid for by all taxpayers in that district. How do you pretend to have the right to silence protesters in a public place in a public forum which was open to everyone? Even protesters have a right to be heard in a public place in a public forum, it IS first amendment right in it's most pristine form. Romney or Christie did not pay for that public place, they were allowed to speak there as it being an open public forum. If you want to control your audience pay for a private place to hold your forum and control who comes in, if protesters interrupt in a place you paid for then perhaps you might have the right to escort them out.

                                  God help America if people believe like you that as Americans we do not have the right to protest in a public place like a School.

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                                  #17.3 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:03 PM EST

                                  We have freedom of speech, we all get that........ BUT......why would Romney stay if he isn't allowed to speak since the OWS is yelling out non stop ?

                                  What would be the point of staying? Would YOU stay?

                                    #17.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST
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                                    Yes the incorrect spelling of TRY'S was intentional...lol

                                      Reply#18 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 9:29 AM EST

                                      Here's what Romney's message to Americans should be......

                                      "At the same time, Democrats defend President Obama's record of job creation, saying that the U.S. economy has added more than 3.1 million private sector jobs in the last 22 months. They do not note that 6 million fewer people are participating in the labor force since Obama became president."

                                      "Among 1,000 people who've lost jobs recently are former employees of now-defunct solar power firm Solyndra, a centerpiece of Obama's green jobs program. The U.S. government invested $500 million in the firm before it declared bankruptcy last summer. "

                                      Democrats = HYPOCRITES

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#19 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 10:43 AM EST

                                      Americans have finally had a taste of a true liberal freak in the White House and that bad taste is hard to spit out.

                                      Never again in our lifetimes, will America elect someone so obviously disqualified for the job.

                                      However, even bad experiences have a positive side. This 4-year error in the White House can be viewed as a great learning opportunity.

                                      A hard lesson, and an expensive one, to say the least, but a valuable lesson nonetheless.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#20 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:04 AM EST

                                      If that's what you want to tell yourself so that you can make it through the day go right ahead. It's just funny to me that Republicans want to forget that this huge mess was handed over to OUR President, 3 years ago, from a Republican White House. And what are we suppose to learn from 8 years of the Republicans running our country into a ditch? Please explain those 8 years.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #20.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST
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                                      All this "be courteous" garbage that Romney's spewing is just another way of not confronting the question on how he plans getting "good jobs for Americans" on the front burner. If he thinks by continuing down the same road we've been on since Reaganomic began in 1981 that this will help, he's absolutely 100% wrong! Big Business moving its capital into 3rd World countries where it continues its use of slave labor is the problem! Suffocating the Middle Class by keeping money out of the hands and pockets of that American Middle Class is the problem! Any candidate I'll vote for has got to fight to end this practice of outsourcing jobs and bring those jobs back to America!!

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#21 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:30 AM EST

                                      RB,

                                      You're blaming Republicans for "moving it's capital into 3rd world countries" ??????

                                      You Democrats are such HYPOCRITES.

                                      Tell that line of yours to Obamas "jobs czar" Jeff Immelt (GE).

                                      GE sent jobs to China and , BTW, they paid NO TAXES.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #21.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST

                                      Leona, the argument is not whether democrats have ever sent jobs overseas or not. As business owners they sure have. But if you tally up the totals, Republican engrossed corporations are by far the largest culprits.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #21.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:00 PM EST

                                      Rob99,

                                      TELL THE TRUTH.....

                                      Here's the real argument........ all you have to do is realize that Obama took 3/4 of all donations made by Wall Street. Obama is in the pocket of Wall Street and THEY are investors in business overseas.

                                        #21.3 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:05 PM EST

                                        The Blame game. I thinks we are being duped by both parties. And whichever side spends the most is the real problem. It's not their money, it's wall street, K street and big business. Mr.Money runs this country. And our elected officials follow the handouts. Until we stop letting dollars elect out officials we will keep failing as a society of We the People.

                                          #21.4 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST

                                          LEONA-2986819

                                          Rob99,

                                          TELL THE TRUTH.....

                                          Well, you are almost right, the only thing you left out is that they all are in the Wall Street pockets. You can research political donations and you will see that corporations make donations to both parties almost equally until the point they begin to realize who is likely going to win, then they increase their donations. To this point most large corporations have made almost equal donations to the Repubs and Dems.

                                          You cannot say Obama is in Wall Streets pocket without mentioning that both sides are in the pocket of Wall Street, Koch Bros and lobbyest. We need to get money out of politics, we need term limits and maybe reform may start to take place in Washington.

                                          Watching the last GOP Debate, the theme was pretty loud and clear that both parties are to blame and both parties have sold out to Wall Street.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #21.5 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST

                                          I would allow only good jobs for registered Republicans. The rest of you liberal trash can beg on a street corner. I mean those of you who arn't doing that already. LOL

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #21.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:03 PM EST

                                          Who cares what you say joe?

                                            #21.7 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:28 PM EST
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                                            Oh give me an F'n Break!!! (eyes roll)

                                            Big Chubby said:

                                            Christie said. "I have a message for you Mr President: This is the type of disoriented anger your cynicism and your division is causing in our country. Bring our country together stop dividing it Mr. President."

                                            Yeah, the say "no" and refuse to compromise Republican congress is being forced to do so right??? PLEeeeeeze.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            Reply#22 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:44 AM EST

                                            I'm kind of thinking it is the Democrats who won't budge. You can't blame this all on Republicans. It's that kind of thinking that is ruining this country.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #22.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:19 PM EST

                                            you know I have a sinking feeling that if a repub gets in they will take the Obama job bill and rename it and rush it through claiming it for themselves mainly because most of them are to damn stupid to make a bill of their own and refuse to allow those that can to get a job bill through because lets face it they the Obama jobs bill could make jobs and far more than that damn keystone fracking oil bill would make

                                            just remember once they suck the middle class dry of money they will be coming for your money next upper class

                                              #22.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 6:18 PM EST
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                                              I am a life long Republican and have owned three businesses for over 30 years. After I turned the tv off after listening to the debate the oteher night I was one Pi###ed off individual.

                                              Most of the debate was on social issues (abortion and gays), military, and excessive regulations, and taxes.

                                              I could give a hoot about these issues, what I want to hear is what will they do about the economy. Cutting regulations is a bunch of BS, there is not one regulations enacted in the last three years that would materially effect my businesses in fact some actually probably helped me in that they stopped my competitors from cutting corners to get an unfair/illegal advantage. My taxes today ae the lowest they have ever been,, if you don't belve me check it out. I can remember paying close to 60% back in the 50's. As for Obama care I will have to wait and see, but at this point it appears that my actual cost will go down from what I pay for my employees health insurance today.

                                              The bootom line is if the working man does not have some disposable income the economy will continue to stagnate.

                                              Unless they come up with some sort of plan to turn the economy around that is better then what Obama has been trying to do I will vote Democratic for the first time in my life.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              Reply#23 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:48 AM EST

                                              You are a sensible man Mr. Ed. Obama is clearly not perfect and I don't like every thing he does or supports (illegal immigration) but what you say is true of many more out there. It's the same Republican mantra. First, complain about being over taxed (no raised taxes in years) than when that's off the table, bring in regulations and say how over-extended they are. When that's done, then bring in something else like "family values" and the like. It's all the same 'ol, same 'ol.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #23.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST

                                              ed,

                                              You must be a Democrat shill.

                                              I respect opinions which may even be the opposite of my own, BUT please don't lie about your true affiliation. You words are very transparent.

                                              Anyone who owns a business, knows Obama is a job killing President. He is preventing S.Carolina from getting 1000 new NON Union jobs (Boeing). He is against the Keystone pipeline, for political reasons only.

                                              When Obamacare really takes effect , all our premiums will go up and we won't have much say in the kind of healthcare we get. We will be a lot closer to socialized medicine and every one knows it. Obamacare is abhorred by business owners.

                                                #23.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:02 PM EST

                                                "He is preventing S.Carolina from getting 1000 new NON Union jobs (Boeing). He is against the Keystone pipeline, for political reasons only."

                                                Two lies back to back. Up to par I see.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #23.3 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                                Ed thank for your take. I was a blue collar worker, now just retired collecting my "entitlement". I have noticed like you that my Federal taxes get lower every year. Nothing changed. Income same. Deductions the same. I believe it's a revenue problem, and who is against raising the revenues and for how many years have we tried trickle down. And Leona. The BLAME is NATIONWIDE, no party is innocent. Your soapbox that you stand on is a mit shakey

                                                  #23.4 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM EST

                                                  LEONA-2986819

                                                  ed,

                                                  You must be a Democrat shill.

                                                  Leona, I an a Conservative Indepedent and a business owner. Ed is 100% correct, until large companies see consumers spending money they are not going to expand and spend their money. It is NOT Obama causing them to hold onto their cash, it is an uncertain economic environment. The American people spending money is 70% of our economy and the lack of consumers is what is slowing new jobs and growth.

                                                  My taxes are not an issue for me since I have never had such a low tax base. Regulations sometimes suck but they do not affect my business and regarding "Obamacare" when or if it is enacted I will have an option to offer my employees. What I pay for my share of premiums will go down. I will also have the option to stop paying for their insurance, paying them more money that I have saved on insurance premiums and they can go out and shop for their own lower cost insurance and they can control what they pay and their coverage. Win Win..

                                                  When I get more consumers walking into the door I can hire more people and I will order more product, my suppliers will make more product and they will grow and hire more people... This is the only thing in America that "Creates Jobs" not politicians.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #23.5 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:44 PM EST

                                                  Mr Ed, you failed to mention what your business is and what regulations you are refering to. please be specific.

                                                    #23.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST

                                                    Hello?? Ed??

                                                    What business are you in, and what regulations are you refering to??

                                                    Hello??

                                                    (I think we lost Ed)

                                                      #23.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:10 PM EST
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                                                      fat bastard

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                                                      Reply#24 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:52 AM EST

                                                      Don't you Republicans remember the glory years of Bill Clinton with it's high employment, with its housing market not in shambles, with its "SURPLUS!" in the budget?? Don't you remember those glory years??

                                                      It was George W. Bush's policies that moved us from that surplus to the 10 trillion dollar! deficit he handed to President Obama. The fact that that deficit has increased under Obama due to Bush's tax giveaway to the Rich which the Republicans have refused to rescind along with placing in office of the worst bunch of "Republican do nothing, drag their feet" louts ever in the history of the country to be put into Congress!

                                                      • 6 votes
                                                      Reply#25 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 11:54 AM EST

                                                      First of all, Clinton was practically dragged by the hair by Republicans to force him to sign budget cuts. Do you believe for a second a Democrat would ever cut anything? You're a fool if you do. haha.

                                                      Second, You can blame the Democrat/Pelosi Congress for everything that happened in 2007 through 2010. In 2010 we were finally able to send 60+ Republicans to the House and get rid of Pelosi's liberal job killing policies.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #25.1 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:15 PM EST

                                                      The House has done nothing but sit on their hands or vote for bills that originated from the Oval Office. The one that comes to mind is the job creation bill that gives tax credits for business to hire veterans.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #25.2 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:25 PM EST

                                                      And where are the jobs Leona?

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                                                      #25.3 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST

                                                      Harry Reid is declaring all the Reublicans bills "dead on arrival" in the Senate. THAT'S WHERE THE JOBS bills ARE.

                                                        #25.4 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:31 PM EST

                                                        Only committees can keep legislation from a vote.

                                                        By the way, Which one bill is Reid supposedly holding back that you consider to be the best "jobs bill?" You know, your favorite. By number if you please.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #25.5 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:35 PM EST

                                                        Those aren't job bills, theyr'e mostly deregulation bills.

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                                                        #25.6 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST

                                                        Don't you remember he had a Republican Congress? He had to give in to what was right. That's why the economy was good.

                                                          #25.7 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 1:18 PM EST

                                                          Christie and Romney, both idiots and neither one care about getting this country on their feet. The Republicans ruined this country and two rich guys like these two cannot tell me they are going to look out for us. They are the 1%. The only one to fixt this mess is 4 more years of Obama and get rid of the Republican control who do nothing for us except fight Obama on everything to make themselves look good. Christie needs to bring more class into his act as well. Talking nasty to people may be ok in New Jersy but it is not ok everywhere else. Protestors have a right to speak up - look at the Republicans fighting to get the nomination, they are all acting liked spoiled brats.

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                                                          #25.8 - Mon Jan 9, 2012 4:33 PM EST
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