Court schedules Jan. 13 hearing for Perry's Virginia primary challenge

A hearing on the request from Texas Gov. Rick Perry for a federal court order to place him on the Virginia primary ballot has been scheduled for Friday, Jan. 13th in Richmond before Judge John Gibney, Jr.

Lawyers for Perry claim that Virginia's stringent requirements to qualify for the ballot froze him out of the March 6 primary.

"Because of the overly burdensome and unconstitutional requirements" of the state's election law, they argue, he was "unable to obtain a sufficient number of signatures from qualified voters to qualify for the Republican Party presidential primary ballot in Virginia. If either the state-residency requirement for petition circulators or the threshold amount of signators is constitutionally unenforceable, plaintiff should be certified for the March 6, 2012 Republican Party primary ballot."

The state requires that those who circulate petitions must be either registered to vote in the state or qualified to do so. Such a rule, however, prevents candidates from using out-of-state volunteers to gather signatures. And Perry points out it prevents even presidential candidates themselves from gathering signatures on their own petitions, unless they happen to be from Virginia.

The court must act soon, Perry argues, "because the deadline to print ballots is in the next two or three weeks."

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But Rick, what about 'states rights'.....

Oh, states rights only if you agree...otherwise NO!

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Reply#1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:03 PM EST

The “States’ Rights” guy points to Federal laws in saying Virginia cannot make their own laws and rules.

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#1.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:07 PM EST

If the court doesn't make the right decision, think Ricky will encourage Virginia to secede?

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#1.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:10 PM EST

If the court doesn't make the right decision, think Ricky will encourage Virginia to secede?

Who cares? Judge Gibney never hears this case because Perry will be done after Iowa and New Hampshire.

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#1.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:22 PM EST

Isn't it Rick Perry who advocates for tort reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits? Typical GOP/TP hypocrite, legislates for tort reform but files a frivolous lawsuit; advocates 'States Rights' but sues Virginia because he doesn't like the the state law. Now imagine what he would do when president.

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#1.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:29 PM EST

Virginia to Mr. Perry - "Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on ours."

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#1.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:32 PM EST

Perry Your date is Friday the 13th.

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#1.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:55 PM EST

But, I'm Rick Perry. I'm a TeaPeople. I'm from Texas. I've created more jobs than any other state. I've got swagger. I'm dumber than a rock.

My name is Slick Rick....and I approve my BS!

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#1.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:57 PM EST

Perry Your date is Friday the 13th.

    #1.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:58 PM EST

    Obama, Romney and many others have never failed to get on the ballot in Virginia, it's not like they just made these rules. Shucks Rick I reckon old Tex Dufus will not be on the ballot, since he can't rodeo with the real cowboys, somebody put another quarter in Ricks hobby horse he is getting cranky. Yee haw giddy up, alrighty yawl feel better now Rick, hold on tight, you are about to fall off, opps there goes his hat.

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    #1.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:13 PM EST

    Does anyone know how many signatures Perry was short of the required 10,000?

      #1.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:49 PM EST
      Reply

      I see our President wants another 1.2 Trillion to add to our credit line.

      I hope he runs on this issue.

      Nobody in Washington seems to get it.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:08 PM EST

      Will the Tea Partiers tell us once again that they'd rather see us default? S&P just loved that last time. I'm sure they'll love to hear it again.

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      #2.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:10 PM EST

      WCA,

      Not to be mean, but, what does your comment have to do with this thread?

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      #2.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:11 PM EST

      It seems that you don’t understand what even Paul Ryan does – his budget balancing budget added 6 trillion dollars to the National Debt before starting to reduce the debt.

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      #2.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:14 PM EST

      I see our President wants another 1.2 Trillion to add to our credit line.

      Now you're over here spreading your manure... eh?

      The President has nothing to do with it!

      See, here's the problem with your comment - this was negotiated during the debt ceiling debacle last August!

      Which is WHY, Congress has NO choice but to write the check... while I watch you simmer! lol

      PS: Tell us again how you never bitch about FR?

      What a tool fool you are!

      • 9 votes
      #2.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:17 PM EST

      Old Slick Rick didn't do his home work, and he wants to be President.

      • 4 votes
      #2.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:30 PM EST

      Phine .. no need to apologize for being mean. After all, it is what many a white collar worker does; deflect, fabricate, deceive. Who are the representatives of Wall Street, banking, insurance, and corporations? White collar workers!!

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      #2.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:44 PM EST

      That's not mean, phine. It's a fair question.

      I'm bored.

      Of course it was negotiated in the last debacle. It's a shame that just because the check can be written, that no one is doing anything to try to stop from having to write the check.

      Feisty, a long time ago, when I first started posting here on FR I called you a name and later apologized for it.

      I would appreciate it if you could refrain from calling me names here. It makes you look childish.

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      #2.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:48 PM EST

      WCA,

      “no one is doing anything to try to stop from having to write the check”

      Just during this year over 1 trillion dollars has been cut from spending with at least another 1.2 trillion that will be cut, one way or another. The President wanted 4 trillion dollars cut but Boehner wouldn’t go along … for whatever reason.

      • 9 votes
      #2.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:56 PM EST

      " We got 98% of what we wanted." John Boehner Still looking for that 2% ,WCA?

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      #2.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:27 PM EST
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      Out of one side of his mouth, Perry bemoans the unfairness of Virginia's election laws...then from the other, pushes for voter ID requirements to stem the epidemic of voter fraud! Sounds to me like Virginia is trying to prevent CANDIDATE fraud. If you can't drum up enough interest in the state to get the required signatures, are you any kind of viable candidate?

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      Reply#3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:11 PM EST

      The rules in Virginia are not new...they were there for the past 3 Presidential elections. If folks like Hoss and Newton aren't able to fulfill the requirements to appear on the primary ballot that's their problem and not Virginia's problem.

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      Reply#4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:16 PM EST

      Seems strange that only this year's crop of GOP candidates couldn't master Virginia's ballot requirements. I don't recall hearing complaints in prior years about how "stringent" VA rules are. On the ballot to date are Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. To me Perry, Gingrich failures says more about their staff and the candidates themselves than it does about VA.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:34 PM EST

      Agree Jody but it does seem strange that the candidate for a national office personally can't gather signatures unless he is from Virginia.

        #5.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:42 PM EST

        Rick seems to believe that if you don't like the rules of a game that you are already in......change the rules!

        Is it that he couldn't get enough signatures or he wasn't aware that he needed the signatures...either way, he is a gonner!

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        #5.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:43 PM EST

        See, the thing is, just deciding to run for office does not give the Commonwealth of Virginia jurisdiction over a physical person who could decide to leave Virginia after committing voter fraud.

        We know how important voter fraud is to the GOP and how prevalent it must be amoung people gathering signatures for 4th or 5th string candidates, so it is vital that the person gathering signatures be a Virginia resident.

          #5.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:06 PM EST

          Rocco, not disagreeing but your comment does not explain why no other previous presidential candidates found that to be a problem. Most campaigns have in-state people running things and in-state volunteers doing the leg work such as gathering signatures.

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          #5.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:10 PM EST

          Actually Jody, from what I have read, Newt is a resident of Va. yet he still didn't garner enough signatures. To me, that invalidates Perry's claim that you need to be a resident in order to qualify. With Romney/Paul in as non-residents, Newt out as a resident, and Perry out as a non-resident, I can't see how Perry claim is valid.

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          #5.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:29 PM EST
          Reply

          If you can't get Virginians to circulate your petitions, I don't suppose that it would dawn on you that THEY DON'T WANT YOU!!

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          Reply#6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:56 PM EST

          No, I guess, Virginians don't love Slick Rick enogh to circulate his petitions Auntie just like dirp101 posted!.....

          Show Rick some love........*not*

            #6.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:20 PM EST
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            If the judges give in to him... then its all to clear they are bought and paid for also ...

              Reply#7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:39 PM EST
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