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Subscribe to RSSWith just four days left until the Jan. 3 caucuses, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are running neck and neck, with Romney at 23 percent among likely caucus-goers and Paul at 21 percent, according to an NBC/Marist poll. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- In an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd this week, Newt Gingrich said he did not need to win nominating contests in Iowa or New Hampshire as long as he won South Carolina.
“You have to be in the top three or four,” said Gingrich. “I would like to come in second in New Hampshire.” But, he continued, “You need to win South Carolina. Everyone who has won South Carolina has been the nominee."
And while Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond seemed to downplay that prediction, saying “no state is a must-win,” a memo obtained by Real Clear Politics today belies that sentiment.
The memo, written by new members of his Iowa team, said Gingrich is positioned to “perform consistently well in both Iowa and New Hampshire and then win in South Carolina and Florida.”
While every eventual Republican nominee since 1980 has in fact won South Carolina's primary, Gingrich is seeking to accomplish what no other candidate in the 30-year history of modern primaries has: a South Carolina victory after losses in the first two states.
Every longshot presidential candidate comes to Iowa hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Most never come close, but GOP hopeful Rick Santorum hopes he can buck the odds. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
The former House speaker stands in fifth place in Iowa, according to the NBC/Marist Iowa poll released Friday. And some Palmetto State Republicans doubt that Gingrich would be able to achieve victory here after losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, even in spite of the fluidity of the Republican field.
“No one has gone 0-for-2 and won South Carolina,” said Warren Tompkins, a longtime strategist here who worked on Mitt Romney’s 2008 campaign and today announced he would be advising the campaign on a volunteer basis.
One factor is the boost in fundraising and buzz brought on by an Iowa or New Hampshire victory. If Gingrich doesn’t have that momentum coming in to South Carolina, the path to a win for Mitt Romney here becomes clearer, some experts say.
Hammond countered: "The must-win is the nomination."
PUTTING IT ALL ON PALMETTO
Past candidates who downplay early states have done so at their peril, noted former South Carolina Republican Party chairwoman Karen Floyd, citing Rudy Giuliani’s Florida-centric bid in 2008 and Romney’s decision that year to pull out of South Carolina after New Hampshire.
“When they decided not to play in some of the carve-out states, they lost the earned media,” she said.
That earned media – cable chatter, word-of-mouth, online buzz -- could compensate somewhat for Gingrich’s inability to match his opponents’ big ad buys. A lack of that energy, however, could be problematic in South Carolina, a state driven more by media than retail politics.
“It’s not like suddenly he’s going to be able to spend a ton on TV ads,” said one unaligned national consultant who worked for Romney’s 2008 campaign and is familiar with South Carolina politics.
Gingrich’s top-four threshold might not be enough to quell a perception that he’s running out of steam, said Jim Dyke, a South Carolina-based national strategist.
“I think if he does not do very well -- one or two -- in Iowa, he’s going to have a further sinking, which is going to make it more difficult in New Hampshire and it’s going to make it extremely difficult in South Carolina," Dyke said.
But Clemson political science professor and Republican consultant David Woodard said he would not count Gingrich out here, saying he’s been impressed with the former speaker’s “unconventional” presence.
“He is working something that the others aren’t doing and it’s primarily this social media kind of thing,” he said, noting the volume of emails and Facebook bulletins he receives from Gingrich supporters (Woodard added the Bachmann campaign is also reaching him through social media).
S.C. FOR THE MASSACHUSETTS MORMON?
While Romney’s campaign has been setting low Iowa expectations for months, he is now leading some polls there, including the NBC/Marist poll, which showed him at 23 percent. He is garnering larger, more enthusiastic crowds than his campaign said they had anticipated.
That atmosphere is leading some observers in South Carolina to say he could ride a stronger-than-expected showing in Iowa, plus a New Hampshire win, to a victory here.
“They have done a masterful job of managing expectations,” Dyke said, adding that an outright win in Iowa “would really solidify the argument that he’s the candidate who can win everywhere.”
That argument could be strengthened if Romney wins socially conservative South Carolina, some of whose voters balked at his Mormonism in 2008, according to the national consultant who worked on Romney’s campaign that year.
“You’re the Mormon from Massachusetts who flip flopped on social issues who just won in South Carolina. It beats the expectations. No one would expect it," the consultant said.
Dyke drew a parallel between Romney and 2008 nominee John McCain, whose record did not jibe perfectly with voters here but who eked out a 33 percent victory over Mike Huckabee, who took most of the Evangelical vote.
“[McCain’s] record wasn’t necessarily tailor made for this state, whether it was immigration or judges, but there was a recognition that he was the best candidate for the fall,” Dyke said.
Even if Romney doesn’t win in Iowa, he still has the ability to sustain his campaign without an Iowa fundraising boost.
“These other guys have to win states in order to stay alive,” the consultant said. “Mitt Romney doesn’t have to run a marathon, he just has to make sure that his terminal disease isn’t as fast as the other guys.”
Plus, Romney can invest in South Carolina’s relatively inexpensive media markets (he made a $230,000 broadcast ad buy here on Thursday) while simultaneously buying some of Florida’s much pricier airtime, the national consultant said.
“Florida is a must-win. And South Carolina is the perfect setup for it. Last time, they got cold feet [in South Carolina] and pulled the plug and they probably saved about half a million dollars. In the overall scheme of what that campaign spent, they spent more than that on rock climbing walls for the Iowa straw poll.”
While the Romney campaign isn’t investing in as much gym equipment this time around, they do have a low-key, but persistent, presence in South Carolina. In addition to holding a tele-town hall with voters here on Monday, Romney has a robo call, which Floyd received, in which he says he intends to “earn the trust of every person in the state of South Carolina,” according to Floyd.
Plus, in addition to Tompkins, Romney also signed on Luke Byars as an unpaid adviser – adding bulk to his three-person South Carolina team.
Romney’s sotto voce presence here, gradually crescendoing, could lay the groundwork for a Romney win in South Carolina -- but the persistence of a few other candidates past Iowa could complicate that calculus.
THE LONG SHOT AND THE WILD CARD
Rick Santorum’s recent Iowa surge (he’s in third at 15 percent in the NBC poll) has some observers here drawing comparisons to Mike Huckabee. the former Arkansas governor who campaigned, like Santorum, mostly on social issues. After winning in Iowa, Huckabee narrowly lost to McCain in South Carolina with 30 percent of the vote.
“I think Santorum could be the next Huckabee, I really do,” Woodard said, adding that the difference between 2008 and now is that “neither of the two frontrunners are a McCain. Neither Gingrich nor Romney have inspired the kind of loyalty that McCain could.”
But Dyke dismissed the Huckabee parallel, saying that Huckabee’s background as a pastor gave him a stronger connection to evangelical communities than Santorum has. “It’s just apples and oranges,” he said.
One candidate who could become a thorn in the side of any candidate in South Carolina is Ron Paul, who is expected to do well in Iowa (he's in second, with 21 percent, in the NBC/Marist Iowa poll) and has some support here (he took 8 percent of likely Republican voters in the most recent NBC/Marist poll here, third behind Gingrich and Romney).
Paul today also received the endorsement of former South Carolina treasurer Thomas Ravenel, who resigned after being indicted on a federal cocaine charge. In a Facebook post, Ravenel praised Paul’s position against drug prohibition.
Paul’s organization in South Carolina is not as robust as in Iowa -- and that's not even to mention that Paul does better in a caucus setting than a primary -- but his presence here is enough to vex any candidate looking to make South Carolina, where the 2008 nominee won by just a three-point margin, a firewall.
“It will be at least a three-way race, and Ron Paul’s not getting out. So it’s not like it’s as clean and clear as I think Speaker Gingrich is articulating it,” said Tompkins. But a Ron Paul victory in Iowa could be a rallying point for South Carolina voters lukewarm towards Romney, the national consultant said.
“If Ron Paul comes in first, then all of a sudden there’s a scary bogey man we’ve all got to rally around – look, Mitt might not be our guy but we can’t let it be Ron Paul.” Regardless of the various scenarios that pundits will no doubt be gaming out between now and the South Carolina primary, one fact remains certain: a win here, preceded by losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, would be a first in South Carolina’s 30-year history of picking Republican nominees.
NBC's Alex Moe contributed
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Newt has to stay away from book signings and Chocolate Factories if he wants to make a dent.
How did this article turn into a Ron Paul bash fest? Now he is a "boogey man" and "We can't let him win".
Looks like the Old Republicans are getting scared.
The article doesn't become a Ron Paul bash fest by any stretch of the imagination, it's a quote from a republican that calls him a "scary bogey man". Most of America, aside from his band of loyal followers, know him as a naive, overly grumpy and not particularly bright, but ultimately harmless, old man.
He isn't grumpy. Did you see him on Leno? He was great.
Yeah, but any time a reporter asks him a question that he doesn't like, or tries to get him to explain any details about his naive platitudes, he gets very grumpy. Basically, he doesn't like to be challenged at all, and is very happy to stick with his band of sycophants, who blindly believe whatever he says.
He is far more interesting than the average republican, but I do think that Texas political discourse was far more entertaining when democrats ran the show down there.
What? haha. The guy is a doctor. I'm quite sure he is bright. You may not like his manorisms, and you may vote based on that. That must make you bright
can someone tell me what a "gantlet" has to do with this, as opposed to a gauntlet ?
headline:
The scary bogey man is an O'bama reference for sure
Ron Paul's "small" band of followers now exceeds over 20% of both the Iowa and New Hampshire likely voters (the early two states where people take a real deep look at the candidates).
Doesn't seem so insignificant to me.
He is a Doctor who has been in the armed forces Jon, something tells me he is far brighter than you with a lot more life experience. As for grumpiness and unwillingness to answer questions, sounds like your man Newt.
What is scarier, a person who has not changed his message and cannot be bought off, or a party line stooge that changes their position based on the political office they are running for and is owned by the same parties that got us into this mess?
If you thought option one, you have two options Paul or Santorum. Personally I'll take the one that doesn't want a theocracy. Paul 2012
Xavier, You have it right! Ron Paul is finally getting heard thanks to forums, blogs and other types of free media. Isn't it funny how the msm jumps from one candidate to the next all the while trying to ignore Dr Paul. He just keeps on going, spreading the word of freedom, liberty and personal responsibility. Keeping within the restraints of our Constitution as is was suppose to be. Our founders knew that all men and women are corruptible and built a document to reflect that. God Bless America and Dr. Ron Paul.
Paul is up to 20% in the polls because he's currently enjoying his turn at getting the support of the meandering Tea Party lost sheep, anyone but Romney, crowd. His turn, of course, coming after Palin, Trump, Bachman, Perry, Cain, and Gingrich. Too bad that he has to share his turn with Rick Santorum. He'll be down a bit next week. His ceiling is 25% of the maybe 35% of voters who vote in Republican primaries and caucuses.
Ron Paul is going nowhere, as he should. I hope that he sticks around for a bit. His whining voice is a nice relief from the smugness of Romney and the pontificating of Gingrich in those debates.
Gantlet!? In the headline!? Is there an editor in the house? Can anyone spell? The word is gauntlet. Who cares?!
Blind adherence to Libertarian doctrine is no different than theocracy. Both fail in the real world. Theocracy fails because an imaginary god doesn't really take care of us. Libertarianism fails because it assumes everyone will always do the moral thing, and in capitalism that is almost never the case.
"You may not like his manorisms"
Actually, I don't think that he was "born to the manor", and wouldn't care even if he was. I don't vote for Ron Paul because his ideas would have the US become a third world country, completely polluted and with even an even bigger divide between haves and have nots than we do now. And that divide is our biggest problem. I'm not saying everyone shouldn't work for what they get, I'm saying that the rich few are paid far more than they actually work for.
He may be smart enough to be a good doctor and if my wife were having a baby, I'd be happy to see him, but he does not have any intelligence when it comes to economics or how to run a country. On those kinds of things he's a whiny, grumpy old man, bereft of ideas, and slavishly following the doctrines of 1930s style Libertarianism, or classical Liberalism if you prefer that term.
Theocracies fail because of oppression and a lack of freedom, not because there is or isn't a god, and blind adherence to any political ideology is stupid, almost as stupid as voting in party line politicians of either party. If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that Paul does not adhere "blindly" to a libertarian doctrine. He believes in rule of law that is based in the constitution, is that so bad? It just so happens that our founders had libertarian values as well.
As opposed to a collapsed country, with 16 trillion in debt and counting? Exactly how does ending the endless occupations with an emphasis on self reliance send us in the wrong direction? We have lost manufacturing. We have lost entire segments of our workforce due to illegal immigration. What do you find appealing about our current direction?
What do you propose to do about this? Are you a socialist?
As opposed to a mid-40's community organizer? Please give me an intelligent answer as to what makes O'bama so much more qualified?
Jon-1321288 seems to be 1 of those 'bought and paid' msm type commies that love to say things like 'NAZI' and 'EVIL RACIST HATER' just to get everyone off the topic that we the people actually have a canidate that holds real american values instead of dollars and benefits. i have no idea where jon lives but everywhere i have lived in or visited in this country 3rd world is an understatement. some places are 5th world ,and NO WORLD.
Did MSNBC mean that they were going to face a gauntlet in South Carolina, or is there a new Republican candidate we haven't heard about? "Charles Gantlet, a businessman who was unknown until just a few hours ago, is now leading in the Iowa polls..." (chuckle)
A “gantlet” is a flogging ordeal, literally or figuratively. A person may run a gantlet. A “gauntlet” is a glove. To throw down the gauntlet means to ...
Get a dictionary those of you who question the headline which is correct.
essage to
All these Republicans are hoping their name will be on top when it comes to the final tally. And so what if it is? All the peaks and valleys tell us one thing - nobody likes any of you, and the only thing making these numbers go up and down so dramatically is the boiling bubbles in the stew you're all cooking yourselves in.
The Republican philosophy these days must be something like this: It's like hitting yourself in the head with a board: it feels sooooo good when you stop.
You seem to be slightly deluded yourself. I know its sort of fashionable to talk out of ignorance in our society where people can't spell simple words like gauntlet. However, your claims of Ron Paul being naive is just wacko. We all know, or at least those of us know who bother to look at positions, that Ron Paul predicted the economic collapse: http://youtu.be/04B3Wl2qouw
I would say the naive people are the people that sat around saying everything was fine while our economic house burned to the ground.
According to jon, Ron Paul can't pass 35 %, well if it was him and Obama the actual polls show he would run neck to neck with Obama. Plus Ron Paul has more independent and democratic support then any of the others which would actually make him a little more likely to win.
Being naive is parroting what you are spoon fed without knowing the facts. Perhaps you should go over to RonPaul.com and see what the man would do as President. Because unlike Barack Obama that said he wasn't George Bush while promising change before getting elected, Ron Paul will actually change things. It is that certainty of change that has parasitic politicians, establishment media, lobbyist and corporations living of the teat of corporate welfare scared.
yes, and it shows very clearly
and there is no such thing as "5th world"
clearly you haven't lived or even traveled anywhere else
Ron Paul is off the wall!
Ron Paul for Geritol!
Paranoya strikes deep,into Paulers life it will creep.
It starts when your always afraid, step out of line the man come and take you away!
Its time you stop. Paulers whats that sound? Everyone looks whats going down.
Nukes for Iran, Heroine for all, just vote for Ron Paul! We dont need no stinking regulations.lol
Nice try, breadex. Try googling "Run the gantlet" and see what you come up with. Get back to us on that will you? An acceptable spelling is gantlet, which is still pronounced "gauntlet" - but if you search for "run the gantlet" you'll be re-directed to "run the gauntlet".
Perhaps MSNBC could have avoided this whole sticky mess if the headline had simply read something more akin to...
South Carolina Preparing to Skullf**k Iowa and New Hampshire Winners
It's a holiday weekend. Nobody's reading this crap anyway.
SC awaits Iowa and New Hampshire "Losers" ( "Tea ReTard Clowns" )
Why can't all you Ron Paul supporters take a little criticism of him? Are you the ones afraid that America will figure out that he is nothing but a neo nazi with insane ideas that he could never pass through congress, including legalizing drugs, and since he doesn't seem to want the commander in chief role and doesn't plan to do anything. He will be the biggest loser of a president to ever exist. He is already considered the most ineffective person in the house because he can never get anything on his agenda passed, he simply votes.
The DNC is waiting to eat the man alive on his past and the things I found doing enough digging on the web, is plenty of food for them to use. Old interviews of his insane ramblings, quite entertaining though. So I am sure that the democrats are hoping he will get the nomination.
Q: Sometimes I see “gantlet” and sometimes I see “gauntlet.” Which one is correct?
A: The old “gantlet/gauntlet” distinction is rapidly being lost, since dictionaries these days are increasingly regarding them as interchangeable.
“Gantlet” originally came from a Swedish word similar to “lane,” and referred to the parallel lines involved in an old form of military punishment. Someone forced to “run the gantlet” was made to run between parallel lines of his colleagues, who would hit him with clubs or switches as he passed.
A “gauntlet” (French word) was a heavy, armored glove worn by a knight. As a challenge to fight, the knight would toss his glove to the ground (“throw down the gauntlet”). The opponent accepting the challenge was said to “pick up the gauntlet.” From grammarphobia
@ Coral Taxi: Very creative use of Buffalo Springfield's "For What it's Worth". 1969 and 2012 have a lot in common. You should heed the words in that song. The national debt is going to bring us all down. People are sick and tired of the same crap in 1969 as in 2012. WAR! What is it good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Now say it again...
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
@ give it a rest; Yes I have been thinking lately how relevant that song is to today,with the OWS, THE Arab springs,now one cropping up in Russia.
My point is that Ron Paul has some radical views,a little to radical for my taste as far as becoming commander in chief,and having his finger on the button.I am not a Paul hater Im sure he is a nice guy,just a bit old, and radical for my taste,to be president,you seen what I mean the other day.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! to you also, now give it a rest!
Ha just kidding.
When is someone going to ask Romney if he actually believes that Joseph Smith character received thems "Golden Plates" from an angel named "Moroni"? I'd love to hear the answer to this one, because if people out there still believe Obama is a Muslim, I wonder what they're going to think about Romney when they find out he doesn't need the Secret Service, because he dons the Magic Underoo's!
@CoralTaxi Here is a "For What it's Worth" video for you. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
http://youtu.be/nDQmYpG2EL8
hey momus, the golden plates aren't any more ridiculous than a guy that walks on water, or a earth that's 6000 years old
@ give it a rest; Guess I was spot on there. Thanx. I am not coming from a place of Hate,just common sense. Having a little fun over Pauls comments,but I am all for freedom,and against the corporate machine. Just not for alot of his stances that could jeopardize our safety.
What's so special about South Carolina?
Ok, I guess I should read the article before I comment :)
Amy -
Go ahead, but I think you were right on the earlier thread when you said this is getting boring. I'm starting to feel that mind-numbingness you get when the tv sports guys start fishing for statistics like how no team has ever won the championship after being down by more than 22 points in the third quarter in three or more games against teams with a left-handed quarterback on their home field when there's a full moon on days ending in "y". Enough already. There's a three-day weekend about to start and mine is not going to include one minute's thought about elections.
Anyone else?
What's so special about South Carolina?
It's the only state with a totally Islamic state flag ---- A crescent & Palm Tree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg
What's so special about South Carolina?
Their low country boil!!!! YUMMY
The problem with South Carolina is it is too far north
South Carolina is important this year because it will be the first, true, litmus test of what I have been calling one of Romney's "stealth" negatives. It has been predicted by several people that the hard-core, evangelical, south could give Romney the cold shoulder. Since the old south is one of the prime GOP voting blocks a luke-warm reception there could be an strong indication of things to come in the general election.
In this year of the 150th anniversary of the American Civil War it's important to remember South Carolina's historic significance. In 1860 when the Democrat party split into two separate parties over the issue of slavery, the Southern, pro-slavery Democrats had their national nominating convention in Charleston, Sough Carolina.
South Carolina militia was the first to fire on the American flag with the shelling of Fort Sumpter and South Carolina was the first state to secede from the Union. Just a little over 150 years ago.
Whether you have any interest in history or it's possible importance to current events you must consider the "Mormon" question and how that may affect the vote in the deep south. It could be significant.
Remember, polling has consistently shown that the American people feel very strongly that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a cult, like Scientology. Many main line Christian sects believe the Mormon church constitutes a "heresy".
We'll just have to wait and see how the Southern Baptists feel about Mitt.
I would not be surprised to see Romney come in second in South Carolina and Paul or Gingrich come in first. But this year I wouldn't put any money on either of those two getting the GOP nomination no matter which way South Carolina goes.
I believe Romney will be the nominee, Pawlenty will be his running mate and Barack Obama will be re-elected in an historic landslide. Hide and watch.
Obama/Biden 2012
Im beginning to think that might provide more humor for the next 4 years. As long as you are not so rich that the gimme faeries see you as income, but you have enough assets to survive what Mr. Obama's administration will reign down on us. We have not observed anything yet!
Amy and others,
South Carolina has a lot of 99%er, yet the state is solid red. They currently have 10% unemployment with some rural counties at 20%. Whe the housing bubble burst, their large construction boom died. The textile mills used to drive their econmoy but that was decades ago.
Let's see what Romney will say to them beyond blaming obama for everything.
It's gauntlet.
"Gantlet" is a variant but seldom used spelling of the much more common "gauntlet." But, given that MSNBC likes to use seldom used variants (e.g., tremblor for tremor), then that's what we should expect I guess. Maybe they just use it do draw attention to the story.
What's so special about South Carolina? It's the people! Sooooo special.
My question is this if SC is so important how do you as a candidate miss the fact you have to qualify to run there then tell people how important it is after you toss away a huge lead in Iowa. Sc isimportant to see who gets the southern evangelical nod nothing more. The state is not a true representation of America
Amy - it is one of goofy make news things like no candidate has won the presidency without winning Ohio things. It's a current trend and not a sure thing.
Amy
Nothing special, here we go again another bunch of rednecks trying to influence a nomination. Have a hard time why anyone would even care what Iowa, N. Hampshire, or S. Carolina votes in any election. Not relevant.
Emil
Tea-ReTards are a new form of the KKK Supremacists "Haters" The gate to Hell.
@Chip - NO!!! It's gantlet. A gauntlet is a glove. A gantlet is parallel lines of floggers that the intended punished have to pass through, sometimes called "running the gantlet". Used by navies to involve the entire crew in punishing a particular crew-person, an important aspect of maintaining discipline when the punished has done something serious that adversely affects the entire crew. Its use here is figurative for the challenges faced by a candidate. As for gauntlet, it is a glove with a long protective sleeve going up from the wrist towards the elbow. Often used in combat, particularly sword combat, to protect the lower arm from slicing or slashing wounds. Thrown down by one individual in front of another individual to challenge the other to a duel. Picking up the thrown gauntlet was explicit acceptance of the challenge. Can be used figuratively too as gauntlets thrown by or between candidates, but is definitely not the usage here, so gantlet is the correct term and spelling.
Can't let the scary bogeyman win the Republican nomination!
What's fun about all the national surveys is that they are done by land lines and Ron Paul has a huge following amoung voters least likely to have land lines, voters 18-35. He also does well amoung veterans and military members. If he starts to pick up more of those over 65, Mitt Romney will be in real trouble.
Ron Paul may not be as good looking as Mitt Romney. He may not have as much money. However, you know his position and can be sure it aint gonna change with the wind.
Ron Paul as the GOP nominee would be just enough to chase all of the true nut cases away from the GOP and force them to form their own Teavangelical Party.
so true, I'm anxious to see how it all plays out. I don't think Paul will win, I still think it will eventually be Romney but I think Paul will have a larger showing than the establishment wants to admit. I would prefer him over most of the candidates, but he does scare me a bit with some of his radical ideas.. However, I also know that's what congress is for, to stop the Presdient from going too extreme.
LA99999, Why is freedom liberty and personal resposibility radical? Why should the Federal Gov't have the power to write laws and force them on the states? How can anyone believe anything coming out of Washington is the truth? Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, nope nothing there. 10 years to find Bin Laden and suddenly turns up in Pakastan. We need to do something about North Korea, oh and also Iran and Libyia, and Egypt, and Syria. We have the largest military in the world, if anyone thinks that one of these dink countries can attack us and win you have been drinking to much Washington koolaid. One thing you do have right is Dr. Paul would go to congress before going to war just as it should be.
Jackson - obviously we carry the same name however - what about Obama who did not go to war but got rid of Quaddaffi - who was killing his citizens - who did not go to war but killed Osama Bin Laden - who did not go to war but gave an amazing speech that brought on the the Arab Spring - Who once said that "words are mightier than the sword" And this President has proved it
Right, Barbara. I am all for spreading peace. But my concern with Mr. Paul is that he would be too hesitant to use force if necessary. We need a President that would use war as a last resort, but knows when it is necessary. We need to cut our military down by quite a lot, but how much would Paul cut it? That's my concern. That's where President Obama has been strongest, he has a good sense of when and where to have a military force.
I am also concerned about cutting the government too much. I agree with putting power back to the states where it belongs. I also agree the federal government needs to get out of the bribery business (ie: if you don't raise your drinking limits we ill not give you the funding you want). However, I am concerned that Mr Paul would cut too much. It would almost be a comfort to know that congress is there to slow him down a bit, and that's a really scary thought...to rely on congress.
75% of the military personnell SUPPORT Ron Paul and his foriegn policy.
The people who actually fight say that he is right about what he says.
What's wrong with spending the money at home? Why spend billions pissing off Russia by building a missle defense shield around the rest of europe when our roads and our schools are in such awful shape?
Didn't we hear the same thing 4 years ago from Rudy Giuliani? He played the "One State Strategy" with Florida and ended up spending $50M for 1 delegate.
Anyway, a win by Gingrich in South Carolina would be as meaningful as a win for Romney in New Hampshire. Yes, I'm sure it's nice to win the early contests but we're talking about candidates playing in their own back yards. The shock would be if Gingrich DOESN'T win South Carolina.
Noid -
Speaking of playing in their own back yards, how's Gingrich doing with that whole Virginia thing?
Oh, wait - I just said up above that I was swearing off politics for the rest of the weekend. Pretend I didn't ask that!
No worries, JoAnne, we're all on automatic pilot after following this dumbest Republican primary season in history...Palin's movie, Donald Trump's birther nonsense, Huntsman's stunt motorcyclist, Hermain Caine's sexcapdes, no one likes Romney, Perry's racist slur on a rock, Bachmann's John Wayne/Gacy mixup, Santorum surging from behind, Gingrich's ahead, whoops, no he's not....I'd be embarrassed, if I were a Republican.
Amy, I must have slept through some of it. What's this about Huntsman's stunt motorcyclist and Bachmann's mix-up? And, in the case of Bachmann, are you sure it was a mix-up and not one of her many lies?
I think Perry is the most dangerous person running. He could do real harm to the country.
No one would be stupid enough to vote for poorly educated cheer-leading inarticulate Texan governor.... again.
I think Obama is the most dangerous person running, and he HAS done damage to this country.
ABO 2012
2nd that about Obama. Yikes! Hard to believe anyone could be worse than both Bush I and Bush II. But, he's proven it. Heck, he makes Carter look good.
Why haven't any Vinnies picked fun at the headline of the article? "Gantlet?" How about "Gauntlet?" NBC and all its various entities employ such bright people.
Right,
Perry,no waitBachmann, no waitNewt, no wait Santorum is the most dangerous person running. Take your pick, they are all dangerous.I did, but you beat me to it :D
I'm trying to figure out what train tracks have to do with the SC primary, impending train wreck maybe?
Either spelling is correct. Some people need to expand their vocabulary.
You used the Internet to post here. Use it to learn about the word before saying it's wrong.
I agree with NYMike regarding research before posting. Beyond that and I mean no disrespect to you NYMike, there is a difference between gantlet and gauntlet. I dug a bit deeper in the effort to find what I hope will put to rest the debate regarding the definition and validity of the word gantlet. I quote:
Gantlet vs. gauntlet
Writers have been mistakenly using gauntlet in place of gantlet for so long that most dictionaries have simply given up on trying to preserve the latter word. But careful English users still distinguish between the two.
gantlet
Gantlet means a form of punishment in which people armed with sticks or other weapons arrange themselves in two lines and beat a person forced to run between them. It comes from the earlier English word gantlope, which in turn comes from the Swedish gatlopp.
Gantlet is the appropriate word in the phrase run the gantlet, meaning to suffer punishment by gantlet or to endure an onslaught or ordeal.
gauntlet
Gauntlet means a protective glove worn with medieval armor. It comes from the Old French gantelet, a diminutive of gant, meaning glove. To throw down the gauntlet is to openly issue a challenge.
The headline is correct as written.
South Carolina,,, The only state with a totally Islamic state flag ---- A crescent & Palm Tree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg
Thanks for the info, Jim, my, that is special!
Glad you liked it.... Virginia (our totally homophobic state) state flag is a bull dyke standing over a man she slayed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Virginia.svg
Like I've been saying all along, the problem with the south is it is too far north... It shouldn't be in this hemisphere,,,, it disturbs the natural order of things
That gorget and palmetto cause a lot of Taliban to hold their fire for long enough because that was painted on a lot of the SC Army National Guard Trucks in Afghanistan.
Jim - your point is conicidental and irrellevent. But, like anything else, keep bringing it up and maybe something will come out of it.
Plus the color sky blue like the Somalian flag!!!
Heard an interesting analogy today. Basically, when you're picked because you're the last person standing, it does not mean you were picked because you were the best. In a field of very flawed candidates, the Republican/TP Inc. party is going to be stuck with 'the last one standing', and that does not mean that this person will even be close to the best. The best that the Republican party has to offer isn't even running, all they have are Republican/TP Inc. candidates, and that is a sad commentary on what has happened to the Republican Party.
When republicans do things they do things in a big way... Lots of balloons & explosions
When they fail,,, They fail in a big way
Every effort for them to return to the Reagan center is met with big failure --- They've gone too far right to come back
You guys prove my point that this is just going to the damn funniest election ever. Not because of the of the candidates, but because of the supporters.
Probably the best man running (Huntsman) doesn't get any kind of attention, because he refused to sign the Norquist pledge. I don't know enough about him because he doesn't get any media, but I would consider him. Any of the others, except maybe Paul, and I don't even consider voting Republican. It's a shame too, because I've seen so many posts say the same thing.
I would like to see everyone who votes in the primaries, if you don't have someone you really like, please consider voting for Huntsman.
The Norquist pledge means nothing to the Republican voters.n They are pro-drilling anyhow. The only people who consider that important are people who wouldn't vote for a republican anyhow.
Ron Paul will win South Carolina if he sticks to his guns! I'm just saying, Romney isn't racist enough and Newt isn't credible enough. After the debacle with the cheating governor, I don't think many GOP South Carolinian's have much patience for embarrassing philanderer's. Perry, well they may be racist in South Carolina, but they still know stupid when they see it.
Ron Paul,,,, The "incumbent" Rip Van Winkle of "Big Government" ..... LOL, he's done nothing but sleep for 35 years
Yes, so "racist" we elected a minority female Governor.
Heh...g0dd@mned yankee!
Momus2009 - you owe South Carolina a big apolgy for a prejudiced, racist smear. Calling people racist without any proof of racism other than geological location is shows a very closed minded prejudice AND is practicing a new kind of political racism. Democrats, Liberals, and Progressives have practiced this long enough. Since they are the ones who don't know when to stop, they need dumped out of any office.
Very well put DB Akron. I have witnessed those who scream racism are usually the biggest racists of all. Put it to rest Momus2009.
DC Akron...I owe South Carolina an apology? You think I owe the state that kicked off the Civil War in this great nation an apology? Really? @!$%# South Carolina and that rebel flag they fought tooth and nail to keep waiving on top of the capital building in Columbia.
And SCNative, I don't know much about that cute governor down there, but I do know this much, if she used her real name, I don't think she would have gotten that many votes. Besides, she passes for white anyway, especially being married to a white man. Furthermore, her being a woman doesn't have anything to do with a lot of people being still being racist in South Carolina. That would be sexist if they hadn't voted for her on those grounds.
"...we can't let it be Ron Paul..."
Well now the truth is finally surfacing, we are beginning to see the separation of the neo-cons from the true conservatives! (and it's about DAMN TIME!!!!)
Ron Paul's brand of "libertarianism" promotes the rise of fascist White Supremest groups & fascist Kill the Gay groups & the rise of the John Birch Society
That is not the brand of "libertarianism" libertarians want in America!
You are aware that Ron Paul is considered a Moderate Libertarian? He doesn't support the JBS, they are supporting him, he doesn't support any white supremacist organizations they are supporting him.
I guess what you are saying is that he should disavow parts of his support? Sure, when the president or any democrat does the same....
(I wonder what the Black Panthers openly discussing killing "CRAKKKERZ" or the great "BIG Al" Sharpton would think about that?)
He refuses to say anything to stop them simply because it is his libertarian values..... Paul is too extreme --- Far to extreme for real libertarians to accept
Jim, Has anyone ever mentioned to you that you seem to have an answer for everything? Ive never put anyone on Ignore on this site.( thats saying a lot) But you have me thinking about it.
You hate to see the truth Jolly?
jim er 'rabbit' ,it seems your just some loop-de-loop trying to bash on paul. to be honest this country is in utter chaos but you must live in "wear your seatbelt, dont say mean things ,the drug war is great" fantasy land. RON PAUL is everything america 'SHOULD' stand for .to much commie networks you've been watching. 'pssst' there all commie networks ,but i degress what would be an excellent combo RON PAUL & GARY JOHNSON . heres a platitude for all you talking (typing) thinkers, you dont get rich by doing the right thing , when the peasants give money to paul (we are the only ones almost) its not because we are ignorant 'racist' ,idiot ,morons . It's because he has the will of the people who do not get heard. those of us who are feed-up with wars that only benefit the 'ELITE' ,and those absurd laws that reduce are freedoms to pleas against a tyranical system that holds us in fear to even discuss anything other then what the MAINSTREAM MEDIA tells the sheep going to the slaughter to think. I was born in 1974 ...... I have yet to see my freedoms. IT'S PAUL or NOTHING!!!
Jim - Libertarians in their purest form want almost no government intervention in their lives. They also consider it important to protect their neighbor's liberties. That means no one should do anything to anyone in regards to race, religion, or sexual orientation.
What you are using as proof is not proof at all. Ron Paul was an Honorary Editor. Honorary Editors are the same as Honorary degrees, they do NOTHING. Basically like anyone else, he was used for legitimacy.
The other crap thrown out there is his no vote on the Civil Rights legislation, even though he voted for a stonger version.
I am not a Ron Paul supporter, but there is plenty enough legitimate stuff out there than the excriment you are producing.
buttcrack
hate to tell you this, but you'll still be locked up in prison
you still won't be able to deal drugs, steal your neighbors stuff, beat up people for fun, etc.
i'm so tired of listening to thugs scream about "not being able to do whatever they want" while being irresponsible little spits.
besides, you can't even write English, what do you really expect?
What I find amusing is Paul's big endorsement in SC is their former treasurer who has been indicted on federal cocaine charges. He likes Paul because he wants to legalize illegal drugs. Now that's an endorsement.
MOST RECENT POLLING
(Obama vs. Romney)
Rasmussen Reports
12/27 - 12/28
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Romney +6
Not to worry Leona.... No conservative or independent can top Obama's record, no matter how much more shape shifting Romney does
Democrats don't need any other candidate
Obama has done an exceptional job keeping our our country from collapsing into a depression, policies that prevent future federal bailouts, banking regulations long needed... His success on foreign policies, killing global terrorists,, pursuit of nuclear non proliferation & global nuclear disarmament... And a foreign policy of no longer being the World Police saving us quad trillions in future spending.. He's tough on China & signed into law the toughest sanctions against Iran in our history. ---- That's just the short list
His record of working for the American Family instead of just for the rich
Even his Affordable Health Care Act is working for millions of Americans --- Romney should take credit for it
Thousands of Americans have more rights & liberties today
No conservative or independent can match that record
hehehe. Good Luck Leona
ltcommander72,
"HEHE. GOOD LUCK" to you.
Obama said it's very bad for the country to raise the debt ceiling when Bush asked for it. ....and what is Obama doing right now? Answer: he's asking to raise the debt ceiling.
On Obama's watch, we have 8.6 unemployment (17% real unemployment), got the FIRST EVER s&p downgrade, and we are $ 15 trillion in debt and going up.
Worse than all that, for the first time in modern history, the 2 political parties cannot even agree to disagree.
A vote for Obama is a vote for another 4 years of the Divider-in-Chief and Golfer-in-Chief.
That problem is Congress & conservatives Leona,,,, Your Tea Party
Quit pissing on our shoes & America's flag Leona
Leona they will only start to get nasty with you!
Bush raised the debt ceiling 7 times, Reagan 18. What do you say to that Leona?
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Leona, when Obama was against raising the debt ceiling spending was getting out of control but the economy was still in good shape. Then the economy collapsed. Economists mostly all agree that we need to spend to get out of it.
Jim - even when Obama was elected he set the standards that he thought would get him elected. That included that if you passed the stimulus that unemployment would not rise above 8%. if he failed he understood that he would become a one term president.
There are three scenarios of outlook for 2012. Slow Growth, stagnation, or Decline. Coming out of the white house consistently is slow Growth and Stagnation. I've seen several articles with prognostications of gradual improvement from big names, but none that have accurately predicted the housing bust and current conditions.
What I am also seeing is more second tier investment advisers now mirroring what Dr Schiller said. Doctor Schiller is one of eight economists who said when the housing bust would occur, how low we would go and what a recovery would be like. He hasn't missed one point yet. In January he said the markets would reach about 12,500. At that point either the markets would pause a bit and continue up or then fall into a double dip Scenario. The chance of these two directions was about 50-50.
We are in December headed into January. The market closed today at 12217 and was down for the day. Market analyst have place the current market behavior, GDP behavior, housing behavior and are now recognizing this pattern to be identical to that of the Great Depression. They are expecting the markets to turn down hard by the end of January.
If this is true - Obama is a one term President.
What a shame that the fake tea parties down there support Newt... the most sleazy unethical PROGRESSIVE republican there is. Mitt is progressive (supported by OWS even) but at least he is not sleazy.
I am not a Newt supporter BUT the man is NOT sleazy. He got a divorce, just like more than half the country does now. He's in the majority, unfortunately.
The definition of SLEAZY is Anthony Weiner (taking pics of his "weiner" to send around the country) and Bill Clinton ( "messing up" all over an interns dress in the oval office).
The Democrats have SLEAZY down to a science.
Leona,,,,,Weiner isn't running for office, is he? ---- You've got a strange obsession with what's in his skivvies don't you?
Have you accepted the fact yet that Obama is a natural born & legal citizen of the United States yet Leona?
By the way.... Ronald Reagan called opposition to raising the debt ceiling "CRAZY"
Leona......dont say I didnt tell you!
Leona - Sleazy also is deserting your wife for another woman when she is lying in a hospital with cancer. Such is what Newt did.
Where is the attack jolly?
its just ramping up! History is your friend.
Jolly,,, Hate to be the one to tell you this but history is on the side of "Real Patriotism",,, Not your fascist version of it or a small government
I see Christmas has not brought you any closer to telling the truth.
Jim do you still believe that Karl Marx is "god" and that Barack Hussein Obama is his only begotten son?
I told you before, I will post Reagan's speech in it's entirety to expose your lies.
What Democrats and the liberal MSM leave out of Reagan's debt ceiling speech.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Presidential_Radio_Address_-_26_September_1987
Dude, that was John Edwards (D, NC)
Leona
I suppose a Republician senator feining a dump in the Minneapolis airport to try and get/give a little head does not constitute sleazy. Person open your eyes. Most of these guys, regardless, have more warts than a frog with genital herpes.
Emil
A lot of people slam Republicans as mind-numbed robots and not intelligent. The correct description of three years ago would actually very busy, and somewhat detached from politics as a whole.
This election, they want the winner and they want the right person, so they are these people going over candidate statements, records, and history. They are checking out what is written and said and figuring out what is true and what isn't.
The reason Newt is getting a second look is because people are finding that he is not the same man who was Speaker of the House in 1997. He has become a one woman man, he switched to Catholicism and actually is active in his faith. They know that there were only 85 charges to which 84 were dropped because of a lack of proof. They know that the charges he agreed promoting his political postions in a college course and probable income tax evasion were invalidated by a three year IRS investigation that termed his college tape content as politically neutral clearing the 501c3 who distributed the tapes and that his income was therefore reported appropriately.
They are doing this close examination of every candidate, just like I am. If find the bulk of the posts here as false and misleading, some just out ignorance, and some, because they do so deliberately.
I do not have a candidate, and almost every refutation I do, I do have links to legitimate sources that are not necessarily friendly to the candidate. I deliberately use references from mainstream sources - it shows how little some really actually listen to all the news.
jollyoldsoul1: "Leona they will only start to get nasty with you!"
That's what liberals do when they are losing the argument. They get nasty.
I am not phased by what a bunch of kool aid drinkers are saying . The truth will win out. Maybe, one day, these liberals will understand that the govt. is growing out of control and taking over our lives. This is exactly what the Founders didn't want. They wanted a government "for the people, by the people."
The only people getting rich today are liberal govt. politicians, like Nancy Pelosi, who are guilty of "insider trading" , adding up more regulations on businesses and forcing "green" projects down out throats.
Ask Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law how many millions they've made from "green" company money pits at the tax payers expense.
Leona, you state, "Maybe, one day, these liberals will understand that the govt. is growing out of control and taking over our lives. This is exactly what the Founders didn't want."
Ok....I understand that the governement is growing out of control. I also can PLAINLY see that it is not the liberals who are attempting to legislate a woman's reproductive rights (or the removal thereof). It is not the liberals who wish to legislate the country's morality.
When those who consider themselves "conservative" can explain how creating law that restricts a woman's right to make choices over her own body...how saying it should be illegal to obtain an abortion when the mother's life is at risk (or some unfortunate 12 year old who's been raped) makes any kind of freaking sense in this day in age. When any republican or conservative can explain how these laws create LESS or SMALLER government -- seeing how we'll have to then pay for some office or other to enforce these laws.
I am not even a liberal. I was once a registered republican who lost faith after the first Bush. The republican party is now the party of the extreme religious right. They spout all this crap about wanting smaller government but push for legislation that restricts individual rights. They lie outright about cutting spending....when what they really want is to cut liberal spending but not their own. Instead of tax and spend....they want to BORROW and spend - which, IMO, is even more stupid and irresponsible.
I think the democrats are just as bad....but instead of telling me to get out there and vote conservative republican...or libertarian.....give me someone worth voting for. That is something that I have not been offered from the republicans this cycle. I would rather stick with what I have than take a chance that any of these idiots the republicans have put on display. PLEASE offer me someone worth voting for...someone who will work for EVERY American and not just a select few....because absolutely none of these candidates is believeable to me.
skirvich
extremely well said, bravo!
leona, you can't even come up with a logical argument, all you can do is spout illogical ad-homineum attacks and sputter "nancy pelosi! al gore! blah blah blah!" I never hear anything rational from you , just a bunch of name calling.
right, the Koch brothers, financiers of the tea-party express aren't making a penny, just terribly poor "average Americans" that were born with a diamond-encrusted platinum spoon in their mouth, but somehow "worked really hard" for what they inherited
Since Mr Paul has strong support in the 18-35 range, if he were able to convince the over 65 crowd that he doesn't actually want to end SS, just to modify it to keep the government from stealing from the fund to pay for welfare and wars, he would stand a pretty good chance.
john - I outgrew Ayn Rand when I was 21 - when I realized her world would have no place for me and my bairns - however she did inspire me to get my degree - went back to school and got my degree from University of Chicago - Economics - just to prove she was wrong
Her world only accepted the elite and Captains of Industry - people should really check out her theory of objectivism and the destructive craziness of the John Birch Society and think where would they fit into this mindless selfishness - then look at their children and family and ask themselves how would they fit in
I'm impressed, Barbara. You went to the Chicago School of Economics, and seem to have escaped the theology of Fiedmanism.
Oops. That should read ". . . the theology of Friedmanism."
Actually Matthew Friedman was one of my professors - out- grew him too
But what a wonderful experience being at U of C when the turmoil of the late 50's and early 60's was going on same as now a hell of a lot years older and seeing the same
Matthew - same name as my youngest son - the whole trickle down BS happened with Reagan- look up his Kitchen Cabinet - why would they approach a B Actor to run if not to control - saved his beloved ranch paid it off and bought him his retirement home in Santa Barbara
And he served them well
Wow, even more impressive. Taught by the master, himself, and knew enough (or experienced enough) to see the error of his ways. Obviously you were not one of 'The Chicago Boys', but in your youth and enthusiasm, did you participate in any of the activities they were doing (it's okay if you did, you've obviously seen the light, and are speaking out - good for you)? You must have known a few of them, they were your classmates, and contemporaries.
I'm reading Naomi Klein's 'The Shock Doctrine' for the second time. The first read pi$$ed me off royally, the second read is a little more analytical. There are some 'conclusions' she draws that, while I do not disagree, I see how they are just opinion based on observation, that others may not share. However, if half of what she writes is true, and I don't have any reason to not believe any of the facts, the US has a lot to be ashamed of during that period. This is still my country, and I am a patriotic veteran, but, like a parent can be disappointed in a misbehaving child, and still love them, I am disappointed in many things the US has done.
I've read a lot of economics history, and think I should have been an economist, rather than an engineer. Once I can afford it, and have the time, I am going back to school to do just that. I may be old, but you are never too old to learn.
These Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks who post on these threads, think that the American people will just do what THEY WISH we all would do and that's simply "ignore" B. Hussein Obama's THREE YEARS OF FAILURE AS POTUS, INCREASE OF AMERICAN JOBLESSNESS AND SPENDING MORE U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY AND DRIVING UP THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT AND U.S. NATIONAL DEBT, MORE THAN ALMOST ALL THE OTHER U.S. PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM...COMBINED!!!
Now if the U.S. Economy were going great and if the U.S. Unemployment Rate was like 5%, if the U.S. Housing Market was turned around and home values were no longer upside down with their mortgages and home foreclosures were way down and if American workers' salaries were way up and health care and health insurance costs were way down, we all know these Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks would be singing Obama's praises and telling about all his positive accomplishments as POTUS and how B. Hussein Obama saved the American people from former President Bush's horrible "inherited" economy. THEY WOULDN'T BE GIVING FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH THE CREDIT FOR OBAMA'S NOW THREE YEARS IN OFFICE IF THE ABOVE POSITIVE THINGS WERE HAPPENING WITH REGARDS TO THE U.S. ECONOMY, WOULD THEY?
So if they wouldn't be giving former President Bush credit if the CURRENT U.S. Economy were going great with all the above things I mentioned, why wouldn't they be giving B. Hussein Obama the credit for making the U.S. Economy WORSE THAN EVER, with his failed policies and presidency IN THREE YEARS...hhmm??!!
They foolishly and ignorantly think that THEY ARE in the majority thinking of the American Electorate and that the American Voters next Nov. 6th, 2012 will simply "ignore" B. Hussein Obama's entire FOUR YEAR TERM AS POTUS and just "blame Bush" to re-elect him. Ha!!!
I knew there was a lot of recreational drug use amongst the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks, I just didn't know it was so widespread!!! Anyway, all the more wailing they'll be doing when on Election Night 2012, B. Hussein Obama will be on Int'l TV giving his Concession Speech to the new REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT-ELECT. I can't wait and it can't come soon enough.
I'm so tired of this Inexperienced and Unqualified, Socialist/Marxist "Community Organizer" being in the White House and not having a d**ned clue as to what the h*ll he's doing and taking all of his multi-week family vacations b/c he likes to be President, but doesn't like the governing part. What an abject failure the B. Hussein Obama presidency has been. He needs to and will be sent back to Chicago come Election Night 2012.
If B. Hussein Obama couldn't handle the job of being POTUS, then he should've never run for it in the first place. I mean this is the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" who promised that he would cut the U.S. Federal Deficit IN HALF by the end of his first term (He's doubled it in less than THREE YEARS) as POTUS.
He promised that his Obamacare, socialized medicine scheme, would decrease the cost of health care and health insurance once passed and since its passage, the cost of health care and health insurance has gone nothing, but UP.
B. Hussein Obama also promised he would close down GITMO, which he never did and won't ever do.
He also promised that if the U.S. Economy didn't turn around in three years, from him taking office as POTUS, then his presidency would likely be a "one term deal." (See YouTube) Not only has the U.S. Economy NOT TURNED AROUND, but it's gotten exponentially worse since this no-good, inexperienced, unqualified, Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" took office.
Now what IS REALISTIC, is instead of making excuses and apologies for "poor ole Barack," why not hold him ACCOUNTABLE for his THREE YEARS OF ABJECT FAILURE AS POTUS??!! If you Left wing, Nut Job Kooks were so wise and knowledgeable in the "truths of life" why would you let this Left wing skunk hold the most powerful office in the world, much less the United States of America, a minute longer than you had, as an American voter, with his FAILED performance on the U.S. Economy as POTUS, so far by voting for him?
Neither the Republican party, nor Fox News, nor Rush Limbaugh, nor Sean Hannity, nor Ann Coulter, nor etc. made those promises of JOBS, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND HEALTHCARE COSTS BEING REDUCED FOR ALL, B. Hussein Obama made ALL those promises back in 2008.
And when B. Hussein Obama made those promises, he never promised the American people, "blame Bush" strategies, he never promised the American people excuses for the U.S. Economy and Joblessness not improving under his non-leadership, he never promised the American people that he would simply demonize and dehumanize his political opponents and/or allow his political cronies to do so, like Jimmy Hoffa Jr., without speaking out against that. He promised the American people Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and at least an improvement in the U.S. Economy, Housing Market and declining property values, that we'd already see AFTER THREE YEARS in the White House. The reason we don't see any improvement in the U.S. Economy is simple, his policies don't work!!
Admit it already. B. Hussein Obama is one of the worst U.S. Presidents in the history of this nation and certainly in most of our lifetimes. This guy makes Jimmy Carter looks like a good, sound, fiscal conservative, for goodness sakes. STOP MAKING EXCUSES, HOLD B. HUSSEIN OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN PRESIDENCY. IF THE U.S. ECONOMY WAS GOING REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW, AND JOB CREATION WAS WAY UP, WOULD YOU BE GIVING FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH THE CREDIT FOR IT? OR WOULD YOU BE GIVING B. HUSSEIN OBAMA THE CREDIT FOR IT?
SO IF YOU WOULD GIVE OBAMA THE CREDIT IF THE U.S. ECONOMY WERE GOING GREAT RIGHT NOW AFTER HIS THREE YEARS AS POTUS, THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO GIVE HIM THE BLAME FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY REMAINING AWFUL RIGHT NOW AND EVEN BECOMING EXPONENTIALLY WORSE UNDER HIS NON-LEADERSHIP..PERIOD...END OF STORY.
Wow!
Let me tell you what Obama has done for me personally:
1. As a woman, he passed Lilly Ledbetter law that ensures I get paid the same as amale counterpart
2. As a woman, because of the affordable healthcare act,I cannot be dropped from insurance because I have a pre-existing condition
3. He has deported more illegals than any other president
4. He got Osama Bin Laden
5. Consumer protection act ensures that I am not fleeced by banks, credit card companies or any other firm like that
6. Signed nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Russia (our biggest enemy in terms of nukes)
7. Passed regulations protecting our air, drinking water and soil
8. Executive order to hire veterans with disabilities
9.Executive order to hire returning Veterans
10.A WHOLE BUNCH of veterans programs including VA fully funded, homeless veterans, VA budget as must-pass legislation
11. As a woman, violence against women legislation
12. A WHOLE BUNCH of military services including expanding army corps, military families advisory boards, military exchange programs
13. Bioforensics program to track biological weapons of terror
14. Affordable high quality child care
15.Expand SCHIP for children
So he created more dept.
JohnnyBNuts, we got your rant the first posting. You aren't one of those go get your gun guys are you cause you sound like too much coffee or meth or some sort of insanity rooting its way out. Either way cool it we got it the first time and it wasn't entertaining then or informative except to reveal your strangeness.
I got some news for you Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Kooks, NOBODY OWES YOU JACK S**T, INCLUDING A JOB!!! It's people like you that put people like our Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" President in office in 2008.
Stop complaining and being so envious of people who are smarter, work harder and are far more economically successful than you and start working just as hard or harder to make the wealth that they have, if you're so "angry" about them having wealth.
And since when does being wealthy in America automatically equal being a crook, as you Left Wing Kooks say? And when does being poor automatically equal being honest & loveable as you say? You all's talking points are coming straight out of the Communist Manifesto pals and the sad part about that is, a lot of no-good, lazy, jealous, and envious Americans like you, just want to simply re-distribute wealth that you've never earned, nor ever deserved. All just to get back at "rich whitey." People who believe as you do are called THE DEMOCRAT PARTY (& their robot minions).
If you're tired of being poor and worthless, GO OUT AND START BUSTING YOUR BUTT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. DON'T EXPECT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OR WORSE THE U.S. TAXPAYERS, TO DO IT FOR YOU, YOU MARXIST, SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST SCHLEPS!!!
Oh Johnny Bee do you notice nobody is paying attention to your rants go to Faux News and good night get your little blankee and go to bed
Johnny Bee
What's it like to be consumed by so much hatred toward your fellow Americans. It must really be a b!tch.
Have a nice life.
I would like to know if any of the Left wing, Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Kooks who post and/or read on this blog, please give us (by posting your) HONEST ASSESSMENT of B. Hussein Obama's, the great "Community-Organizer-in-Chief" job performance on the U.S. Economy since becoming POTUS in January 2009?
Simple as that, can you give an honest grading of B. Hussein Obama's job performance on the U.S. Economy?
Can any of you scared, cowardly Socialist Democrats do just that?
I can in one word. FAILURE, F - GRADE and imo, I don't believe an F - Graded POTUS deserves re-election to another four year term in the White House. With your grade, does B. Hussein Obama deserve re-election? Yes or No?
Well under the circumstances with the WORST HOUSE in the history of the USA, he is doing a fine job. NOW johnny, your concern should be the CLOWN CAR RACE. Ya got NOBODY. Ring a bell? NOBODY. and so, President Obama WILL BE ELECTED AGAIN. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET READYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JOHNNY.
My fellow Conservative Republicans, WE CANNOT ALLOW the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrats change the subject from B. Hussein Obama's entire THREE YEARS OF FAILURE AS POTUS, nor let our great country forget on Nov. 6th, 2012. We also CANNOT ALLOW the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrats to make the 2012 General Elections to be about the GOP Nominee, instead of B. Hussein Obama's Presidential Term of FAILURE while in office.
We have to continue to remind the American Electorate of the current state of the U.S. Economy and joblessness and remind the voters that Obama has been in office THREE YEARS and soon to be FOUR YEARS and nothing has improved during this term in the White House. We have to tell the American electorate any way that we can, that B. Hussein Obama hates this country and does not want it to rebound economically, succeed, nor be a leader in the world for freedom, democracy, capitalism, free markets and the private sector being stronger than the federal government where the people have all the power, instead of the feds whom are there to serve us.
We have to NOT ALLOW the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrats to "change the subject" or try to distract the American electorate from focusing ON OBAMA's MISERABLE RECORD OF FAILURE WITH REGARDS TO THE U.S. ECONOMY AND JOBLESSNESS. We must force them to do what they already know themselves they cannot do and that's to DEFEND B. HUSSEIN OBAMA'S MISERABLE RECORD AS POTUS.
We also must not allow them to just "blame Bush" and then quickly change the subject to attack the GOP Nominee, the GOP party, Conservatism, Christianity, American Traditionalism, Our Philosophy on the "Truths of Life" and ANY prior administration's record. MAKE THEM DEFEND OBAMA'S RECORD AND B. HUSSEIN OBAMA'S RECORD ALONE.
They've even graded B. Hussein Obama themselves on this very thread when I asked them and the best grade they could give him was a "C" (a horrible grade from his own robot followers and one they knew they couldn't give any higher to, as they would look like the foolish, lying, robot followers that they are) and yet still posted their ridiculous beliefs that a "C" Graded POTUS is worth re-electing, even in a horrible U.S. Economy and skyrocketing U.S. Unemployment rate. Thus making those posters "rambling defenses" of B. Hussein Obama look foolish and biased as they truly are. Make these Left Wing, Leftist, Liberal, Socialist Marxist, Democrat Kooks defend this CLOWN & "Community Organizer" President and they'll be stumbling over their foolish a**es trying to defend what they know to be a FAILURE of an inexperienced and unqualified POTUS.
Johnny
You one of them Arian people?
Emil
Lots of people here must be paid to say good things about Obama. Ive traveled the country and all i see are boarded up buildings and when i talk to people they tell me how bad things are.
It gets old with people use of the race thing or class thing. Obama is so bad i think Hilary would be a step up.And i never imagined a worse president than Jimmy Carter.but here he is. Fricken eletist/communist.
Its like he wants the country to fail.
Yeah, Obama has kept his promises to fix the American Economy & improve joblessness (NOT!!) and to run a much more transparent and honest (Chicago-style, pay-for-play, actually) method of governing. So, let's not forget, in order to pass Obamacare, after B. Hussein Obama promised that those healthcare bill debates would be televised live on C-SPAN (HA!! WHAT A LIE THAT WAS!!), he implemented shady, backroom deals like the Cornhusker Kickback with Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Senator Ben Nelson, the Louisiana Purchase with Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Senator Mary Landrieu and the Florida Gator-aid Deal with Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Senator Bill Nelson (which at the time, B. Hussein Obama was pressured, by the American people, to back out of). In addition to that, here's some other slimy, shady happenings that occurred with the passage of Obamacare...Chicago-style, pay-for-play politics at its finest!!
Scott Matheson, brother of Congressman Jim Matheson (D, Utah), was suddenly nominated to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. Obediently, Congressman Matheson went from a "no" vote on Obamacare to "Undecided."
A new hospital in Connecticut for morally-challenged Senator Chris Dodd
Roughly ten billion U.S. Taxpayer dollars in community health centers to buy off Vermont's Bernie Sanders
A threat to take away Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman's committee chairmanship unless he fell into line with regards to Obamacare
The above are just a few of the slimy tactics, bribes, kickbacks and payoffs, that B. Hussein Obama pulled on the unwitting American people who have never polled as a majority FOR Obamacare, but have to have it completely repealed!! NOT TO MENTION THAT THE SUPER-MAJORITY, DEMOCRAT-CONTROLLED U.S. CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT EXEMPTED THEMSELVES AND ONLY A FEW LIBERAL AFL/CIO LEFTIST, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MARXIST, DEMOCRAT LABOR UNIONS FROM HAVING TO PARTICIPATE IN OBAMACARE AT ALL, WHILE THE REST OF US, U.S. CITIZENS ARE FEDERAL GOV'T MANDATED TO!!!
I always knew that Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrats love to accuse others of what they themselves are 100X more guilty of, but the nerve & audacity of a lot of you Left Wing, Socialist, Marxist Kooks to accuse the GOP of being nefarious, unethical, corporatists would be so LAUGHABLE, if it wasn't such a downright, bold-faced lie!!!
B. Hussein Obama and his Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat party, and left wing kooky robot followers who post on these PMS-NBC Threads are the most unethical, most nefarious, most notoriously foul and corrupt LIARS in U.S. Political History!!! However, your lies and distortions WON'T WORK on Nov. 6th, 2012. I promise you that!!!
Wow!
Let me tell you what Obama has done for me personally:
1. As a woman, he passed Lilly Ledbetter law that ensures I get paid the same as amale counterpart
2. As a woman, because of the affordable healthcare act,I cannot be dropped from insurance because I have a pre-existing condition
3. He has deported more illegals than any other president
4. He got Osama Bin Laden
5. Consumer protection act ensures that I am not fleeced by banks, credit card companies or any other firm like that
6. Signed nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Russia (our biggest enemy in terms of nukes)
7. Passed regulations protecting our air, drinking water and soil
8. Executive order to hire veterans with disabilities
9.Executive order to hire returning Veterans
10.A WHOLE BUNCH of veterans programs including VA fully funded, homeless veterans, VA budget as must-pass legislation
11. As a woman, violence against women legislation
12. A WHOLE BUNCH of military services including expanding army corps, military families advisory boards, military exchange programs
13. Bioforensics program to track biological weapons of terror
14. Affordable high quality child care
15.Expand SCHIP for children
Jonny,
How terrible are community health centers and hospitals? They are not yachts and golfing trips for Boehner and his ilk. I didn't see any of them giving money back when they asked for money for their communities.
That's too bad that you see Obama as a leftist marxist community organizer. He is a Harvard law graduate with a professorship from U of Chicago and was a senator before pursuing the presidency. As a master's degree holder in Mechanical Engineering, I can fully appreciate my fellow educator but I guess he didn't 'earn' that huh?!
I would like to see the papers he wrote. If you look at the people he has hung out with or his promises that he broke.He sucks! Just look at his judgement of picking Joe Biden for a vice president,the guy is a moron.He well lose to whoever runs against him,if you suck really bad at your job you get canned and replaced.Oh unless your a union member.
Johnny b nuts, you're not one of those go get a gun guys cause you sound like it. Stay off the coffee or meth or whatever you're dosing on and give it a break we got your point the first posting now you're just screeching. insanity only funny when nobody gets hurt and maybe not even that.
B. Hussein Obama's, the great "Community-Organizer-in-Chief" 2012 Presidential Campaign strategy:
"Please ignore my entire 1st four-year term as POTUS, since that was a miserable failure and I did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to strengthen the U.S. economy, lower the U.S. unemployment rate, help the toxic housing market with underwater mortgages and increase property values, nor anything to stop record home foreclosure rates, nor stop a record number of people from being on welfare, food stamps and medicaid. But hey, I did let gays, lesbians, and transgender, sexually deviant, mentally deranged people openly serve in our U.S. Military without care what that would do to morale and/or National Security!!!"
"RE-ELECT ME INSPITE OF MY ABJECT FAILURE OF A PRESIDENCY IN A GENERATION (OR AT LEAST SINCE JIMMY CARTER) AND IN-SPITE OF MY AND MY PARTY'S LEFTIST, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MARXIST, DEMOCRAT POLICIES, NOT BECAUSE OF THEM!!"
(Psst, don't worry, the PMS-NBC News Channel and National Public Radio, will get my followers and "commrades" to fall for my horsesh*t "tax the rich," "help the poor," "redestribute the wealth" and "hope & change" mantras once again. Hee-hee-hee-hee, such foolish, robot followers we have!!!)
Ha!!! Nuff Said!!!
You act as if all our country's problem is Pres. Obama, do you read the press and how the REPUGS signed Grovers pledge? The repugs have made any progress mute and you have the balls to say it is all Obama? You must have forgotten how the two wars were not on the "books", or the fact that repugs are the ones who raided social security. If given the fact Bush spent less time in the White House than any president, the Texas White House, Maine and anywhere else. He made a joke of our country and citizens with his backdoor policies.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Actually Obama has Bush beat on the vacation and golf thing. We need term limits really bad.
Johnnie Bee, regarding your comment about President Obama 'redistributing the wealth', where have you been for the last 30 years??? Even since Reagan's failed 'trickle down' economic policies of the 1980's, the net worth of the top 1% has risen A LOT (I have read the statistic but can't find it right now so I won't make up a figure), but the net worth of middle and lower income wage earners has remained relatively stagnant. And of course, middle and lower income wage earners actually work for their money, as opposed to the top 1% who just shuffle papers, layoff employees, and close factories and move the work overseas where labor is so much cheaper. The top 1% might put in a lot of hours at their place of employment, but they don't actually do much work. Middle and lower income Americans cannot afford much more 'wealth redistribution' to the top 1%. It's about time for the pendulum to swing back the other way and return some of the money the top 1% have stolen (with Congress' help) from middle and lower wage earners!!
Nuff said!!
To all you Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kooks who post on these PMS-NBC threads. I've got some bad news for you and your "Community-Organizer-in-Chief" (President in name only):
Your PMS-NBC and National Public Radio "talking points" of divisive politics and class warfare are not only nothing but lies and worn out, tired excuses for your Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing, Democrat Kooky beliefs, but are also not supported by a majority of the American Electorate. Sorry, but your Democrat Party's class warfare and divisive politics are just not reasonating with the great majority of the American voters.
WE WANT THE JOBS THAT OBAMA & THE LEFTIST, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MARXIST, DEMOCRAT, LEFT WING KOOKS PROMISED US IN 2008 & A VAST MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT SIMPLY "IGNORE" AND "BLAME BUSH" FOR OBAMA'S ENTIRE FOUR YEAR TERM IN OFFICE COME NOV. 2012...PERIOD...END OF STORY!!! So sorry for your luck, ha!!
Hey all you Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Spineless, Left wing Kooks; What is your "Community-Organizer-in-Chief" B. Hussein Obama gonna do about the escalating tensions in the Straight of Hormuz, hhmm? Is he gonna whip out some of that "strong diplomacy" in only the way that a gutless, spineless socialist, marxist Democrat can do?
Whatever happened to him having direct talks with Iran? I thought only his mastery of "strong diplomacy" would somehow magically cause the Iranians to drop all of their Nuclear Weapons production? Ha!!! What a joke this "Community Organizer" that's a President in name only, B. Hussein Obama truly is.
Despite B. Hussein Obama-Endorsed 'Occupy' Protesters, Socialism is Looked Upon as Negative by 60% of Americans. AND ONLY LOOKED UPON POSITIVE BY 31% OF AMERICANS. Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!
According to the Pew Research Center, not even the B. Hussein Obama-endorsed 'Occupy' protesters can change the fact that Americans look upon Socialism as negative and Capitalism positive. Even with all of B. Hussein Obama's rhetoric and railing against Capitalism, he loses the battle.
Socialism was looked upon negative by 60% and favorable by only 31% (that 31% is you Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kooks who post on these PMS-NBC threads). Meanwhile, Capitalism had a 50% positive rating and a 40% negative one.
The recent Occupy Wall Street protests have focused public attention on what organizers see as the excesses of America's free market system, but perceptions of Capitalism – and even of Socialism – have changed little since early 2010 despite the recent tumult.
The American public's take on Capitalism remains mixed, with just slightly more saying they have a positive (50%) than a negative (40%) reaction to the term. That's largely unchanged from a 52% to 37% balance of opinion in April 2010.
As stated at Weasel Zippers, looks like Newsweek was wrong, we are all not Socialists now. Imagine that, Newsweek was wrong again. Ha!!!
Americans see B. Hussein Obama as the Farthest Presidential Candidate from Them Ideologically Including All Republicans.
B. Hussein Obama, the most out of touch candidate for American ideology.
According to a recent Gallup poll, which should cause yet more concern for President B. Hussein Obama for the 2012 elections - Americans see Obama as the farthest candidate from them ideologically than any of the current GOP 2012 primary candidates. Should this really come as a surprise as B. Hussein Obama is the most Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing, Kook and polarizing U.S. President ever elected?!
Although many Americans are not not sure of some of the Republican candidates, they have had THREE YEARS to figure out exactly what Obama's ideology is. 57% consider Obama very liberal/liberal, while 15% polled (who were smoking crack when asked) stating that Obama was very conservative/conservative. If Obama has not yet convinced America that he is not "very liberal" at this point, it is a lost cause. America knows exactly what B. Hussein Obama is and stands for, there is no fooling the American voting public like in 2008.
What should further trouble Obama is that Independents consider B. Hussein Obama the farthest away from their ideology as well. However, just how out of touch are Democrats with the main stream of society? They think B. Hussein Obama is spot on with their ideology. Ha!!!
This is coupled with other polling data showing Obama loses a hypothetical match up with Mitt Romney 45% to 39%.
B. Hussein Obama's job approval rating is also back down to 41% approval – 50% disapproval as per Gallup. See ya at the polls on November 6th, 2012!!! Can you say, B. Hussein Obama Concession Speech to the new Republican President-Elect on Election Night??!! Hee-hee-hee!!!
Aha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! Oh yeah, B. Hussein Obama will wipe the floor with any of the GOP Contenders in the Nov. 6th, 2012 General Election (NOT!).
Robert Reich Predicts Hillary Clinton Will Replace Biden as VEEP on 2012 Obama Re-election Ticket
B. Hussein Obama's political shell game - Robert Reich predicts Left wing Kook & has-been U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will be in and Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kook Vice President Joe Biden will be out as Veep on B. Hussein Obama's 2012 Presidential re-election ticket.
This is certainly not something that we have not heard rumored or speculated before. However, according to Reich he has no inside information to come to this conclusion, only a hunch. Reich states that B. Hussein Obama needs to stir the passions and enthusiasms of a dis-illusioned Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, Left wing Kooky base and an increasing poor U.S. economy & poor American jobless rate.
In other words Reich is saying that B. Hussein Obama needs to create a diversion (distraction from his abject failure of a presidency) and play a political shell game so that "We the People" will pay more attention to a change rather than the failed "Hope & Change," manure that B. Hussein Obama promised in 2008, but has never delivered on.
Let alone a continued poor U.S. economy that has millions of Americans STILL out of work. B. Hussein Obama obviously cannot run on his record (a record of failure & recession), so Reich wants B. Hussein Obama to play political diversion games. How nice. Reich then goes on to say that this would set up Hillary Clinton to be the 2016 Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left wing Kook, Democrat Presidential candidate.
Of course this presumes that an Obama/Cinton ticket would win on Nov. 6th, 2012. But would it work for America?
One, does Hillary Clinton really want to put all her political eggs in Obama's basket and run on the horribly wretched Obama U.S. economy and Socialist/Marxist Obamacare?
Two, could Obama and Hillary Clinton really get along, along with adding BJ Clinton to the mix? Talk about the political "Odd Couple."
Three, does anyone really think that Left wing Kook VP Joe Biden is the reason why Obama's job approval numbers are so low? Biden has done everything for this Socialist/Marxist President including selling his soul and acting the fool, even more so than usual.
Four, imagine the political ads against Obama/Clinton taken from their 2008 primary battles.
Five, does Obama have the ability, humility and personality to accept that HE is the problem and Hillary Clinton is his Savior? Hardly, many have already suggested B. Hussein Obama not run for a second term for the betterment of the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat party. However, that was never an option for Obama's ego. B. Hussein Obama has continually shot down the notion that Clinton and Biden would swap jobs. If he makes such a flip-flop now, it would show just how politically weak "The One," truly is. Also, he would be, if re-elected, a neutered U.S. President and everyone would know who would really wears the "pant suits" in the Oval Office. Ha!! I love it!!
It was the beginning of 2007 when I lost my job not 2008 and since then Republican's have done everything they can to keep me unemployed at my trade! Yes I'm working but 3 jobs part time!
Jonny Bee
Why are you on this site then? You are insufferable!!!
B. Hussein Obama has played 90 rounds of golf, but Thursday evening, 12/29/2011, was the very first time that our Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, America-hating, Democrat, Left wing Kook visited Pearl Harbor, since becoming POTUS!!!
PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES!!!
What is wrong with this picture? B. Hussein Obama has played 90 rounds of golf, however, his visit Thursday, December 29, 2011 to Pear Harbor was the first time since becoming Commander-in-Chief. December 7, 2011 marked the 70th Anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor and the death of more than 2400 Brave, American Souls. However, B. Hussein Obama was no where to be found. Yet, he manages to visit Peal Harbor for the first time in between rounds of golf and shaved ice with the family while on vacation in Hawaii? As fate would have it, there were reporters there, imagine that!!
The president and first lady, Princess Michelle Obama visited the USS Arizona Memorial, where they observed a moment of silence in a room in which the names of crew members who died 70 years ago this month have been inscribed.
B. Hussein Obama, who visited the memorial before he was President in 2008, did not make any remarks at the memorial, according to a report. But he and the Princess dropped white and purple orchids onto the sunken battleship.
What an example he has sets as supposed Commander-in-Chief. At some point this guy will pay a political price for using the U.S. Military as a political prop. We'll remember in November (2012)!!!!
Johny B (you poor little Nazi) - You better get used to that "Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, America-hating, Democrat, Left wing Kook", because he's going to be around for another 4 years.
Obama 2012
damn what the hell has this turned into ? leftist, social marxist ,and nazi's . heres one for ya HEY COMMIES GO HOME . the only canidates eligible to hold the title are the ones getting bashed and i dont mean obama. every single person that votes along party lines , or any enemy of freedom that calls people 'nazis???' are the ones destroying the country . im sick and tired of all the REDS (conservatives and liberals) for not sharing in the blame . its RON PAUL and GARY JOHNSON or nuff said.
Paul/Johnson 2012. It's time for the Libertarian party to become the real third party.
Johnnie Bee,
You have been drinking way too much Teapublican kool-aid!! Go take your meds and a nice long nap.
Dontcha get tired fingers typing all that hatred, Johnny? Your spewings are endless.