The final push: Romney's 770-mile Iowa sprint

 

MASON CITY, IOWA-- Mitt Romney's campaign schedule for the final four days of his Iowa campaign turns an old axiom on its head.

While veterans of recent bus tours by Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry likely won't be impressed, with 10 stops in three-and-a-half days, and some 770 miles of driving between them, the final stretch amounts to both a both a marathon and a sprint for the Romney campaign.

Touching down Saturday afternoon after a roughly 24-hour New Hampshire detour, Romney will criss-cross Iowa one last time -- putting roughly enough miles on his bus to get from Boston to Columbus, Ohio -- and hitting towns and counties which largely supported him four years ago.

On Saturday, Romney will make two stops in Northwest Iowa -- in Le Mars and Sioux City -- both of which are in counties Romney carried in 2008. Sunday morning, Romney visits Atlantic Iowa, in a county he lost to Mike Huckabee by 6 percentage points. Council Bluffs, where Romney will hold an afternoon rally, is Iowa's second-largest county, and Romney carried it by 11 points in 2008.

Overnight Sunday and into Monday, Romney will travel across the state to campaign in Dubuque and Davenport, on the state's Eastern border -- more friendly territory for Romney. Romney won Davenport's Scott County by 11 points, and Dubuque county by a whopping 23 points.

Monday afternoon the campaign works it's way to Cedar Rapids, where Romney pulled off a 5-point win four years ago, then terminates in Des Moines for events Monday night and Tuesday. It is there, in Polk County, which Romney lost by 13 points last cycle, where Romney will host his final rally and caucus-night event.

In what some see as a sign of the campaign -- and the candidate's -- confidence of a win or a very close second-place finish in Iowa, Romney will overnight in Des Moines, and conduct morning-show interviews there Wednesday -- rather than go straight to New Hampshire.

The campaign's explanation for staying the night? Eric Fehrnstrom, a Romney senior adviser, told NBC's Andrea Mitchell today simply, "We want a well-rested candidate."

Ferhnstrom added Romney will leave for New Hampshire Wednesday -- at a "more sensible hour."

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First thought that popped into my mind is the stereo blasting on his foreign made bus blaring out;

Born to be Wild! lmao

Get your motor running

Head out to the highway...

Looking for adventure...

And whatever comes our way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfvwwPSHCI

The only problem is Willard is about as exciting as a department store mannequin! lmao

*yawn*

  • 18 votes
#1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:20 PM EST

Didn't he once say in a Sunday Parade article that his idea of "getting wild" was a glass of chocolate milk? Shades of the Eisenhower administration!

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:28 PM EST

and can you picture him riding in on a Harley, wearing a leather jacket and not a hair out of place with a sign that reads -

Mission accomplished!........ NOT!

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:30 PM EST

a glass of chocolate milk?

It's the closest he comes to being 'exotic'! lol

him riding in on a Harley, wearing a leather jacket and not a hair out of place

Hanging out the window as they pull into these podunk towns - flashing the *V* sign!

Willard is NO Dennis Hopper! ;o)

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:37 PM EST

I was thinking of a "Magic Carpet Ride" and "Run Mitt Run"

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:39 PM EST

They probably love to listen to some jammin' music on his bus, like "go tell Aunt Rhodie" and "She'll be coming round the Mountain"

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:52 PM EST

They probably love to listen to some jammin' music on his bus

We can be certain it is NOT Bob Marley!

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST

Too bad. I absolutely LOVE Bob Marley!

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:58 PM EST

@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

We can be certain it is NOT Bob Marley!

too bad, I think all of them need a little Rastafarian Jamaican Attitude Adjustment, puff puff give Mittens...

  • 8 votes
#1.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:15 PM EST

I think all of them need a little Rastafarian Jamaican Attitude Adjustment

LMAO!

He better be careful or he just might show an emotion!

  • 9 votes
#1.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:19 PM EST
Comment author avatarwinemaker-4308406Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama played gold today with a buddy who was recently caught for attempting to hire a hooker. Took them seven hours to play 18 holes.

Wonder if the 19th hole was out on the course hiding in the trees? Everyone get a turn?

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:47 PM EST

winemaker That was lame.

  • 13 votes
#1.11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:27 PM EST

In my mind i saw him in the short yellow bus...blasting.. "Didn't we all most have it all"

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:54 PM EST

This race is definitely not the Kentucky Derby ... not a Thoroughbred in the bunch!!!!!

AND ... what's with these old swaybacks ........

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:34 PM EST

I can't resist this...

Lyrics from the Music Man (Broadway 1957, film 1962) written by Meredith Willson (childhood - Mason City Iowa)...

Iowa Stubborn Lyrics

Music: Meredith Willson
Lyrics: Meredith Willson
Book: Meredith Willson and Franklin Lacey
Premiere: Thursday, December 19, 1957

Townspeople:

Oh, there's nothing halfway
About the Iowa way to treat you,
When we treat you
Which we may not do at all.

There's an Iowa kind of special
Chip-on-the-shoulder attitude.
We've never been without.
That we recall.

We can be cold
As our falling thermometers in December
If you ask about our weather in July.
And we're so by God stubborn
We could stand touchin' noses
For a week at a time
And never see eye-to-eye.

But what the heck, you're welcome,
Join us at the picnic.
You can eat your fill
Of all the food you bring yourself.
You really ought to give Iowa a try.

Provided you are contrary,
We can be cold
As our falling thermometer in December
If you ask about our weather in July.
And we're so by God stubborn
We can stand touchin' noses
For a week at a time
And never see eye-to-eye.
But we'll give you our shirt
And a back to go with it
If your crops should happen to die.

Farmer:

So, what the heck, you're welcome,
Glad to have you with us.

Farmer and Wife:

Even though we may not ever mention it again.

Townspeople:

You really ought to give Iowa
Hawkeye Iowa
Dubuque, Des Moines, Davenport, Marshalltown,
Mason City, Keokuk, Ames, Clear Lake
Ought to give Iowa a try!

    #1.14 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:41 PM EST
    Comment author avatarPat-1049305Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    It's all about as cool as Obama riding his bicycle on the streets of Chicago and wearing his "safety" helmet as a college student.

    • 5 votes
    #1.15 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:46 PM EST

    It's all about as cool as Obama riding his bicycle on the streets of Chicago and wearing his helmet

    Typical tea bagger - bitching about personal responsibility!

    Tell us Pat - do you allow your children or your relatives children to ride their bikes without a helmet?

    The SOUR GRAPE stomping contest convenes at noon tomorrow @ tea bagger park!

    Be there or be square sweetie! ;o)

    PS: When all you have in your arsenal is asinine comments like yours... I am confident that President Barack Hussein Obama will WIN another four years, and ultimately cause your little head to EXPLODE!

    • 15 votes
    #1.16 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:52 PM EST

    It's all about as cool as Obama riding his bicycle on the streets of Chicago and wearing his "safety" helmet as a college student.

    Obama didn't go to college in Chicago - 2 years in Los Angeles (Occidental), 2 years in New York (Columbia).

    Thanks for playing...

    • 9 votes
    #1.17 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:56 PM EST
    Comment author avatarPat-1049305Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Look we just love Obama here, he is just too cool. We love him so much I am completely overwhelmed just like I was for Carter and later realised he was the biggest mistake as a President.

    • 3 votes
    #1.18 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:07 PM EST

    Wide-eyed dog strapped on the roof.

    • 1 vote
    #1.19 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:23 PM EST

    Feisty, are you really that delusional? You seriously think Obama has a snowball's chance of winning again the way this economy has tanked with him at the helm? hahahahaha! Stay that way, hon. Because there's going to be a collective "how come we didn't see it coming?" from all you libs Nov 2012!

    • 7 votes
    #1.20 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:35 PM EST

    In a sign of the resilience of the American spirit, people are out there shopping and companies are planning on doing more hiring the first 3 months of 2012. The economy is going to get better IN SPITE of the efforts the Republicans mounted to achieve their Number One agenda Item: Ensuring Obama was a one-term president. Their attempts to tank the economy have failed and the Tea Party members who promised jobs when we elected them in 2010 have been shown to be non-effective NO sayers. As an independent I have been very disappointed that there are not more choices for representation but unfortunately, the party of No has proven to be for a very small segment of society and not at all representative of their constituents.

    • 16 votes
    #1.21 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:47 PM EST

    Fights,

    If you think the economy has tanked under Obama, and was not severely damaged when Obama took office, YOU are the delusional one....

    You will see how wrong you are about America's wishes when Obama wins another term in 2012.

    • 12 votes
    #1.22 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:55 PM EST

    Pat ... Carter "biggest mistake" and you give Bush a pass ... hahahaha ... talk your bs ... nobody with a wee little bit of sense is buying!!!!

    • 6 votes
    #1.23 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:56 PM EST

    R estore
    O ur
    N ation
    P rotect
    A merica
    U nderstand
    L iberty

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:01 PM EST

    newscover: You don't know my thoughts on Bush. But all are clear about Carter's weaknesses especially the Iranians. They may have found a new sucker now though and Carter may be redeemed as only 2nd worse President ahead of you know who.

      #1.25 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:05 PM EST

      So, the Mormon Lion King and ultimate flip-flopper is the GOP's best hopes. What a ridiculous predicament for the Repugs. Obama should win this, even with one hand tied behind his back.

      • 10 votes
      #1.26 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:32 PM EST

      The SOUR GRAPE stomping contest convenes at noon tomorrow @ tea bagger park!

      Be there or be square sweetie! ;o)

      Why do you people "thumbs up" this crap? Its horrible hehe

      • 2 votes
      #1.27 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:12 PM EST

      Mitt Flip Flop Romney, the one time governor of Liberal Mass. Has supported Abortion, Gay Rights, Gun Control, Stem Cell Research and has reverse himself on all of these issues.

      He took both sides on the financial bailout, the stimulus bill, the auto loan package;

      His biggest Flip-Flop of all Health Care Reform The national Law is modeled on the one that he championed as governor in Mass that requires every citizen to have health insurance. Now he has Flipped-Flopped Mr. Flop has taken a hard slide to the right pandering to the tea party.

      Mitt Flip-Flop Romney, a wishy-washy, flip flopping politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another. You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.

      Mitt Flip Flop Romney LMAO!

      • 4 votes
      #1.28 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:26 PM EST

      Witchking

      You are really scare about Romney. Who trust Barry after 3 years?

        #1.29 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:06 PM EST

        @Pat-1049305, Yeah, we all know "Who" and that who had two terms to boot. I guess we can call him King George, although he was really a douche wad though and him and his cronies almost single handedly destroyed this once Great Nation, and the World too. Bush Jr. was, and IS, by far, the WORST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME!!!

        • 8 votes
        #1.30 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:29 PM EST

        Romney pushs...........Santorum surges...................could it get any gayier?

        C'mon GOP get out of the closet! You too Mr. Bachmann.

        Google Santorum, I finally understand the log cabin republicans.

        • 3 votes
        #1.31 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:50 AM EST

        Mocking your own teammates pizza? Seems counter productive

          #1.32 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:43 AM EST

          There has to be a better way to elect a candidate for president. The campaigns are too long. The candidates are to long winded and they have not proved, they are any less inane, as they were a year ago. Besides, shouldn't they being doing the jobs they were elected to do? Most of these politicians haven't done a fair's days work in years. It's all about the election. We could give their seat in government, to some who is jobless.

          With so much technology, I'm sure there are some geniuses, in the Untied States who come up with fool proof method to hold an honest election, that also, would eliminate voter fraud.

          Ten more months of he said, she said, it could be wrapped in a month with out such a waste of money.

          Where's that guy from Wikipedia when you need him?

            #1.33 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:57 AM EST

            Just vote for Williard and let the clownfest be over already....Time to start talking about serious issues, not clown issues. Let's hear Romney vs. Obama and let the adults speak please. RING IN THE NEW YEAR WITH SOME SANITY!!

              #1.34 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:34 AM EST
              Reply

              Hmmm, first Willard says he's not going to go play in Iowa, now he is "sprinting" to the finish. One thing you can always depend on, Willard is not dependable!

              • 11 votes
              Reply#2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:22 PM EST

              Were the roads, all 770 miles, built with Federal dollars?

              Perhaps the folk in Iowa donated their effort, time and money, and built the roads themselves. *sure*

              • 7 votes
              #2.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:34 PM EST

              Chilled,

              Hopefully his bus will hit LOTS of potholes!!!!

              • 3 votes
              #2.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:59 PM EST

              I hope not, my children and I drive those roads! Now an expensive mechanical failure would be fine!

              • 6 votes
              #2.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:03 PM EST
              Reply

              Sing it with me!!!

              "East bound and down, loaded up and truckin',
              a'we gonna do what they say can't be done!
              We've got a long why to go and a short time to get there,
              I'm east bound just watch ol' Bandit run!"

              • 3 votes
              Reply#3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:38 PM EST

              When I was a much younger lass, I thought Burt Reynolds was hot. Now, I am older and lust after George Clooney!

              • 4 votes
              #3.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:49 PM EST

              PHINEPHANCY - Doesn't everyone???

              • 1 vote
              #3.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:29 PM EST

              No! There are other hot guys of all ages to lust after though, hehe.

              • 2 votes
              #3.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:35 PM EST

              Sam Elliot would do just fine...

              • 1 vote
              #3.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:28 PM EST

              That is extremely Sexist of you sisters(well, some of you may be dudes, yikes!) I would never vote for Palin, but I would like to, oh, never mind....... I would get banned if I said it....

              • 3 votes
              #3.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:35 PM EST

              Bryan,

              Is MILF the term that you were trying to come up with, without being banned?

                #3.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:57 PM EST
                Reply

                Is This all the fricken news is gonna be for the next 5 months or so??? Oh Dear God Noooooooooooo!

                • 5 votes
                Reply#4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:11 PM EST

                Don't kid yourself. We have 12 more months of this.

                • 4 votes
                #4.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:43 PM EST

                Don't kid yourself. We have 12 more months of this.

                You got THAT right!

                You have to admit watching the clown car break down is thee best entertainment in town! ;o)

                • 7 votes
                #4.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:56 PM EST

                Love that Feisty avatar...

                • 4 votes
                #4.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 PM EST

                Love that Feisty avatar...

                Why... thank you my friend! Sometimes the truth hurts... ;o)

                • 2 votes
                #4.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:18 PM EST

                I love it too, it would make a great bumper sticker and T-Shirt. Maybe even a Tattoo!!!

                • 3 votes
                #4.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:47 PM EST
                Reply

                Romney leaves a trail of political slime like a garden slug, yet none of the others fight back. Instead they help Romney by trashing each other. The whole slate of candidates is a bunch of determined losers lining up to fall on their faces. Romney will win because he has more faces than the rest combined.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:28 PM EST

                Watching Hardball on TV right now. Interviewing all the guys in Des Moines covering the caucus. It seems they all are having issues finding anyone who is happy with the GOP candidate choices. Welcome to Iowa Guys... a little popcorn to get you thru the circus!!!

                Straight Dem Ticket 2012... first time in my life.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                So much caucus reporting is wrong. The GOP caucus is a secret ballot, it is the Democrats that get in to groups, and require a candidate to reach viability, etc. I'd like to think it is not too much to expect the media to accurately report these procedural matters. But there is NO excuse for flat out incorrect statements. First Read states: "Sunday morning, Romney visits Atlantic Iowa, in a county he lost to Mike Huckabee by 6 percentage points. Council Bluffs, where Romney will hold an afternoon rally, is Iowa's second-largest county, and Romney carried it by 11 points in 2008."

                Really Council Bluffs is Iowa's second largest county? And to think I always thought I lived in Iowa's second largest county. Oh wait a minute I do!!!! I live in Linn County which has been Iowa's second largest county since before anyone on the staff of First Read was born.

                1. Council Bluffs is a city across the Missouri River from Omaha, it is not a county.

                2. Council Bluff's is in Pottawattamie County, which is Iowa's 8th largest county with under 100,000 residents.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:01 PM EST

                @ Hawkeyedemocrat - LOVE the post. I was born and raised in Iowa for 25 years... your post basically shows just how much Romney or any other republican candidate really knows Iowa. Once the caucus is over, they will forget the state ever existed.

                • 2 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:31 PM EST
                Reply

                "RON PAUL", 2012!!!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:30 PM EST

                Don't you mean.. Ron Paul - 1896? That's where he would have been most effective.

                • 5 votes
                #8.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:32 PM EST

                The thought of Ron Paul as President would make me a nervous wreck as well!

                • 4 votes
                #8.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:18 PM EST

                well i would have thought that the NDAA law that allows us citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial would make you nervous. I would have thought that noticing that every supposed "choice" for president that we get just furthers the agenda of the ones before. I am amazed that so many would actually be against the one candidate that supports the constitution and desires to enforce it. One candidate wants to give us back our rights taken away by patriot laws and the such, one candidate that actually cares about our country! I vote Ron Paul. But you guys can go ahead and vote for who the press tells you to vote for. You can bet the one that is promoted by the corporate press is the one that all of corporate America wants you to vote for.

                • 1 vote
                #8.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:32 AM EST

                I wish they'd hurry up and get it over with. Yawn.

                  #8.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:11 AM EST
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                  Comment author avatarteabaggersuxExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  You know what the Mormons do in those special temples? I hear they have sex with minors - now THAT's the kind of family values that will make the GOP proud.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:32 PM EST

                  Hey teabagger, Is that what you heared about Mormons when your cellmate whispered it in your ear when he was mounting you from behind? May you be left for dead after being struck by an by a drunk driving liberal and may your body be devoured and digested by jackels after which the fecal matter that was once you will be made use of by dungbeetles and then and only then will the fertilizer you become actually do any good..... no I take that back.... you in a different form of dung will probobly end up making some sort of noxious weed grow.....

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                  Mormon here. No we don't, that claim is ridiculous.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:05 PM EST

                  I am Methodist , but I live fairly close to Nauvoo where there is a mormon village and a temple. All the ones I have spoken with seem like fine folks. I think Romney is a flake on the issues, but one really shouldn't look at him negatively simply for being a Mormon. Freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this the greatest country on earth.

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:25 PM EST

                  If I lived in Nevada, I'd vote for a Mormon—Harry Reid...

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:36 PM EST

                  @crackerjack-1232642 sounds to me like you spend a great deal of time fantasizing about men on each others backs. I guess that's the way you go huh? But to answer your question I heard this from your wife while she was pulling a train on my football team. She does have a pretty mouth by the way. Glad I pulled your chain. Made my day.

                    #9.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:39 PM EST

                    Ahh Teabag, so easy to get in yo head. I know you fool and if you think about it you know me. I dont have a wife but I'm pretty tight with your mom and since you think of her as my wife that makes sense... I'm kinda like your daddy.... which is better for you than your real dad since he was the first to mount you, I'm only mountin your mom.. I'm thinkin its time to break it off with her though her azz is getting kinda clingy and worn out after sh!ting your head and than taking repeated abuse from me. Pretty sick you fantasize about your mother....parafilic really...... they have a name for that but I wont use it on the public forum ...like I use your mother in public.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.6 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:23 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Whatever it takes, whoever it takes,

                    NOBAMA 2012!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:35 PM EST

                    Thats the republican way no matter what no Obama,kill the economy,don't help the jobless,destroy america whatever it takes no Obama.That is not the american way.If you want or care about our great country the best thing you could do is support your president or just leave.

                    Obama/Biden2012

                    • 9 votes
                    #10.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:47 PM EST

                    When you say whatever or whoever but Obama....you sure got the "whatever" and the "whoever" right! What a bunch of freaks and weirdo's running on the GOP side! This once upon a time republican wouldn't vote for any of these current GOP clowns if you made me eat vomit! The republican party I registered under in 1988 has long since left this world and is somewhere over the rainbow in the land of OZ perhaps.

                    I was what you called one of those moderate republicans that became extinct around the the time of the new century. I think the George W Bush presidency pretty much drove out any sane minded republicans and what you have left is these far right cultist you have today. Don't get me wrong...I am no fan of the way liberal left either, but there biggest faults are that they are earth lovers, people lovers, animal lovers, and wnat to hold hands with the world, etc. Hard to really dislike a group just because they want to have clean drinking water and be free to love and smoke weed. The GOP right on the other hand are all about war, starving the middle class and poor, screw thy neighbor and everybody else that isn't making over 100 grand a year. So as a guy in the middle do you lean towards the folks who love everybody and everything or lean towards the right where they hate everybody but the rich and hate everything about the American government? I think I will side with the lovers!

                    I will most definately be voting for Barack Hussein Obama in 2012!

                    • 12 votes
                    #10.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:12 PM EST

                    Yep, anybody but Obama! We don't need no stinkin' marxists for POTUS!

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:37 PM EST

                    Fights is still a delusional, paranoid Kook.

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:03 PM EST

                    I was a Republican at one time too... until the Republicans started taking such hard-line stances in the name of "convervatism." I have conservative views and I have liberal views but neither are to the extreme. Guess I need to register as an Independent... the only problem is, all I have to vote for are Republicans and Democrats. I know, I know... vote Ron Paul who is really an independent at heart. Cannot do... he is just too "far out there" for me and talking about a President who will get absolutely nothing done with our Congress! That would be Ron Paul. Of course, it looks like nobody is going to get anything done with our Congress anyway... they are REALLY the ones I look forward to getting out of office... every last one of them!

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:09 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Mitt's such a boob

                    He said we're "apologizing too much to the world"

                    Who wouldn't after 8 years of Bush???

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:47 PM EST

                    Better than being a penis like Barry Soetoro.

                    • 2 votes
                    #11.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:46 PM EST

                    Fights, Do you fight with yourself? Since there is no one named Barry Soetoro you must live in a world solely inside your head.

                    • 2 votes
                    #11.2 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:19 AM EST

                    You have got to be kidding me vwterry. Barack was born Barry Soetoro, his named was changed later. Go figure it out, its easy!

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST

                    You would sound even more like an idiotic rightie, Fights, if you referred to the president as "Hussein." Don't hold back, let your stupidity fly!

                      #11.4 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:34 PM EST

                      Born Barack Hussein Obama on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham. Parents divorced when Barack Hussein Obama was 3 years old. Ann Dunham then married Lolo Soetoro in 1966. The family used Mr. Soetoro's name as is customary. Later Barack Hussein Obama went back to his birth fathers name. In 1971 Barack Hussein Obama was sent to live with his grandparents where he was called Barry, a nickname, by his grandfather. At no time in Barack Hussein Obama's life was he called Barry Soetoro until a group of mouthbreathers from the right started calling him that.

                      So I did go figure it out and it was easy.

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.5 - Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:41 AM EST
                      Reply

                      I just watched the movie *Willard* on You-Tube ... yes that *Willard* from way back in 1971 ...

                      *Where your nightmares end ... WILLARD begins.*

                      LOL.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#12 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:50 PM EST

                      Yes Mitt, it's looking like you've got the nomination wrapped, and being the presidential nominee is quite an accomplishment even against the weak field you were lucky enough to face. But pretty soon, Mitt, the fun and games will be over and debating Barack Obama and showing HIM up will be an exponentially harder task than debating the group of clowns you just defeated. Not only is Obama a masterful debater[remember how he took on the entire republican party and made the whole lot of them look like the idiotic scumbags that they are?] but you have had to go so far to the right to win the nomination it will be next to impossible for you to get far enough back to the center to have any chance in the general election. Anyway Mitt, good luck, you'll need it!

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#13 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                      Pretty weak stuff, a campaign that relies more on dissing the current president than on presenting anything workable to take his place.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#14 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:02 PM EST

                      Ron Paul 2012

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:02 PM EST

                      It would be a sad day for the Grand Old Party if Ron Paul and his pack of traitorous conspiracy freaks won anything in the primaries.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:35 PM EST

                      RP is better than any of the other candidates at this current time.

                      • 3 votes
                      #15.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:04 PM EST

                      Ron Paul is a nut. I agree the GOP field is weak, and only Huntsman is palatable, but the idea that Ron Paul is better than any GOP candidate is a joke. After Cain dropped out Paul became the worst candidate running. And no GOP running, or those that stayed on the sidelines come close to President Obama!

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.3 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:11 AM EST
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                      Romney wants Big Bird to sell cereal; the Metropolitan Opera to sell cars or NPR to take bank money, for example. Cut off funding to NEH, NPR, PBS?? How about .5% cut from military or Congressional salaries? Good-bye Romney.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#16 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:06 PM EST

                      Perhaps the Army should hold a bake sale to buy weapons...

                        #16.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:39 PM EST
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                        Haven't seen this before. The big boy republicians don't like any of them. They seem to be settled on Romney, because they have no one else to choose from. "As the world turns"

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#17 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:11 PM EST

                        "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." June 16, Tampa, Fla.

                        -- "Corporations are people, my friend." Aug. 11, Des Moines, Iowa.

                        -- "I consider the CEOs of organized labor not to be my big buddies. I consider the rank and file of organized labor to be my buddies." -- Oct. 10, Milford, N.H.

                        -- "Don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run its course and hit the bottom, allow investors to buy homes, put renters in them, fix the homes up and let it turn around and come back up." Oct. 17, Las Vegas.

                        -- "We went to the company, and we said, 'Look, you can't have any illegals working on our property. I'm running for office, for Pete's sake! I can't have illegals!"' Oct. 18, Las Vegas.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#18 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:11 PM EST

                        Corporations are people. It's funny that the same liberal clowns who use the "government is the people" argument against limited govt types find so much problem with the idea that corporations are people.

                        The CEO's, Vice presidents, managers, accountants, IT guys, janitors, factory workers, salespeople, etc that make up a corporation are people.

                        The people who profit off corporate success are the 150 million plus? Americans who have stocks in corporations, and the people who work for the companies directly.

                        Corporations are people. If you want to argue about their free speech rights, well that's something else, and I'm indifferent to the argument, as long as whatever decision is reached applies to unions and businesses equally. But every corporation is thousands of people working to make a profit that increases the stock prices of stocks held by hundreds of thousands of Americans per company and over a hundred million nationally, including most middle class people with a 401K.

                        • 1 vote
                        #18.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:30 PM EST

                        The stockholders, directors, management, employees, suppliers, customers and any other constituencies of corporations may speak and contribute money as they see fit. Corporations are NOT people, and they should not enjoy treatment accorded to individuals under the law.

                        • 4 votes
                        #18.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:43 PM EST

                        The corporation is a person in that it has to pay taxes based on profits, or in the case of American corporations, dodge them one way or the other.

                        • 2 votes
                        #18.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:16 PM EST
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                        So Winemaker, Do you have any FACTS to back up that remark or are you just homophobic for NO reason?

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#19 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:13 PM EST

                        Two-faced Mittens is talkin' sorta silly in Iowa. Whinin' over "Big Bird", Mittens? Put that on a bumper-sticker, Mitt. Duh!

                        (Maybe that crap works in flyover states...!)

                        BTW: Obama/Biden win big in 2012! No doubt!!

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#20 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:17 PM EST

                        The gloves are off on Flipper from here on out.

                        We all knew he was a spineless jellyfish who would say anything to get elected up till now.

                        But I didn't know he and his minions would stoop to lying about Newt Gingrich's record of opposition to abortion, especially given Romney's past support of the hideous practice himself. And yet, his paid liars are out there trying to say Gingrich is for abortion, because he doesn't believe the mostly imaginary rape-and -incest abortion cases should be outlawed. Meanwhile of course Romney supported abortion period for most of his life, before "seeing the light" about the time he was never going to have to run for office in leftwing Massachusetts again and was preparing to run in the national Republican primaries.

                        I will not support Mitt Romney in the primaries, and I will not vote for him if he gets the nomination. I, furthermore would encourage all Republicans to do the same. Mitt Romney instead of Barack Obama isn't much of a change.

                        Oh, wait, I forgot the big distinction between the two liberals: Romney thinks Obamacare is great for the country, but that states who don't like it should be able to opt out.

                        I wonder in a Romney presidency if we would get 2 more liberal Supreme Court justices or 3.

                          Reply#21 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:25 PM EST

                          I forgot to mention though, in Romney's defense, that he had a strong and believable argument for how he changed abortion positions after his last race in Mass. and before his first GOP presidential run:

                          he "talked to the scientists" and...then he knew it was wrong.

                            #21.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:38 PM EST
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                            These Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks who post on these threads, think that the American people will just do what THEY WISH we all would do and that's simply "ignore" B. Hussein Obama's THREE YEARS OF FAILURE AS POTUS, INCREASE OF AMERICAN JOBLESSNESS AND SPENDING MORE U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY AND DRIVING UP THE FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICIT AND U.S. NATIONAL DEBT, MORE THAN ALMOST ALL THE OTHER U.S. PRESIDENTS BEFORE HIM...COMBINED!!!

                            Now if the U.S. Economy were going great and if the U.S. Unemployment Rate was like 5%, if the U.S. Housing Market was turned around and home values were no longer upside down with their mortgages and home foreclosures were way down and if American workers' salaries were way up and health care and health insurance costs were way down, we all know these Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks would be singing Obama's praises and telling about all his positive accomplishments as POTUS and how B. Hussein Obama saved the American people from former President Bush's horrible "inherited" economy. THEY WOULDN'T BE GIVING FORMER PRESIDENT BUSH THE CREDIT FOR OBAMA'S NOW THREE YEARS IN OFFICE IF THE ABOVE POSITIVE THINGS WERE HAPPENING WITH REGARDS TO THE U.S. ECONOMY, WOULD THEY?

                            So if they wouldn't be giving former President Bush credit if the CURRENT U.S. Economy were going great with all the above things I mentioned, why wouldn't they be giving B. Hussein Obama the credit for making the U.S. Economy WORSE THAN EVER, with his failed policies and presidency IN THREE YEARS...hhmm??!!

                            They foolishly and ignorantly think that THEY ARE in the majority thinking of the American Electorate and that the American Voters next Nov. 6th, 2012 will simply "ignore" B. Hussein Obama's entire FOUR YEAR TERM AS POTUS and just "blame Bush" to re-elect him. Ha!!!

                            I knew there was a lot of recreational drug use amongst the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Left Wing, Democrat Kooks, I just didn't know it was so widespread!!! Anyway, all the more wailing they'll be doing when on Election Night 2012, B. Hussein Obama will be on Int'l TV giving his Concession Speech to the new REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT-ELECT. I can't wait and it can't come soon enough.

                            I'm so tired of this Inexperienced and Unqualified, Socialist/Marxist "Community Organizer" being in the White House and not having a d**ned clue as to what the h*ll he's doing and taking all of his multi-week family vacations b/c he likes to be President, but doesn't like the governing part. What an abject failure the B. Hussein Obama presidency has been. He needs to and will be sent back to Chicago come Election Night 2012.

                            • 5 votes
                            Reply#22 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:26 PM EST

                            Very well said!

                            • 3 votes
                            #22.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:39 PM EST

                            See, the Kooks Flock together....

                            You two will have to keep up the whining and name-calling AT LEAST until 2016, because the idiots and clowns you are going to vote for have NO CHANCE of beating Barack HUSSEIN Obama, LOL....

                            • 4 votes
                            #22.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:08 PM EST

                            Randy your about as dumb and blind as old Foisty.

                            • 1 vote
                            #22.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:24 PM EST

                            Hmmm...Johny Bee sure knows how to whine with weak-azz, juvenile talkin' points. Must belong to the silly 'baggernut noodles. Pathetic!

                            Whine on, JB. Drown in your tears...! I'm "laffing" atcha.

                            BTW: Obama/Biden in 2012! No doubt!!

                            • 3 votes
                            #22.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:25 PM EST

                            Pat,

                            As dumb as you think I am, I have to point out that the correct spelling and pronunciation is "you're" not "your." "Your" shows possession or ownership and "you're" is an abbreviation for "you are." Here is a good example of the proper way to use both: Pat, your post shows that you're a dumbass.......

                            • 2 votes
                            #22.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:57 PM EST

                            • 1 vote
                            #22.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:51 PM EST

                            Talk about a doper. Seems you have been drinking to much of that spiked repuke punch you talking in circles son.We will see who goes home in november you puke

                            • 1 vote
                            #22.7 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:17 AM EST

                            Ah Randy,

                            That would be contraction of "you are" not "abbreviation." Just pointing that out.

                              #22.8 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:25 AM EST
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                              If B. Hussein Obama couldn't handle the job of being POTUS, then he should've never run for it in the first place. I mean this is the Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" who promised that he would cut the U.S. Federal Deficit IN HALF by the end of his first term (He's doubled it in less than THREE YEARS) as POTUS.

                              He promised that his Obamacare, socialized medicine scheme, would decrease the cost of health care and health insurance once passed and since its passage, the cost of health care and health insurance has gone nothing, but UP.

                              B. Hussein Obama also promised he would close down GITMO, which he never did and won't ever do.
                              He also promised that if the U.S. Economy didn't turn around in three years, from him taking office as POTUS, then his presidency would likely be a "one term deal." (See YouTube) Not only has the U.S. Economy NOT TURNED AROUND, but it's gotten exponentially worse since this no-good, inexperienced, unqualified, Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" took office.

                              Now what IS REALISTIC, is instead of making excuses and apologies for "poor ole Barack," why not hold him ACCOUNTABLE for his THREE YEARS OF ABJECT FAILURE AS POTUS??!! If you Left wing, Nut Job Kooks were so wise and knowledgeable in the "truths of life" why would you let this Left wing skunk hold the most powerful office in the world, much less the United States of America, a minute longer than you had, as an American voter, with his FAILED performance on the U.S. Economy as POTUS, so far by voting for him?

                              Neither the Republican party, nor Fox News, nor Rush Limbaugh, nor Sean Hannity, nor Ann Coulter, nor etc. made those promises of JOBS, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS AND HEALTHCARE COSTS BEING REDUCED FOR ALL, B. Hussein Obama made ALL those promises back in 2008.

                              And when B. Hussein Obama made those promises, he never promised the American people, "blame Bush" strategies, he never promised the American people excuses for the U.S. Economy and Joblessness not improving under his non-leadership, he never promised the American people that he would simply demonize and dehumanize his political opponents and/or allow his political cronies to do so, like Jimmy Hoffa Jr., without speaking out against that. He promised the American people Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and at least an improvement in the U.S. Economy, Housing Market and declining property values, that we'd already see AFTER THREE YEARS in the White House. The reason we don't see any improvement in the U.S. Economy is simple, his policies don't work!!

                              Admit it already. B. Hussein Obama is one of the worst U.S. Presidents in the history of this nation and certainly in most of our lifetimes. This guy makes Jimmy Carter looks like a good, sound, fiscal conservative, for goodness sakes. STOP MAKING EXCUSES, HOLD B. HUSSEIN OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN PRESIDENCY. IF THE U.S. ECONOMY WAS GOING REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW, AND JOB CREATION WAS WAY UP, WOULD YOU BE GIVING FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH THE CREDIT FOR IT? OR WOULD YOU BE GIVING B. HUSSEIN OBAMA THE CREDIT FOR IT?

                              SO IF YOU WOULD GIVE OBAMA THE CREDIT IF THE U.S. ECONOMY WERE GOING GREAT RIGHT NOW AFTER HIS THREE YEARS AS POTUS, THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO GIVE HIM THE BLAME FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY REMAINING AWFUL RIGHT NOW AND EVEN BECOMING EXPONENTIALLY WORSE UNDER HIS NON-LEADERSHIP..PERIOD...END OF STORY.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#23 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:28 PM EST

                              Johny Bee not real.

                              Right winged propaganda.

                              Food for Tards and Pubes.

                              This is how the GOP operates, just want to program you with their computer generated messages.

                              • 4 votes
                              #23.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:31 PM EST

                              "Good, sound, fiscal conservative"? Contradiction in terms.

                                #23.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 PM EST

                                Again, very well said!

                                • 2 votes
                                #23.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:40 PM EST

                                Just noticed that you might have left out a few words in your rant like "nazi".."unamerican"..."moma hater"... "kitten killer". I will let you know if I think of any others you missed.

                                That really tells you how bad Bush did and how bad the current GOP field is when people like me are going to vote for that nazi, no birth certificate, socialist Barack Hussein Osama Bin Obama.

                                Yep the puppy kicking... no good...Osama Hannibal Lecter Obama is going to get my vote!

                                • 4 votes
                                #23.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:41 PM EST

                                what would McCain have done differently? this should be good

                                • 1 vote
                                #23.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:13 PM EST

                                Yeah, and when Johny Bee and Fight's cars break down, that is Obama's fault, too. RETARDS....

                                • 3 votes
                                #23.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:17 PM EST

                                Actually no Randy, conservatives take care of themselves, they don't need government to run their lives and give them so-called "freebies" from other taxpayers. Sorry, but its always been the mantra of OBAMA and the libs to point fingers and blame everybody else and Bush for this horrible economy.

                                • 2 votes
                                #23.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:22 PM EST

                                Yo! Johnny Bee!

                                Keep on continuing to spam trolli will you please?

                                It's the quickest way to get you and your sorry ass banned! ;o)

                                Good riddance ass-wipe! lol

                                • 5 votes
                                #23.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:23 PM EST

                                Actually Fights, You are not entirely correct.

                                I voted for Obama because of Bush's handling of things, and because McCain pledged to do the same as Bush. I voted for Clinton when he was elected twice. I did not vote for GW Bush, I am very proud to say. If I had, I would feel partly responsible for the failing economy that you fact-dodgers keep blaming on Obama.

                                I married at 18 years of age and supported my wife and 4 children on my income alone, no help from ANYONE. I bought my house on my one income when I was 24 years old, with my own credit and my own money, NO HELP from friends, family and especially no government help. I paid the full 30 year mortgage and now own the house, paid in full.

                                I am now 57 and hope to collect my social security one day when I retire. Yes, the social security that I HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR since I started working at 16 years of age. As I have been paying all this time, I do not consider social security an entitlement or a handout. If you do, then maybe you should decline to accept it....

                                • 8 votes
                                #23.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:40 PM EST

                                Hi Feisty! You noticed that, too! I've been trying to clean catch up with all the suspensions and reregs since last Thursday. Other than his cut & paste from a RWNJ spam newsletter, his posts remind me of someone...very familiar.....did you already send a report? I haven't checked my email yet ;-)

                                • 3 votes
                                #23.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:01 PM EST

                                Then Randy, you must be a fool. If Obama is re-elected, this country won't be able to recover from this Marxist.

                                • 2 votes
                                #23.11 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:47 AM EST
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                                Mitt: I suppose he's preferable over some. It's difficult to imagine his candidacy stirring up much passion, but I guess Reagan proved that one can generate passion with smoke, mirrors and lack of substance. "I suppose"..."I guess"....seems that that's all I can muster for the would-be Flip-Flopper-in-Chief.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#24 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:28 PM EST

                                I got some news for you Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat Kooks, NOBODY OWES YOU JACK S**T, INCLUDING A JOB!!! It's people like you that put people like our Leftist, Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Democrat, "Community Organizer" President in office in 2008.

                                Stop complaining and being so envious of people who are smarter, work harder and are far more economically successful than you and start working just as hard or harder to make the wealth that they have, if you're so "angry" about them having wealth.

                                And since when does being wealthy in America automatically equal being a crook, as you Left Wing Kooks say? And when does being poor automatically equal being honest & loveable as you say? You all's talking points are coming straight out of the Communist Manifesto pals and the sad part about that is, a lot of no-good, lazy, jealous, and envious Americans like you, just want to simply re-distribute wealth that you've never earned, nor ever deserved. All just to get back at "rich whitey." People who believe as you do are called THE DEMOCRAT PARTY (& their robot minions).

                                If you're tired of being poor and worthless, GO OUT AND START BUSTING YOUR BUTT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. DON'T EXPECT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OR WORSE THE U.S. TAXPAYERS, TO DO IT FOR YOU, YOU MARXIST, SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST SCHLEPS!!!

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#25 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:28 PM EST

                                You're awful tough sitting behind you p.c. punk, be lucky you're not my Neighbor, my wife would kick your a$$

                                • 10 votes
                                #25.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:42 PM EST

                                J.B.: And since when does putting words you made up in the mouths of straw people you invented make you an astute commentator? I may disagree with you, but I'd never claim you're worthless....you're always good for a few laughs.

                                • 7 votes
                                #25.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:44 PM EST

                                Wow, it seems Johny is full of hate today...

                                • 6 votes
                                #25.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:47 PM EST

                                Same Idiot, different day.

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:48 PM EST

                                JB, did you hear of the poll done by a major investment bank in Pennsylvania? The poll revealed that of those who had more than $500,000 to invest, something around 2/3 worked for a living. The rest did not work for a living. In America, it helps to have been born rich.

                                • 4 votes
                                #25.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:11 PM EST

                                Johnny,don't use words you don't understand! nobody has ever given me jack, I went to school on the G.I.bill and I have payed that back many,many time over though income tax,so tell me again how investing in our people is a bad idea. or is it time for your shift at 7-11?

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:20 PM EST

                                Old Vet, I don't accept your claim without proof, but if it were true, most of those not working would be retired people who did work earlier in their lives.

                                It's been proven over and over again that most millionaires aren't born rich. Not having everything you want when you're born gives you more of a inner drive to succeed.

                                • 2 votes
                                #25.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:21 PM EST

                                show me that proof, Chesty

                                • 1 vote
                                #25.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:26 PM EST

                                Wow, it seems Johny is full of hate today...

                                I'm not sure it's hate, but the poor little butt buddy Johnny has his hands full with something going on! ;o)

                                You know what they say about ignorance being bliss and all....

                                • 5 votes
                                #25.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:26 PM EST

                                bs cutter,

                                That reliable bastion of newsmaking The Winona Daily News reprinted a Pittsburg Tribune-Review column by Tom Purcell which cites

                                the 1996 book "The Millionaire Next Door" by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko, [and says] 80 percent of America's millionaires were not born millionaires. They are first-generation affluent.

                                Other fun facts include the number that 95% of the filthy rich pukes making 1 million + make under 10 million so there are few, really really filthy rich pukes.

                                http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/colothers/article_06091c44-0738-11e1-9135-001cc4c002e0.html

                                This has been reported elsewhere online. I can dig up more examples if necessary.

                                  #25.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:58 PM EST

                                  Chesty:The TOP income tax rate is 35%, BUT the 400 "highest" gross incomes in 2007 paid at the rate of 17%, which was down from 26% in 1992. Over that same period the rate for ALL taxpayers declined to 9.3% from 9.9%. With Bush "cuts" & "caps" AND the TAX CODE itself, with its $1.1TRILLION in "breaks", exemptions & "loopholes"; Plus IT lets 45% pay NOTHING! GOP/Tea Party won't touch the TAX CODE?.?With our "newbees", Washington, D.C. has replaced Silicon Valley as the highest per capita income area?.?Let's "AX THE TAX CODE".!

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #25.11 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:19 AM EST

                                  Totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. Your brain must have misfired on this one.

                                  Those billionaires paying "only" 17%, by the way, pay a higher % than 80% of the population. Half pay 0, and most of the rest pay less than 17%, factoring in all deductions and credits.

                                  ...but back to the fact that most millionaires aren't born rich...

                                    #25.12 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:28 PM EST
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