GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry gets tongue-tied during a recent interview over the name of Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. NBC's Carrie Dann reports.
DES MOINES, IA -- The flubs keep on coming.
In yet another campaign day marred by a slip-up, Texas Gov. Rick Perry produced headlines today during an important editorial board interview with the Des Moines Register -- not for his impassioned defense of a controversial new TV ad about his faith, but instead for a mealy-mouthed screw up.
"Montemayor?" he said, struggling to name one of the nine Supreme Court justices. He went on to blast the court as "eight unelected and frankly unaccountable judges. "
There are nine.
Since his infamous inability to remember the third of three government agencies he'd eliminate during the CNBC debate in Michigan last month, Perry's every verbal pratfall has offered the lead paragraph in news stories and the lead joke in late-night comedy shows. Mistakes that might be downplayed from more consistently articulate candidates get spotlight treatment for the Texas pol, whose "swagger" narrative deteriorated quickly as his gaffes grew more and more frequent.
Friday's torrent of "Brain Freeze Again?" headlines was reminiscent of those after a recent campaign stop in New Hampshire, where Perry's pitch to repair his damaged credentials on border security were derailed by a numerical mixup. "Those of you that will be 21 by November the 12th, I ask for your support and your vote," he declared to titters from those who recognized the voting age error. (Oh, and the election isn't on the 12th.)
Trying to correct for the bungle, Perry took to the TV airwaves to discuss his efforts to perform well in the "New Hampshire caucuses."
They're primaries.
Oops.
The growing vulnerability isn't lost on the candidate himself. As recently as yesterday, when the campaign hoped to make a splash by highlighting Perry's support from veterans, he grimly predicted that a brief mixup of Iran and Iraq at a South Carolina town hall would be "on the front page of the something."
Maybe not the "front page," but the Associated Press and countless other outlets wrote about it.
Many in Team Perry privately express frustration that the flubs are written about with such emphasis in comparison to Perry's rivals. Conservative commentators frequently point to what they see as undercoverage of President Barack Obama's misstatements (see: states, 57). And the campaign has openly pushed to make the infamous "oops" soundbite into a "human moment" rather than as a devastating display of mental floundering.
At least some voters see it that way.
When the candidate's wife knocked on her door last month in Spartanburg, SC -- when the "oops" moment was at its rawest -- retiree Martha Williams mentioned the flub unsolicited, causing winces from the assembled staff.
"That's all right, I thought it was quite funny," Williams went on. "I think it shows he's a human."
"He is," Anita Perry responded. "Thank you."


Perry:
...done and done!
WOOHOO!
FIRST!
Thowing a campaign together in a few weeks is never a good idea. You are witnessing the results of it!
Yeah, he's the governor of my state, but, what a dingus! If we can't agree on a major candidate, --maybe we should settle on Buddy Roemer?
WHAT has happened to the Republican Party? Yes, both parties are owned and operated by financial institutions and global corporations, but at least the Democrats manage to get out complete sentences. Meanwhile, courting its hateful, backwards "Base" is sending the whole GOP straight off a cliff.
Are bad manners, the morals of a crackhead used car salesman, and/or being dumber than a rock the Greedy Obnoxious Plutocrats' bottomline requirements for a run at public office?
And the problem is, his gaffes are not funny. W. sounded like a jolly old guy whenever he said something stupid. And God bless his heart, but the guy just couldn't stop saying the most ridiculous things. "Humans and fish should coexist peacefully," "is our children learning?". I mean, cut him some slack. Perry? I don't know, he just sounds like he's trying so hard to be critical about everything and everyone that he can't help but show his stupidity every time he opens his mouth.
Rick Perry and Donald Trump deserve each other.
On second thoughts, maybe Texas should succeed from US.
We should change Bush's initiative to No Retard Left Behind
How does he channel G.W. Bush so well?
The comedy channel in print.
Don't stop him now!
Oh come on guys, cut Reverand Perry some slack, after all he's much more intelligent than George W. Bush and we all know what a fantastic president he turned out to be.
Congrats, First. I wish this guy would stay in the race. He's like some character that you can laugh at--and be thankful that you have more gray matter that that idiot. Cain too. That guy was as dumb as a bag of rocks and a damned fetch for the Koch Brothers. Hang in there guys---great for Daily Show and Colbert listeners.
Perry doesn't have a thing to fear in this race, other than himself. With each screwup, he takes himself that much further out of the race. Open mouth, insert foot, fall on face.
He reminds me of George W Bush back in the early days!
The whole bunch of them (Republican Cadidates) Are like a bad comedy show from Cain to Perry and everything in between. akes you wonder should this not be the best of the best not the worst of the lot......
And Obama thinks that there are 57 states. So many politicians make mistakes while speaking. I suppose that most of you commenting on here have never made any kind of goofy speech error. I don't like Perry for President, but he's just human. Obama has made a long list of stupid remarks but you folks ragging on Perry in here are not willing to recognise that. Not to mention that Obama is the worst President that this country has ever seen. He is totally incompetent and surrounded by gangsters and criminals, many of which have left his cabinet.
Perry is a great argument for intelligence testing of people before they are allowed to vote. After all some really stupid people elected Perry governor. Such an obviously stupid and careless electorate is why government is filled with charlatans and scoundrels today.
The idiot Marxist President is keeping up with Perry on the gaffe front. Yesterday the pernicious racist lit every candle on the menorah. Once again the "mental giant" offends one of our allies that he obviously detest, along with Great Britain and Canada.
We can add this one to his visiting all 57 states. And informing us that Hawaii is in Asia. And on, and on, and on
In combination, Perry & Bush remind me of these two stooges.
http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/guess-what-happens-next---pickup-in-the-driveway
Just how many Republican Texas governors does it take to screw in a light bulb? Or, in the words of Fox News' Charles Krauthammer, to vomit all over themselves??
I certainly don’t envy any of the Republican candidates. They are on their toes 7 days a week (only god knows how many hours each day), exposed to media scrutiny and relentlessly hounded by critics for any hic-ups that occur during their countless interviews. Their families are also considered to be fair game!
Let’s face it, all politicians from time to time put their foot wrong, including the Democrats. There is therefore no need to get too excited about this.
Texas is the finest portion of the globe that has blessed my vision
- Sam Houston
And the state of Texas has elected and re-elected Perry to run their state? guffaw, ha ha, belly laugh. And a great deal of big money has been given him to run for president of the free world, USA? roflmao,,,,,,,,,Tpubs, keep up the good work, you are fast tearing down the Repub. party. guffaw, tee hee. On a serious note, between Perry, Gingrich, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and Romney, us Dems are lovin' it.
Mistakes are one thing. Perry is another.
Doesn't know how many justices are on the Supreme Court. Doesn't know what the legal voting age is. And that is just the last two times he opened his mouth.
I'll give him his gaff about not knowing what agencies he would cut, but to not know the voting age and how many justices the SCOTUS has, while saying he will put Christianity back on top claiming Obama has declared war on it, and you have one dangerously dumb person.
Is he even polling the margin of error anymore? To even attempt to defend his obvious ignorance of the basics is at the very least, mystifying.
For me, this has gone beyond funny - his candidacy is an affront to the American people.
Obama is correct, there are 50 states and 7 territories of the United States that participate in the primaries. He is also correct that Hawaii is part of Asia according to geographic location. It's sad to see an intelligent man criticized for his intelligence by stupid uneducated people. Rick Perry is a moron, just like Bush, Palin, Bachman, Cain, Trump.... Basically everyone the GOP has attempting to run against him falls in that category. Unless you're millionaires, Obama is looking out for your interest. It's a shame there are Americans who don't see that the republican party is only interested in pushing their beliefs on everyone and worship the almighty dollar. Personally I would like to see the millionaires pay the same percentage of tax that I do. Further proof that having money gets you special treatment.
Keep making excuses for the Idiot & Chief
"I can see Mexico from my house... You betcha!"
Splitting migraine,
That's not what President Obama meant, though. He very simply mis-spoke. In 2008, He said that he had been to 57 states with one more to go, when what he meant was that he had been 47 states with one more to go. He was referring to the continental US states because he wasn't planning on visiting Alaska and Hawaii on that campaign jaunt.
Everyone is capable of mis-speaking.
However, when you mis-speak as consistently as Rick Perry does, eventally people will begin to think you're ignorant. Which, of course, he is.
@Splitting Migraine, you of course realize Obama and his wife were a part of the 1% prior to his becoming president? Of course you don't. Of course he has our interest at heart, not. Most of the millionaires you want to pay the same percentage that you do, actually pay, dollar for dollar about 400-500% what you pay. I wonder what the Obama's tax statement reads the last 3 years? Since your already sold on the alternative facts, I will let you drink the obama-aid, you can find it in DC labeled Poli(TICS)ans found oozing from every corner.
This pernicious narcissist Marxist President has done more to destroy the country that he detest from within over the past three years, than any enemy has ever done or will ever do.
Mistaking a name? Come on....what about Obama saying "If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor”. We didn’t hear much about that, now a Republican mistakenly says a name???? Another example of the media backing the Democrats. Liberal hypocrisy at its best raises its ugly head. Come on Comrades you can do better than that.
Yes, dan, we've all misspoken at one time or another, and so has Obama. But Perry is like a broken clock, only right 2 times a day.
In your opinion Obama is this nation's worst president, and it is your right to hold this belief. After 3 years in office, he certainly has come down a couple of notches in my estimation. But, sorry, in my opinion Bush has him completely eclipsed all his competition as an incompetent President: a man who led us back into budgetary deficits, politicized essential government agencies, such as FEMA, and worst of all initiated a reckless, dishonest and poorly planned invasion of Iraq.
As far as I'm concerned, Obama could do anything short of trading New Jersey to Russia for the coldest, most barren equivalent stretch of Siberia, and still be a better President than that idiot from Texas.
Regarding Perry, everybody is entitled to an occasional verbal gaffe, but he's used up an entire decades allotment, and his campaign is only 6 months old.
You just can't hide stupid.
By the way, what is Palin up to lately?
Calling everyone else stupid is a stupid campaign strategy when your grasp of numbers, names, branches of government, governmental departments, the economy, and geography are non-existent.
Melissa-1175724-1762238......As a used car salesman for many years I deeply resent being referred to in the same paragraph as these loser candidates. You owe all used car salesmen an apology !
Everybody knows there are 57 states!
Want to do a gaffes per number of words, or gaffes per day, or gaffes per speech comparison? :)
As a former die-hard Republican, I take issue with trying to compare Rick Perry to George W. Bush. Even though I now disagree with so much the former President Bush said and did, he was at least an intelligent man that graduated from Yale and has an MBA (I know many of you will argue this point, and certainly have the right to do so - but this is MY opinion). Rick Perry was a bad student at a mediocre institution. Complain about intellectuals and elitism all you want, but I would much prefer to have someone at the helm that has a 3 digit I.Q.
Mitt Romney will do whatever it takes to get a vote. We should call him I-Hop for his love of the waffle.
Newt Gingrich is just a mean spirited d-bag that will say anything bad about a Democratic idea or initiative if it will strengthen his support from the far right.
Ron Paul is the only guy in the race that has stayed true to his values and has some ideas that will have traction in the middle where the war will be won.
Michelle Bachman - why are we even talking about her? I think Herman Cain will do better in the polls and he has already "suspended" his campaign.
Here is some food for thought, and feel free to comment (as I'm sure you will): The battle of the Primaries will be won by the candidate that is the furthest from the center. The battle of the Presidency will be won by the candidate that is closest to the center.
The Tea Party is the only thing actually impeding a Republican white house. The battle is still going to be decided by the independent voters. Argue all you want, but history has proven this hypothesis time and time again.
Funny how those deft conservatives can't stop harping about the 57 state thing, as if Obama makes such mistakes every day. He doesn't, so is that really all you've got?! Please!
Texas - after foisting that pathetic little toad Bush on our good nation, you deserve every ounce of Rick Perry!! So now go choke on him, because he defines exactly what you are!
I never thought anybody could come close to beating palin. God .... I just love the republicans.
Somebody ask him to spell POTATOE (sic)!
Actually Obama made quite a few when he was campaigning for President and he still makes them. Just recently he referred to the storming of the British Embassy in Iran as the "English" Embassy. He referred to France as America's "closest" ally. When making a speech at the conference recently in Hawaii, he described his location as "Asia". That one is pretty bad considering he was born there! Let's not even talk about the blunders our VP Biden has made!
The point being they all make blunders in the press. I wouldn't vote for Perry on a dime, but really... I don't care what blunder's they make, I only care if they can run this country without running it into the ground.
We do need at least one or two from this GOP circus to believe they can run as an Independent. Ron Paul has the best chance as an Independent. Newt's ego might be big enough and since the GOP threw him out once before, running as an Independent might bolster both his book sales and ego. But do be aware of what's happening in your state as the Koch bros keep throwing money at state candidates to do their bidding. Wisconsin is now stuck with trying to undo a Koch bros deed by recalling Scott Walker. Vote out all the TPers and GOP.
Support Wisconsin - RECALL WALKER!!!
Everyone makes mistakes in speech.... and never gets it perfect. However, seems to me, Perry sure has made quite a few here recently. Hello to the male version of Sarah Palin....
This is kind of indicative of the ill education in the United States. I bet half of the people on here who are blasting either Perry or Obama, couldn't name all the 50 states on a map, let alone all 9 supreme court justices.
The rainman strikes again. Rick Perry is the Democrat Party Santa Claus only this gift just keeps giving.
I think that CLB and Bob have it dead on. They point to philosophy and issues. Most of the rest of you point to second grade tactics.
I'll toss in some Irony. I've always found it ironic that our leaders will verbally assault each other in the same party, and then take side and verbally attack the other party, but none will stand up and all out the 5 year old brat country when it acts like a brat out of fear that we may offend it. The country? CHINA
Comparing President Obamas rare "misspeaks" with Perrys huge and frequent gaffs, is comparing apples to a-bombs. This is a common GOP ploy. You defend filibusters by the GOP by saying the Dems did it too, although the GOP has done it more in the last 3 years than in history prior to that and it is being used to produce 100& obstruction now. You point out thet Dems get big money from rich donors but fail to mention that the GOP gets 80% of it's money from the rich while the larger share of Obamas contributions were from small dollar donors. You just seem to have a problem with understanding the concept of magnitude. No surprise that you seem to support either dumb or corrupt candidates. If I were a republican I would discard the idiots in the field then discard the crooks. You would be left with Romney, Paul, Huntsman and Roehmer. Then I would reject them on philosophy.
All Texans in high places have been the bane of the Union, no need to name them all but one Charlie Wilson who in sharing with the Islam fascists the weaponry, intelligence and methods of guerrilla warfare conspired in our own undoing - 9/11 and the aftermath. Bush, the elder, and his Machiavellian oil cartel conspiracy with Saudi Wahhabists monarchy to Sunnify the Middle East and beyond, all driven by greed, brought the state of the nation to what it is today. Not another Texan! Please. Anyhow, when Herman Cain left the stage, the Republican Party already lost the race to the White House. We need people who think long term, strategists, not those who look for short term gains like allowing Mexicans into to the country by the millions just to win elections and appeasing Islamism in sheer denial that it is the enemy, just as Nazism was.
Well writtem dman.
I have always said our candidates are a reflection of the people. I would bet if you go out on the street and ask people how many justices are on the Supreme Courty, 98%+ of the time you'd get the wrong answer.
A good number of Germans laughed at Hitler in the mid to late 1920's and we all know what happened. The longer these guys hang around, the stupider this country looks. It's time to disperse these clowns. Cain, thankfully is gone. Perry, Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich should also go. It's becoming apparent that the only real challenger to Obama is going to be Mitt Romney. The others like Ron Paul and John Huntsman just don't have the support. Face it, unless something major happens, it's going to be almost impossible to unseat the President. That's why Daniels and Christie bowed out.
These republican debates are way funnier than any of the sit-coms....
Aw C'mon....Give Slick Rick a break. You expected this Texas Good Ole Boi to actually know a single thing that goes on outside his own precious, super-powerful state? He's probably the only Texan this year who actually traveled outside his own state.
That insularity is why it's a very dangerous thing to elect a Texan to the White House. The Texas government brand gets stamped on everything whether or not other states want to be Texified.
Stand by gang...Next is the Flake Newster's turn to start going political postal with his radical extremism. The dirty little secret about Newt is his own party is hoping and praying he doesn't win. That leaves Romney. Sadly, those fundamental evangelists will never elect a Mormon all the while denying their religious bias.
Let's not forget all those funny moments brought to us by our friends at the DMC! Those great belly laughs with Joe F. Bomb Biden and those grand chuckles at Barry, I can't read a teleprompter, Obama. Hysterical fun. Barney Frank and those madcap twins Nancy and Harry. Simply the best comedy in the land. Too sad it isn't a show and these stupid fools hold office.
If these jokers are elected again we will be laughing all the way to the poor house with these lovable bumbling idiots for another season of gags and giggles.
Nothing EVER compares to the pathos humor of Republicans. So funny all you can do is cry.
Boy is this a real stretch. That is not what he said, there was nothing about primaries in his sentence. We have 9 territories, regardless of whether they participate in the primaries or not.
This is just another reminder on how bad our school system is in this country. Hawaii is not part of Asia, nor is it part of North America Geographically. Islands located near a continent are generally considered part of that continent. Greenland, is politically part of Europe but belongs geographically to North America, as do the islands of the Caribbean and the western North Atlantic Ocean. The islands and island groups that are not considered part of any continent, geographically, are New Zealand, HAWAII.
Like the pot calling the kettle black...
Why would anyone want to elect another yahoo from Texas who can't walk and chew gum at the same time?
Stick a fork in him. Rick Perry is done.
Let me add...The islands and island groups that are not considered part of any continent, geographically, are New Zealand, HAWAII & French Polynesia.
Bob: Thank you for an educated comment. Despite the political differences we may have (and believe me, we have), at least you did not embark in the 'venting' attitude of some of the posters on this forum. While some may have used sarcasm in their comments (some are hilarious, honestly), some chose the cheap shot and aggression. When are we going to measure our politicians but their ideas? I don't think that Perry is an idiot; otherwise I would have to think that the people of Texas are either idiots (for voting him into office) or naive (for allowing themselves to be schemed). They are sadly misinformed, sadly because if you're running for office you should know beforehand the scrutiny to which you or any candidate will be subjected, yet they keep on making these assertions without even thinking of what is coming out of their mouth.
I much agree with your assertions as to how the electoral process will be played, but I have the feeling that the American people was 'brainwashed' politically speaking. The mere move of a government to the left makes everybody shivers and scream bloody communist, as if they really would know the difference between a socialist state and a communist one. They don't even stop to consider if they are the same thing, which obviously they're not, but what the heck, they think that we are going to speak Russian.
I happen to teach international business and my students brought to my attention that despite the economic crisis that is affecting the world right now, some of the 'socialist' countries they really fear are doing much better than us. Iceland, the second country affected by the real estate bubble of 2008, dropped its unemployment from 9.3 to 6.7 and it is expected to continue its decline. Why? Because in order to stabilize the markets and promote employment, the government change the rules of the game and set stricter laws, and also because in order to change the lack of trust in government, they investigated, prosecuted and incarcerated the people responsible for the economic crisis in the country. With a government leaning to the left and a lesbian as a prime minister (elected by the people of Iceland, you can imagine here the ruckus?) they are returning the status they had before the crisis, when at one point (2007) they have an unemployment rate of 0.8 %.
We on the other hand we are heading to the cliff by being intolerant and arrogantly stupid. Congress is an institutionalized joke and the argument now is not Democrats v. Republicans, but the have v. the have not. And I am not talking about the person that rather be unemployed and living out of welfare because they choose to do it (those are the exception, not the rule), I am talking of the average American who has two jobs (sometimes more) to sustain a family and cannot make ends meet (and not even requesting help from the government). Instead of looking for ways to get out of this mess we're in, our politicians (and most of the people in these forums; go to a conservative forum and it is exactly the same) engage in a senseless ideological arguments. We simply rant at each other and threaten each other like if venting our frustrations would at any point change the course of the nation. “We must hang together, or assuredly we will hang separately.” (Benjamin Franklin)
For information on economic indicators, please the Central Bank of Iceland webpage at http://cb.is/lisalib/getfile.aspx?itemid=9259 (there you can find the figures I was mentioning).
Yep. What a quandary! What a conundrum! (Look it up in the dictionary, Tea Partyers).
What's a conservative to do but pray for a new Republican Messiah to roll away the stone and emerge into the political light, ready to challenge that *cue scary music* dark, evil incumbent. OOOh...
Stay tuned for the rapture. ;)
When you talk about Bush's education at Yale please remember that he was a "legacy" student there. His family, as far back as his grandfather, had given so much money to the university's endowment that even as a drooling moron Bush would have been admitted to Yale and permitted to remain in school with a "C" average (known as a "gentleman's C ) for the four drunken years he spent there. Perry, who in truth is no dumber than Bush could not afford the phony education that Bush's family provided. Further, for the first twenty years of his adult life Bush was a drunken dope head. Again, his family's wealth could provide him with the best handlers who occasionally were able to keep Bush's foot from entering his mouth. Remember, to be a true republican you must flunk your IQ test.
As Perry's campaign continues to implode under the weight of it's own ignorance and stupidity, it's amazing to stop and think that this guy, as dim-witted and as slow as he is, actually was elected to the highest office in the land in Texas. I think that speaks volumes about the state and it isn't flattering. I am from Texas; born and raised and lived here my whole life. I can proudly say that I have NEVER voted for Rick Perry and never will. I just think it's funny that the people of Texas can now see what a dufus their governor really is now that he has to stand on his own two feet in this election.
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Maybe Tea Party will change their motto to "Don't Tread On Me...Let Me Tread On Thee!"...but they do like to quote them come Constitution, though...
Why don't you hypocritical Lefty Northerners get ur A's off the computer and go to work.
Oh, you have none. I do wish yall did have jobs so yalls may stay up there.
Sorry but, Not.
Rick does sound like a dummy and maybe The Lone Star State should Succeed. What would that do to the Broothus unemployment numbers?
Win, Win and Win.
justiceforall-2038290
Well Stated!
I also appreciate that you do not engage in name calling and cursing.
Misspoken words happens. Getting your sentences backwards happens. But if you're running for the highest office in the nation, one would assume you are interested in & familiar w/ its gov't. How do you not know the name of even one of the 9 Supreme Court judges. These are honored and respected people whom we count on to make wise and judicious decisions. I'm not that into politics and even I know the names of some judges. (They've been in the news. Their appointments are a big deal.) The man is not fit for the position of President, mentally or ethically. (And I am pro death penalty)
hard to believe that the gop has a master plan but maybe they think perry is a ''dubya'' substitute. the guy you'd most likely want to ''have a beer with''. if perry is elected he would be a puppet of the real power men equal to rumsfeld and cheney who would run the show. scary thought!
Christie bowed out for a lot of back room reasons. He's going to make sure he cleans out the skeletons in his closet before he runs in 2016. And run he will. Christie is a blustery, bossy, overbearing, GOP legal beagle the GOP will take the absolute necessary stroke to insure he rules the White House if elected.
There are two kinds of reformers in our elected politicians: Those who address the problems affecting the common welfare of ALL Americans and those who channel all reform through the common welfare of SOME Americans....usually the ones whose money empowerment is at the top of their ranking.
To retarded teabagger #1.8:
Texas CAN NOT secede (learn to spell) from the U.S. We have NO SPECIAL RIGHTS to do so!!! No state can leave (see the Civil War) and We Don't Want To Anyway. ATX
Earl...Why don't the racists southerners man up and admit that there's one and only thing that makes them hate this president? Why don't red staters stop treating those above the Stars and Bars States like cash cows? My state gets 61 cents for every dollar we pay into the federal government. Texas gets $1.47...How don't the rest of the states who get less than half of that support the almighty blowhard state?
Drilling oil rigs isn't the only form of employment and that doesn't take much brains as is exhibited by the number of spills over the past 2 decades that keep increasing. The top universities are in the north...Harvard, Yale, Princeton...what has Texas got to match that?
The top industries have corporate headquarters in NY and we in the northeast ARE the seat of the first and original US government. Being Mexican territory doesn't make Texas anything but swaggering, braggart, blowhards state it is.
Keep the cowboy boots, the swaggering, the bragging and the rest of that Texas BS in the Lone Star state. The rest of us are too busy earning enough money to help Texas pay its taxes.
It seems that Ricky and the cement headed Michele Bachmann went to different schools together (LOL). It's exactly what happens when two out of control wobbling tops touch just before they crash. No sense to it all. Just a lot of noise, spinning and color! Lots of fun for kids 5 and under though!
kay...That's the pathetic part of the GOP these days. They actually do have some really great politicians. But these are the ones who outmouthed by the good ole bois network. You'll notice they stuck in a harpy mouth like Bachmann? That was for effect only...and to not appear gender biased which we know bully bois of the GOP are. Same thing with Cain. So what the GOP really did was to play pretend.
They know that so soon after Bush, no one is going to trust a Texan in the White House. They also knew that President Obama is an enormously formidable presence. The GOP is now stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can't abide another Gingrichian despotic rule and know their religious biased red state constitutents won't accept Romney.
I left the Republican party because quite frankly I got tired of hearing male voices only. Take a visit to any RNC meeting and the only voices you hear are male. And not just male voices but bossy, overbearing, illogical, gender-biased male voices. It's enough to make any woman feel she's living in the prehistoric era.
The GOP has some of the most savvy, educated political women in their party, Snowe, Collins and Bailey Hutchinson. There's not a chance in the world a single one of these women who are power houses in and of their own right will ever get to replace the top RNC males.
That's about as pathetic a statement on male GOP neuroses as it needs to get. They'd rather stick dumb bunny arm candy women out there, turning them into shrieking classless harpies, then have to face the competition from among their own ranks of classy, educated female politicians. Now you know why the GOP politics has to be so dirty...they so fear a smart GOP woman, that they'd rather put up okee dokes like Slick Rick and any other Big Oil boi who pumps tons of moolah into a campaign.
All of us here commentin on these articles are LOSERS, unless you're gittin paid, which we accuse each other constantly. LOL! That being said, I doubt any one of us, could keep a campaign schedule, gittin little sleep, on the road constantly and not get turned around, and occasionally brain dead. Especially us older folks.
However, I do not like Perry, Romney, Newt or President Obama. They are ALL players for the Trans National BANKSTERS out to destroy America's middleclass and establish their Global New World Order for the ELITES. Even Palin took both a Soros and Rothschild adviser.
President Obama is bought and owned by the BANKSTERS. Just look at the contributions that ARE DECLARED! LOL! Please research Cozine/Teneo/Soros/Rockefeller foundation. This is such an open story to see how the Global Elites use TAX FREE foundations to greatly impact policy to THEIR financial great benefit.
Ewent, You have made my point for me. We all do not hate the president as you so put it. I have spoke the above comments. If you are part of that, it fits.
My point is simpilly why put all of us in the same boat as you accuse others of doing. Your words are hate.
PS Get well soon.
Go home, Rick.
You are embarrassing everyone in your state and anyone ever born there who lives somewhere else...to say nothing of Sam Houston, Bowie and everyone who died at the Alamo.
i dunno what... zacly.... purries drinkin *hic*...
but um geh... in.. some kina contak ..high.
Blue Lake, Supposedly Bush had a higher GPA than Kerry or Gore and a higher GT. I don't like any of them, but explain why President Obama's first action as President was to seal his and ALL former President records. THE best I know we haven't seen any of his classes, papers, GPA, writtins as the President of the Harvard Law Review, nothin. But he is the smartest President we ever had. LOL!
President Bush I, II, Clinton and President Obama are ALL AGENCY developed fior the New World Order.
Look at the economy. Pearl Harbor day was just a couple days ago. In less than 4 years we ramped up our manufacturing base and flooded the world with war materials and food. In the last 3 years we only DECREASED the number of people workin FULL time by 2 and a half million workers. Unemployment is down to 8.4% because over 300,000 people GAVE up lookin for work last month. If people KEEP drooping out of the work force will be down to under 8% by election day. LOL!
Dude is not too deep. How about a favorite conservative justice or one you especially dislike? How about the black one's name or one of the 2 women maybe??
Weren't you even interested in reading the details of some of the cases? Or following the appointments and the controversy they usually bring?? (or maybe you just wanted to delete the court like the other agencies you couldn't remember??)
People, this guy might just be President if it weren't for the debates!!!!!
Earl...Perhaps, Texans should try posting in English before they try to excoriate their plantation mentalities. Step outside of the Lone Star State once in a while. You'll learn where the seat of this entire government began and that was long before Sam Houston, the Alamo or the rest of the blowhard swaggering braggarts ever existed.
Your state takes more from the federal government than it pays in. That's not fair. Your state has a single industry it uses like ransom to keep the rest of the states TX hostage. Time for the TX government to start facing reality. We in the northern states are not going to continue to fund the TX economy while we watch our own states held hostage by Big Oil BS.
Anytime a Texan has to own up to the truth, they like to drawl it as "hate". By the way, it's not possible to make a right wing Texan's point. It's already so narrow, a silk thread couldn't pass through those brains.
td3k; Yeah thats a good point and it makes me wonder whats going on in texas, bad beef? How can this guy be elected two times and then before him there was Dubya. Maybe when they build the fence they should aslo include texas in those boundries. I know everyone in texas isn't like the people were talking about but how do you work something like this out when the fence goes up? They would have to get all the residents of texas to sign a release form to live there and even people going to visit there, would also have to sign a release form. Its a real shame these people get elected and re-elected over and over again. I wouldn't ever be able to vote for anyone from texas in my life time and I hope my children never do either. Hmm that reminds me, I better start talking to them now about that, maybe I'll threaten them by telling them I'll cut them out of the will if they ever vote for anyone from texas and even if I'm dead I'll come back to haunt them. Wow what a shame, the good people in texas have to deal with the insults towards the state they live in, because of the bozos running the place. Is it mad cow down there? Then if thats it, you know Rich Perry and Dubya are true beef lovers.
Was he ever hit on the head? This is starting to seem like frontal lobe injury.
Joe - It's not mad cow disease or bad beef, it's just an epidemic of far right conservatism exacerbated by the religious right influence in the state. It's not difficult to see from where the problem originates. Fortunately, I am happy to report, not every one in Texas is affected by this malaise. I don't wish to sound arrogant, but I have such little patience with illogical and misleading politicians who try to swoon the people with trivial unimportant details (such as their religious beliefs) all in an attempt to masquerade the fact that they are blithering idiots without enough common sense to understand the Constitution or the history of our nation.
Mac101
And don't forget the 423,000 that were "seasonal hires" in November. When all the holidays pass, historically 10% of the seasonal hires remain employed in their respective jobs. Wait for Jan/Feb numbers. Should be interesting.
Cynic...If there's one central fact of life in Texas, it's this: Booze, babes, brawls and broncos. With Perry? I'd say it's at two out of four.
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And Libs are SOOO smart to spend TRILLIONS we do not have? Don't fall for the Red/Blue game scam. Both parties dance to the same puppetmasters. Neither have the American peoples best interest in mind. LOL!
Ewit, I do not know how to respond to abrasive prejudice statements without hating back. So I won't.
I so thank you for your racy comments and I do not think all of you are Gay. Even tho it seems to have originated up in the North.
As I mentioned before, you would seem to be a much happier and intelligent person if you didn't profile as much.
How does a person get well if they "don't" know they are sick? When you get it, use it in life.
To ewent : sounds like anger issues. The people of Texas are not as you describle. Most Texans do go and travele outside the state of Texas and enjoy the different cultures we visit. There are about 10 states I have not visited. I loved them all. Probably been to your state. I don't know. You never said. I'm sorry you can't kick us of of the Union! (and we legally can't secede and don't want to) Our auto industry is mainly located up north, so y'all are the ones that need to produce cars that run on alternative fuels! I don't think problems get solved by dividing the nation. We are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA aren't WE!
Earl ...nothing like a Texas ASSuming...I have 2 sons I am hugely proud of. I've worked more than 2 jobs most of my life. Most women in the US have to. But I do thank you for proving exactly why I left the Republican party (BB-Before Bush)...bossy, arrogant GOP men.
I don't waste my time on hate and got a clue for the clueless....Stop calling truth hate. It shows how "ignernt" those so called "well" people really are. If right wingers feel truth is too much heat, what are they doing in the frying pan?
Exposing the truth about Texas government is the most important thing any American can do. It's the difference between allowing one braggart state to dump on 49 others and putting right the too masterful control of the Texas GOP interference into the federal government.
Texas has been sick for a long, long, time. In the words of that wonderfully and only astute former Texas Governor, Ann Richards, "Poor George...he can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth." A perfect assessment of most right wing Texans. Take the hint.
@Bluelake Post 1.62.. That was funny. But really, you could have used "Kennedy" just as easy...LOL
It might not be exactly proper form, but Americans often use the words "English" and "British" as if they were interchangeable.
While I think that most people would consider the UK to be our closest ally, there is no official designation of "closest ally", so it really is a subjective designation.
But, you're right. They all make blunders. Perry just seems to be making them on a regular basis. The most stupid one, in my opinion, is claiming that the voting age is 21. Of course, thinking that there are only eight justices on the US Supreme Court is pretty bad for someone who wants to be in the position of appointing their replacements.
Gregg..Not anger issue...sympathy issue. I have relatives in Texas...just not richville Texas. The real Texans are those who endure what their government dishes out and most of that is malarkey. The real Texans get stiffed and are so hemmed in by the good ole bois network in Texas, that they've been outmatched for decades now and their votes are meaningless in the general political power scheme.
I've always admired the educated Texas women. They tell it like it is whether or not their political male partisans agree. The times are changing and if Texas doesn't change with it, it could conceivably end up like the dust bowls of the 30's. Too much, too fast, too rich in too few hands is always the cause.
I've lived in NJ all my life. We have some of the finest politicians in the country: Senator Menendez is our Silent Warrior. Says little but is a power house of getting things done. Senator Lautenberg..one of the few wealthy politicians and Big Businessmen who gives as much back as he receives to his constituents. Fair is his middle name. Then, there's Congressmen Rush Holt whose first and only priority are the people of our state. NJ is evolving from an oil dependent state to one of the top 2 solar industry states. Anyone who says solar doesn't work has not been to NJ. It's one of the largest growing industries and thank goodness for that. Those refineries in NJ have been nothing but huge polluters in a heavily residential state.
Technology in NJ is tied to the techno wizards at Princeton and Rutgers and most of the Route 1 South Corridor is a maze of technology industries.
We have problems with unemployment mostly because for almost a decade the state imported all those Noo Yawkahs who work on Wall Street where the jobs were flushed down the toilet. Don't forget that when those Twin Towers went down, almost 20,000 employees were shifted to local NJ facilities of the NY Towers offices.
Corzine was not re-elected because most NJ people saw him as a corporate wheeler dealer. Christie is an okay Governor so long as he remains away from the North Jersey party bosses. In many ways, Christie and President Obama are one and the same in their views on reforms.
You need to work on your cut and paste skills, Art. It wouldn't hurt to work on your critical thinking skills, while you're at it.
Perry is a walking, talking, gaffe machine! On the other hand his staff is correct in that the media does not like it when Obama makes a mistake or tells a whopper because they get stuck trying to make it into non-news.
57 states
Hawaii is now Asia
Kansas is Texas
Didn't know who he had given the Medal of Honor to, posthumously
Signed the guest book at West Minster Abbey with the wrong year
Didn't know that the state of Illinois bordered Kentucky instead of Arkansas when he was campaigning against Clinton.
Didn't know there wasn't an Austrian language while he was there.
Couldn't remember his daughters age
Insensitive statement towards Special Olympics
Thought that a twister had actually killed 10,000 people in Kansas when the actual number was 12
His confusion over what faith he believed in Obama said, “What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,” during an interview with George Stephanopoulos. Stephanopoulos jumped in to help, saying ''your Christian faith.”
During the health care debate, President Obama explained all the benefits of ObamaCare, saying, “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”
Said his mother and father fell in love amidst the turbulence of Selma (he was
conceived four years before) Guess they weren't in love when he was born!
Confused Jews with Janitors in a public speech
Claimed his Uncle helped liberate Auschwitz
Gave a toast to the Queen during the UK National Anthem when it is customary to keep one's mouth shut and sit in silent honor.
Referred to children in hospitals as being mistakenly given breathilizer tests.
Stated that Europe was a country
Called the City of Eau Caire a state.
Said JFK helped bring his father to the U.S.
Said the U.S. Constitution was written 20 centuries ago
Called the City of Sunrise Florida Sunshine and the City of Sioux Falls, S.D. Sioux City
Shall I go on???? No, I think the point is clear that Obama and the Dems don't get hammered near as much by the liberal media as the people running for the Presidential Nomination on the Republican side.
President and Michelle Obama are probably not part of the 1%, In order to attain 1% status, one needs to be a multi-multi millionaire or a billionaires.
Even though the millionaire may pay, dollar for dollar, five times what the moderate income earner pays, it is because the millionaire is earning twenty or thirty times that of the moderate income earner.
There has always been a great divide in this country in terms of income and wealth. However, all studies show that this divide has grown substantially over the last fifty years. The reasons for this are many, and include changes in the tax structure and the globalization of assets i.e. offshore bank accounts and outsourcing of jobs. These contribute to the growth of the 1%.
Other reasons for the increase in income and wealth inequality is the decline in the size and vigor of the middle class. With the decline of unions and manufacturing jobs comes the loss of middle class status for many blue collar and trade workers.
Another key to white-collar, middle class vigor and economic standing is long-term, uninterrupted employment, with benefits such as employer subsidized health care and pension plans. Fifty years ago, a young worker could realistically expect when being hired that if they worked hard, they would receive raises, advance to key positions in the organization, and attain a comfortable retirement in thirty years or so. For perhaps the majority of middle class workers, this was the reality and it was the key to middle class status.
About twenty years ago, I heard the dean of a prominent business school speak to their graduates. I was surprised to hear her say that graduates should plan to change jobs and even careers at least three times during their working years. I think she meant that their graduates should change jobs in order to better their pay and positions in the workplace. However, many workers today have to change jobs involuntarily. Outsourcing, downsizing, relocations, and business bankruptcies have made long-term, uninterrupted employment for the worker a scarce commodity. Some businesses have divested themselves of health care programs, viable pension plans, and work employees harder. All of these factors conspire to reduce the size and vitality of the middle class.
Occupy Wall Street has called our attention to income and wealth inequality and its effects on our society more forcefully than I ever thought possible. Say what you will against this movement, but the ideas they set forth have begun to resonate with many people in both the 99% and the 1%. OWS will influence congress and the 2012 elections.
If one takes the time to look and listen, OWS protesters are not asking for welfare handouts or a communist state. They are, among other things, seeking tax policies that will take more from the wealthy, and more stringent regulation of Wall Street. OWS is green and supports of environmentally responsible government and corporate policies. OWS is global and seeks worldwide worker solidarity and responsible use of globalized assets. None of these ideas are new, but OWS has brought many voices together and that is new.
So is the ninth SCOTUS seat that third thing Ricky was trying to think of to do away with during the debate?
Just curious.
ewent, nice post; You know its really nice to hear someone talk proudly about the state they live in. It makes me wish our whole country could feel this way. Listening to what politics has turned out to be now makes me thnk its going to be a real long time before thats able to happen. Yet it dosen't need to take long at all for the states to make the switch. It can happen right after people leave the voting booth. Why people, (ok lets use texans for this example), vote people into office that aren't good for the state, people or anything but the greedy and yet they re-elect them too. When it comes to texas, I have to think its mad cow desease there, I guess the working people that want to eat in that state have to buy food and they probably put the mad cow beef on sale and thus the voting outcome. Unless they treat the water there too? I sure hope people remember what happened in this country when they step into that voting booth. Myself, right now I'm thinking Ron Paul for some real change, if its possible and if not him, then we have to stick with Obama for 4 more yrs and vote out the teanuts and repubes in office right now.
Ewent: #1.93 Aaaah....Jersey shores.... center of intelligence :-) Usually sympathetic people show sympathy not contempt. Your rants do sound like anger issues. You seem to blame other cities and states for y'alls problems. I'm sure you do have many fine politicians there. ;-) I am a real Texan and Democate. You should not stereo type us (sounds like from the news media) because your rant is wrong. ATX
Joe...I'm more emphatic about my country. We should all be proud of the states we come from or were born in. Each of the 50 states and their territories really do want the same thing: we want politicians who put the people of this country before all else. If we don't get that, we can become one disgruntled bunch of American loyalists.
I'm proud of my state but there's so much to love about so many other states. I'm in awe of our midwestern states with their keen sense of common sense. I love the way those in the Pacific northwest and northwestern states give the best examples of how to live freely and yet respect their environment. Our northeastern most states have an abundance of history as do the southern states which we should never in any way diminish. In the end, the unifying feature of each state is its connection to all others. The thread that binds this unity is fair play and justice, the order upon which our American society thrives.
If American politics comes down only to win win, that thread of fair play and justice has gone forever.
gregg..Work 2 jobs and then when the fed erodes your paycheck to pay for subsidies from my tax dollars to help Big Oil, come back and tell me how happy you'll be. If you cannot see where the truth in wasteful spending is, it may be because you live in a state that has relied all too heavily on federal taxes to compensate for what state taxes should pay for.
When your state gets a 61 cent return for every dollar they pay, let's see you dance a jig. Let's see how sympathetic you'll be when you realize Big Oil reported consecutive record profits three times in the first three months of the last 3 years while the rest of the country was struggling through a Recession. See the connection to those profits and the loss of income of the Middle Class yet?
No? Let me help. Why should any taxpayer have to hand over a single cent in subsidies or for that matter reduce taxes to any American corporation that is earning obscene profits? Are we now our Corporates' Keepers?
Explain then how Middle Class salaries have stagnated for 5 years but the highest incomes have increased 26% in 3 years? This explanation I've got to hear. Not even our most common sense Midwesterners can explain that one without laughing hysterically.
ewent; Yes, once again I agree with you. I'm not saying I don't love my state or country, but just speaking about our elected officials and the jobs they are doing, and what they feel are the important issues at hand while they are in office. You make it sound like your states politiians have the know how to make this country tick in harmony again. Well even the posts in here. He said this and that and 57 states, latidatida, really is that more important that the issues we're facing as a country as a whole? Yeah like the old saying goes, it starts at home and if we had elected officals through out our country that felt like the ones in your state then it would only bring progress back to our entire country. Once the issues we have facing us right now like employment etc. are addressed I would love to see politicians look at the future and start programs to make the future of this country something to look forward too. Well not even after the present issues are addressed but along with the present issues the future is taken into very strong consideration and blended into out current issues. It would be great to see good, smart politicians working together for the country as a whole. Then its funny how the comment you made was understood differently than what I thought you meant, by someone else. I really didn't see you blaming anyone, the unemployment figures in this country are stagering right now and its one of the things that needs looked at in the worst way, most people know how the jobs left but lets get the politicians and people together and put up some good ideas that will bring them back. Its going to have to be done in the voting booth. I think its great the protesters are making a stand and I believe they are making an impact on the people that can make the changes, I really hope more politicians will use NJ as an example and bring the harmony back to our states and country. Maybe then we can go back to debating super bowls and world series games instead of the hateful comments here now.
went; Ok, the last post you made, maybe I can add my point of view on that a little too, maybe its not directly the same as yours but its more on the lines of what I believe our elected officals should be like. Ok Obama gets elected and hardly moved into the WH yet, but he sees the book work kept til then and the status of the economy of the country and he knows he has to act quickly on it or else we're heading into a depression real quick. The country is teetering on a cliff and it seems like he's the only person in Washington to notice this, teetering, more like hanging over the edge. Well he gets a stimulus going along with some other things to help out and well in the short time he had to work with, he did whatever he could no matter how silly they may have sounded, to keep the country from going into a bad depression. Well the stimulus goes out to the states and its to be passed out to businesses that may need that little bit of help to get a few more people working. Ok, so the guy in texas, Rich Perry, he gets his stimulus and he goes and puts it on the states deficit. Instead of doing the right thing with it and helping smaller business put some people to work he pays on his states deficit. When almost everyone knows its small business that mostly keeps the country going and that small business has times that they need that little boost to get their business going a little stronger. So whats he do, he says the hell with texas, the hell with the country, I'm going to make my books look good for when I run for president. Then theres Michelle Bauchmann, she gets the stimulus and she's going to help small business, but the only thing wrong with that is her thoughts on helping small business was her husbands small business. She believes its more important to help her husbands business of curing gays than it would be to help a legitimate small business that could really use the help and create a few more jobs. How many more states used the stimulus in the same manner? Many, I'm sure. So when I was reading your post it made me feel proud that theres still elected offiicals out there willing to do the right thing for the state and country as a whole, instead of the ones that I mentioned above. Ahh woudn't it be nice, maybe one day we'll see it happen, all people need to do is go and vote and make the changes that are needed.
dan-282760 Obama has made a long list of stupid remarks but you folks ragging on Perry in here are not willing to recognise that. Not to mention that Obama is the worst President that this country has ever seen.
Yes Dan he has but your post loses ALL credibility when you say he's the worst. Anyone with any modium of intelligence KNOWS bushie was the worst, by far. And now you honestly hope to sink even lower. How funny. God save America from the idiots that are the rethugli-cant party.
imwhitewolf; You have that right. Dubya sewed up the position of being the worst president ever, for a very long time. He's locked into that worst president forever and ever now. He did change history and our grandchildren and their grandchildren will be taught this for years and years to come. Theres just no changing that. Anyone that dosen't see this has to have a brain smaller than a BB, or else they are very wealthy and made a lot of money off of his presidency. Our children will be taught this is the reason for the status of our country now. How anyone would ever manage to become worse than Dubya, I don't have a clue and I really can't see it happening. Its just the way it is right now, Dubya walked away with the honors of being the worst president this country has ever had. Well Dubya and Cheney both. hold those honors respectfully in both their positions.
"Texas is the finest portion of the globe that has blessed my vision"
- Ray Charles-
Michael, it's not so much that one or the other has as many or more or as "serious" gaffes. What doesn't add up is how the MSM keeps ignoring important serious news about problems in the democratic administration which would be screamed to the top of all mountains if the administration were republican.
A border patrol agent is dead from US weapons given to mexican drug cartels by the obama admin DOJ. In February, DOJ lied to/misled congress in their denial of involvement in this gun walking. Recently retracted because of numerous inaccuracies which other documents pointed out.
Holder et al are being grilled and look / sound like evasive, mealy mouth fools. An agent is dead because of this fiasco and no one in the DOJ has been fired. No one is accepting responsibility or being held accountable.
Why isn't MSNBC reporting it.
po-po Perry. I actually think this man is struggling with early signs of Alzheimers.
As far as prayers in schools go. Schools is a learning institution, not for praying. If you want to pray, do t on your own time at home or during lunch and recess breaks at school.
We needs to bet back to the basics at our schools and top all these bs religious nonsense in them.
TAX all Church and Religions, and end their free ride in America.
RON PAUL 2012
does anyone else fear for themselves if perry gets to play with nuclear weapons.
Actually Perry is in the same position as Sarah Palin when McCain asked her to be his running mate. This man had no idea He would be a Presidential candidate until some 4 weeks before He announced. It was thought by the powers that be, none of the announced candidates were electable. Perry though, could fit just what their base was looking for. Conservative, Southerner, good looking Evangelical Christian, who would ridgedly conduct governance within their dictates, and they were right. What they did not understand though, as McCain did not with Palin, the Texas Governor doesn't know the difference between his ass and a cleft lip, with regards to the rudimentary mechanics of managing a government.
Perry has ZERO chance of being elected to the office of President. What is interesting, is how many comments are "collapsed by the community". Apparently any differing view is unacceptable. All the rude remarks made about Perry are totally acceptable though. What has happened when one side of a discussion is shut down ? Apparently free speech is a thing of the past. Agree with us or shut up seems to be the motto of the left.
Maybe so...we'll have to wait and see.
One thing we do know for sure: if "Crisco" has any skeletons in his closet, they sure ain't wearin' his clothes!
Having lived in Texas for over a decade, I regret to have to tell you that facing reality doesn't often happen there. Every sector of the economy is tied to oil. In the mid-eighties, Texans refused to believe that a recession could ever hit their state. Oh no, not here! We're Texas, we're special.
Oil prices plummeted and real estate prices went tumbling right along with them. But even after every big bank in the state went belly up and was bought by out-of-staters, even after thousands of unemployed homeowners abandoned entire neighborhoods and fled the state, they couldn't say the word "recession".
I'd say there's something in the water there, but that can't be it because it didn't affect me. It's pretty clear from the state's record on education and health care insurance why Texans are, as a group, so ignorant and unhealthy. Rick Perry hasn't got a boot-shod leg to stand on.
It was over for him 2 weeks ago ..even his own staff members don't agree with his views ! He is... whats wrong with America !
Put him in The Oval Office???! I wouldn't let him drive the family car. I can just imagine the lame brain walking down the driveway without the car saying "Dad, I had a little oops with the car...sorry"
Typical Liberal Media trying to make Perry look like a fool when he's really a comic genius! His impressions of George W Bush grow wilder by the day and still the Mainstream LIBERAL media doesn't pick up on it. Does he have to turn into BORAT before people catch on? This man will ultimately go down in History as the FIRST Conservative comedy GENIUS!!!!!
Typical of teapublicans dont allow facts to interfer with what you say
PURNEEEEEEELL! You come on in the house now PURNEEEEELL! We fixin to have chicken-fried steak and taters! Lurleen done made a Peecan Pie and I'll gid you a Long Neck. But first you gotta take yer reality pill!
We snickered when he forgot the name of the third Agency - we giggled at the voting age gaffe - a good belly laugh about 8 Supreme Court Justices. His commercial supporting Christianity was a Comedy Classic on the lines of Chris Guest's best work and yet this man does not get his DUE!!!!!!! When will Rick Perry get his own TV show? He should have replaced Charlie Sheen on the 2/1/2Men! Why didn't Harold and Kumar use him in the Guantanomo Bay movie? Because the MAINSTREAM LIBERAL MEDIA scared them out of it!!!!!! I suggest a remake of the old Dick VanDyke Show with him playing the Rob Petrie character and Michle Bachmann playing the Mary Tyler Moore role! Now that would be entertainment!!!!Octomom could play Ethel Mertz (I know, I know.)
I read so many of your comments on this panel and I gotta laugh at the ignorance and hypocracy. Obama nad no experience in global issues and domestic issues and yet you praise this fraud of a President who BS his way into the White House. Obama promised so much of false hopes and dreams and yet you gullable idiots have fallen for it and still do today. Perry or anyone even a Liberal moron couldn't even run this country. These politicians are so busy putting their own agenda first like Obama and so forth that this country will fall like ROME. I HOPE IT DOES JUST TO TEACH ALL YOU IDOTS A HUGE LESSON. I WILL LAUGH MY BUTT OFF AND I WONT FEEL SORRY EITHER OF YOU ALL. America is so stupid and ignorant its beyond me.
piegan...Now who's the hypocrite? How much experience in global affairs did Cain have? Only Romney has sufficient global experience and only because Romney was or still is a venture capitalist whose Bain Consulting dealt largely with offshore bidders for US businesses Bain was selling off. How didn't that add to the unemployment?
Now if you really want to talk hypocrisy, how does any right winger justify putting a three time wife cheat out there like Gingrich who not only can't keep it in his pants but has a politically scandalous reputation.
Why not just throw Charles Manson in the GOP ring?
Gingrich, in the positions he has held over the years, has much more experience in foreign policy. At least he has Congressional experience in some strange times.
Ok, everyone pretty much knew this guy along with a few of the other candidates for the repubes didn't stand a chance of becoming president, so why did they continue to let them campaign? What I'm getting at here is, look at all the money spent on the likes of Rich Perry and Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain and Newt. After the first couple of weeks of their campaigns they should of taken the money they were given to have their campaigns and put it towards the countries deficit and look something good would of come out of them trying to run. I think this should be manditory now with every election and ever candidate ever trying to run. If they can't cut the mustard, they get audited and the money goes toward the country's deficit.
Gingrich historically is viewed as the least competent Speaker of the House. His gaffes on Congressional policy lead to the one term GHWB. Gingrich can't remain consistent without prompting from a sideline coach he's used for years to tell him when he's getting too far off base. This is the man we want in the White House? A guy who has to be told when he's going off the deep end?
Anyone who remembers the Gingrichian Speaker of the House Era knows that his Contract For America did exactly what Cheney and Bush's policies did...enriched only the top earners while forcing hardship on those in the Middle and the bottom.
Republicans know that if Gingrich bests Romney, they've got a truckload of his baggage to account for. In other words, Gingrich may now look like the middle ground between two evils but he won't escape the truth of his past.
Perry's gaff's are still not as funny as Joe Biden's. I'll never forget when Biden told the guy in the wheel chair to stand up. Then when Biden realized his mistake told everyone to stand up for Chuck. What an embarrassment for this country. A VP that doesn't even know who he's speaking for.
Then of course the famous 57 state issue by Obama...
I love it when liberals throw dung, but can't stand it when dung created by their people is thrown back.
ewent's spinning again. Don't you ever get dizzy ewent? One of these times you are going to spin one twist too many and fall on your face dizzy. GHWB lost the election because of "No New Taxes." Newt had no part in that.
Since you make the claim on Newt as being viewed as the most incompetent speaker... produce the nonliberal references to your claim. We already know liberals view every conservative as incompetent... Remember - nonliberal claim. Also - if you would, since you are making these spin claims, explain to everyone exactly how hardship was forced on middle class by Newt's hand.
I'll wait for your reasonable response. Remember, it has to be reasonable - no anger, no namecalling as you are so famous for.
Hey Purnell, no one has to try and make Perry look like a fool. He's doing a great job all by himself. As for the statement about Perry imitating Bush, it's not an imitation. He really is that stupid. I think the two were twins separated at birth.
"Then of course the famous 57 state issue by Obama..."
When I see the benighted members of the right wing lunatic fringe whine loudly about the 57 states non-issue, I always reflect on the sad fact that they have no valid issues to discuss and they lack the intellectual horsepower to conjure one up. It makes you wonder how these poor people manage to focus their limited potential in such a way that they can make a living. I pity their children, really.
Sailcat - you are the epitome of bloviated self-esteem. In your narrow view of the world and politics, it is easier for you to try to cast dispersions on anyone your thimble sized intelligence portrays as unacceptable. Your habitual meger offerings are limited to a one track mindset of slander.
When will you learn that your input is simply laughed off because it is understood by the right that your only line of defense is to appease yourself and pretend to appear like you actually know something. Unfortunately for you, the only one you serve is sitting behind the keyboard you type on. Sucks to be you.
BrianB...Keep dreamin' darlin' We all know righties can stand for anything but truth makes them retch. So let's see now...where to begin...Newt Gingrich as Speaker of the House proposed that "Contract For America"....you want to be the one to tell us how well the Middle Class didn't do as a result? Or do you need a signed petition from those of us who struggled through the Gingrich Rough Riders march on the Middle Class?
Since I'm not an ideologue...like President Obama, I'm a centrist progressive, I can give you all the incompetence of Gingrich easily. Check his records on the number of pieces of legislation passed and sponored by his bully bois during his term as Speaker of the House...Start with that Contract For America"...if you dare. By the way, check out who else supported that Contract ON America...DeLay, Boehner, Walker, Armey, Paxon and Nussle...Now check out DeLay's corruption record, the co-founder connected with the Kochs of the Tea Party, Armey and let's not forget the Gingrichian clone, Boehner. By the way, check out the connection to the conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, and that Contract they helped Gingrich put out there. And what was the central focus of that Contract? Welfare reform and Tort Reform voted on by every sitting member of the GOP during the first part of the Clinton Administration. How convenient does this need to get?
His Fiscal Responsibility Act was not an amendment but legislation that provided the president with a line item veto which Republicans now find a bad taste in their mouths with President Obama. Now check out his record on the "Personal Responsibility Act" which sought to denied food vouchers to children on welfare and forced their mothers into jobs at minimum wages without sufficient preparation for education to improve their skills or provide for child care while these single mothers worked.
Check out Gingrich's partnership with Al Sharpton and then Education Secretary Ann Duncan on "education as a factor in America's prosperity". Check out his then policy on the death penalty for selling pot, his attempts at lowering child labor laws for poor children under the age of 12, his National Review article wherein he opposes ANY restrictions on campaign funding, opposition to McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform, his American Dream Savings Accounts were nothing more than forced savings on salaries that barely fed Middle Class families...now you know where that illogical Bushian idea of Medical Savings Accounts came from.
Enough reasonable response yet? Then there was his attempt to reduce product liability on consumer goods and his Private Securities Litigation Act which his own Congress overrode that sought to reduce litigation and liability for securities class action lawsuits.
Need more? Sorry, my fingers are too tired. All of the above pieces of legislation are part of the US Legislative Record and Archives...there's your proof of his ineptitude. A man who proposed numerous pieces of legislation, some of which his own party wouldn't pass.
I pity this whole damn country
OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA TROLOLOLOLO
ewent - here goes:
...Newt Gingrich as Speaker of the House proposed that "Contract For America"....you want to be the one to tell us how well the Middle Class didn't do as a result? Or do you need a signed petition from those of us who struggled through the Gingrich Rough Riders march on the Middle Class?
Back in the late 80's and 90's the country was doing pretty well economically. The GDP was up, unemployment was falling and interest rates were down as compared to what we faced from 76-80. I suppose you don't remember the misery index and how people in the middle class were severely hurting from Carter's debacle as president. Here you sit blaming Newt for working on getting the country back in financial shape. I can't help it you are Marxist minded and feel everyone is owed a living... there are millions just like you and of course they are all on the left and feel the government owes them a living.
...Start with that Contract For America"...if you dare. By the way, check out who else supported that Contract ON America...DeLay, Boehner, Walker, Armey, Paxon and Nussle...Now check out DeLay's corruption record, the co-founder connected with the Kochs of the Tea Party...
You call yourself a centrist? By the remarks above and the continuation of your remarks in your post, I disagree. It appears as though you are on the same side as the left with the blame game. Don't get me wrong, I find the republican party repulsive in many ways. Their actions are indefensible when compared to conservative thinking. On the other hand, you mention nothing the democrats have done to harm this country... it seems your blame is all one sided. That makes you an extreme partisan and not a centrist. With that mindset, I find it hard to believe anything you have to say because it appears as though your self-assessment is incorrect.
His Fiscal Responsibility Act was not an amendment but legislation that provided the president with a line item veto which Republicans now find a bad taste in their mouths with President Obama. Now check out his record on the "Personal Responsibility Act" which sought to denied food vouchers to children on welfare and forced their mothers into jobs at minimum wages without sufficient preparation for education to improve their skills or provide for child care while these single mothers worked.
I am still for the line item veto, no matter what denomination of president we have in office. If anything, it shows how a president is thinking to the American public and provides an answer to whether or not he should be re-elected. Of course republicans feel it would be a bad thing now that Obama is in office... remember, it's Washington and the system is broken. Personally I am totally against the welfare system the way it is set up. Do I think it's totally wrong? No I don't. It's a drag on this economy and there are no time limits to ending the individuals from receiving it. It should be set up as a help in the times of emergency, not as a way of income for people that live off the system. I understand what Newt was trying to do and I agree with it, no matter how you feel about it. Welfare needs time limits to help people get on their feet, not as a way of life.
Enough reasonable response yet? Then there was his attempt to reduce product liability on consumer goods and his Private Securities Litigation Act which his own Congress overrode that sought to reduce litigation and liability for securities class action lawsuits.
The items in your prior paragraph are not well understood by those with a left leaning stance. This paragraph is also not understood. Why would he do this? To help his "cronies" on Wall St.? Think it through. Here's a hint - Frivolous lawsuits.
I do appreciate the lack of namecalling. See, you can do it. While I appreciate your answer and your digging, I feel you misunderstand most of what he did. Does Newt go overboard at times - I'd have to say yes. Do the liberals understand him - That's a definite no. The actions by Newt are divided along ideological lines. Those on the left are not only confused by what he's attempting, but are fundamentally opposed to it. Newt is for less government, not more... he's for fiscal control and especially in the areas of entitlements. Not social security or medicare, but welfare and handouts. When you compare the left's idea of making everyone equal and the right's idea of letting people make their own fortunes, political figures who share in either side's ideology are totally undermined by the opposing side.
Since you mentioned Koch, I have to mention Soros. Both rich owners of organizations that are on opposing sides. That should equal out any claims you have that the Koch brothers are bad. At least Koch employs many Americans where Soros hates this country.
Hi Brian! I am not surprised you are intimidated by my posts because they contain things with which you are obviously unfamiliar such as:
1. Facts
2. Reason
3. Proper English skills
4. Wit
It will be hard for you to grasp these concepts, but with hard work and a set of critical thinking skills I am sure you can make some headway.
Just bear in mind that, as things stand right now, the people on this site are guffawing at you, not with you.
Hope this helps!
Sailcat - Intimidated? I laugh at your posts. The people on this site are liberals. A lot of them have about as much common sense as the grass surrounding your dwelling. I'm glad to see you are sticking true to form. Your thimble sized intelligence only allows you to view conservatives in a negative light. More slander and deflection appears each time you post thereby proving I am accurate. You can continue on if you want me to keep showing everyone your true colors. I can do this all day long.
"The people on this site are liberals."
Everyone? Can you verify your assertion with facts to verify you are "accurate", please?
There are people of varying degrees of intelligence in both political camps whether it be liberal or conservative. As a general rule, however, the position and perspective from a liberal/progressive view point tends to be one that promotes and focuses on a more open minded approach and embraces the idea of inquiry, investigation and willingness to change or amend if necessary. The conservative view point is typically the opposite. It remains entrenched in unchanging, uncompromising positions that tend to reject and oppose any inquiry or possibility of amendment in any given scenario. The way I see it, the liberal position asks "why not?" and the conservative position asks "what for?"
Unless Obama became a wizard and fixed the economy, he was set up to fail. The US economical downfall has been years in the making and we can place the blame on corporations who basically look just at the bottom line. In order for them to make more money, they looked for cheaper labor overseas and therefore began the collapse of our economy and the rise of China's and India's. The state of the US economy is not rocket science, our country is being brought down by greed. The greed of large corporations and the banking industry. The equation is simple, when jobs are lost, people can't spend, they are taxed less, they rely more on the government help. Unless Obama brought back all the jobs lost in the last 15-20 years, there was no way for him to fix our economy. Our economy cannot be fixed and it will continue to deteriorate. If a Republican president is elected, the old American way of life is lost probably forever.
Has Rick Perry ever been out of Texas before he decided to run for the republican nomination?
Forrest Grump 2.0
Has Rick Perry ever been out of Texas before he decided to run for the republican nomination?
Forrest,
That's a good question. I wonder if he ever considered getting treatment for his memory loss like Alzheimer's patients? Maybe a mnemonic would be a good option like memorizing " On top of Ole Smokey".
Even counting his money repeatedly possibly could help his memory.
If the poor guy is suffering from early onset Alzheimer's or another ailment, that makes you a real POS. If he's not, well, isn't it enough that he is exposing his difficulties in public?
So he's not presidential material. Neither is the guy currently holding the office.
Texas is real big, Forrest. A man could spend his whole life just walkin' around Texas.
I'll bet he knows that there is only 50 states, not like some who think there are 57 and needs to have a teleprompter before he can make speeches without stutters or his brain freezes.
Melissa-1175724-1762238
Yeah, maybe Perry should do the free world a big favor and simply go for a walk and get lost. He might double the favor and take Newt with him.
Alheizmers is when you forget what you used to know. Perry clearly doesn't have Alheizmers.
You forgot about Reverend Wright and Kenya. Those are usually mentioned in the same sentence with the "57 states" thing.
Oh, I don't think his are any worse than 57 states, corpsmen, . . . .
Here is Obama's most indicting statement on how out of touch he really is.
We just need to get more regular tune-ups.
Look back years ago, you tuned your car up monthly or every couple of thousand miles. You had to adjust fuel/air mixture, gap plugs, replace points and condensers. Back then the tune-up line acutally made sense
Since the 90's when fuel injection and better computers were added to cars, the interval became 60,000 miles and consisted of plugs, wires, the timing belt, a distributor cap and rotor and a PC valve.
Since 2000 a tune up is now means replace a timing belt, a PC valve and possibly the plugs at 100,000 mile intervals. that's over 9 years at 12,000 miles per year. Everything else is monitored by your cars computer to the constant analysis of every firing of each plug. IF there is one iota of a problem your car lights up a warning on your dash. Get more frequent tune-ups indeed.
The Tune-up thinking is from the stone ages now, just like the liberal/progressive philosophies.
ray and paul . . . I can only hope that you're writing really big checks to his campaign and volunteering lot's of time stuffing envelopes and making phone calls on his behalf . . . as making snarky posts on an MSNBC thread isn't going to gain him even 1 vote . . . or get him elected . . .
DB, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 Had you said "that's over 8 years you would have been spot on. I know personally the schools are better than that in Akron so maybe you're in line for the dementia test. :-)
Tune-ups are not stone age. There are many things you can do to improve fuel mileage besides ignition. Oxygen sensors lost their ability to regulate the O2 level in the engine so they shpould be changed occasionally. MAP sensors start acting up and cause a car to not run properly so saying tune-ups are stone age just shows how much you don't know about the new systems on today's cars. Just because the car still runs good doesn't mean it's finely tuned.
@roy waterworth
That makes the score 1000:1
Last night I heard Perry say something about Jesus being openly gay in the military
You guys seriously need to get some new material. Every president since the invention of the teleprompter... has used a teleprompter! In fact, I believe Herbert Hoover was the first, in 1952, as he addressed the Republican National Convention. Abraham Lincoln delivered his incredible Gettysburg Address while reading from notes. Historians know this because the envelopes the notes were written on still exist. And today, dozens of decades later, our presidents still use notes when they give speeches. GET OVER IT!
The teleprompter is nothing more a fancier version of note cards or cue cards that allows the speaker to maintain eye contact with the camera and not appear distracted. It doesn't mean the speaker is incompetent. It doesn't mean the speaker is retarded. Most presidents have also had professional speech-writers penning their speeches, too, but I understand from Time Magazine that Obama writes most of his own speeches. If you watched any of the debates in the run-up to the 2008 election, you'd know that Obama is plenty capable of intelligent discourse without the use of a teleprompter.
The fact that congressional and other high-ranking Republicans have regressed to third-graders and openly mock a sitting American president for relying on a teleprompter (just as every other president for the last 60 years has done) really shows you how serious these guys truly are about governing and running the United States government.
As if ANY of them could deliver a 10- to 20-minute speech "off the cuff" (or, even more laughably, memorized) without any notes and not manage to sound like a blithering, rambling fool. In fact, I'd challenge ANYONE to have a lengthy speech prepared, then either deliver it well with no notes at all, or to be relying on a teleprompter, only to have the device fail five minutes into the speech... then we'd see how everyone managed. I definitely think the mockery would come to a rapid halt.
Roywaterworth said
Actually Roy, that would be "there are only 50"....
Maybe you need an English Grammar text.
By the way there are 47 states, 3 commonwealths (Just ask Romney) and I believe 57 Primaries/Caucuses
Chad ... THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"You guys seriously need to get some new material. Every president since the invention of the teleprompter... has used a teleprompter! In fact, I believe Herbert Hoover was the first, in 1952, as he addressed the Republican National Convention. Abraham Lincoln delivered his incredible Gettysburg Address while reading from notes. Historians know this because the envelopes the notes were written on still exist. And today, dozens of decades later, our presidents still use notes when they give speeches. GET OVER IT!"
These hair brained idiots who have for months harpped on the fact that the POTUS uses a telepromter as a negative thing obviously have little mental capacity to know what the devise actually is and the stupidity to think that the use of this moder means f u'using notes' is a weakness. Of course, it is obviously that none of them has never given a speech, let alone required the where withal to use notes to deliver a well organized speech.
And, the fact is that any good speech giver today usually has speech writters who take the speakers ideas and put them into an organized speech ... one to be edited by the speech giver and then delivered using some form of notes ... maybe even a Teleprompter!
Maybe if Perry used one, he might just not come off as being such an unintelligent, religiously fanatical idiot!
ALSO ... please read .... it was explained to you idiots long ago, but you still keep quoting FauNews line of idiocy!
"Obama is correct, there are 50 states and 7 territories of the United States that participate in the primaries. He is also correct that Hawaii is part of Asia according to geographic location. It's sad to see an intelligent man criticized for his intelligence by stupid uneducated people.
Chad, you forgot one other.........Palin's crib notes written on her hand!!!!!
Priceless!
Chad - excellent post. Thanks for the well written comments. As you already noted, much of the complaints from the far right focus on style over substance. When the GOP/ Tea Party can deliver a candidate with something worth saying, they might be willing to shift their focus to relevant issues. It doesn't appear that day is about to happen any time soon.
@James via http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#territories
"Can citizens in U.S. Territories vote for President?
No, the Electoral College system does not provide for residents of U.S. Territories, such as Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands and American Samoa to vote for President. Unless citizens in U.S. Territories have official residency (domicile) in a U.S. State or the District of Columbia (and vote by absentee ballot or travel to their State to vote), they cannot vote in the Presidential election. Note that prior to the adoption of the 23rd Amendment, DC residents could not vote in the Presidential election.
The political parties may authorize voters in primary elections in Territories to select delegates to represent them at the political party conventions. But that process does not affect the Electoral College system."
Obama and Perry are both shysters that pretend to know more than they really do. The "facts" are handed to them on cue cards. It's their job to memorize them and act like they know what they're talking about.
It's too bad that the Republican party won't back Huntsman and in fact try to make him look incompetent. I believe he's someone that both parties could get behind if he could get the opportunity. Unfortunately he won't make it past the primaries.
Edna...If the GOP won't back Huntsman and they make him look incompetent...what does that say about the level of the rest of their candidates? Huntsman is Texas Big Oil. Big Daddy Huntsman could, if he wanted to, pump as much moolah into his spawn's campaign. Figure it out for yourself. If Big Daddy won't and the GOP won't, Huntsman has one too many skeletons in his GOP closet the GOP doesn't want out in the open.
as president of the usa in an effort to curtail Iran's actions, perry just might say "I declare war on Iowa....ooops
I notice the liberal collapse machine is in full force. For those of you that feel a comment against Obama is worthy of a collapse, remember that it's your decision to press that button is exactly why conservatives feel you liberals are against free speech. No matter what your political affiliation is, we still live in a country where free speech is allowed. Just because you don't like what a person has to say, doesn't give you the gestapo right to collapse their statements. If you don't like their words, move on.
I know some liberals can't help themselves... their arrogance is their calling card.
Chad, great defense of Obama's use of a teleprompter. Now we all know why he uses it. Now we all know that even though he can articulate his words well, he is still a showman. Of course many presidents have used them in the past. Big deal. The problem we face is that Obama speaks through his teleprompter, but he still puts this country down, it's people down and is still promoting Marxist ideals. Maybe we should blame his political ideology on the teleprompter instead.
BrianB...Give us the citations where he's put anyone but the obstructionist Republicans down. Explain why Republicans consistently have held Americans hostage 3 times since 2009.
2009: Republicans refused to vote on extending unemployment benefits unless the rich got another tax credit.
2010: Republicans refused to pass FEMA funding legislation to Americans who lost their homes to floods and fires unless all funding was removed for alternative energy.
2011...They're at it again...Refusing to pay extensions of the payroll tax cuts for the Middle Class unless that provision for the Trans Canada pipeline goes with it.
What kind of BS nonsense are the Republicans pulling? How did that 2009 tax cut help increase federal revenues? How didn't it dump more on the Middle Class who has to pull up the slack when the rich pay less in taxes on those high income salaries they know means higher taxes?
How did holding up FEMA funding help people who lost everything just so Big Oil wouldn't take a hit in alternative energy competition? Republicans bank on Americans being ignorant. Too bad they are always wrong.
How did refusing to extend the payroll tax cuts not show clearly what kind of hypocrites the Republicans really are? When the rich got their tax cut in 2009, the GOP was on board. How is that not the Bushian "MY way or the Highway" BS?
Our hugely intelligent President may use a prompter, but unlike his dopey predecessor, he doesn't need to create his own language. I guess the righties miss that good ole 'nookaler" Bush speak so much that having to actually listen to an articulate president makes their brains goes zooey.
Ewent your posting history makes it clear that you dislike anything Republican. IMO the Republican candidates are no more incompetent than the current resident of the White House. Since we know there won't be another choice of Democrat to vote for in the next election, I'm going to see if any of the Republicans show promise. FTR I don't see too many candidates that DIDN'T come from money. Obama is another manufactured politician courtesy of The Chicago Machine.
Again...IMO...Huntsman's comments are very realistic and not filled with a bunch of BS promises that can't be kept. Romney and Perry just repeat what they think their base wants to hear. The reality is that there is no way that Obamacare is going to be repealed which is exactly what Huntsman said. Perry talks about job creation in his state. What he fails to mention is that all those jobs pay minimum wage. Let him try to pay his bills on that salary. Romney is such a flip flopper no one really knows what he's about. Gingrich is an assmunch. Can't explain it. I just don't like him.
If Huntsman somehow manages to get on the ballot in November 2012 he will get my vote.
Edna...I dislike the Good Ole Boi Republicans. This is NOT the party of Eisenhower or Stevenson is it? I was a Republican before Bush and I could tell you stories that would make your hair stand on end about some Republican men.
I won't vote for Republicans until they can restore themselves to working exclusively for the people of this country and not Big Money.
I voted for President Obama in 2008 for several reasons. Older politicians like Ron Paul at age 76 are out of touch with the needs of the younger generations. Not that the 60-somethings aren't to some degree. But in President Obama, his prior history as a community organizer showed me his first attentions were to people, not money. His record as a Senator for 12 years also showed that without even so much as rattling of swords, he made his beliefs and policies known.
That he comes from Chicago is immaterial to me. Clinton was from Arkansas and was an excellent manager of the US economy. I never trusted the motives of George W. Bush and knew his failures prior to becoming president. So, I didn't vote for him.
If I am anti-Republican at present, it's due to prior experience as a Republican. Too many male voices, not enough female input that is given credibility and too much cozying up to Big Money that doesn't address the common good of all Americans. That and only that is why I won't vote for a Republican of today.
It's not just conservative comments that get collapsed on here, Brian. I've seen many times where obviously left-leaning comments have been collapsed (paradoxically, it's often ones with a large number of "thumbs up" votes).
And I can name NUMEROUS times I've seen these so-called evil liberals publicly calling out MSNBC/Newsvine for collapsing opposing comments. I've done it myself a couple of times too, advocating for the de-collapsing (re-expanding??) of a comment I wholly disagreed with personally. Unless the comment is offensive, purely inflammatory (trolling, adding nothing to the discussion), or spam, I don't think any viewpoint or comment should be stifled or collapsed.
And guess what, I'm a liberal.
Just goes to show you can't paint half the country with the same small brush, Brian. But hey, thanks for not really contributing to a consensus, but rather just continuing to fan the flames of that always-so-productive "us vs. them" divisiveness.
Rick Perry's not a thinker; he's a doer! Unfortunately, the only thing he's good at doing is holding his hands out for contributions.
The dirty little secret Texas government hides is that it only consider Houston, Dallas, Austin and Galveston the state of Texas. The rest of the state is a dusty hellhole overloaded with white patches surfacing above ground from all that pollution and oil drilling.
This is what they want for the rest of the states. They figure they shouldn't be the only brains polluted by Big Oil. This is the Texas government version of "generosity"...the only act of charity they bother to muster.
I wouldn't make this guy assistant manager at 7-11 let alone the leader of the free world. I'm beyond laughing at him, it makes me angry that he thinks he is worthy. he's wasting everyone's time
It makes me even angrier than a bunch of other people think he is worthy, or did anyway. Empty suit and good hair........
We really need to demand they stop wasting our time!! Its the Election of our Country's PRESIDENCY for Gods sake!! I wish everyone would demand these media crooks who try and rig our elections be held responsible.
your support and your vote," he declared to titters from those who recognized the voting age error.
Titters?? Is that a "BOOB" -BOO too??
Texas Titters? This is titillating!
care4my....there is only one way to get "responsible" elections. Join the Popular Amendment Movement and help pass the Election/Campaign Finance Reform and Term Limits constitutional amendments. Go to www.faircampaignreform.us and download the two petitions, Sign them, circulate them among your family, friends, and neighbors, then help form a local, county, regional, and state-wide grassroots organization to get your Secretary of State to call for a constitutional convention to pass these two amendments.
For over fifteen months, I've been trying to get Newsviners to get involved instead of just complaining about our elections and campaign financing here on Newsvine. Are you ready to do something about it? There are several other groups working towards similar ends and they keep sending me or the webmaster emails to get involved in their organization instead of helping to push for this very in-depth procedure. It leaves NO room for any "interpretations" as do the other proposals. I also wonder just who is financing these other groups. There is NO organization, corporation, non-profit, union, or anyone other than myself and a couple others covering the expense of the website and THAT is the only "organization" behind it until YOU get involved and start your own local group. This is truly a grassroots effort. It is left up to each of you to do your part to pass on the petitions and get others involved.
BTW, I live in the US Virgin Islands where our ONLY representation in Congress is our Delegate to Congress who has NO voice or VOTE on the floor of the House, only a voice/vote in what ever committee(s) he/she can get assigned to. We can't vote for the president. We have NO representation in the Senate. But as a former Buckeye, I want to make sure that those who can have a real voice in Congress do something about it through their ballot box and actions.
Mistaking a name? Come on....what about Obama saying "If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor”. We didn’t hear much about that, now a Republican mistakenly says a name???? Another example of the media backing the Democrats. Liberal hypocrisy at its best raises its ugly head.
Where is the gaffe in that quote, Mosin? He was referring to Buffett and other billionaires who have joined Buffet in calling for higher taxes for the billionaires. Remember that the "effective" tax rate for these individuals is much less than yours or mine, thanks to the many credits, deductions, etc. that these people get to claim that you and I don't. Some of them are paying almost NO taxes, and this is especially true for the corporations, including GE.
Perry has had one gaffe after another, often several in one event. When he can't correctly name ANY of the justices, doesn't know when the 2012 elections are being held, or the age of eligibility, you think the media is against him? He is his own worst enemy.
I will check it out. I am a 2012 Presidential Candidate too, but you'd never know it from the lack of support from the news media...they will not even print a press release that lets people know that I'm even a candidate. I have a good plan for America too and it will fix this mess in a short period of time versus the 10-20 years or NEVER like the current batch of politicians keep saying. I have most of my ideas on my new facebook page called, "Vote Kathyern Lane 2012" but you have to go to the regular page first and then click on that page under my picture. Then scroll down to see my ideas on each subject. There is a plan for social security, welfare reform, education, healthcare, prison reform and the list goes on. There are also YouTube videos called, "POLITICAL SPANKING". If you'll look, you'll see that a lot of the current political candidates are using some of those same ideas...some even use my own words! I sent e-mails to all the senators and representatives...so they have all had a chance to see this. I hope you will too. The news media has decided for us which group of people we get to choose from...for instance, did you know that there are actually over 200 Presidential candidates this year? Why do we only see the 7-8 that on on television now? I have even sent Mr. Trump a request to p articipate in the debate that he is co-sponsoring. You would think with only one candidate attending so far, he'd accept. They are all alike. No one past the rich guys/gals or professional politicains will ever get a chance to help fix this country. It's all about making us a third world country. Don't they realize that when we fail many other countries fail as well? I'm going to try the radio stations next, but so far neither the news stations or the top 100 newspapers in this country care to let the people know about my plan or even that I'm running. I hope the grassroots effort will take off. So far, word of mouth is the only way I'm getting the word out. I hope you will check out my People's Plan for America. My website will be up in a few days and the address is:klanethepeoplespresident.com or you can e-mail me at: committee@klaneforpresident.com The People's Plan is solid. It will work. Check it out!
So all you took away from that was a misspoken name? Him not knowing how many justices our highest court in the land has must have slipped right past you. Or is that your selective reading abilities?
You do know that as President, if the chance arises, he would get to appoint someone. It would be a wise idea on his part to at least know the maximum justices allowed to sit at one time on the SCOTUS.
Is thinking the legal voting age is 21 also saying someones name wrong?
Your attempt to attack Obama in an article about Perry is an indication that you can't defend Perry and his obvious lack of knowledge of America 101. What you claim was a gaffe isn't. It was a statement about how he was standing up for the middle class and being proud of that fact. Are you implying that you don't know the definition of a gaffe?
Mosin, here are the facts. Janitor - 15% to about 25% tax rate. Millionaire or billionaire making their money off of stocks (And who in that class doesn't any more?) - 0 to 15% tax rate. And you have a problem with someone evening that out? I guess it depends on whether you love your country and want to pay your fair share or whether you just love your money.
Based on some of his other statements he also apparently believes that the President can dismiss sitting Supreme Court justices and appoint new ones at will.
Severed Head...Two weeks ago, there was a full page article about Supreme Court Justice Roberts in a conservative NY paper that unwittingly revealed what a shill for the GOP he really is. He will never propose an issue before the court that the GOP doesn't first approve. Roberts should be impeached. He is not reading law. Unless the GOP IS the new law of the land.
Rick Perry: God, Guns, Grover...
...and Gaffes.
You know in times past, I would get annoyed at the length of the election season for President. It's understandable as I come from a European system, where the election of a President would be just a for a few weeks, now I see the wisdom of its length here. It truly is a way of flushing out the pretenders.
Is it me or does anyone else consider it a farce that some who are as ignorant of the American system of government would have the chutzpah to think they could be a viable candidate for President? Perry does not have a clue as to the eligible age to vote, doesn't know the date of the election for which he is a candidate for President. I can overlook his brain freeze we all have them, from my perspective it was no big deal. But, he should know the names of the justices on the Supreme Court. He should know the age of eligibility for voting. These are basic to a politicians' interests. The fact that he doesn't, tells me a lot of about him in that he is very provincial and really not ready for prime time.
What I'd like to know, is, how is this playing in Tx? has this made his strength in Austin be weakened and if so, how will that affect his ability to govern for the rest of his term.
We think he's a corrupt jerk.
Someone convinced Slick Rick he was what the GOP was looking for.
Sucks to be him.
Texan voters would really like Rick Perry to come home. We have many questions for him about his phony budget that is going to hit us hard in the next few years. During his last gubernatorial campaign, he was afraid to debate the very articulate and informed Bill White, and now his intellectual shortcomings are there for all to see. Yes, we still have many goobers in Texas who will support him no matter what, but they are usually of limited intelligence. Many other Texans are starting to see Perry for the manipulator and hustler that he is.
To bad you didn't see that before you elected him for a 2nd term
Gingerbread Mamma, thumbs up. Good points well made. One of the few comments worth reading.
The problem is Texas has no gubernatorial term limits. He can keep running and getting elected until he dies. I will continue to vote for anyone but him as a proud Texan. This man makes me weep.
There is a large segment of the American public that is anti intellectual. They want to vote for people most like themselves, someone they feel they can talk to as an equal and agree with on most topics. They have the misguided idea that the average Joe is somehow more capable and trustworthy than a well educated. experienced politician whose record shows an interest in serving all constituents, intellectual ability, honesty and an ability to work within our system to move the political process foreward. That's how we got George W. Bush as President. Inept, unscrupulous, ill spoken, arrogant and disinterested in the general publics well being. That's how Texas got Perry. And kept him. I will be interested to see if Texans finally wake up and get rid of Perry next election.
OBVIOUSLY ANYONE can become President! Look at Obama! He thinks there are 57 states, he is the Commander in Chief and doesn't even know how to say corpsman. He takes more vacations than any other President, he's skyrocketed our national debt more than all the past Presidents combined since George Washington, he flies all over the country campaigning with OUR tax $$$. But the media doesn't dare point any of this out! They completely ignore that we know nothing of his background or that he has multiple Social Security #'s. He has promised to bring "fundamental change" to America. I don't care for his socialistic change, thank you! He and his cohorts have hi-jacked this country. They trample all over our Constitution while they get rich off of us taxpayers. His wife takes multi-million $ vacations, while pretending to care about the poor. This is the WORST President this country has ever had! He is an imposter and the media is making sure he gets away with it. They must be getting a big laugh out of how they are fooling the American people!
Get your facts straight before posting Hijalibre. GWB took the most vacation days of any president in history (879 down on the ranch, and that doesn't include all of the long days at Camp David.) He beat Reagan's record of "vacation days". After 31 days in office, here is the count since Reagan: Reagan 112, Clinton 28, GWB 180, Obama 61. And of course, NO vacation is ever a true vacation for any president.....there is always staff there, and meetings one after another, and the president is always in 24/7 communication with the staff at the WH, the NSC, etc.
Actually, GWB has the record for debt creation since his budgets NEVER included the costs of the two wars that he started. At least Obama has included those costs in the budgets.
This country was hijacked decades ago when we failed to listen to the ONLY good GOP president since Lincoln or maybe Teddy....I'm referring to Eisenhower who warned us to avoid the military/industrial complex. Both parties are guilty of this hijacking. As far as his flying all over the country "campaigning" on the taxpayers $$$, EVERY president has done that, especially when seeking re-election. Trampling over the Constitution???? Look back to the previous administration....the Patriot Act was the greatest violation of the Constitution of all of the various ones that prior administrations (and Congress, since they are the ones who actually wrote and passed all of those laws that trampled on the Constitution) committed.
The First Lady vacations are paid for NOT by the taxpayers, but by them personally, as with all other First Ladies. Only the Secret Service protection is paid for by the taxpayers, according to all of the information I've ever seen.....hell, we are still paying for SS protection for all of the past living First Ladies, VP's, Presidents, etc.
I stopped reading right there.
You clearly did not do a single bit of research about that subject. Why should anyone continue reading your post if you're just going to intentionally lie?
When the President before Obama had spent nearly 3 of his 8 years away from the WH, your claim against Obama falls apart as the lie that it is.
Oops, I just caught a typo that I missed before clicking "post". It was supposed to be 31 months, not days. Sorry about that folks. I was interrupted by a phone call and didn't catch that error. Going back over comments now, I see that no one really noticed and then commented on the error.
Applause NYMike and Anti-Trust from Texas.
Hijalibre - You can hate obama all you want.. but if you are not going to present facts... your comments (more like whining and complaining) are mute.
Gingerbread...Perry is typical of Texas. They never leave their state. They aspire to higher positions in government their insular mentalities are unready to accept. Then, they figure the rest of the country should be as glorious as they think their state is.
Landfills of bragging are all there is for as far as the eye can see. Then, you visit the regions past Big Oilville and you see how real Texans are struggling and barely making it all while the Caddoos, the Big Oil Houston Proper mansions grow and the taxes are used to promote Big Oil, all while their own citizens have substandard educations, healthcare and quality of life.
They've used up all of the natural oil resources in their state, so now they think they can turn the rest of the states into a polluted Big Oil No Man's land like their state is now.
The reason Bush took so many vacations is because the Republicans couldn't trust him to be in Washington that often. It was hard keeping him away from wanting to play with the red phone. He tried to use it to call out for pizza and beer.
TLM...To be fair, Bush took all those vacations because his Big Daddy and Cheney had a deal long before Bush Jr. ever took office. Cheney's party didn't want him in 1994. Cheney had a burning desire to get to the White House if he had to steal his way into it.
Think about this. In 1994, the GOP wouldn't put Cheney out there. By the mid 1990's, Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, a then Texas Industry that not only supplied military equipment but also was responsible for cementing oil rigs. So, the deal with Cheney was one hand washes the other. And all Cheney had to do was go to his old political ally and crony, GHWB and plant the idea of being VP while another Bush bought his way into the White House. Meanwhile, back at Halliburton, the Iraq war was part of the deal. Halliburton's CEO Cheney would get the VP position. Halliburton would get the Iraq war and Sonny would become the president in vitro.
Worked for them. And all they had to do was keep Bush Baby out on his Crawford ranch hacking away at the trees.
Thanks for setting the record straight, anti-trust proponent! Regarding Perry, I couldn't be happier that he's running for President--it finally exposes what a lightweight he really is. I can proudly say that I have never voted for him nor his predecessor. Unfortunately, Perry has been getting away with his good looks and dirty tricks in order to win the last few elections. If people cannot see the damage he has done to our public education, our environment, and our reputation as a state, then they are blind or willfully ignorant. I hope his brief stint on the national stage and ensuing exit will be a prelude to the end of his "reign" down here in TX.
What interests me is the fact that he was elected Governor in TX & he certainly wasn't any smarter then. How did that happen?
Texans respect a good haircut.
Kristin simple...it was TEXAS
Beer & Bubba rules there
Not intellect and ability
Bush 2 exemplified that
Part of the reason he has been elected and reelected is his handlers never allowed him to have an unscripted interview with an open mike and an interviewer who was not a republican contributor. All of his handlers have been preparing him for open mikes for years--you cant fix stupid though.
Damn. For a guy who can't find his own butt with both hands and a Geiger counter, Perry cannot seem to miss his foot when he shoots his mouth off.
The flushing sound ol' Rick is hearing is definitely NOT the sound of applause!
I Love the post Sailcat.Says it all!
Hi Gloria! I've missed you around here! You are a rare voice of reason!
Hi Sailcat glad to have you as a friend.You to are a breath of Fresh Air.
Thanks, Gloria! Happy Holidays!
Books > God, guns, shootin' stuff
There are 8 supreme court judges. There are 29 planets in the universe, and the solar system is 126 miles wide. I will create 26 trillion jobs as president.
And the only alternatives the republicans can offer are Newt and Ricky Santorum? Why does it seem like we're doomed?
Obummer.............
I think you must have got your quotes from Obama or maybe even Obiden, both are really high on smarts lol.
Poor Roy, you just don't comprehend how "out of it" you really are. The teleprompter stuff was funny for about a week.......3 years ago.
"Obiden" really Roy? Is that really the highest level of discourse your capable of?
I guess that makes you perfect for the GOP.
I kinda want him to stick around in the campaign, if only for some great laughs!
The people of Texas have elected this man governor multiple times. Perhaps they should be prohibited from voting in the national election. They may be as dumb as he is.
You may have stumbled across an inconvenient truth.
Hey! Not all Texans voted for Perry! I certainly never have. Unfortunately, not enough people take time to vote.
Your saying that all Texans are dumb is like saying all Americans are stupid because Bush II got elected (not once--but twice!)--albeit with a little help from friends in Florida, Ohio, and on the Supreme Court.
....all I can say to you people who voted this guy into office in Texas is - you just must be so proud!
He went on to blast the court as "eight unelected and frankly unaccountable judges. "
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This is a perfect example of the media trying to spin things. What he MEANT by that
was, simply, that there is only ONE elected and accountable judge on the Supreme
Court.
By the way, does anyone out there know who that might be ?
Is this a trick question? Aren't they all picked by the president and confirmed by the senate? Einstein.
I would assume he means the Chief Justice there is only one of them and 8 Associate Justices even though they are all selected by the President and serve untill they die,retire, or are impeached. The current Chief Justice is John Roberts
Seeing hows your so smart, when was the last time, one was thrown out of office or even repremanded.
"By the way, does anyone out there know who that might be ?" -- Montemayor, of course. Who else?
I assume your question however irrelevant it might be is aimed at me. So far only 1 supreme court judge has ever been impeached and that was Samuel Chase in like 1805. I don't understand why the question is relevant to the topic at hand though.
Tell us uneducated people who the elected Supreme Court Justice is. Pleease, we are dying to know/
Brent .... YES ! This is called tongue-in-cheek humor. Now, everyone,
please go back and re-read my comment with your sense of humor switch
reset to ON.
The first part, about the spin, is what any good politician will try to turn this into.
The point of the second question is....exactly what you said !
Gee whiz-All you people are scary. Supreme court judges are not elected-President picks a person who is confirmed or denied by the Senate.Simple-Perry is an idiot and has no idea how goverment works.
The supreme court can be controlled by the other branches-Supreme Court has no enforcement powers whatsoever. As Andrew Jackson said when he was president-Let them enforce the decisions they made. Also Congress decides what kinds of cases the supreme court can review,congress also decides how many justices sit on the supreme court.
And had great hope for Perry , when I first heard about him...
He was the candidate to beat. I have no idea what happened to him. I guess Mitch won't be VP either. Wow...Newt is all we got.
Now that's a scary thought!
Peace.
Go home Rick the fat lady has sung.
Yep, four feet tall, laying down.
he may even be more sorrier then the last president from Texas........what was his name?
He's just like every other republican running for president, including the retarded cowboy from Texas that was elected to office for two terms. Trying to win an election to run a country based on blind faith in religion that has no scientific support should say enough about all of them. Bush outlawed stem cell research because it meant man was "playing god", Palin thinks dinosaurs walked with man only 2000 years ago, Bachman thinks that homosexuality is a sin and her families clinic can "cure" it, Romney is a Mormon ('nuff said).... What do all these things have in common? They're beliefs of extremely stupid people who are very out of touch with reality. Say what you want about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama with regards to their policies and personal habits, the fact is we're in a lot better shape as a nation while under their watch than any of the other meat head alternatives.
Now wait a minute. I am going to qualify myself a little bit here: I am NO Republican supporter, especially of Bush. However... Let's not misquote facts. He did not totally outlaw stem cell research! He limited the scope of the research. In my opinion it was still the wrong decision to even limit the research but he did not totally ban it. I am sick of hearing this when it is not true.
He absolutely did. There is a ban on human stem cell research, all treatments and studies are based out of Europe and Asia.
@Splitting Migraine , once again don't let your facts get in the way of the truth.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/readme/2003/10/taking_bush_personally.html
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/obama-lifts-bush-limits-on-stem-cell-research/
news.yahoo.com/geron-announcement-throws-stem-cell-research-201019319.html
Geron is in San Diego, and during the federally over funded program they were, and still are, one of the leaders in Stem Cell Research.
Can you imagine Rick Perry going to China or Russia or France or...anywhere and trying to remember, much less pronounce, the name of foreign leaders or the name of their ministers or cabinet members or ambassadors? Can you imagine him being able to have even a surface grasp of the history of another country when he so clearly can't manage to grasp our own? Today, he trotted out the tired dog-whistle about Christians being suppressed and afflicted in our majority Christian country...again. Uggg! That he ever polled in the teens or even higher is embarrassing. I know more about almost anything, other than Texas, than he appears to and that isn't saying too much!
I think he has a fine grasp of history and other important things. The problem is he can not articulate it. Just because one can not articulate what they are thinking does not mean they are not thinking of the correct thing. He knew what he wanted to say when he tried to name the three agencies. However, he could not articulate his thoughts into words. Bush had the same issues, except his wasn't as extreme as Gov. Perry's. And quite frankly, it could simply be because of the intense spotlight that is being put on him as a candidate for the United States Presidency. He might be able to articulate himself just fine in the State of Texas when he is only facing election there and the spotlight isn't as harsh as it is on the national stage.
At least he wouldn't be bowing to them or kissing their a--es and telling them how bad we are like some others.
I think that being President means being under an intense spotlight all the time.
Oh. That's a shame. Good thing the ability to form a thought and sentence in the face of a crisis isn't important in a presidential candidate. Foreign leaders respect stupidity.
"eight unelected and frankly unaccountable judges. "
Has this guy ever read the Constitution? That is the whole point, they are appointed for life and are not supposed to be answerable to either political party while intrepreting Consitiutional law. Now, I admit it hasn't always worked out that way, but that was the intent of the founding fathers. Between the gaffs and stupidity this guy is a joke!!!
Yes, I was more appalled at the "unelected and unaccountable" part than I was at the "eight" part. Getting the number wrong can be chalked up to a momentary lapse, but not understanding the fundamental nature of the Court is the mark of someone who doesn't know anything about the Constitution.
MSNBC and Perry missed the fact that 18 is the voting age.... OOPS... go Ron Paul!
Perry is a bit TOO human to be president. Come on, let's find someone who deserves the role.
Tell me Gov. Perry, is it a crime in Texas to be hungry, cold, or mentally ill?
Texas really wouldn't trade food stamps in an armed standoff, Really.
I sure as hell don't want my country being run like Texas.
Yes Blaise, it is, that is why you are not in Texas!
You can't vote with your student ID, but your gun license works just fine.
All Texans in high places have been the bane of the Union, no need to name them all but one Charlie Wilson who in sharing with the Islam fascists the weaponry, intelligence and methods of guerrilla warfare conspired in our own undoing - 9/11 and the aftermath. Bush, the elder, and his Machiavellian oil cartel conspiracy with Saudi Wahhabists monarchy to Sunnify the Middle East and beyond, all driven by greed, brought the state of the nation to what it is today. Not another Texan! Please.
Thank you Republican Party for putting both the most amazing group of incompetent idiots that the world could ever imagine. Obama is now a shoe in and he shouldn't be but you folks screwed it up to a degree that has not been seen in decades.
Don't count on that. Current polling shows him ahead of the current crop of Republicans by only 5 - 10 points, and that is with a +/- 5 point difference in error. So he could be even to 5 points ahead of these folks. That is not a lot of points, in a long election cycle (such as the Presidential Election), to make up. Also, I find it difficult to believe that the Republicans are not going to elect someone that can compete with Obama in the election. I don't think they want to be embarrassed again, and this time they will at least elect their most competitive candidate. If they don't, the are showing that they are in a weak position now, and are looking ahead in four years to someone else that they think shows viability but they don't want to put that person in the spotlight and ruin that chance.
Think about it. What is the Democrats plan after Obama? Do they even have one? It surely is not Joe Biden. And it sure is hell is NOT Nancy Pelosi. One can't get the base fired up and one is TOO polarizing to even think about.
So, who in the current crop do you see as being able to compete in the general election with President Obama?
That's honestly difficult to say, because I have biased opinions in favor of President Obama. Also it is far too early to make those determinations. The Iowa Caucus hasn't even had their primary yet. So who is anyone to say who is viable and who isn't (except in obvious cases such as continued gaffes and continued sex scandals)?
Chris -
I agree with your sentiments, but we ALL have a stake of one kind or another in who will be the candidates. It's hard for me to be objective when watching the current crop of GOP contenders/pretenders, but when folks like George Will (the High Priest of American Conservatism) dismiss that entire group as "entrepreneurs, charlatans, and entrepreneurial charlatans," we have lost something critical as a two-party nation.
It's a damn shame we can't see and understand that internally, but I'm sure it's understood internationally. And it will be used against us. If it hasn't been already.
So no, I wouldn't pretend to say who is viable and who isn't for the GOP. But when their own political gurus shake their heads in disgust, that tells me none of those candidates -- or the GOP itself -- care to listen to those in the know, and those with their best interests at heart.
And since they refuse to do that, I have no confidence they'll be interested in listening to average American voters like you and me. They're too busy filling the sails of a rudderless ship. Or trying to sell books.
I agree with Geo. Will, but what I don't understand is why Republicans would even bother to answer polling questions or to vote in these GOP primary's. There seems to be a lot of Republicans that actually think any of these people are real Candidates to be President of the U.S.A.. The level of competency is very low among GOP Candidates. But after I say this I have to remember Bush served 2 terms.
We're laughin' at these morons but be very afraid...There was a major-league dummy in the white house(Bush 2) for 8 years...
Every human being having been dissected by a partial and powerful entity (the liberal media) can be made to look foolish to the masses. If our standing president were to be held to the same scrutiny as the GOP candidates his approval rating would stand at 20% and any of the GOP candidates would beat him in the upcoming election. The travesty is not Obama's socialist agenda or the questionable incompetency of the Republican candidates, it is the willful and malicious agenda of the main stream media.
Every human being having been dissected by a partial and powerful entity (the liberal media) can be made to look foolish to the masses
keithinfl.....only a fool makes him/herself look foolish. The liberal media only reports how foolish the fools are.
I'm voting for President Obama again. But, he is not a shoe in, even with this group of hate-filled GoP candidates. Because there are so many people out there who just plain hate our president and so many that are pulled in by phony christian values that we could very well end up with one of them. Even Newt, who was tossed out on his ear with a $300,000 fine for ethics violations is a darling of this group of voters. It's very frightening.
One last comment. Every person in high office makes errors when speaking. Saying North instead of South Korea. But, in Perry's case, for example, it isn't a slip of the tongue - it's truly not knowing. That is the big difference.
Higher education does not qualify as wisdom. Nor is money synonymous with commonsense. And a political party does not define right or wrong any more than character is defined by a degree or a checkbook. To oversee American government, which only exists to further the best interest and protection of its citizens, the foundation of the government must look to its mission statement (Constitutional law) which should be at its core, consistently definable, accessible and manageable. Education is important for comprehension of the country's mission, but wisdom keeps us on point when factions work to confuse and corrupt. Money is a tool to be used for citizen benefit, but commonsense weighs the use of resources based on the reality of certain and irrefutable facts. The overreach of government, beyond its own basic premise and law, serves no citizen, corrupts the system and exposes the country to every kind of manipulation and coersion. It incites cynicism, desparity, mistrust, fear, contempt and war. That's where we are. I don't want a figurehead President, I want someone with character who understands the law, puts it into practice as it is defined and gives me my liberty to live my life with the security of knowing my government must work within a framework that every citizen is guaranteed and that the framework is understandable by every citizen. Then Americans cannot be overwhelmed with worry, suspicion and concern that its government is working behind the scenes to sell them out, whether through coniving or incompetence. Is Perry presidential material? Not based on what he knows. But nor is Obama, based on what he does. If anyone is running for President who professes to have the knowledge of the law of the land and can prove it, who swears to follow the Constitution which protects and upholds citizens rights, and has the proven character to affirm those practices as displayed in their consistent actions, those are Presidential qualities and that person should be strongly considered for the role. In every election in this country, we should be inundated with candidates that have those qualities. I only see one.
Who ever runs for President he will be facing a Congress who won't pass a bill without a super majority because of partisan politics