Gingrich tangles with Pelosi over ethics info

 

NEW YORK -- Newt Gingrich shot back at House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi today, after Pelosi threatened to reveal details of the ethics investigation into the former House Speaker almost 13 years ago.

“I want to thank Speaker Pelosi for what I regard as an early Christmas gift,” Gingrich said during a press conference at Manhattan’s Union League Club Monday afternoon.

“If she’s saying that she’s going to use material that she developed while she was on the ethics committee,” Gingrich added, “that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House, and I would hope that members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.”

The remark brought a quick response over Twitter from Nancy Pelosi’s staff.

“[Pelosi] was clearly referring to the extensive amount of information that is in the public record,” wrote her spokesman, Drew Hammill. 

The back-and-forth began earlier today when the left-leaning website Talking Points Memo published an interview with Pelosi, in which she said, “One of these days we’ll have a conversation about Newt Gingrich.”
 
The blog post was headlined, “Democrats Gleeful At Prospect of Running Against Gingrich.”

“I know a lot about him,” Pelosi told TPM.  “I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.”

The ethics investigation resulted in sanctions against Gingrich, and a fine.

Gingrich resigned as Speaker of the House in 1999. Pelosi later served as House Speaker, from 2007 until January, 2011.

The two appeared in a 2008 video encouraging action on global warming –- a move that has invited attacks from Gingrich’s opponents in the GOP field.

“We don’t always see eye-to-eye, do we Newt?” Pelosi said in the video.

“No,” Gingrich replied.

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Gingrich winning the nomination would be a Christmas gift to President Obama.

Go Newt, 2012. LOL!

  • 31 votes
#1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:00 PM EST

Tom ,Yreka

Gingrich winning the nomination would be a Christmas gift to President

You'd think with all this brilliance Newt would know that. Newt is not smart. Just because Newt memorized the dictionary does not make him smart.

Wrong move on the wrong woman.

Nancy Peloisi, the next Speaker of the House

Barack Hussein Obama will be re-elected


  • 33 votes
#1.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:12 PM EST

What's Newt afraid of?.....Public Record...Sanctions.......Fine..... details please!

...Newt, you better be careful.....Nancy ain't no Callista!

Go get him Speaker Pelosi!

  • 30 votes
#1.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:23 PM EST

Team Obama cheers on Newt


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Beat that azz, Nancy; beat Newt good!


  • 16 votes
#1.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:24 PM EST

Bev---Newt is exactly what the Republicans deserve, although I suspect Ging only wants to get rich.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:27 PM EST

Ahhh the modern liberal... it used to mean something special but is now nothing but a four letter word to many. They remind me of Christmas lights... liberals would prefer the term Holiday Lights... but I'm not politically correct or ever will be.

I love CHRISTMAS LIGHTS—they remind me of you liberals. You all hang together, half of you don't work, and the ones that do aren't that bright.

Reading your posts confirms this. But nice job on Cain boys!

I hope the 2012 election will be on a level playing field, if so we will see real hope and change!

  • 42 votes
#1.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:41 PM EST

Sorry my link did not open. This one does

Team Obama cheers on Newt

Beat that azz, Nancy; beat Newt good!

http://thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/whip.jpg?w=460&h=690

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:42 PM EST

Pelosi needs to take her ragged old butt home .......well i gues the repubs need to dig into her and her hubbys finacial dealings and publish all them and every time she took money for her district under false pretenses.

  • 22 votes
#1.7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:08 PM EST

What the liberals do NOT understand is ethic committee documents and all that's contained in them is privledged information. It appears as though Nancy Pelosi doesn't have any regard for those rules. Rules? What rules? She is threatening to break those rules and you liberals are cheering her on. What the hell is wrong with you liberals? Are you willing to do away with every thing sacred in this country just to hand over victory to your mesmorizing worshipful master?

If Obama is going to win, let him win on his own merits... don't break rules in order to just win for the sake of winning.

Liberals can hope. I'll take the change

  • 30 votes
#1.8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:19 PM EST

Brian B--- She very well knows that it's privileged information.

It just makes people wonder what that information is.

Kind of makes the mind wander and wonder.

Brilliant!!!

  • 16 votes
#1.9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:27 PM EST

First of all, what exactly were the charges against Newt? David Bonior brought 75 charges against Newt - and 74 of them were found to have NO MERIT WHATSOEVER. The last charge, whether Newt funded his college class "Renewing American Civilization" properly, was too complicated a tax issue for the committee to investigate on its own, so they brought in an outside tax expert to investigate. Two charges arose out of this investigation.

The first 'charge' from the ethics committee is that he "may have" violated tax law by using tax-deductible contributions from nonprofit organizations to teach an allegedly partisan college course.

The lectures never mentioned the words "Republicans" or "Democrats," and one entire session was spent praising FDR. Is that "partisan?" Not only has a former commissioner of the IRS come forward and said that no tax laws were violated, but an Ethics Committee lawyer even gave approval for the class before Newt started it.

The second 'charge' from the committee is that, in the course of the investigation, Newt provided false information to the committee. Do you know what this "false information" is

Newt testified that the above contributions were in fact made by those organizations to "Renewing American Civilization." He filed papers that stated the very same thing. This is never a fact that anyone was trying to hide. But one paper filed with the committee stated that those groups did not make the contributions. So is this a big deal? Is this "lying to Congress?"

What's funny is that the Ethics Committee itself approved the course Newt taught, the same course that started this whole "ethics violation" farce. Newt wasn't even paid for the course. I just find it odd that the Ethics Committee turned around and slammed Newt with a $300,000 penalty for something that they had approved!

In addition, if a reprimand was enough "punishment" for Barney Frank, who was charged by the same committee with fixing 30 parking tickets, and writing a misleading probation letter on behalf of child pornographer, cocaine dealer, male prostitute and lover Steven Gobie, why was Newt slammed with such a harsher penalty?

I'll tell you why... Because the democrats hate Newt. They fear him and will stop at nothing to bring him down. The republicans best chance to beat Obama is with Newt and they don't even recognize it.

  • 28 votes
#1.10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:31 PM EST

Brian B--- Maybe she knows that it's privileged information.

It just makes people wonder what that information is.

Kind of makes the mind wander and wonder.

Brilliant!!!

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:39 PM EST

It doesn't make me wonder in the least. Considering the source in which the blast came from, I don't have to wonder. The whole original ethics charges set against Newt were a scam from the beginning.

Funny thing is... hardly a single liberal knows what the charges were but yet they tout that Newt violated ethics rules like they have the entire story memorized. Silly libs... pounding the pavement in the hopes that Obama can score some points... only points scored are with the liberals voting for him anyway.

  • 23 votes
#1.12 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:53 PM EST
Comment author avatarGOPisextinctExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

You all hang together, half of you don't work, and the ones that do aren't that bright.

You regressives remind me of Christmas bells. Getting a bunch of you together makes a useless din, most of you don't work, your clappers get stuck, and you're a bunch of ding-a-lings.

  • 14 votes
#1.13 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:54 PM EST

@Brianb with the #'s"

Just out of curiosity, why do you care?

Your comment from a recent thread: If you don't think primaries are cooked, then don't think it. That's your choice. Personally I don't trust any of them. Republican or Democrat.

If you don't trust either party, why are you on these threads, other than to bash Obama and liberals? Why are you defending any of the candidates if the nominee is a foregone conclusion?

Again, just curious....

  • 15 votes
#1.14 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:55 PM EST

besides--Newt paid his way out of most of the ethics charges!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

  • 8 votes
#1.15 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:55 PM EST

Newt threatening someone who may or may not do something illegal or immoral is like the prison community writing laws for the rest of us. Newt! Good luck to you. Hope you are the nominee! I realize you are just a money grubbing narcisist but the Republicans haven't figured that out yet so I hope they keep donating to your campaign and wasting their energy and vote on you. You go Newt!

  • 10 votes
#1.16 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:02 PM EST

Hey, Brianb.

Thanks for providing the details on the ethics charge issue...and doing so so clearly. So many times, a talking point gets out there - it gets repeated enough that it "must be true," and no one bothers to do their own research to find the truth. (And the truth is usually somewhere in the middle).

Thanks again!

  • 14 votes
#1.17 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:08 PM EST

interesting newt or Nan If walls could talk If nan reveals anything she will be finished and the same goes for newt. Conspiracy at its finest

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:09 PM EST

Numb, I'm here for two reasons. One: I can't stand Obama for hurting the country I love so I will speak my mind against him to those that support him the most - liberals. Two: I just love reading the rantings of liberals that think they know it all but haven't a clue.

I don't care who gets the republican nomination. I don't have any skin in that game. All I care about is that someone will go up against Obama. My only fear is that the republican guard will make another stupid mistake like they did last time and put a weak candidate in like McCain.

Why do you care that I am here posting? I don't ask why you come here. If I am abrasive, take a look at your own queen bee. She's as vile as they come but you never say anything against her... you dare not or she will send you to the corn field.

  • 23 votes
#1.19 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:14 PM EST

Thank you for the kind words Candice. Unfortunately the libs won't read it because they don't want to know the truth. They are content in their own little half truth world. They feel much better about themselves if they continue on with the lies and slander they muster against the right.

  • 17 votes
#1.20 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:17 PM EST

George Hayduke (liked the book by the way)

One thing is certain about today's liberal.... they love to attack and smear (frequently w/o facts...) anyone opposed to this administration... but you will never, ever hear any of them defend Obama's record! Except to blame Bush for everything, lol

  • 21 votes
#1.21 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:18 PM EST

BenSnead

That is because your guys will not compromise for the better good of the country and continue to throw road blocks up every time Obama attempts to improve the job situation in the country. Your side defending the the top 1% tax breaks while saying NO to everything else is why we blame the right wing and will continue to blame them. It is your side who will not give any credit and it is your side who have made the left just about hate the Republicans for their greed and indifference to the plight of the working class. Sorry, but you earned it.

  • 14 votes
#1.22 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:33 PM EST
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Newtise - could NOT dance with Nancy on his very best day... there is something to be said about having TO right feet!

Sorry to report the rest of you loosers will have to dance with the ugly broad who brought you all to the dance! :o)))

  • 9 votes
#1.23 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:36 PM EST

Brian,

I don't know what you mean by the "queen bee." You will have to share the de-coder with me.

As I said, I was curious why you so ardently defend the Republican candidates when you admittedly think the game is rigged.

Carry on with the comments v. liberals and Obama--it's a free country, and I wouldn't dream of suggesting that you stop posting.

I find the rantings of some Conservatives to be extremely entertaining--you among them.

Once again--not that you care--I am not a liberal. I am independent; I have voted Republican in the past. I just don't care for the extreme right-ward swing of the Republican party, and I find this crop of candidates to be extremely unqualified for the Presidency (with the possible exception of Huntsman).

  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:39 PM EST

Fact if nan is going to go public about newt then they both will eat a lot of crow say what you will but truth will not lie. Dumb on nans part to say anything so I would guess this is an out reach from libs to dicredit newt, but mark my word this will only fall on the stupid to keep it going. The facts are out there but you must be smart enough to seek the truth.

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:45 PM EST

This article is about Newt Gingrich's record, which is one lacking morality, ethics, and integrity, already made public, but voters just need to be reminded as part of the vetting process -- You know the process by which we avoid electing the wrong person to the highest office in the land and leader of the free world.

And conservatives are in here bashing liberals because liberals are having a good laugh at their expense -- A sorry state conservatives have brought on themselves by demeaning government and belittling the office of the presidency, now with a circus full of clowns run by carnival barkers.

This is in part Newt Gingrich's fault since he was the Godfather of divisiveness and gridlock with threats to shut-down government. The extreme minority now known as the Tea Party has hijacked the Republican Party with establishment candidates being "primaried" from the far-right. Then with the GOP/TP together using blackmail and hostage-taking to take the entire country to the extreme Right. And so quickly they see the effects of anarchy on their own Party, the privatization of institutions and democracy as it were, in which their primary has become a for-profit sell out based on greed.

The front-runners, "if only I had a heart" Romney, "if only I had a brain" Perry, "if only I had a conscience" all bravado and no substance Gingrich, lead by the biggest Poser of all Donald Trump. What you want to bet Gingrich will do "product placement" with his latest book during Trump's latest gimmick while they both feed their egos?

Americans, take a look at the GOP/TP primary for a glimpse of their anarchist vision. No, shame on YOU Teapublicans for what you are doing to this nation, the embarrassment and debasement of all that our country has stood for. You deserve to be derided for your disgusting deeds, and thrown out for 20 years minimum.

  • 17 votes
#1.26 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:08 PM EST

Numb - There is only one queen bee on First Read... If you can't figure out who she is then you aren't paying attention. She has the same initials as First Read.

I have a very pessimistic view of politics today. The liberals are trying to change the Constitution through fiat... political correctness, redistrubution of wealth, attacking those that have more, supporting OWS, supporting abortion, creating a class of government dependent individuals, and supporting larger and more powerful government. The republicans are too stupid to take advantage of the democrats weaknesses. They don't know how to win thereby leaving us to the whims of the liberals... in otherwords they aren't defending freedom and they are lost in the dark with no means to find their way out.

Considering both parties, America is not moving forward. Now, how independent am I? If you claim to be independent, you lean to the left. I am strong right. I have no problem stating my position and if it's offensive to some, that's too bad... I am opinionated and not ashamed to admit it. On the other hand, I believe in freedom of speech and know it's a two way street.

The republican party is not swinging to the right. They are stuck in second gear. Their leadership is weak and they do not know how to approach the American people with ideas that work. They will lose in 2012 if they don't wake up and get smart.

  • 14 votes
#1.27 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:23 PM EST

Brianb-999431 I am in the same boat so I see no incumbent reelected

  • 3 votes
#1.28 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:35 PM EST

have to dance with the ugly broad who brought you all to the dance! :o)))

carrot top.... I don't usually visit truck stops... so couldn't accept your invitation. :))))))

My dates are independent, pretty, and smart.... maybe newdawn can go with you to that dance! And I'm pretty sure your version of 'ugly' would include anyone who doesn't drink your koolaid!

  • 12 votes
#1.29 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:45 PM EST

Brianb -- Everyone has an equal right to their opinions, but not everyone's opinion is equal. That's why we have "experts" who devote their lives to political analysis, economics, public policy, foreign policy, etc. Since the anti-intellectualism movement, conservatives no longer value expertise but prefer to be misinformed from chain Emails, and drop-outs, recovering addicts, and sexists on Hate Radio and FOX Noise.

Your posts illustrate right-wing misinformation, but worse than quality is the proliferate quantity of your posts. What say you give it a rest every now and then so space can be used for other people to express their views as well?

  • 15 votes
#1.30 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:57 PM EST

Who died and made you the arbitor of the boards patriot? You claim to have me on ignore so keep me there and you have nothing more to complain about.

All the crap you just posted about those of us on the right proves what an arrogant a$$ you are.

You are just another liberal that disagrees with what the right has to say and you want us to stop. You can stick that idea where the sun doesn't shine with a twist.

Your idea of debate is.... Brianb - stop posting. My, my, my, how elegant.

But then again, since I get all my ideas from drop-outs and recovering addicts, your insensitivity to those demographics really fails you as a liberal. After all, aren't liberals the ones that support drop-outs and recovering addicts? Where's your bleeding heart patriot?

Oh, I get it... your adjectives were meant to be a slam. You really don't hate drop-outs and recovering addicts... you only use them as examples to prove how superior your intellect is while on these boards... never engaging in debate because you don't know how, or have the intelligence to confront someone that challenges your thought processes. Well I can tell you, what you claim as thought, others claim as sleep.

  • 14 votes
#1.31 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:31 PM EST

BTW board boss truepatriot - I trust your experts about as much as I trust a rabid dog. He's an expert at being a dog, but his opinion is rather biased because of the rabies. Food for thought on your liberal experts.

  • 11 votes
#1.32 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:38 PM EST

dance with the ugly broad

carrot top, please tell us.... were you talking about your appearance or your personality here? I can vouch for your personality it is very ugly and mean spirited!

  • 10 votes
#1.33 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:37 AM EST

Sweet Jesus ! I thought Nancy was swept away when the swamp was drained? She is like that stubborn stain that you just cant get out of that old porcelin sink!

  • 4 votes
#1.34 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:16 AM EST

Beverly,

Beat that azz, Nancy; beat Newt good!

Jeez, what kind of kinky stuff are you into there, Beverly? :-)

I clicked on the link and almost snorted my coffee. Woke me up, that's for sure!

(Nancy should send it to Calista as a Xmas present. Keep that fat a** in line!)

  • 2 votes
#1.35 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:23 AM EST

BenSnead,

today's liberal.... you will never, ever hear any of them defend Obama's record

Not entirely true. We do defend his record when and where we agree with it. But this is what separates us from you. We're a much more eclectic bunch than you jokers on the Right Fringe. You march in lockstep. We argue with and disagree with our leaders and with each other. We promote democracy and free speech; you don't.

  • 8 votes
#1.36 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:31 AM EST

Jack Really? Well give us an assesment of the hcr act and the back door deals that were cut to get it through. I would love to hear an honest opinion of this supposed reform from the liberal perspective without the rose colored glassess. Cause Im self employed. My blue cross has just gone to 1500 per month. And Obama care has not even hit yet.

  • 4 votes
#1.37 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:41 AM EST

ssmike,

without the rose colored glassess

I've said before on these posts, and I'll say it again. The only way to contain health care costs is through a single payer system. So long as the health insurance industry is a for-profit system, costs will continue to steeply rise. There is absolutely no incentive for private corporations to reduce their profits.

I disagree vehemently with the legislation passed by Congress. Many said it was a "first step". I thought it was flawed from the start.

I spent a couple of years living in Canada (once in the mid-70's and then again in the late 90's) and I will tell you this: if you could superimpose their health care system intact on the U.S. today, and could keep it there on a trial basis for four years, 80% of the people in this country would never want to go back to the current system. Twice I had sports-related injuries, and both times I received excellent, immediate medical attention at virtually no cost out of my pocket. Obviously, society is paying for those costs, but my point is that if you go into an emergency room in this country some of the trauma you will be experiencing is the fear of how much it's going to cost--even if you have a good health insurance policy. (Members of Congress don't experience that fear if they have to go to the emergency room, do they?)

I've had other experiences in other countries, with the same result.

The fact that you're paying $1,500 a month for health insurance is just plain criminal. And if you don't get it, then you're part of the problem.

  • 6 votes
#1.38 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:05 AM EST

It's fun to see so many fools acting as if Pelosi has any future as speaker again. This is the same Pelosi that just got DESTROYED in the midterms right? The same pelosi of "we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it?". The same troll who has provided more Obamacare waivers for businesses in HER OWN district (San Francisco) than any other city in America, when she essentially was the architecht of Obamacare? Wow. Just, wow. Pelosi's and the dems hypocrisy knows no bounds, and its fun to watch. Carry on...

  • 1 vote
#1.39 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:26 AM EST

The most disturbing part of that was the reminder that our national so-called leaders use Twitter.

    #1.40 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:41 AM EST

    The most disturbing thing about this article is that it reveals Obama and his minions are planning more personal attacks because their RECORD OF HANDLING THE ECONOMY is so dismal. The mudslinging is all planned and that is why Obama has been building his $1 billion war chest.

    Nancy Pelosi is a scatter-brain who apparently never made the cut as a high school cheerleader. Her famous line of "you'll have to pass the bill to see what's in it" will go down in history as one of the most ludicrous political comments of all time.

    By the way, whatever happened to the Maxine Waters investigation of unethical conduct involving the financial bailout of a bank her husband was connected with ? Has that been swept under the rug ??

    • 3 votes
    #1.41 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:47 AM EST

    TO: George Hayduke Sr who wrote:

    "... liberals ... half of you don't work, and the ones that do aren't that bright."

    Lying sack of crap.

    This, coming from the party of welfare queens (Michelle Bachmann), scam artists, crooks, frauds, liars and thieves (Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, etc.).

    Disgraceful!

    • 5 votes
    #1.42 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:58 AM EST

    "American" girl, how selective your partisan, driveling noggin is...

    Umm...speaking of lying sacs of crap...remember Bill Clinton, ya know, lying on national tv to millions of Americans about not using the most powerful office in the world to "do things with cigars and dresses" with a young 23 year old intern? Hmm, and Hillary actually stayed with him, talk about disgraceful. How about John Edwards, ya know, he lied about his love child for over a year until he finally had to admit it was his? How would you like to be THAT child growing up? How about Charlie Rangel, thief? How about John Kerry? Tax cheat. Tim Geithner? tax cheat. Most of Obama's appointees? All white collar criminals. DISGRACEFUL! LOL!!

    • 3 votes
    #1.43 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:27 PM EST

    Brianb-999431

    BTW board boss truepatriot - I trust your experts about as much as I trust a rabid dog. He's an expert at being a dog, but his opinion is rather biased because of the rabies. Food for thought on your liberal experts.

    Thanks for proving my case that conservatives don't trust experts--apparently they are all liberal (William F. Buckley, Ben Stein, etc.?)--but think a chain Email from an unknown source is the carved-in-stone truth. If you weren't so anti-intellectualism you'd know what a credible source is, and you'd know what research and empirical methodology is, and you'd know what formal logic and debate is. You'd know how to discern the garbage from fact.

    Add to that your trust of Big Business over your own government in which you have a say via election, or trust of conspiracy theories over mainstream news, and snake oil salesmen over the FDA, wanting to end Federal standards for education so you can teach intelligent design or creationism, and on and on. The dumbing down of America, with the help of FOX Noise and Hate Radio is why our country is going down the toilet.

    The GOP/TP primary is the canary in the mine that should be a warning to all what extremism like the Tea Party, most of all the religious radicals, will do to our nation if they are allowed to destroy our constitutional democracy with machinations -- Like blackmail and hostage-taking in our congress, governors who behave like dictators, "strategery" for gerrymandering and voter suppression -- It is treasonous.

    So run along little Brianb, because most FR members know you are an ill-informed troll and your posts only reaffirm how crazy the right-wing has become.

    • 2 votes
    #1.44 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:13 PM EST

    George Hayduke-- please get rid of that avatar. Jerry should not have to sit in the same place with your worthless rhetoric.

    • 1 vote
    #1.45 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:52 PM EST

    TruePatriot,

    No, you are severely mistaken, it would seem. Your post excoriates another poster for lack of trust when it comes to sources, yet you yourself supply absolutely nothing in return, thus making you a hypocrite, which is very typical and rather consistent when arguing with liberals. You also advocate trusting our government, which is quite telling. You see, our founding fathers realized that any government, even our own, would be subject to the pitfalls of power and money, eventually. That is why they created documents such as the constitution and the bill of rights, so that we are forever PROTECTED FROM OUR government. It would seem that you might have missed this glaring point in all of your empirical methodology classes, unfortunately. You also advocate the mainstream news as a good outlet for news, when really, there have been numerous empirically-based studies conducted on the left-leaning ideology of nearly every "mainstream" news outlet. From Fox, to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and so on...they ALL have an agenda...ALL of their news will be slanted.

    You speak of voter suppresion? How about black panthers intimidating voters in Philly in 2008 presidential elections, of which DOJ and Eric Holder HAVE NOT PROSECUTED. Hmmm, can you imagine if two KKK members dressed in full garb stood outside a voter polling station in Alabama and carried clubs with them to intimidate black voters? There would be outrage, and arrests and charges. Yet, none of this happened under a Democrat-led DOJ. HMMMM.. how hypocritical of you.

    You speak of federal standards of education?? Are you kidding us? Since the 1970s, taxpayers have been forced to give TRILLIONS of dollars in funds to educate our children, and test scores and grad rates have not improved in 30 years!! But sure, keep advocating for the same ol, because it'll keep your union coffers full of taxpayer dollars while people like you and Obama reward those who are on their side with jobs and other perks...

    Blackmail and hostage taking?? Really? You are insanse. You see, "truepatriot" your boys had a SUPERMAJORITY FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY NEVER PASSED A SINGLE BUDGET!!!!!!!!!! Quit whining. Quit playing that game. We watched for TWO YEARS, and THE DEMS DID NOTHING but pass a healthcare bill that will probably be struck down by the Supreme Court. Good job guys. Don't waste our time on your pseudo-intellectual counter-intuitive posts. And the tea party is for fiscal responsiblity, and nothing else. You and the libs desperately try to paint it as something that it is not, when you should be paying more attention to your liberal loser hippies occupying parks, pooping in the street, doing drugs, having sex, assaulting cops, raping women, and screaming incoherent demands and crying about what they don't have...

    Carry on with your false liberal tripe...

      #1.46 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:54 PM EST

      yes, there were two blacks hired by the management company of the building that housed the voting, that and nothing more, unless you trust Faux News not to report the entire story or take appearances out of context. Two people in one polling place, doing their job. LOL.

        #1.47 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 6:10 PM EST

        Bob,

        What are you talking about? If I am to read your rather confusing post correctly, I am to assume that you think that the two black men in black panther garb wielding billy-clubs outside of a voter polling station in Philly were just two "employees.?" REALLY???? Have you not watched the VIDEO that went viral right after this happened? You don't know that both men are and ADMITTED to being members of the black panther party??? Really? I guess you only get the right info on "Faux News" huh? Ever seen the video of, I believe his last name was Shabazz, one of the men standing outside the voter polling station? The video in which he advocates killing white babies and such? Really? But its totally okay with you for men like that to be outside voter polling stations, with billy-clubs in their hands, intimidating voters?? And you accuse Fox of making this up??? You are a crazy liberal parrot, Bob. You represent what is wrong with America, Bob. You have no idea what you are talking about in this issue, yet you blindly accuse Fox of somehow fabricating this story. YOU FAIL. Carry on and continue to be blind, your pathetic liberal party needs you...

          #1.48 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:44 PM EST

          The most glaringly absent portion of brianb's post is that poor maligned newt wasn't REALLY an ethically challenged fool,...

          He just paid the $300,000 as a bribe to make the whole sordid affair 'disappear'. And pssst,...don't let anyone know that it was a PLEA deal to DROP the other 74 charges,....that's a bargain at just over $4,000 a charge, eh?

          You gotta' love you some Republican math/logic. It would be criminal, right? if it weren't so laughable.

          • 2 votes
          #1.49 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:18 PM EST

          Are you talking about the fair and balanced report THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY NANCY PELOSI????? LOL. Sure, we can all bet that was a fair "investigation." The 74 "other" charges just shows this was all a bunch of trumped up BS. We both know that if ol "we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it" Pelosi had anything that would have stuck, she would have made sure Gingrich was fully charged. LOL!! Talk about laughable. Too bad former Democratic Presidential frontrunner John Edwards can't just make "the whole sordid affair disappear" eh? LOL.

          And I like Democrat logic/math more. Ya know, the same people that keep telling us that all the numbers are improving, yet more and more jobs are lost every day and the CBO just announced today that unemployment is certain to go over 9% again next year. THANKS DEMS!

            #1.50 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:27 PM EST
            Reply

            Newt is a total scam artist ...its all public record ! I also know America doesn't want his latest conquest as their first lady !

            • 18 votes
            Reply#2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:09 PM EST

            If anyone knows about Rules of the House, it'll be Newt, because he broke'em All the time.

            Mr. shutdown the Government Ginrich!

            Occupy SoggyBottom!

            • 17 votes
            #2.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:49 PM EST

            Explain yourself Rick in Ky... what rules did Newt violate? Do tell! If you make the claim back it up. Bet you run away and won't answer.

            • 16 votes
            #2.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:39 PM EST

            The House voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reprimand House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and order him to pay an unprecedented $300,000 penalty, the first time in the House's 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing.

            The ethics case and its resolution leave Gingrich with little leeway for future personal controversies, House Republicans said. Exactly one month before yesterday's vote, Gingrich admitted that he brought discredit to the House and broke its rules by failing to ensure that financing for two projects would not violate federal tax law and by giving the House ethics committee false information.

            "Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). "If [the voters] see more of that, they will question our judgment."

            House Democrats are likely to continue to press other ethics charges against Gingrich and the Internal Revenue Service is looking into matters related to the case that came to an end yesterday.

            The 395 to 28 vote closes a tumultuous chapter....

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/012297.htm

            • 14 votes
            #2.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:36 PM EST

            Dangerfield... that is not the answer. A copy and paste of what happened is not telling anyone what the exact ethics violations were. Try again.

            • 12 votes
            #2.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:48 PM EST

            Files in Gingrich Case Detail Misstatements

            By Charles R. Babcock and John E. Yang
            Washington Post Staff Writers
            Sunday, January 19 1997; Page A01

            In his final opportunity to defend his client Friday night before the House ethics committee, an attorney for Newt Gingrich conceded that the speaker had made "glaringly inconsistent" statements to the panel's investigative subcommittee about a politically oriented college course financed with tax-exempt funds.

            The concession was among the most dramatic of any Gingrich representative. The speaker in December admitted to having provided inaccurate information to the ethics panel. The full ethics committee on Friday voted 7 to 1, just two hours after the comments by Gingrich attorney J. Randolph Evans, to recommend a $300,000 penalty and a formal reprimand of the Georgia Republican, concluding a week of partisan wrangling that convulsed the Capitol. The committee vote is likely to be followed by approval of the sanctions by the full House when it votes on the recommendation Tuesday

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/011997.htm

            Providing the actual news articles isn't cut and paste. Not answering whatever your point might be here.

            • 15 votes
            #2.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:49 PM EST

            Thanks, Dangerfield. Do they still believe we are just bluffing or playing games?

            Any more questions from the right?

            What the rwnj's are not addressing is that here is a guy who resigned for ethics violations and breaking the rules THREATENING someone else about "breaking the rules that he had no qualms about violating.... typical Republican double standards again.

            • 9 votes
            #2.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:53 PM EST

            WE?

            You're mistaking me for a partisan...The facts of the Gingrich case are the facts. He was sanctioned by both parties. I don't have a dog in this fight, as I believe that they (Presidential contenders)all, The President included, have more than their share of fleas....

            I dare all to read this profile by his wife of 18 years...

            She says she should have seen the red flags. "He asked me to marry him way too early. And he wasn't divorced yet. I should have known there was a problem."

            Within weeks or months?

            "Within weeks."

            That's flattering.

            She looks skeptical. "It's not so much a compliment to me. It tells you a little bit about him."

            And he did the same thing to her eighteen years later, with Callista Bisek, the young congressional aide who became his third wife. "I know. I asked him. He'd already asked her to marry him before he asked me for a divorce. Before he even asked."

            He told you that?

            "Yeah, he wanted to — "

            Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/newt-gingrich-0910#ixzz1fihQCUH3

            • 7 votes
            #2.7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:00 PM EST

            Dangerfield... How come you didn't mention the other 74 charges that were brought against him that had NO MERIT and were dropped because they had NO MERIT? The one charge that stuck was a conflict in the paperwork Newt submitted to the ethics committee that misstated who the donors were for the course he taught that he didn't even get paid for. The paperwork was submitted to the same ethics committee that approved the course. All this ethics crap over a form that was submitted in error.

            See how easy that was? A full explanation in a single paragraph. I didn't need to go and search out two old newspaper articles that didn't explain what the ethics violation was... it only explained what happened.

            The point being - knowing about the actual violation is not the same as knowing what happened and how it ended up. The violation was bogus as were the other 74 brought against him. Gingrich did the honorable thing to bring it to an end because it was tearing up Washington at the time. He conceeded to pay the money for the good of the government.

            And all you liberals can do is stand around and call him a crook... because you don't like his personal morays about his spouse. Shall I even mention Bill Clinton?

            • 12 votes
            #2.8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:42 PM EST

            Try to read my posts, which are merely the ACTUAL reporting of the Gingrich case and your, uh what exactly, rebuttal? of the news?

            I don't really know what you're arguing. news articles speak for themselves and don't require spin, That he was not found culpable of every charge is not the point, but that he was found to be guilty of even one. He took his medicine and paid his fine.

            You clearly hate those liberals but I ain't one and your inability to discern that from my posts on this very thread is indicative of something.

            Newton is fascinating in his way but as likely to be the nominee as Millard Fillmore, so this stuff is academic anyway. Ron Paul, "Shocks" (the media, anyway) by taking the Iowa caucus.

            Mitt Romney wins New Hampshire

            Someone else, maybe Newt in SC

            But ultimately it's Mitt on that stage making his acceptance speech...

            • 8 votes
            #2.9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:13 PM EST

            Ethics sanctions--Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Speaker Gingrich during his term, including claiming tax-exempt status for a college course run for political purposes. Following an investigation by theHouse Ethics Committee Gingrich was sanctioned US$300,000.[65] Gingrich acknowledged in January 1997 that "In my name and over my signature, inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee"

            His own party did not like him & thinking back to that time I agree with them!!

            Leadership challenge

            In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Gingrich's public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority WhipTom DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the attempted coup.[72]

            Yes I trust this man... NOT!!!!

            For-profit companies

            After leaving Congress in 1999, Gingrich started a number of for-profit companies:[93] Between 2001 and 2010, the companies he and his wife owned in full or part had revenues of almost $100 million.[94]

            According to financial disclosure forms released in July 2011, Gingrich and his wife had a net worth of at least $6.7 million in 2010, compared to a maximum net worth of $2.4 million in 2006. Most of the increase in his net worth was because of payments to him from his for-profit companies.[95]

            Just thought I would post a few details of course anyone can google this!

            • 5 votes
            #2.10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:50 PM EST

            Funny thing is if you vote for newt you vote for nan. Pretty much says it all It sounds like Nan is willing to retire if newt gets the nod. I will not stay here if either stay around. The two Ns are the same sorry this comes from the deep right.

              #2.11 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:12 AM EST

              Speaker Pelosi got him to admit there is more dirt being shielded from the American people and voters..She kneecapped him and he fell right into it!

              With 2 thousand pages of his ethics violations on record ,, the stuff must be good because newt was so fast to threaten her ! What panty waste newt is...

              Would someone get A. Mitchell out of israel..we have enough coverage of obstinacy and obstruction in the USA right wing plutocrat republicans without being barraged with the 1%ers in that country....

                #2.12 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:15 PM EST

                I just don't understand why an innocent man pays $300,000 to 'drop' the other 74 charges,...?

                Hmmm,...

                  #2.13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:22 PM EST
                  Reply

                  Pelosi and ethics? A contradiction.... hasn't she made millions on insider trading as 60 Minutes revealed? Most Americans believe Gingrich would make a far better president than Obama ever could... unfortunately for him, the liberal smear team, fresh off the Cain killing, is now gearing up a list of ladies and lies to derail Gingrich. Politics has taken a very dirty turn under the Obama administration....

                  • 27 votes
                  #3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:13 PM EST

                  miked, thankfully FR doesn't have much influence with the public, but they are way ahead of the curve with the liberal half truth and innuendo attack... they still are gloating over their victory with Herman Cain. What does their KKK leader carrot top call him.... 'hermie'! Very insulting, no matter what side of the fence you are on....

                  I like Newt a lot... and will support anyone who faces the anointed one. We don't need 4 more years of a laid back, community organizer who doesn't represent anyone but Goldman Sachs and George Soros. Obama can talk about protecting the middle class all day, but he doesn't represent them at all!

                  • 18 votes
                  #3.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:26 PM EST

                  Miked - Most American's? He doesn't have but 20 some percent of the Republican vote....I knew the GOP wasn't good at math but this is plain silly.

                  And I just love "Nancy had better not tell". Newt, just what did they find out that you wouldn't want out....

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:44 PM EST

                  I don't think we sould be pounding our chest, granted Newt is a scum bag but he is CLEARLY right. Nancy should keep her BIG STUPID MOUTH shut. She has done us NO favors! Go sit in the corner Nancy we need to win an election in 2012 we can't afford to be losing anymore seats to the GOP

                  Hillary 2012

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:13 PM EST

                  Seldom Seen Sam Colorado

                  miked, thankfully FR doesn't have much influence with the public, but they are way ahead of the curve with the liberal half truth and innuendo attack... they still are gloating over their victory with Herman Cain. What does their KKK leader carrot top call him.... 'hermie!

                  VIDEO: Sarah Palin calls Herman Cain “Herb”… repeatedly

                  http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/09/28/video-sarah-palin-calls-herman-cain-herb-repeatedly/

                  Sounds repeatedly racist to me. So tell me does your 3 prone hat have tea bags all over them. Or do you attach the tea bags to your tail?

                  • 8 votes
                  #3.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:14 PM EST

                  Hillary 2012

                  Oh gawd another hopeless PUMA

                  • 8 votes
                  #3.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:37 PM EST

                  No kidding, Beverly. Do they not believe Mrs. Clinton when she says she has no interest in running?

                  Has anyone ever noticed that Newtoid likes the word "fundamental". For example," it is fundamental that Newtie is one of the biggest crooks Washington DC has ever seen."

                  • 12 votes
                  #3.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:43 PM EST

                  Listen folks - anything said against Obama is racist to Beverly in Chicago. You could say that you don't agree with his policy on candyland and she'd find some way to call you a racist. She's been doing it now ever since she came to these boards.

                  • 15 votes
                  #3.7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:46 PM EST

                  @Beverly and newday

                  The GOP/TP field is fundamentally flawed. The key part is "mental"

                  • 13 votes
                  #3.8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:50 PM EST

                  brianb: don't let us keep you if you prefer not to be here. We will get along quite nicely. You do not offer cogent thought anyway.

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:57 PM EST

                  Phenolphthalein- Maybe you can explain to the liberals what were the ethic violations Newt was accused of. Maybe you can't... and if not, my nickname for you is a perfect fit. There are two uses for Phenolphthalein.... yours is the second.

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:00 PM EST

                  Bev.... many of Herman Cain's friends call him Herb! Are you totally in the dark?

                  Wow!

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.11 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:02 PM EST

                  Ahhh newday... one of the libs that can't stand freedom of speech. How many of my posts have you tried to collapse lately newday? All of them? Just as I thought. Now you are inviting me to leave? I have two words for you...

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.12 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:03 PM EST

                  Brianb with numbers:

                  Congrats!

                  You did a fine job of spelling the big word you used. Did you have to check the dictionary first just to be sure? (It might be embarrasing when you don't know get the name right.)

                  I direct you to my post, #1.14. Feel free to answer or not.

                  It doesn't really matter--newday is right: "no cogent thought."

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.13 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:17 PM EST

                  Ahhh.

                  Good ol' Brianb whose avatar is a phallic symbol.

                  Feeling inadequate dude?

                  Sorry to hear it.

                  • 11 votes
                  #3.14 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:32 PM EST

                  Hey numb are you slow on the draw tonight? Answered and checkmate.

                  • 13 votes
                  #3.15 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:36 PM EST

                  BTW numb - I'll bet you crosschecked my spelling with a spell checker... how anal of you.

                  • 12 votes
                  #3.16 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:37 PM EST

                  Good ole GOP - says I'm on ignore... simply to avoid any conflict. Go ahead GOP, tell them why you put me on ignore... I remember the night very well. You were arguing a very insignificant point with me about Bush, you didn't like what my replys were because they left you in the dust... the next thing I know is you make the claim that you put me on ignore. Wow! Talk about running away with your tail tucked between your legs. Now I'm a bully because you can't match words with me... the great thing is... now that you have me on ignore, you can't take me off so I can talk behind your back all I like. Seems the joke is on you... many times over.

                  Actually, talking behind your back would be rather stupid... it's much easier to avoid you all together.

                  • 12 votes
                  #3.17 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:43 PM EST

                  Well Brian, timing is everything, or may be nothing.

                  I was posting to one comment, you were posting to the other, and so forth--kind of humorous actually.

                  "Checkmate?" Only in your mind.

                  No, I didn't check the spelling--I figured you did due diligence in that regard (this time).

                  • 7 votes
                  #3.18 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:53 PM EST

                  Outrageous, unsupportable slander from the right, meet angry, ad hominem attack from the left...Political discourse at it's finest!...
                  The cartoonish caricatures of the opposition that constitute many of the opinions expressed here seem to indicate a deeper underlying need to lash out at someone, anyone to vent pent up feelings of helplessness and frustration in their daily and or political lives.

                  Assigning blame is for losers. Adults find common ground, common self-interest and are results oriented. Griping, finger pointing and demonizing the opposition is political masturbation, the teenagers' philosophical lament that "If EVERYONE thought like ME the world would be a better place"...

                  If there is a path to a better, more equitable economic and political future, it isn't being taken by many in our hyper-polarized body-politic, the collective media and/or the most prolific posters on this blog. Imagine the country as a two-person kayak, going in an endless circle because the two idiots in the boat can't seem to row TOGETHER, so neither one ever gets ANYWHERE...

                  • 7 votes
                  #3.19 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:06 PM EST

                  Well, didn't this thread take a nasty turn! Of course when they are about Newtie, and our little friend Brianb becomes involved, that is almost guaranteed to happen.

                  Brianb wishes to pretend that Newtoid is not one of the most ethically challenged people to walk the earth, and it could be that poor brian is unable to recognize that. One must have ethics oneself in order to know when someone else does not.

                  But there is one other peccadillo that we have not mentioned about Newtie. We have talked about his inability to keep his pants zipped and the House Ethics fine he paid. But there is also the House banking scandal. Starring brianb's hero Newtie.

                  Good, Brian, you really know how to pick them.

                  • 8 votes
                  #3.20 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:49 PM EST

                  OK numb - truce. I agree with the humorous part. Checkmate is a state of the board not of the mind. I take back the anal part since you said you didn't check the spelling.

                  I'll bet you'd be surprised as to how many of the same opinions you and I share... although we express them in different ways.

                  • 6 votes
                  #3.21 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:59 PM EST

                  newday - I'll take one Newt over 10 Obama's any day of the week. At least Newt doesn't hate this country, would not ever presume to override the Constitution, or declare hope and change without defining change.

                  Newt agreed to pay the fine in order to end the turmoil that arose because David Bonior brought 75 ethics charges against Newt and 74 of them had NO MERIT. The one that stuck was also bogus because it was a mistake in paperwork.

                  As far as the house banking scandal goes, we shall see how that shakes out when it becomes the next stepping stone to trash Newt.

                  I know how to pick them? You should talk... you support the muslim in chief. Don't believe it? What book was used to swear Obama in when he took the oath for his Senate seat? It will be a nice project for you to work on.

                  • 7 votes
                  #3.22 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:10 PM EST

                  All of you read this last post from little brian. Now he is simply making things up as the right wing neanderthals do when they are in a panic.

                  The GOP leadership will not tolerate Newtie being their candidate. Pelosi is not going to have to say a word about Newtie, Republicans who served with him will do that for her.

                  Just wait, there will be plenty coming, from the right not the left. My favorite memory of Newtoid? The tantrum he had when he had to get off the back of the President's plane. Even then, he thought he was more important then he was.

                  Just like our little friend brian.

                  • 10 votes
                  #3.23 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:30 PM EST

                  Brian,

                  Just checked back in, to see what condition my condition was in.

                  I gave you a vote for your last post to me.

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.24 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:33 PM EST

                  Oh, I forgot to answer little Brian's question, and I am sure that he is drooling with anxiety over it.

                  The answer, brian, is the Bible. The President took the oath of office when he was sworn in as Senator on his personal Bible.

                  And before you challenge me on that, have a care, and think well on that challenge.

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.25 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:35 PM EST

                  Seldom seen..... don't forget our president saying "A white mans greed runs a world in need"... He represents blacks... and the unions, and that's about it. Can you imagine a Republican having said something that racist on his record, and running for President??? ABC, CBS, and MSLSD would still be writing articles about it...

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.26 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:18 AM EST

                  @Beverly,

                  You brought up the KKK? Really? You do know that democrats essentially started the KKK right? You do know that in the early 1900s, there were over 40 Democrat seats in congress that were also held by men in the KKK, right? You do know that it was DEMOCRATS who filibustered and attempted to beat the 1964 Civil Rights Act, right, mainly Al Gore Sr??? You do know that your own party elected for DECADES Robert Byrd, a man who was an exalted cyclops in the KKK right? Here is what Byrd said, back then in regards to fighting with blacks in WWII. "I would rather see old glory trampled a thousand times over than fight side by side with this mongrel race." Yep, good stuff, Beverly, keep talking about things you know nothing about...it's fun to watch.

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.27 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:45 AM EST

                  Roanoke1

                  For the hundreth time:

                  All those who called themselves Dems in the racist South back in the day are now called right wingers. For the hundreth time: Robert Byrd was a racist KKK member who was anti black. He then had a change of heart for what ever reason and became a pro civil rights, pro helping the poor, good Democrat until the day he died. The racists still exist but not so much in the Democratic Party today.

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.28 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:31 PM EST

                  Jennifer,

                  Your post is complete trash. It is devoid of any fact or objectivity. You obviously know nothing about what you are talking about. Your comment "All those who called themselves Dems in the racist South back in the day are now called right wingers" shows this. You libs love to just attach a blanket statement like that to the entire GOP when you can't back ANY of this up with fact. NONE. When did this massive exodus of all the racist Dems to the GOP occur?? It would have been AFTER 1964 right, since MOST dems voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Bill. The Democrat Party is obviously racist, which is why they continually like to keep minorities in lock-step with them by giving them entitlements. Democrats have created an environment where many minorities are completely dependent on the government for their existence. Notice how none of the Dems entitlement programs have correlated into minorities getting out of poverty over the last 40 years, right? That's because the Dems WANT them to stay poor, so they can create more government programs to GIVE minorities, thus getting their vote for generations to come. It is sick and twisted, but hey, that's just life for a typical dem....

                    #3.29 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:31 PM EST

                    And you Roanake1 are just sooo open minded. I am old enough to have lived through the civil rights years and know first hand what happened. You could care less about the "poor" so save your name calling for someone who actually respects your point of view.

                      #3.30 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:34 PM EST

                      Ahh Jennifer,

                      A little fact and objectivity got you all riled up, huh? Never fails with libs. You know nothing about me, only what you assume because I simply feel that giving a hand up to the poor is so much better than giving a hand-out. Plus, I also believe in personal accountablility and being held responsible for the choices one makes in life. Oh no, the horror!! Our choices matter!! What an awful thing for me to say. Bottom line, I don't feel that I owe anyone a living, nor does anyone owe me a living. Poor is just a name liberals use to whine about getting more taxdollars from citizens who actually pay taxes...The word 'poor' in American is grossly overused by the left. Show me pictures of starving kids in America, please. Jennifer, I am waiting for the stories and pictures about poor starving kids in America...Where are they??? Can't find those stories? What, no pictures of poor starving kids in America? Yep, just like I thought...

                        #3.31 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:10 PM EST

                        Whatever Roanke1- You basically have nothing to offer the working class and you are not an honest broker, in my view. I can only imagine what you would be doing if you lost what ever you have been able to hoard in your narrow little life. The voters will decide soon enough and I will stick with my beliefs, you can stuff yours.

                          #3.32 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:14 PM EST

                          Jennifer,

                          again, you know nothing about me. I grew up in the hardscrabble coal-filled mountains of southwest VA. My parents worked hard, blue collar jobs for decades to provide my family with a roof and food to eat. I did not grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth. I have put myself through school, of which I am in debt thousands of dollars, and I work hard all week long at a local community college, paying off my debt, my own insurance, my own rent, and all my own bills. I am not rich, and I am not a broker. I barely make it from paycheck to paycheck. I just knew what I wanted to do, I realized it would involve debt by going to college, but I was willing to take on that debt since I felt it would give me more opportunities in this world. I have hoarded nothing, as you so wrongly presume. Just because someone disagrees with you Jennifer, does not mean they are rich. Just because someone disagrees with how you see this country Jennifer, does not mean that they have acquired what they have in life off the backs of the poor. Stop with that liberal mantra. Pull up your big-girl pants, and go work for what you want, instead of telling hardworking Americans that they owe you a living...

                            #3.33 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:14 PM EST

                            Roanoke1

                            Why do you continue to presume that I have been on the dole or taken welfare or what ever it is you think? I have always worked and paid my way. My husband and I are from middle class families and we have never been on welfare or food stamps or what ever the right thinks the Dems are all on. I think it is just a little too convenient for you on the right to keep saying that the left is demanding a free ride. We work, we pay our taxes and and we believe in the country prospering but not prospering while stealing from anyone else. We want to see all of our citizens prosper. You don't like it when someone calls you on your nastiness, you get all about how you have worked your way up from nothing. Well allot of people who still care about their fellow citizens and the future of the young have done the same as you. It is you Roanke1 who keeps calling me names and inferring I have not worked to earn what I have received. My husband and I are retired now and we are surviving just fine. We are not rich but we have enough and more importantly we never have stepped on anyone to get ahead. My agument with the right is that our youth are not going to have what most in my generation were lucky enough to have because the country was all about expanding our horizions, educationg our kids and leading the world. One could afford to get through college and had a decent job to go to. The fall from grace the country is going through now is due to greed and mismanagement of our country's resources, in my view and I will not accept the greedy taking from working class any longer.

                            You can be for pulling oneself from one's bootstraps but you need to understand that you and I had an easier time in years past due to the forward and progressive thinking of our leaders. I really do not believe that you really believe that those who answer to Norquist care about the working class or anything but their own greedy ends. The nation needs to recapture our soul and take care of the old and education our young and build for the future. Norquist and his ilk can crawl back under the rock they came out from. The country needs to turn inward and heal. The wealthy cannot have everything because the country belongs to all of us.

                              #3.34 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 6:44 PM EST
                              Reply

                              miked,

                              Your hyperbole is showing. "Most Americans believe Gingrich would make a far better president..." First, Gingrich needs to get some votes from his own party, them get the nomination. Romney's war chest is full of money. The GOP money guys, Karl Rove types have not jumped on the old Gingrich bandwagon.

                              And then there is the womens' vote... Gingrich is a dead man walking. But the primary polls tell us this week that they are resurrecting the dead (Gingrich)to not give it to Romney.

                              • 10 votes
                              Reply#4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:35 PM EST

                              Gosh northstar, I read that miked thinks most Americans would prefer Gingrich over Obama given a choice. But when he said most Americans he was referring to hard working, tax paying citizens. Not those from Obama's base.... the welfare cheating, unemployed with no desire to work.

                              Obama's administration increased the size of the Fed by 7% the first two years of his term.... it is now increased by 13%, yet the country is still in a recession....! Doesn't this say something? The poll don't mean diddly today other than for campaign contributions... but you have to agree that Obama isn't a fan of the middle class... but his base is with the the corporists and those who really don't want to go back to work and lose their gov't benefits.

                              • 15 votes
                              #4.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:59 PM EST

                              Good evening left...

                              Going fishing tonight I see... "Obama's base... the welfare cheating, unemployed with no desire to work." But keep trolling...

                              As a proud member of Obama's base, I will work for his reelection.

                              If you are a proud member of the Republican party, are you in a quandary ? Or have you decided to help get out the vote for old Newt? I hear he is looking for volunteers in Iowa for the next month.

                              • 9 votes
                              #4.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:23 PM EST

                              Northstar, thought I would drop in to see what was happening before getting into the game. I see Speaker Pelosi has got the RWNJ's riled up. And I also see they are, as usual, making up their own facts.

                              I, myself, am a proud member of President Obama's base and am working for his reelection also.

                              Rebaggers have no pride. They seem to be only going where the next breeze takes them.

                              • 9 votes
                              #4.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:46 PM EST

                              hey northstar, why is it you and the other libbie are outraged by anyone who disagrees with Obama's policies?

                              Many have asked, but none have answered.... What has Obama done in the last 3.5years but tripled the debt and created a climate of class warfare? And don't even mention he killed OBL or Kaddafi... lol! And blaming Bush is not a positive when talking about Obama..... capische?

                              Rebaggers have no pride

                              phine.... still trying to emulate carrot top? You shame yourself!

                              • 16 votes
                              #4.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:07 PM EST

                              phinephancy,

                              Thanks for stopping by. Still waiting for my steak to be perfectly broiled before I open up an nice white Italian wine. Sounds like you had a great dinner tonight.

                              I never want to get too deep in the weed on an empty stomach.

                              so far the two posters "miked" and "left" have gone out to dinner too.!!!

                              • 4 votes
                              #4.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:10 PM EST

                              left is fuzzy, give up getting northstar or phine (?) to defend Obama's record or even admit that he has made any mistakes! It just ain't gonna happen because they can't do it.... BO's record speaks for itself. Go figure? They just don't get it!

                              • 13 votes
                              #4.6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:26 PM EST

                              This is really hard to do, I'm trying to figure out what to say to help relieve you lefties brain trauma without hurting your feelings...I honestly feel really sorry for all of you, to be so blind when it's all right under your noses...the selling of America, brought to you by Obama and Co.

                              Obama is done just as Cain is, how can anyone expect to keep a job that you aren't qualified for? Neither has the proper experience and we don't have the time anymore to experiment and give any rookies a shot at fixing this country!

                              But don't you worry none, after we have taken back our country and got rid of all the waste in DC such as all the useless czars, I will still be your friend....I promise

                              Ron Paul 2012

                              • 7 votes
                              #4.7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:40 PM EST

                              lefty,

                              Sorry I missed your last post before I had my dinner break.

                              "hey northstar, why is it you and the other libbie are outraged by anyone who disagrees with Obama's policies?"

                              You think I am outraged by the Republicans, tea party folks? Not a chance. I am amused, and disappointed.

                              I AM OUTRAGED by racism, sexism, child abuse, children who are homeless, fellow citizens who die because they do not have health insurance.

                              I promise I won't bring up Obama and "the killing of OBL or Kaddafi."

                              GWBush is not part of the current discussion, agree.

                              Our national debt has grown because CONGRESS has not attacked the deficit in any meaningful way . They must include both spending cuts and increase in revenues. The gridlock in the Senate is especially counterproductive due to the filibuster rule.

                              "Class warfare" is the result of the gap between the 99% and the 1% in real income. Blaming the teachers, police officers, the person who works in the state motor vehicle dept. or the forest ranger in our national parks is disingenuous. They were not the cause of the financial collapse in 2008.

                              Obama stepped onto the national stage with an address at the Dem convention in 2004. It was about our nation which is not fundamentally red state or blue state but the United States of America. He has acted the same as president. He has sought compromise, a balanced approach in working with Congress. He has taken criticism from both the right and the left. He understands that we are in the midst of a global shift in economic, political, strategic realities.

                              For me he is the right president for the right time.

                              Now left, Ben Snead, and tcko63 tell me why your candidate will be a better president?

                              • 7 votes
                              #4.8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:20 PM EST

                              Northstar

                              Obama, promised to uphold the DOMA as campaigner, then did an about-face and now opposes the DOMA. He promised to run the most transparent admin in history, only to be excoriated by famous journalists and fellow lib Helen Thomas, who was in the white house press corps for decades. She said we have "NEVER had this level of control before" and lack of transparency and she was in the press corps when NIXON was in office! Obama promised to include both sides of the aisle in all major legislation, yet shut out repubs on the Healthcare debate and still couldnt even get all of the DEMS on board. Hope and Change, not business as usual right? Obama had to offer the Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback, and the Sestak 7 shady deals behind closed doors to get members of his own party to vote for Obamacare. Obama is the man who signs legislation with a Speaker who says "we must pass the bill so we can find out what is in it." HOW PATHETIC. Obama's economic policies have failed. We have been over 8% unemployment for a record 32 months, THE LONGEST SINCE WWII. His stimulus package failed, where are all the jobs? He has added onto the debt at a MUCH faster rate than GWB, and will pass GWBs total debt in 8 yrs in only Obama's first term. Most of Obama's time has been spent either playing golf or on vacation. He is currently on a taxpayer funded campaign trip across the nation, the last I checked it had been nearly 44 days since he had been to Washington. Here we are, struggling to survive as a nation, and our leader is out campaigning for NEXT year on taxpayer dollars. Obama excoriated going to Iraq, and then, hypocritically, sends our air force to Libya to "lead from behind" without ever asking Congress to vote on it. He didnt even bother getting Congressional approval, the peoples' approval. Pathetic. He has turned his back on our close ally Israel by telling them to go back to pre-1967 borders, how insulting.

                              No one is blaming teachers, firemen, police officers, people would only like to see them contribute to their own futures more. Why should taxpayers have to pay the healthcare and entire pensions of these federal employees?? Why does the nurse, or store clerk, waitress, construction worker, people who NEVER get these kinds of perks, be forced to pay, in the form of taxes, the healthcare and pensions of teachers? THAT MAKES NO SENSE. And then someone finally asks them to pay a small portion of their OWN pension and healthcare and the teachers riot (WISC). PATHETIC.

                              Obama promised to bring this country together. He promised to stop the division. He has COMPLETELY failed and has succeeded in becoming the most polarizing president in history. WHich is why he also has the lowest approval ratings for ANY incumbent president seeking re-election... No president has ever been re-elected with a job approval as low as Obama's. So, yeah...Obama rocks! Great Job!

                                #4.9 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:15 PM EST

                                Roanoke1,

                                Thanks for your post even though I don't agree with your interpretation of Obama's presidency.

                                Health Care Reform Act has been a great benefit to children with pre-existing conditons. Now young adults can continue to be insured under their parents policy until 26 years of age. I do agree that the Republicans and some conservative Dem did every thing to prevent this bill from going farther. I personally think that a single payer system is the best way to insure all citizens.

                                Our troops in Iraq are all coming home, except for a small force by the end of this year. It was a war we should never have gotten into. and at least now it is part of the budget instead of being off budget during the Bush administration.

                                The stimulus bill helped many states to keep teachers and first responders in their jobs. It did provide for some shovel ready projects. I know of at least three in my city here in MN. He has tried to pass a jobs bills through this dysfunctional Congress. The Republicans have refused each and every time. They use the threat of the filibuster in the Senate to even keep the bill to be voted up or down.

                                I believe his support of NATO and our use of airstrikes finally got rid a petty dictator who had killed many of our citizens in the Pam Am bombing.

                                The global recession which started in 2008 before Obama took office will take at least 10 year to get back on track. What is Congress doing? They refuse to close corporate loop holes in our tax code. They refuse to raise revenue to begin to reduce the deficit along with spending cuts. The super committee implosion is put at the feat of Boehner who said when the deal was struck last summer, that he got 98% of what he wanted. What exactly was that?

                                So now we are in another election year. If Newt is the best you can do for a candidate, God help the GOP...

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.10 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:57 AM EST

                                Northstar,

                                No, I disagree that Obamacare has done much. Actually, much of what you are talking about does not even take effect until 2014 or after. Obamacare has created vast uncertainty in the business world, our job creators, and thus, businesses are not hiring new employees. Entreprenuers are not buying and running businesses, they have no idea what Obamacare and this administration will do to their revenue once Obamacare is implemented in it's entirety. Did you know that over 10,000 separate regulations on businesses have been imposed by our government since 2008. Uncertainty about the future and massive regulation is why job creation is so small right now. And you speak of the stimulus working?? No, unemployment is STILL over 8% (after he vowed that it wouldnt go above 8% if we passed his 825$ billion stimulus). We have been over 8% unemployment for 32 consecutive months now, the longest period since WWII-era. Remember Obama, just several months ago at a conference? He admitted the stimulus wasn't much of a success. He said "well, I guess shovel-ready wasn't so shovel ready after all." And then he chuckles, because I guess $825 billion of taxpayer dollars basically wasted is rather humorous to him. Who cares, its not his money right? Just taxpayer dollars.

                                Again, you skirt the issue of Libya. I never stated that we should not have gone to Libya to remove a ruthless dictator (the same reason we WENT TO IRAQ, which you seem to be against, ironically). I questioned Obama's method in going. He never asked Congress. He never got the approval of the people. Guess what? George Bush DID get Congressional approval. He asked Congress, and even many Democrats favored going to war in Iraq. Heck, even HIllary Clinton voted to GO TO WAR in Iraq. A president just sending troops to war without Congressional approval is akin to a dictator, and that is what Obama did.

                                You fail to remember that Obama and the Dems HAD A SUPERMAJORITY for their first two years. It was filibuster proof, AND THEY NEVER PASSED A SINGLE BUDGET. So please, stop using that tired line in blaming the Repubs. YOUR party had a filibuster proof supermajority, and not ONCE did they ever feel it necessary to actually pass a budget, during a recession!!! WOW. That is just crazy. And the super committee was never supposed to succeed. It was designed to fail and designed to make Repubs look bad. The dems in the super committe were never going to compromise.

                                Again, you blame Repubs, but there are over 20 Jobs bills that HAVE PASSED the House WITH BIPARTISAN support, and 132 independent economists from the most prestigious universities in the U.S. have pledged support of these GOP jobs bills over the Democrats' jobs bill. These GOP bills have dead on arrival in the Democrat controlled Senate. Harry Reid wont even allow them to be read. So, which party is refusing to cooperate?? Hmmm?

                                Corporate loop holes? The corporate tax is 35%, meaning a business owner who makes 1 million a year has to give $350,000 of his money straight to the government. How much more of this man's money do you or others deserve? It sure seems like this man is paying MORE than his fair share...

                                Obama cannot run on his record, because it is abysmal, hence his historically low approval ratings. If this is the best the donkeys can muster, than God help the Dems...

                                  #4.11 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 8:50 AM EST
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                                  If Newt won the election how would we refer to Newt and his wife? The lying Scoundral in Chief and the First Floozy?

                                  • 9 votes
                                  Reply#5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:45 PM EST

                                  Nah, she'd be the Second Floozy..

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:54 PM EST

                                  Hate to correct both of you, but she is the THIRD Floozy.

                                  • 9 votes
                                  #5.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:47 PM EST

                                  Does the neighbor's wife giving Newt a BJ in the front seat of his car while his kids walked by constitute number four in training?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:21 PM EST

                                  Jennie

                                  4th? Are you alleging that Newter has bent his sacred pledge to Claista? Hard to believe since she don't let Newter out of her sight for five minutes. She's no fool and knows how she got her bread buttered.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:08 PM EST

                                  LoyalTexan

                                  Some guy was on MSNBC on the weekend talking about how he was Newt's neighbor and as he was walking by with his and Newt's kids when they were small, he witnessed a neighbor's wife's head bobbing up and down in Newt's lap while he was in his car parked in his driveway one day. He rushed the kids by and he thought they did not see what was going on but he knew and he knew that Newt was a wastrel since.

                                    #5.5 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:04 AM EST

                                    Inphancey what will you do if your check is not in the mail this week?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #5.6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:48 AM EST

                                    Jennifer

                                    If floozie #3 gets wind of this, Newter's going to have an expensive visit to Tiffanys.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #5.7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:37 AM EST

                                    ssmike

                                    I am not sure if you were sending that little jab out to me or not but if I were really really desperate and I was predisposed to do something to pay the rent like what I think you were alluding to, I would just have to accept that I would be living under a bridge. You might have gone another way apparently since the thought of it came to you. Interesting.

                                      #5.8 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:34 PM EST

                                      I wonder if Newt sees the country like you ssmike? I think he does make people "pay" for his services and uses people just a tad, don't you?

                                        #5.9 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:47 PM EST
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                                        Eighty-four ethics charges were filed against Speaker Gingrich during his term, including claiming tax-exempt status for a college course run for political purposes. Following an investigation by the House Ethics Committee Gingrich was sanctioned US$300,000.[65] Gingrich acknowledged in January 1997 that "In my name and over my signature, inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee". [66] The House Ethics Committee concluded that inaccurate information supplied to investigators represented "intentional or ... reckless" disregard of House rules.[67] Special Counsel James M. Cole concluded that Gingrich violated federal tax law and had lied to the ethics panel in an effort to force the committee to dismiss the complaint against him. The full committee panel did not agree whether tax law had been violated[68] and left that issue up to the IRS.[69] In 1999, the IRS cleared the organizations connected with the "Renewing American Civilization" courses under investigation for possible tax violations.

                                        If this guy is a legitimate GOP candidate so is Sandusky.. Newt's VP

                                        • 7 votes
                                        Reply#6 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:53 PM EST

                                        sandusky is dem and lib ...all the way!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #6.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:20 PM EST

                                        rizzo

                                        Go look up Paterno and Sandusky's political activities on the net. You will find that both have been very active in the REPUBLICAN PARTY. You have more then your share of perverts, womanizers and cheats in your party, so stop trying to deflect your perverts on the Dems. Thank you.

                                          #6.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:37 PM EST

                                          Don, go research Tony Rezko and Barack Obama. Yeeeaaaahhh...so much for ethics, huh? LOL!!!!

                                            #6.3 - Wed Dec 7, 2011 11:22 AM EST
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                                            Newt Gingrich is filled with partisan slime and ethics skulduggery that many American voters either do not know of or have forgotten. Let us understand that Mr. Gingrich lost his position of national prominence as Speaker of the House because of severe and serial ethics lapses. Voters have a right to know of what kind of lapses and misdeeds Newt is guilty of over his long and insidious career as a creature of Washington, a man of the swamps, if you will. http://www.sunstateactivist.org

                                            • 6 votes
                                            Reply#7 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:53 PM EST

                                            Even his fellow GOP members of Congress didn't like him then, and don't like him now.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #7.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:48 PM EST

                                            I'd say forgotten. Just like all the Hillary supporters forgot about her many scandals 10+ years before the 08 primaries. Point me out one candidate from any party that isn't ethically-challenged I'm sick to death of all of em but the one in office isn't any better. Honestly, how much does the fact that a pres/congressman whoever cheated on his wife, used a politically incorrect word, or used to work for agency X affect our lives? Dirtbag politicians have been around for a long time. What matters to most of us the standard of living for ourselves and those in our communities--do we have jobs, homes, controlled crime, etc.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #7.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:04 PM EST

                                            lucygoosie

                                            Point me out one candidate from any party that isn't ethically-challenged

                                            Very Easy,

                                            Ron Paul

                                            No one has challenged his ethics yet, but I'm sure someone will eventually take the opportunity to make a fool of themselves.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #7.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:46 AM EST
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                                            According to Tom Colburn, no GOP member working under Newt from the 90's would support him....they all think he's a slim ball.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#8 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:56 PM EST

                                            I love the term 'most Americans' or most economists or most whatever. Both sides use it and when they do both sides are correct. Sort of. As an example I'll use the economists. President Obama says most economists agree with him. The GOP contenders say most economists agree with them. However it should say "more of the economists I have talked to agree with me".

                                            All of the polls taken are pretty useless. When you take a poll you can slant the question or tweek the responses so they go with the message you are trying to promote. Same thing with statistics.

                                            Until November of next year we will not really know what 'most Americans' think until the votes are counted.

                                            It is going to be a very expensive and brutal campaign cycle for both parties. Those that think it is going to be a cake walk are (insert your own comment here).

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#9 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:56 PM EST

                                            Didn't the GOP party the party of Moral and Family values? Just how does Newt meet thier minimum qualifications.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#10 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:00 PM EST

                                            Isn't the Democrat party the party of no Moral nor Family values? Just why does the ethics issues mean anything to them?

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #10.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:22 PM EST

                                            Isn't the Democrat party the party of no Moral nor Family values?

                                            No Candy babe,......that would be your party.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #10.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:29 PM EST

                                            GOPis-

                                            I don't really have a party.

                                            My feeling is that the ethics issues are already out there and known. So are the affairs. I am more concerned about candidates that might have surprises (like Mr. Cain).

                                            Newt made mistakes. He owned up to them, admitted them, hopefully learned from them, and now it's time to move on. I think other conservatives - including other women - feel the same way. Especially when there are more important issues of the country to deal with.

                                            While I think we all try, we've all made mistakes, GOPis, haven't we?

                                            By the way....I like it when you call me "babe."

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #10.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:36 PM EST

                                            Okay babe no pun intended vetting is a good thing. This something we forgot in 2008 it must be done and the skeletons must come forward before the election. Newt is and always will be a good person, but he is also a career polo He as well as all other full time career polo must go

                                              #10.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:43 PM EST

                                              the skeletons must come forward before the election

                                              I totally agree. The last thing we need is a "November" surprise.

                                              Career politician? I wish a true "outsider" would be electable and run. Unfortunately, I think all the truly qualified, rational, and capable with the leadership qualities we need ....are too smart to want to take the job.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #10.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:50 PM EST
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                                              Just when you think this clown show can't get any better up pops two professional clowns the Newt and the Donald.Please their two massive ego's in the same room.Only one can leave with the clown crown.It's pretty close but my moneys on Newt

                                              • 5 votes
                                              Reply#11 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:07 PM EST

                                              This campaign season just gets crazier!

                                              I love a good sh*t slinging contest.

                                              It isn't how much you throw--it's how much sticks.

                                              Let's see how much sticks and who it sticks to.

                                              • 4 votes
                                              Reply#12 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:24 PM EST

                                              If this were truly ethical, she would not think to release a 13 year investigation just as Gingrich is drawing attention as a potential GOP candidate. I'm not a NG fan, but this just makes her look unethical. Again.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              Reply#13 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:55 PM EST

                                              “If she’s saying that she’s going to use material that she developed while she was on the ethics committee,” Gingrich added, “that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House, and I would hope that members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.”

                                              Sounds like a man with something to hide to me.

                                              Just sayin.

                                              • 8 votes
                                              Reply#14 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:27 PM EST

                                              GOPisextinct,

                                              Really, the GOP is extinct? Hmmm, then what about that midterm thingy just last year where the GOP had their largest victory SINCE WWII, completely trouncing the Dems?!?!? LOL!! Wow, just wow.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #14.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:48 AM EST

                                              Roanoke1, what will you say if the exact opposite happens in the next election?

                                              A lot of people are having buyers remorse when it comes to that "midterm thingy". They see what the republicans and tea party people have done or not done since that election.

                                              They ran on jobs but seem to focus on abortion and other social issues but not really on jobs. If they were they would have passed President Obama's job bill since a lot of it were republican ideas of the past. Just like the healthcare law, including the mandate, were the republicans idea during the Clinton administration. Somehow now they are against all the things that they were for in the past.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #14.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 3:20 PM EST

                                              Andie

                                              what will you say if the exact opposite of the 2008 election happens, in 2012?

                                              Lots of people are saying that about Obama, hence his pathetic job approval ratings. Actually, NO incumbent president has ever been re-elected with an approval number as low as Obama's....

                                              Obama and the DEMS had two years of a SUPERMAJORITY, and they NEVER passed a budget. TWO YEARS!

                                                #14.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:22 PM EST
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                                                Now Nancy,

                                                That's not fair. Newt's 15 minutes on top of the race is not over yet. She really should let him win a primary or two before she starts the inevitable crumbling of Humpty Dumpty. Back in the late 90's, Newt was starting to look like a crook, for those of you who care to remember. He didn't resign his position because he was so powerful or that the ethics committee cleared him of wrongdoing. He was censured and lost the Speakership. Then he gave up his seat in the House. He was a wounded bear limping out of Congress, limping out as fast as he could before some U.S. Attorney took an interest in his shenanigans.

                                                • 7 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:33 PM EST

                                                I am not a Newt fan, nor would I ever vote for him, but Pelosi really is a total pile of Dog S#!+

                                                I'm sure some fascist liberals will collapse this, but that's okay, they know it's true too.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#16 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:39 PM EST

                                                Communism / Socialism does not work. It has been proven time and time again - USSR being one of the more recent examples. Newt is neither Communist or Socialist, so he's got to be better than the Democrats (who are not democratic by any sense of the word).

                                                • 3 votes
                                                Reply#17 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:41 PM EST

                                                sidecarjoe

                                                Communism as an economic system is dead, there isn't much left to Marx's theorems that relate to reality anymore, History, as it usually does, proved him WRONG.

                                                The above being said, Socialism is very much alive and well I'm afraid.

                                                The current model that everyone praises (for the most part) is the Chinese version of socialism. It has moved to the top as an extreme example of running a capitalist economy with a socialist totalitarian government supposedly "managing" the excesses.

                                                Actually, what is amazing, is that a capitalist economy is doing so well in a socialist dictatorship. The power of free market capitalism in creating wealth is astounding.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #17.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:03 AM EST
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                                                Speaking of Ethics... John Edwards cheats on his wife who is dying of cancer and is the scum of the universe. Newt does the exact same thing and he is the posterchild of the Republican party? and they are the morally conservative party???

                                                The republicans should nominate Jerry Sandusky to be his VP running mate.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                Reply#18 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:42 PM EST

                                                Pelosi and Gingrich............less of 2 evils. Both bad and both should leave the limelight. I wouldn't turn my back on either one of them. Neither one has credibility.

                                                Gingrich's memory is fuzzy........can't seem to remember how much he made when he was a consultant to Fannie Mae.

                                                Pelosi.......comes out with outlandish statement that your going to get universal healthcare whether you like it or not............and also chaffeurs her family on military jet across the country. T.T.B.O. = Throw the Bums Out!!!

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#19 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:43 PM EST

                                                Gingrich, has no f#*king business, in politics! " CHURCH and STATE; must be separate, so that, one eyed ; ignorant Mother; F#*kers like this pig, do not strip the " HUMAN RIGHTS" of FREE Speaking American citizens ; " like my self" and plunge this country, in a Calvinist" nightmare!

                                                • 1 vote
                                                Reply#20 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:45 PM EST

                                                judging by your statement, america doesnt want someone you choose to lead it.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #20.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:52 PM EST
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                                                gingrich will embarrass obama in the debates. To give you an insight into obama's intellectual capacity, obama gave bp oil a safety award. Gingrich brought the budget to surplus. This man is a genius. Obama is still a small child intellectually.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#21 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:50 PM EST

                                                You're really going to go there with Obama's intelellectual capacity after 8 years of Bush?... Newt is good for punch lines not substance... he is like Krusty the clown on the debate stage.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #21.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:54 PM EST

                                                newt developed the budget surplus. 1st time in 30 yrs at that time and never since. The man is a genius.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #21.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:59 PM EST

                                                yeah and he single handedly defeated communism too right...

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #21.3 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:04 PM EST

                                                Facts are facts. You cannot dispute it.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #21.4 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:09 PM EST

                                                MMAC

                                                A wise man once told me that to appear smart wait until the teacher turns his back and say in a loud voice "How you figger that?"

                                                Newter must've got the same advice. His debate tactic is to wait for the others to dodge the question and then observe, "How you figger that?"

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #21.5 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:22 PM EST

                                                You know what they say about opinions right? Laughing mine off, Moralist ass-holes have know business in politics! Otherwise, " A Satanist" should get a shot, Oops , " that was that other Administration;" when the true Axis of evil was revealed, his name was Bush!

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #21.6 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:17 AM EST

                                                LOYALTEXAN

                                                It's called counter-punching, and the Newtster is VERY good at it.

                                                But then again, so is Obama.

                                                The only way to successfully fight a counter-puncher, (misdirectionists) is with facts, facts that cannot be challenged. This is the biggest reason that no-one really wants to debate Ron Paul straight up.

                                                In every debate where they let him speak, he states and argues with facts, the rest answer with gobbledygook, and when that don't work they resort to ad-hominem attacks. The final response is to ignore the facts and respond with rhetoric in some semblance of an emotional call to peoples feelings.

                                                This is why they are very afraid of Ron Paul, and most people that can't rationally respond to his positions resort to calling him a kook, or argue that he is unelectable, exactly what they tried to do with Reagan, it is failing.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #21.7 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:36 AM EST
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                                                Typical liberal thinking, Violate house ethics rules to try and smear a republican by releasing a sealed record.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                Reply#22 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:50 PM EST

                                                Just google the guys name... no records are needed to see this guy is a lowlife scumbag who cheated on his wife who was dying of cancer while taking millions from Freddie Mac... do we really need more ethics records released?

                                                Maybe W put in a good word for him with Jebus though and how he's forgiven.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #22.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:02 PM EST

                                                Bill: As I said in an earlier post, I'm no fan of Newt, nor would I ever vote for him. But one small point of contention with your post. The wife that was dying of cancer is, in fact, still very much alive. That can't be said of Edwards' wife.

                                                Not saying what he did was right, but "dying", turned out not to be true as well. And your point on Freddie Mac is definitely right on the money.

                                                Again, as I said, I could never vote for Newt.

                                                  #22.2 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:26 PM EST
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                                                  gingrich was found innocent in 74 of the charges. 1 charge, that he funded a college program, he was found guilty. wooooohooooooooo you libs sure have got ole newt. I mean im sure the american people will see thru this.

                                                    Reply#23 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 9:57 PM EST

                                                    He paid his way out of the charges! And he was booted out of DC! That doesn't sound "innocent" to me.

                                                    "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

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                                                    #23.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:01 AM EST
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                                                    Pelosi needs to be the one watching her back. For someone with way too many skeletons in her closet, she better think twice.

                                                    As for Numbnuts getting re-elected, they are running scared that they are pulling out all of the stops to find anything on anyone running against him. They've already moved to disgrace Cain thanks to David Axlerod's bogus fabrications on Cain. Why is it that court records somehow get unsealed at the flick of a wrist and no one bothers to ask the questions as to how and why.

                                                    How about looking into Pelosi's background and her servants that work for her both before and after she got elected. How id it that her husbands company is granted political favor in his business?

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    Reply#24 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:05 PM EST

                                                    Shadow: Not to mention, that for all of Pelosi's pro union bluster, you won't find a single union employee in ANY of her businesses. Not one.

                                                    But I bet you probably could find an illegal alien or two that was being paid under the table. Just speculation of course, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #24.1 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:31 PM EST
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                                                    pelosi ..worst thing for california and the country...''pass the health care so we can see whats in it'' bad,bad thing ....libs are a freaken joke...they just love spending others money...and stealing money from others...vote all dems out 2012 !

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    Reply#25 - Mon Dec 5, 2011 10:11 PM EST

                                                    Rizzo-You are one moron-no wonder people like cain and perry can even run in your party.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #25.1 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 12:22 AM EST

                                                    Barry I agree, and I wonder why good honest people like Ron Paul or Huntsman have such a hard time in the party.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #25.2 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:41 AM EST

                                                    Ron Paul does not get a shot cause the liberal press does not give him coverage. He scares the hell out of the established left and right. Too much common sense does not make for good politics.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #25.3 - Tue Dec 6, 2011 8:19 AM EST
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