Will lib light bulbs ever light?

"I'm glad it's doing a little better now. I'm sure the president will want to take credit for it -- for any improvement," Romney said. "Guess what? He doesn't deserve it because everything that's been done has hurt this recovery, everything done by this president."

Romney is right.

Jobs are a natural creation / function of society ... you have to actively hinder it to get to where we are today after 3 years ... the worst since the Great Depression - the first Great Experiment in Government Hindrance.

I can't understand why this is so difficult for libs to understand, why they think government creates jobs.

If you think about it, where in America history were there not jobs around before there was government ... from the earliest settlements in the east to the pioneers in the midwest to the trailblazers, trappers on the left coast ... people organized their tasks and paid others to do tasks ... way before their was government to control everything.

The American spirit created jobs and built this country, not American government.

Yea, I know ... that didn't flip any lib light bulbs on .... libs just won't get it.

You could explain to a child , that when it comes down to it - human job creation is as natural as growing grass. All grass needs is the proper environment and it will grow ... and heck ... even it will create jobs better than government ..... landscape jobs of mowing, trimming, edging, removing grass from unwanted areas such as flowerbeds, etc.

Funny, we kill grass, we compact the soil, we place forms and then pour concrete for sidewalks and driveways etc ... yet wherever there is an expansion joint, a crack in the concrete - grass grows back despite all these efforts - it's simply natural.

Obama has killed jobs with "Wipe-Out" legislation such as Obamacare and Dodd-Frank, "Roundup" regulations by the EPA .... created a drought of business certainity and consumer confidence .... and laid 5 trillion of new debt bricks ... and 3 years later we have a little grass trying to grow back in the expansion joints of Obama's policies.

Most kiddos would understand this .... libs simply won't allow themselves to see the light.

Regardless .... Romney is right ... and thankfully most Americans, even children, can understand it - in one way or another.

Got it; Obama doesn't like grass.

What is Romney's opinion on the housing deluge of credit propped up by the Federal Reserve followed by the lending drought? Metaphorically, I don't suspect that to be considered a natural weather pattern.

Maybe, though, you are only trying to appeal to elementary school level of understanding?

Metaphorically, I don't suspect that to be considered a natural weather pattern.

Duh.

What do you think precipitated the economic crisis?

Do you really think even evil pioneer bankers in the 1800s were stupid enough to take the loss on BS loans to people who couldn't afford the loans?

No one in history would write those loans without big government mandates and coercion backed up by government sponsored enterprises to dump the risk ultimately on the tax payer.

Big government social engineering.

Maybe, though, you are only trying to appeal to elementary school level of understanding?

Yea .... I thought you could get the gist though .... sorry it went over your head.

bob-1805084

Will lib light bulbs ever light?

Romney is right.

Jobs are a natural creation / function of society ... you have to actively hinder it to get to where we are today after 3 years ... the worst since the Great Depression - the first Great Experiment in Government Hindrance.

boOOBY trap

Put your lights on!!!!

Here's a chart, showing monthly job losses/gains in the private sector since the start of the Great Recession. The image makes a distinction — red columns point to monthly job totals under the Bush administration, while blue columns point to job totals under the Obama administration.

http://wamo.info/pa/120106_privatejobs.jpg

(Note: 2011 was the best year for private-sector job growth since 2005, and the second best since 1999.)

BLS data shows the U.S. private sector has now added 1.89 million jobs in 2011, well ahead of last year’s private-sector total of 1.2 million, and the best year for businesses since 2005

FYI: we were hemorrhaging 750,000

MS. BARNES: Well, the economic policy and the focus on the stimulus – we walked in the door knowing that things were bad and making assumptions and calculations based on that information. After the President was elected – and I remember sitting in the transition office in Chicago early on – [WE FOUND OUT JUST HOW BAD THINGS WERE] I mean we were shedding about 750,000 jobs a month, which is almost unimaginable; and, certainly now, with 21 months of – of job growth, we realize we’ve been able to pull out of that.

So, the stimulus was a smart thing to do. It was a necessary thing to do, and it got us off the brink. At the same time, it put in place long-term investments – things that are going to grow our economy; help us better educate our kids, better educate our workforce. So, it was that combination of short term and long term that we thought was so important, and we were making calculations based on the best information we had at the time.

http://rolandmartinreports.com/blog/2011/12/wh-domestic-policy-advisor-melody-barnes-on-the-impact-of-the-stimulus-bill-saving-the-auto-industry-leaving-the-white-house-video/

Just so you know , boOOBY trap,

Melody Barnes has worked closely with Pres. Barack Obama, starting in the 2008 campaign as part of the presidential transition team and on into the White House from day one of his administration. I suggest you watch this video Sponge BOB

Melody Barnes On The Impact Of The Stimulus Bill, Saving The Auto Industry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PpPrg1VPsDo

See Bush and RepubliCons LIED then and now; you swallowed it hook, line, and sinker Sponge BOOB!!!

I take no sides in partisan politics.

Romney and Obama aren't going to CHANGE anything.

They're paid for by the same people that "precipitated" the crisis.

Hey Bev,

Sorry ... but either the dog ate your chart and barfed up just meaningless bars or you have been digging in the liberal blog dumpsters again - either way it is meaningless, no dates no explanations nothing identified ....

So the BLS says 2011 was the best year for business since 2005 ... 1.89 million jobs added. I notice you didn't provide a link where it possible to figure out what you were talking about.

Regardless, since the federal government doesn't produce much other than collecting revenue from individuals (their jobs) and business - federal revenue is a pretty good bottom line indicator (an $80,000 a year engineer working in 2008 is not the same as the same guy working at Mickey D's in 2011 at $8.00 an hour .... although the BLS would treat each as equivalent - each simply one job)

Federal revenue in 2005 was $2.1536 trillion. Federal revenue for 2011 was $2.1737 trillion. So your numbers do correlate when you adjust to constant value. Problem is that you stated that 2011 was the best since 2005. Actually 2006 at $2.4069, 2007 at $2.5680 and 2008 at $2.5240 all were better than 2005 and anything and everything under Obama.

In fact, when revenue is considered as a per centage of GDP - Obama is worse than evey since president since FDR!

Doesn't seem to hold up, huh?

About hemoraging 750,000 jobs when Obama took over .... too bad he didn't focus on jobs like America wanted, like he said he would ... instead of doing Obamacare, Frank-Dodd ....

Regarding Ms.Melody ... she is an idiot.

She didn't have a clue then and never has sense. When has Obama been right on one of his summer of recovery predictions etc.

Sheez the guy can't even do a budget that gets ONE SINGLE VOTE!

The guy spends - DRIVES UP $5 TRILLION IN NEW DEBT AND CANNOT CREATE ONE NEW JOB IN 3 YEARS - UNDER HIS OWN TERM (That's not counting making up for loses under Bush - Just Obama's loses!)

And Btw Bev - You might want to let Ms. Melody know ... the Great Recession was over in June 2009. We have been a recovery for the last 2 1/2 years. She might want to know that since she is an economic expert and everything.

Have a good evening or whatever Bev.

ONE NEW JOB IN 3 YEARS

Should be ... ONE NEW NET JOB IN 3 YEARS

bob-1805084

And Btw Bev - You might want to let Ms. Melody know ... the Great Recession was over in June 2009. We have been a recovery for the last 2 1/2 years. She might want to know that since she is an economic expert and everything.

boOOBY TRAP, your faux stats from the Koch bother's Cato Institute, if that is where you got your right wing talking points from all just like you full of Lies 7 holes; Sponge BOOB. Why would the BLS lie?

You even contradicted your own dumb @ss by admitting we have been in a recovery for the last 2 1/2 years. So what did GM do for the economy; idiot? Tell the people who are receiving Obamacare it was a waste of time.

The only waste of time that is obvious are the clowns lying and pontificating whom you support, who coincidentally, are on their way out from their government jobs.

Have a good evening or whatever Bev.

You can go to hell!!

Melody said the administration didn't realize how bad the hemorrhaging was. That because Bush lied by not putting the 2 costly wars on the books. But, what do you know about facts? You are an idiot.

bob-1805084

So the BLS says 2011 was the best year for business since 2005 ... 1.89 million jobs added. I notice you didn't provide a link where it possible to figure out what you were talking about.

One more thing

Yes Bob,

In fact, people have been lending money for thousands of years. Banks for hundreds of years. they know how to lend money. They know how to evaluate risk.

So, why would they make such stupid loans?? Because 1.) they were coerced into it by the Democrats, and 2.) they were allowed to immediately sell the crap mortgages ( and the risk,) and still make a fee from each transaction.

Watch the documentary "inside job"

Romney keeps focus on 1% ?????????????

Romney and Obama aren't going to CHANGE anything.

They're paid for by the same people that "precipitated" the crisis.

Bingo!

Some good news for America - Economy is gaining momentum with no thanks to the GOP Tea-Retards and Romney would sell this Country out on a 10,000 dollar bet.

Someone shouldask him how letting banks and car industries fail would have helped. And ending unemployment insurance paymentsand giving more tax breaks to people who have 7 trillions stashed would helped. And then he needs to tell us how many votes a corporation gets. Each? Noneof course.

bev,

just to let you know, no one recieves obamacare until 2014

If Romney gets in he will drop the minimum wage by $2.00 hour, Exempted employers from child labor laws, Expanded the work week, Reduced health and work place safety laws, Ban Unions, Give California exporters full duty-free access to the rest of the States, Ship our Manufacturing to Asian Nations, Do nothing about the Unfair trade with China & Japan. Wake up America, the GOP Tea-Retards will destroy this Nation with their greed for power to the 1% !!!!!!!

I read these Bob and I am just starting not to like you.........Your attitude is interesting......No regulation...in other words, like the early america, do nothing see what happens......

We have become an evil country of pickpocketers .

So, according to Romney, Obama deserves all the blame and when things get better none of the credit.

Does that make any sense to anyone? Not to me.

Romney's policies are clear. Tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the poor. Will that help the economy? NO.

Will deregulating the universe help the economy? NO

Republicans have no new ideas to fix the economy and jobs. Furthermore they don't care about the middle class.

Since none of you know how to do the calculation to get the unemployment rate number, none of you noticed that last month's number was revised- up. Initially reported out at 8.6%, it is now 8.7%.

So, next month, when those seasonal sales jobs disappear, what do you suppose will happen to the unemployment number? It's going to take a lot more than 15,000 people leaving the labor market, (last month's number of folks who probably all hit the lottery, or something), to cause a decline in the unemployment rate.

It kind of explains this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/01/05/students_laugh_at_obama_when_he_tells_them_you_inspire_me.html

The last few Obama campaign rallies, (that taxpayers pay for, because Obama says they are not campaign rallies), have been held in high school gyms. Why? Because principals can compel students to show up and fill the joint, that's why. Last year, doing these rallies on college campuses didn't work out so well- they could not fill the venues. Thus- go where attendees have no choice.

That does not mean they have to take Obama seriously, though.

I'm sure glad I was not in the retinue that had to go back to AF 1 with him. Laugh at a narcissist, and holy heck gets raised.

Isn't it funny that First Read missed this?

"The costly mistakes of "W", What a mess they got us in, they dumped 10.7 Trillion on the incoming President. The GOP Tea-Retards are total losers for what they did to this Country.

The spending in the 4th quarter will propel the economy and jobs forward in the first two quarters. Sorry Republicans, you'll have to stop saying Obama is a failure as things get better and better or you'll look stupid.

Fine dining tradition continues for the 1%, trickle up is working !!!

Whoops- edit to my post. It was 50,000 people who left the labor force last month, added to the 315,000 who must have hot the jackpot the month before. The civilian labor force participation rate is down to 1983 levels- that 1% must encompass an awful lot of people. Or the lottery must have bigger payouts than I thought.

Romney said the 1% are the ones in need of aid and its about time we help them. We need immediate cuts in Social Security - must sacrifice to help the Rich.

Romney’s biggest problem at the moment; his refusal to release his tax returns.

He doesn’t want people to know how wealthy he is, or how little of his total income he pays taxes on.

This will come back to haunt him sooner than we know.

His tax proposal says it all a 60% increase for poor people a 2.5% tax cut to the middle class and a 15% tax cut for the wealthy so they can create jobs? So if tax cuts create jobs and the wealthy has had 11 years of tax cut how come our unemployment rate is not 2%?

People on the right are fools. Obama and just about everyone else has said this recovery will be like no other. Lots of up and downs before we level out and we may never see things like they used to be. The whole housing market and lending thing got well out of hand to the point all it took was a bunch of idiots to knock down the house of cards. We made millionaire after millionaire but at a cost. We stagnated the wages of the middle class and poor people and raised prices to beat the band so a few could benefit! Jubak wrote an excellent pice that summed up with the thought we do not know how long this recovery will take because we are in uncharted waters. Before we could count on a recovery where the government provided revenue until the private sector kicked in and started hiring. Now it is different and globalizationas us with our pants dow long after the dance is over. Now we have weathered the storm provided to us by the idots on the right and we are looking at them trying to replace the mentally challenged Bush with another rich folks lackey who appears well qualified to lead that party because he is too stupid to see the problem so there can never be a solutiion from him.

"People on the right are fools."

Nope, all wrong there...............

People on the right are tools.

And, Can't Understand Normal Thinking.

Great comment.....if you are attempting to demonstrate the common liberal practice of "when you have no substantive reply, simply hurl an inane insult or two".

Well done, Behind!

Obviously, spidey, my thoughts and comments have a direct impact the way your underwear gets twisted in a knot.

double post

..........................."A Vote for the GOP T-Retards is the Gate to Hell" !!!!

Bev,

Although I'm sure the Koch brothers know the definition of a recession, they didn't fabricate the definition.

Btw - A recession is defined as basically 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth. Bush's recession, by definition bagan December 2007, peaked in September 2008 and ended in June 2009. Again - by economic definition - not a "talking point" or "faux stat".

The stats on revenue are from Office of Management and Budget, Historical Tables, Table 1.3 ; http:/www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

Regarding Ms. Melody's claim that they were mislead because of Bush's unfunded wars .... tell her that just because the wars were not budgeted does not mean that we don't know how much was spent .... we spent $760 billion in the 8 years under Bush.

You might mention to her that the 8 years of spending was 1/2 of Obama's over spending in 2011 alone!

Regarding you go to hell .... I said for you to have a good evening ... then realizing it was 3 AM (morning) added or "whatever." No offense was intended.

Have a good day Bev.

Peter

No regulation ... see what happens.

We had over 158,000 pages of federal regulations at the end of 2009.

Do you really think most bad stuff isn't covered?

Do you really think we needed another 5,280 pages of Dodd-Frank that didn't even address Fannie or Freddie - the cause of the recession?

Do you really think we need a new an additional new reulation every 2 hours and 20 minutes?

Poor Beverly, despises all who disagree or dare challenge her "facts". Typical LeftyLibDem hypocrisy and self-indulgent ignorance...project their own shortcomings and dirty tricks on others, such as blaming and hating. It's such a hoot to hear LeftyLibDems accuse others of blaming when their avowed guru of blame, BO, instituted what seems to the new national political pastime. And hating...the LeftyLibDems quickly label any opposition or contrary point of view as hating as in homophobes or commitment to de-select the current failed POTUS. Though LeftyLibDems don't corner the market on calling other people stuipid, they sure come close. Best defense is a good offensive, eh Lefties?

boOOBY TRAP

Re: one more thing: I don't why it didn't post.

Here's the deal. Since you didn't like the chart and the link I provided with it; go to the source the BlS website. You are so misguided.

@disgruntaled citizen

bev,

just to let you know, no one recieves obamacare until 2014

You too are a misguided tool.

ObamaCares: Breast Cancer Patient Writes Open Apology To Obama For Not Supporting Healthcare Plan

In a Los Angeles Times op-ed, Spike Dolimite Ward reveals that she has breast cancer — third stage breast cancer. She found out three weeks ago, and first on her agenda?

An apology to President Barack Obama.

Ward had been a die-hard Obama fan during the historic election; but since that time, like many Americans, she felt the president had let his supporters down, especially the middle-class. She even changed her bumper-sticker from “Got Hope” to “Got Nope”.

The background story:

Ward’s husband lost his cushy entertainment industry job. They were able to keep their COBRA coverage for $1,300 a month,but then that ran out, leaving them uninsured for two years.

Due to the pre-existing condition clause in President Obama’s healthcare plan, she has been able to get coverage, and says her experience dealing with the administration has been a much better experience than dealing with private insurance companies.

Read below for an excerpt of her apology:

Fortunately for me, I’ve been saved by the federal government’s Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan, something I had never heard of before needing it. It’s part of President Obama’s healthcare plan, one of the things that has already kicked in, and it guarantees access to insurance for U.S. citizens with preexisting conditions who have been uninsured for at least six months. The application was short, the premiums are affordable, and I have found the people who work in the administration office to be quite compassionate (nothing like the people I have dealt with over the years at other insurance companies.) It’s not perfect, of course, and it still leaves many people in need out in the cold. But it’s a start, and for me it’s been a lifesaver — perhaps literally.

Which brings me to my apology. I was pretty mad at Obama before I learned about this new insurance plan. I had changed my registration from Democrat to Independent, and I had blacked out the top of the “h” on my Obama bumper sticker, so that it read, “Got nope” instead of “got hope.” I felt like he had let down the struggling middle class. My son and I had campaigned for him, but since he took office, we felt he had let us down.

So this is my public apology. I’m sorry I didn’t do enough of my own research to find out what promises the president has made good on. I’m sorry I didn’t realize that he really has stood up for me and my family, and for so many others like us. I’m getting a new bumper sticker to cover the one that says “Got nope.” It will say “ObamaCares.”

http://blacklikemoi.com/2011/12/news/obamacares-breast-cancer-patient-writes-open-apology-to-obama-for-not-supporting-healthcare-plan/

FYI: you better stop throwing your idiot bombs. They make you look more ignorant; hateful, misinformed, reprehensible and basically delusional.

Effective September 23, 2010

Insurers are prohibited from dropping policyholders when they get sick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act

As a result of the landmark health care bill passed this year, starting Sept. 23, employers have to allow children under age 26 to be added as a dependent on a parent's health insurance plan. Previously, firms often set an age limit of 19, or if a child was a full-time student, 23.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-09-09/business/sc-cons-0909-started-20100909_1_health-insurance-dependent-coverage-health-care

Does that look like the year 2014 to you?

bob-1805084

Bev,

Although I'm sure the Koch brothers know the definition of a recession, they didn't fabricate the definition.

Regarding Ms. Melody's claim that they were mislead because of Bush's unfunded wars .... tell her that just because the wars were not budgeted does not mean that we don't know how much was spent .... we spent $760 billion in the 8 years under Bush.

You might mention to her that the 8 years of spending was 1/2 of Obama's over spending in 2011 alone!

Critics Still Wrong on What’s Driving Deficits in Coming Years
Economic Downturn, Financial Rescues, and Bush-Era Policies Drive the Numbers
Updated June 28, 2010

The data in this analysis has been updated, but this version has a detailed critique of a misleading report by the Heritage Foundation that places blame for the deficits on rapid growth in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest costs, and dismisses the significance of weak revenues in general and the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts in particular.

Heritage Foundation’s Analysis is Misleading

A recent Heritage Foundation report claims that tax cuts and other policies initiated during the Bush administration are not a significant factor behind the deficits we face in the coming decade.[10] Heritage places blame for the deficits squarely on rapid growth in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest costs, and dismisses the significance of weak revenues in general and the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts in particular. But Heritage’s analysis is both misguided and seriously misleading.

Heritage ignores the fact that rapidly-rising interest costs — one of its “culprits” behind rising outlays — result in significant part from the tax cuts and other fiscal policies of the Bush era . The tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan accounted for over $2.6 trillion of our national debt by the end of 2008 and, if continued, will add another $7 trillion in debt by 2019. In that year alone, about $450 billion of our interest bill will stem from those two policies. It is disingenuous to tar interest as a “fast-growing” spending program while ignoring which policies — including tax cuts — account for that fact.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3036

Okay Bo00BY, read it and then try to defend it.

"Policy Changes Under Two Presidents"

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html

Ron Paul.

Mitt Romney, well in Sioux City he said he wants Navy ship production to go from 9 to 16 ships per year. Until when? Until there isn't an ocean view without a big a$$ boat in it?

Only one man will stop the undeclared wars.

Only one man is delusional enough to think you can just wish away the bad guys and conflict.

Obama may be gutless and not have the courage to face reality, but heck, even he is not that delusional.

Mitt Romney, well in Sioux City he said he wants Navy ship production to go from 9 to 16 ships per year. Until when? Until there isn't an ocean view without a big a$$ boat in it?

And that would be opposed to say Obama .... and his actions that will leave us with the smallest US Navy since before WW I?

In a time of intercontinental missiles, cruise missles ... nuclear weapons ... a time when our economy is linked to the global economy ....

Any one with a functioning brain stem should be able to determine who definitely is not the man.

If supporting the tent of globalization means that the United States has to strong-arm its way around the world like a muscle-bound, debt-ridden deadbeat then maybe it shoud reconsider how it does business.

I guess if most of America became as paranoid as yourself and the Republican Party would like them to be then we would never have enough war ships.

NOW, I understand why bobby is in such a cranky mood all the time! He stays up too late. Bobby, you need to turn off the compy about 9 PM and go directly to bed. If you start getting a good night sleep, why, you may wake up with a whole new outlook on life! The sun will shine, the birds will sing, and your mood will be SOOO much better!

It will also allow you to take in information more accurately, and then you will go to work for the Obama 2012 campaign, since you will feel very sorry about the nonsense you have spouted!

Obama may be gutless and not have the courage to face reality,

tell that to Al-Queda.

and his actions that will leave us with the smallest US Navy since before WW I?

Large standing naval forces are a thing of the past. You guys cry about spending, yet reject cuts to the most wasteful part of our tax dollars. Does hypocrite ring a bell?

bob-1805084

I dont think you know what you are talking about. Obama passed health care....Presidents have been trying to do that for 100 years........He did that for me and for you. There is obviously no political benny to himself, as we have noticed in the polls and such (not that any of this was a suprised, he ran for president based on this platform). Our military is 14 times more powerful than any other country on the earth. Do you really need one rated (and I mean rated by our US military) 14 times higher than any other counrty? And that whole WW1 one thing is just propaganda. We had 18 ships prior to WW 1 and it is impossible for us to reduce our navy to level. So you just dont know what you are speaking of......sorry

All they did was cut back the increases in spending to the military. In fact, these last cuts are still increases.

Some republicans need to read more.

bob-1805084 are you related to Bob-1136191?.......I use to read his crazy blogs too.....The interesting thing is that they have the same look and feel as the first bob's blogs. Don't be a coward Bob....blogging to mislead and muddy the waters is a low form of existance. To dumbify one person with your factless dribble is a crime against humanity. Crawl back under your rock bob.....

Bob,

I could have field day on what you have tried to say...your history is confused. There was a government during those pioneering and western expansion days. True, cavemen probably had few elections, but they aren't here anymore to tell us if they did or didn't. If you look at the Great Depression, the biggest criticism for our the government was its failure to act (by Republican Presidents). It was a Democratic President with liberal ideas who pulled the country out.

The grass growing analogy is baffling...although wouldn't the EPA be the government agency that would force the protection of the sacred grass?

"Some republicans need to read more."

That interferes with what they are programmed to believe.

"After 3 years of Obama - we have been become the debt-ridden deadbeat."

Typical lie and here is proof that is easily obtainable just with google

Here in a nutshell is a list of our last Presidents and the percentages of borrowing they did while in office.

Truman NONE
Eisenhower 3%
Kennedy Johnson 6%
Nixon Ford 14%
Carter 13%
Reagan 25%
Bush I 28%
Clinton 6%
Bush II thru 2002 23%
Bush II FROM 2003 to end of term 32%

So who are the big spenders? Why its Republicans who offer meager tax cuts to the not so rich and famous while lavishing tax cuts on the wealthy which make them have to borrow in order to keep the government running. This is a shill game and we better wake up to it before it is too late.

Bush I BushII and Reagan are responsible for 70% of the Debt we owe now.
Thank God they were fiscal conservatives

Yo bob-ble head! You are in denial if you think Obama is gutless. Bush and Darth Cheney was manning this country for 8 years and did not kill Bin Ladin or end wars. Just continue to borrow from China and whoever else in Asia!

When it came down to foreign policy Obama made good on his promise and did pretty damn well. The only reason he couldn't do better in our economy here at home is because of the party of NO who filibustered any attempt to get us out of this gutter sooner. REMEMBER, the Repugs goal is to make Obama a one term president - regardless if they let this country sink like the Titanic. If this biggest HYPOCRITE Romney is elected, this country will be back to serfdom!

What all Americans should do is get all their Repug state representatives out of office. They only care about their 1% corp donors and saving their azzes.

..........................................."Obama/2012 Guaranteed"

The only thing these comments serve is that there is a majority that refuses to see and read facts they still believe in Santa Claus and God!

Politicians are all the same they all want power they spend more money on ads than the potus will ever make so it is the absolute power of the highest office in the free world.......but we do have to elect somebody so since Obama was an effete president who should have never been voted in in the first place we have to close our eyes and pick someone......I do like Romney and Gringrich, two sharp intelligent men, why not give one a chance after Obama anyone can do a better job.

The only thing more pathetic than LeftyLibDems chanting BO and placing all their chips on his square, is the VP! I've personally heard the man speak on several occasions and can testify he is the most vapid, superficial, unintelligible politician on the spectrum. The man actually makes BO look good by contrast, which is a huge accomplishment.

I guess Bob doesn't have a reply. Shocker.

Just my two cents here Bob. You are one of the sheep that has gotten this country in the bad position it found itself after the Bush/Cheney raping of America. Wake Up sheepman.

Poor Bob...

Another rightie who fails to acknowledge that our REAL path of deficit spending that has lead to our debt started with the policies of Ronald Reagan, and believes that American history started on 1/21/08.

When you think about it, Bob, Obama has done nothing more than extend the failed policies of Reagan and Bush, which is deficit spending to stimulate the economy, not paying down the debt, and not cutting spending. and I'm sure that we'll hear something from you on that. And while you're at it, please explain how those ten years of tax cuts have produced how many jobs?

As far as the military cuts are concerned, they are long overdue. time to cut the waste, and the profiteers. (of which maybe you are one) BTW, how much stock do you hold with defense contractors?

Go away, Bob... Go away, and figure out which one of the current crop of GOP losers you plan on supporting in the effort to beat Obama.

My bet is you'll still be on the threads four more years whining and crying about our country being decimated by a Muslim, and how the Republicans would make it soooo much better if they had the chance. And being that the current favorability rating of Republicans in Congress (the House in particular) stands at about 20%, I'd say they've blown that chance, wouldn't you?

...And one more thing Bob...

How can Mitt blame Obama for a poor economy, yet not credit him for a recovery?

Just wondering... being that he seems to say what the present crowd wants to hear at the time.

We got in this shape from the "starving the beast" policies of the Republicans party. Want to read about it.

It's hear, the amazing story of the debt. Note: republicans are still following these policies, so are the candidates running for President.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

It's not a recovery if Obama made a problem worse. Before the 1 Trillion dollar waste of your tax money, the unemployment was 7.6% ish. It went over 9% and now 2 1/2 years later it's now at 8.6% and you call that a recovery? I don't care who's in office and I don't care WHO fixes the economy, it has to be fixed and Obama is not the person to do this. If you haven't seen what's happened in the last almost 3 years, you been living in the dark. You can honestly say that the country is better off now than 4 years ago?

Eric,

zfact is a progressive web site, nice try though

"Obama is in the process of neutering the military and America"

The American military budget is almost 50% of what's spent in the entire world, and we're "Neutering the military"? That's Ridiculous!

What, were you bullied as a child or something!

We are still the richest and most prosperous. If you think China is better, go visit and check out their standard of living. Perhaps you should go to Syria where citizens are treated so much better by their leaders...or maybe North Korea.

Although we are in a recession, Americans will still probably cough up the money to fill stadiums for the upcoming football playoffs and the Superbowl. Check how much money deadbeat Americans spent on Christmas gifts. Are things really that bad?

"You can honestly say that the country is better off now than 4 years ago?" Of couse it is 4 years ago we were on the brink of a depression and those of you on the right who parrot that Bs about spending your way out of a recession should look at Japan wh has done the same thing or almost ever contry in Europe. Trouble with righties like yoursel is you do not or will not understand the problem so there can never be a solution coming for your side. For instance when Bush was in deficit spending was a great ide.....Now it is terrible if we are to believe you people.

We have had 30 years of stagnat wages and price increse after price increase. The government buys goods like we do and the Republicans say cut taxes? They did look what happened.

"zfact is a progressive web site, nice try though" Everything that does not fit your idea of fact is progressive. Better to be progressive than regressive

The big illusion is that 1% of the US can hold on to more and more wealth.

Rick Santorum called for immedi­ate cuts to Social Security benefits Friday.

“We can’t wait 10 years,” even though “everybody wants to,” Santorum says.

That fits real well into the, "Our military is being neutered" message.

My take on that message from the GOP/TP;

Take money/food off the tables of seniors and put that money right into the pockets of the military/industrial complex.

Hope that message works out well for you Republicans.

There is another option, they can keep holding the country back for another four years.

Derf-1791763

Impeachment does not mean to remove from Office , Bill Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

They will bitch and complain all the while the economy will get better and better, like its already done. Americans will get tired of this, and will not vote for republicans.

When they lose big in 2012, the Party of No will not be able to remain so obstructionist.

Eric

nice to see you are using a copyrighted photo for your ID how much you paying Microsoft to use it?

I think Obama played nice guy to the previous administration, to his own detriment.

What still needs to happen is prosecution of the treasonous bast*rds that got us into Iraq, waterboarding, etc., etc.

Begin Flame throwing in 3, 2, 1..............

Their solution is bring back the crew that not only destroyed the economics of this country but most of the world also. If we had any sense and we had put these people in jail where they belonged we would not have this problem today.

@Muglit, they pay me to use it.......

concernedusa5031 - you make a good point. Obama is not entirely to blame for this mess. For that matter, neither is Bush or the others who preceded him. Regardless of whatever governmental controls were or were not in place, the American public - i.e. the individual, ALWAYS has the choice to spend and borrow.

I'm tired of hearing/reading about which government program initiated by so-and-so is to blame for ALL of the mess. Each of us has a responsibility to spend our money wisely. For example, if an individual bought too expensive of a house - beyond what they could afford, then they are also to blame.

If each of us can own up to individual responsibility, then collectively we the citizens, can help get us back on track - regardless of which party gets the Presidency.

Individual spending had nothing to do with the collapse it was credit default swaps. Something 98% of Americans had never heard of before.

I'm no business/economics expert, but if people don't overextend their credit spending, would the credit default swaps force them to lose their homes?

Dont let the GOP and Romney fool you. If Romney gets elected the power will once again return to the rogue behind the scenes CIA elite want to be world leaders. More war, More occupation, More middle eastern boogiemen scare tactics and more money we dont have spent on affairs outside of our own problems.

Romney is a crooked Idiot.

It's taken Romney multiple elections to even try and navigate himself out of a paper bag.

hmmmm johnny unlike the BS law Obama sign just last month which allows the military to detain US citizen forever without trial without regard to the bill of rights. or the laws being passed in Indiana allowing cops to come in to your home without a warrant or P.C. anytime they want. sounds like a police state in the making.

Yea, but think how MUCH better we would be if we invested in more rebuilding of our roads and bridges and hiring more teachers and first responders????

Employment rate hasn't been this good in 6 years they say, right when BUSH had his way. Think how much better we would be if we had left the GOP have their way with more wars and less taxes.

taxes.

"Yea, but think how MUCH better we would be if we invested in more rebuilding of our roads and bridges and hiring more teachers and first responders????"

let see the National debt would have go up even more and the road jobs would all be temp jobs that would have taken months to plan before they even hired one person.

BobbyMac1 agreed! Politicians need to stop blaming others and then "scaring" the public about what they should/should not do. Simply tell us what you (politician) would do and let us judge for ourselves if we think the idea has merit.

Like a broken record the Rnc and their bots have been blastin Obama day and night every since he was elected and some wven before the results were in and he is still close to 50% approval

Yes, you are correct. It is a shame. But, Obama and the Dems did likewise. Most politicians (both sides) as far as I know sink to this level. They are equally to blame.

I am sure it will be with deep domestic cuts at every level.

Sounds like dems, with cuts in military and no reduction in domestic.

So both side are arguing about which pocket is best to steal from?

left or right!

I say neither!

Answer is (and nobody likes it) is increse revenue and target the increse to paying down the debt. Aka tax increase on the rich.

GOOD ONE Hank; but you are completely correct!!!!

Loren; RIGHT; only 15% of our country black so if ALL were on welfare that would leave 30% white on it!!!!

I also found this.. the article is from 2010 but how much could it have shifted. still looking for 2011!

"Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below thepoverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients."

now put that up against total number of white women in the us vs total black...or is real people math too tough for demtards? 12% of the country is black.so 37% on stamps isn't great..but you have some kind of ridiculous way of distorting this as well i am sure. And btw the dems started all the wmd talk in iraq.not reps. Just look at clintons admin.

are we still fighting wars? obama=3+ years =still war? Hmm! The bank Bail out worked so obama gets credit. The bank bail out fails Bush gets Credit? Help me out here i don't speak idiotese.

Those who call others stupid over and over are usually describing themselves.

stupid is America for voting for a man that never had a job never created a job . It was a experiment by voting in a community organizer. Now we need some one that has some real experience

Ditto! Well said!

Dorian, ALL of the RETHUG/GOP candidates are all HYPOCRITES andLIARS and/OR LOONY BINS and IDIOTS!! Thus, the musical chair or flavor of the month, because SOME of the right wing peeps of this country still have a tad bit more brain cells than the rest to be able to see exactly what they got. Herman Cain?! Care about this country??! You gotta be nuts! LOONY Bachman??! Hilarious!! Anyone who sputter about the constitution without a complete understanding of it, you should avoid. Again, all the GOP candidates are all mind-boggling laughable!!

Get your facts and figures straight. The real unemployment rate is 11% nationwide with close to a 19% unemployment rate in african american communities due to Obama. So how does that equate to a better lifestyle for the 19% of unemployed black americans?

Either you live your life by following an ideology of "Entitlement". Or you live your life following an ideology of "Self Reliance". Which one do you practice?

Do you wake up every day and expect the Government to pay your way through life? Or do you get up every day, look at the glass half full (not half empty) and try and make something of yourself? Which is it?

Spoken like a true Socialist comrade!...