Justice Dept. warns Ala. sheriffs, police on immigration enforcement

The Justice Department has sent a letter to dozens of local law enforcement agencies in Alabama that receive federal money, warning them that they risk losing that funding if they're not careful in how they enforce Alabama's tough new immigration law.

The Obama administration has already sued the state, claiming the law is unconstitutional. Now it's keeping the pressure on by addressing how the law is carried out.

In an unusual letter, the assistant attorney general for civil rights writes to 156 Alabama sheriff's offices and police departments, telling them that the federal government is monitoring how they enforce the part of the law that requires checking the immigration status of people who are stopped for questioning.

It is critical, says Thomas Perez, that local law agencies "ensure that your enforcement of this law does not result in unlawful stopping, questioning, searching, detaining, or arresting" in violation of the Constitution "or targeting of racial and ethnic minorities."

Other states have passed similar laws, but they've been blocked by federal courts. The part of Alabama's law that requires checking immigration status, however, was allowed to go into effect by a federal judge.

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What part of we cannot possibly round-up & deport 12 million people do you people NOT understand!

Instead of punishing someone based on the color of their skin - why can't we come up with a viable answer?

How about we put the knee-jerk reactions aside for once and talk about solutions?

Leave the emotions at the curb and let's talk...

  • 17 votes
#1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:27 PM EST

Yeah, those bastards in Ala. better be careful, the guys at the DOJ and ATF are not real keen on law and order.

Why else would they give guns to drug cartels to be taken to Mexico, but now bother to tell the Mexican government?

Oh and Feisty - you take away their ability to get employment and free stuff and they will leave all by themselves.

You know, cause it ain't like we imported them. Nope they got here all on their own.

It's ok they can come here to Cali. We literally throw out the red carpet for them.

Plus we have all this extra cash to used to pay for them being here.

  • 22 votes
#1.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:31 PM EST

Feisty,

It is not as simple as folks sneaking over the border as Prunella says.

Prunelly's racist statements won't help this discussion.

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:41 PM EST

Feisty

I have images of a gestapo type raid where the SS surround a building/neighborhood and take the undocumented aliens away in the dead of the night.

Unlike the pogroms of the 40s I do think that the people will fight back especially considering the guns on the street due to the NRA efforts to do away with any reasonable gun regulation. (my apologies to any and all the Jews that did fight back; was just making a point)

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:43 PM EST

OOps Alabama.......got yourselves a bit of a problem with that 'papers please' law...Bet they are still kissing up to the Executives of Mercedes Benz, the German didn't have the proper (according to their law) papers....Double OOps......Sorry, we were wrong.......Please forgive us!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes-exec-arrested-in-alabama-under-immigration-law-after-traffic-stop.html

  • 6 votes
#1.4 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:44 PM EST

The Obama Diary:

UnitedHealth Group has released their 2011 annual state-by-state health rankings. Wondering where your state ranked? [...] Vermont is the nation’s healthiest state, according to the report, followed by fellow Northeastern states New Hampshire and Connecticut in the second and third spots respectively. Rounding out the top 5 healthiest states were Hawaii and Massachusetts. On the other end of the spectrum was Mississippi as the least healthiest, followed by Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Alabama.

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:58 PM EST

Again the liberals spew a complete lack of understanding on how the law here in Alabama works. There aren't unreasonable stops by law enforcement. The police aren't lining the streets with their eyes on every vehicle... How this law is being enforced is through employment. If a person applies for a job, they have to have their background checked. It applys to everyone, not just hispanics. If the prospective employee doesn't meet the requirements of the background check, they are politely told that someone else has been hired for the position. The lack of employment for illegals will cause them to leave. If an employer is found not background checking employees, there's stiff fines.

Leave it to the liberals to spin what they don't know about.

  • 20 votes
#1.6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:00 PM EST

Feisty, the TeaPeople don't want a viable solution. They just need something/someone to villify and blame for things that may be wrong. Building fences, double fences, electrified fences and on and on with nonsense.

But because they financially like the cheap labor (slave wages) they refuse to hold the employers responsible. Verify is a dirty word!

There is no way to deport millions of folks.

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:01 PM EST

You know folks there was an article recently in the Washington Post stating that the number of illegals crossing the border is down to a 1970 low. Seems that boogey man the right is trying to use doesn't quite work.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:14 PM EST

You see the way a liberal thinks? Let's take chilled comments as an example: But because they financially like the cheap labor (slave wages) they refuse to hold the employers responsible. Verify is a dirty word!

Spoken like a true uninformed liberal. It's at the workplace Alabama is taking action.

Let me ask you chilled - when was the last time you were here in Alabama to investigate what the new laws were all about? What legislation have you read that explains to everyone what the laws are? And you act like you are in the know... you know nothing!

  • 16 votes
#1.9 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:19 PM EST

Economists: Stimulus Money Saved Alabama From Devastation: Written by Bob Lowry, The Huntsville Times

While Alabama's unemployment rate in July was 10.3 percent, the stimulus package has been reported as saving and/or creating thousands of jobs. Estimates vary wide - from about 9,000 to more than 17,000.

Dr. Keivan Deravi, an economist at Auburn University Montgomery, says state government would have been devastated without the federal assistance.

"Had we not had this in the budget, the outcome would have been absolutely dreadful," he said. "The impact on the education side would have been unimaginable, to be honest with you."

The top 10 programs in Alabama that have spent stimulus money through the past quarter are Medicaid, $631.04 million; Department of Industrial Relations, $283 million; Alabama Department of Transportation, $272 million; food stamp assistance, $182.8 million; government services through the governor's office, $118.58 million; Title I grants for education, $73.21 million; disabilities act through education, $65.11 million; human resources, $30.98 million and weatherization programs, $16.83 million.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act will eventually send an estimated $3.57 billion to Alabama over the life of the program.

*********************

I'm glad the state of Alabama received much needed help. Now, where is their humanity towards fellow human beings?

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:23 PM EST

@chilled

You know, the Latino community makes up a very large voting block. Now they are being demonized by the right, but come the general, do the Rebaggers really think that that community will forget all that was said about them - just because of their names or the color of their skin - and say, "Oops, just the primary, we really like you. Vote for us"?

  • 10 votes
#1.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:25 PM EST

phenolphthalein - The number of illegals is down because they are also feeling the pinch of Obama's economy. Jobs have fallen so much even illegals are having a hard time finding work. That's how good your president is for the economy.

  • 17 votes
#1.12 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:26 PM EST

Brian, my one and only true love. You are a putz. Maybe you need to take a history course or two. The mess we are in now was not started by this administration and your ideas (or lack thereof) are straight out of the 1920's. Now run along now. You are boring me.

And FYI, colorless, am not. I am all the vibrant colors of the rainbow.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:29 PM EST

phenolphthalein seems to think illegal aliens have the right to vote. I know democrats will give them every chance but the requirement for them is they have to vote democrat. Now that's voting in it's finest. Democrats cheating for votes they don't deserve. And to think Obama was all over fairness today. Maybe you didn't learn the lesson of fairness.... wait!! I take that back... your version of fairness is if a democrat can get away with it, but a republican can't... that's fairness to you!

  • 14 votes
#1.14 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:31 PM EST

Aw, that's the best you got brianbbad? Maybe you should look up census records on all those Latinos who are both natural born and here legally. They don't like all that stuff you are saying. Oh, and if you are capable of it, better look up the fact that the minorities of today you love to denigrate will be the majority by 2050. So, yeah, I think they make up a LARGE LEGAL voting block. Oops. You lose again.

  • 12 votes
#1.15 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:39 PM EST

Brianb: Who is cheating?

And I see a democratic president helped Alabama. A southern red state.

And why isn't this considered socialism? The stimulus literally save the state. Where is the uproar?

  • 13 votes
#1.16 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:39 PM EST

President Obama's health care legislation is truly helping people - particularly our senior citizens. It doesn't matter what state you live in - Alabama, Massachusetts, California, Illinois, Mississippi -

This legislation does not discriminate.

Perhaps someday one of you here will be helped. Or perhaps your child or parent.

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:46 PM EST

phenolphthalein said: Brian, my one and only true love. You are a putz. Maybe you need to take a history course or two. The mess we are in now was not started by this administration and your ideas (or lack thereof) are straight out of the 1920's. Now run along now. You are boring me.

Resorting to name calling? Putz? You can't come up with anything more creative than that? I am truly disappointed in your creativity. At least with my nickname for you, there's true meaning behind it.

The mess has been magnifyed by this administration 10 fold. Worst president in history... Carter is breathing a sigh of relief.

Your request for me to run along is hilarious. You aren't the arbitor of these boards... and if you don't like what I say, do like your queen bee does... put me on ignore. This way I can talk behind your back and make fun of your posts.

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:48 PM EST

Aw, putzy, it is my love term for you. And you are boring me now. You regurgitate the same old talking points. Yawn.

  • 8 votes
#1.19 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:51 PM EST

phenolphthalein we are not discussing citizens, natural born or otherwise legal. There is a difference. Here, look at these two words... and yes, both of them are words:

Legal - meaning that the person's status is that of citizen or allowed through a visa

Illegal - meaning that a person is here outside of the bounds of the law.

I would think that even you should be able to tell the difference.

Someone should inform you that illegal aliens are not allowed to vote. I don't think you got the memo.

  • 11 votes
#1.20 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:00 PM EST

Putzy, see post 5.9. It fits you perfectly.

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:02 PM EST

Aww, looks like phinep is enjoying her wine this evening.

So we going white or red this evening.

  • 12 votes
#1.22 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:09 PM EST

phenolphthalein - you gone yet? If not, good night sweetie. I hope you have a wonderful evening reading your horror novel. Don't let the right wing people ever get you down... I wouldn't ever want to take away the thought that ignorance is bliss. May you have a blissful night.

  • 12 votes
#1.23 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:20 PM EST

You know, Brian, I think the DOJ is hoping an influx of new blood might mitigate the effects of the time-honored Alabama tradition of marrying their own sisters. I mean, just look at you. Damn.

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:06 PM EST

What part of we cannot possibly round-up & deport 12 million people do you people NOT understand!

Instead of punishing someone based on the color of their skin - why can't we come up with a viable answer?

How about we put the knee-jerk reactions aside for once and talk about solutions?

Again carrot top is invoking her 'pot calling the kettle black' strategy. Must have been a late night of truck stop hopping for her.

First of all the subject is Alabama's right as a state to control the serious illegal alien problem the color of their skin isn't the issue. Second of all Alabama has a population of 4.8 million... I'm pretty sure their aren't 12 million illegals living there.

Another carrot top post full of hyperbole and misinformation geared only to stir up emotions against a State merely exercising it's right to protect its legal citizens! The DOJ's problem is pressure from the andministration and the democrats to increase its voting base!

Carrot top, you are such a hypocrite!

  • 17 votes
#1.25 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:26 AM EST

You know, Brian, I think the DOJ is hoping an influx of new blood might mitigate the effects of the time-honored Alabama tradition of marrying their own sisters. I mean, just look at you. Damn.

Great argument Sailcat! carrot top will be proud! :0)))))))

  • 14 votes
#1.26 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:37 AM EST

Nothing like a President of THE UNITED STATES suing people for upholding the U.S. Constitution.Why does Obama hate the Constitution?

Shoving Healthcare down our throats illegally then picking who has to pay and who doesn't. (Illegal)

Dodd Frank (Illegal)

Chrysler Bailout then bankruptcy,thenstrong arming judges to give the remaining money to union members instead of bond holders(illegal).

Solyndra etc..

IfObama hates the U.S. so much become Supreme Ruler of some other Socialist country

Hillary 2012

  • 5 votes
#1.27 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 8:11 AM EST

time4truth....you are truly uninformed and uneducated. It is exactly what he IS doing. It is not Barney Fifes job to do ICE work. I grew up in the south, went to college in the south, and let me tell you, most cops there aren't qualified to write parking tickets. We definitely do not want them trying to do a FED job.

  • 3 votes
#1.28 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 11:54 AM EST

Feisty, what part of cut illegal aliens off from all jobs and all taxpayer funded services so they will self-deport do you NOT understand! And nobody is being punished based on the color of their skin. Illegal aliens are being punished for violating our immigration laws.

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM EST

Yeah, sure the states have a long history of enforcing laws that guarantee freedoms and rights equally for everyone ................ lol

  • 2 votes
#1.30 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:50 PM EST

Hey i heard today that the number of people trying to get into the US is way down, the number trying to get out is way up. Other countries are only issuing Tourist Visas to Americans.

    #1.31 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:16 PM EST

    Well if Al Gore Sr.(dem) and Sen Byrd (Dem)wouldn't have filibustered the Civil Rights Act it would have been passed sooner. I'm sure that's what you are referring to.

      #1.32 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:18 PM EST

      Hey GPOTTS Since you are so smart you already know this It's not the FEDS job. IT IS ALWAYS City, State, and then FED So says the Constitution.By the way what I stated earlier has nothing to do with that. I'm just stating Obama doesn't like the Constitution he has stated the framers "Forgot" to put some stuff in there and he claims he knows what they meant to do. I don't have a whole lot of pity for where you grew up I'm a Black south side of Chicago man not the easiest place to grow up either.

      I've said all along Hillary would have been better Obama just wasn't ready and he proves I'm right everyday.

      Hillary 2012

        #1.33 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:27 PM EST

        The framers did forget to put some stuff in. They forgot to put add the other 2/5ths of a human being into each black slave who made the Southern economy viable. Maybe next election, Obama will only need 3/5ths of 50% to win, since the Constitution counted a slave as 3/5ths of a person.

          #1.34 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:57 PM EST

          They also forgot to make Native Americans citizens until 1924. Sorry Pocahontas, unless you pay taxes, no vote for you.

          Women, you do not get to vote until 1920, sorry twice Pocahontas.

          By the way, anyone arguing that either group is not inherently entitled to full rights of citizenship uder the basic principles underlying the concept of natural law, I really have nothing to say to you, except go brush your tooth.

          • 1 vote
          #1.35 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:05 PM EST

          Who said that? I'm BLACK!!!! It was an ugly thing but when the Constitution was written slavery was legal in EVERY country of the world. Aricans sold other Africans to be slaves. If you want to get down to it even though it did not become law right away some of the states NEVER allowed slavery that was unheard of at that time. So dthanks for trying to give me a history lesson but remember it was not our beloved dem party who freed the slave it was those vile repubs. So my family thanks those vile repubs for that. Martin Luther King and Coretta Scott King were repubs.

          Hillary 2012

            #1.36 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:12 AM EST

            You are right, Eisenhower sent in troops to Little Rock to enforce desegregation and desegregated the military.

            I was not being partisan. I was making the point that the principles underlying the constitution are universally applicable regardless of race, creed, etc. That is why I was defending Obama's position that the Constitution left some stuff out. I commend you for looking past the party label. Remember though, Barry Goldwater Republicans are not Rick Perry Republicans, just like Massachusetts Democrats are not Arkanas Democrats.

            • 1 vote
            #1.37 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:03 AM EST

            We know the Constitution has needed to be tweaked along the way but not really due to the framers leaving things out per say. It was more due to the time period, at that time people would have flipped if slavery was omitted. Some of the frameres didn't like slavery but in the 1700's it was a way of life. Women voting wasn't even thought of, only male landowners could vote. Mr Obama said in a interview on the radio here in Chicago,that the framers of the Constitution forgot to put in that we should share our income equally (socialism) and he admitted hewas of socialist nature. This of course was before he was running for President. He played himself off as a moderate during the campaign....ah not so much. He wont get my vote again. Have a great day Primate guy.

            Hillary 2012

              #1.38 - Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM EST
              Reply

              Who's Prunella?

              • 1 vote
              Reply#2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:46 PM EST

              Can it be any clearer?? The Obama administration is attempting to force a State of the union to desist in enforcing the law.

              The threat of withholding Federal funding is a real slap in the face to all residents of Alabama.

              Notice also, that the Obama administration is doing nothing to increase deportations in Alabama, or anywhere else for that matter. Sealing the border is never mentioned by the Obama administration. Only by the Republican candidates.

              In effect, we are paying the federal government, and they are fighting us.

              Nice.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:47 PM EST

              This administration has deported more illegal aliens in 3 years than Bush did in 8. Don't believe me? Google can be your friend.

              • 6 votes
              #3.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:09 PM EST
              Reply

              Sad to say Feisty, a couple of years ago I visited Aushwitz ... it is remarkable what hate can accomplish.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#4 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:47 PM EST

              it is remarkable what hate can accomplish.

              Luckily at this point, we are still winning the hate mongering war here in the good old US of A!

              At least for today... ;o(

              Be very very diligent!

              • 10 votes
              #4.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:58 PM EST

              Just get out the Demn vote. Your morons are starting to make inroads with our morons.

              • 5 votes
              #4.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:04 PM EST

              ideaologyspoilstheview - I went to Auschwitz, Birkenau and Sachenhausen this year. I was OK until I saw the room full of human hair at Auschwitz. It had the hair of THOUSANDS of people that were interned there - men, women and children.

              It is too bad that we don't seem to learn from history, because we are setting up the SAME internal structure for internment and police action that the Nazis did in THIS country and nobody seems to care.

              We are searched (especially at airports) and now in Alabama we are asking people for their 'papers', just like they did in 1930-1945.

              Wake up, people.

              • 5 votes
              #4.3 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:33 AM EST

              asking for someone's immigration status does no way equate to the camps in germany.

              fear mongering at it's best

              • 1 vote
              #4.4 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:01 PM EST

              @Pietro Even our duly elected President (and the only one that I know of) was asked for his "papers". The real desire of the Republican Party and the Tea Partiers means that we must all look alike, think alike, be willing to give up our personal freedoms in the name of religion (Christianity). I said to my husband the other night about the treatment of the occupiers - when do the police recognize the fact that these people are citizens of the US, those they have pledged to protect, rather than doing the business of the big-monied interests in this country. Why don't the banks do their own set-outs on foreclosures, why are the police to do these?

              Look for more of the same, or worse, if Republicans get elected. Women who cannot get proper health care, or abortions if that is their choice. Being forced to carry a child of a rapist or relative. Being forced to sit outside a hospital and die because you don't insurance. Being forced into slave labor because those people as Romney calls them (they are really corporations, not people) have made decisions that you will not be able to find another job with health insurance if you leave our corporation. And the Republicans just boo the gay soldiers, clap when someone is left to die because they don't have insurance, cheer capital punishment. What do you think they want to do to the rest of us?

              I am a senior citizen, am still workiing, I live in a modest home in an historic neighborhood in Newport, KY. My husband who is also a senior citizen (with cancer which we hope is in remission) lost his job 2 1/2 years ago and has not been able to find another job. His COBRA ran out and we could not afford the premiums we would have to pay for someone with cancer. We have a bargain with our doctor of 30 years that he will discount anything we need to have done. I am on Medicare. My next door neighbor who worked at Fidelity has been out of work for more than 3 years and cannot find a job. His wife a paralegal had her hours cut in half. I have a bad back so I cannot go sit on the cold ground as our occupier heroes do, or stand for hours. But I have put up signs in my windows: "I AM the 99%" "And so are you".

              To hear Republican posters on here tell it, in their hateful, denigrating ways, the Republicans somehow believe that only those without work, losing jobs and benefits, being foreclosed upon are Democrats and the whole majority of Republican voters are the only ones employed, never lose their jobs or their benefits, never get foreclosed on, can always find work, or are eminently wealthy. What kind of brain can actually believe that kind of crap and fight against their own self-interests? It truly amazes me.

              "They came for the Jews and no one stood up, next they came for.....

                #4.5 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:03 PM EST

                ideologyspoilstheview, you're comparing the killing of millions of innocent Jews by the Nazis to us sending illegal alien lawbreakers back to their home countries where they belong? You ought to hang down your head in shame.

                • 1 vote
                #4.6 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:30 PM EST
                Reply

                What part of "we dont want 12 million more illegals flooding into the US, because of an amnesty that will encourage more lawbreaking" don't you understand?

                Seriously, what is your 'viable' answer, Feisty?

                An amnesty that will encourage millions more Mexicans and others to flout our laws and come North for free stuff?

                • 9 votes
                #5 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:51 PM EST

                Poor poor booby - ya still have your major Fiesty crush I see...

                Can I offer you a tissue & vaseline?

                • 5 votes
                #5.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                Bob, it's useless. Feisty won't engage. All she's good for is calling people names. Her purpose here is simply to obfuscate any reasonable thought process. She's afraid of meaningful dialogue. Intelligence just isn't her bag. She's real good at namecalling though. Kinda like my 3 year old grandaughter. You stupid conservative... You stone age thinker.... as if her thought process has any actual positive benefit.

                • 8 votes
                #5.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:09 PM EST

                Feisty won't engage

                Engage in WHAT?

                Mindless drivel from a pre-pubescent teenager with sticky sheets?

                Sorry BB - dude, booby already has 'dibs' on me darlin!

                I have neither the time or inclination to engage with you...

                Better luck next time! ;o)

                Now go blow your dog whistle for your crew of collapse cowards... K?

                • 7 votes
                #5.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:15 PM EST

                @Feisty & BrianBoB

                And just who is going to clean up that mess? Apprenti?

                • 3 votes
                #5.4 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:15 PM EST

                Feisty, the only way the fools on the right can win is to pit everyone against each other. Brown skin vs. black skin vs white skin vs Jew vs Muslim vs Catholic vs Protestant. Sad to see Americans treating each other like this instead of being one nation, together.

                • 6 votes
                #5.5 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:17 PM EST

                Do not be unduly dismayed Phine and just Dandy, The current brand of Republicans are a dying breed. Remember the 'astute' words of Newtski ... women outnumber men in the halls of higher learning ... hope you are still around when all the glass ceilings come crashing down.

                • 5 votes
                #5.6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:42 PM EST

                I can hardly wait. Women rule.

                • 8 votes
                #5.7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:45 PM EST

                The TeaPeople even hinted at repealing the 14th Amendment.

                I suppose that would mean that we, all of us would be illegal unless you're really a Native American.

                TeaPeople, are you an Anchor Baby, guess so?

                ...and yes phancy.....'Women rule'

                • 5 votes
                #5.8 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:57 PM EST

                @chilled

                Think I will call it a night. Going to read for a while. The book is about a zombie, to survive, has to suck and eat the brains out of Rebaggers. Problem is, the zombie is starving to death. It appears none of them have any brains that have any value! (er, nutritionally, yeah, that's it, nutritionally)

                • 6 votes
                #5.9 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:01 PM EST

                Sorry to inform you Fiesty - I don't dig redheads. Every redhead I've come across either dyes their hair, or has too many freckles.

                I forgot - Your method of engagement is attack. I guess in a way you are correct... why bother to engage you... I'm just not that masochistic.

                • 8 votes
                #5.10 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:08 PM EST

                Have a good evening phancy.

                Reading about the TeaPeople can be frightening, don't have a nightmare.

                • 4 votes
                #5.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:09 PM EST

                or has too many freckles

                Why am I not surprised you are into racial profiling! ;o)

                BTW: Redheads ROCK - you would know that if you ever tried one little buddy! ;o)

                • 7 votes
                #5.12 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:11 PM EST

                [The book is about a zombie, to survive, has to suck and eat the brains out of Rebaggers. Problem is, the zombie is starving to death.]

                BRAAAAAAINS...

                I want ....BRAAAAAAINS...

                BRAAAAAAINS...HEYYYYYYYYYY wait a minute...these heads are all EMPTY!

                • 4 votes
                #5.13 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:14 PM EST

                Sheesh BrianB, didn't Cain teach you that denial just doesn't work?

                • 4 votes
                #5.14 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:21 PM EST

                Mickey, that was a one of a kind box of alphabets you had today.

                • 3 votes
                #5.15 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:26 PM EST

                I don't dig redheads.

                Redhead, blonde or brunette - inquiring minds want to know the last time you were with a woman who actually breathes?

                That harpee you have with the pump just doesn't cut it! ;o)

                • 5 votes
                #5.16 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:26 PM EST

                Feisty, I have solid info that Calista is a Sony prototype made in China. She is called I(of)Newt ... apologies to the Bard.

                • 6 votes
                #5.17 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:31 PM EST

                ROFL... thanks for the laugh Feisty... now saying those with freckles is racial profiling... what else will you liberals come up with? That's hilarious! I guess I'd better be careful though... you might call the PC police on me and they will punish me by making me read "Rules for Radicals!"

                How do you know I've never "tried" a redhead. I didn't know redheads offered their wares for sampling... You make them out to be extremely needy.

                • 6 votes
                #5.18 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:34 PM EST

                Feisty... now saying those with freckles is racial profiling

                Silly - you could NOT get lucky in a whore house with a fist full of dollars!

                There are some things that money just can't buy darlin!

                Be gone - little troll you BORE me! ;o)

                • 5 votes
                #5.19 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:38 PM EST

                Ideology - it's not denial. Feisty and I don't hate each other. We spar... Never anything ugly... We made that agreement a while back. Although... I think she may have forgotten about it.

                When she or any other liberal says we bore them... it means they can't continue on. Probably because they have had a long day and are simply tired and can't think anymore.

                • 5 votes
                #5.20 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:40 PM EST

                Feisty - a fist full of dollars? Dear... it's 2011... a fist full of dollars won't buy a candy bar these days.

                • 3 votes
                #5.21 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:45 PM EST

                Glad to hear that BrianB ... the cold up here excitres the mind somewhat ... we have visions of you giving First Amendment Rights to Second Amendment Rights ... Guns are People to twist a Romney phrase.

                ... a lot of you are boring, but then there is JoJo ... where is that fetching wench?

                • 2 votes
                #5.22 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:50 PM EST

                Bob, Brian, and others..... aren't you used to feisty's 'faux anger' by now.... just to read her first post proves her agenda is merely to be a sh!t disturber rather than produce a relevant argument! lol

                The old gal reminds me of her mentor Alec Baldwin, who coincidentally got knocked off another airline because his ego refuses to accept the fact that he is not more important than the average joe! Too bad feisty wasn't there to protect him... she would have ripped the troublesome flight attendant's throat out!

                Give us a break carrot top.... spend more time at the zoo throwing rocks at the monkey's and less time here wasting our time!

                • 6 votes
                #5.23 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:25 PM EST

                Sorry to inform you Fiesty - I don't dig redheads. Every redhead I've come across either dyes their hair, or has too many freckles.

                Brian, you're probably not aware that carrot top wears red wings..... she can't remember what her original hair's color was, as there's nothing left. That's what happens if your wig is on too tight and too long! And that would explain why she is so mean spirited and contentious here at First Read!

                • 2 votes
                #5.24 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM EST
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                Well let's see now, if you were illegal in Mexico, there's no free food, medical, education, housing or jobs, no rights of a citizen and a year in jail if caught. Obama does not care about US citizens only Illegals.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:51 PM EST

                "this is the song that never ends ... it goes on and on my friends" Minds by Xerox.

                • 4 votes
                #6.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                “Every man is a king so long as he has someone to look down on.”
                ― Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here

                • 1 vote
                #6.2 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:19 PM EST
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                Eric Holder is just trying to get Obama re-elected by challenging states who are trying to protect themselves and their citizens against the influx of "illegals."

                What would Democrats do if they didn't allow the U.S. to be flooded with "illegals" because they are the future constituents of the Democrat Party.

                • 2 votes
                #7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:18 PM EST

                And in chimes Henny-Penny who continues to drop her cackle-berries anywhere & everywhere!

                There is something to be said for being able to form a coherent thought of YOUR OWN! ;o)

                Hey Leona, take your lips off of the Faux News organ and come up for air honey!

                • 6 votes
                #7.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:21 PM EST

                Sorry, peaches, that dog won't hunt. Illegals crossing the border at all time low. Find a new one.

                • 2 votes
                #7.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:22 PM EST

                Feisty,

                I don't watch Fox, not that you really care . The thing that gets you is that I have the real facts YOU DON'T LIKE, LOL. Read up and learn something Msnbc is not feeding you.

                "The problems that are directly connected to illegal immigration are costing more and more money each year because almost all of the illegal immigrants that successfully enter the country usually stay. The main ways their presence costs the United States and its citizens are the lack of taxes collected from them and their use of government programs that are intended for citizens. This is a cost of many billions of dollars that substantially affects the economy. Every year more illegal aliens enter the United States, and since most years there are more of them entering than from the year before, the problems presented are only getting worse."

                • 2 votes
                #7.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:49 PM EST

                Henney Penney. Your facts are just plain wrong. But that is what is so right about you. You are always wrong. Nice being that dependable.

                • 5 votes
                #7.4 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:53 PM EST

                Like I commented earlier Henny-Penny - darling YOU need more Chap-Stick! ;o)

                BTW - you had better start giving credit to the authors/souce of your4r bull@!$%# or YOU will be banned sweet-cheeks! ;o)

                • 4 votes
                #7.5 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:14 PM EST

                Feisty,

                I never worry.

                The truth always wins out and I am on the side of the truth.

                You're the one who has to be concerned because lies always come back to haunt the people who spew them.

                LOL

                • 3 votes
                #7.6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:18 PM EST

                The truth always wins out and I am on the side of the truth.

                Sweet dreams Babe!

                Just remember sooner or later your meds will wear off and YOU will have to face the TRUTH that OUR President was re-elected by a landslide...

                Now, by all means, continue to drop your little gems out of your ass! ;o)

                Nothing makes a better omelet than fresh cackle-berries!

                • 4 votes
                #7.7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:23 PM EST

                Feisty,

                your kids must be proud of you. (NOT)

                LOL

                • 3 votes
                #7.8 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:40 PM EST

                your kids must be proud of you

                In all actuality Henny-Penny - I am PROUD of my daughter!

                She would eat you & your bull@!$%# for lunch and stifle her burp babe! ;o)

                You may now resume dropping your little pearls of Fux Noise wisdom, with my permission!

                • 4 votes
                #7.9 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:42 PM EST

                Feisty,

                Sorry. I didn't know how strong that kool aid is today.

                Sober up.

                Tomorrow will be a better day if you choose "one day at a time."

                LOL

                • 3 votes
                #7.10 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:30 PM EST

                LOL

                  #7.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:30 PM EST

                  Feisty who I care for dearly never has understood the word illegal....especially when it comes to her IDOL Obama. She kneels and prays to Obama, he walks on water.

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.12 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 8:20 AM EST

                  Yes yes Leona while Democrats are doing what they can to improve things on their own Republicans sit on their hands and you applaud them. Good for you Leona not everyone can applaud nothing.

                  • 2 votes
                  #7.13 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 11:12 AM EST

                  Leona:

                  Sorry. I didn't know how strong that kool aid is today.

                  I always find it funny when social conservatives use the term "kool ade" considering that Jim Jones was so right wing and dominionist that he tried to start his own theocracy in the jungle. A better insult when one does not have anything substantative would be "smoking the opiate" since it would at least invoke an association with Marx (Karl, not Groucho).

                    #7.14 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:36 PM EST

                    I hope illegals do become future constituents of the Democratic party. Statistically, they are hard working and have good family values and a low divorce rate. Sound like good citizens to me. As a middle-class educated person, I have to compete against people from other countries, and when I am less qualified, I do not get the job. That is as American as it gets.

                    • 1 vote
                    #7.15 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:41 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Do you not sense an oxymoron Leona ... the most powerful nation in the world is the most fearful nation in the world. If you repeal the Patriot Act you will once again be the Land of the Brave.

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#8 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:24 PM EST

                    Feisty, I would be happy to have a conversation about illegal immigration.

                      Reply#9 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:25 PM EST

                      Thomas Perez...Hmmmm..That sound's familiar. Yeah! Her it is: Thomas E. Perez pretty well stated the obvious on Greg Abbott's repeated interference in the process. Everything stated was in fact true and valid, and Abbott should have consulted with those in the know on the proper proceedings in this matter. It seems like Abbott will stop at nothing to shut down any new representation by the minorities in Texas. But, this is exactly what happens in a one party state. Now, Alabama is a one party state, and their narrow-minded fringe wrote a low that will make it very easy to catch the police in stings.

                      "the assistant attorney general for civil rights wrote to 156 Alabama sheriff's offices and police departments, telling them that the federal government is monitoring how they enforce the part of the law that requires checking the immigration status of people who are stopped for questioning.

                      It is critical, says Thomas Perez, that local law agencies "ensure that your enforcement of this law does not result in unlawful stopping, questioning, searching, detaining, or arresting" in violation of the Constitution "or targeting of racial and ethnic minorities."

                      Let's see how this is going to fluff out.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#10 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:38 PM EST

                      You know what we should do? Let's use the same laws Mexico uses for immigrants.

                      Well let's see you can't buy a house. You can't own a company. You can lose your lease at anytime even if you pre pay. If you come across from the south border, the women and girls get raped,the men and boys get murdered. Yes America really treats the Illegals poorly....free healthcare,housing,schooling,food really f'n tough. Why is there a problem with having people come here legally and follow OUR CONSTITUTION?

                        #10.1 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 8:27 AM EST

                        America does not have free healthcare. That is why our infant mortality rate is the highest in the civilized world, but we lead the world in the number of breast implants. Unless the babies are dying of silicone poisoning????

                          #10.2 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:31 PM EST
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                          Pat Boston MA I thought them boys in the Nah'east was wicked smaht, but here I see that you listed where all this stimulus money went to Alabama--did it dawn on you that the departments that got the most cash were all human-services related? Think any of it went to thems that shouldn't gets? Nah..

                            Reply#11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:42 PM EST

                            How dare Alabamans enforce laws that Holder doesn't like! Maybe Alabama should give automatic rifles to the illegals. Then Holder would be happy. Jackass.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#12 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:28 AM EST

                            Obama doesn't lie, and Alabama has no legal right to enforce immigration laws that it, Alabama, pulls out of its a$$ whenever it jolly well pleases! Maybe Alabama should try working within the laws of the United States instead of instituting racist and anti american measures that depic America as a bunch ignorant of trailer trash rednecks with nothing better to do than shoot themselves in the foot, (and completely screw up their own agricutural industry in the process).

                            • 3 votes
                            #12.1 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:41 AM EST
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                            Why don't we make our immigration policy reasonable for the manual laborers that we need, as well as for the wealthy and well educated foreigners THAT WE DON"T NEED!. Its not reasonable to expect someone working these low paying jobs to spend upwards of $10,000 dollars and wait years to legally immigrate. Its no wonder they come here illegally and then game the system, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Instead of bringing them into the legal system and collecting our taxes and making sure they are contributing like the rest of us, our current policy encourages illegal behavior, slave labor, abridgement of human rights, deplorable working conditions, and an unfair burden on supports systems like hospitals, schools, and welfare agencies.

                            Bad immigration policy doesn't work and it creates its own set of problems, its time to change it.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#13 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:31 AM EST

                            Who's constitution if they're illegal. The country they come from. I got a speeding ticket here in Alabama last month and you guessed it the officer ask for my driver's license, but I am a natural born citizen of this country so I'm sure that was alright. Had I been illegal meaning I came here without a passport or visa and am a citizen of another country it would have been illegal to ask for my drivers license. Yea right barry try to enforce it here in Alabama, it seems you are on the side of those in this country who don't have a birth certificate, I wonder why. I love Christmas lights they remind me of democraps half of them don't work and the half that does is not very bright. Love you guys mean it, ABO 2012, lmao, "popcorn" ;)

                              #13.1 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 9:54 AM EST

                              Bob

                              If the person is driving it IS NOT ILLEGAL for an officer to ask for their drivers license. What the Alabama and Arizona law allows is for an officer to stop a person because he "suspects" that person may be an illegal. Big difference. Baring the presense of any other violation, the only practical way such a "stop" can originate is through racial profiling, and that's why the Alabama and Arizona laws are unconstitutional.

                                #13.2 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:21 PM EST
                                Reply

                                The letter in this article mentions unlawful stopping. A Honda employee was stopped in a license check, here in Alabama. The Japanese, Honda employee had some trouble because he had his passport, visa, and international driver license, but not his Japanese driver license. The police blocked traffic on a major road and checked papers of the people in every car. I guess it's legal though none had broken a law or otherwise done anything that would normally cause them to be stopped by police.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#14 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 10:06 AM EST

                                it is against the law to hire illegal imigrants. arrest the company owners, for they are the ones who are guilty, not the immigrant? if the law was followed, there would be no illegals and no jobs to entice them.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#15 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST

                                Do you go fishing? Have you ever caught every fish in the lake? I bet not. Same problem here. Its impossible to enforce.

                                  #15.1 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:24 PM EST
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                                  Did not this state secede from the U.S. to keep their cheap labor? Now they can't get rid of it soon enough.

                                  Gotta go, see Lynrd Skynrd coming, and they look mad. Neil Young, wait for me!

                                    Reply#16 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:26 PM EST

                                    “Every man is a king so long as he has someone to look down on.”
                                    ― Sinclair Lewis, It Can't Happen Here

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#17 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:21 PM EST
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