Romney has no chance against Obama.

I will bet you $10000 he does

Ron Paul is the only one who can make a positive difference.

Feel free to lead the parade out out the country.

Please read your history books and take a class on political science and learn what socialism is

ROMNEY'S "Business experience" consisted of buying companies, laying off workers, stripping pension funds, and taking the companies public again - 80% of which shortly went bankrupt.GOOGLE this and watch the video:
"THE STORY OF TWO MEN TRAPPED IN ONE BODY"

Ron Paul 2012!!!!

I'm sorry, but if I have to choose between a presidential candidate who believes in magic underware, versus who truly honors and believes in the tenets of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, I think I',m going to go with.....?

Amram, your saint earmarked more than most GOP congress members and continued to when the TEA Party Caucus said they wouldn't. Look into his earmarks like the 2 million for bike racks and decorative street lamps in his district.

@Carl Hubert

Now then. While I am considerably less than happy with our present government, putting any of the Fascists currently posing as Republicans into power will only make things worse. Now to be clear I do not include Ron Paul among this number although I do disagree with many of his proposed policies. If nothing else he appears to be an honest man.

For purposes of clarification, Fascism is a system of government under which corporations and the wealthy call the shots. The common person is not represented. Sound familiar?

Heidi

Socialism in your mind is a good thing, because everyone will benefit. Trouble is that Socialism is a tool used by communists, totalitarians, and Dictators to accumulate power and wealth. It is also a destroyer of incentive.

You don't need to own all industry, you only need to control it as shown by Hitler. Hitler only took over major parts of each industry, and used fear to dominate the rest.

Realistically, Obama gaining control of GM when he offered bailout cash for the majority stake in GM. and Chrysler. Is a socialist-like move, but those things cannot be permanent in our society and wisely was set to be returned.

China is a socialist society, but they have given large portions (not the majority) of industries into private hands, with the veiled threat to take them back if they don't produce. This is because socialism in it's pure form destroyes the incentive to advance.

Unknown to you, our government is trying to practice control without real ownership. If the "public" option had been adopted in the HCL, that would have lead to a "socialist" state over the health care system. I think the HCL is structured in such a way that in time the installed oversight will cause a collapse in the medical industry that the government will have to save it.

This is precisely what President Hugo Chavez has been accomplishing in Venezuela. Regulate to force collapse, then take over either the entire industry or at least a controlling interest and use fear to keep the remaining in line.

There is a saving in business, "If you have a good idea you want to kill, give it to a committee." The concept works everytime it is tried.

I would also say, that if you have a strong country you want to destroy, entice it to practice socialism.

Stop the madness..all know damm well none of them have a chance..for gods sakes..they are lucky to win a few votes in their own party!

As someone who always considered himself a Republican and slightly right of center. I just have to say that many of the Democratic "values" dont excite me all that much... but after having to put up with Carl Rove, Dick Cheny, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Sara Palin, Newt Gingrich, Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachman, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, Grover Norquist et al. and all the close minded flat out lying I have heard from them just to further their own agendas ... that I will NEVER be able to vote Republican again... so all this Republican debate stuff is just comical to me .. I cant imagine anyone but Obama winning anyhow

ROMNEY'S "Business experience" consisted of buying companies, laying off workers, stripping pension funds, and taking the companies public again - 80% of which shortly went bankrupt.

GOOGLE this and watch the video:
"THE STORY OF TWO MEN TRAPPED IN ONE BODY
"

I hate to burst your bubbles but more and more people are leaving the US every year since good ole George got re elected. And why not? Now a President can get the military to indefinitely detain people when they organize or protest when the final curtain comes down and we all become debt slaves for life? Yeah the whole world economy is going to collapse, but some nations will weather the storm a bit better than the US. Do you really want to be in a great depression in a nation of spoiled kids, who cannot live within their means and own a ton of guns!?

NewtISaPIG

• RON PAUL needs to:

1. address the racism issues in the Newsletters better
2. explain how ignoring Iran until they can send a nuke to Israel or our way is gonna work
3. a better explanation why 9/11 was our fault
4. how ignoring Al Qaeda or the Taliban is going to protect American citizens in any way from violent mass terrorist attacks???
5. how letting the country fall apart when there is NO regulation or agencies making sure cut-throat corporations aren't screwing the 99% is gonna work out!!

Really? How many times have you copy and pasted this now? Don't you get tired of the same answer over and over again? If I promise to answer you (again) you have to promise to stop with the copy and paste fair enough?

1. "racism issue" has been addressed more than once for the last TEN years, I will point you once again in the right direction.... on the front page of the newsletter it read maintained by independent grassroots supporters of Ron Paul. Neither this website nor the articles, posts, videos or photos appearing on it are paid for, approved, endorsed or reviewed by Ron Paul. Same as in RonPaul.com

2. Iran isn't capable of sending a nuke to either Israel or "our way" number one, number two they don't even HAVE a nuke, you read too much media and don't do enough fact checking on your own sorry about that, warmonger much? BUT let's play into your fantasy and say they managed to acquire one (lol @ one nuke) either a) Israel who has more than one nuke bombs them back into yesterday or well there is no b because if Dr. Paul is President we won't have to do anything because israel is a sovereign nation and has already said they don't need our help.

3. 9/11 because we manufacture fear (just like #2 above with Iran) "Though it is hard for many to believe, honest studies show that the real motivation behind the September 11 attacks and the vast majority of other instances of suicide terrorism is not that our enemies are bothered by our way of life. Neither is it our religion, or our wealth. Rather, it is primarily occupation. If you were to imagine for a moment how you would feel if another country forcibly occupied the United States, had military bases and armed soldiers present in our hometowns, you might begin to understand why foreign occupation upsets people so much."

ronpaul.com/2011-09-11/ron-paul-on-911-ask-the-right-questions-and-face-the-truth/

4. The "war on terrorism" is about as useful as the war on drugs, you can't have a war against an ideal, terrorism isn't a "person or place" it's too vague, as Dr. Paul said "

According to Paul, in March 2007:

We have accepted this notion that you can make this vague declaration. It’s not a real declaration. You don’t know who the enemy is. For people who like the state to grow during wartime, it’s easy just to declare a war. Whether it’s a war on drugs, a war on illiteracy, or a war on whatever, people say “well, it’s a war; we have to be willing to sacrifice our liberties and let the government take care of us.” It’s a contest between those who want to or enjoy being dependent on the government – or are frightened into it both physically and economically – versus those who believe and understand how a free society is safer and wealthier.

Dr. Paul voted against going to Iraq was he wrong? We've become a nation of not only war mongers but fear mongers too it makes me sad.
5. It's not NO regulation, it's state regulation (state meaning we the people) think about it how many redundant federal agencies do we have that the states already have?

The U.S. government has 15 different agencies overseeing food-safety laws, more than 20 separate programs to help the homeless and 80 programs for economic development.

and that's only three!
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703749504576172942399165436.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
so I hope I've answered your questions to the best of my ability, but I'd also like to add how would any other candidate address these issues? How would our current President answer them?

rick, good luck in trying to get suspended on a FR blog. Won't likely happen. When the likes of fiesty and company can spew out insults, etc and not be rebuked you are not likely to either. Non FR blogs will suspend for CofH violations.

ROn Paul supported Bush 90% of the time and only fought agaist issues to get his name in the paper. Also his foreign policies are shameful. His constitutional rants are reminicent of past southern conservatives and you know that mens trouble. As a democrat I would welcome this nut as your candidate. Watching him come apart at the seams would be pleasent.

Don't threaten to leave. Just go.

I saw one reference to socialism in there, but that kind of stupidity only makes my eyes glaze over anymore.

I used to have some respect for Ron Paul, but that's gone after seeing a picture of him yesterday posing with Don Black, former Nazi member, and current KKK member. You can see it by googling Don Black. 5th row down, 1st picture.

Gooooo Ron Paul!!!

I saw one reference to socialism in there, but that kind of stupidity only makes my eyes glaze over anymore.

I used to have some respect for Ron Paul, but that's gone after seeing a picture of him yesterday posing with Don Black, former Nazi member, and current KKK member. You can see it by googling Don Black. 5th row down, 1st picture.

/glaze

ROn Paul supported Bush 90% of the time and only fought agaist issues to get his name in the paper. Also his foreign policies are shameful. His constitutional rants are reminicent of past southern conservatives and you know that mens trouble. As a democrat I would welcome this nut as your candidate. Watching him come apart at the seams would be pleasent.

Agrees with Bush 90% of the time eh? hehe. Do you even know where you are right now? What were you drinking last night?

If you want an insight and great example of the liberal group think lunacy and how it works Google "80% of which shortly went bankrupt".

I did after I read read the post by Aram Garabed to see if I could get some info as to the validity of this claim. What I found was this lie making the rounds on the comment sections of many different sites. Apparently there are no facts to support this lie except to cite a comment left by a reader of the Star Tribune of Minnesota.

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/otherviews/136223013.html

That only scratches the surface of the disconnect between reality and the liberal mind. Consider if the claim is true. So what? Bankruptcy is a tool used by businesses and individuals to survive. After the recession lots of businesses were forced to use this tool, Romney had nothing to do with them.

Ah, Doug. So good of you to try to educate the mindless Obama drones. It won't work- if their idol told them the moon was made of green cheese, they'd ridicule anyone who offered proof to the contrary.

You're on the board often enough to see what passes for "thought" among them.

Happy New Year to you- we work together to get rid of the most corrupt president this nation has ever had the misfortune to suffer.

Obama shelved in 2012.

The GOP frontrunners, Moe, Curly, and Larry.

Doug and No Joe are tapping feet in the men's room now. How very Larry Craig of them

anybodybutodummer

Do you believe in Freedom? Do you believe in Liberty? Do you believe in the constitution? If you answered yes to these three questions the the only candidate is Ron Paul. If you did not answer no to those questions then you need to move to China. Ron Paul 2012

You were being too clever by half. I suggest you just try basic stuff. "If you answered yes, vote Paul? If you did not answer no (if you answered yes) Then you need to move to China?

Bwahaahaaahaaaaa!

Is it just me...or do you think Ron Paul has paid staffers who go to Board Sites like this and post adulation for this person?

Anyone who could allow such racism to stand under his name (and I don't buy the he never saw it crap) is pure filth.

And I have seen him rant with his bigotry coming out of his own mouth.

He has not a chance in hell of getting the nomination, he is a prerrenial minor also ran.

Yes, it's just you...

Best thing that could happen to Romney is to lose Iowa to Ron Paul. Maybe then he'll take a stand on something people can get behind - like defeating Ron Paul instead of Obama.

Huntsman is the only sane GOP choice. When will the GOP sober up to see this and quit looking for 'new' saviors - i.e. Santorum. Huntsman must throw down the gauntlet and challenge Romney on every position Mitt has taken, and changed.

Otherwise, in the end, Only a Romney/Huntsman ticket will come close to challenging the POTUS. Unless, all the voter suppression laws are repealed before the national election, and then maybe, if all the 'crazies' are allowed to vote - Ron Paul may get the nod.

If by "presstututes" you mean FOX News then, yes, it's clear that FOX News hates Ron Paul!

And if Ron Paul is the Rupublican Pres Canididate he will lose. Pres Obama will beat him 50% to 37%

The only way the democrats could beat Ron Paul is if the actually produced a decent candidate to run against him. Unfortunately they seem to be backing the incompetent person currently in office, weakening their position substantially.

Heidi, sorry but you're wrong. The fact is Ron Paul has a 30 year record of upholding individual freedom, rights, liberty, based on the Constitution. He opposes the corrupt over-powered Federal government with things like the privacy invasion of the TSA, the evil Patriot Act, the 4th amendment killing NDAA bill, the internet censorship bill SOPA, the racist and corrupt War on Drugs, and the unjust wars in the middle east.

Ron Paul is the only one fighting against those issues. Ron Paul is the ONLY vote that can beat Obama, pulling votes from dissatisfied Dems, the growing Independent population, and a growing portion of the Republicans. A vote for Paul is the ONLY vote for peace, prosperity and liberty.

Ron Paul has a 30year history with the John Birch Society. Nuff said.

Barry would make mincemeat of Ron Paul in a debate. And, especially when considering the clown show the Repubs have been gracing us with, I'd say he is more & more likely to get his second term.

Obama 2012 - learn to live with it.

you are dead wrong. Ron Paul would win hands down because Ron Paul speaks truth and Obama speaks....well, whatever everyone wants him to say at the moment.

Miles - I think you meant "Presstitutes". If so how true of Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC . . . . .

Oregonchic

Paul would destroy Obama on cutting spending. Obama would punish Paul on foreign policy. Also truth doesn't matter as much as how look on TV. Kennedy beat Nixon badly, not because his content was better, but his presentation.

Hey Ron is not that important yet. Remember they shot Bobby when he promised to end the Vietnam War. In exchange we got Nixon.

@tbart: what you are saying is Obama would just do a lot more lying in debates like he did before.

Wow, Odummer? You sound really intelligent.

Odummer - you better go out and get a gum wrapper then, because what you got running right now won't win.

Hot Dog! People leaving in droves because of Romney or Obama getting elected? Win Win! No more work for me. No house payments, never have to worry about utility payments, free tv and cell phone use, free medical care, unlimited unemployment compensation. God, this is a great country. Hey! All of you foreigners who really want a dream life, now is your chance. Hurry on in or take your time. The sourthern border awaits and you will be welcomed with open arms. We need your support! Come on November!

Ron Paul has a strong appeal for his base, but his base is too small to make much difference in the long run (beyond Iowa). Also, his comments on foreign policy (isolationist) are far too simplistic for the complex modern world. He'll have his normal early run and then fade.

Ron Paul = wasted vote

How about let's end the clown circus and get the 2 main guys debating: Romny and Obama

The clowns have wasted enough of eveybody's time, made the GOP look very bad, and threaten to make Iowa irrelevant!! let's get down to business!!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

It's interesting that a slightly watered-down Obama (Romney) and the ultimate in hackNslash small government, Ron Paul, are so close.

I realize that the masses are too bribed with their own tax money to elect Paul, so it will be Obama vs Romney in the general. As far as the direction of the country, Obama and Romney would lead us to about the same place: more debt and more government babysitting.

So it doesn't matter if Obama or Romney wins in 2012. Therefore, the next best thing to Paul being President would not be a Romney presidency, but to have Paul lose to Obama in the general election.

Paul would get to debate Obama. There could not be a starker contrast, and America needs to see it.

Funniest joke of 2012 so far was Bachman calling herself the Iron lady of the campaign. What an insult to Margaret Thatcher. England should sue the clown.

If Romney gets elected, first thing he'll do is fire everybody in the country and sell what's left to foreign corporations.

It's been my observation that all politicians lie, the question is do they lie for the benefit of the country or to benefit themselves? Ron Paul seems to lie to protect himself (regard his reaction to his own newsletter), Obama seems to lie to protect us (regard bin Laden). The rest of the republican slate are clearly self serving dissemblers.

Consider Ron Paul's reality...anarchy where the meanest guy with the biggest gun rules the neighborhood, vs. Obama's reality where we move away from the Republican crafted mess that is now government. No one in the Republican primary has any intention of moving us to moderation, they all want to stand as far to the authoritarian right as they can get, continuing the trend of the last 24 years that got us where we are now.....smart plan....NOT!

I'm hoping Iowans prove that there is such a thing as an intelligent republican voter and vote "none of the above", but I'm not holding my breath......

none of theses polls take into account all the other affiliations that people will vote from for Ron Paul. He'll win with 40% i my guess.

The way the MSM have treated him is pathetic, the establishment is freaking out and its becoming more and more obvious each day. Barring massive voter fraud RP wins easily in Iowa

I have seen it a ton here. Ron Paul is unelectable, he is an anarchist, heck I think I even seen a racist comment in there.

So tell me why do you want your grandkids being born into debt?

So tell me why do you want to be drafted to go to war with Iran?

So tell me why do you think we should continue allowing politicians and bankers get out of jail free cards when the very same actions they have taken, taken by you or I, would result in 10 to 20 in the federal penitentiary?

I have come to the realization that the difference between the Neocon and the Democrat is simple. They disagree on abortion and the size of government. One wants it to be 99.9% and the other 100%. If you can't figure out that you people are being duped then go ahead and vote for Bush 3.0 err Obama or Bush 4.0 Romney. Personally I will be "wasting my vote" on the one man who understands that the oath to defend the constitution isn't made lightly and doesn't magically forget it is there when ever he feels like it.

Ron Paul is an idiot. The rest of the bunch are just bunch of fools. They persist with failed policies.

but I have a secret way to get rich. Goldman Sachs has the secret to wealth :). How to get rich quick? YOu jobless bums. Get in on the action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddjB-k6QOk&feature=relmfu

Obama 2012! 'nuff said!

Sometimes it is difficult to imagine the Republican party sinking any lower, then I read all the zealots tauting Ron Paul. It isn't easy to find marginally intelligent people with so few scruples that they can spout the GOP party line with a straight face. It takes more than being able to make up offensive names to call our President to lead our nation. At some point we must come together and support our leader as he tries to keep all of us out of the abyss, or we will find out the awful truth of "divided we fall".

President Ron Paul!!!

You should never support someone who you believe fails as a leader just for the sake of solidarity. People can fall together just as easliy as fall divided; sometimes being together cause others to drag you down with them. As for name calling, neither side is even close to being innocent, so please, stop playing the self-righteous card. And You, A Sojourner here, are guilty of smear catagorizing as badly as any. Ron Paul Zealots? How is that any different from being an Obama Zealot; believing he can do no wrong? Too often people, fail to bother even discussing actual issue, and I'm begining to believe most people dont actually grasp what they are, nevermind being able to critically think about them beyond what party lines tell them what to think.

All I can say is; WHO CARES!

This Iowa caucus thing is a joke. The media continues to hype this story about a few thousand right wing extremists voting for their favorite right wing extremist politician. Nothing in this exercise in futility is representative of the rest of America; it’s just a small group of misguided and misinformed old white people playing Russian roulette with our counties future. It’s a very depressing waste of time and printers ink.

Big Al - All I can say is; WHO CARES!

Your comment thing is a joke. You're just a small minded, misguided and misinformed guy playing russian roulette with our countries future. It's a very depressing waste of time.

Brad-3109097

Ron Paul Zealots? How is that any different from being an Obama Zealot; believing he can do no wrong?

But that's just it, Brad. This is where all you guys on the right miss the boat: It's not that we think he can do no wrong; it's that you believe he can do nothing right. You have given him credit for nothing and blamed him for everything. EVERYBODY knows who is mostly to blame for the messes of the past decade. Let's not pretend anymore.

Old Paul has one foot in the grave and his other foot in his mouth !!!!!!!!!

Iowans, if you want to have any chance to beat BHO, Paul is the only guy in this pack of second string gop clowns who has any chance at all. He is turning the heads of people who have generally voted dem all their lives [raises hand]. We are in a national crisis, know it or not, and are not that far from seeing serious civil disturbance aimed at toppling the parasite atop our national heap. I voted for fell for BHO's snake oil the first time around but he has been dishonest in every major test he's had to choose between what's good for us, the American People, and what's good for the elite. When we have been thrown some crumbs, the elite got the whole rest of the loaf, while he's made to look like "what could I do?". Horse@!$%#.

As I have gotten older, the idiocy of political parties has become ever more apparent to me and I have tried to vote for people whom I thought would best serve the best interests of my people, the American People. In America today, a political party is as meaningless as a football team, and the entire dance between gops and dems as meaningful as a Pro Wrestling match. More horse@!$%#.

Both parties serve the elite parasite that is driving America down into its own destruction for the benefit of psychopaths here and abroad. Paul is crazy. But Paul is crazy in a way that we need now. Paul will lead the repeal of the treasonous 'patriot act'. Paul will oversee the breakup of the fascist 'homeland insecurity' that will be the instrument of our enslavement. The rest of the gops are bought, paid for, and tagged. So is BHO. Not so, Ron Paul. I say this not because of belief, but by simple observation of what ALL of the major propaganda outlets on both sides of our imaginary political divide are trying to do to him. They are afraid of him and he is their enemy and, truly, the enemy of our enemy, no matter how weird he may look to you, is OUR FRIEND! We NEED Ron Paul at this time in our history.

We must also look with care to his choice of VP because either the elite or the mossad will be taking aim at him and his life will be in great danger. Look, just look at the full court press that BOTH sides are applying against him and you KNOW in your heart, he's making the psychopaths very nervous. That is what we need. They are experts at selecting people as their tools and they hate this guy. That, and only that, tells me that he is The One. Even if you do not understand what I am saying, but are unhappy with the way things are going, choosing Paul in this primary is as clear a statement of protest as you can make. However it's looked at, choosing Paul will send a message that will be heard all over America and will make Iowa the Voice of America. Help us fix ourselves. Please.

People the Country is bankrupt & China is our Banker. Ron Paul will get us out of this mess

So, lets all say this together...Ron Paul 2012

Vote for anyone else & U have wasted your vote

Well, I have found some of the real reason why so many people hate Mitt Romney! If you will Google you will find this man has closed some of the largest companies that employee thousands of people and my company was one of them. Here is a list and see if you ever worked or know someone’s life that has been affected by this man that wants to be your President, yet when you was making his millions he didn’t care about anyone but himself. Although, he is not there now he is still drawing money on the companies been closed .

Avaya

Lucent Technologies

Polymer Group

Staples

IBM

Phillip Electronics

Kimberly-Clark

Google

Yahoo

Gateway

KB Toys

Wow ..... I just ddidn't trust him. This only validates my feelings

who is r.paul

Ron Paul is a candidate that takes the John Birch Society seriously. LMAO

PJ - I don't expect paul to get much over 25% of the Republican vote. You cannot promote the abolition of certain government agencys, no matter how wrong, corrupt or bad they may be without a solid alternate. He is not going further because his foreign policy points do not wash with the far majority of Americans or even Republicans.

He has an alternative the state agencies that have been in place longer than the redundant federal ones DB

Just imagine Ron Paul as president trying to work with congress... and you think Obama is facing a party of no??

Nothing he runs on would ever pass. Ever.

Yeah, RP might not get over 25% of the Republican Vote...

but that 25% won't vote for Romney or Gingrich.

Paulistas would rather not vote, or vote for Obama, or write-in Ron Paul...than vote for the filthy neo-cons.

Obama is going to win 2012 in a landslide because 25% of the republican party won't vote for your neocon nominee.

How does that sit with you? :)

/Truth

• RON PAUL needs to:

1. address the racism issues in the Newsletters better
2. explain how ignoring Iran until they can send a nuke to Israel or our way is gonna work
3. a better explanation why 9/11 was our fault
4. how ignoring Al Qaeda or the Taliban is going to protect American citizens in any way from violent mass terrorist attacks???
5. how letting the country fall apart when there is NO regulation or agencies making sure cut-throat corporations aren't screwing the 99% is gonna work out!!

They will even resort to election fraud. The media smears and attack has not worked. They are setting the stage now in the Iowa caucuas. The pundits are paid to say Santorum will win even if it means going against logic. They do this only because they can not give all the votes to Romney it would look suspicious. Wkae up people. Elections are not real. Revolution will happen and I only hope in peace.

There are so many things that the American people don't know about what goes on behind the doors of government. But there are a few things that are evident when you sit back and look at the nosedive this nation is in. The media organizations are completely dominated by corporate interests. There used to be thousands of individually owned media organizations. News papers, TV stations, radio, magazines, etc.. They have been consolidated (illegally monopolized) into about 6 large corporations. Therefore, controlling the hearts and minds of millions of registered voters can be done by controlling 6 companies. And it has been done flawlessly. They control public perception of the candidates. We have been listening to these bastard$ for years electing the candidates they promote and steering clear of the ones they oppose. The media is the most destructive weapon that the world has ever known. Hitler used it to control the hearts and minds of the Germans. He was able send us into World War 2 with it. Now, it is being used to elect candidates to run the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. We are not in control of our country. We all know it. For the first time since John F. Kennedy was in office, we have the opportunity to elect a candidate that can put the power back into the hands of the people. A candidate that can give us the change that Obama was elected for but never got. These are drastic times we are in. We need drastic change. And we need it now. Do your own research. Don't let the corporate owned media dictate to you who to vote for. We have listened to them for years and you see where it has gotten us. They are wealthy and we are being made poor. The poor can be more easily controlled. One of the last things our forefathers put in the constitution was freedom of the press. This was the final tool in a system of government checks and balances. It was put in the constitution so that if all other systems failed and the tyrants corrupted our government, we could expose the criminals and elect them out. But unfortunately, the criminals own our media now. The last system has failed. We need to find a way to think and communicate without corporate media thought domination and vote decisively. Do your own research. Think for yourself. Check out what Ron Paul is really about. Go to his website and see who he really is. Then vote accordingly. God bless America. It's time to take her back!

i actually did some research and i wouldn't vote for Ron Paul. i went to wikipedia-there's no politics there. it justs states the facts about him, his life, his upbringing, his education, etc. it was all very clear. He's a xenophobe. he wants to remove this country from the rest of the world and crawl into some dark little box where free enterprise rules, not democracy. he wants to remove this country from ALL international organizations. he wants to do away with the department of education and let the states take over. every year, the states take more money from our childrens' education and before long only the wealthy will be able to give their children a decent education-OUR children will be left with some second rate education like the rest of the third world countries. Yes, he wants to remove the government from every single aspect of the americans' lives, EXCEPT when it comes to women! i guess we're just not american enough. because he believes that WE should have the government up our vaginas, dictating when we can and cannot have children. he spouts all this morality based on his fundamentalist dogma, and then forgets the very basic tenets of what Jesus taught us. "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and just as important "Do not judge lest ye be judged." But! if you're gay, i guess those two ideals don't count. or, if you're poor. or, if you're a minority. or, if you're a woman.

Ron Paul stands for the rich, white, heterosexual, christian, MAN. he wants NO bars on their behavior, their ability to get rich at the expense of the poor, and their backwards ideas of sexuality. i read his previous papers. i read his previous attempts at legislation. and he tried to do some good things that i applaud, especially when it comes to personal liberties-BUT, he goes TOO far. and that's the problem.

i don't trust him for another reason. the papers he wrote years ago that were racist-his response was not satisfactory. he said he didn't read them, and he didn't condone their content. well, he's either an idiot who lets his underlings think for him, or he's a liar and knew exactly what he wrote. either way, it has destroyed the last inkling of any thought i had about voting for him.

we may not be happy with what Obama accomplished in the last three years, but let's remember that the republicans are not blameless here and they declared before Obama was even inaugurated that their sole purpose would be to make sure he didn't get re-elected. they have done everything ethical and unethical to thwart everything he has tried to accomplish, even voting against things that they supported under pres. bush. i will vote for Obama. the truth is, unless we have a true super majority in congress(what we had wasn't) nothing will ever get done.

• Address the racism issues in the Newsletters better

Why? Your friends don't need any explanation, and your enemies won't believe you anyway. I'm much more concerned about candidates who think "corporations are people too". Tell me which candidate doesn't hold all the people of this country in contempt; lying to get elected, and forgetting their campaign promises the day after the election.

• Explain how ignoring Iran until they can send a nuke to Israel or our way is gonna work

Iran isn't stupid, and has no common border with Israel. What's in it for them? Second question: What makes you think they are working on a bomb anyway? The same propaganda that was used on IRAQ? I guess you can fool some of the people all the time.

• A better explanation why 9/11 was our fault

Take a look at all the US is doing in the middle east. As Field Marshall Rommel said to Hitler, regarding the actions of the French underground, "Why do you marvel at the strength of the underground, when the actions of your own SS drive every decent Frenchman to join?"

• how ignoring Al Qaeda or the Taliban is going to protect American citizens in any way from violent mass terrorist attacks???

Don't worry, we are not ignoring these guys. They were are friends against the Russians, then our enemies, and now they are our friends again in Libya. First we help them, then we bomb them, then we hire them. Who knows what our best and brightest will think of next?

• how letting the country fall apart when there is NO regulation or agencies making sure cut-throat corporations aren't screwing the 99% is gonna work out!!

What regulation do we have now, when there is a revolving door between government and industry, and the regulators and the regulated are one and the same? The country is already falling apart! Where were the regulators regarding Madoff and MF Global? The Fraudulent mortgage foreclosures?

Look, if you like the status quo, then the other republicans and the current administration should suit you just fine.

Alessa, there are politics in Wikipedia. You say Ron Paul "wants to remove this country from the rest of the world and crawl into some dark little box where free enterprise rules, not democracy. he wants to remove this country from ALL international organizations. he wants to do away with the department of education and let the states take over". Do you understand we are being railroaded into a one world government. Also know as the New World Order. We need to get our economy back in the control of the US citizens. We do not need to have our financial survival tied to China or anyone else. We are being railroaded into a one world currency and a one world standard of living. And that standard will be poverty. Poor people are easiest to control. Do you realize that we have military bases (that we pay dearly for) in nearly 70% of the countries across the planet. So, do you believe we should police the world? Dictate to the other countries how to live. If they don't do as we insist, then we should bomb them? The American people are the best people in the world. But, unfortunately we are no longer running our country. It is running us in the name of corporate interest and greed. The media uses fear tactics against us in order to justify military invasion and occupation of 70% of the world. In world war 2 we stopped Hitler from taking over the world. Now, it seems our corporate leadership has succeeded in doing what Hitler wanted to. We need to stop attacking other nations. We need to focus on our own nation. We need to have a strong defense. Not a continuous offense. If we stop attacking other countries, we might regain some of the respect we used to have. Terrorists don't attack us because of the way we live or because of our standard of living. We get attacked because we attack them first. You'll never hear this from the media, because they are owned by the corporate interests that are pushing for the military action. We attacked the middle east for what? In the end, it was OIL. And we all knew it eventually. And what happened to the price of gas? It doubled. And as far as the states taking over, I have something to say about that too. When this country first began, the Federal government was to have very limited control. The individual states were to have more control than the Fed. We need to reduce federal control and give it back to the states. Where it belonged in the first place. And about this media story about what was in a brochure 20 years ago, come on. The media has had thousands of maggots leafing through every shred of anything about the life of Ron Paul in order to find something they could exploit. Their corporate puppet masters are terrified of Ron Paul. If that's all they could dig up, that's a compliment to Ron Paul. Hmmm, lets say you have spent the last 40 years or so in politics, do you think you could explain something on one brochure allegedly written and printed by someone else with your name on from 20 years ago? This guy is sqeaky clean if that's all that they could find.

AWESOME^^^^^

dog- don't bother I spent an hour answering piggy's questions and he still copy and pastes this same thing on every Ron Paul article.

The alternative to these government agencies is that for over 150 years the country did just fine with out these government agencies. For over 150 years the country did just fine without a centrally planned socialistic economy. The fact is that most Republicans want these agencies eliminated and many independents want the agencies eliminated as well. Maybe its you progressive big government types that are really on the fringes of American society.

Who is Ron Paul ?

Ron Paul is an anarchist plain and simple! The only good idea I've ever heard come out of his mouth was "Bring all our troops home", the rest is extremist B.S. The result of a Paul Presidency would be the end of America as we know it and a long hard dark age for all but 1/10th of 1% of American citizens.

The Devil-1138528

Maybe its you progressive big government types that are really on the fringes of American society

Big government, small government. We are still a government "...of the people, by the people and for the people", as Abraham Lincoln saw it. I would prefer to see it stay that way. Ron Paul would dismantle our government and replace it with what?

Hey there Ricky's Real used car dealer, Ron Paul would replace the current government that is of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations with a government that is of the people, by the people, and for the people. Abraham Lincoln would be appalled at what we have let occur in this country to this point. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate here that follows the constitution to the letter. Mainstream media would like for you to believe he is not what this country needs. My vote will go to the candidate that will invoke drastic and real change in this country. You need to look around. Our way of life is on its way out. We need to make a U turn now. We don't have time to trim a little here and a little there. It's not going to be enough. We need the change we were supposed to get with Obama, but instead were hung out to dry. Ron Paul has the corporations running scared. That information alone should be enough to let you know he is the right guy for the job. Those that got the bailouts are seriously worried. It's time for those who got bailed to be jailed.

Hey Ricky I am hard pressed to believe you when you say "A government of the people, by the people and for the people" SINCE WHEN !! are you just waking up from a time capsule, because that has not been the case for many decades. Whether you realize it or not you are campaigning for Ron Paul with those kind of comments. Thats exactly what he is trying to achieve.

Since you just got out of a time capsule let me enlighten you it is currently a government of the lobbyist (of big business and banking) for the purpose of big business and banking to get rich ... and by the lobbyist. SO if you really want the government you so speak either vote for Ron Paul or get back in your time capsule and go back to sleep.

We may not agree with all of Ron Pauls ideals but at least we can all agree he is the only entity in government who stands for extreme change in government which is exactly what america has needed for many years.

commonsense101-3853235

Hey Ricky I am hard pressed to believe you when you say "A government of the people, by the people and for the people" SINCE WHEN !! are you just waking up from a time capsule, because that has not been the case for many decades. Whether you realize it or not you are campaigning for Ron Paul with those kind of comments. Thats exactly what he is trying to achieve.

Of course it is still the case. As long as I'm not prevented or disenfranchised from voting it sure as hell is a government of the people, by the people and for the people! And as we can clearly see by tonight's vote in Iowa, a handful of votes can make a difference. And if my vote is the one that keeps your candidate out, then I've done my job as an American. Scott Walker's recall will be the next shining example of democracy of the people at work. Scott Walker is going to be joining the ranks of the unemployed much sooner than he had originally anticipated - thanks to we, the people.

Further proof...Ron Paul is running for the wrong party's nomination.

I really don't think Ron Paul expects to get the Republican nomination, and suspect that was never his intent. His time involved in the debates has gotten him some of the best coverage he could've found, but the man isn't stupid and knows that party selecting him to lead the ticket is a slim proposition. My (personal, biased and without sources) suspicion is that he plans to run on an independent platform as soon as the Republican candidate is announced.

I do not think he will. He knows that Obama is extremely bad for freedom and just think what he would do with a second term.

Ron Paul is in it for Ron Paul. Hasn't he convinced you that he's an individualist? That means everyone gets theirs first before leaving any scraps for others.

If Paul was to win the nomination do you think that the anti abortion GOPers would vote for a candidate that thinks it is a state issue would vote for him? They want it illegal in all 50 states. He says a state can vote to keep it legal. Do you think that anti drug GOPers would vote for him when he thinks that's a state issue? Would it be OK if a state less than one hundred miles from your house made cocaine and pot completely legal. According to Ron Paul that would be OK. What about a state legalizing prostitution? All possible with Paul as president. One thing for sure Paul supporters don't know much about what Paul says and does. Look at his earmark record.

Paul will run as an Independent just to teach the RE-peat-the-lie-to-the-PUBLIC-ans a lesson. He knows that Obama is no real threat to "freedom". In fact, it wouldn't surprise me to see Ron Paul speak well of Obama after he wins a second term and throws off his corporate handlers to "become the person we've been waiting for". First he'll school the Iranians, in October of 2012, and then he'll school SCOTUS and Congress in January 2013. Don't say I didn't give you notice.

Obama would love nothing more than to run against Paul or Gingrich or Perry or Bachman. Only Romney or Huntsman could give Obama problems. Huntsman is the best man in the race but of course that won't work for the extreme right. Huntsman is a true conservative but you know the right wing. If it's not lunatic fringe they're not buying it.

Anyone that has been a career diplomat is not necessarily a conservative and was put in there for a purpose. More of the same BS. The CIA helps cause the problems, the State Dept gives legitimacy to our meddling, or helps set it up by sending our adversaries "mixed signals" like when Amb. April Glaspie told Saddam in summer of 1990 that the US wouldn't give a @!$%# if he invaded Kuwait. Bottom line is that this guy might come off as a moderate, or not as kooky, but that doesn't mean he isn't a politician or work for our "owners" as George Carlin so aptly put it a few years ago.

who cares if only Romney or Huntsman can win?

I'm done voting for the 'lesser of two evils'.

I'll throw my vote away on a write-in Ron Paul, or a protest vote for Obama, than for your neo-cons.

Enjoy Obama's second term. Maybe the republican party will learn something once they get smoked on yet another election that they should have won.

80's me generation at work here. Snort all you can, gotta get it!

Yeah. A nice escape from paying for that 50s and 60s credit card generation.

I don't fancy paying any more of their bills.

Boomers are the same as OWS, just older and more willing to hit the polls to vote the treasury into their pockets instead of picketing for the same.

I agree. Once the boomer generation dies off, we will be set! Lets just hasten the process.

Ron Paul 2012!

Ron Paul????????

Come on children, let's get on with the adult talk. I'm willing to entertain the idea of Romney as President (although I WILL be voting Obama). It's time to get past all the clown talk...

So nice of you to think that way about the boomer generation hope your children feel the same way about you. That was the deal we were given pay into the system to support the previous generation which we did and you'd pay for us. We had no choice by law. We worked for our forty some years now you call us lazy. When you actually put forty years in the workforce than you can talk.

Speaking of George Carlin......... Here are what his thoughts are regarding politicians. Rated R!

Relevent then ---- Relevent now! RIP George!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1lZMTCqf8&feature=related

Isn't Ron Paul old enough to be the grandfather of baby boomers???

And I guess old enough to be the great great grandfather of these youngins just old enough to vote.

Talk about bridgin the generation gaps ..... lol

But isn't it amazing how us youngins and the baby boomers are standing together to vote for Dr. Paul?

there is no such thing as throwing your vote away.... anyone who votes based on party alone is a fool......

ninnybon

He knows that Obama is extremely bad for freedom and just think what he would do with a second term.

You know that Obama is extremely bad for freedom... just think what he would do with a second term? This is the problem I have with so many Republicans: You know so much now, you don't even think you have to think anymore.

ninnybon

I do not think he will. He knows that Obama is extremely bad for freedom and just think what he would do with a second term.

Two things you said; one is right, the other is not. "I do not think" and "He knows that Obama is extremely bad for freedom". That, and you're trolling.

Who would do that to some poor chimpanzee? <it's a joke folks!>

Monkey not a chimp.

I stand corrected, a squirrel monkey. The gopers can't even steal an intelligent monkey to run in IOWA for the republican nomination.

go-getter

The propaganda is the lack there-of. They refuse to take him seriously and only keep insulting him by asking him who he would support when he doesn't get the nomination.

As far as unelectable, I disagree. He has more support than Obama had at this stage. And one important thing is that he has huge support from the under thirty crowd. That is what got Pres. Clinton elected.

@john...noted. While I don't discredit the under 30 crowd, we have seen what their vote got us and this age group lacks wisdom. I don't like extremism of any sort and Ron Paul has some extreme views. Granted, we are needing some extreme changes to take place in our country but within moderation. A too extreme change and we end up in complete disarray (even worse than we are now).

A 15 trillion dollar growing debt , kind of puts us in disarray now..

@bigben...notice the "even worse than we are now".

I have listened to many, many interviews that he has done, and honestly I think he knows he can't get anything extreme passed. I believe what he plans for the long term is the best direction for the country, even if it took fifty years.

I think the bigger question is what can we do with such a dis-functional Congress. While I believe in most of his views, Mr Paul couldn't do anything the way that stands.

go-getter , tomorrows debt will be worse than today's.....I got your message..Happy New Year , to you..

If you google Ron Paul every day, as I have done for 6 months, you would have noticed that the same day Ron Paul jumped to #1 in Iowa, #2 in New Hampshire as well as brought in $4m in ONE weekend (all of these events happened on Dec 18th-19th) the news results on google (which aggregates news from all over) barely bothered to touch on these three issues but rather spammed countless negative articles about two decade old newsletters. Do you think it's a coincidence that all the positive news was ignored and tons of negative news was drugged up the second Ron Paul started doing very well?
When candidates are in the spotlight people start looking into their pasts, but the light hadn't even shown on Paul before there were hundreds of rehashes of old negative pieces to ensure that he would stay out of the spotlight.

In any event, over 20% of the voters in Iowa and New Hampshire (the first two states where people take a very close look at the candidates) are putting their support behind Ron Paul, so unless you think over 20% of the people in Iowa and New Hampshire are "fringe extremists" your argument isn't sound.

There is nothing fringe or extremist about the Constitution, there is nothing fringe or extremist about freedom and liberty. There is something extreme about a 16 TRILLION dollar debt though... especially when no one but Ron Paul has a plan to tackle it (and no, stealing from poor people through inflation isn't a plan to tackle it).

to John--What we are witnessing in congress is a hard stand against the administration that has produced the policies and events that have transpired in the past 3 years. While I don't like what has come about, it's the reality we live in. Take extreme positions and get extreme responses. This current admin has taken such a stand and with it has come a backlash. There is a lot of controversy and people can't get past some of the things that have come about. I do agree with you...we need a change with the way Washington conducts business...and get big business out of Washington.

@bigben...happy new years to you too brother...May 2012 be WAY BETTER than 2011!!

go-getter

There is one time that I would accept Ron Paul violating the Constitution. And that would be, if he were elected to make an executive order outlawing lobbyists in Washington. That would clear out some of the riff-raff.

Honey, you don't see the anti-paul propaganda because you're spouting it when you refer to him as "fringe", "extreme" or "unelectable".

john, while I understand your thinking, I would not or cannot accept violating the Constitution. It is the very foundation and fabric we hold dear. It cannot be violated. You are right though...lobbyists should have limited access to gov.

@go-getter. Ron Paul may be fringe, but trust those who know that the mainstream direction this country is headed spells certain doom. It's going to take some fringe (Constitution-based) thinking and acting to right this ship, and Paul is definitely the man.

We are soooooo screwed unless Paul gets the opportunity to fix this place up.

Here is a video on his foreign policy. Tell me he is anything other "right on the mark" after you watch it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo

Peace and prosperity, brothers and sisters!

You are right, and I agree. I just wish we would see a congress just once that would consider passing a balanced budget amendment and make lobbying illegal. It would set the stage for a good century.

@patriot--propaganda:information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

Not spreading propaganda...just stating an opinion based on what I have read in various articles and the debates I have heard.

When Ron Paul starts getting the bright lights shown on his flaky record & past associations.....y'all might be getting sentimental over the time when he was ignored.

to monstera--I just don't agree with his views.

Go-getter, the thing I found that you have to watch is how the media is reporting things. I recall a few months back when ever station was practically screaming that Ron Paul supported Iran having nuclear weapons. However, when you took the time to locate and watch the actual clip of him speaking about it (which few bothered to do) what he actually said was "I can understand why Iran would want nuclear weapons". I think we can ALL understand exactly why Iran would want nuclear weapons too - but that doesn't mean we would support it! This is just an example, but telling as to how things are skewed in the media. This may well happen with all candidates, I don't know. But I do want to thank you for actually bothering to take the time to look into things before spouting off ignorant rhetoric, it's nice to see someone with some sense and the ability for logic!

Thanks Mo for the compliment. Happy new years to you. Let's hope for a better year in 2012!

Lobbying itself isn't the problem and restricting lobbying isn't the ideal solution. The people should have a right to petition their government, and this is what lobbying is supposed to be.

The problem is when the government spends $3,700,000,000,000 PER YEAR... that's a huge chunk of money to slice up to special interests. If the federal government only did what it was constitutionally supposed to be doing, then that spending would be a tiny fraction of what it is and lobbyists wouldn't have such a huge pie to slice up.

The best way to "restrict" lobbying is to reduce it's profitability for special interests by reducing spending. That way the people still have the means to petition their government but we cut out all the ridiculous waste and profiteering.

When lobbying is by corporations and affects policy, it is the problem.

You folks that want to see lobbying out of Washington should get a clue. It is guaranteed under the right of free speech... so forget that. What CAN be abolished is the idea that money is the same as speech. What has to be changed is election law. Every candidate has to have the same amount of financing from the same pool of money whether it is for the presidency or congress. The problem is the special interest money (and the supreme court's ruling that corporations are people and can donate as much money to a political candidacy as they want) that gets the candidates elected and puts them in the back pockets of those who supported him. Focus your efforts on the right issues... it should be illegal for any congressman to take any money more than a 100.00 dinner where lobbyists can express their free speech to them ... and all this SuperPac and special interest election money has to end.

Just to clarify. The lobbying I write of is about corporations getting politicians to vote for what they want in return for hefty donations. It is lobbying and only in Washington is it legal. In the rest of the country it is a bribe.

I don't know what your definition of lobbying is, but maybe that is our difference.

Bribing govt officials isn't free speech Rick. Free Speech as the obvious intent is, is that people have the right to address the grievances they have with the govt, not give them money, special favors as bribes. Also, why do foreign lobbies take precendents over the American People? And i am not only talking about Israel. China, Turkey, etc have powerful lobbyist in DC.

Ron Paul 2012!! Here are his supporters! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FzJfxyugek

Santorum is a much better selection than the crazy old man. Seemingly no flip-flopping, young, energy. Of all the candidates, I can see Santorum, Romney, or Huntsman having an intelligent and energetic debate with Obama..

Ron Paul, imo, is a fringe extremist, and don't see him as electable.

Fringe extremists are people who want to start a war with Iran. Ron Paul is absolutely electable and if he isn't elected, this country is screwed. The economy is a disaster now and Ron Paul is the only one serious enough to turn things around.

If you want more of the same elect anyone else.... Obama, Romney, Grinch.... it doesn't matter. Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. Ron Paul is the only one who is serious about cutting FAT out of government. The ONLY one!

xavier see box marked federal election fund on your 10-40 form. All they have to do is prove they are viable candidates.

On the other hand, if you Google his name, and click on the link titled Spreading Sanatorum, you may be in for a surprise.

Hey, bigbenalaska, Do you think that if Santorum keeps moving up in the "poles", they will arrest him for pole dancing in public ? Just asking . . .

Hogie , good one.........."Happy New Year"........

He may indeed! I think He will pick up the bachmon and the bigot Perrys supporters

Santorum has the "Palin Challenge". Can he muster the fast building of a national organization without falling on his face.

I don't know how Santorum would do against Obama in a debate. Clearly Romney would meet his match, Newt may dominate those (I heard Obama would want a lot less debates against Gingrich). Bachmann overstepped what she was ready for.

One milestone at a time though, let's see how he does on tuesday night.

I hear that he(Obama) would welcome more debates with Gingrich.

Santorum would choke against Obama, everytime. He don't have much smarts. I read one comment in here, Santorum is going in his pants right now and started wearing depends. He can't hold back right now thinking he almost has a chance right now. So going in his pants now, he thinks hes like Reagan. Then Paul is from texas, leaves him out. Flip-flop looks like he just might get the green light again, maybe, but I'm still saying its going to be Santorum, they all know they don't have a chance and so thats why it will end up Santorum, a landslide against him won't even phase him. He's shameless. He don't care if he never works again in politics, he's a spoiled rich boy. A landslide will never allow him to work in DC again. So they kill two birds with one stone with Santorum and they can go back to the drawing board again for 16.

Anthrax
Pentagon
Shanksville
Twin Towers
Building Seven
everybody knows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfS8LyeUyM
ten years of false flag investigation evidence

There is no such thing as a 'conspiracy'

never study any part of the 9-11 tale

Shamdebate (very apt username for a liar like you) -- How much is the Muslim Brotherhood paying you to post this crap online?

You do know, Jennifer, that one can disagree with the actions and views of the current President and not be a "bagger"? You can understand this, right? I'm very glad that everyone you know has a job. Most people I know finally have one too. Granted, the people I know are making a fraction of their previous salary, and many are stuck in contract positions with no benefits and barely surviving, but yes they do have a "job". As far as "saving us from a recession" even the economists would disagree with you. The miserable economy that you've experienced the past few years is just exactly that - a recession. Yes, we appear to be coming out of it (we're not in the clear yet), but it is a serious offront to all the people who lost their jobs, homes, vehicles and everything else to declare a recession was avoided.

If Obama had followed through on any of the promises he made that I was hoping for, that might be tolerable. Alas, one need only search youtube for "Obama broken promises" to get tons of videos of him making promises he broke. The most popular seem to be about 7 promises made in under 2 minutes that were all later broken.

Everything I objected to Bush doing, Obama has been doing on steroids. How is it possible that those who still support Obama recognized in 2008 how badly we needed change, yet four years later no longer recognize the same need?

Youre right patriot... but the issue is probably more about the Republicans declaring that their only mission over the next 4 years is to get Obama out of office... and then truly become the party of "No" that has brought people to realize that Obama really has had little or no say in any matter ... especially considering by the time he took office, our country had bigger issues supposedly on the brink of collapse.... We do need change... like most of Obama's original supporters, I feel that he is really the only one to still be able to get it done.... especially if he gets a second term and doesnt have to try to please everyone to get relected.... Obama will be what everyone wanted to be when he was elected this second time around... I believe that.. obviously others do too

@Patriot. Yes, President Obama has broken promises, just like every politician who has made promises, but you have to be realistic. If you were thrown headfirst into a fire, you might be too busy dousing the flames at your feet to keep every promise you made. I voted for him, and even though I am disappointed with his performance, I cannot fault the entire situation to broken promises. Ron Paul draws the voters he has because people are tired of Washington getting rich while America goes broke. The man is right when it comes to the government overstepping its bounds, but some of his ideas are a little out there. Imagine pulling every soldier from around the world back home, then something arises that does have an impact on our national security. It would take months and trillions of dollars to get our military back into position. He's right about jumping into every conflict around the world, we can't police them all, but there are times that the U.S. intervention can be crucial. America really needs the common sense of those out there paying their bills and working for a living, throw the rest of them out. But name calling on each side helps nothing. The media want us at each others throat so business as usual can resume. For those calling for anyone but Obama by calling the man dumb, you know who you are..... there are many politicians worse and I wouldn't say that just anybody could handle such monumental stress and do a better job. Bush had Cheney to make all his tough decisions===Bill Clinton had Hillary.

Remember the old axiom When you are up to your ass in alligators it is hard to remember your initial objective was to drain the swamp. All politicians tell you what they would like to see for America before they have to deal with the alligators.

Obama has not saved us from anything. We are treading water.

You do realize that the FAKE Republicans wanted you underwater and DROWNED for going on 3 years now? Obama threw you an expensive life preserver, and you're b!tching abot the color and the cost.

I think once President Obama has a real house working with him, things will get better and he's going to hold up most of his end. He lost a lot of time from the NO gangs. Clean up the senate and congress and a lot of the problems will disappear. It still totally amazes me that people think he walked into a picnic. Obama wasn't even moved into the WH yet, when Dubya had things so screwed up and was so close to walking away from it all, but Obama went through the books real quick and they found the country in a very bad state, Dubya got caught and Obama did pull us out of that mess fairly well, experts actually say he could of asked for a little more money to do it right, but what he asked for, congress actually told him he's going to need more and gave it to him, because they knew Dubya had the country all screwed up bad, real bad. Then theres people coming in here and their panel of experts disagree when the whole world knows it went down like this. Where they find them?

You know what the best part about it all? When Dubya was leaving office, he knew he was going to get caught on the state the country was in then, he actually told, I believe it was Rumsfield that they were so close to pulling it off, they just needed a few more months before things started to fall apart. He actually said something like, "We were so close Rummy, so close" meaning they got caught leaving office with the country entering a depression. Yesiree, look it up people, Dubya got caught and well thats when Obama tried everything he could to get the economy going, taking beat up cars in for trade ins and anything they could come up with along with the stimulus, which the experts claim should of been a little bit bigger to ensure the economys recovery. Then these people come in here claiming their panel of experts say that wasn't so, ask Dubya he will tell you its true, but they claim different. Then these same people will vote too? Ouch

They hadn't anticipated the NAKED SHORT sellers and put options dragging the market down as fast as it imploded, just like WTC#7 on 9/11/2001. Also an inside JOB.

@nikuki...the presidency is more than just "a debate", however "epic" it might be.

Obama is a left turn into oncoming traffic.

Nope, its the "NO" people in congress and the senate that will be gone and a functional house with a lot of new people in it that are willing to go and do their jobs instead of trying to take care of their party and progress will begin. I really wish people vote out McCain, that guys trouble, vote him out already. Vote all them people out. Put a completely new group in, show them we mean business too.

What are you're thoughts on him being 77 years old.....

bigbenalaska

Not to answer for Monty, but I would say a running mate of the same mind with ethics.

I think its no big deal.

77 years old? In dog years maybe.

john , nice................Benny , glad you think it's no big deal , makes me not worry so much about getting older........

Bigben, my though is that means he has been working towards this his whole life. He does not have an ulterior motive for running. Unlike the Grinch and flip-flopper Romney, Paul doesn't have years ahead to look forward to book sales, selling $60K speeches like Gingrich or any other motive of personal gain.

Ron Paul can give the American people the trustworthy, incorruptible candidate we've needed for a long time. As for VP, he has great options like Andrew Napolitano, Gary Johnson, or even Romney for a strong competitor against Obama who is a warmonger that supports all the things I mentioned previously like the TSA/SOPA/NDAA/drug-war/foreign wars/PatriotAct/etc.

Monty , I like Ron Paul , I just wish he was younger......he may be 81 when he finishes his first four years...could he run for re-election..??

@bigbenalaska Ron Paul is 76, but he's in better shape than many men years younger. His staff reports that he often works 16 hour days. I think his passion for what he is trying to accomplish makes him oblivious to the grueling nature of his schedule. He is an avid bicyclist and runs. Since his Plan to Restore America starts cutting $1 Trillion a year in spending immediately, and culminates in a balanced budget in one term, his age doesn't seem like an issue.

Patriot , I like that ......"Happy New Year".......

Ben, if you read up on Paul's health, you'll see his family members lived into their 90s. He is a lifelong doctor of medicine and is in great health. He bikes, jogs, eats healthy, and is as smart and lucid as he was 20+ years ago. Look at Perry and the Grinch, younger but not mentally all there.

Also look up Ron Paul 1988 on youtube, not only is he saying the same things now and has been proven correct on so many things, but you also see that his passion and intensity in the fight for Constitutional liberties has has never been as strong as it is now. He sees the Revolution he's started, and it has kept the fire in him lit and that will continue to be true in the years to come. As I said, a younger VP like Napolitano, Johnson, Huntsman or even Romney would ease worries of old age, and Romney already said he'd support Paul if Paul got the nomination.

Do any of you know that the congress plays a baseball game every year, I think it's House vs Senate or some such nonsense. It's played in one of the local stadiums, Dr Paul is the only one in the history of the game to hit one out of the park.

I don't think his health is an issue.

Hes a texas rep. Thats changes everything. I'd never vote for anyone from texas again in mylife time. Then maybe he wants too much deregulation and you see what happen the last time Dubya deregulated. Some things need to stay up on the hill and he wants almost everything to go to the states, thats going to lose the balance in this country and cause problems. I just can't see everything he likes as being the solution and yet I do like some of the things he's for, even if he is a texas rep. Giving too much to the states can cause prejiduce states and wars between states. Prejiduce even as far as wages go and skin color along with so many problems he don't see happening. I don't know about him, I think I'm sticking to no texas reps in office, period.

You are wrong google gays for ron paul. He's a fair guy.

Do you really think , Ron Paul is a gay or a lesbian...??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0NqJFMAlg&feature=related

to Benny...didn't say he wasn't fair...but he's not being truthful about his positions (contrary to what many are saying).

http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/27/what-does-ron-paul-really-believe-about-gays/

go-getter

I say, even if he has changed his opinions, which happens,( I have different opinions from when I was twenty), of all the people I have ever seen in Washington, he is one that I would believe it coming from his own mouth.

Don't get me wrong, there are things I don't agree with such as his stance on abortion and the death penalty, but I think for the country, we can and have done much worse. I just like his fiscal policy.

john-737...

I'm hearing you. When you take all the pieces of "his positions" and put it all together...that's the part I have trouble with.

The way I look at it his positions are in conflict. You can't have freedom, but no freedom of choice. I don't think he would ever be able to repeal Roe v Wade especially with a relatively liberal Supreme court, so that doesn't concern me, I think it will still stay with the states.

As far as the death penalty goes, Mr Paul is all about States rights, so I don't see that changing either.

My agreement about his fiscal and foreign policy far outweighs my disagreements.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

We need some serious changes. They might seem radical but that's because we're diseased...just like the rabid animal fears water. We're sick and we need to be cured. It might hurt at first but it's for posterity's sake. I voted Obama in 2008 but I think Paul might be getting my vote this year.

It is possible to believe homosexuality is wrong and still believe in fair treatment under the law for gays. I say allow the abortion but make them pay for it themselves so that those that feel it is a sin aren't forced by law to pay for it. I believe that gays in committed relationships should not be prevented from having the same priveledges as others. Marriage in a church is a sacrament, marriage by a judge is a civil contract. If you work for or attend a religious school accept that you will have to live by the rules of that religion to continue your tenure. If you are not willing there are public institutions all around the country for you to attend/work at. No one should be forced by law to commit a sin.

You lie! You did not vote for Pres. Obama. Your post came from one of the Ron Paul campaign offices.

Fine. I'm lying. I'm also not in Afghanistan. I'm also not an independent who never claimed membership in any party. I also don't have a Veterans for Obama magnet on my fridge back home. Amazing power you possess to be able to discern such information with such conviction by looking at a few simple sentences. You might strike it big in reading tea leaves. Must be great being so gifted. Oh, and to prove my point, I'd be a fool if my job were to spam Newsvine with pro-Paul anecdotes but I prevented that from happening by getting myself banned for a day. So, let's disprove that:

GO FUUUUKKKKK YOURSELF.

"he is the only honest guy running."

In full agreement , I'll even put aside his wacky religious side and I despise religion.

http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/12/27/what-does-ron-paul-really-believe-about-gays/

go-getter
Reposting the same link to differing questions only makes you look lazy and what you post irrelevant.

@egil....the reposting of link was for benny (which started a new thread). Pay attention to the threads before making comments about one's ability to be relevant.

Yes, you can also sheck out his voting record and research some of the bills that he has introduced over the years. This is truly a good indicator of what the man stands for. However don't stop there check out all of their records and you will see a high level of consistancy with Dr. Paul as opposed to the other candidates.

When Obama was running and elected and people were referring to him as the new messiah, I said then that there was no man in this world who could live up to the public's expectations of what they thought he could do. No one. And I will be the first to admit - and have before, that he didn't exactly step into a clean slate. The man inherited a mess. But the thing is, his job was to follow through with what he promised, or at least make a solid effort on it, and while there was no way he could begin to fix everything, he also wasn't supposed to make it worse. McCain would have been no better, he just would have messed things up in a different direction.

You just don't get it do you? You say, "When states run out of money or don't make their budget then it is the overall responsbility on the Federal Gov to step in."

What you're talking about is entitlements. The govt does nothing, it cannot "produce" a product or provide a service like you're talking about, without getting the money and other resources to do so from somewhere else. That means the govt takes money from some Americans and giving it to others. Not only does the govt not have the CONSTITUTIONAL authority do so, but it's not a viable system.

Unlike a free market which drive down price and increases quality, a Federally mandated entitlement system favors monopolies and does the opposite. It drives up price and reduces quality of the product or service which in this case is basically a bailout for states who overspend. Of course that also ignores Paul's stance of not allowing the Feds to take money away from the states IN THE FIRST PLACE. That is the point of this subject you fail to understand unfortunately.

Don't underestimate the power of the veto. Ron Paul could easily set this country on the right track on his very first day in office by bringing all our troops home (saving hundreds of billions per year) which he can do unilaterly as commander in chief, and threatening to veto all unbalanced budgets putting the pressure on Congress to make some real cuts to our bloated programs.

He can't solve everything by himself, but he openly admits this all the time! It's going to take the country coming together to decide "what government aught to be" (his repeated quote) which is why he's been trying to educate everyone for over 30 years. The single greatest thing he could do as president is educate everyone about how the system works and how we got into this mess, so that we might begin to work our way out. He has already done this to a great degree with the federal reserve.

Elementary economics being spouted here. Still nothing to see in Ron Paul except extremism. Vote for RP and vote for a big depression.

What has Obama done that has lead you to believe that he wants to change this country for the better?

@IMHO-2730490 Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate with a plan to balance the budget in one term. No one else even comes close. I promise you that if any other candidate is elected, we will be in much deeper debt, bankrupt (dollar devalued by 40%) or under one world currency before the end of their first term.

If O'bama can get a second term, he will have achieved what he has set out to prove to the world, that America is terminally stupid.

Since Congress can only vote appropiations, and the president is the one who actually disburses the funds, he can do a lot more without Congress than you might think. he can for example de-fund whole departments of the government with the stroke of a pen, and all Congress can do is jump up and down and whine. He would need the help of congress to repeal the underlying statutes, but the president is the one in control of the actual spending in the administrative branch, not congress.

When the president says he wants to shut down one section of an agency and transfer it's functions to another section, that is completely within his power as the chief executive, not even the SCOTUS can stop him.

Just because past presidents like spending more and more and creating more and more agencies, there has always been the possibility for a president to emerge that likes the opposite.

Dr Paul can do his 1 trillion in the first year without the interference of Congress, his second pledge to balance the budget in three years will need the help of Congress. If he does carry through with the first, Congress will be VERY hard pressed to not help him with the second, if they want to keep their jobs.

AS far as the Fed, he can detach the fed from the treasury with nothing more simple than an executive order. The Treasury is under the control of the president and the executive branch, it is controlled by the FED only because each succeeding president has allowed and approved it. There is no law requiring it, such a law would be unconstitutional on it's face. All it requires is a president with the balls to actually do it. We all know what happened to the last two presidents soon after they hinted on that being a good thing, Kennedy and Reagan. (they both had very unhappy encounters with flying bullets)

The people who think cutting spending will result in a depression need to read up on Keynesian and Austrian economics. We cut spending after WWII by over 60% and brought home/injected over 10,000,000 troops into the workforce and the following years were some of the best economic times in our history. The Keynesian economists at the time literally suggested that we should keep building tanks for a war that was over or we might face a depression by cutting spending... and yet the exact opposite happened when we made the cuts.

Aren't you ignoring that the rest of the world was in a shambles!?!? We had free rein to export whatever we manufactured to people all around the globe who were starving for whatever we could provide for them. Demand was high, domestically and globally. Why would we need stimulus from the government? We had a virtual monopoly on everything global.

they may not fix it over night, but remember it took Reagan 2 years to start to fix the mess Carter got us into. Berry the community organizer in Chief is worst than Carter.

Heidi Obama is NOT a Democrat he is a Marxist....and most likley a Muslim as well. WHat do you hate about your country so much that you will vote for him...again? Do you need a government check to live on? You vote for your check...not for your country when you vote for Obama. Your chaeck is going away ...but you can help to save your Country.

VOTE RON PAUL 2012

VOTE RON PAUL 2012

"allowing states to make decisions on public services such as unemployment, health care etc.."

bad mistake. The states screw it up all the time then the Feds have to bail their butts out, wasting time and money as usual. And the lousy states like TX and AZ are still ungrateful...

Just take a look at history... (real history that is, not TP brand history!)

i don't know. i think you need to answer your own question before asking it. what is his track record?

Ran for office, well that'd be a DOZEN. He has won all 12 bids for Congress. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice, before returning in 1997. That 11 more times being elected than Obama was. You may want to educate yourself before spouting off ignorant comments that make you sound like a fool.

The fact is Ron Paul the ONLY vote that can beat Obama, pulling votes from dissatisfied Dems, the growing Independent population, and a growing portion of the Republicans. A vote for Paul is the ONLY vote for peace, prosperity and liberty.

That's funny, because the most revered president in the country's history, Abraham Lincoln (google it) had more failures in his life than just about anyone.

I suppose your motto is "if at first you don't succeed, quit and never try again!" ?!?

Wow! Are you saying RP is just like Abraham Lincoln. LMAO

This is Ron Paul's third run at the presidency. It took Reagan three tries to get elected too. The media also called Reagan "unelectable".

IMHO, Ron Paul actually hung out with Lincoln. He's simply too old to garner my vote.

Really , he seems to be on a roll lately.....

That's why he fits in so nicely with the other contenders.

Sorry VWTerry, your link is bunk garbage. Not supporting equal rights for minorities? I didn't even read past that. It only take 5 minutes and a modicum of effort to search youtube and find the video below. Don't allow yourself to wallow in ignorance:

Monty--You reference a "video below" but provide no link. Please do so. Candidly, the site vwterry cites appears to use real, fact-based evidence. You may not like what you read, but it certainly has the sources.

Thanks for the reminder OldVet. MSNBC is censoring the direct youtube link. Just search for Ron Paul on youtube, or for claims of racism, try "ron paul racist". Heres the top watched video for that:

Monty--Again, no link. I can tell you my awkward way of putting one in if you'd like (although others may know of a much easier way). I Googled "Ron Paul Racism" and came up with this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080834/New-Ron-Paul-video-attempts-paper-racist-news-letters-advert-showing-aiding-African-American.html?ito=feeds-newsxml. That may not be what you're looking for.

Yeah, MSNBC took the link down. It's not Google though. It's Youtube you need. Search youtube for "ron paul racist" and the first 3 links are Paul himself talking, clips from different interviews, but always the same individual liberty message.

Monty--I did as instructed. Came up with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de_CSuJCsfY. Also came up with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw. MSNBC doesn't seem to censor these links.

Two videos on youtube will cover it. "

"The Compassion of Dr. Ron Paul" and
"Do Black Americans Believe Ron Paul Is Racist?

MSNBC censors link to new visitors for a period of time. I got a notice the other day that now I can post links. I think it has something to do with their spam filter. Or it could be that people could be hitting the spam button because you wrote something they didn't agree with. It has happened to me.

Yes, OldVet, the 2nd link is what I'm talking about. Also search youtube for " ron paul racist rant " and watch the first link, which is from a user named "withmyfeetupon".

Romney looks absolutely desperate. He'll say ANYTHING to get your vote.

SunnysideUPP; I was thinking Romney looked like a kid in a candy store trying to buy everything!

Ron Paul really is unelectable!

Santorum, is a toss up, and with this Iran situation, among many other situations going on, the recovery, etc. it looks like the, country will elect President Obama in for a second term, IF THAT IS THE CASE WE NEED TO GIVE HIM A CONGRESS THAT WILL WORK WITH HIM TO GET THINGS GOING!!!

Monty,

The site I used has nothing to do with the House Bills Dr. Paul supported. It was just the easiest way to show his voting record. His votes are public information. Using youtube to counter a congressional voting record is pretty sad. I've used youtube for entertainment and am sure that if you look around enough you could find a video that shows just about anything you want to support your views, in fact it appears you have done just that. Wallow all you want, I'll stick with the record.