Perry says fatigue from surgery contributed to poor debating

 

Gov. Rick Perry says that fatigue associated with his recent back surgery is to blame for stumbles in some of his first debates, despite his team's repeated denials to reporters for months that the procedure had any impact on the candidate's performance.

"If there's one thing I could have changed in my campaign I would have moved that surgery I had the first of July back to January," Perry said Tuesday on Sean Hannity's radio program. "I didn't realize it was going to have as big an impact and frankly I didn't know the impact it was having on me from the standpoint of just being fatigued and it showed up in the first few debates."

Perry went on to use his oft-cited long distance runs as a sign of his recovery. "I have never felt better and I think you saw a glimpse of what you can expect out of me as we go forward in that last debate we had in Iowa."

The Texas governor, who had an advanced spinal fusion using adult stem cells this summer, admitted in an interview on Sunday with the Des Moines Register that the surgery had caused a delay in getting "back in the game" mentally and physically.

In the interview, Perry also took shots at the two top polling candidates in the race, repeating his slams of Mitt Romney's $10,000 bet and tying Newt GIngrich to Washington corruption.

"Mitt's from Wall Street. Newt's from Washington," Perry said after criticizing both for once supporting the individual mandate for health insurance. (He also cited several of the commonly used interview transcripts in which Romney talks about the successes of the mandate in Massachusetts.)

Without mentioning Gingrich by name, Perry also took aim at Washington lobbyists.

"We also need to know at the definition of lobbying. A lot of these members of the legislature, members of Congress, they become - quote - "consultants" to trade and lobbying organizations without actually registering as lobbyists. But you and I both know you're hiding behind a definition."

"Let's quit being politically correct here and call it what it is," he said. "You're trying to influence people, you're getting paid for it. Americans know that's lobbying."

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Then, that reflects poor judgment, Mr. Perry. Your chance to introduce yourself to the American people was in the initial debates , and you did poorly by all accounts.

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Reply#1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:37 PM EST

I can't believe I'm saying this, but come on, cut Perry some slack. The operation was no small thing and back pain can be excruciating.

That said, he did blow his shot at a good first impression. You are right on that.

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#1.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:57 PM EST

So what was the surgery on, his brain? Of course that would be micro-surgery........

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#1.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:42 PM EST

He probably had a lobectomy or lobotomy either way he is still an idiot!

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#1.3 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:42 AM EST

They reported prior to the debates that Perry was a poor debater and I believe they also said he had some trouble in debates to be Governor of Texas as well.

I agree with Bob-1887910 - poor judgment on Perry's part all the way around, or otherwise just a lame excuse for his poor performance.

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#1.4 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:39 PM EST
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Slow news day here at FR.

I was hoping Domenico or Murray would try and tackle some of the polling questions raised earlier, but I guess not.

Too bad.

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Reply#2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:37 PM EST

Try the new poll in Iowa Sparks ... seems Paul is crawling up Newts back .... enjoy.

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#2.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:40 PM EST

[Slow news day here at FR.]

Gee, I figured you'd be all over the thread on your buddy Trump bailing out of the debate...no $0.02 on this "counselor", or are you still trying to figure out why Corzine isn't in jail.

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#2.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:00 PM EST

I would love it if Paul wins Iowa.

Make them all shift to more sane fiscal policies. I like much of what Paul says. It's just the 10% that is scary.

We will eventually get a Ron Paul type president. Just think by 2016, the next go around, the debt will be at least $22.5 Trillion. Europe will be over, and China in the middle of a bitch of a recession.

Economic reality always wins.

    #2.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:03 PM EST

    [Economic reality always wins.]

    Speaking of economic reality, Spankles...have you reviewd the rules and ethics sectiions over at the State Bar of California website yet? Seems there's good stuff on fraudulent billing practices.

    ...better brush up, "counselor"...

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    #2.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:21 PM EST

    Yeah Mickey, but it was a while ago. I asked you to give me some citations yesterday, but you declined.

    How about now Mickey? You did review them like you said, right?

    Come on, help a brother out.

    Oh, and I missed Corzine today. He have anything to add?

    Found that $1.6 billion yet? Man that would be so nice.

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    #2.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:31 PM EST

    [I asked you to give me some citations yesterday, but you declined.]

    Spanky, you know better than that...you have sooooo many unanswered questions of your own that you don't need me to answer any. Besides, you're the lawyer, right?

    Better get crackin' "counselor"...you're going to need all the help you can get...

    ..tick...tock...

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    #2.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:36 PM EST

    lol... counter troll

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    #2.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:53 PM EST

    Oh no, I believe Mickey is threatening me.

    Huh. I wonder how that plays in regards to the Code of Conduct?

    Any thoughts Mickey, or just more of the same emptiness?

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    #2.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:59 PM EST

    [Oh no, I believe Mickey is threatening me.]

    You can "believe" what you want...I can't help you there, junior. See...just because you say it doesn't make it so, understand?

    So, any word on why Corzine isn't in jail?

    Spanky?

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    #2.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:30 PM EST

    TO: Spanky-who wrote:

    "... I like much of what Paul says. It's just the 10% that is scary..."

    You're going to vote for Paul because he's only 10% scary because all the rest of the Republican Candidates are 100% scary, LOL.

      #2.10 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:44 PM EST
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      It's hard to exercise great judgment when you're on Vicodin.

      But he just doesn't want to admit it.

      You see, he's a lot like Hamlet, after all.

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      Reply#3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:38 PM EST

      Ah, how about Tybalt in Romeo & Juliet? Always a comedian, then, alas, slain? "A pox on both your houses!"

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      #3.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:47 PM EST

      I'm thinking he's on something a bit more powerful, like Dilaudid...

      He comes across so very 'dreamy'! ;o)

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      #3.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST

      The Fair Anna Molly,

      Do not pass Go.

      But pls respond forthwithe to a most important Enquirye on the Sir Trump commentarye postings.

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      #3.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:50 PM EST

      Of course, if we go contemporary, I would have loved to have seen Chevy Chase do Perry. I know the new guys are good, but, Chevy was in a class all his own.

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      #3.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:51 PM EST

      But pls respond forthwithe to a most important Enquirye on the Sir Trump commentarye postings.

      Look it up, good Sir.

      I would have loved to have seen Chevy Chase do Perry.

      Well, okay, but then we've got to have Eddie Murphy doing Herman Cain.

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      #3.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:58 PM EST

      I am so there!!! SNL, good now, great then!!!

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      #3.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:59 PM EST
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      Domenico or Murray- why haven't you two turned the editorial content of this site over to Spanky yet?

      I mean, the lil' fella's been real persistent and all. What gives?

      As for Perry, I think it's rather adorable how he says something he thinks is 'cute', then grins at the camera or audience. I mean, who wouldn't vote for that??

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      Reply#4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:41 PM EST

      Not living in Texas, I am curious, do you suppose he has always been that way? The cute "oops" with the grin? Of course, I like Anna Molly and the Vicodin theory too.

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      #4.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:49 PM EST

      I think it's all so much simpler than all that.

      I think the guy's high on 'stupid'.

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      #4.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:51 PM EST

      That would make a great c&w song. "I am stupid and high over you, dear"

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      #4.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:52 PM EST

      Yeah, so Drive By - caught your fine governor on MTP Sunday.

      That dude sure don't seem to like Obama much.

      So is it he who is stuck on stupid or the Iowa voters?

      Editorial content? Naaa, we leave that to Feisty and the Libs R us gang.

      That's why it's so fun. It's your alls world. I just come for the fun.

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      #4.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:08 PM EST

      Spanky, unless you are going to contribute to writing a Gov. Perry c&w song regarding being stupid and high, I will just read past your posts. And FYI, I have a lot going on in MY world. I come here to relax and enjoy the conversation.

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      #4.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:17 PM EST

      [Editorial content?]

      So, Junior...just how much time DID you spend as a journalist?

      Please, enlighten us...

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      #4.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:30 PM EST

      Me too Phinep - relax and enjoy.

      But Country and Western is not my thing, nor is getting high.

      Oh my Mickey. Really? That ignorant are we?

      You might want to look up the word editor. Then the word journalism.

      You know Mickey I love you, but man, sometimes it just doesn't seem like you are entirely with it. Or are just consumed by all things Spanky.

      Either way, it might be time, once again, for you to shut it down and go outside for a little while.

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      #4.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:35 PM EST

      It's OK Spanky...I know it's hard being you...all alone at the bottom of the barrel.

      But hey! Things are looking up for you! I have your next talkigmn point for you. FR just opened a thread on your buddy Holder...Quick!! To your next shiny nickel, "counselor"!!

      But first, be sure to brush up on those rules and ethics...

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      #4.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:43 PM EST

      What's the matter Mickey?

      Is it you can't provide the citations or just don't understand them?

      Is it a comprehension issue or a reading problem?

      So sad Mickey. But hey, at least you keep trying, so you got that going for you.

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      #4.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:06 PM EST

      Gee, Spanky...you missed out on the Holder thread...it's not like you to pass up an opportunity like that. Although...you have started posting well past your middle-of-the-page comfort zone....what gives?

      And you should be thanking me...if it weren't for me, nobody would give you the time of day...

      Keep digging at the Cali State Bar website. You'll eventually stumble across what you're looking for.

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      #4.10 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:40 PM EST

      A c & w song for Perry? I remember one from the early 60's..that would fit his performance....

      "Oh, the moon is high and so am I, stars are out and so will I be pretty soon, pretty soon, pretty soon...

      Love, don't leave me, don't leave me layin' here, this ground is cold and chilly, really, don't leave your charmin' Billy layin' here, you hear?"

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      #4.11 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:05 PM EST
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      Perry used an EXCUSE on Hannity? I've listened to Hannity, and one thing the guy goes on and on and on about is people using EXCUSES!

      Well, SOME people, that is.....

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      Reply#5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:48 PM EST

      December 13, 2011

      Paul closes in on Gingrich. There has been some major movement in the Republican Presidential race in Iowa over the last week, with what was a 9 point lead for Newt Gingrich now all the way down to a single point. Gingrich is at 22% to 21% for Paul with Mitt Romney at 16%, Michele Bachmann at 11%, Rick Perry at 9%, Rick Santorum at 8%, Jon Huntsman at 5%, and Gary Johnson at 1%.

      I am leaving for the next thread ... later

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      Reply#6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:00 PM EST

      Rick sounds like an excuse for that time in your life.But what about the rest of it.

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      Reply#7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:10 PM EST

      "I would have stopped World War III but I had a headache and my back hurt" -- Makes me nostalgic for JFK with his Addison's disease and back pain, and FDR with his polio, neither of whom used their ailments as excuses. I'm still waiting for the Republican candidate who could possibly be presidential material instead of a rehashed news cycle joke.

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      Reply#8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:02 PM EST

      Who gives a crap about Corzine, anyway? Let our justice system follow its course. Perry deserves a nod here, back surgery is no small deal. But, like Capt. Binghamton said to Mc Hale, "they have battle fatigue? sounds more like BOTTLE fatigue to me!

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      Reply#9 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:34 AM EST

      Well Rick -- my wife had back surgery and she didn't turn into a total moron. There's a few teatards out there who think being stupid is a qualification for president and they are your only supporters.

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      Reply#10 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:52 AM EST

      "Mitt's from Wall Street and Newt's from Washington". And you're from Texas. Two "great" Texas presidents come to mind. George W. Bush and Lyndon Johnson. Both were criminals, both devastated our country, one was, like Perry, dumb as a bag of rocks. I don't think Perry was drunk when he was all but masturbating with the bottle of maple syrup. I think he was high, probably on pain meds.

      Looking good for the Repubs. One guy who can't get the nomination, the one who can will lose the general election. And Republicans say they consider this an average field. You guys must be grading on the curve....

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      Reply#11 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:03 AM EST

      Your back is not the problem, Governor Perry; your brain is.

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      Reply#12 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:14 AM EST

      What surgery, the penis enhancement or the lobotomy?

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      Reply#13 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM EST

      Did they operate on his brain??

        Reply#14 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:34 AM EST

        Perhaps the fatigue is mental, due to his overthinking? This man is not only a joke, he allows himself to become the butt off every joke. While back surgiesa are indeed traumatic, I think he's playing the pain card to wiggle out of his lousy performance. He's a warmongering ninny, and a loatheful waste of a man.

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        Reply#15 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:46 AM EST

        Perry had brain surgery?? Sounds like the transplant didn't take.

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        Reply#16 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:12 PM EST

        It wasn't the back surgery, it was the frontal lobotomy that caused his debate problems.

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        Reply#17 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:55 PM EST

        Perry lost any chance of being elected when he called Social Security a "ponzi scheme".

        His memory lapses during the debates just put the icing on the cake.

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        Reply#18 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:48 PM EST

        Being dumb as a stump didn't help either and that goes back WAY before the surgery

          Reply#19 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:11 PM EST

          Was he lying then or now?

            Reply#20 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:46 PM EST

            Alrighty then Ricky!

            We will pretend we don't see when you get all dazed, confused and bewildered....we can do that!

            Pretend that you don't show signs of brain damage

              Reply#21 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST

              Perry was a huge disappointment. He was supposed to be the experienced, conservative candidate who could attract moderate votes. Instead, he was done after the first debate.

              Ultimately, it is Gingrich who has filled the anti-Romney vacuum even though he's not a conservative. I think he'll do just fine against Romney and Obama, but do we end up with progressive light?

                Reply#22 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:57 PM EST

                So,,,,,,If Perry makes 44 stops, Does that give Democrats the right to spend years screaming he thinks there are only 44 States (ie Obama and 57 stops) Nah, Democrats wouldn't make themselves sound that ignorant

                  Reply#23 - Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:59 PM EST

                  IF this guy is ALREADY doing SPIN CONTROL on the debates, what can we EXPECT if he ever held office? Not much. More like George W Bush Part II / Sporadic Nonsense. He doesn't believe in education, Tell that to Americans who CAN'T competer with South Koreans, Japanese, or Chinese. Besides, he's doing OK. Govenor of Texas? What's that tell you (about Texas). Too bad about his back. Speaking of backs, go BACK to Texas, permanently.

                    Reply#24 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:23 AM EST

                    The Iowa caucus vote for the Republican leader will be "scary" whoever it is ! I love the swagger, braggadacio, and brazen self-confidence of those cowboy politicians from Texas, but their brains -Uhmmm-?

                      Reply#25 - Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:00 AM EST
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