NBC poll: Mitt Romney, Ron Paul neck-and-neck in Iowa; Newt Gingrich in 5th

In the past two weeks, support has fallen sharply in Iowa for Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

 

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Texas Rep. Ron Paul are running neck-and-neck in Iowa, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum is surging and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich collapsing just four days before the state's Jan. 3 caucuses, according to a new NBC News-Marist poll.

Romney drew the support of 23 percent of likely caucus-goers in Iowa – identified based on interest, chance of voting and past participation – ahead of Paul, at 21 percent.


They are followed by Santorum at 15 percent, Texas Gov. Rick Perry at 14 percent, Gingrich at 13 percent and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann at 6 percent.

The Republican presidential hopefuls are in high gear with just days left until the Iowa caucuses. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.

The poll numbers, which are similar to those published in a recent CNN/Time survey, represent a reversal of fortune for Gingrich, as well as an improvement for Santorum and (to a lesser extent) Perry. The NBC-Marist poll conducted in late November had Gingrich in the lead among likely caucus-goers at 28 percent, Romney and Paul tied at 19 percent, Perry at 10 percent, Bachmann at 7 percent and Santorum at 6 percent.

“More than half of [Gingrich’s] support has evaporated,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the survey.

Negative advertising hits Gingrich 'on the chin'
Miringoff adds that the millions of dollars in negative TV ads targeting Gingrich – from a pro-Romney Super PAC and the Paul campaign – have played a major role in this erosion, with 35 percent of likely caucus-goers now saying he’d be unacceptable as the GOP’s nominee. That’s a 19-point increase from last month.

"The fight I'm in with Romney is exactly the fight that Reagan was in with the establishment in '80," GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich tells NBC's Chuck Todd in a one-on-one interview.

What’s more, only 6 percent in the survey identify Gingrich as the “true conservative” in the Republican contest.

“He took it on the chin,” Miringoff says of the negative advertising campaign, which has questioned Gingrich’s conservative credentials and tied him to Washington.

Splintered Tea Party support
Although just 7 percent of likely Iowa caucus-goers believe that Romney is the true conservative in the GOP field, he has two variables working in his favor, according to the poll. One, only 21 percent of likely caucus-goers say he’s unacceptable as the Republican nominee (compared with 35 percent for Gingrich and 41 percent for Paul).

And two, the conservative vote appears to be splintering between the various candidates, and is no longer coalescing around a single Romney challenger.

The wild card in this race has been and continues to be Ron Paul, the Libertarian who has a growing following inside the Republican Party. NBC's Chuck Todd has more.

Last month, Gingrich had a large lead over Romney (and the other GOP rivals) among Tea Party supporters.

But in this new poll, Tea Party supporters – who make up about half of all likely caucus-goers – are divided.

Santorum gets 20 percent from them, Romney and Paul 17 percent, Gingrich 16 percent, Perry 15 percent and Bachmann 10 percent.

“This is the Romney dream scenario,” Miringoff says. “When you look at the Tea Party and conservatives, they are all splintered.”

Obama’s approval rating ticks up in Iowa
The poll also shows an improvement in President Barack Obama’s approval rating in Iowa.

Forty-five percent of registered voters in the state approve of him, while 43 percent disapprove.

Last month, those numbers were upside down, with 43 approving and 46 disapproving.

Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum vaults past Newt Gingrich and into third place in the GOP presidential race in Iowa, according to a new poll. Santorum talks to TODAY's Savannah Guthrie about the surge, his conservative values and why he can beat Barack Obama in the general election.

The Iowa NBC-Marist survey was conducted Dec. 27-28 of 2,905 registered voters (margin of error of plus-minus 1.8 percentage points) and of 433 likely GOP caucus-goers (plus-minus 4.7 percentage points).

Also, unlike the recent CNN-Time poll, the likely voter model in the NBC-Marist survey included independents and a few Democrats, and it measured some respondents by cell phone.

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So, where is the good news in this for the American people?

The gopers will still nominate a candidate who will barnstorm coast-to-coast spreading more lies and blaming everyone else for their decades of fiscal failure and economic class warfare they have been waging against the American people for generations.

We still haven't fixed any of the damage wrought by Nixon and Reagan, and here comes another crop of nation-busting buffoons.

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Reply#349 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:46 PM EST

political prisoner --- right on!

    #349.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:39 PM EST
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    How does support "evaporate?"

    You either have it or you don't.

    These are phony candidates put up there by the media to see how friggin dumb we are.

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    Reply#350 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:26 PM EST

    soros+van jones+obama= republican's in 2012!!!!

      #351 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:36 PM EST

      gary k ---- soros has done more to help the middle class than your koch bros. these aholes even screwed their own siblings out of their inheritance. do you really think they would think twice to put it to the middle class? you have got to be a right wing troll to admire these bungholes.

        #351.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:04 PM EST

        Tell me what that low life SOB soros has done for the middle class?

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        #351.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:27 PM EST

        gary k ---- come on pal. get off your duppa and google this for yourself. i'm not going to do the work for you. how about the crotch bros screwing their siblings out of the inheritance? isn't that just great and the american way? fine upstanding repugnants to hang your hat on. these guys should rank with honest abe and washington, right?

        • 1 vote
        #351.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:43 PM EST

        LMAO, you made the statement that you can't back up!

        If you were a good anti-American progressive obama troll you would be able to twist something!!!!

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        #351.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:45 PM EST

        gary k ---- prove any statement i made was wrong. do you have any comments about the crotch bros screwing their siblings out of their inheritance? the american way. right? maybe the repugnant way. right?

          #351.5 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:58 PM EST

          I can play your silly azz game for a while You spewed this dribble "gary k ---- soros has done more to help the middle class than your koch bros." Can you remember that far back???

          Like I said you can't back up anything pertaining to soros doing anything the middle class.

          Then you began your anti-American progressive twist just like all of obama's obidient troll's!!!!

          I have no problem with your comment pertaining to the koch bros!!!

          • 1 vote
          #351.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:19 PM EST

          gary k ----- you just reveled what you're about. i would be very willing to bet that there is not a person that would say i'm in any way shape or form anti-american and then be willing to take a lie detector test afterward. i've taken the oath of allegiance in the past and did it without any reservation. i would have bought you a beer in the past, even though we disagree. now i think i would pass on that.

          • 1 vote
          #351.7 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:26 PM EST

          I'm not looking for your acceptance, you made a ridiculous statement regarding soros, that you can back up. I have no use for obama troll's whether they are totally backing his efforts to destroy this country or just lazy troll's!!!!!

          I took an oath myself in 1963!

          • 1 vote
          #351.8 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:43 PM EST

          gary k ---- i've never heard of soros trying to cut middle class wages or benefits. the koch bros are all for that. i guess 25 billion apiece still leaves them thirsty. they can never get enough.

          • 1 vote
          #351.9 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:05 PM EST

          gary k ---- c'mon gary, we both know the koch's have donated huge amounts of money for anti-union causes. they look at the middle class as $hit under their heels. btw maybe not a beer but i'd probably buy you a martini. i always like a good argument.

          • 1 vote
          #351.10 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:19 PM EST

          It appear's that you have read a lot about soros, so I expect you are either unaware of the long list of communist and socialist that obama associates with, pg13 342.1, or it really doesn't bother you. As you can guess it bothers me.

          At this point in this game the Koch Bros. are capitalist, I would rather work within a broken capitalist system, in an effort to clean it up. I am opposed to turning this country over to communist/socialist that despise our exceptional nation!!!!

            #351.11 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:22 PM EST

            MPH I neglected to tell you I am as anti union as the Koch's!!!!!!

              #351.12 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:30 PM EST

              gary k --- i see where you are coming from. i don't fear a little bit of mixture of socialism and capitalism. it seems to work for the benefit of people in some other countries and they happen to have a higher standard of living than we do. it's when people lump communism, marxism, and other isms with socialism that they get confused. we have social security and medicare and they both help a lot of people. some socialism is not always a bad thing. throwing all of them in the same bag is not being honest.

              • 1 vote
              #351.13 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:43 PM EST

              For you to infer that I don't the difference in ism's, I find quite ignorant on your part.

              Especially, when like I say you are either to lazy to research obama's friend's and associates our you are totally aware of these people and are in league with their efforts to destroy this country, you wouldn't be alone.

              I expect we will have to wait it out, ten more months, to find out the future direction of this nation.

                #351.14 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:54 PM EST

                gary k ---- i didn't imply that you didn't know the difference between the various isms. a lot of people throw them all in the same bag. i really don't believe obama wants to harm this country. i believe he is as american as both you and i. i've worked with blacks all my life and most of them wanted the same thing as we do. a roof over our heads, food on the table and being able to raise and educate our children and being able to live in peace. the only black or white person i fear is one holding a gun on me.

                • 1 vote
                #351.15 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:11 PM EST

                "it's when people lump communism, marxism, and other isms with socialism that they get confused." (?)

                I don't want obama's obamazuela!

                  #351.16 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:19 PM EST

                  gary k ---- i like you anyway. even if you are a piss ant. happy new year!

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                  #351.17 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:35 PM EST

                  ROFLMFAO!!!!!!

                    #351.18 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:37 PM EST

                    I appreciate every dollar the Koch's give to fight against the scourges of marxism (aka the Democratic Party) along with marxist unionism.

                    Unionism is antithetical to liberty and I am happy to see it disappear from our country.

                      #351.19 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:00 PM EST
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                      Any Iowan who votes for Ron Paul should be examined for mental illness. Iran is justified in closing the straits of Hormuz? That is sheer insanity and Dr Paul says it is justified.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#352 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:54 PM EST

                      Re:Ray!

                      And why does Iran want to close the straits of Hormuz?

                        #352.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:44 PM EST
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                        Gingrich and Bachman need to get a motel room if between them they have enough money.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#353 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                        ray --- i think i'd shell out some dough to see gingrich and bachman in this lurid scene. it should be good for laughs if nothing else.

                        • 1 vote
                        #353.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:16 PM EST

                        Ray - If they did nothing good would come of it.. basically the same thing if either because president.

                        • 1 vote
                        #353.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:37 PM EST
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                        Yeah, they are going to try and commit vote fraud in Iowa. They are going to secretly move the ballot boxes to an undisclosed locations and fix the outcome and steal the win from Ron Paul.

                        This is why they are coming up with the fake polls. Santorum can barely raise 100k dollars in a week and people are supposed to believe he is 3rd place? Give me a break and stop insulting the intelligence of millions of people!

                        up vote this comment!

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                        Reply#354 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:18 PM EST

                        Huckabee won the last time, who cares if Ron Paul wins Iowa...

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                        #354.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:40 PM EST
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                        America is afraid of the truth

                        America is afraid of Ron Paul

                        The truth hurts...

                        Ron Paul 2012

                          Reply#355 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:46 PM EST

                          bobo - No doubt, I'm afraid of Ron Paul....but not from the truth.. he would literally destory the economy within a year.. If a Republican is to win I'd prefer it be him because I'd want the American people to see how fast someone could actually destory the country....and he'd do it in such fine fashion..

                          We'd never recover..

                          • 2 votes
                          #355.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:52 PM EST

                          Obama has already destroyed the economy and your country...

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                          #355.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:56 PM EST

                          bobo - How soon we forget the economy crashed in 2008, months before he was elected. And that the 14 million out of work came from that...and so did all the deficits..

                          And now that the economy is showing some signs of imporvement you want hand it over to Paul so the destruction from 2008 becomes total and final...

                          Where do people like you come from? What planet... Surely no education, please tell me you don't have any higher learning...restore some faith for me..

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                          #355.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:10 PM EST

                          RE: Don!

                          America Becoming A Food Stamp Nation?

                          A the economy struggles and unemployment increases, many people both employed and unemployed are turning to food stamps.

                          Since 2007, the amount of people who use food stamps has increased by 74% and almost 15% of the population uses food stamps.

                            #355.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:17 PM EST

                            bobo - Thanks to the GOP...You have problems with that many on food stamps maybe you should blame the guys that unemployed the 14 million, it surely didn't happen under Obama. if you haven't figured that out yet.

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                            #355.5 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:31 PM EST

                            Bobo - Let me make this perfectly clear, so anyone in the GOP can understand it.

                            If I have a gun and shoot you, then hand the gun to the guy next to me, who shot you? Me , or the guy I gave the gun too.

                            Well, in the case of 2008, the GOP had the gun, shot you, and gave the gun to Obama, and said, "hold this for a few minutes, we'll be right back."

                            That make it any clearer? No matter how long it takes to recover, they shot you.

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                            #355.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:37 PM EST
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                            Wasn't Newt telling everybody a few weeks ago he had this thing wrapped up looking at the polls. Boy did he underestimate the ruthlessness and backstabbing of the GOP he taught then in the 1990's.

                            Didn't he also tell us Freddie Mac paid him $1.6 million for history lessons.. charge of the house during the repeal of Glass- Steagall. Wonder why he doesn't claim that as somethings he's done, he's already compared himself to Winston Churchhill and Ronald Reagn..

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#356 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:47 PM EST

                            I suppose they look on Newtie as an "untrue conservative".

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#357 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:52 PM EST

                            Question?

                            Who are the most racist in America?

                            Answer

                            97% of Blacks voted for Obama, 42% of whites voted for Obama.

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                            Reply#358 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:58 PM EST

                            bobo - They voted for Obama not out of hate but out of hope. Funny thing what slavery and being the down trodden will do for some.. No, doubt, many voted for him because of his color.....but many voted for him because he was brilliant.. Many, myself included didn't think he could win because of his color but I was wrong. He's truly brilliant in this particular case regardless of the reason, the 97% of the black vote was dead on correct.

                            And in case you didn't know , of those 42% that were white that voted for him, here's a little spin on that. 63% of the educated whites voted for Obama, while the uneducated white vote went with McCain.

                            Now you know why Obama is trying so hard to help people get a better education.

                            BTW....what grade did you finish? I'm curious, sounds like you were one of the 37% of the white vote that didn't vote for him....which if the polling statistics are true, says you probably are not educated beyond the 12th grade..

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                            #358.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:16 PM EST

                            RE:Don

                            You say that Obama is trying so hard to help people get a better education, LOL...

                            Obama does not care you idiot...

                            Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read


                            DETROIT (WWJ) – According to a new report, 47 percent of Detroiters are ”functionally illiterate.” The alarming new statistics were released by the Detroit Regional Workforce Fund on Wednesday.

                            WWJ Newsradio 950 spoke with the Fund’s Director, Karen Tyler-Ruiz, who explained exactly what this means.

                            “Not able to fill out basic forms, for getting a job — those types of basic everyday (things). Reading a prescription; what’s on the bottle, how many you should take… just your basic everyday tasks,” she said.

                            “I don’t really know how they get by, but they do. Are they getting by well? Well, that’s another question,” Tyler-Ruiz said.

                            Some of the Detroit suburbs also have high numbers of functionally illiterate: 34 percent in Pontiac and 24 percent in Southfield.

                            “For other major urban areas, we are a little bit on the high side… We compare, slightly higher, to Washington D.C.’s urban population, in certain ZIP codes in Washington D.C. and in Cleveland,” she said.

                            • 1 vote
                            #358.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:25 PM EST

                            bobo - Change the story...brilliant GOP tatic. Fact is, he's made it much easier for students to go to college, black and white. That's a fact...the problem is he can't get you to go...how much better off we'd be if you just got and education..

                            • 1 vote
                            #358.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:41 PM EST

                            don --- right on. that was enjoyable.

                            • 1 vote
                            #358.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:54 PM EST

                            RE: Don!

                            Obama has made it much easier for students to go to college, black and white, LOL, you are one stupid brainwashed dumb American Obama lover. Bend over Don, Obama is about to give it up your A$$SS again and again, and again

                            Public College Costs Surge 8.3 Percent

                            The College Board reported today that average in-state tuition and fees at four-year public colleges surged 8.3 percent this fall

                              #358.5 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST

                              bobo - That would be one educated brainwashed dumb American Obama lover. Problem is you really can't say that now, can you?

                              You see, I'm educated degrees, in Business and Economics, ran a organiztions with a 150 million dollar budget, employed 1600 employees, fortune 500 company. I have the education and experience to understand what's going on in this country, and what's needed to fix it. I can also distinguish between someone that understands and can compehend the complexities of how the economic system works. I'm also one of the 1%ers...

                              Now those are my creditials. Yours... impress me...

                              You on the other hand bring up stuff like college costs rising as if Obama had something to do with it, or could do something about it. What he has done is made more grants and loans available to students who want to attend school, and made the payback terms better. He also got the banks out as middlemen to provide more students with loans.

                              The rise in college tuition is due to lack of funding by the states and the need for the colleges to stay solvent. States don't have the revenues just like the federal govt due to the Bush polices that crashed the economy in 2008. Those 14 million out of work, yea, started in 2008 bottomed out once the stimulus took effect. Yep, 2008, months before Obama took office. And don't be so naive to believe this would be fixed in 3 years.

                                #358.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:03 PM EST
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                                Oh, Newt... You really shouldn't have lambasted Ron Paul. Look at your poll numbers now... Tsk, tsk, tsk...

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                                Reply#359 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:02 PM EST

                                Larry Robinson-1323081 and Gary K-2697770 say what you will but there is nothing you can say to hide the truth about what the GOP is. GWB sent our troops on a wild goose chase that cost us over 4000 lives. GWB hide the cost of these war and President Obama put the cost on the table and that alone added 2 trillion dollars to the deficit and that is his fault. yeah right. I don't know how many family member you have with pre-existing conditions, but ask them if they can leave their current jobs and still be covered.

                                As my handle states I have served and so has many of my family. I have a brother who was in Nam and is living through the effect of agent Orange. The only place he can get care is the VA hospital, is that fair that he fought for this country but this country will not allow him to get insurance. NO.

                                I have a daughter that came down with MS like so many other vets coming back from Afgan and Iraq they also can't get insurance. Repeal Obamacare but have nothing to replace it with but a bunch of talk. yeah right.

                                How can you allow the GOP to say they are for the people, yet they continue to play games with people lives but failing to pass bills until the last minutes.

                                Say what you will the GOP is full of crap. President Obama will win re-election and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

                                And what about the Koch brothers and all the other hidden backers that are trying to buy this election.

                                Get real. If you really cared about this country, you would be worried about who is behind the scenes pull the GOP strings. I am a middle class retired vet, how long I stay middle class will depend if the top 1% that owns the GOP get their way. If they do most likely I will join the poor. GOP could care less about the middle class.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#360 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:20 PM EST

                                MSGT; Thanks for your and your families service!! I fear you are whipping a dead horse talking the truth to these rightwing wackos!!

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                                #360.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:36 PM EST

                                MSGT - A little story about Larry. He doesn't believe in health care. He administers himself, broken bones, stitches, does it all. Doesn't believe in it, doesn't belong. He has a brain tumor, his wife will open him up and fix it.. If he's involved in a car crash, has internal injuries, and out and paramedics show up and take him to the hospital and fix him, that's your problems, if they'd have just given him a few minutes he'd have come to and taken care of himself. That is what he believes.

                                He also doesn't believe there's a single country in the world that has a system of government he likes. What he wants is a return to 1776, literally...

                                Nice guy, fun to talk to, and intelligent in some ways, but out there.

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                                #360.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:07 PM EST

                                GWB sent the troops in on a wild goose chase??? Look's like a good number of your progressive liberal's agreed. Your cr*p don't fly.

                                In the house, 215 Republicans voted Yes, 6 No and 2 Present; 81 Democrats voted Yes, 126 No (61% of the delegation) and 1 Present; the sole Independent voted No. The final vote was 296 Yes (69% of the House), 133 No, and 3 Present.

                                In the senate, 28 Democrats voted Yes (56% of the delegation, including Senators Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, Biden, Bayh, and Daschle) and 22 voted No; 49 Republicans voted Yes and one voted No (Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island).

                                I appreciate your service but I do not appreciate an anti-American progressive in the white house!!!

                                You apparently comfortable with obama's communist friends and associates, I am not!

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                                #360.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:09 PM EST

                                ah gary k, more nonsense. obama hates america! commies! marxists! blah blah blah.

                                please adjust your tinfoil, the UN might be able to monitor your brainwaves! lol.

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                                #360.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:14 PM EST

                                Gary K. And they were lied too to get them to go along. That's the part you forget to tell. How many would have voted for the war if they were told there wasn't any weapons of mass destruction.

                                My guess, total different outcome on that vote.

                                • 2 votes
                                #360.5 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:17 PM EST

                                gary also conveniently forgets that congress can't send inthe troops, only the president does. His feeble attempt to somehow make this not bush's fault is funny.

                                • 2 votes
                                #360.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:19 PM EST

                                Don, they were all given the same information!

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                                #360.7 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:25 PM EST

                                MSG- your brother should be part of the Nehmer v US Department of Affairs lawsuit so I'll call BS on that. "The only place he can get care is the VA" okay so what's wrong with that?

                                your daughter should've either stayed in or made plans for health care when she got out, she didn't "come down" with MS There's too many studies out there that would show otherwise. I guess it's possible but it's improbable.

                                nationalmssociety.org/about-multiple-sclerosis/what-we-know-about-ms/what-causes-ms/index.aspx

                                I've had a couple of Aunts who died from MS. My cousins are quite knowledgeable on the subject.

                                I do care about this country and I do care about who's pulling the republican strings I also am aware enough to watch who's pulling the democrats strings too, the right and the left are now the middle.

                                  #360.8 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:40 PM EST

                                  1SGFitzsWife4ID call BS if you want but you were not here when they pull a tumor the size of a baseball from my brothers head the first time. Only to have it grow back and need another surgury 2years later for another tumor in the same place. And how many veterans will have died by the time that lawsuit makes it through all the channels.

                                  Also no one on either side of the family has ever had MS. Also the air force force her out medically because of the MS. You need to check you facts and see just how many Gulf War vet has come down with MS. Also if you would read the very first line of the link you provided maybe you will understand what you don't understand. Just like you I care about this country, however I am wise enough not to buy off on just what the Republican are saying. Because most of it is BS. If just one would say that President Obama took over a mess from Bush then maybe I would listen. But they are all trying to blame this mess on President Obama.

                                  Where are jobs the GOP promise? Our jobs have been heading overseas since Reagan days. The rich have gotten richer while the middle class has become poorer. There is no trickle down effect.

                                  The GOP is done for. And a lot of people are very aware of what the GOP has done to this nation. You can try and twist things around but if you really wanted to know the truth you can easily find it out from many of the neutral websites out there.

                                    #360.9 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:45 PM EST

                                    Oh and one last thing. Come to the VA hospital here in Houston and then ask that question about what is wrong with the VA hospital.

                                      #360.10 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:47 PM EST

                                      I totally agree with you Ret MSgt,I would rather take my chances in a back alley from a witch doctor then the go to the VA.My uncle was in the Korean War and ended up with frostbite.They discharged him and he went to the VA.This is where the debacle starts.They said that gangrene had set in and they had to remove his toes.After about six months he went back and they said it had spread so they took his leg off .He thought that was the end of it, but it was within nine months he was back at the VA and was told the gangrene had spread and there was nothing that could be done.He passed away three months later.I did one tour in Vietnam and lived to tell about it,but as far as going to the VA not ever going to happen,not even if my life depended on it.

                                        #360.11 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:34 PM EST
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                                        How anyone can vote for Rick "Ass Clown" Perry is utterly beyond me.
                                        The man is an absolute buffoon !!!
                                        (Oh wait - I forgot - in Republican circles being dumb is an admirable attribute)

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                                        Reply#361 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:00 PM EST

                                        That's BS Tx and you know it, but I agree with your how anyone would think to vote for Rick Perry is utterly beyond me too! We have to look at it this way, most people don't realize that our Governor really holds no power in our state (believe me even as a conservative I still don't understand why this asshat keeps getting elected, but maybe that's WHY he keeps getting elected? he's a buffoon with NO power so it's better to keep him in so more damage can't be caused?)

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #361.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:46 PM EST
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                                        Americans are not yet suffering enough to support the revolution in government that needs to take place. Ron Paul would fix the problems, but would fundamentally change America in the process. America will only be ready for that kind of radical change when it becomes obvious that we have no choice. Give us another ten years, and our new dictator will impose changes. I mourn for the impending collapse of America.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#362 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:02 PM EST

                                        You want suffering, elect Ron Paul... you couldn't elect a more dangerous person, nutty just doesn't do him justice.

                                        His domestic policy is plain wacko...eliminate the fed? Of F$#$k.... The only thing I agree with him on is troops in Europe and Japan, I'd pull them all out...they can support themselves...

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                                        #362.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:12 PM EST

                                        Don,

                                        If we do NOT make dramatic changes in the way we have done things for the past 50 years, then America is heading for a traumatic collapse --- and then you cannot imagine the suffering.

                                          #362.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:47 PM EST
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                                          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"The Tea-ReTards was started by the Koch Cult and white Supremacists haters."<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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                                          Reply#363 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:14 PM EST

                                          YOU, PAUSA, are the hater.

                                            #363.1 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:21 PM EST
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                                            The real winner will be the one the Media trashes or dislikes..That means, that Candidate is the better choice....and I could care less about how the Iowians vote, a State of Farm Subsidies if you ask me, just as bad if not worse as the Welfare City States like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles...So how those Farmers vote means absolutely nothing to me, their Votes have been bought....

                                              Reply#364 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:04 PM EST

                                              to each and all. the best of everything. happy new year.

                                                Reply#365 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:41 PM EST

                                                Ron Paul provides a stark alternative to Mitt Romney.

                                                Ron Paul would have America refrain from trillion dollar, no win wars; Mitt Romney boasted that he has defining his foreign policy the same neocons who advised George Bush, the neocons who currently agitate for war with Iran.

                                                Ron Paul empathizes with middle America, having sounded the alarm for years over the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank owners ability, by alternately producing inflation and deflation, to progressively transfer wealth from persons who produce goods, provide services and run businesses to persons who extract wealth by financial machinations (Thomas Jefferson and others have long pointed this out). Mitt Romney seems to take great pride in having amassed considerable wealth at the expense of many Americans who lost jobs and whose families suffered. Mitt Romney is heavily favored by Wall Streeters.

                                                Romney looks like a Bush clone. His advisors confine Mitt's speech to carefully scripted lines and they keep away interviewers whose probing questions would expose Mitt's ignorance. Mitt's warmongering, greedy puppet-masters keep a low profile, lest the public be tipped to their plans for more war and for a return to business as usual on Wall Street.

                                                So, if you want another trillion dollar, no win war, like the Bush-Cheney wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; and if you want another financial meltdown and deepening recession greater than Mr. Bush's Great Recession from which we are still reeling, vote for Mr. Romney. 

                                                If you do not want more war and a deeper recession, consider the un-Bush alternative:  Ron Paul

                                                  Reply#366 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:45 PM EST

                                                  All you people who say Ron Paul does not a a foreign policy you are wrong. It is called "Russian" Roulette.

                                                    Reply#368 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:14 PM EST

                                                    DR RON LANDSLIDE

                                                    media discredited
                                                    polls discredited
                                                    independents
                                                    Cell Phones
                                                    new voters

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                                                    Reply#369 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:38 PM EST

                                                    Let's put it this way. I firmly believe Obama is out of the White House, Romney is the perfect representative for Corporate American profiteers, and Gingrich & Santorum are supporters of the existing Establishment...the corrupt status quo. We really don't need more of those same kind of people in our government. We need a government that represents us, the people.

                                                    This time around it will be an individual that wins the election NOT a political party. And we will owe him a Senate and Congress filled with men/women who support his platform...no matter what their Party affiliation..

                                                    When that man becomes President he will undoubtedly pose a serious threat to the status quo, and his life will be at risk. I wish him well.

                                                      Reply#371 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:34 PM EST

                                                      Thank you for your thoughts-------------President Obama---2012-----------

                                                        #371.1 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:29 AM EST
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                                                        Romney flip flops more then a fish out of water.

                                                          Reply#372 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:58 PM EST

                                                          This is getting very old about Romney being a flip flopper. I said this time and time again, all politicians are flip floppers, Obama is king of flip floppers. If this is the only thing you can say about Romney, then I think it is a good thing for him. If he has the knowledge and experience in the private sector to turn things around and undo the anti business policies created by Obama, then he is a great candidate.

                                                            #372.1 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:17 AM EST
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                                                            Romney is the only one out of this bunch that could not be considered a nutball wacko. The rest have alienated a majority of American voters. The only thing Romney has to his credit is the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic games. We really don't need a rich white boy representing the 1 per cent right now. Maybe Obama isn't perfect, but he's done a fair job up to now under the circumstances. He's kept the peace. We couldn't take another war and repeat the mistakes of the Iraq war. We don't need another idiot Republican president like Bush. We don't want any more good Americans dying in another trillion-dollar boondoggle war. We need a president who will choose diplomacy over bravado and ego. We don't need another George W. Bush.

                                                              Reply#373 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:28 AM EST

                                                              He's kept the peace?? Are you kidding? He has been a failure domestically and internationally when it comes to keeping the peace. Domestically, he has done a great job dividing the two parties against each other more than any other President. Internationally, he is a laughing stock. The way he betrayed Israel and increased tensions in Israel? The war on Afghanistan is on his watch, this is Bush's Iraq. I can see how keeping the peace in the Middle East really works. The world is laughing at us because of Obama's weekness. And Iran is very close to building a nuclear bomb. What will Obama do? Say to Iran, "Please do not build a nuclear weapon, pretty please? Just like he said, "please give us back our drone, we would like it back?" Yeah, I am sure they are saying f--- you to him. He is an embarrassment. We certainly do not need a president who is week on all issues.

                                                                #373.1 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:55 AM EST

                                                                Dee....your stuff is drivel. GW attacked Iraq claiming it had WMD's while North Korea and Iran were each years ahead of Sadaam so don't call anyone a "laughing stock" who had to deal with that mess. Your post is an "embarrassment" to any objective line of thinking.

                                                                  #373.2 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM EST
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                                                                  nice try from fox news------------------President Obama 2012

                                                                    Reply#374 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:01 AM EST

                                                                    Sorry, maybe I should watch msnbc or some other liberal news station, their ratings are so much better. LOL!! Don't know how they are still operating with little to no viewers.

                                                                    Obama in 2012, sorry, won't happen. He's had a chance, blew it. The majority will not give him a second term.

                                                                      #374.1 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:06 AM EST
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                                                                      Where was Romney during the draft in the Vietnam War?---His Daddy sent him too France for 30 months as a Morman Missionary. How nice of his Dad.

                                                                        Reply#375 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:10 AM EST

                                                                        Who cares what Romney did 30 or 40 yrs ago. How is this relevant??? I care about what he will do now. What he will do to undo Obama's anti business policies and get people back to work. He has some great ideas. You should read about his well thought out and intelligent plan on turning the economy around instead of infatuating about his mormonism. I could care less about that!

                                                                          #375.1 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:16 AM EST

                                                                          Dee...Romney's "well thought out" plan to turn the economy around is the same as Donald Trump's...that is....big fat tax cuts for the wealthy....cause it worked so well for the last 10 years.

                                                                          Yeah...why care about his avoiding the draft.....he had bigger plans....plans that involved his own bank accounts...to have cared enough about our national security...right? Sure...that doesn't matter now...just like the decisions he'll make in the white house....he'll be sure to walk away a richer man....without caring what happens to the nation. He's a lacky to the 1% of the 1%ers.

                                                                          Your stuff is drivel.

                                                                            #375.2 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:31 PM EST
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