First Thoughts: Why Romney might not be following Hillary's footsteps

Three differences between Romney’s and Hillary’s campaigns … Newt vs. Mitt turns negative, but Gingrich pens letter to staff, surrogates urging them to stay positive, but he reserves the right to respond to fire with fire (like hitting Romney over Bain) … Obama trails in swing states … a new NBC-WSJ poll out tonight.

*** Why Romney might not be following in Hillary’s footsteps: Yesterday, we wrote about the some of the parallels -- right now -- between Mitt Romney’s campaign and Hillary Clinton’s, circa mid- to late-December 2007. (Politico follows up today with some interesting interviews with ex-Clinton staffers.) But it’s also important to point out three key differences: (1) Romney doesn’t appear to be spending the amount of money that Clinton did. Remember, after Super Tuesday, the Clinton campaign essentially ran out of money (in large part, because it didn’t anticipate a contest past then). But Romney’s team has hoarded much of its cash. In fact, the main entity bombarding Iowa airwaves is the pro-Romney Super PAC, not the campaign. Team Romney has LONG planned for the LONG nomination fight; (2) Romney’s camp isn’t “all in” in Iowa, the same way Clinton’s was four years ago. That’s why Clinton’s loss in the Hawkeye State was so devastating and why her victory in New Hampshire a week later was so surprising; And (3) As we mentioned yesterday, Newt Gingrich’s operation isn’t Obama’s from 2007-2008, whether it’s in fundraising or organizing. 

*** The GOP race turns negative: But one comparison is certainly true: Romney and Gingrich are engaging each other like Clinton and Obama did in the winter and spring of 2008. Romney started it; He hit Gingrich on a number of fronts. But the first response from Gingrich elevated the spat and created this narrative. As Politico writes, “Presaging a brutal final stretch before voting begins, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich traded mocking insults Monday that veered into the personal and made clear that any restraint between the two was all but gone. In the sharpest and most personal negative turn yet of the Republican presidential campaign, the two leading contenders jabbed one another over how each got rich. Romney portrayed Gingrich as a Beltway fixer who cashed in on his access. The former House speaker returned fire by painting the one-time Bain executive as a reckless corporate titan who lined his pockets by killing jobs -- the first time a Republican opponent of Romney has [hit] him that hard for his private-sector work.” And it continues today from Team Romney. In the first attack of the day, the campaign released an email once again hitting Gingrich over Freddie Mac (something it did yesterday also). This close to actual votes taking place, the Romney camp knows it has to blunt any momentum Gingrich might gain from the early states. And Romney yesterday acknowledged that Gingrich “right now” is the front runner.

The Iowa caucuses are less than a month away, and the Republican presidential frontrunners are stepping up their attacks on one another. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

*** Newt pledges to stay positive, but…: But Gingrich, who everyone knows has a thick and dusty oppo file on him, is trying to guilt Romney into not attacking him. Gingrich late last night issued a letter to staffers and surrogates, urging them to remain positive and notes that both sides should run a “positive solutions-based campaign,” because, “It is critical the Republican nominee emerge from this primary campaign un-bloodied, so that he or she can make the case against President Obama from a position of strength.” And Gingrich used a quote from Romney that seemed more like a throw-away line to us: “I’m not going to say outrageous things that can be used to hang [a GOP opponent] down the road.” But that doesn’t mean we’re suddenly going to enter a kumbaya mode of this primary. Gingrich did, after all, write in a self-defense clause: “I have reserved the right to respond when my record has been distorted.” This little move by Gingrich has all but guaranteed Romney will have to own the idea that “he went negative first” something Gingrich is counting on backfiring with primary voters.

*** It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that swing-state strength: Turning the general election, a new USA Today/Gallup poll of swing states “finds the number of voters who identify themselves as Democratic or Democratic-leaning in these key states has eroded, down by 4 percentage points, while the ranks of Republicans have climbed by 5 points. Republican voters also are more attentive to the campaign, more enthusiastic about the election and more convinced that the outcome matters.” More from the poll: “In the swing states, Obama now trails former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney among registered voters by 5 points, 43% vs. 48%, and former House speaker Newt Gingrich by 3, 45% vs. 48%. That's a bit worse than the president fares nationwide, where he leads Gingrich 50%-44% and edges Romney 47%-46%.” Caveat: It’s striking to see this kind of discrepancy between the swing-state and nationwide numbers. So a bit of caution… By the way, today President Obama does a round of local news interviews -- three of four in swing states -- in Norfolk, VA, Pensacola, FL, Colorado Springs, CO, and Seattle.

*** NBC/WSJ poll day! Meanwhile, our national NBC/WSJ poll is released beginning at 6:30 pm ET. Who is leading the GOP horserace? What are the general election head-to-head numbers? How do Americans view Congress? Be sure to tune into NBC’s “Nightly News,” or click on to msnbc.com, starting at 6:30 pm.

*** On the 2012 trail: Romney raises money in Massachusetts… Paul holds a town hall in New Hampshire… Santorum makes multiple stops in Iowa… Huntsman appears on “The View”… And while Gingrich is down today, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal holds a press conference to unveil Gingrich supporters.

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I kind of feel bad for Newt Gingrich, he is in a lose lose situation. If he sits back and takes attacks from Romney, that would hurt him. If he retaliates and gives it back to Romney, he is seen as the "Old Newt" that people did not like in the past and he wouldn't have the opportunity to soften his image. I do believe however, Romney, who has felt comfortable for a long time as the frontrunner, does need little competition and I am glad he finally has it. This is good practice for him and will force him to be more assertive and tougher so he will be better prepared against Barack Obama's attacks in 2012 if he becomes the GOP candidate. I am just starting to see more of that agressive side of him. It's about time.

    Reply#26 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:04 AM EST

    Obama is the NEXT President Dee,thanks to the royal mismanagement of the GOP. As far as feeling sorry for NEWT !!!??? He is morally bankrupt ......who cares....

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    #26.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST

    hi cowboy the cowboys lost...i am about to go to the store please keep up the good work if you are not getting tea baggers 1% tea trash mad we are not doing our job

      #26.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:16 AM EST

      If he loses he will go out & get another wife who won't tell him to not campaign in some states

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      #26.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST
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      People how in the heck are you republicans going to save the day with mighty mouse..when mighty mouse did the damage how

        Reply#27 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:06 AM EST

        Like I said Romney will be the pick..Democrats this is a strategy from the republicans.get the bad apple in so Republicans will be force to vote for Romney

          Reply#28 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:08 AM EST

          Mormonism is a cult ! They believe that Jesus is satan's brother. That they shall die and become a god of there own planet. If you think it's not a cult watch a fact based movie " September Dawn". This really happened, and this is who they are ! Know who your voting for !

            Reply#29 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM EST

            I don't care if romney is satan's brother himself, as long as he keeps it out of the white house.

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            #29.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST

            but i thought it did matter Obama is a secret Muslim remember whats up

              #29.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM EST

              ah, yes, a "secret muslim"..on "double secret probation" no doubt. :)

                #29.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST

                you forgot huh

                  #29.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST

                  I forgot he was a secret muslim? how can I "forget" something that isn't real? :)

                    #29.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST

                    hahahaha,,don't tell the 1% tea trash they wont believe it

                      #29.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST
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                      Which one of these candidates is a veteran? Which one of Mitt's five, read:5!!!, sons is wearing a uniform? Where did Newt do his basic training? Huntsman? Romney had "religious objections", no doubt. And they are all talking negatively about Iran, basically instigating a war, yet none of the have any, ANY military experience. It's always easier, I guess, to send some other family's children to war than to either lead by example, which none of them have done, or appreciate your own children serving their country. Hawks always tell the doves what to do: I hope we are about to enter another Cambodia. And Mitt, Newt, and the other jugglers, I hope you get to Afghanistan before we're withdrawn; there are a few things you should see in person, up close before you start opening your mouths again.

                        Reply#31 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:12 AM EST

                        Ummm Fritz, I don't believe our current President had any military experience either so your argument is a bit weak. At least judge both sides by the same standards......

                          #31.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST

                          great points !!! and NEWTand MITTY are both talking like hawks,and up pipes Dick Cheney this morning.. Sorry Dick,you killed all the Americans you could with your WMD bull$hit....the Party of NO also says NO when its their turn to serve also...5 deferments for Cheney !!! his loud mouth obnoxious daughter needs to shut the hell up also !!! The Cheneys are pure EVIL !!!!!

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                          #31.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM EST

                          the difference is that the more hawkish your policies are, the more suspect you are if you don't have military experience or equivalent. I would say that the current GOP candidates are acting more hawkish than obama did, so the standard would, in fact, be higher for them.

                            #31.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 AM EST

                            heyKSW...you don't need experience to stop wars...especially needless wars started by misguided right wing HAWKS !!!

                              #31.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST

                              Hey cowboy17 - Nope you don't need experience to stop wars but it sure as hell helps if you are actually trying to win one. You can't have touchy feely politically correct playground rules in grown up disputes.

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                              #31.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST

                              vermontguy

                              the difference is that the more hawkish your policies are, the more suspect you are if you don't have military experience or equivalent. I would say that the current GOP candidates are acting more hawkish than obama did, so the standard would, in fact, be higher for them.

                              the facts say otherwise

                              1. Obama campaigned in 2008 on expanding the war in Afghanistan

                              2. Can you cite a single quote from either Gingrich or Romney about a plan to expand military action anywhere?

                                #31.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:09 PM EST

                                Newt is on record that he would not hesitate o begin a war with Iran when he takes office.

                                That is just not acceptable to most thinking people.

                                  #31.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:09 PM EST

                                  quote Sheila- show me a quote where Gingrich says he will go to war with Iran if elected

                                    #31.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:17 PM EST

                                    Maybe Mr Obama was a corpseman!

                                      #31.9 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:34 PM EST
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                                      If you want four (4) more years of economic disaster, continued high unemployment, higher taxes, Obamacare, lower real estate values, higher food prices, higher government deficits, more Obama socialism and class warfare continue to support Obama and his failed economic and social policies.

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                                      Reply#32 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM EST

                                      GW BUSH !!!!!! sound familiar BIGHORN !!!!????

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                                      #32.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:22 AM EST

                                      oh yeah that's Right let let the market control them selves like when rice went sky high..when they watch them selves and restaurants filled there store with rice under Bush watch Go republican ..they can fix themselves hahahaha

                                        #32.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 AM EST

                                        Bighorn,,, First thing, Obama Care is Romney & Newt Care, they helped write it... Ryan Care is far more costly & ends Medicare,,,,Newt is for the mandate..... Secondly, the economy crashed on the "Conservatives" watch do to no regulation of the banks & finance industry

                                        Thirdly, you still need to take a economics class, Voodoo Economics doesn't work & it takes federal spending to right our economic collapse, create jobs & keep America alive ---- It's "Smart Spending" to reduce long term Federal Spending & it's working

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                                        #32.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST

                                        ah., yes, "socialism". Anyone who really understands what that truly means wouldn't apply it here..if that word is used, you know the poster is just mindlessly repeating fox talking points.

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                                        #32.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:34 AM EST

                                        a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles

                                        In other words redistribution and "fairness". Sound like the road being paved by the administration to me.

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                                        #32.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:47 AM EST

                                        "sounds like the road being paved" is meaningless (but sounds good if you are trying to justify your own position, lol). Obama is a progressive democrat with keynsian spending plans. "Redistribution" via progressive policies like increasing tax rates have been a feature of both dems and repubs over time.

                                        I don't see companies being owned by "the people" under obama, so he isn't a socialist.

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                                        #32.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM EST

                                        Jim

                                        More lies from you-

                                        1. cite for me the specific sections of Obamacare that Gingrich helped write (and how he was able to do that as a nonmember of Govt

                                        2. Ryan's proposal was approx 800 billion less than Obamacare over a decade

                                        3. Medicare needs to be abolished- but Ryan's plan doesn't do that

                                        4. The economy crashed on the Democrats watch as we had record tax revenues and 4.6% unemployment before the Dems took over in 2007

                                        5. Federal Spending has NEVER restored economic growth and it is an oxymoron to claim that increased spending leads to reducing spending- nor have we ever reduced spending since the socialists took over govt approx 89 years ago.

                                        6. Conservatives did not eliminate banking or finance industry regulations- can you cite a bill that did so? There is not a single banking transaction that is not controlled by Federal regulations.

                                          #32.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:15 PM EST
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                                          You can expect sound and accurate advice about Conservative Presidential Candidates from Liberal Democrats.

                                          I'm sure they are in hopes the candidate with the best chance to beat their candidate will be the selection.

                                          Do farts have lumps ? . . . That's the only question.

                                            Reply#33 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST

                                            We have our candidate....!!! and yes...Newt has many LUMPS !!!! But if you really want an objective Dem's opinion (which I am sure you don't),Newt can not be elected President...PERIOD !! As a Dem I hope he is the nominee,but there are several GOP'ers that would have beat Obama,but they are not running...NO GUTS !!! But unless Huntsman or Paul make a BIG move...this thing is OVER !!!!

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                                            #33.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST

                                            Cowboy huh...........didn't you star in Broke Back Mountain?

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                                            #33.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:57 AM EST

                                            Your not the first person to think that Ed. Lol!

                                              #33.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM EST

                                              jolly

                                              grammar police,...I mean you were SO kind to prod others,...

                                              You're not going to like the way your spelling highlights your ignorance and all that. Did you hear me? Or can I point out other issues here?

                                                #33.4 - Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:22 PM EST
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                                                It is completely untruthful to claim that this is a Republican mess and we all know it. It is a bi-partisan mess that will require bi-partisan solutions. The rest is Rhetoric for the masses. Do not be a lemming and understand one thing. Obama is to much of an Ideologue to solve our problems and so is someone like Bachmann or Santorum. Newt whether you like him or not is the ONLY guy who has been bi-partisan when he worked with Bill Clinton, and it produced a balanced budget and some entitlement reform.

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                                                Reply#34 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM EST

                                                obviously this is a bi partisan mess and only a bi partisan solution will fix it. The interesting question is whether newt would act in such a way if he were president (as opposed to speaker of the house). If he goes off on another "will of the people political capital" spree like other presidents have, that would be a problem.

                                                I would say romney could be bi partisan too, given his centrist record.

                                                  #34.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:33 AM EST

                                                  Louis,,,, What planet are you on?

                                                  So far Obama has been solving our problems & he's intelligent & honest enough to tell you it's going to take the next administration to continue improving it

                                                  This was not just an ordinary recession or common market irregularity as conservatives tried to paint it... Their 2007 economic collapse was the worst in America's history & sent the global market into a deep recession & near collapse

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                                                  #34.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:43 AM EST

                                                  By the way Louis,,,, Bush's TARP Bailout worked ----- Without it we would have had a run on every bank & a sure depression

                                                  Obama's American Recovery & Reinvestment Act also worked & returned billions back to the taxpayer, & started policies to reduce long term federal spending which has already started happening --- And conservatives are still fighting against regulations that that brought about

                                                  Conservatives really suck on economic issues, why is it you can't figure that out?

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                                                  #34.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:48 AM EST

                                                  it's going to take the next administration to continue improving it

                                                  But I thought if Mr. Obama didn't fix it in short order he would be a "one and done" president (his words paraphrased). So I guess you are saying the Republicans are going to win. Not just the "next" administration, a different one. Got it. Newt. You hear that? Ball is going to be in your court.

                                                    #34.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:52 AM EST

                                                    Not likely Hand,,,,, It was both republican leaders who openly pledged from day 1 to stop Obama.. It's republicans who are the reason our Congress ignores our Constitution & has created this new "Super Majority" problem voting on every bill

                                                    It's republicans who want to eliminate everything he's done to make sure our nation's tax payers aren't held to bailing out their banks recreating the problems that put is in this situation

                                                      #34.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST

                                                      The problem has been that the only one willing to compromise IS THIS PRESIDENT! Not one Republican, candidate or otherwise, has broken step with their party! NOT ONE! They are incapable of independent thoughts or actions! If the ones who are more moderate would speak up and not go lock step with everyone else just because they thing they have to, things would be different! No government can run without compromise. The simple truth is, the Reputeabaggers would rather see this country go down the drain than work with this president, even though some of the legislation has been ones that the voted for before!

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                                                      #34.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM EST

                                                      Jim-372206

                                                      Not likely Hand,,,,, It was both republican leaders who openly pledged from day 1 to stop Obama.. It's republicans who are the reason our Congress ignores our Constitution & has created this new "Super Majority" problem voting on every bill

                                                      Cite for us the Democrats who pledged to see Bush re-elected?

                                                      Cite for us how Republicans ignore the constitution-specifically

                                                      It was the Democrats who created the Super Majority

                                                      the 60 vote rule was implemented by the Democrats, revising it downward from their own rule of a 2/3 majority in 1917.

                                                      In 1975, the Democratic Senate majority, having achieved a net gain of four seats in the 1974 Senate elections to a strength of 61 (with an additional Independent caucusing with them for a total of 62), reduced the necessary supermajority to three-fifths (60 out of 100).[9] However, as a compromise to those who were against the revision, the new rule also changed the requirement for determining the number of votes needed for a cloture motion's passage from those Senators "present and voting" to those Senators "duly chosen and sworn". Thus, 60 votes for cloture would be necessary regardless of whether every Senator voted. The only time a lesser number would become acceptable is when a Senate seat is vacant. (For example, if there were two vacancies in the Senate, thereby making 98 Senators "duly chosen and sworn", it would only take 59 votes for a cloture motion to pass.)[7]

                                                      The new version of the cloture rule, which has remained in place since 1975, makes it considerably easier for the Senate majority to invoke cloture. This has considerably strengthened the power of the majority, and allowed it to pass many bills that would otherwise have been filibustered.[citation needed] (The Democratic Party had held a two-thirds majority in the 89th Congress of 1965, but regional divisions among Democrats meant that many filibusters were invoked by Southern Democrats against civil rights bills supported by the Northern wing of the party.) Some senators wanted to reduce it to a simple majority (51 out of 100) but this was rejected, as it would greatly diminish the ability of the minority to check the majority.

                                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloture

                                                        #34.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:21 PM EST

                                                        Let's see....

                                                        Bush and the republicans had control of the white house for 8 years and control of congress for 6 years. During that time period they simply handed out money to the wealthy in many shapes and forms and now all they want to do is obstruct Obama from doing anything baout the problems.

                                                        I would say, yeah....we can easily say that the prior administration is responsible for the dilema that we have ourselves in. Unemployment went up as quickly as the stock market went down during the last days of GB II. And now all the GOP has to say is that GB II was not a true conservative???? What a bunch of horse hockey.

                                                          #34.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:21 PM EST
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                                                          The market sucks - it a ponzi scheme!!! And only the wealthy can really get wealthy from it!!

                                                          Total BS - not fair at all; rip off - need major mandatory reform!!!

                                                          The government should bail ALL Americans out by giving every Adult 18 or older now and then when one becomes 18 - a one time payment $20,000 to invest in Wall Street only...

                                                          That way everyone will have an equal chance to rip each others off!!!

                                                          And get a part of the NEW American PIE - the old definition of the American Pie; went away when George Bush came into office.

                                                          TRUTH - not CRAP

                                                          Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

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                                                          Reply#35 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:42 AM EST

                                                          YEP !!!

                                                            #35.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:52 AM EST

                                                            democratic soldier- you are a true marxist ideologue of redistribution of wealth

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                                                            #35.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:22 PM EST

                                                            Really, then You mean that all the money I have made in the past 10 years is not real. I know your going to say that people lost all their money, the one thing they all have in common is that they were not being responsible and watching their money. I watched everyday and when I saw the writing on the wall.....I moved my investments to RBC (Royal Banc of Canada).It appears our Conservative friends to the north dont seem to have the same issues we do. Up close to 36% in 2 1/2 years. And Cowboy what will you do when they all run out and spend it all. I live in Detroit proper, there was a one time $1800 payment made to people in the city, a lot of my neighbors qualified for it. For most of them that $1800 was spent within 2 days on Flat screens and spinnerwheels.

                                                              #35.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:47 PM EST
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                                                              Here is the BIG question...who is running for the COUNTRY and who is running for their own personal egotistical reasons ??? I don't think Newt or Mitt pass that test. Huntsman and Paul...maybe..OBAMA ...absolutely !!!!

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                                                              Reply#36 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM EST

                                                              Cowboy- one of the funniest posts of the day.

                                                              Obama is a complete narcissist.

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                                                              #36.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:23 PM EST

                                                              He does love himself some Obama, doesn't he!

                                                                #36.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:51 PM EST
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                                                                Newt controlled the House in '94 but not the Senate; he was, then, forced into a bipartisan stance on occasion. He also shut down the government twice and complained about his seating on Air Force One and used money he shouldn't have and was reprimanded and then his own party kicked him out as Speaker....but oh yeah, he worked so well as a non-partisan...c'mon. Sell that to the children.

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                                                                Reply#37 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST

                                                                Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party. Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009 as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011.

                                                                In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

                                                                For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a
                                                                massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

                                                                And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:

                                                                If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

                                                                If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

                                                                In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20t

                                                                Stay Focused,Connected, Informed & Inspired...

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                                                                Reply#38 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST

                                                                Your NUTSHELL is missing a couple of wars an unpaid PHARMA and the BUSH tax cuts,so shove those in your nutshell and you will be better informed and hopefully still inspired.

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                                                                #38.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM EST

                                                                It might help if you had just a little knolage of how the Governments works

                                                                The ONLY PLACE money is authorised to be spent is from the House of Represenative .. DOLT

                                                                not the White House. Are you a proud graduate of the 6th grade ?

                                                                Section 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes,
                                                                Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence
                                                                and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises
                                                                shall be uniform throughout the United States.

                                                                I doubt you recognise that last passage. It's from the Constitution.

                                                                not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer are we sheep herder

                                                                  #38.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST

                                                                  Ed...I theenk yer smelchek iz broked...and faktchek two....

                                                                    #38.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST

                                                                    I didn't really think you would recognize the Constitution, but one only needs to attempt to read that gobbledygook you just posted, which revealed your IQ is equal to that of a stool sample.

                                                                    Shame on me for trading jabs with someone that's obviously severely impaired .

                                                                    That's why incest is illegal. ( no we are not talking about illegal aliens. )

                                                                    never mind........I'm sure your a bright star with SEIU

                                                                      #38.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM EST

                                                                      Lmao. Thats just plain funny!

                                                                        #38.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:52 PM EST
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                                                                        The GOP candidates are more like the cast of Villains on BATMAN...Newty the Penguin,Mitt the RIDDLER,Michelle the Catwomen,Rick Perry is the Joker...all we need now is when the GOP debates they could put BAM and SOCKO and POWEE on the screen while they attack each other !!! Stay tuned tomorrow at the same BAT time and the same BAT channel !!! ( try not to picture Biden in Robins tights...that's a little scary ....)

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                                                                        Reply#39 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:50 AM EST

                                                                        The Republican Party along with the Tea Party have blocked every bit of legislation that they could, just so they could say this President has done nothing. No one is fooled by this except the right wingers who would not vote for a Democratic president no matter who was running! No one who is running on the RepuTea ticked is qualified enough, intelligent enough, or selfless enough! Romney, Gingrich, Bachman, Cain, Paul, Hunstman - not an intelligent or sustainable thought among them. They rewrite history at a drop of a hat, take money from organizations that they rail the Democrats for and LIE, over and over again, and you people still fall for it. It's time you remember, President Obama won the Presidency by a very big margin, ON COMPROMISE. People did not want the behind closed door crap that took place all of the time in the Bush administration! But, once again, the Reputeabags, ignored the people and decided they would rather destroy the middle class, than work with him. Anyone that condones, or can vote for such whiny losers as they are, needs more help than anyone can give them!

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                                                                        Reply#40 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST

                                                                        You're really falling for this BS too? The Democrats are purposefully putting forth legislation that no one in their right mind would vote for so that they can continue to play the blame game all the way up to the election. Never mind that they won't even look at legislation put forth by the Republicans let alone put anything to a vote. Then it would look as if BOTH sides were playing the same game. Go figure.

                                                                          #40.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:17 PM EST
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                                                                          Romney could be bi-partisan, this is true. I do not know what it is about him though, he just seems very flimsy. He still has time to build more confidence with the electorate. This will be a long haul. The only hope I see for Obama is the economy improving drastically, otherwise he will be forced to go negative and that is no sure thing for him but it will be all he has. It will also be very bad for the country for him to do that. We are polarized enough and for really no good reason. Our government has failed us. There is enough money to take care of the poor and have a strong entrepreneurial economy and country if we could get the ideologues out of Washington. It starts at the bottom. I know a lot of people hate the Tea Party and OWS but they have the right idea but not the right direction. Avoid Extremes.

                                                                            Reply#41 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:04 PM EST

                                                                            Who do you like, Gingrich? ---- You think he's got the experience conservatives are looking for?

                                                                            He got ran out of Congress by his own conservatives in disgrace & was fined over $300,000 on top of that!

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                                                                            #41.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:08 PM EST

                                                                            Jim..... Did he write a check for that $300k?

                                                                              #41.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:55 PM EST
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                                                                              I just love reading the posts on here. People who follow mindlessly behind these stupid politicians and argue to the death defending them. Life is too short to argue about BS. All politicians are products of our idiotic society, why would ANY of them be any different than ANY of us? Materialistic, uneducated, pretentious, lazy, greedy, Americans. Garbage in, garbage out.

                                                                              So sure that if Romney or Newt becomes President, everything will improve IMMEDIATELY. LOL!!!

                                                                              Of course, if it doesn't..., then what?

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                                                                              Reply#42 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:16 PM EST

                                                                              How are things in the monastery, Chris?

                                                                                #42.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST

                                                                                Romney & Newt,,,, Might happen, they both believe that "Polygamy Lite" is "Strength in Marriage",, One out of religious beliefs & the other out of habit

                                                                                  #42.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST

                                                                                  Hey !!! Newt is the only adulterer in the room !!!!!

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                                                                                  #42.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST

                                                                                  small room isnt it!

                                                                                    #42.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:11 PM EST
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                                                                                    Ron Paul voted agaisnt TARP, against the unconstitutional Iraq war, has proposed ending ALL foreign aid and entanglements, let's fix our own house, and is the only candidate on either side who has any sort of plan to balance the federal budget and end this nightmare of increasing foreign debt. National debt affects ALL of us, left right and in between. Inflation is undeniably real, how much did a candy bar or gallon of milk cost 20,30,40 years ago? Inflation is a killing hidden tax that clobbers the poor and middle class. Everyone can agree on that point as well. How is this man called "extreme" "kooky" "unelectable". Proposing to change the status quo is why. The man isn't perfect but he is a change in national direction. I agree with the Obama posters here in their saying that some of his problems are inheirited from Bush Jr. But what about the "National Defense Authorization Act?" Research it people! This act has a clause in it that declares the United States of America a "battlefield in the War on Terror" and authorizes the military to detain an American citizen on American soil INDEFINETLY without being charged with a crime or a trial!! Goodbye habeus corpus!!! This act was penned by McCain (R) and Rangel (D) Both the mainstream parties are to be blamed.

                                                                                      Reply#43 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:22 PM EST

                                                                                      A lot of Congressmen voted against Bush's TARP ----- And none of them new the problems especially Ron Paul & Bachmann, that lack of knowledge extended throughout both political parties in the House & Senate..... It stopped a national run on the banks & a depression

                                                                                        #43.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:28 PM EST

                                                                                        Hmmm...a quick bit of research on the clause slipped into the annual National Defense Authorization Act. I believe Obama has stated he'll veto the bill if passed with the clause. Feinstein also apparently secured an amendment to the effect that the clause will have no impact on existing law...whatever that means? Don't believe the Senate bill has passed the House yet and it may be blocked there, if the clause is not removed.

                                                                                        The clause was apparently drafted by McCain (R) and Levin (D). And, it would seem everyone from the ACLU to the Libertarian Party opposes it. I would also doubt that even if passed, it would be declared unconstitutional.

                                                                                        I would like to hear McCain's and Levin's justification for such a clause.

                                                                                          #43.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST
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                                                                                          Doesn't matter which one ends up at the top, or whether they win next November. Whoever wins will be dealing with the largest leagal casino where all members (players) always win triple points and are sure to have a pay day for life. A large socialist pension and cadilac socialist healthcare plan, all paid for with tax money. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Cut, cut, cut. Socialist, socialist, socialist. Go build another battle boat, we really need that.

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                                                                                          Reply#44 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST

                                                                                          Toby,,, Get off the ignorant "Socialism" rants... Every time a conservatives goes there it show's their lack of knowledge & embarrasses the GOP

                                                                                          Every conservative President has supported & even brought on their own "Socialist" programs, Ronald Reagan who said people have an inalienable God given right to join a union, took "Pure Socialism" to the Ukraine

                                                                                          The Affordable Health Care act is working & it was 1st written by conservatives to block Hilary Care,,, Romney's own staff helped Obama write his..... Gingrich was all for the "Mandate"

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                                                                                          #44.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM EST

                                                                                          Jim.....I agree that the socialist rant is too much, but you can't deny that we are headed down the path to socialism step by step with many of these programs. The Affordable Care Act is not working in my opinion and we will see more and more problems as time goes along. First, it is making things less affordable, so its name is a lie. Second, it put fear into many businesses, which kept them from hiring people. Third, we are going to spend more on health care as a country, which will create a doctor shortage and make things more expensive. Also, don't put too much stock in what Romney and Gingrich started. Conservative voters have never, ever liked the idea, regardless of who proposed it. We threw fits and called their offices upset back then too.

                                                                                            #44.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM EST

                                                                                            Coming from someone who's health insurance has more than doubled and covers far less than what I had 2 years ago and can no longer afford to cover my family, where does the "Affordable" part come in?

                                                                                              #44.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:23 PM EST

                                                                                              They will take a knife to the heart rather than admit its horrible bill. My wife is disabled (genetic bone disease) I pay for her main insurance and a supplemental. The supplemental comp. tried to cancel our policy stating the new Healthcare law made it unprofitable. My lawyer convinced them a contract is a contract and they caved. However we are now paying almost 27% higher premiums this year and Im told will be going up in the next few years to 50%. Is that the affordable part of this bill?

                                                                                                #44.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:19 PM EST
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                                                                                                It will be obvious when the Republican Party gets the message as they will stop running “puppet” candidates like O’Donnell, Palin, Cain, Perry, Bachmann and Gingrich; not only will the controlled performances of Cantor and Ryan cease but also the arrogance and belligerence of Boehner and McConnell will be rejected; and especially, intimidators like Grover Norquist will no longer exist within the Party; ... then it will be apparent that they once again have a conscience and concern for the people and that, while still conservative, they no longer are owned and controlled by “the money”. Until then the voters need to recognize and be wary of their total focus on only the interests of “the few” and their complete dependence on, with the strong overt and covert support of their powerful, influential and very wealthy supporters who “pull their strings”, being able to con the people and manipulate public opinion ... being cocky with the confidence that they can use the majority as “pawns”, even emboldened by past successes like the manipulation of the Evangelistic Christian, the Swift-boat propaganda and the Tea Party Movement, all being well designed, well directed and well funded efforts to sway people in the same single direction. They should neither be underestimated nor taken lightly as the result could be a return to “more of the same”, Bush-Cheney style, where the “trickle down” theory will once again prove to be the fraud that just makes the wealthy wealthier and solidifies political support from “the money”. This country really has to break the continuing spiral that moves us ever closer to being just a “two-Class” society with “the few” (1%) competing in having it all and the majority (99%) struggling. To doubt that is to ignore the results we have experienced, which speak much louder than the deceptive rhetoric always offered.

                                                                                                  Reply#45 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:36 PM EST

                                                                                                  Don't be too critical of the republicans and ignore the democrats. The democrats are puppet candidates as well. What have the democrats done to help the middle class? Nothing of substance, yet they continue to support the wealthy bankers, wall st., and hedge fund managers, who support them.

                                                                                                    #45.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:06 PM EST

                                                                                                    I can tell you 1 thing I know! And NO one can dispute this, its a matter of record. If you want to see what the real parties all about and I dont even have to tell you which party. Look at the past 20 years of Detroit history, in particular the last 15 years through to Kwame Kilpatrick. Dont worry if you thought the trials were over with Blago's conviction. Wait until the federal racketeering charges are brought to trial in our city.

                                                                                                      #45.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST
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                                                                                                      America is in a new ERA. Our government will control it's citizens -now by any means necessary. Under whatever circumstance they deem appropiate.

                                                                                                      Think about it? People are begging to disapprove the greedy ways of our fellow citizens- the government is more interested in protecting the wealthy... People will begin to revolt; this new law(you speak about Eddie Harris) is just a form of "marshall law" that will be already in the books when the time comes.

                                                                                                      No matter how much the 98% protest or people hit the streets - nothing will change.

                                                                                                      Higher prices for goods and services and poorer people will be the norm- so there has to be a law that gives an excuse to lock the noise makers away for a long time.

                                                                                                      The United States of America is on the path of Armageddon - it's coming sooner than ever before!!!

                                                                                                      TRUTH - not CRAP

                                                                                                      Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

                                                                                                        Reply#46 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:43 PM EST

                                                                                                        Armageddon happened back in the time of Isaiah.... They missed the bus by several thousand years

                                                                                                        The United States is on the road to recovery,, It has nothing to do with God & everything to do with the policies of this President

                                                                                                          #46.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:50 PM EST

                                                                                                          You have a warped view of the truth. Much of what you say is true, but for different reasons. For starters, the reason we will have higher prices for goods and services for the poor and middle class is because of our spending and debt, not businesses. As we print more money and take on more debt, our dollar is worth less, so it takes more of them to buy the same things we used to. The government has always protected the wealthy and we have always protested the greedy ways. If you want things to change, then we need to stop the democrat vs. republicans. That isn't the issue. It is about electing people that will stop giving gifts to special interests.

                                                                                                            #46.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:52 PM EST

                                                                                                            You also need to understand the need for maintaining a weak dollar... All administrations use that method to assist trade & make economic adjustments that are necessary.... Is there a risk in that? Yes, but it's an educated risk that can be managed. It serves a purpose even if it does sound bad

                                                                                                              #46.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM EST

                                                                                                              I agree, but that is the case up to a point. Too much inflation from a weak dollar is a bad thing. The problem is when people blame oil companies or other companies for the increased cost when it is a symptom of the weak dollar.

                                                                                                                #46.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 PM EST
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                                                                                                                Romney acts like a Dimocrat,an embarrassment to the Republican Party,and the Nation....

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                                                                                                                Reply#47 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:46 PM EST

                                                                                                                So does Gingrich,, Conservatives are real concerned about him as well ---- Neither of them are "True Conservatives"

                                                                                                                  #47.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:00 PM EST
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                                                                                                                  you got it right e- payne

                                                                                                                    Reply#48 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:50 PM EST

                                                                                                                    You'll notice a theme in the Conservative postings herein, HATE, ANGER, FEARMONGERING.

                                                                                                                    I used to be a Republican but I'm now an Independent (we who will decide this next election). I am fed up with the pseudo-Conservative candidates and bloggers who speak with forked-tongue and display no facts about the subjects. Their only responses are full of hate, anger and name-calling. We as a country do not need any more of that!

                                                                                                                      Reply#49 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:53 PM EST

                                                                                                                      Suzq- hate, anger, and fearmongering are the Standard response of LIBERALS

                                                                                                                      emotionalism over fact is the purview of LIBERALS

                                                                                                                      Your post reveals that you are a liar about being an independent.

                                                                                                                      You are everything you say you despise

                                                                                                                        #49.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:29 PM EST
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                                                                                                                        My, aren't we Liberal? What are the libs going to do if their support for Romney's Socialized Medicine record gets him the heave-ho? They'll have to deal with Newt, a Republican majority, and prosperity for our citizens! What a disaster that would be for rags like "First Read!"

                                                                                                                          Reply#50 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:00 PM EST

                                                                                                                          Concerned,,,,, Maybe if you had listened to liberals a long time ago you wouldn't be left with a difficult choice of picking between the lessor of the most evil fraudulent Reagan Conservative posers in the race & a Millionaire Mormon

                                                                                                                            #50.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:04 PM EST
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                                                                                                                            I was a member of the Republican Party from the Democratic Party's nomination of George McGovern, to the Republican Party's nomination of George W. Bush.

                                                                                                                            The Republican Party is now in the process of destroying itself. Perhaps, once the fire is out it will rise from its ashes.

                                                                                                                              Reply#51 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:07 PM EST

                                                                                                                              only a communist would vote for someone like obama, if thats who you voted for that should tell you how you are politically, you and every other socialist commy who voted for him

                                                                                                                                #51.1 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 PM EST

                                                                                                                                That's funny, especially since Obama is the Ronald Reagan conservatives can't find among their own

                                                                                                                                  #51.2 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:17 PM EST

                                                                                                                                  This comment only proves your ignorance of the issues. Obama is not now, nor has he ever been a communist! He believes that people have the right to a fair wage, health care and a decent home! What is wrong with that? That used to be the American dream! You want to call it communism or socialism, I call it humanitarian. The cost of the uninsured outweighs any costs of the Affordable Care Act. Do your homework before you spout off with such nonsense. I would rather vote for Mickey Mouse than any of the Reputeas running right now! Obama at least cares about the average American. The Reputeas stopped caring about us a long time ago!

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                                                                                                                                  #51.3 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:17 PM EST

                                                                                                                                  just because your at the bottom of the totem pole doesnt make you the average american, most all know the average americans are actually tea party guys, not those lookin for a free handout like you teresa

                                                                                                                                    #51.4 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 PM EST

                                                                                                                                    Hahaha...the Limbaughger is a paid DNC operative...who enjoys sarcasm...as well as the spread of counter-propaganda. He's the Mad Magazine "Spy," who is spying on the spy, who is spying on the spy...ad infinitum. The counter-counter-counter agent.

                                                                                                                                      #51.5 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 PM EST

                                                                                                                                      Dear Limbaugher, thank you for proving my point! I work for a living, thank you. And, no thanks to the Reputeabaggers! It's people like you who also probably call yourself a Christian! LOL and yet you won't lift a finger to help those less fortunate without belittling them over it! I suppose you went to a private school and paid your way through college without scholarships or grants. I suppose you have never had to work for minimum wage and know that because of the richest in this country, your situation might never change! No one who is rich or wealthy got there on their own! Someone had to help or invest. Well, I work, I don't qualify for help of any kind, although my family could use it! Our family is struggling directly because of Bush/Cheney! Maybe your argument would have more teeth if you stopped calling names and listened to the truth. But, with your mentality, I am just wasting my time!

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                                                                                                                                      #51.6 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:38 PM EST

                                                                                                                                      we believe you should help yourself and not rely on uncle sam

                                                                                                                                        #51.7 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:50 PM EST

                                                                                                                                        Then end the tax breaks, deferments, subsidies, tax credits and free hand outs to the wealthy.

                                                                                                                                        Practice what you preach!!!!! The wealthy have far more to loose than the poor.

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                                                                                                                                        #51.8 - Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:47 PM EST
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