Obama agenda: Still strong with Latinos

“Four-star general-turned-CIA director David Petraeus almost resigned as Afghanistan war commander over President Barack Obama's decision to quickly draw down surge forces, according to a new insider's look at Petraeus' 37-year Army career,” AP writes. “Petraeus decided that resigning would be a ‘selfish, grandstanding move with huge political ramifications’ and that now was ‘time to salute and carry on,’ according to a forthcoming biography.” More: “The book also is peppered with Petraeus quotes that sound like olive branches meant to soothe Obama aides who feared Petraeus would challenge their boss for the White House.”

Political Wire: “In a hypothetical general election match-up against Mitt Romney, a new Pew Research poll finds President Obama wins the Latino vote by a 68% to 23% margin. These results are quite similar to the outcome of the 2008 presidential election, when Obama carried the Latino vote over Sen. John McCain by 67% to 31%.”

The New York Post: “One of the biggest and best-organized campaigns in Iowa doesn’t belong to any of the Republican presidential hopefuls — it’s President Obama’s. While the fight among Republican candidates has received all the attention, Obama’s re-election campaign has quietly put together a massive operation geared toward winning the Hawkeye State in the November general election. Obama also is running in the state’s Democratic caucus Tuesday night, the same night as the Republican contest, and the president will beam a live address to every caucus site.”

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The President's strength in the Latino community is hardly surprising, what with the way the GOP/TP has made them the "boogeyman" for ever ill in this country. Funny part, while the GOP field demonizes them now, how can they, with a straight face go back in November and ask for their vote? Guess the new favorite word of the right is "OOPS"!

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Reply#1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:10 AM EST

Nice try phine,

Republicans are not anti-latino. We are anti illegal aliens and most latino citizens agree that illegal immigration is a huge problem. If you're looking for ethic or religious hatred look left.

I'm sure the redhead will have the word "Morman" in several post today.

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#1.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:19 AM EST

I don't understand the Latino community. Democrats hasn't produced any immigration policies either. The media has demonized this issue sooooo bad as to the general public presume the Repubicans is coming after them and the democrats are there to save the day.

There is a big difference in being anti-Latino and anti-ILLEGAL Immigrant.

Tell me exactly how the GOP has demonized the LEGAL Latino community. The Democrats are pulling the wool over this communities eyes the same as they have done to the black community.

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#1.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:06 AM EST

Middle, exactly why the Latinos are on board with O. They haven't produced any policies and don't intend to at least until after the election if even then. Their only policy is to turn the other cheek. Just as good as an open door policy. I too work with and have friends that are legal citizens and they too are pissed that the present system seems to invite illegals. They are ready to file suit for their money back and restitution should any loose type of "reform" (amnesty) be granted. They want them to have to play by the same rules they did.

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#1.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:29 AM EST

How about when they talk about deporting "anchor babies" deporting illegals is one thing, it is well within the law but many have called for the deportation of kids born here, which like it or not they are US citizens. So you will need to figure something out, because I suspect many will simply say you can deport me but I will leave my children here in the USA, so now what, you going to build some orphanages, you going to put the people you wish to deport in a US prison for child abandonment, you going to give them some kind of amnesty, or will you amend the constitution and make it retro active. The last republican to address this was Ronald Reagan, he decided the best thing was to grant 11 million illegal aliens amnesty. You republicans should be out there talking about that, that it was a Republican president that gave them the big free pass, then maybe republicans would get the support from Latinos they deserve.

    #1.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:29 PM EST

    It's America...where any politician will suffer a loss of votes for discussing anything that has to do with any particular race, not classified with the word "white".

    With all the articles written recently over the Justice Department suing individual states for passing laws that require voter ID at the voting booth...it's impossible to find the word "white"...as if it is not possible that a "white" voter does not possess a photo ID.

    Therefore the oppressive burden of providing a photo ID at the polls only falls on people who are not "white".

    Showing an ID before voting...horrors...and so much ado about nothing.

      #1.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:55 PM EST

      Showing an ID before voting if only it was that easy! Please! They are redistricting so that people have to travel 45 minutes or more to get to a voting poll their now suppose to vote at. Also, asking for birth certificates, marriage certs etc....even after you show your ID and then being turned away because you don't have 5 different forms of ID. We all know what is being done here "suppressthe minority, elderly and student vote because they are more likely to vote Democratic! If you think for one second this is trivial you are naive or turning a blind eye like so many other repugnants! Once again, these tactics will only come back to bite them and it's going to be a fine day when it does!

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      #1.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:15 PM EST

      Forrest it was three million (2.8 to be exact). We currently have upwards of 15 million in the US now and I think that may be a bit conservative. And yes, if you deport the illegals the babies should go with them. Unless of course you want to break up the family.

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      #1.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:39 PM EST

      I won't argue the numbers, suffice it to say Ronald Reagan encouraged many more illegals to cross over into the US with his granting them unconditional amnesty.

      How do you deport US citizens, and if you do, what do you do with Marco Rubio. What do you do if they simply say my child is a US citizen (which they most certainly are in fact) I will leave them here in the US.

        #1.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:45 PM EST

        Marco Rubio? His parents were naturalized in 1975 even though it was 4 years after his birth. I doubt that any parents would choose to leave their baby here. If they would, arrest them for child abandonment and deport them anyway. Besides, if anyone of them did and believed that way, they don't belong here anyway. That is not the kind of family values that I want be it "good and better life for the child" or not.

          #1.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:50 PM EST

          You can't deport a US citizen, and if you change the law to take their citizenship away then Rubio is no longer a citizen either, and can not be a US senator. Many will refuse to take their children, so are you going to build orphanages for them or what? Your idea of family values is well and fine but has no bearing on the law, many of these people have zero prospect of feeding clothing and educating their children in Mexico and will simply make the heartbreaking choice of leaving them here in the US, so again what are you going to do, because these kids are US citizens and you can not deport them just becuase you wish to.

            #1.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:24 PM EST

            I never said take their citizenship "away" nor deport them. They are better taken care of by their parents and their parents are to do just that. If the parents go, the child "accompanies" them. Being a citizen, you give the child a visa to travel for an unlimited time in Mexico or wherever they came from and upon reaching an age of responsibility, let them return as that citizen by birth right to live. While not the ideal situation, it may encourage their parents to seek legal citizenship at a much more rapid pace. Frankly, I think the whole "born here, citizen here" provision is misinterpreted to fit the progressive mind set. Although it states the same, I doubt that the founding fathers meant what it is being used for today. That being rights and handouts for the family while one child born is the only citizen of the US and and the only one entitled. The parents being the guardian should not reap the rewards above and beyond the welfare of the child only.

            Been interesting going around with you but I have to get some things done. Thanks and have a Happy New Year going forward.

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            #1.11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:41 PM EST

            Thank You and you Have a Happy New Year as well. BTW I don't necessarily agree with the way things have been, my point is that the laws are what they are and this is not an easy problem to solve from any perspective, it is going to take some serious consideration of all the consequences of any possible actions. This is probably why it has never been properly addressed, because it is a tough nut to crack.

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            #1.12 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:21 PM EST

            Super...

            "We all know....."

            Pretty presumptious of you to speak for every American on a topic, isn't it ???

            And when was anyone asked for "5 different forms of ID" after showing an ID at a polling place ? Do "we all know" about that matter too ???

            You can speak for yourself all you want in this life, but "we all know" that many others would prefer to speak for themselves.

              #1.13 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:33 PM EST
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              I think they polled the latinos in L.A.

              The holiday season is over. Unemployment claims have risen. 2012 looks bleak. Obama has driven the car over the cliff (to use their analogy). All the lies, crony capitalism, voter fraud, and blaming someone else will not get him re-elected.

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              Reply#2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:42 AM EST

              doug, not sure where you get the claims of voter fraud - I happen to be on my county's election commission, voter fraud in this country would be very difficult to do - however, we all know, you only want "your people" to vote, sorry douggie - that dog just won't hunt. If 2012 looks bleak then look in the mirror, there are a lot jobs out there, unfortunately far too many young people were never taught to work, when saint ronnie was in office and when papa george was in office my husband and I both worked two jobs (sometimes 3) almost all of the time just to make ends meet, no these were not our dream jobs, took us awhile and some education to get to those, so you will have to excuse me if I'm not too sympathetic towards someone who thinks they are too good to work some of the jobs I've worked and I don't have much sympathy for anyone who bought a house they could not afford from a completely useless realty industry that does nothing but push houses on those who can't really afford them in order to make a big commission and keep their construction working spouses busy building homes that no one can really afford and probably does not need anyway. I'm ok with the rising price of gas - that is the only way we will ever get rid of our oil addiction, and it is an addiction we should have removed from our society a good 30 years ago. Sorry you did not improve your lot in life, but for me and my family, hope and change are working very well -thanks for asking!

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              #2.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:53 AM EST

              Really? You're on the county's election committee? What? They don't have that new fangled TV (that stands for TELEVISION) in your county? Obviously, they have the internet.

              46 states have reported instances of voter fraud. Use your internet for something new (to you at least). Learning and current events. Start with this one that says jobless claims rose.

              http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/29/9797222-jobless-claims-show-labor-market-improving?threadId=3307055&commentId=61093534#c61093534

              I admit I don't have a job. Reason being I'm retired. My house is paid for. But I appreciate your concern over my well being.

              You seem to have memorized some of the Big O's talking points.....good for you. No wonder you don't think voter fraud exists. It's probably just a case of means justifying the ends to you.

                #2.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:06 AM EST

                Doug! Please! You are very misinformed....voter fraud my as!! There is 0.0000006% voter fraud which means there isn't very much at ALL. This stupid ploy to claim there is a problem with fraud is only a cover up by the repugnants to STOP OUR VOTE! Talk about unconstitutional!!! These repugnants are so scared the poor, elderly, minorities and middle class are going to vote for Obama they resort to trampling over our right to vote! Disgusting! Please go back under the rock you climbed out from under.

                  #2.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM EST

                  Sounds like a repugnant your talking about! You are blaming Obama not the Latinos as they know choosing a repugnant will only make things even worse for our country considering that's how we got here to begin with. The repugnants had 12 years to make things better and what did they do NOTHING! Just like congress they do NOTHING!

                    #2.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM EST

                    Doug Obama won with an electoral lanslide do you really propose that was the result of election fraud. If you want to talk about election fraud you would get more traction if you talked about "hanging chads" and the supreme court decision to award the election to Bush. Bottomline is you don't win with the margin Obama did due to election fraud.

                      #2.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM EST

                      A much larger problem with American elections has to do with American voters than it has to do with fraud or chads.

                        #2.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM EST

                        Forrest

                        I didn't say he won by voter fraud. But the denial of the left that it occurs at all and some made up bs like "there is 0.0000006% voter fraud" is very telling. Add in their opposition and ridiculous arguments over voter id laws; the smell of smoke hangs heavy.

                        BTW, Bush won with the majority of electoral votes. It was sore loser, touchy-feely, everyone's favorite global warming loony Al Gore who couldn't accept the outcome.

                          #2.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:33 PM EST

                          Doug, Gore and Democrats in Congress accepted that decision and Bush's presidency a hell of a lot better than Republicans have accepted Obama's landslide win.

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                          #2.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:51 PM EST

                          Forrest, we accepted his win. Hoping that possibly he may be able to live up to the hype. It is the fact that he is pushing a BS agenda leaning toward socialism that has at least me up in arms. Not that he is a Dem. Not that he is an extreme rookie when it comes to national and international affairs, he had and has no clue what he was up against. His narcissism and ego and the fact that he got elected a Senator, in his own mind made him go after something that is now evident he shouldn't have.

                            #2.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:07 PM EST

                            The American people overwhelmingly felt he should have the presidency, he did not win by virtue of his ego. By the way he will very likely be re-elected, because now we all understand what he was up against, a republican Congress that claimed their top prioty was to see him fail, and who sign pledges to a single man, he understands what he is up against and they are polling with the worst approval numbers ever recorded. They are helping him win re-election, and they will not get the only thing they really wanted and worked for, his defeat in 2012. Romney can't do that for them, Norquist can't do that for them, Obama will be re-elected, I will bet you a ham sandwich on that.

                              #2.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:35 PM EST

                              Super...

                              You need to mellow out. "Repugnant" starts losing it's steam after the six hundreth time it's read.

                                #2.11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:38 PM EST

                                Just took my favorite girl to the new Sherlock Holmes movie. We enjoyed it.

                                No Forrest. Weird Al did not take it better than republicans took Obama's election. Bush was hounded and demonized by the press and the left. Horrible lies that the lunatics still spew to this day.

                                Obama is one and done.

                                  #2.12 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST

                                  Well Doug we have to wait a year to find out but I think he will be re-elected, the Democrats seem much more motivated, republican agendas have been turned back in three states, the republican controlled house is at a historic low approval rating and Mitt Romney the apparent nominee excites no one. Plus Ron Paul who is going to peel of votes on both sides but much more so from small government conservative republicans Romney needs. I just don't think Romney and the republicans can pull it off, the only thing they are counting on is a bad economy and they played that so badly they are largely now seen as a reason the economy is so bad, republicans in Congress have taken the heat off Obama and shouldered it themselves. The speaker of the house can no longer speak for the house, republicans are in bigger trouble than they care to admit, I'm placing my chips on Obama winning, people like him, Romney not so much.

                                    #2.13 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:15 PM EST

                                    They're not counting on a bad economy. It is what it is. No improvement forecast for 2012. Obama's policies (foreign and domestic) are uninspiring to say the least. The dems will lose the senate, reps will keep the house, and Romney will be president. Especially if Rubio is on the ticket.

                                    November of 2012 will bury the democrats for awhile. 2010 was the beginning. You remember 2010, right?

                                      #2.14 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:00 PM EST
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                                      You will also find that Native Americans favor President Obama by a 3 to 1 margin! I speak at several tribe meetings and they are upset by the hatred coming from the Tea-Bagger/Republicans.

                                      Obama 2012

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                                      Reply#3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:53 AM EST

                                      Well.....that's 75% of the Native American vote...70% of the hispanic vote...95% of the black vote...and one would have to guess Mr. Obama sucks up three-quarters or better of the government union employee vote.

                                      Looks like a lock...gee, can't wait for four more years of this mess.

                                        #3.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:42 PM EST
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                                        There is NO 'voter fraud'!......Perhaps an individual case here or there out of millions of votes cast! Registration fraud like "Donald the Duck".....but you can bet the Duck would not be able to vote, constituting 'fraud'!

                                        This whole issue to just to suppress the vote (for Democrats), TeaPeople think. If the TeaPeople didn't think they were losing, why try to suppress the vote for Democrats?..Just more dirty tricks as usual.

                                        The only real voter fraud was those chads (sp), in Florida 2000, Supreme Court intervention......that's real fraud!

                                        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/the-myth-of-voter-fraud.html?_r=1

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                                        Reply#4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:24 AM EST

                                        NY Times huh? Now there is fair and balanced. LOL

                                          #4.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:36 AM EST

                                          Talk to the Hand

                                          NY Times huh? Now there is fair and balanced. LOL

                                          .....Truth being told, ........ your point is exactly what?

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                                          #4.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:41 AM EST

                                          It was an editorial page. Opinion, get it? Not fact.

                                            #4.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:41 PM EST

                                            Talk...

                                            Save your breath ! It's pretty obvious that many people fail to see the difference between "news" and "opinion".

                                              #4.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:43 PM EST
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                                              Chilled said,

                                              The only real voter fraud was those chads (sp), in Florida 2000, Supreme Court intervention......that's real fraud!

                                              Speaking of fraud... Must suck to be you

                                              From Factcheck.org

                                              FULL ANSWER

                                              According to a massive months-long study commissioned by eight news organizations in 2001, George W. Bush probably still would have won even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a limited statewide recount to go forward as ordered by Florida’s highest court.

                                              Bush also probably would have won had the state conducted the limited recount of only four heavily Democratic counties that Al Gore asked for, the study found.

                                              On the other hand, the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount. The Florida Supreme Court ordered only a recount of so-called "undervotes," about 62,000 ballots where voting machines didn’t detect any vote for a presidential candidate.

                                              None of these findings are certain. County officials were unable to deliver as many as 2,200 problem ballots to the investigators that news organizations hired to conduct the recount. There were also small but measurable differences in the way that the "neutral" investigators counted certain types of ballots, an indication that different counters might have come up with slightly different numbers. So it is possible that either candidate might have emerged the winner of an official recount, and nobody can say with exact certainty what the "true" Florida vote really was.

                                              The study cost nearly $1 million and was the most thorough and comprehensive news-media review of the Florida balloting. It was sponsored by the Associated Press, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN, St. Petersburg Times, Palm Beach Post, Washington Post and the Tribune Co., which owns papers including the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Orlando Sentinel and Baltimore Sun. The news organizations hired the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago to look at each untallied ballot. Trained investigators examined 175,010 ballots provided by local election officials. The media consortium then analyzed the raw data produced by NORC and drew conclusions. The result, released Nov. 11, 2001, was something of a muddle.

                                              The Associated Press reported the findings this way: AP: A vote-by-vote review of untallied ballots in the 2000 Florida presidential election indicates George W. Bush would have narrowly prevailed in the partial recounts sought by Al Gore, but Gore might have reversed the outcome – by the barest of margins – had he pursued and gained a complete statewide recount.

                                              Thanks for playing... Loser!!

                                                Reply#5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM EST

                                                Bush is the epitome of loser! He laughed all the way to the bank ! He is probably still laughing.

                                                  #5.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:18 PM EST

                                                  Yup, Dubya laughed!....

                                                  His brother, Jeb, celebrated 'stop the count' in FL!

                                                  The bought and paid for 'activist' judges on the SC ruled and......

                                                  The Country (all of us) has suffered ever since!

                                                    #5.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:05 PM EST

                                                    And yet he was re elected in 2004. "suffering" ?

                                                      #5.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:49 PM EST

                                                      Yep. I said at the time in 2004. "If we re-elect Bush, I'll be surprised if we even have a country left by the time he is done." I was pretty close to right. Now we get to be all mad at Obama because he couldn't wave a magic wand and instantly fix it. The answer is to give him more time and a cooperative congress, not hand it back to the ones who broke it in the first place.

                                                        #5.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:05 PM EST
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                                                        Since an "AP" poll is being brought up as if it's "gospel"...take a look at the "AP" poll that came out today...they polled a group of national economists to grade the economic performance of Mr. Obama. It seems they think he needs to quit the golf team and take some remedial classes in economics and management. Perhaps start studying a bit harder too.

                                                        One "AP" poll should be just as good as any other "AP" poll...shouldn't it ???

                                                          Reply#6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:49 PM EST
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