Sen. Blutarsky??? Is that you??

Good luck with that..like I said before Cirque des fous...

Rick

"This is day 1".....lmao

Didn't you teapublicans declare the day after Obama won in Nov 2008 "Day One"!

To Bob """

Funny ..I thought Obama traveled to Normandy to commemorate the 65 anniversary of D-day and gave a speech back in 09...... am I wrong

Amunaka

Obama did give a speech in Normandy 2009 - following a long Presidential tradition of giving a speech every 5 years of the anniversary....

Why yes, yes he did. He actually went to Normandy. See here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/06/watch-live-obama-commemor_n_212140.html

bobs post comes from a right wing wack jobs blog. I suspect it's the reason bob didn't provide a link.

And yes, there were "statements" issued bob. You can find them right on the White house website. I guess you prefer to look like a dolt.

To b dune

Shellie

Thank you ...I still can't post back up links out here yet ...still a newbie

yes in a book written by ron paul supporters or when the union is ripped apart by politics.

by the way do you know the number one job of the department of energy??? Department of interior is so understaffed vististor to the "Mall" have to pick up trash after a rally and clean off debries away from public monumnets and repair trails through ntaional parks and you want them to be responible for nuclear waste.....

so are you saying all ron paul know is theories since he nothing but theory and is wrong all the time.....

Wolften - what does the Dept of No Energy do? Nothing. Ron Paul? What does he have to do with this? He is not an economist.

The Dept. of No Education is no more than Dem PAC contributing cash to teacher's unions. That's a fact. They go through the motions on all else and do nothing and have done nothing in the way of one implemented policy that has led to a long term solution in our Public Schools.

rebal thank you very much, you use Ron Pauls arguments and then claim to know nothing, You use lines right out of his newsletters and say he has nothing to do with this and then you claim to have no idea what a department in charge of all the nuclear waste does nothing, well I guess guarding all that waste and faclities is nothing to some people

The United States Department of Energy (DOE) is a Cabinet-level department of the United States government concerned with the United States' policies regarding energy and safety in handling nuclear material.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Energy

Major Responsibilities:

• Oversees the Department of Energy’s energy and environment programs
• Responsible for cleanup of nuclear weapons complex and management of nuclear waste
• Heads research and development on energy efficient technologies and renewable sources of energy

http://www.excellenceintransition.org/prune/prunedetail.cfm?ItemNumber=10384

Enough said and enough proven will not even go into the reason the department of education was created other than do some research before making claims that actual are untrue rebal after all, what comes out of ron pauls newsletters and from glen becks mouth is not always the truth

Wolften - no one cares about the day to day - they care what a gallon of gas costs them. In that regard DOE does NOTHING.

You are clueless and missing my points or more likely just ignoring them because you cannot refute them logically.

And my thoughts are my own Wolften. Not Ron Paul's though he may agree with me.

rebel

Thanks for the laugh. Now lets serious since the department of interior are what governs when and where the oil people can drill (sell oil leases) DOE is incharge of other things much more important especially since our own nuclear waste is major security threat as per every president candiate and all of our secuirty departments. Glad you know better than them(Ron paul says the compinies will take care of the waste because of captilism but....)

You points are incorrect and you have no idea how what any of the departments actual do, ort of like Perry.

And rebel Ron paul has had this view for 30 plus yearsso I would say it has been in every paper in over 20 books so far and they all point to Ron Paul as the orginator, so please tell me you live in a shack in the middle of nowhere otherwise your views are based off others info like again you made clear

You care nothing for this security of this nation, nothing for it kids and nothing for the work people do in the goverments name

Please tell me you will no longer visit a goverment park, use electricty(since it is govern by the DOE), drive on federal or state highways, drink the water, or anything else the goverment regulates or pays for. And the reason for the regulations(safety and deaths cause by being unregulated read the jungle please)

Wolften - you are another head in the sand liberal. Obamacare is cutting $500B from medicare and his policies in the Bill will also have many Drs. turning away Medicare patients because of reduced payments.

This "assault" on Obama is piss ant compared to the things that were said of Bush by the man in the street, "news" outlets like MSLSD TV and DC partisan Dem politicians.

To rebel"""

Why is he cutting back 500B...he's going after medicare fraud ... has been pretty successful with the co-ordinated busts these pass few years ....but they were all true about bush ...what was said about him that wasn't...the assault on Obama is lies and parroting in the right wing blogesphere echo chamber that feed off and on each others nonsense..

@Reb,

And that $500B in Medicare cuts is not from the Medicare program but instead from the payouts to doctors. These are the same doctors who are over billing for services and raising the prices being charged to the program recipients. The problem is not with the Medicare program but with the amount of PROFIT doctors, actually not the doctors themselves but their FINANCIAL MANAGERS, want to make off of the Medicare program.

But, people like yourself are probably just fine with the Paul Ryan proposal to turn the Medicare program into a Voucher system, that will not keep up with the cost of inflation, and you see no hypocrisy in your rant against the Obama administration passing the $500B reduction in Medicare co-payments to doctors.

Just reinforces the narrative on the left that republicans and their supporters aren't really opposed to the programs of the Obama administration as much as they are opposed to the idea of Obama being President of these United States of America.

Amu..... - he is going after Medicare fraud? DC has been saying that for years with very little to show for it. Why? Because you have a bunch of incompetant professional student/bureaucrats not smart enough to get a job in the private sector trying to play business people.

No president deserves the kind of vile, curse-filled, repugnant hate speech that Bush received - by the many and not the few, which is not the case with Obama - the few whack jobs "attacked" by asking him to produce of birth cert. and/or questioned his religion. Not the many "attacked" Obama. And that is tame compared to what Bush got.

Didn't barry want returning vets to kick in for their treatment and rehab, as I remember, not too long ago?

Rebal with teaparty members like Rick scott and bachman, I would like to hear your stnce on Medicare fraud the president has made a priotry to go after

After all rick scotts former company bilked the govermnet out of billions.

Bachman charges the goverment for people converting from gay to stright through religious worship

Last time I check the republicans and the tea party members put fraud and over charges close to 900 billion

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/dec/12/mitt-romney/romney-says-only-obama-has-cut-medicare/

Rebal please get a cuase with some facts or declare yourself a tea party member and get it over with

And what about perry talk about seceeding from the union??

Sayitaint.... - cutting funding $500B to Medicare cannot be parsed though you have tried mightily. I doubt any one man in power still knows all that is in that 2700 page POS that was passed when definitely no one knew what was in it. As Nancy Pelosi said "we'll just have to pass this then find out what's in it". What a dolt.

That is quite a recipe for success in meaningful health care reform is it not?

No Reality, but I see you read John Semmens (a conservative writer) satire piece in March 2009 and swallowed it as truth hook line and sinker. Or maybe you just swallowed whole the chain emails you got. Nice job!

To rebel .."""

Obama's getting results There's been high profile busts in the past few years ...with little fanfare from the press but it's out there ...

Now hate speech bush received from who..the press ..? the press gave bush a pass compared to how they had gone after Clinton a few years before ...what news org was calling bush anything that compares to what for example fox has called Obama on a daily basis ....

Wolften - politicians on both sides of tha aisle have been talking about going after Medicare fraud for decades. It has nothing to do with my being a Republican or you a latter-day Copperhead Dem and/or radical. It is meaningless demagougery at this point that gets sucked up by dum-dums that know nothing about the machine that is DC.

Fact: we do not have the IT infrastructure in place to properly monitor and stop fraud before it gets started. Our gov. is inefficient. Our gov. bureacrats are not the best and brightest - if they were private business would hire them away.

To rebel """

Didn't know what was in it.. like the Patriot Act..?

How'd they come up with all these amendments to something they hadn't read

What do the GOP amendments to this Senate health care bill actually say?

Thursday, July 16, 2009

That said, some context:

Of the 788 amendments filed, 67 came from Democrats and 721 from Republicans. (That disparity drew jeers that Republicans were trying to slow things down. Another explanation may be that they offered so many so they could later claim—as they are now, in fact, claiming—that most of their suggestions went unheeded.) Only 197 amendments were passed in the end—36 from Democrats and 161 from Republicans. And of those 161 GOP amendments, Senate Republicans classify 29 as substantive and 132 as technical.

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rebal the only time it will happen is when we stop them from lobbying to protect their fraud

We had the people and programs to mange it before they were butcher in the early 2000 asbudget cuts then

Please actual do some research because the people that busted Rick Scott are still around making waves but get shut down by the politics in washington all the time(mainly from republican freshman house members)

John H. - So, illegal immigrants belong in this country according to you. Interesting. What part of illegal do you not understand? What rights should they have John? The right to break the law? That is what your are proposing.

The employers that hire them should be fined huge and the illegals need to go back where they came from post haste.

The rest of your post mentions idiots that comprise probably 5% of the Republican Party, i.e., the questioning of Obama's religion, etc.

With regard to Cantor and his stand on corp. taxation, why do you think almost $3T is offshore in places like Ireland where corp. taxes are 10%? Because they can and they have shareholders to answer to with regard to profits.

Do they have no responsibility to the retail investor who has 100 shares? You prefer to think of only the "fat cats" behind the desk but how about looking at it realistically and understand that most Fortune 1000 companies have about 1/3 of their outstanding shares in the hands of the little guy or gal.

The answer to economic growth is lowering corp tax rates, which in the U.S. are currently the second highest of all the industrialized economies of the world, and lower them to a flat 10%. Not only will that $3T in at-risk capital come back to the U.S. for expansion, you will also see many foreign national conglomerates building factories here that employ people.

Save the demogougery. The class warfare argument is rubbish to the nth. As Lincoln once said, "All men are created equal. But that does not mean all are guaranteed the same station in life. But the possibility does exist, with hard work, industry and thrift, the employee may one day become an employer, too."

Rebal lets see ERON, WorldCOM ring a bell? CEO more worried about a paycheck then the investors, similar to the banks ceos

and as far as illegal immergrants go unless you can trace your self back to either saint augustine or jamestown you are here illegal after breaking the law(treaties)

I will give you a better saying, failure is means to move upwards when you fail less than those around you

sounds like the current crop of CEOs and tea party elected officals

Hey Rebel, listening to you talk I would say you are in the 7 figure category by your staunch defense of the continuation of unfettered capitalism.

Unfettered capitalism is no better than any other system which seeks to enrich a disproportionate sector of society at the benefit of the greater collective. No, that is not socialism, which is defined as the government confiscating all of the profit and redistributing it equally among the masses.

You defend the actions of those corporations who have, 1) closed operations here in America in set up shop in another country in order to avoid paying for the very services, freedoms and opportunities that America and its citizens have collectively contributed to, 2) lobbied, cajoled, bribed, and bought Congressional influence, both Democrat and Republican, in order to have Tax Laws written that provide them with specific deductions which in turn allow them to pay an EFFECTIVE TAX RATE that is lower than what the average American worker pays, 3) hidden their profits in non-American financial institutions in order to escape paying their patriotic share of taxes.

You and people who agree with your philosophy always ignore the fact that in the last 30 years the average American worker, typically called Middle Class, has seen their wages flat-line or drop while corporate profits and compensation has seen a meteoric rise. You tout corporate taxation as the sand in our economic engine, yet the facts clearly show that corporations are doing just fine even as the average American is taking a beating. You claim that lowering corporate taxation to 10% would be the panacea to attracting international corporations to America when in fact many corporations have came and continue to come to our shores and receive enormous tax breaks from the local governments which vie for the jobs they have to offer. These local governments provide equivalent tax reduction measures like Renaissance Zones, Tax Free Investment Zones, Tax Credits, etc. which has lowered their cities revenue streams and forced them to cut employees, services and benefits.

There was once a time, in this country called America, when businesses took pride in being patriotic towards this great country of ours. During that time those businesses realized that the pursuit of ever increasing profits was detrimental to their long term survival if said higher profits were made at the expense of depriving the average worker of the means to purchase the very goods and services they worked everyday to provide in exchange for a paycheck.

No Rebel the class warfare argument is not demagoguery, its the reality of 2012. And even though Lincoln said "All men are created equal." those words are only relevant when that equality applies to all persons regardless of gender, skin color, economic group, or any of the other multitude of differences that makes us INDIVIDUALS.

All men are created equal ONLY with regards to how we are birthed into this world, but we by no means enter into this world on equal footing. The child born into poverty is by no means equal to the child born with a Silver Spoon in their mouth. You may disagree, that is your Constitutionally protected right, but the realities of the times we are currently in don't support your opinion.

Put, Obama did what the government can and should do.

Put another way, what would "you" have done differently? Not spend the stimulus and put another 2m people into unemployment and possible home foreclosure? Allow the commerical credit industry to collapse? Let two of the largest US manufacturers to go into bankruptcy, putting another 500k people onto the unemployment lines?

Yes Mark, that is what the "PutAmericaFirst" types would have done. The consummate businessman Williard "Mitt" Romney said it plainly, he would have let the automakers go bankrupt; have the banks foreclose on peoples homes because, as Romney says, "then the people with money can come in and buy up these homes at low prices and turn them into income properties".

The "PutAmericaFirst" types always love to make simplistic comparisons to complex situations and it utterly amazes me how they always, and I mean always discount the HUMAN BEING portion of the analysis meaning they justify their explanations using humanistic terms but fail to consider the actually HUMAN COST of their actions.

Case in point, the recent Payroll Tax legislation put forth by the House Republicans called for the elimination of 200,000 Federal Employees. Now taken at face value you could see how reducing 200,000 salaries at an average of let's say $50,000/salary would equate to a lot of money in savings. But what about the 200,000 people who would no longer have EMPLOYMENT at a time when the reported unemployment rate is just shy of 9% and the actual unemployment rate is probably close to 17%. Now say that the average family size of the 200,000 employees is 4 people, including the eliminated worker. The real impact is not 200,000 people but 800,000 people.

You want to solve the problems with this economy? Get rid of those in government who think that government doesn't work. After all, if you don't believe in the ability of the company you work at then why would you put your best effort forward?

Last, as to those individuals who like to use the line "We are bankrupting our childrens future with these ever increasing deficits" let me ask you this, how is putting the bread winner of the family out of job going to provide the child of the bread winner a better opportunity? Again, the sound byte is a good one, it's just that pesky little thing called REALITY that really puts a damper on an otherwise SIMPLE SOLUTION TO A COMPLEX PROBLEM.

Seems that's all the Republicans have left to offer, SIMPLE SOLUTIONS that are not based in REALITY.