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DERRY, NH -- For once, Mitt Romney gave credit today for President Obama coming through on a campaign promise.
"Candidate Barack Obama was here speaking and he said he was going to bring big things to America," Romney said, standing in the same high school gymnasium in Derry, New Hampshire where then-Sen. Obama spoke on January 6, 2008. "Well, he did. And they came with big price tags. And they didn't work out so well. Big things. Bad things. Expensive things. He brought Obamacare. We don't want Obamacare. We don't need it, we don't want it. "
Romney repeated the mantra several times during today's rally, labeling the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill and other Democratic achievements of the past three years among President Obama's "big, bad things, expensive things."
Here in Romney's firewall state of New Hampshire -- where NBC/Marist polling conducted this week shows Romney enjoying a 20-point lead over his closest challenger -- the former Massachusetts governor cautioned the more than 900 supporters in attendance not to rest on their laurels in the final days before the primary.
"Let me tell you, don’t get too confident with those poll numbers. I've watched poll numbers come and go. Things change very quickly; it's very fluid. I need to make sure you guys get your friends to go out and you vote as well," Romney said.
And while today's crowd, warmed up by Romney-imported South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, was largely friendly, the candidate did face a brief disruption by a small but vocal group of Occupy protestors, who chanted "Mitt Kills Jobs," while the candidate looked on. As a chorus of pro-Romney chants drowned out the group, and police closed in on them, Romney smiled.
"Well we're lucky to live in a country where people are able to express their views," Romney said. "Although I do prefer when we do it with respect and civility."
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Eff you Romney you lying POS> Obama's health care program was based on yours you hypocritical SOB
Less government means more freedom for you and me to do as we please.
Nominate Dr Ron Paul for President of the United States of America 2012.
The road to PEACE is paved with FREEDOM.
Less government also means more tyranny, more irresponsibility, and more death. The next tornado that hits a city, according to Dr. Paul, is none of the government's business. It would be shameful to have to rely on Mexico and Canada to come to the aid of the stricken Americans.
The part of the Affordable Health Care Act that stuck in the craw of big insurance was cost savings in Medicare. Insurance was processing (passing through) claims and the Medicare fund was paying them 15% for the transition of information. That is totally unnecessary and was most likely a kickback of funds to big insurance only because of lobbying and crony Congress members refusing to vote to approve the medicare bill if big insurance donors didn't get free money.
Republicans have lied and smeared the AHCA for corrupt reasons, as is their habit. There would not be a viable Republican Party if they didn't represent wealth instead of their constituents. The Republican base is too income strapped and stingy to donate enough to operate a political party, let alone candidates.
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The part that stuck in my craw was the omission of any restraint on trial lawyers to bring frivolous claims that presently force doctors to prescribe expensive procedures for patients that they know are virtually needless just to protect themselves. It raises cost astronomically while making for long waits for people who might genuinely need the procedure. Lawyers are big Democrat supporters and so they get to continue to feast on doctors who must then pay big malpractice premiums. Why do you suppose Obama left that essential cost saving measure out if not for political reasons?
Because you don't get everything you want at one sitting. He said that. He even asked republicans to make suggestions and included them which they deny but we have seen some on tape. They forget about electronics but again they think we are stupid and don't pay attention to anything. I hope and pray that as the election goes on Americans start paying attention more and not just on one opinionated channel and check thinks out and then remember them. They don't try to remember things either. Now they seem to think everything was fine when Obama was elected and Obama ran it into the ground. How can that be? Everything doesn't happen instantly. It takes months. They don't understand that either. They will say anything to win. Everyone needs to know when it is true or not. And don't believe the lies.
Comrade Affinity,
You are an arrogant ass. We have had top red, o'bama long enough!! Take kyour welfare state and shove it. We have compassion for our fellow men, but there is no free lunch
Obama never took a single suggestion from the GOP when Obamacare was being fashioned. In fact he didn't fashion it - Reid and Pelosi shoved that think tank version through. They didn't seek his advice and why should they? They had no respect for him when he sat in the Senate and didn't offer a single bill and voted present, so why should they now? Republicans offered many suggestions and not one was accepted, thus dis-enfranchising almost 50% of Americans that they represented.
Oh for crying out loud, "Obamacare" was based off of Mitt Romney's plan in Massachusetts! Does he really think he's going to escape this arguement?
And, Romneys-plan was a POSITIVE thing b/c the state needed to get a hold of the high costs of healthcare, and not punish those who have healthcare to PAY for those that don't. Makes sense to me!
Obama-care was put together by a liberal think tank. It is similar to the plan that the Massachusetts legislature put together and which Obama signed but it is ludicrous to think that the Democrat Congress copied that state effort.
A huge element in the high cost of health care is the mass of frivolous lawsuits brought by the lawyers - aka Obama donors. Obama did nothing to stop their abuse, so please don't try to suggest that his primary motivation was to cut health care costs. Expansion of the federal government and control of citizenry - yes, cut cost - phooey!
Yip. HIs advisors, 3 of them were called to Washington, to give advice. But then again Gingrich gave advise to FAnnie and Freddie and look what happened to them. For what 1.6 million wasn't it? Has anyone figured out how many speeches would have to be made at 60K a whop to reach 1.6 million? Did he give that many?
We can agree that neither Obama nor Gingrich has any business being elected president?
Hypocrite! It's the same medical plan he proposed and enacted in liberal Mass. How soon they forget what they did.
Romney care didn't work. Neither did a similar attempt in Tennessee. That's why Obamacare won't work, either.
We already HAVE guaranteed plans for everyone. States have high risk pools and HIPAA plans, or are already guarantee issue. Another level of "insurance" is unnecessary and wasteful.
Obamacare needs to go away. The federal high risk plan may LOOK inexpensive, but it's not. If they want to make "insurance" more affordable, they could simply subsidize the plans that are already in place and have been for a long time. Adding another layer is ridiculous.
The health insurance "exchanges" ? Another wasteful plunder by dear leader. You can't buy insurance in California if you live in Florida... it doesn't work that way. But if you're still "in network", who cares?
Now "healthcare" is a different story. It's totally separate from "health insurance". These are two different things. If you want to fix "healthcare", maybe someone should ask why so many medical procedures are so expensive. Or I could save you the time... they're worth it.
No one is guaranteed anything. Buy it if you want, don't buy it if you don't want it. Forcing everyone to pay in regardless of their situation doesn't work.... they've already proven that in MA and TN. If they want to regulate it by making some rules like they have so far, that's fine. Minimum coverage for a policy, etc. That's good... helps make it easier to compare. But that's it. Leave the "everyone pays in" and "single payor" crap out of it. It'll do nothing but fail and cost more money and lives in the long run. If you take the incentive out of being a good doctor, who's going to want to be a good doctor? That's what you're doing with single payor. And they've already got an end around... they'll just stop accepting insurance. Many specialists already have.
Don't want it? Don't buy it. It's that simple.
Don't want it...don't buy it?
This is what caused our high healthcare costs to begin with. Those that pay for healthcare, are paying for the schmucks that REFUSE to buy it, or for those that are unemployed and can't afford it. You get sick, you get cancer, you get in an accident; sometimes a cup of tea doesn't work.
Who do you think has been paying for all those unexpected or desperation-filled trips to the ER over the last few decades?
You need to get out more often. In 2009 there were two incidents on TV news where women died on the floor of a hospital because the hospital would not treat their complaints due to their lack of health insurance. Their families as upset as any family would be. In every other developed nation, that scenario would not have happened. It brings up the question, is America a civilized nation? A Harvard study concluded that 45,000 Americans die every year simply due to the results of having no health insurance.
Of course, if someone in your family suffered that fate it would be no big deal. Even if there are fifteen times more Americans killed by negligence every year than died due to terrorism, that only adds up to less than half a million American people since 9/11. There is no homeland security for those victims if Republicans have their way. That is a right to life issue if there ever was one.
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Wandering, nonsensical. Pulling figures out of rear end. Ignorant . Go to med school and help ,then
Hey - Obama is using the European socialist model in his revamping of America despite that Europe is imploding before our very eyes due to deficit spending and increasing costs of entitlements. His stimulus plan to get America back on track was the same as the one Japan showed to be a failure. Why would he care if the health care program he is copying is a failure. The agenda is about expanding the federal government's reach into the lives of the citizenry, not what is good for America.
If you ask unemployed persons to pay for anything but subsistance you are not going to get too far.Any countries that have a large unemployment problem must solve that one first.We can't pay for the huge cost of our overseas commitments and expect to advance our welfare even if we insist that the super rich pay their fair share .We must get a grip on these companies that are outsourcing our jobs.Expecting our government to controling the problem is reasonable,but not by paying those companies that do so is ridiculous.the politicians are capable of stopping them by enacting punishment only and that would be successful.We need full employment and that is the only way that a country can tax paying for it.We must also reduce our involvement in foreign wars.
The big lie screamed enough is believed by idiots! The rich don't pay their fair share!
What is a citizen's fair share? Is it more than nothing? If so, then you would think that any sane person would decry the fact that 47% pay no income tax as not paying one's fair share before going after those who already pay well over 80% of the income taxes collected now. Obama lies and his idiot minions goosestep along behind him.
I am not rich but I do pay taxes. Before I ask those making more than me to pay another cent I would want those other deadbeats to "PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE!!" There is no way that 47% of American households cannot afford to pay even a penny in income taxes. 47% are not unemployed!! Obama might want to promote class warfare as his "change" but he cannot be allowed to spread the lie that it is about a "fair share!" Obama is buying votes by allowing so many to avoid their duty to support the country and then promotes class warfare by putting a blame on those who pay much more than their share.
We desperately need a president who can lead America in a positive direction.
Obamacare and Romneycare are NOT the same thing, but they are similar in how they are alleged to operate and what they are alleged to "fix". Google them.
So then I would expect that liberals must think Romney is a god! He after all invented something that Obama copied. Wouldn't it then make sense to elect Romney since he is obviously much more knowledgeable than Obama - since the latter had to copy Romney rather than come up with his own idea?
Add that Romney was a Republican working with a legislature that was 85% Democrat and it becomes a no-brainer. Instead of whining that the other party obstructed him, he accomplished much working with them. Isn't this exactly the kind of leader we need in a president? The present one has already admitted he can't lead, so let's elect Romney!
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And Mitt will tell you it didn't work.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v30n1/cpr30n1-1.html
"He brought Obamacare. We don't want Obamacare. We don't need it, we don't want it. "
READ MY LIPS: WE DO NOT WANT ROMNEY BUT WE DO WANT AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL. Romneny, like most of the 1%ers, doesn't have to worry about how he is going to pay for their healthcare for him and his family. We, as the 99ers, do have to be concerned. JUST SAY 'NO" TO ROMNEY.....
And no to Huntsman, Palin, Bachmann, Santorum, Trump, especially Gingrich and to both of the Pauls. We are not that stupid! To even consider them as pretending to be a leader.
And most of those 1% - including the Congress - are Democrats. Soros, Stryker, Kaiser, Buffett - all billionaires benefiting from their purchase of Obama. Add most of Hollywood and athlete entertainers, the millionaires living in the big city penthouses, and the union thugs. And do not forget that Wall Street gave so much more to Obama than they did to McCain.
If your desire is to destroy the greatest country ever, just contunue to vote for the Democrats. Like true socialists they will promise everything to every man until their takeover is complete, then they will exterminate the opposition and freedom is gone. Take a look at Russia from 1917 through the fall of the USSR and see how it works.
Open your eyes and see what is happening in Europe. It is caused by increasing entitlements and deficit spending there. Yet the Democrats forge ahead doing the same here. I loved it when Obama went over there is first year and told them that they had to deficit spend to get out of the problem and the world leaders told him he was an idiot! He went from there to give his infamous curtsy to the Saudi Prince. I am still seeking a single foreign leader that does not consider him a joke. The French PM said it best: "Obama is naive and arrogant, which is a deadly combination for a world leader. Of course, no one really considers him a world leader. Hell, he can't even lead his own party.
There are no interstate barriers. I worked at an insurance company for 34 years and I know. However, a company has to be licensed in the state it does business and that can be expensive and they may just not want to do it. Santorum was talking to some lady about paying a surcharge for illnesses which doesn't exist at least at the company I worked at and I think State Farm is the same. With car insurance or life insurance you may have to pay extra but not health insurance. With health insurance you are just usually denied before the ACFA was enacted. I personally believe you should pay a surcharge because you are sick and know you will get more money out of the company. That is they way businesses usually do. Maybe these yahoos wouldn't be opposed if they knew what they were talking about. Santorum is a big disappointment as all of them have been when exposed. Keep on playing the videos even though we know they hate em. Keeps them exposed.
America is plain stupid, they elected a communist dupe and we are paying for it. Get the socialists out before it is too late.
Please don't call Republicans elistist, that is the pot calling the kettle black. Democrats look down their snoots at everyone and try to set themselves up as "saviors" to all those little people below them.
America is plain stupid, they elected a communist dupe and we are paying for it
What would you know about communism? Have you ever lived in and experienced a communist country?
The Soviet Union has died, but not before your brain went into hibernation. Communism is a failure and so are you for being stuck on it.
Not until 2008. Now I have.
We are not EVEN CLOSE to being a communist country.
How are we different? We even have the main stream media cheer-leading for Obama - pure propaganda instead of news.. Can you even remember single example of NBC saying a negative thing about Obama these past three years. How does the media criticism compare to the Bush years?
We also have fox news saying nothing but negative things about Obama also, nothing good at all. If this administration was really communist as you say, Rush , Beck and anyone saying something negative would be off to the Gulag.
This proves to me that you have never watched Fox News. They say plenty positive and negative about Obama and Romney and everyone else. Even commentators like O'Reilly often pick up for Obama - much to my chagrin. They even invite Obama backers and advisers to give the Obama view rather than give their version of him and then load up with people on the other side - like NBC and the rest of the Obama propaganda machine. Fox News is the only network that comes close to giving a balanced view and then allow one to make up their own mind. It is probably the reason why it is the most watched News network on cable by far and even why O'Reilly is the most watched commentator - beating the one in second place by a factor of three.
I have seen Rush many times, I saw Beck in Washington. They are the 2 biggest hot air ballons on the planet.
Fox news have admitted they are an entertainment news program.
Like I said earlier, you know nothing of communism. and this country is not even near a communist state.
I love it because on tv a person is saying Obama is like a monarch. A butterfly? Since he was talking about a recess apptment and Bush made 60 whileObama has only made about 30 in the same amount of time. Boohoo! Those Texas monarchs and such big hypocrites. I have never seen the like and some people believe that stuff. People the republicans think anyone opposing them are just stupid. I happen to think those supporting them are. That is based on what they say and do of course.
Did you vote for obama? Stupidity exemplified!
Difference was that Bush made the recess appointment when Congress was in recess. Obama made his recess appointment when Congress was not in recess.
Personally I think he was right in doing so and maybe it is not such a bad thing.
All this arguing is moot. The Supreme Court will rule obamacare unconstitutional. ANYONE BUT obama IN 2012!
Must insist they can prove citizenship, open college records for scrutiny, have held at least one legitimate job, and not be a cohort of America haters.
A Harvard study concluded that 45,000 Americans die every year simply due to the results of having no health insurance. In every other developed nation that does not happen. It brings up the question, is America a civilized nation?
There are fifteen times more Americans killed by negligence every year than have died due to terrorism. That adds up to about half a million American people since 9/11. There is no homeland security for those victims. That is a right to life issue if there ever was one.
A bunch of ivory tower academics putting together a study to promote the liberal agenda. Wow - what a surprise. There is no way to prove that even one person died for want of health insurance. Beyond that, there have been studies showing that a number of people die in hospitals because of incompetence by nurses and staff. One could argue that not having insurance is protection from death by hospital bureaucracy. Did Harvard factor this in?
PEOPLE!! PEOPLE!! PEOPLE!!
YOU REALY WANT REPUBLICAN CONTROL!!!!
This is for the Republicans, History of past!!
. August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon closed the "gold window" by implementing the U.S. dollar's complete departure from the gold standard.[14] "After that day, all money would be political money rather than money of real value.
Where did all the GOLD go!!!!
THEN!!!!
Reagan cut the marginal tax rate on the wealthiest of Americans from 70% to 38%. He promised it would spur an orgy of investment and rocket the economy to new levels of production and prosperity. Instead, his supply side economics did the exact opposite. It produced the deepest recession since the Great Depression.
THEN!!
Output fell 2.2% in 1982 while budget deficits soared. When Reagan took office in 1981, the national debt stood at $995 billion. Twelve years later, by the end of George H.W. Bush’s presidency, it had exploded to $4 trillion. Reagan was a B grade movie actor and a doddering, probably clinically senile president, but he was a sheer genius at rewarding his friends by saddling other people with debts!!!!
These twin deficits trade and budget combine to well over $1 trillion a year of borrowing. Their effect is to bury the world’s economy in dollar debts, dollars that increasingly buy less and less. As mentioned above, no one knows when the world will say, enough. Japan holds a reported $1 trillion supply of dollars, China, more than half a trillion. Both have bought dollars in effect loaning equivalent sums to the U.S.in order to keep the value of their own currencies low and therefore make their own goods cheaper in American markets.
Nixon - and his successor Ford - were liberals - like Rockefeller and many other Republicans. Back then Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and Trent Lott were Democrats - while being very conservative. This example doesn't make your point.
Reagan took us from the worst economic point in history - 14% inflation - and gave us the greatest economic boon just a few years later. Picking and choosing facts like this could also be done to Clinton. Forget the good times and just remember that he left Bush with a recession in 2000.
Let's see - nearly 1 trillion in debt to 4 trillion 12 years later. That comes to 250 billion a year. Obama has done 1.4 trillion a year for each of his three years and claims that it will continue for 8 more - if we continue his agenda. That would be an average of just less than 6 times what Reagan/Bush did.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Obamacare is ruining this country, insurance has got way to high because of it and dont cover half as much as it did... but thats what you get when you give it to ever one and half never pays a cent for it.
Joe, the coverage you complain about as not gone into effect yet. In case you haven't noticed, insurance premiums have been skyrocketing for years. They went up after everything.
Does Mittens have even the slightest shred of credibility left?
I'll take Obamacare over Republicare, which is no health care at all, except for the wealthy. As for the poor and middle class, the best health plan would be a bullet in a gun: This way you can take "care" of yourself instead of facing financial ruin when hit with major medical bills. As reported in the news, some people were doing exactly that before Obamacare took effect.
I agree ... having just moved back to Canada after 23 years in the US. Socialized medicine is a much better alternative than the ridiculous system that currently exists in the US leaving millions under or uninsured. Or left with no alternative other than bankruptcy when faced with a catastrophic illness or injury. Americans are nuts to be so vehemently opposed to nationalized medicine. Canada has socialized medicine, but is not even close to being a Socialist country. Americans are so ignorant or just plain lazy when it comes to educating themselves.
We have to PAY for Obamacare for 4 years until it goes into effect.
grandall, stay in Canada with all our draft dodgers and druggies from the 60's
Really? I don't see where this man gets off with his rhetoric. It cost money to even run the government for an hour. This man is selling snake oil and he knows it. He destroyed other businesses with Bain...(ominous)...now wants to tout a economic proposal to get jobs coming back to the states? The truth will come out, and it will expose the fact that this man's state is ranked among the lowest in job growth and among the highest in losses. Shoot, he even blames the President for passing a T.A.R.P. bill during the Bush admin. Hey Romney...why don't you blame that crustascean you got endorsing you as well. He was all for signing that stimulous package.
By the way, i hope you don't ask that man for any ideas on foreign policies...the Pres. got Bin Laden without asking him or the public's reluctance to electing him.
The only successes Obama has had is in the foreign sector where he continued the Bush policies - including but not limited to the killing of OBL. Now that he is reversing those policies - especially by telegraphing the enemy as to when we will pull out so that they can take back all the gains made - we are seeing him snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. What a loser he is, and what a loser he is making of this country in the eyes of every foreign leader.
I happen to agree with o'l Mitt here, at least with regard to the Health Care Reform legislation. What I don't understand is why this particular big, bad thing was a good idea for the state of Massachusetts, and a bad idea for the country as a whole.
Every time he talks about, he frames the issue on the basis of its constitutionality, which is under debate in the courts. But the real core issue among the average voters, who are not experts in constitutional case law, is the practicality of the law itself: its failure to control rising medical costs, its much-hated insurance mandate, and the belief that we have just created another mushrooming entitlement program, the cost of which will only become evident over time.
Why, Mitt, was this a good idea for Massachusetts, yet somehow a bad idea for the other 49 states?
That law will be the millstone around his neck which sinks his candidacy; that and the sense that he is not real and genuine about himself of his beliefs.
He's poised to take the nomination only because all the other candidates are more greatly flawed.
Lemme guess ... Romney is gonna do the 'ol flip-flop and call the Paul Ryan Plan *RomenyCare* now ... good luck Willard in becoming the third most hated-man in America after Bush & Ryan ...
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To Romney, any politician not named Willard Mitt something is an enemy to be lied about. However, just like all issues, Romney has eight different positions on the president, depending on the demographic of his audience. On health care he has nine. The ninth is his actual record.
Lets just have another Civil War in America. Winner takes all. We the people against the GLOBALISTS.