CHEROKEE, Iowa -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry isn't having a very relaxing retirement so far.
Perry faced questions Friday about a Texas Tribune investigation that found he "retired" from government service in January in order to access a monthly pension that nearly doubles his salary.
According to the story, Perry's lengthy time in state government, as well as his military service, combine to meet a threshold at which he can retire -- on paper -- as a general government employee without stepping down from his elected position. The move means that Perry adds to his regular $150,000 annual gross salary a monthly annuity of $7,698 before taxes.
The governor said Friday that the state's Employees Retirement System contacted him to inform him of the provision.
Asked to explain the details of the unusual rules that allow him to receive the large boost in taxpayer-funded pension pay, Perry said, "I don't know the system well enough."
"ERS called me and said, 'Listen, you're eligible to access your retirement now with your military time and your time in service,'" he explained. "I think it would be rather foolish to not access what you earned."


And this clown has the balls to soak the TX tax payers $10K a month in rent!!
Amazing... simply, amazing!
Ignorance is not a valid defense!
*face palm*
You have GOT to be kidding me?
Hypocrisy, huh?
So the tax payers really are "soaked" by government pension plans, but isn't this the kind of big government employee pension plan that you and all the libs so vehemently cry for ... the plans we need to borrow against our kiddos futures?
You snarked about the "second plane" trips for the Obama vacations the other day. Are you too obtuse to not understand that Obama's and Bo the first dog's taking AF1 for the 500 mile trip to Martha Vineyard's blows Rick's little governmental perk out of the water by what ..... 4 years worth of Rick's bennies .... just so Moochelle and the girls don't have to wait an hour or two?
Yea I know ... the First Fam are real 99%ers and have "OUR" (the little 99%ers) best interest at heart.
Not like the repub Tex gov. soaker, right?
How can you justify Perry’s hypocrisy by pointing fingers at the other side? Perry’s problem is he is from the party that is constantly trying to cut…..he is a Hypocrite!!!
Oh dear!
Who gave booby the 'wedgie' this evening?
Pull the butt floss out from between your cheeks & you'll feel better babe!
Poor little guy has a terminal case of ODS - Obama Derangement Syndrome!
OOOOOOPS!!!!
Where did I justify Perry?
I merely was pointing out Feisty's hypocrisy. I know, I know ... any embecile can see Feisty's hypocrisy
... well except Feisty.
Ah! So Bob finds it more convenient to make personal attacks against Feisty rather than address the topic on its own merits? Sounds like Bob, all right.
Hey Sailpuss,
Where did I attack Feisty?
By implying Feisty was an embecile in the second comment which was a reply?
And really, by her "booby".... "wedgie" ... "butt floss" ... "poor little guy" rebuttal, it wasn't already apparent that she is an embecile if that's the best she can do?
You're not suggesting she was trying to be funny .... are you?
Second grade stuff that everyone has heard ... well since the second grade?
If I attacked the attack queen .... I apologize ....
I really just want Feisty to be all she can be and wish nothing more for her to please take the above as nothing but constructive criticism from one of her many fond, loving, conservative friends.
What a bitter, shriveled, arrogant shell of a man you are booby!
Then again, I wouldn't expect anything different from someone who 'gets off' tearing the wings off of butterflies!
For once in your miserable life, why not try practicing what you preach?
I gleaned these gems from just one of your comments posted above:
"You snarked..."
"Are you too obtuse to not understand..."
"Hypocrisy, huh?"
It seems your arguments are centered around insults and character assassination rather than well-reasoned and thoughtful discourse, Bob. That does sound like you, by the way. Just so you know.
While receiving his generous government pension he will probably do his best to remove or reduce government pensions.
Can't say I blame him. Hypocritical of him? Yes.
Lot of that going around, on both sides.
This bothers me a little.
But what bothers me more, is the man who can't remember three things, is asking for the job to run the military.
Last thing we need is another cowboy war president from Texas.
"You snarked..."
LOL ... and that is an insult to Feisty? ... here at FR?
"Are you too obtuse to not understand..."
A simple question with the intent to provoke self-examination, a healthy practice ... no?
"Hypocrisy, huh?"
Ditto.
BTW - You guys take the ad hominem stuff way too seriously, too emotionally.
Just so you know - The comments about the economy where people are suffering, comments about the war where lives are lost and torn about, comments about national security where lives and futures are jeopardized and comments about Obama - I take very seriously - not the above / not ad hominem.
Bob, don't look now but...
Fail.
Don't believe me, huh?
What is funny, I actually gave Feisty a compliment on the other thread - even gave her great big VOTE.
But, what you still don't understand .... I don't care .... I don't take the ad hominem stuff seriously.
Well, I guess I have to call it.
I've done all the work with the underachievers I need to for the day.
Have a good evening Sailpuss.
No better example of drinkin & blogging! lmao
The poor littlew booby bird, has not figured that out yet!
Nionsense,
I am a retired public employee from Nevada. We have Nevada PERS (Public Employee Retirement System)
I had to attend two classes to study all the PERS rules and what my options were. Each state has slightly different rules, but you would be foolish not to take the best option for your circumstance. I know I can still work at another job, and draw my full pension.
Military pensions are from the Federal Government unless the pay came from the state.
What did Governor Perry do wrong here??
Is this yet another feeble attempt to smear a Republican candidate?? Libbies getting desperate??
ABO 2012.
What's wrong? Really? How about SS being a Ponzi scheme to this guy Perry while he double-dips at taxpayer expense? This guy is too dumb to run a lemonade stand. C'mon Texas, send this guy packin'.
I don't care for Republicans... but ... I can't believe I am saying this, He was in the military and so earned a retirement from his years there... then... as most military do, he took a state job which also provides a retirement.. he is entitled (wow an entitlement.... isn't social security an entitlement?) to both retirement payments.. What I don't agree with is he is a Govenor and being such to me is still a state employee, so I reserve my judgement on that.
look the whole point is he rails against to much govt. and to much spending. then he does this. so it's ok to screw regular americans and reap all the bennie's he "DESERVES" he said why not take what he earned. and yet he want's to destroy social security, medicare and medicaid. well mr. ooops we ALL earned them. yes he is a hippocrit as is the people that back him. how can you make an excuse for him?
I'm sure the good Lord approved of his pension. Who are we to second guess him? Perhaps it is time for Ricky to head on back to that hunting lodge with the politically disasterous name.
It is called the Rule of 80 and part of the ERS benefits. Let's say you start working for the state when you are 40 and work for 20yrs. until you are 60. The formula goes that you add your age plus your amount of service to the state. If it equals 80, you can begin to claim pension benefits.
I'm not sure what special inducements Perry gets, but it sounds like a normal state pension plan. Although a firebrand would call this move hypocritical, others do it as well. Many people do retire once they complete the rule of 80 and then reapply to another position or their same at a lower pay to get their pension and their new salary. It apppears as if Perry is doing that, double dipping they call it.
Nothing illegal about it. As a liberal democrat I support pensions and the rights that state workers earn over their years of service at often lower pay than comparable work in the private sector. That said, what is good for the gander is good for the goose. People with less limited means count on the rule of 80 pension plan as a supplement for their golden years. Let's hope that the GOP TX legislature doesn't succeed in deleting the rule of 80, as they try every bienium session.
WTF ?.... Just another crook !...I bet god told him to do this to !
Rick Perry 2012..."Oops!"
From the Texas Tribune article...
Damn...and Perry wants to be President? Why? He can stay Governor and be set for life!
Is it any wonder that he wants to dismantle social security. With the deal he gets, his social security check will be pocket change. Yup, public service can be very lucrative.
Wait to see the millions he has amassed while never holding a real job in his life.
Da Noid.. the retirement from being President is even more.
I can't believe that you all are complaining about the retirement plan that someone has earned. I guess that Bill Clinton shouldn't get his pension. I guess a lot of teachers, policemen, or firefighters shouldn't get theirs also.
It's called "double-dipping". Retire from a job, then go back to work, get retirement you earned, and get a pay check. Of course, since none of you are running for president or any other political office that would make your life personal it is great how you can attack, but that is the way of the radicals, whether left or right.
The irony, BigBear62, is that Republicans are busting public worker unions and asking teachers to "sacrifice" for the good of the state budgets, while hypocrites like Perry take every dime to which they are "entitled."
There is a difference, between each state of the union, which has made this country strong in the past. Texas teachers are not part of a union, they have their own retirement plan, which even in these bad times, made about 5% last year. Not as good as other years, but heck, 5% is pretty good. We are also not beholden to giving our salaries to some union rep, who get paid to be a lobbyist. But throughout the state of Texas, teachers "double-dip". So are they not entitled to their retirement & keep on working.
Maybe you should try finding a right to work state, and remember that the cost of living in Maine, is about twice as high as Texas, unless you find one of those fenced neighborhoods. But I think that all states have those.
But as far as "entitled" goes, isn't that what your OWS protesters are doing, protesting to get a job they are "entitled" to. I guess it depends upon which leg you stand on, whether or not you are "entitled".
I have to go with the Conservatives on this. Perry has the right to access the retirement he agreed to when he took the job.
I would, however, like to see him try to live off of only this "entitlement" he earned.
I don't doubt that he's legally entitled to his retirement, but for someone running for president of the US, I don't think it's unreasonable to hold them to a higher standard. The republicans complain about teachers and public employees having too much bargaining power, "excessive benefits" (allegedly), yet he has no problem drawing his retirement even before he is retired.
Something tells me if this was President Obama drawing retirement, we would never hear the end of it from Rick Perry.
Apparently, to these people, you are only entitled to the "retirement you earned" if you are in the 1%. The rest of us only "earned" Social Security which is a "Ponzi scheme" and should be eliminated or put in the stock market to further line the pockets of the deserving rich. There is something definitely wrong with this picture.
Primate guy - why is it you think "Perry has the right to access the retirement he agreed to when he took the job.", yet it's okay to cut the agreed to pensions for other government employees who are in unions? They had agreements when they took the job too, but Republicans have now decided their pensions are too big and they need to be reduced. Do you even see the dichotomy there?
I do not think it is ok to cut pensions. That is why I think he is entitled to his. The fact that he is hypocritical because he takes advantage of policy he disagrees with is a valid criticism. That he gets a pension for a job is fitting. I think everyone is entitled to the benefits they earn. Otherwise it is more about us-against-them than it is about a consistent and just standard for all.
This winner-vs-loser mentality is very damaging to our governmental system. For instance, if one party greatly strengthens the office of the President and undermines the powers of Congress, it may work well and the increased power may not be abused. If a less restrained opposition later comes into power, the same policy may cause irreparable damage.
That is why Perry should get his retirement. That is also why nobody should vote for him, because he is not in favor of the sound principle that employers should honor their obligations to employees. Making it personal offers no benefit, and causes damage.
...but eliminate social security because it's a ponzi scheme...
what a <explitive> wanker.
Who sez you gotta be a capitalist to get rich "servicing" the public. Add to this $300k income for doing nothing, the state pays his $9,500 monthly rent.
I'd like to complain that his out of state campaigning is cheating us out of his service we are paying for, but I sure as hell don't want him to back here.
Atta boy Cowboy Ricky, rugged self sufficiency.
Geez. Wonder where a son of a single mom would get the money to attend Columbia University, Harvard Law School, Travel around the world visiting Pakistan*how did he get into Pakistan anyway?", etc??
So glad all these questions were vetted before he stood for the presidency of the United States of America.
We did find out that he attend Occidental college in CA on a Fulbright Scholarship. Of course, to attend a college in this country on a Fulbright, you MUST be a foreign national????????? The following explains his SS# originating in Conn. This one had me puzzled how about you?
An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama's current SSN) on or about March 1977.
Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.
Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!
Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii, where he died.
Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.
The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
Hey HD,
What hogwash, instead of copying and pasting crapola, try doing some research. If you don't like him, fine but stop with the birth certificate stuff, it's lame.
HD are you aware that social security numbers are recyled after i think it's 10 years? man you gotta do better then that. but be the ignorant birther you are . it helps you sleep at night i guess. is your bed under a rock in your back yard?
I see hot doody is still parroting the Obama SSN "conspiracy".
I thought you gave that up months ago when you were proven a liar then...WTF!
This just in, scientists have re-proven that the earth is flat. When questioned, produced new satellite pictures showing that the earth is in fact a flat disk in space. Interestingly, most of Asia is proven to be a hoax, since it does not appear on the image.
They called HIM????? During the meantime a disabled VET who lost the use of his legs and was paralyzed during active duty goes on a 5 year (minimum) waiting list before his case can be heard then gets turned down because he has developed "other" symptoms unrelated to his military service,,,,,,,,I think I'm gonna be ill
(Yes, That Vet is ME!!!!)
You should try getting in touch with the Military Order of the Purple Heart office in your state. They will help you faster than the Va does.
Thank you for you service for our country BO
Yea...... yup.. just like a typical first responder.... they need great pensions... like $60,000 after 25 years as they are worn out from being a fire fighter or policeman.. and what do they do? Go get another job as a chief in another municipality and start all over again... get the second pension after 10 years and then get SS...... what a rip off......
Kevin,
I am the proud recipient of a public employees pension. Yes, I can go to work again, but why?? I have it made right now. Do you know that the retirement system in my state has automatic COLA increases every four years?? Is this a great country or what?? The option I chose will give my spouse 50% of my pension should she survive me. NICE.
Read the last chapter of Boomerang by Michael Lewis. Don't want to unduly scare you but if your pension seems too good to be true, it may very well be.
We are on the cusp of public employee pension obligations bankrupting waves of municipalities. Vallejo CA has no police, firefighters, meter maids or virtually any front line public servants because all of the tax money it collects goes to pay pensions of retired front line public servants.
Might start looking around for that retirement job.
Perry is a typical Republican --- say one thing, do another. Republican and hypocrite have been interchangeable terms for the last 25 years.
lets understand, a government agency contacted Perry to inform him of this benefit, how many others get this same treament?
This is from the man that said Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. If he did win (lmao) he would be the first active president collecting a pension while in the White House. This is why GOP and Congress/Senate are so against Social Security, they have this system and don't need it. The government pays over 289 Billion Dollars a year in government pensions, that's over 2 1/2 Trillion Dollars over 10 years. Social Security is Socialism and bad - Government Pensions are Capitalism and good. Congress approves its own raises, what a deal.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/moneymag_archive/1994/10/01/89168/index.htm
Well, if I had to pick a Republican it would be Perry. He can at least empathize somewhat with the poor having grown up in poverty in some desolate West Texas town and he used to be a Dem
Paul is too old and too isolationist for the Military industrial complex represented in large part by the GOP.They scorn his Iran "policy"
Newt and Romney are both Fat Cats who still believe in discredited trickle down economics by kissing upper Class ass to facilitate their spending and investment whims
Double dip Rick. Yeah this is the guy I want for President. When confronted he says he doesn't know enough about the rule. This guy's foot is growing mold from being in his mouth so much.
Man, what a bunch of whiners! Perry EARNED every benefit he might get; how about any of you babyfied, crying little metro-sexuals! Sheesh, grow up! I think a stint in the military and a shot of testerone would help many of you out a great deal.
GREG don't waist time on ignorance , these are the people who want every thing handed to them , by taking from those who earn it ,They have been indoctrinated in the socialist communist thinking and are in capable of see out side their own little world of fantasy of the ultimate utopia , and any one who EARNS more than they get from hand outs is some how evil , to their way of thinking ,
I have no problem with people getting the government pensions they earned just don't try to eliminate and attack the pensions of everyone else. You can't have it both ways . The Repubs have attacked every one else's government worker pensions when it suits them.Once again the great hypocrisy.
How about his. The day you take your pension, you have to step down from public office?
Not just Perry. All politicians that do this, as well as any city/ state employees.
We can't keep letting people double dip their retirements and expect to be able to keep funding it.
I think Ricky Perry has happened upon a new campaign slogan...
"I don't know much about...(Fill in the blank)
you are right he know only ,onle ,Ooops
all gop candidate are jokers, i am only only real tea bagger, i am ponjzy care vote for me oops,
There he goes again! Perry lying about how he qualifies for retirement monies, when he's still collecting monies from being a "Lead-From-the-Outhouse" governor. He is yet another example of a career politician milking the public's taxes while saying he's out to protect the top 1%-ers! He must be retired form his office!
Gov Perry was a lifer in the military?? That's the only way you get monetary retirement, unless he was wounded while on active duty or otherwise came out with a disability of some sort. I agree his military time should be added to his civil service time, but double dipping isn't the way to go when one is trying to get down to the people's level and making like he's one of us. No he isn't.
This is a loop hole that should be closed. Obviously he's able to collect the pension because the system permits it. While the Republican debates are underway and everyone's chatting about how important it is to cut government spending, we read about a policy that allows Texas government employees to collect a pension and keep on working. Unbelievable.
Scalpaca...not just in Texas...but, all government employees in the 'U.S. of China' can do as they wish upon retirement. If you have what it takes to fill a position after you retire....bam! you take it. You too can do this...whats the problem with it?
Perry does a good job of acting like a clueless Joe. Is he acting?
isn't this DOUBLE-DIPPING on perrys part??????? didn't the goverment change the rules when union officials,from the school system in illinois QUOTE,DOUBLE-DIPPED!!!!!! the height of hypocricy,don't do as i do,[as a politician,of course],do as i say!!!!!!!!!! this is the kind of jerks we have to take out next election!!!!!!!!!!