Ice water

Isn't that what runs through Willard's veins? Guy has zippo personality.

Isn't that what runs through Willard's veins?

Nah, that is mostly hydraulic fluid with a little 10W 30 running through the engine.

I always expect Romney to start shouting, "Danger Will Robinson."

The funniest thing is the Grinch exposing how he views an election against the president, what's even funnier is that he thinks he is the one to put the flames out....;-0)

I for one would love to see the debate between Newt and Mitt - mano a mano. Dems need not apply. Let's see how the real two candidates handle the heat of a real debate - not that one minute girly "world peace" stuff so far. Good prep for the Obama debates next Summer - that is if Obama has the guts - which is doubtful. Obama knows he had better lay low in the debate department, and spend that $1 billion on Dem smears for his best chance.

And as usual, Romney wouldn't take a stand; this time on the payroll tax holiday.

Think Progress: In two TV interviews today, GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney refused to take a stance on the biggest issue in Washington today: the extension of the payroll tax holiday. A huge bipartisan majority in the Senate passed a two-month extension of the cut, but the House rejected that yesterday.

A number of Republican senators have slammed House Republicans for blocking the extension, but on Fox News this morning, Romney wouldn’t say whether he sided with the House or Senate, dismissing the issue as an “internal battle.” “I’d like to see this payroll tax holiday extended,” Romney said, without saying for how long.

Later, on MSNBC, Romney downplayed the debate as being “deep in the weeds.” He offered only platitudes about hoping that the House and Senate “come together” to “get the job done.” “I’m not going to throw gasoline on what is already a fire,” he added.

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That's Romney's "MO". I will say this for Newt. I don't agree with him on anything, but at least with him he speaks as an individual. He has opinions - strong opinions - on just about everything. He isn't one to wait and see. He isn't one to play it safe.

Newt can take the heat. It's Romney who can't. He's afraid to answer anything.

And Romney talking about the Iraq War? Despicable. He is what is wrong with America. Saddam Hussein let those inspectors into his country; they were allowed to go anywhere they wanted.

Wasn't it our government who told them to leave when they weren't ready to leave?

There were plenty of people who went with what we knew back then and they were correct. President Obama being one of them. Ted Kennedy being another.

Nobody in this country does their homework and that's what is killing us. Neither the media nor the politicians. There were no WMD's. None. Zero. Zilch.

The evidence was there if people would freakin' do their homework occasionally.

I am so tired of the excuses when it comes to Iraq. Especially from Romney. He is neither a smart nor courageous man. And our President of the United States needs to be both.

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Here is a great story:

Think Progress: Now venture capitalists are arguing for immigration reform for the sake of the economy after a study showed that immigrants founded almost half of the U.S.’s top 50 start-up companies and are vital management or development employees at roughly 75 percent of the nation’s leading cutting-edge companies.

Thank goodness neither one of them are using this in a campaign commercial;

Chorus x2]
(I said)
Its gettin hot in here (so hot)
So take off all your clothes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KKPR2e6_vk&feature=player_detailpage

The LAST thing I need to see is the Newt naked!

I would have to wash my eyes out with bleach!

a study showed that immigrants founded almost half of the U.S.’s top 50 start-up companies

That is a real indictment of our system. Our people are so into the entitlement pond, they won't take the risk of starting a company. Doesn't say much for our education system and what it is doing to our culture.

For the sake of that statistic (immigrants founded almost half ot the U.S.'s top 50 start-up companies) what is an immigrant? Are we talking off-the-boat generation, first, second, etc generation? We were all immigrants in this country at some point in our family histories.

Hey Blingrich,

What falsehoods ??? - Just list what you think are lies and explain them.

Quit hiding behind a request for something you know ain't gonna happen!!!

Let's start with the divorces.

Then the ethics violations.

then the zany comments

Then the lobbying for Freddie and Fannie.

Facts. All on the record.

You are nothing but hot, foul, air coming out of a fat balloon of a body!!!!!

You are nothing but hot, foul, air coming out of a fat balloon of a body!!!!!

I guess we know just which end of Newt that Obama comes from, then.

that is if Obama has the guts - which is doubtful.

The guts to do what --- take on either of these clowns?? Get real. Newt only looks good when he's up against the third stringers. When's he's up against real competition, he folds. Clinton kicked his ass all over the place and Obama will make Clinton look line a nice guy. As for Romney --- he couldn't win a debate with himself.

We can play "my dad can beat up your dad". Let's both hope Obama and Newt get the chance to debate.

If Obama is so hot to show his stuff, I think Newt would accept a debate about the tax cut right now. We probably both agree it would be a good thing if they did debate now. Think Obama is up for it?

Wall Street Journal, today:

One reason for the revolt of House backbenchers is the accumulated frustration over a year of political disappointment. Their high point was the Paul Ryan budget in the spring that set the terms of debate and forced Mr. Obama to adopt at least the rhetoric of budget reform and spending cuts.

But then Messrs. Boehner and McConnell were gulled into going behind closed doors with the President, who dragged out negotiations and later emerged to sandbag them with his blame-the-GOP and soak-the-rich re-election strategy. Any difference between the parties on taxes and spending has been blurred in the interim.

After a year of the tea party House, Mr. Obama and Senate Democrats have had to make no major policy concessions beyond extending the Bush tax rates for two years. Mr. Obama is in a stronger re-election position today than he was a year ago, and the chances of Mr. McConnell becoming Majority Leader in 2013 are declining.

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Once you take a step back, you realize just how well President Obama has done toe to toe with leaders in both Houses on the Republican side, whose only goal is to want him OUT next year.

Gee, I wonder why. He makes them look like the idiots that they are. That's why.

He makes them look like a bunch of men who never quite rose to the occasion during these tough economical times. He makes them look like men who never quite lived up to their own potential. It was their choice. They thought more of Grover Norquist than they did the American people or the Constitution.

They thought more of their rich lobbyist friends than they did working with a President who wanted to right the ship. Well, he's righting the ship. Without them.

This is what we love about America. Men like Barack Obama, who keep going when so many are standing in his way, trying to undermine everything he does.

It's what we were taught growing up. Don't let anybody stop you. Find people who are on board with you and together - just keep going.

America is seeing that in our President. It is quite a sight.

Romney has money and Gingrich has condescending spin. By all means, beat each other up -- It's almost as satisfying as a child molester going to the big house.

Pat Boston MA.

Sorry, but from My perspective the President hasn't made them look like anything, they have done it all by themselves. They could have maintained the high road, but chose not to and I'm afraid they will pay the price...

There is a chance for the president to play his cards correctly and gain the high road, but only if he is very careful. (we must remember he is still not liked very much by more than half the population.)

As far as toe to toe with the house leadership?

A draw so far, Neither has done anything but spin in the wind.

phinephancy-4252115 -- Check out Barney Frank's song book.

Egilman -- I'll see you and raise you one -- I agree the GOP/TP look bad all on their own. However, the "more than half the population" who still don't like the president very much -- not so much. Just because the far left is disappointed that the lies about President Obama being a radical liberal aren't true, it doesn't mean they aren't supporting him (along with moderates/Independent swing voters). This is reflected in many polls in many ways.

TrueP.

You may be right, that being said I can show a few polls myself saying the independents and moderate swings are going with Ron Paul also, I would call the polls a wash. It's hard to judge right now because we are still figuring out who is the candidate, so the polls are muddied too much to make a real determination.

Nationwide in the swing states Dr Paul runs even with the President, the only one in the race that consistently does. It's going to be a very interesting election.

Egilman --

You are right that Ron Paul is being underestimated. Also, what will happen with a third-party candidate splitting the conservative vote. From my position (center leaning to the left), there doesn't seem to be much difference between the GOP/TP candidates (Mitt Gingrich, Newt Romney, ha).

TrueP.

I'll give ya my vote on that one, there is no difference between them.

I can just picture the two of them wearing their aprons... in a Betty Crocker bake-off, hollering over who is sweating MORE! lol

Newt and Mitt's recipes from Betty Cooker's crock book.

Newt Tiffany called Mitt a Cockroach, Mitt said Newt needs a new Bath Tub. ( "Idiots" )

Hi Forrest, hows it going?

[I can just picture the two of them wearing their aprons... in a Betty Crocker bake-off...]

Maybe they can invite Rick Perry and he can bring his Easy Bake Oven...

Merry Christmas to you and your family, Forrest.

The Wall Street Journal blasted Boner, Mitch McConnell and Eric Cantor for how they handled the matter and they Praised Harry Reid for his leadership. The Press also blamed the Teabags for putting the 1,700 mile pipeline in the bill and threatening Bonehead with a "NO" Vote. The Tea-Retards said the 1% will not tolerate any disruptions to their needs. The Rich own the T-Nuts lock stock & barrel, they should they started the Teabaggers party.

Hi Mickey, Merry Christmas to you and yours.

With Newt and Mitt it would be an Easy Fake Oven, where everything turns out halfbaked.

This will be one of the first tests of the new SuperPAC law, legislated from the bench by the Supreme Court.

We'll get a first glimpse of how easy or how hard it might be for Romney and his rich pals to just BUY the election.

In an election up for sale to the highest bidder, whoever will benefit the most financially from picking the government will pay the most for the election. Will it work?

Newt and Mitt's recipes from Betty Cooker's crock book.

Come to think of it Forrest, I believe the Food Network is the only one who hasn't sponsered a debate! lol

Happy Holidays to you & Mrs. Grump & all your Grumpettes! ;o)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Newt is shopping at Tiffany's for his new wife" #4, ?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Will they have to go thru a rehab program?

Looks like Newt has taken the Mittens off.

Phine - I doubt 12 steps will be needed, but a lot of methadone will be needed by the Republican establishment should Newt win.

Good lord, you set that up so well. If this weren't a holiday and I weren't trying to be nice I would smack that off the tee with gusto.

Merry Xmas to all!

It was my Christmas present to you. Merry Christmas nisl.

Really and he is crying because Willard didn't say nice things about him. What is he going to do as President when Ahmadinejad insults him, grab his blankey and ask Boehner to join him in a good cry? Looks like Salamander Man can sure dish it out but he can't take it. That makes him the textbook definition of a bully in my book.

Matt,

The Three largest Tea Party leaders in Iowa has already come out stating that they will vote in support of Dr Paul. It wasn't reported in the media but that isn't unusual this campaign cycle.

Newt never had the Tea party endorsement, neither has mitts, bachmann, perry, or any of the other also-rans. Another example of don't believe everything the media says is so.

johnluci
Me too, but do you think they would really listen?

Sanctimonious little Ricky Santorum thinks it's his turn to be flavor of the week--as if....

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

nurse,

Maybe you shouldn't use "Santorum" and "flavor of the week" in the same sentence...

...just sayin'...

hey dragon, what heat are you talking about? there was no heat. the idiots and liberals like you who voted for obama never knew who he was. he had no record. so, how can you ask him regarding his qualifications when he has no credentials. this is of course in addition to the liberal media refusing to check his past.

sailor: Where were you during the presidential campaign when GOP was calling President Obama a terrorist, saying he was not an American, calling him and his family monkeys, saying he was a muslim, etc.

And where have you been the past 3 years with all the above and more being said about the President...even GOP admits the lack of respect given to President Obama is greater than an president in the past.

Give it up sailor......you know President Obama has taken alot of heat, no one denies it.....and to get back on subject....Newt or Romney can't take any heat, they whine, they rant, they throw tantrums.....

where the heck are the crazies !!! C'mon....I promise I won't talk politics !!!