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URBANDALE, Iowa -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry on Wednesday warned that President Obama's health reform law could result in the death of ill patients, relating the story of a cancer patient he met Tuesday at a campaign stop in Creston, Iowa.
"She came up to me and she said 'Governor, if you don't get rid of Obamacare, I'm dead," he recounted. "She said they will never take care of me. And that's a powerful testimony by that lady."
The governor, who won cheers for his promise to use an executive order to gut the law, though most of the health reform law's major components haven't gone into effect yet. Perry spoke to a packed house at the biweekly breakfast meeting of the Westside Conservative Club at the Machine Shed Restaurant in Urbandale.
Perry, a veteran who served in the United States Air Force, also unveiled a new swipe at Obama for failing to schedule a "simple parade" for soldiers returning from Iraq.
"It really disturbs me that nearly after 10 years of war that this president wouldn't welcome home those heroes with a simple parade," he said, briefly appearing to become emotional. "Maybe it's because this war is unpopular with the Democrats, I don't know. But Mr. President, our soldiers come first."
The Texas governor, who has been haunted by a memorable debate gaffe from the CNBC debate last month, found himself in a refreshing position at the start of the event: correcting someone else's oops.
Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a top surrogate for Perry, especially on the issue of immigration, introduced the candidate at the breakfast meeting, beginning his remarks with a shout out to the "Buckeyes."
The home team for fans of the University of Iowa is the Hawkeyes; the Buckeyes are the mascot of Ohio State University. The crowd laughed and booed as Arpaio joked, "It's 3 o'clock Phoenix time."
Taking the microphone minutes later, Perry leapt in for the save, referencing another college team with dedicated fans in the state.
"Actually, there's probably some Cyclones in this crowd," he said, referencing Iowa State's team, after teasing Arpaio for the error.
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Oh yeah... the pro life guy ....who likes the death penalty ...hmmmm
If Perry feels the soldiers come first, then why does he like every other fool in that Klown Kar want to deny soldiers and their families basic rights, namely Healthcare?
she knows they will never take care of her, because FOX news said so..........
she is obviously worried about the "death Panels"
Bev - what reference can you show me where Perry...or anyone, wants to deny the military and their families basic healthcare. FYI, military healthcare is in no way linked to Obamacare
And John, what reference can you cite that in any way, Affordable Care will fail to care for the woman w/ cancer. No, that is not a "powerful" statement by that lady. Did any one ask if she has health care coverage now, or why she wouldn't just keep it.? If she doesn't have it, she'll sure as hell not get it w/o the laws new provisions on pre-existing conditions. He should have asked the other "expert" in tow, Arpaio - geez, slug 1 and slug2.
Is Perry taking his cue from Michelle Bachmann?
Remember this from Bachmann regarding the HPV vaccine?
Perry and Bachmann: Done and Done!
Of course Obama wouldn't want a parade. He wants the fact hidden that he pissed away the lives of over 4000 GI's and billions of our treasure by handing the country over to Iran by not insisting on a residual security force like we had in Korea or Germany.
How many iraqi's already got blown to smitherines after the poorly planned pullout? And all to get votes.
The war that Bush had won prior to leaving office is now lost in no time by an incompetent stooge!
Marv - and that answers Bev's statement how? Get a grip will ya.
Bev:
What are you talking about Perry denying soldier's and their families healthcare? Obamacare and TriCare are not one in the same. Obamacare has nothing to do with TriCare. You are talking about something you know nothing about as usual.
Show a link to back-up what you're spouting.
I'm a retired veteran and my family and I haven't been denied any RIGHTS.....
BTW: What rights have those ole' so badd Republicans taken away from you?
Rob,
First of all Bush did not win the Iraq war. Second he is the one who signed off in getting out of Iraq by the end of 2011 and glad Obama did. The 4000+ deaths in Iraq did not all occur under Obama, most occurred under Bush.
Now as for him hosting a parade, parades like NY fifth avenue parade are not sponsored by US government but by the city of NY or a corporation.
Guess it does not count that your idol Bush got us in a war we never should have entered and is the main reason for the financial troubles we are now facing.
Just remember, anyone who votes for any of the Republicans running for President can not claim they are a Christian. A Christian does not do or adocate harm to the poor. Everyone of these candidates are in favor of hurting Social Security benefits, Medicaid and Medicare. Also, your Rick Perry has reduced severely funds to help the poor elderly pay their electric bills in order to keep one billion dollars of collected fees that Texans paid for to make himself look bettter. So sorry, but you cannot be a Christian and vote for one of these idiots
Everyone of these candidates are in favor of hurting Social Security benefits
Rich - where do you think the money for Obama's payroll tax cut for 160 million americans came from????
hint - social security
maybe when Obama admitted to George Stephanopolous (sp) that he was a muslim it wasn't a slip of the tongue.
Rob,
Yes workers are paying less into Social Security, but it is temporary so that the economy can heal quicker. When more people are working, more people will be paying into Social Security. And NO, Obama never said he was a Muslim. Just like the woman who said if Obamacare was not killed it would be her death. Again, no proof.
Well one thing for sure, we now know you would support a evil governor. Has really hurt the poor yet spends 400,000 a month of Texans money for his security (flights, hotels etc.). Anyone with one ounce of class would use campaign funds for that. Sorry but he is the lowest of the low.
Second he is the one who signed off in getting out of Iraq by the end of 2011 and glad Obama did.
Yes Bush did set an exit plan for Iraq prior to leaving office after it was evident that the war was won but he would have without any doubt left 20 to 30,000 troops based there for years if not another decade. We did it in Germany and we did it in Korea.
Obama thinks he only has to worry about the economy being the Sword of Damocles over his head but he's wrong as months pass on and the reports of Iranian aggression in Iraq continue Americans particularly those that made sacrifices in Iraq are going to be none to happy!
The country of Iraq said they wanted us out, period. They were only willing to let some troops stay if they had the right to prosecute them for any crimes (their definition of crimes), including any accidental killings. Sorry, if we had never interfered the world would have been much better off. In my opinion, Bush just wanted to get back at Sadam for putting a threat out on his fathers head. He did not care how many US troops got killed or maimed. You have no proof again that Bush would have left troops. Seems you guys can make claims but have no real data to support it, just like the lady who claimed Obamacare would cause her death. No facts, just stupid statements.
Rich,
It's always "temporary" with liberals spending money that doesn't belong to them. Facts are facts entitlements particularly Medicare are unsustainable with baby boomers aging. Have you heard of Greece?
Who does she think is going to take care of her if Obamacare is repealed? If Rick Perry thinks this story proves any kind of a point, he is dumber than I thought he was. It's almost embarrassing.
And NO, Obama never said he was a Muslim
here you go Rich.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M&NR=1&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tCAffMSWSzY
So rob, you would be OK with leaving tens of thousands of troops in Iraq WITH NO IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION? Or maybe you don't realize the problems that would cause those troops?
Bush might have left 30,000 troops in Iraq, but would he have left them there without immunity? Left them subject to whatever reprisals Iraq chooses to impose should a soldier injure or kill an Iraqi citizen? Obama chose not to do that. The current Status of Forces Agreement that provides immunity to our soldiers expires on December 31, 2011. In the other countries where our troops are stationed there are Status of Forces Agreements that provide some sort of immunity to protect our soldiers. Iraq refused to grant us that. Obama did the right thing.
Rob,
An entitlement is not a handout. People pay most of their lives into it. For Medicare they also pay a monthly charge for it. There are also deductables etc. So buckup and pay your fair share.
Now as for the Youtube segment you show, it is obvious that it was an error that was immediately corrected. Anyone with half a brain can see that. You are probably even a birther.
You complain about Obama helping the middle class out, but I saw no mention about all the money Bush spent on an unneeded war that has put us all into debt. Also, you Republicans claim you will not tax the job makers. Well the quote job makers are now sitting on over a trillion dollars yet are not creating jobs. They are just keeping the cash. Give them more and they will keep that also.
Iraq refused to grant us that. Obama did the right thing.
Obama didn't even try to negotiate a deal. Wake up for christsakes we went to war and toppled the regime. Have you ever heard the phrase "to the victor go the spoils". All Obama had to say is if you charge one american GI you Malaiki will swing from the same rope as Sadam.
The hell is wrong with you appeasers?
They are just keeping the cash. Give them more and they will keep that also.
Rich - that's a very telling qoute. Give them more. It's their cash not the govenments.
As for entitlements when social security was enacted there were something like 40 workers supporting 1 retiree. Now it's down to what 7. UNSUSTAINABLE WITHOUT REFORM.
Rob,
You are so wrong. The US government did try and negociate a deal to keep some troops. Since we are not Occupiers we cannot go around and threaten a legally installed president of a country. Besides, we have spent enough of our treasure (lives and money) on this unnecessary war. And, what would we have gotten out of spending even more - nothing good that is for sure.
So I ask, what the hell is wrong with you, willing to risk US soldier lives, many billions of dollars (but I am sure from your perspective is OK but OK to help the poor American worker). Unless you put your butt over there and risk it, its time for you to end your whining.
it was supposed to read "but NOT Ok to help the poor American worker
"She came up to me and she said 'Governor, if you don't get rid of Obamacare, I'm dead," he recounted. "She said they will never take care of me. And that's a powerful testimony by that lady."
Maybe she said "If you do get rid of Obamacare, I am dead!" and Perry misheard her!
Good answers Rich! Rob, you are confused!
Rob,
You state it is their money. To a degree you are right. But this money was made using the support structure (roads, bridges etc.) paid for by all of us. The majority of the rich due to loop holes etc. pay a smaller percentage of their income than middle Americans. Sorry but they need to pay their fair share. Pretty soon Americans won't have the means to buy the goods and services these rich folks sell. They also rely on middle and poor Americans to protect them. A much higher percentage of poor and middle Americans fight in our armies than the rich. When Bush instituted his tax cuts, it by far helped the rich over the middle class/poor. Obviously you are not a Christian the way you want to treat the poor.
Obviously you are not a Christian the way you want to treat the poor.
This is the same left wing progressive rhetoric that was used when Newt Gingrich pushed for Welfare reform. The mantra was one million american children would starve in the street but the result was 2 million americans found work and became self reliant.
The class warfare stuff is a lost argument. I'm all for helping the truly needy but that's not where all the money is going. 47% pay no income tax whatsever. The liberal lie of the rich not paying there fair share is just that a lie.
Rich - you can't fight Rob's magic 8-ball. Once it is gazed upon, shaken, asked a yes/no question, and provides a "definitely yes" answer, the ability to raise alternative facts and rational thought are over. How else could he know that Bush would, without a doubt, have left 20-30,000 troops? It's all in the 8-ball.
Red,
You are so right. Thanks for sharing. You cannot convince a card carrying Fox groupie anything. If Fox says its true to them it is true. Unfortunately the unfair and definitely unbalanced station is a joke. Fox says government should be kept out of your lives unless of course you are a gay person or person needing birth control or abortion (while I personally oppose abortion except in cases of incest, rape or the womans life is in danger - I do not force my views on others). Then it is OK in their eyes.
Rob..
You claim Bush won the war in Iraq before he left office? What was the date of that victory? Why did he leave office without bringing the troops home?
Bush didn't win any thing, he got us stuck in a muck and it won't be know for another 10 years if our presence and Iraq democracy will do anything, after how many U.S and coalition lives and how many trillions of dollars?
Also, Obama care hasn't killed anyone, one of the big cost saving measures that must eventually be dealt with is health care rationing of diseases with non-favorable out comes, you can spend billions to try to cure uncurable diseases or you can spend millions and have a sophisticated elaborate hospice network in this country, reasonable rationing must be part of the equation in managing health care costs.
You do realise that most of our troops deaths in Iraq happened under the previous administration, correct?
With the current defense budget and pet projects, we are already spending over 1 trillion a year on our military, yet you want us to keep setting up shop in other countries.
I was personally in Iraq and can tell you, if the warmongering politicians in the U.S. and Iraq had it their way, we will would never leave.
Every attempt to train the Iraqi military ending in failure. They were never on time and showed little to no respect towards us. As far as I am concerned they can deal with it themselves. They claim if it is the will of Allah, then so be it. To that I say, good riddance. They can use Allah as every excuse why they were always late to training, they can also use it when they are steamrolled by another nations military.
Had we not eliminated our lap dog in Iraq to begin with, we would still have nearly 5000 more troops still breathing and a trillion more dollars. All we accomplished was to give Iran the green light to do as they please. Then again, it may have been the plan from the get go. Destabilize the region so the war mongers have an excuse to have a severely over bloated military budget.
For no legitimate reason. Iraq was never a direct threat to us and despite what people want to believe, that was a known fact when WMD's were used an excuse.
Social Security was just fine until the general fund crap happened. Politicians started using it for pet projects and to claim there was a balanced budget. The only reform needed, is to keep the dickhead politicians hands out of it.
You mean like Medicare Part D? That little gem allows big pharmacy to charge whatever they want and the government is not allowed to negotiate a better price. Nothing says fiscal responsibility like having the tax payers pay $1060.00 for a 60 count script of Oxycontin. To put that number into perspective, cash paying patients would pay less than $300.00 for the same prescription.
Your partisan blinders are keeping you ignorant of the fact that neither party cares about you. It's your choice to cheer lead for people that could give a crap if you live or die.
They call it Obama-Health-care, but what they are out to destroy is Medicare... Don't be fooled by the crap that the conservative right hands you...
Their plan is to attack president Obama any way possible... Then go after any and all social programs that they don't like... In other words, destroy the middle class in America...
As Mitch McConnell said, his main objective was to make this president a one term president.... Who the Hell does that pudgy, pasty faced wimp think he is, to go against the vote of the majority of Americans voters? Myself and other senior citizens won't let it happen...
because this idiot has spent more monet[trillions] more than all presidents put together,and he still wants more. If he is re-elected this country is doomed,he dont want jobs, he dont care about fuel prices,and no matter what dems say it has nothing to do with race,who cares what a person looks like as long as he keeps his promises and stop spending our country into oblivion.
Can these tea people GOP republicans get any more ridiculousness. That statement is kind of like the Bauchmann statement about a vaccine causing mental illness. Do these people ever think before they speak? What would the would think of America if these tea people GOP republican nuts were to go out on the would stage and spout crap (lies) like this.
We would think the same as we do when Democrats go out on the WOULD stage and spout their crap.(lies)
See how that works?.....The same can be said about both sides and since we said it; nothing changed.
Everybody connected with Perry seems to have some form of memory or learning issue! (Or maybe it's a GOP thing, little Michelle has problems with geography too)
Jaysus!
Back to the death panels... eh?
Anyone know if this 'lady' was Bible Spice?
Given Perry's lack of concern about executing a possibly innocent man, why would he give a sh!t about some nut job from IA?
The closer we get to Tuesday, the crazier the clowns & their supporters become!
Good thing we have plenty of *popcorn*...
Why does everything Republicans say end up being debunked?
Best part, we leave Iowa and immediately go to New Hampshire. The fun just never stops in this travelling circus!
Amy,
They are so desperate (GOP field) to win that they will say the first thing that pops into their heads without finding out if it is true! (Although some of those heads ARE pretty empty)
feisty ---- just shows how screwed up the republican party is. they are nothing like the old republican party. now it's full of whackos, nutjobs and other assorted strange people. just shows how far they have fallen. the current batch makes the worst from the past look good by comparison.
Any guesses why they changed so radically after 2008? ;o)
PS: Hope your holiday was merry!
how about a bet on how many nut jobs drop out after Iowa? I am going with two. Bachman and Santorum... Then Huntsman after the second primary then Perry by the end of the third.
I can't wait since we have open primaries here in Texas and there is no Dem primary. I hope Dems come out in droves to vote for the most dumbarse of all of the GOP candidates. That would make a statement for all the new Voter Suppression, I mean voter eligibility laws here in Texas now.
feisty --- had a nice holiday. hope you did too. i guess the republican party got hijacked by the radical teanut jobs and they were to chicken$hit to put them in their place where they belong. i don't know of any brain disease going about that would infect so many people so fast.
There's always a market for stupid and moronic talk........TP will surely buy. It still baffles me how this guy got elected as Gov. in Texas.
Excellent guess, I would only add having a black man occupying the White House, also had something to do with it!
feisty --- sadly that does seem to be one of the components.
"Excellent guess, I would only add having a black man occupying the White House, also had something to do with it!"
He is black? He is white? He is Christian? He is Muslim? Obama has to be the biggest "Racist" on the planet, He is in fact ALL races, Black/White/Raised in a Polynisian culture with Muslim and Christian parents, Some how I have to think he has some American Indian in him somewhere (and possibly some Russian considering the chess game he is playing with Republicans, lol)
I had a discussion with a 50 year old who hates President Obama and the Health Care Reform act, along with hatred of all progressive ideas. This fellow said “no way is hell would he let anyone force him to buy health insurance. “ So, my question to him was if he had a major accident or illness, that lets say cost $100,000 or more, what would he do? His answer, “go to the ER.”
Of course with additional questions of how he would you pay for this, his answer was to pay $20.00 a month. Of course my response was $20.00 a month was not going to satisfy the hospital or ever going to pay the bill. I went on to point out that such as a plan of action on his part flies in the face of what his far right friends believe in, and that he would be considered one of the dead beats he and his far right friends accuse the progressives of doing.
Let's give a shout-out to Texas for their 'open' primary; then, let's get the democratic vote out in Texas to support your favorite GOP nutjob. Think about the GOP candidate who made you laugh so much you spilled your popcorn and almost pee'd in your pants as you fell off the couch watching them 'debate'. Better yet, write-in a democrat as your favorite GOP candidate. Give 'em back some of their own fillybuster and obstructyism with a touch of 'better than the alternytive'. The repubs ran a 'repub' candidate on the democratic ballot in WI to confuse the voters; how much would it take to stir 'em up in Texas? Maybe send a busload of Minnesotans to Texas to give Bachmann a shout-out?
Amy, it's because the current crop of candidates only cares about coming up with soundbites to appease the most radical fringe of their following. They don't care about FACTS, just that it sounds good on Faux news.
Feisty, I think fumes are leaking into that GOP clown car.
So this woman is saying, take away my health-care and she will be better off? Sounds like she needs all the help she can get...
If Perry wants to destroy health-care, then I wonder what kind of health-care he and his family have and who pays for it...
Was this the same lady that told the crazy lady Bachmann that the medication that Perry wanted to mandate all young girls in Texas take, make her daughter's mind go blank after taking it?
Common mistake, She thought she was talking about the Red Kool Aid served at RNC conventions
If Obama had thrown a parade for returning soldiers, Perry would have accused him of making a big deal of his ending the Iraq War for political purposes. Republicans are always complaining about Michelle and Jill Biden's work for military families. Of course, the Republicans can't understand why they don't get the same credit for helping the wealthiest families avoid paying Clinton-era tax rates. Apples to applies, right?
AND they would be complaining about the "cost to the taxpayer" for throwing a parade!
So Perry's idea of supporting the troops is throwing a parade, while Obama's is bringing them home from a war we had no business asking them to fight. I'll take Obama's, thanks.
The President and First Lady, along with the Bidens, then want to follow up with programs to help veterans get jobs. I'd rather have a job than a parade.
Steeler Fan,
Right On!!!
If the President threw a parade that cost the taxpayers, say $4 million, do you think we would ever hear the end of the crying and whining on the right? Also, does Perry think Texas, with the highest rate of people without any health insurance is a model for the nation?
Come on Guys, Perry was thinking about jobs for them. After every parade there is a huge mess to clean up. someone has to do it. Right after the parade they could be put right to work......wait a minute that sounds like a Newt idea............sorry
Fuzzy, I got the perfect job for Perry. He can be the guy with the broom and shovel that follows the horses at the parade.
Nope...he's better suited to follow the ELEPHANTS !
Perhaps it would help if the Governor could explain the circumstances and why the woman was making the claim (could a reporter help here to garnish some facts). This would be more helpful than reporting a statement with no context.
Alan,
The problem is these politicians just pop off with these types of stories before checking them out. I don't think the press reporting what Perry said is the problem.
Yeah! She says "they" won't treat her! My question every time I hear about "they" is - WHO THE HELL ARE "THEY"?!!!
Disagree. What exactly is a reporters job? They have reporters following the candidates for POTUS. When a candidate makes a statement like Perry just did and none of them ask for an explanation then we the electorate are left uninformed. For an old lady to make such a statement is fine, she's entitled to her own opinion, but a candidate for POTUS must be held to a higher standard, and we the electorate must demand that the fourth estate do their job as we are not in a position to ask the questions.
I think the issue is the fact that Perry used the woman's statement to illustrate a point. I presume the point was that Obamacare is bad, but I'm not sure how that statement makes that point. Who does she think is going to take care of her if Obamacare is repealed?
Sure ain't Perry!
Perry & Arpaio = Harry & Lloyd
Perry: "Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!"
Da Noid,
I hear the good sheriff credits Michelle Bachmann for giving him geography lessons!
Wow! In one second he pissed off 2 colleges and their fans! gotta love it!!
Any chance Arpaio's getting his sheriff's pay docked while he goes out and makes a complete ass of himself and Perry? Probably not. Hell, he wasn't doing the job while he was there! See the backlog of unsolved sex abuses cases!
fuzzy,
Speaking of Buckeyes, this year's Gator Bowl is OSU and Florida (Gators). Who ya favoring?
Phine,
It's a real toss up for me, as my father was from Columbus and a HUGE Buckeye fan, I,However, have lived here all my life and have followed the Gators for years. A bunch of my high school friends went to and or played for the Gators. I think the Buckeyes will probably win this one.
Da Noid, I respectfully disagree.
Perry & Arpaio = Beavis and Butt-head
I hope Perry stays in for awhile, I could use the comic relief. Bachman too, at least long enough for her to lose her congressional seat.
i thought beavis and butthead were bush and cheney
No, Newt is Lucy and Rick Perry is Ethel. At least according to Romney.
Don't think the insurance companies control the doctors? Shortly after the Obamcare was being implemented I tried to go to a new doctor after moving to a new city and pay Cash because they were not accepting any more Blue Cross Blue Shield for some unknown reason. The told me they could not accept me at all even to pay CASH BECAUSE I had their insurance. Not exactly sure why that is the case but they told me they did not want to harm their relationship with the insurance company because evidently there is a policy the doctor's agree to that says they cannot accept cash from patients with their insurance??? Can we expect more of this?
This clearly shows the stranglehold insurance companies have over medical providers, but what part of Obamacare led to this doctor denying you?
Merely a coincidence. Obamacare, or the more difficult to remember name (thus needs a clever moniker), the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) aka HCR (Health Care Reform) was signed into law THEREFORE MUST have been the reason he was denied paying with crumpled up dollar bills.
As Ryan stated, this is an insurance company and health care provider policy issue and has nothing to do with PPACA of which until recently, NONE of its provisions had yet to take affect.
If you want to pay CASH for medical services then find a doctor that accepts patients without health insurance or if you do have insurance you may have to file your own claims. After searching around on the net, as of October 2009, a comprehensive "first visit" will cost $300-400. Subsequent vists would be less.
I have to dispute your story. If you're paying cash, your medical provider shouldn't be sending in any kind of form 1500 to your insurer. BC/BS wouldn't know about your visit.
Is this the same lady that told Bachmann that her daughter became autistic after getting the HPV vaccine?
Not to get off subject but the pro-life people need to ask themselves this. If the fetus they're are trying to save grows up to be gay, will they fight for that persons rights to live and love the way they want ? just wondering.
You already know that answer...
"NO!"
If you are a fetus they will fight to the death for your right to life. After you are born you can go fark yourself.
Hey Rick - You're the governor - throw a parade if you want....I'm sure there were a few texans fighting - just don't go to the Feds to ask to be reimbursed for the expense of the parade!
Smart Governor my butt.....cuts his fire fighting services and then goes begging to the Feds to help fight the fires (not caused by global warming by the way)....
Him and the sheriff - Dumb and Dumber....
What is "Scary Perry" talking about??? He is not THINKING! Again. What is "Scary" about Perry is that he is unable to read information on his own. The American Health Reform Act, does NO such thing. "Romulian Romney" was the first one to pass American Health Care Reform Act, and President Obama incorporated a lot of his ideas. In fact all indicators are telling America. That the American Health Care Reform Act is working according to plan. It is saving our nation alot of money, and the lives of our fellow citizens. This is another GOP "Carnival Clown" spewing his "Crazy Conservative Crap" (CCC). Again! Old "Scary Perry" is spewing false information without doing any RESEARCH. Again! He appears to have trouble THINKING for himself. Again!
There's someone out there who thinks
I think that Mr. Perry is telling a BIG FAT LIE.
You Think ? Perry does not know a truthful statement to put forward.
Pulling a Bachmann by repeating something someone told you as fact is not a wise thing for a politician to do but no one say Mr. Perry was wise.
So you're trying to recycle the death panel scare are you Rick? Whatever -- you going nowhere so who cares!!! In fact --- not a single one of the teapublican clowns fighting it out in Iowa will be elected president.
The insurance companies also dictate if you will live or by refusing to cover doctors orders, because they know more than your physician. The first thing that must happen is to allow competing insurance companies to cross state laws and to allow patients to purchase their medicine where ever they want to ( like Canada ).
The government has no right to force me to buy anything.
The government has no right to determine who gets an abortion and why, whether gays can enter into marriage and all the other "social" issues that the GoP would force upon all Americans.
Only a fool would not want health insurance.
Then Jerry, just make sure you have a nice big savings account behind you if you refuse to get insurance. Because I sure as hell don't want MY rates going up because you wind up with some big medical problem, run up hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills (only takes a few days), and then can't pay the bill. For every uninsured person who doesn't pay, the rest of us get dinged with higher premiums.
Because, gee, people are not turned away for critical medical care and left to die if they don't have insurance - even though the teabagger debate audience cheered at the idea.
I wonder if this lady who "came up to Perry" had the shot as a teen and thus is now ill...oops no sorry that was Bachman.
I seen a panel of Doctors talk yesterday on the Obama Healthcare Bill and they said it WOULD cut patient care -70% of Drs. agree that there will be less care, more waiting time, the people of 70 yrs. of age will be discussed by hosiptal adminstrators ( with no medical training) what procedures will be held back and what will be "doled" out because of age. The QUALITY of care will go DOWN . There are only 29% of the people now according to a poll I seen that approve of Obamacare-the majority say NO WAY!!!! OVERTURN IT!!!!
Who was conducting that panel Sarah Palin & Michele Bachmann? The death panel? You know you are not telling the truth retx3. It's sad that you all would lie so carelessly and deliberately just to insite a retoric of lies
The only doctors that are for Obamacare are the ones Obama paid to stand beside him. The AMA represents about 20% of practicing doctors and survives on selling there endorsements.
1Hiram you sound like you eat and sleep with these jackass Repubs.. Telling the same lies as they are telling about ObamaCares! Get you facts correct then post please. I know that's not a big thing in your party, lies sell big huh?
much better than associating with those lying pieces of whale excrement Democrats.......look it up
I like the new health care reform. However, I would love to see it go as far as single payer.
Oh boy Job1 you're going to make 1Hiram head explode now talking about single payer. But go ahead talk about it, I love it! What these Repuds failed to tell the people is that ALL of them who are, or have been in Gov't such as Congress, Presidency, State Gov't, City Gov't ALL have TAXPAYER Funded Health Care, like ObamaCares! It's okay for them but everyone else be damned! What hypocrites they are. Tell Bachmann, Palin, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, Huntsman and the rest of the lot of em to turn in the Insurance cards then TALK, otherwise shut the hell up!
Im with you on that brother.
didn't explode.......and not ALL state employees are on the same plan as a Congressman. Many county and city employees are on the same type group policy as any corporate employee. They do not have the same options as say a Congressman or federal marshal may have. Those are the Cadillac plans you are referring to I believe. If all you mentioned were on those same plan the government would already be bankrupt...........nice try though.
That's the ticket! If we don't need it then neither do they.. Period
Perry is too stupid to breathe! It's funny no one is ever around when these clowns get approched by these phantom people in the crowd. If these people really existed, a REAL Credible Candidate would bring them to the cameras and let them tell the world, right? But they are just lying which is what they do as normal as breathing, LIE!!!! Bachmann is a bible toting LIAR, as is Perry, Santorum, Romney and Gingrich. Paul is just crazy as Hell. And Huntsman is just going for the ride.
Here's how single payer works....
".... Danny Williams a Canadian Provincial Premier (the equivalent of a Governor) eschewed the oft-touted Canadian single-payer health care system to come to the U.S. for a heart procedure. ..... he came to the U.S. to get a specialized heart procedure because: It’s rarely performed in Canada, and when it is, it’s rationed, you could die waiting for it, and if you get it they use a method that is over 10 years old, more destructive to the patient’s health, much more dangerous, and requires a much longer recovery period."
“This was my heart, my choice and my health,” Williams said. ”I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics.”
"The implication here is clear – when it came time to an urgent matter regarding his own health, Williams, who has been a huge proponent of nationalized health care in Canada, preferred to go out of pocket and out of the country to get the best care available. Where did he go? Why to the “broken health care system” in The United States. The same “broken” system which apparently has the most advanced procedure for his condition available in the world."
"By the way, the man is a multimillionaire, so he could afford to go anywhere in the world. Except it appears, his home country, which we are told, has one of the best health care systems in the world. So good, in fact, he was worried that this same system wouldn’t offer him treatment before his condition killed him."
Canadian's have "free will" and can come to the US and spend their own cash if they would like, but...
My Aunt (an 81 year old Canadian) has had both hips replaced over the last 10 years, and yes she was on a waiting list BECAUSE it was NOT considered "life threatening" She is quite happy with her healthcare! And always has been.
My uncle (CANADIAN) had bypass surgery and was admitted immediately and was operated on right away BECAUSE it WAS a "life threatening" condition!
Another friend of mine's teenage daughter was diagnosed with bone cancer when she was 14 years old and had GREAT treatment in CANADA! She is 28 years old now and has been in remission for the last 12 years!
CANADIAN HEALTHCARE is WONDERFUL! So STOP running your trap about something you know NOTHING about LEONA!
Obama should have hung tough and pushed for SINGLE PAYOR!
I didn't write that peice. It was written by a Canadian. He's in govt. and is not using his own govt. run system. That's exactly what the liberals in our govt. would do ( go elsewhere) if we had single payer.
"So STOP running your trap about something you know NOTHING about Jo-An"..............LOL
He came to the US because it is a procedure "rarely performed" in Canada. Canadian doctors have been flocking to the US for the last 40 years because they know they can MAKE MORE MONEY HERE! Because the American healthcare system is set up to make the doctor's RICHER! You know Leona, part of the 1%.
Again, Canadian's have free will, and he "chose" to come to the US for his heart operation because it was a specialized procedure.
But you are right, the gov't WOULD GO ELSEWHERE, because "they can afford to"!
To Hell with the "middle class", right Leona? .....LOL
OBAMA 2012!
Too effin funny Chicken Little!
YOU of all people to telling someone to STOP running their trap about things you know nothing about...
Say Leona, why don't you dazzle us with your bull@!$%# 'Bo the dog' story you were peddling last week!
Here's a napkin honey, your lips are still brown!
@ Jo-An - You are 100% correct about the Canadian Health Care system, I worked for a company based out of Montreal for years & my friends up there ♥ it!
feisty,
You mention things I "know nothing about?" lol, I didn't write that piece, as I said . A doctor from Canada did. So how is it you criticize me? Take it up with him.
BTW, Your adored President Obama is disappointed that you won't stop the vitriol. he made a plea for people like you to stop name calling.
Your kids must be proud...... NOT
Ummm as a matter of fact YES, chicken little!
See I post documentation to substantiate my position...
YOU on the other hand, cut & paste bull@!$%# you are spoon fed from the Drudge Report & the rest of the right wing misinformation channels...
As if that isn't bad enough, you have this nasty habit of spam trolling!
Always leaving your stink bombs all over the place.
It's okay sweetie, the mind really is a terrible thing to waste, which you prove with each one of your comments!
I'm just glad I had this opportunity to clear up your confusion!
You can thank me later, when OUR President is re-elected by a landslide! lol
feisty,
Your adored President Obama is disappointed that you won't stop the vitriol. he made a plea for people like you to stop name calling.
It must be the kool aid. Your kids must be proud...... NOT
lol
Sure LEONA -- stop the name calling?? What a joke!! People like you have called this president every name in the book -- Marxist, communist, socialist, foreigner, some clown on Fox last week called him a "skinny crack dealer from the ghetto. But then you whine about somebody calls you names. You right wing types just love dishing it out but when even a little bit comes back at you, you act like poor helpless victims.
If you're so very offended by name calling -- I suggest you tell your on talk radio buddies and your Fox buddies to end it.
Charlie,
With all due respect to your opinion, I've called Obama a Socialist because his policies reflect it. I believe he is a nice man, a good husband and father BUT I disagree with his politics and think they are bad for our country .....and I won't stop saying it because , so far, this is still a free country.
BTW, I remember that Obama tried to ban FOX news from the White House press until the general ranks in the press corps rebelled against it. If we lose our free speech, we'll be looking like No.Korea. I think you should criticize the Obama admin. for trying to stamp out free speech just because he opposes their opinion.
Leona
That story from FOX about the White House banning FOX was shown to be a misleading and "self-serving" attempt on the part of the network to make themselves look more important than they are...
http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/foxs-white-house-bans-fox-news-story-completely-unravels/
His politics are the politics of the left with a heavy dash of centrism thrown in.. the only thing socialistic about him is his adherence to preserving the social programs and policies that have been in place for decades in this country.. if you consider providing affordable healthcare to every American "bad for our country" and/or a threat to our freedom, I'm puzzled...