Yeah, all those pompous liberals, with their pompous reliance on science and fact rather than religious faith and old wives tales.

What we need is a republican to lead us to the 12th Century.

With regard to "Pompous reliance on science", NASA 1971 warns that "global temperatures will fall by 6 degrees in next decade", 1974 New York Times headline "Climate Change Endangers Worlds Food Output, 1975 Newsweek artical ..."The longer the planners delay, the more difficult they will find it to cope with climate change once the results become grim reality", 1975 The National Academy of Science issued a "Comming Ice Age" warning!

and they want to change whackadoodle to skedaddle.

Perhaps Amy, there is a hidden message for the whackadoodles that post here to skedaddle. Oh, sweet 'ironies' of life.

Hubby had to make me skedaddle for awhile this afternoon. I was going whackadoodle! (Or going to try to whack a few doodles)

Yep, gotta watch the skedaddle-dos.

Be careful what you wish for, Amy. Obama does not have a Presidential record upon which to run. He has not accomplished anything "special" whatsoever, except for the capture of Osama Bin Laden. A moderate Republican like Huntsman could very well give him a run for his money, and may even beat him in November.

This particular period in which we live is strikingly similar to 1992, when we had a seemingly unbeatable President coming off big military victories in Panama, and The Persian Gulf.

But, a recession with zero job growth, and almost double digit unemployment did him in, just as it could Barrack Obama.

Nobody knew who Bill Clinton was in 1992. The Democratic front runner that year was Paul Tsongas. The other candidates (Bob Kerrey, Jerry Brown, and Tom Harkin) were seen as being just as "out there" on most issues of the day, as you and your ObaMANIAC friends see the GOP candidates in this election cycle.

Obama's re-election is not a slam dunk. Not even close to one. So please, show a little humility, and be very, very careful. You may just have to eat your words on November 7th. (That's the day after election day.)

J. Merle Stanley-2759623

Only a Republican plant would claim the Obama administration hasn't accomplished anything "special." How about the big three American Automakers turning a profit for the first time since 2004 because Obama bailed them out, when Republicans said "let them fail?"

How about passing the American Affordable Care Act against the wishes of the same right-wing conspirators who took down Hillary's efforts to reform healthcare?

How about repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, which finally released gay servicemen and women from fear of being kicked out of the military for their sexual orientation.

I've been very proud of President Obama's performance and my role in putting him in office (hey! I caucused!)

Please don't tell me you're one of those people who think he's anti-Israel, because that just isn't true, and besides, have you listened to the Republicans talk about Israel? With friends like these....

Huntsman is the best GOP candidate, but that is faint praise. However Huntsman is not a Mormon Obama. He only seems moderate in this present field. Huntsman would be the GOP'sstrongest candidate and he would elevate the level of discourse, but he has zero chance at the GOP nomination. While Huntsman still believes in evolution, he has recently backed off on believing in global climate change. All of a sudden the science isn't out on climate change! And remember Huntsman raised his hand and indicated he would not agree to any tax increases even with a 10 spending increase for every dollar of new revenue!!

As far as what Obama has done, lets start with passing the Lilly LedbetterAct his first week in office. This restored the original intent of the equal pay act after the 5 conservative Supreme Court justices ignored the clear language of the statute and changed the running of the statute if limitations basically eliminating almost all gender pay discrimination cases (talk about activist judges!!!). He signed legislation allowing funding for stem cell research, which Bush vetoed twice since 2004. He saved the American auto Industry, and took steps to improve the economic disaster he inherited from W. He passed health care reform. The list of President Obama's accomplishments go on. He attempted to negotiate with the GOP, but the GOP leadership made it clear their goal was for Obama to fail, and they have done everything within their power to achieve that goal. Fortunately they haven't fully succeeded. In a little bit it will be time to go caucus for President Obama. Obama-Biden 2012!!!!!!

I'm not so sure I believe in global climate change, either. at least the man-made kind. I think maybe it can be attributed to geological cycles the earth goes through. Have you ever watched the Discovery Channel, there is some interesting stuff there. At one time, Chicago was a much warmer climate than it is now. So can't these things just be a part of the earths shifting and moving? On a political note, I think 2012 is name recognition for Huntsman going into 2016.

Maybe, just maybe, Rick Santorum can get the GOP nomination this year.

If so, then if the concept of having another misogynist, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-immigrant, anti-poor, ultra-conservative in the Whitehouse is not enough to motivate Democrats to vote, then the GOP deserves to win.

Grimey,

I approve of the icon :) The hubby wears the pin on his shirt collar.

Grimey, I like the icon, too. Huntsman should have made some effort in Iowa; there are moderate areas where he would have done very well. By ignoring Iowa, he really lost out on a lot of media coverage of his campaign especially the last few weeks. How he did would not have mattered but having his name and face in local papers, on local TV and radio was free advertisement.

Huntsman is the only one in this group of Republicans that doesn't belong in the GOP clown car.

Huntsman erroneously believed that his position on ethanol would hurt him. The subsidies have now expired any way, so his opposition to ethanol subsidies, a sentiment shared by many in Iowa any way, would not have hurt him. He hasn't performed that well in the debates, but if he had made an effort in Iowa he very well could have beat the one term GOP governor from Mass, at a minimum he would have prevented Romney from coming in first.

Huntsman would have done well in Eastern Iowa, and with the Chamber of Commerce GOP. By skipping Iowa he not only lost the opportunity to be seen (excluded from two debates alone), but skipping a state hurts you in the other states. You can't claim to be a national candidate when you skip a swing state!

When & where was your post, I'd be interested in reading it.

How cool would it be to actually see Republicans faint on TV?

Or pundit heads exploding?

Fainting is the only thing they have left. They've already pulled-out laughter, rage, and tears!!

RedDev, now that would be worth the admission price.

I can still see Karl Rove's expression as he was explaining how McCain would win Ohio and the FOX guy saying it went for Obama.

RedDev, that would be so cool.

It is perplexing, how the Republicans this year act like their primary is a game show, and not a very long job interview to be Commander-in-Chief and President of all the United States. I've noticed they have no qualms dissing various cities, states and groups of people. President Obama never does that.

I have never understood why Iowa gets so much publicity in the first place. It is a small 97% white state. It is definately not representative of a broader America. It doesn't even represent the broader Republican electorate.

What is all of the hype about?

Amy:

That is funny> OBAMA NEVER DOES THAT. He disrespects half of the country everytimes he makes one of his little speeches. If he doesn't, one of his minions does.

Jody,

When do you go caucus?

President Obama never does that.

LMAOOOO Amy B.....I actually had to read that twice to make sure you weren't kidding. Talk about being a political hack. At least when *I* type something you will have no problem identifying which side of the aisle I sit on.

You aint foolin' ANYONE sweetcheeks!

Lean Forward Baby!!! MSNBC needs you to put the foil hat back on!

A bit of a slective memory we have, eh Amy. Here's Barrack Obama in a 2008 campaign speech, talking about small town Americans.

".....And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations. ,....."

LOL, absolutely AMAZING that you overlooked THIS One!

Ha Ha Ha

phine, I'm headed there around 6:10; it's about 5 minutes away. Registration is at 6:30 and the caucus begins at 7. It may be sunny with no snow, but the wind is strong which makes it really cold.

ITM, the same would be said about any state that goes first. The primary process is one state from each region going first. Iowa for the middle, NH for the east, SC for the south and NV for the west. Small states require less money for campaigns, TV and radio ads are cheaper and candidates can get from one place to another within a few hours. If states with larger populations and land mass went first, only well-funded and wealthy candidates would have a chance. I would remind you that Iowa, as white as it is, selected Barack Obama in 2008.

Gee, Barack Obama expressing empathy for right-wing supporters, no matter how mis-guided they are, vs Republicans saying Chicago is controlled by gangsters or Iowa doesn't matter.

J. Merle Stanley,

It was not at a campaign speech it was at a fundraising event.

Amy.....intimating that gun owners, and those who choose to practice religion in small towns are desperate / despondent people isn't showing any "empathy" towards them.

and Dennis, whether it was a fundraiser, or a campaign speech doesn't make any difference as to the meaning of his words.

We get it.

Small town Americans who do not agree with HIS agenda, and HIS philosophy, and who aren't indoctrinated into HIS ideology are desperate people in search of some greater imaginary fulfilment that will never come.

.....you REALLY need to do some fact-checking about a lot of the things B.O. said during the campaign of 2008. He called Hillary "old and out of touch", something that is offensive to woman, and seniors, and he also referred to her as "Annie Oakley" after one of her campaign appearances out west.

Not to mention the very nasty things that his supporters post here on this website about everyone else who doesn't support him.

So please Amy, put the worn-out confirmation dress back in the closet, and get honest. Mostly with yourself.

worn-out confirmation dress?

Sorry, not getting this reference.

That's pretty much because you are either stupid, or otherwise mentally deficient.

There's no way you could support Obama's candidacy for re-election if you weren't.

J. Merle Stanley,

Yes it is the words but we all know that candidates say many things at fundraisers that they would not say on the stump.

You also ignore all the things that your idol, Hillary said about Barack Obama.

You are back here again, just like 3 years ago being all bitter that Hillary lost. She is, by far, much more gracious about the loss and more supportive of our President than you. She has moved on – why can’t you??

IntheMiddle, TX Iowa is actually 91% not 97% white. Iowa is a great place to start. People who complain seem to forget it doesn't have to end in Iowa. If the race is over soon after Iowa that is because other states all went for the guy at the top of the national polls, that is the problem of other states, not Iowa's fault. Iowa was the 1st state in 2008, but the Democratic race wasn't over until all states had their caucus or primary. The GOP race was over early, but that was because the GOP was a winner take all state (until this year) making it impossible for Romney to beat McCain. Ironically when Romney dropped out he had received significantly more support (primary votes and % of the caucus vote) than McCain, but he couldn't catch up with him in the delegate count. If the GOP had proportional delegates in 2008 McCain probably wouldn't have been the nominee.

Iowa is a great place to start because advertising costs are low. A candidate without a lot of money has a chance to compete. If Texas, California, or Florida started, or if there were regional primaries, only the candidates with the biggest war chest would have a chance. The race would be all on the air, and there would not be any retail campaigning. Iowa traditionally takes its 1st in the nation status seriously and research the candidates. Watch a candidate being interviewed by the media, they spin and don't answer the question. Romney joked about how well Ann Romney was on Fox's morning show, because she didn't answer the questions. It is more difficult for a candidate to not answer a voters question, than it is for them in a debate, or in a media interview. When they try doing that at a town hall the others in the audience don't allow the candidate to get away with failing to answer a question. Hillary had a hard time in Iowa when she tried to run an incumbents campaign, where she would give a stump speech and not take questions. Because of the bad press she was getting Hillary reluctantly began taking questions from the audience. Then it came out that at some stops the people she called on were plants, and the questions pre-selected. This really hurt Hillary. Candidates have a harder time faking it during retail campaigning, this is reason enough to start in a small (population) state where advertising costs are low.

yeah, we probably would.

Bob, although I am a moderate, and formerly a strictly-democratic-ticket-voting-democrat; I do agree with you that MSNBC, and the Obama-Lama-Ding-Dongs who post on First Read do indeed demonize anyone who challenges B.O. or his ideology.

My eyes were opened during the election of 2008 when MSNBC (including Chris Mathews, Keith Olberman, and the three jerk-offs who run this website) absolutely ripped Hillary up one side and down the other with bull$#!+ lies, and innuendo; while, completely ignoring the stories that SHOULD have been investigated surrounding B.O. and his cast of felonious, domestic terrorist friends.

Then, when the primaries were finished, they did the same thing to McCain & Palin.

I'm predicting that the battle cry this year will be "you're a racist" if you don't choose to support B.O.

It short-circuits any intelligent discussion about what the man has, or has not done, and puts everyone else on the defensive.

Funny thing, though; Obama could very well fall victim to the same thing that brought Bush-41's Presidency to an end. And that is, the economy.

But, don't try and discuss that intelligently with any of his Romper-Room supporters. They only know how to make references to blow-up dolls, and ask you if you're taking medication.

Who said liberals liked Huntsman? As a liberal, I will say that in my view, he is the best candidate in the GOP group but that just means I think he's smarter than the others and has a lot less baggage. Commenting that he's the best in the pack does not constitute supporting his conservative politics least of all vote for him.

J Merle,

If you were really a pro-Hillary, moderate Democrat, you'd applaud the work she has done as Secretary of State, and applaud President Obama for putting her in that job, at which, it must be acknowledged, she has been superlative.

PS I'm pretty sure you're a Republican plant.

Amy, the beautiful part about America is that you can be just as sure, just as stupid, and just as wrong about anything that you want to be about any subject you choose.

LOL

Hillary has indeed done a wonderful job as Secretary of State. Her appointment to that post is one of only two things B.O. has done right since he took office.

But, you are completely wrong about me, and EVERY Democrat or Republican who's been on this board since 2006 KNOWS IT!

See, that's the problem with you ObaMANIACS; you think that everyone MUST get in lockstep with YOUR ideology, even when the past three years has conclusively shown us that IT DOESN'T WORK!

The man has done NOTHING to make life any better in this country since he took office. The economy is STILL in horrible shape, unemployment is RISING again, he kept troops in Iraq right up until the point when the law said they HAD to leave, he didn't repeal the stupid Patriot Act, he gave us MANDATED COVERAGE in his healthcare bill.....which is exactly what his supporters CRITICIZED in Hillary's plan, and to boot he threw out the public option which was the whole purpose of healthcare reform!

What's more he pushed federal grants to private industries (banks, GM, etc) that he criticized as a candidate!

The fact IS that Candidate Obama, spoke and acted very differently from President Obama, who, as it turns out, didn't bring any "change" to the White House and gave us the same damn thing that he railed against in his overly-long-winded campaign stump speeches!

So, once again I call upon YOU to get honest, and once again I say.....MOSTLY WITH YOURSELF.

Hillary has sucked at her jobs, especially SoS. The world laughs at her.

I don't think it is all liberals who are saying they like Huntsman as the best GOP candidate. I think it could be alot of republicans who voted for Obama who would just like to get a reasonable GOP candidate out there to vote for. Just speaking as one myself.

@RedDevPS Both sides sling mud that degenerates into grade school name calling. Unfortunately that seems to be more of the norm rather than adult discourse. Both sides should hold up that mirror dude. Just saying.

ksw - no where in my post did I say both sides aren't guilty of mudslinging. I was simply enlightening the unenlightened Bob that his demonization of liberals was one-sided.

I've never heard the name calling towards other presidents that I have heard for Obama. Maybe I've missed something, but what did anyone ever call President Bush?

Look at the youth vote Paul is getting. If this holds up, he could be the republican candidate. Kind of the anti-establishment playing here.