Suspending? it means he will have to figure out a way to give back all the campaign funds. Can he stand up and say "NO I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THAT WOMAN" like Bill Clinton said? Well in Bill's case he lied because oral sex apparently is not sex. But can Herman say that at least? Can he say my penis never entered Ginger's vagina in a sexual manner?

Its sad that someone who could really do some good for this country was brought down by a bunch of vindictive bitches.

Cain could have beat Obama, and getting Obama out of office should be a top priority for every true red blooded American (something Obama isn't) out there. I say Obama isn't because he is for a pro socialist/communist movement and is supported by a terrorist radical, Bill Ayres.

Momus- Why are you supporting Obama? Is it because of his record, and if so what? Remember that his improving golf game does not count....

He was better off holding a press conference in his back yard. Alone. This was too sensational. I will say however that for someone who hasn't run for office before, he is a good speaker. But too large an ego which has put him in this position.

But like most politicians of the past, he is blaming the media it appears. Politicians are going to have to learn that the media and opponents will unearth all they can.

So these politicians need to be prepared for the assault. That's just how it is in today's world. And when they have no defense the answer now appears to "suspend" their campaign. Why? So they don't appear to be a quitter.

If people want to give him money so be it. I just hope they think twice before they do.

I guess now I understand why Bill Clinton survived his Jennifer Flowers situation. People wanted to invest in him because he was an extremely smart guy despite his negatives.

Cain couldn't bring those qualities to the table. So he is gone.

I have made many mistakes in life

the biggest one was thinking you would get the Republican nomination, Herman. They can show their true color now that you're out of the way.

Hey Mark L....Who the @!$%# said I support Obama? I'm more in tune with what Ron Paul has to say more than anyone, but his foreign policy and all of the "States rights" talk is what scares me away from him. Why do you support Romney?

Wait for the Divorce from his Wife--Next Chapter.

Maybe he can go on the Media Circuit and discuss How to Ruin a Family.

If a candidate ends their political career they get to keep the money just have to pay the taxes as income earned, Nice way to make some money ..... I read that some where ....... LOL

Good Nine Mr Cain! This is the BEST GOP race I have EVER seen!

(on a side note, would it possible for him to at least moderate the debates? That would be a great reality show! 9 Questions, 9 topics, At 9:00)

Buy Cain t-shirts - show those libs and the media.... luving it... I predict a G.Gordon Libby like following, radio show etc. They'll be plenty of time for "fans" to make Hermie even wealthier. You might say "mission accomplished" in that regard.

And what about the personal Hermie fund for the Hermie groupies. There's a chance he might "help" them out too...

Hopefully he endorsed Gingrich going out since they are indeed brothers from another mother..

@Greg Parker

I don't think it's too much to ask that a presidential candidate not lie, not cheat, show ethical behavior and have at least a modicum of knowledge about the world. That's not important for the leader of the free world, huh??

(yeah like we really believe you're black.)

The remaining 'color' in the GOP race is definitely not on the side of minorities. How long will it take for those most heavily burdened in this economy to realize this and take a stand against this GOP that pledges to tax and cut benefits only to those carrying the most burden in our society. 46 million in poverty in America - what's the racial profile of that reflect? Will they organize to get out the vote against Grover and his TPers? Let's hope so as 46 million votes against this 'pale' GOP will help turn this country around.

Conservatives consistently paint themselves as paragons of morality. But if one watches their actual behavior it becomes readily apparent that they have nothing in the way of either ethics or empathy. It's absolutely impossible to be a moral person without either of those qualities - judge not; lest ye be judged.

@ Feisty

I dropped by the DDI. I needed someplace to go as I toasted a farewell to Hermie.

Washington lives in a different world; he was a insider in Washington politics, lobbyist, board member of the Federal Reserve, but forgot the primary rule, make sure you cover your tracks; Washington lifestyle is all about power brokers, money and women, they do not understand that America is basically a moral country, we expect more from our leaders, oneday we will get it.

From "I'm in it to win it" to "how in the hell am I going to spin it". Suspending the campaign is his best decision to date. Bye, bye Cain! Ain't going to miss ya. Give poor Gloria my best, she deserves better.

I say Good Luck to Herman Cain. I may not agree with some of his views, but becoming a front runner for president (even for a small period of time) is no small feat. He will probably become a news commentator or have his own show. Whatever he decides to do, it should include the food that got him to where he is today and Americans love to eat--Pizza! Perhaps the Food Channel should have "Uncle Hermie's Pizza Cuisine" or, during his talk show, serves a different kind of pizza to the crowd every episode. Huckabee plays his music, so Cain should serve his pizza!

A couple of points. I really expected Hermie to start with the old Tricky Dicky line of "Well, you won't have old Herman to kick around anymore!"

And point 2. This guy is a motivational speaker? I actually dozed off for a couple of minutes. Lou Holtz, Herman Edwards, Colin Powell - they can motivate you. Hermie is NOT motivating (unless you are a blond)

The thing that is NOT remarkable is Cain blaming everyone but himself, and this thread where some of the extremist are saying some pretty vile things about women. You don't have to scratch a fringe right winger too hard to find a misogynist.

Larry Sinclair?

It's about damn time. Now if all the other republican nutjobs would drop-out we'd be in good shape. Conservatism in the modern republican party has nothing to do with fiscal issues and everything to do with arrogance, self-righteousness and turning power over to the evangelical religious lunatics.

Hey, Navy! So glad you are back! You have been missed!

Unlike Herman Cain, at least Bill Clinton told the truth. Sometimes.

Its sad that someone who could really do some good for this country was brought down by a bunch of vindictive bitches.

Are you for real? You call five woman who were most likely telling the truth vindicticve bitches? What if one of the woman he sexually harrassed was your girlfriend, sister, wife or mother. What if these were the Democratic primarys going on right now and one of the leading Democrats had fivedifferent woman come forward and say this man made unwanted sexual advances towards them, or this man has been having a sexual affair with me for the past 13 years that his wife doesn't know about and he's been my sugar daddy in return. Would you be calling these woman vindictive bitches then? I don't think so. You would be calling the candidate a sick pervert.

Perhaps Hermie will endorse the Newt.

Afterall, Newt should have given him some pointers on how to 'handle' the situation.

Newt is the consummate love 'em, cheat on 'em, leave 'em for the next one. Stops at Tiffanys along the way!

Family Values on full display!

MarkL,

Dude, you should do your homework before you open your retarded mouth. There was a fundamental switch between the parties some time ago. Back in the days of MLK and the KKK's beginnings, the democrats were the southern conservatives, hince the nickname "Dixiecrats", the republicans were the liberals. For goodness sake, don't you people know anything about anything?

I take responsibility for my mistakes

But...........I won't admit to them.....

Mosin

I think this truly shows that the Democratic party of old is back with their white hoods again attacking a blackman

Yeah, all those women he harassed were democrats.....and the GOP is so accepting of blacks.

The affairs don't matter. The harrassments don't matter. The bottom line is that Herman Cain is almost completely ignorant of everything required to be president.

Put President Obama aside. Put aside the "even a stone would be better than Obama" nonsense. I'm not speaking on relative terms when I ask this question in all sincerity:

When you listen to Herman Cain, do you really, in your mind and heart say "This is the man who should be the leader of the free world"?

He had no chance. He made it much further than he should have.

Goodbye Herman.

Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain -- Four down (five if we count Palin), and Gingrich is next to go...

The Teapublicans are just forfeiting 2012. If only they would use the down time to reflect on why their platform sucks so much and how their Party has sunk so low. First hint -- The 99% versus the GOP and 1%.

Cain destroyed himself. He is a liar and his deeds caught up with him. His explanations have been sketchy at best for someone who claims complete innocence.

The fact that he has "suspended" his campaign is a clear indication that he feels there are other accusers out there. To be sure, his popularity is waning. But, the interesting thing is that some on the right are blaming this on Axelrod. Nonsense. The republicans did this. No way did they want Herman Cain being the standard bearer for their party. Some, like Limbaugh and Hannity, pretended to be defending Cain to create the impression that they have no racial issues. Nonsense. Cain's popularity was unexpected by Cain and the establishment republicans.

In the final analysis, the end result of Cain's campaign is about where he wanted it, except for being somewhat premature. As Cain himself is quick to say, he is a businessman. Cain's campign has been all about business. He wants higher name recognition for his book sales, radio show, and speaking engagements.

Cain figured none of this stuff would ever come up because he would not be taken seriously in the fist place. His superficial proposals and cavalier attitude toward the knowledge necessary to be an effective leader were dead giveaways.

This is bad news for Romney. Look for the Cain supporters to head straight for Gingrich. Great news for the Dems.

Herman Cain quits the race...now there's a surprise...

Mark L-464288

Tonybeeerm- Black would be the true color of Republicans.democrats .. Remember that democrats are the ones responsible for the birth of the KKK...Martin Luther King Sr. and Jr. were Republicans before Jr. was released from prison after phone calls from the white house, and only then did MLK Jr. endorse JFK. Eisenhower was the president that tried to pass civil rights only to be defeated by democrats... Lyndon B. Johnson was the deciding vote..

Party stances back then do not equate to party stances today. The vast majority of Republicans today would disagree with Theodore Roosevelt's socialistic ideas, including universal healthcare. They would also disagree with Eisenhower, who was strongly in favor of protection of Social Security. Even Richard Nixon, a more modern Republican, is responsible for creating the EPA as well as Affirmative Action. In fact, the Republican party did not become "conservative" until Reagan and his Supply Siders took office in 1980.

1SGFitzsWife4ID

You are an great example of good people that can speak your mind fairly; thank you for being a Real American! Perhaps we can all work together to craft a better future for this great Country!!

As far as Cain goes, my mother had said she thought he was such a good man and liked what he had to say, early on. She is typical of those just trying to make a substitute for Obama from the Republican Party rather than admitting President Obama beats EVERY ONE of the fools/liars/cheats running for POTUS this election. And I'll bet she never brings up how wrong she was.

Needless to say, I avoid speaking politics with my Mom...I still Love her though!! ;-)

Peace

Maui2-"Maybe he can go on the Media Circuit and discuss How to Ruin a Family."

The media didn't put their pole in the wrong holes, Herman Cain did. You don't think all the lies that were manufactured about our President took a toll on his family? And--they were lies. The real birth certificate, "half white", the allegations that he was a "Muslim" or a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer. He's handled the heat and answered with class---unlike, now--ordinary citizen Cain.

That loud whine is deafening.

Linda M., you say that it doesn't make sense for someone to run for President with all these skeletons in the closet. Mr. Cain appears to have a very large ego. Perhaps in his mind they are not skeletons. What was it Jerry Sandusky said? "In my mind it wasn't inappropriate behavior." That sounds about like what Mr. Cain has been saying.

Cain's suspension is a greedy and cynical ploy to qualify for matching Federal funding in January 2012. This is a loophole that needs to be closed - pronto!

It makes no difference, the liberal, state run, Obama media could dig up dirt on Mickey Mouse if he were running for president. They would pay the same five women too. All this is such a double standard.

Obama couldn't even pass a security check to serve on his own secret service. He's had relations with a domestic terrorist(Bill Ayers) for crying out loud. Who bombed the pentagon and a police station in New York. And says he wished he had done more. Obama has chased off the drilling rigs in the gulf, told Canada "no" to a pipeline to brings us more oil, gave Brazil 2 billion to drill off their coast. Has promised to break the coal industry. He's destroying the private healthcare industry. He's done nothing to help the private sector grow and create jobs. His and the democrats goal for gas prices is $10 a gallon. Yes, that is a dirty little secret they don't want you to know. $10 a gallon.

What's good for America, is bad for the democrat party. What's good for the democrat party, is bad for America.

gREG pARKER--Are you freaking kidding!! Just how did the media force Cain to have affairs, use his campaign as promotion for his book, t-shirts etc, be involved in corrupt business practices and heres' the big one HAVE No IDea what he's talking about when it COMES to FOreign AFFairs???

I have a question if someone wouldn't mind. The way the article sounds, it sounds like Cain can come back in the race at any time. Is this possible? It sounds like he is hiding right up until the election. I am not sure how this works so any insight would be helpful.

Thanks

Thanks Chris H and Mr Anon. I know that history in the eyes of a teabagger are a bit short sighted. Still, it's funny to get scolded by one and then show them how wrong they are. You guys said pretty much what I would have. And it's nice to see the collapse cops are on the job today as well.

Congratulations Liberals, you have made your KKK ancestors proud. You have effectively pissed on MLK's grave. You have spat in the face of Rosa Parks. You have sicked the dogs on the marchers to Selma. By destroying Cain, you have made a mockery of your Civil Rights heritage. To reiterate, the one thing a Proud Black Man can not be in America today is a political conservative. The Liberal Cotton Patch enslaves Blacks into a system where welfare is king and entrepreneurship is considered a betrayal of your Lilly White Donkey Masters who run the DNC Plantation.

Hey Greg Parker - don't blame any LIBERALS for this Cain Wreck!! We had NOTHING to do with this. The GOP has played their 'Mandingo' card and yes, I found ALL of this highly entertaining.

If you have a problem with how this 'brotha' was treated, you have only to look at the GOP for this. Heck, all of us Liberals WANTED Hermie to continue and win the nomination!!

Too bad the Sperminator couldn't continue. I would have been interesting to see Hermie going against the President.

I'm not her biggest supporter but this is getting ridiculous!

Thanks 1SGFitzsWife4ID!

Newsvine would be well served to disable the collapse feature altogether!

The abuse runs rampant on both sides of the aisle!

Trust you had a good Thanksgiving!

Herman Cain "used" everyone in this country.

Unlike ex Pres. Clinton, this philanderer knew nothing about Political Issues, flopping on the Libya question. That was the sword that broke him.

RE: the women's claim of Harassment, I was willing to give him the Benefit of the Doubt---but when Ginger came out and said it was a 13 year Affair with this man; the deal was sealed for me--She said it was strickly "SEX"--how about $$$$$?

When are the Politicians going to face the Country, and stop blaming everyone but themselves for being owed another woman in their life. Public Servants; yes they are--they are serving many women in this Country.

I do not feel sorry for Mrs. Cain, either. She knew about the affair--she stayed in the marriage for the money and status. I don't like her either.

So they say they are going to stay together. Yes, each living in a different house.

That is how very wealthy people deal with keeping their Status, Marriage, and keeping the Assets together--Mrs. Cain will now be HIS "Escort" to Social Affairs, not Sexual Affairs.

What a STUPID man, who thinks he is so powerful; the American Citizens are the stupid ones. It make me SICK!!!

Go your way Cain, and live it in good health. Hopefully, none of us will have to hear about his Ego, and bragging again. No one is perfect, but this guy is Flawed to the Max!

Nanette,

He can come back when and if he chooses. I'm guessing he'll use the time off to implement more buy offs and gag orders on all the women he can remember harrassing or having affairs with. That should take awhile.

What is the phrase?...

I told you so?

In mu post above - I was referring to Mark L's post, not Greg Parker. I apologize for the mistake. however, to BOTH of you, it wasn't any liberals that torpedoed Herman Cain's candidacy.

Like Obama Mitt is hapless off script- the difference being that the media never challenges Obama to think for himself.

Maui2,

I would suggest you go back to the "off script" debates from 2008 when President Obama dismantled McCain. This whole Limbaugh concoction that President Obama can only speak with a teleprompter is ridiculous.

I would challenge right wingers to think for themselves and stop parroting this spurious allegation.

Herman don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out, PS Don't forget to take your 999 and your lawyer with you ?

It does NOT make sense that Cain would even start this whole process if he really had all these skeletons in his closet.

Linda,

Then I'm guessing you also don't believe any of the allegations (outside of Monica) against Bill Clinton. After all, if he had done those things, why would he have even run for president?

That's probably not the strongest argument.

If you're husband had 5 women allege sexual misconduct, and you found out that he had paid two of them off and had gag orders on them, and he had been funneling money to a third one for 13 years, would you believe him when he said nothing was going on?

Cain's face to face talk with Gloria, Honey it was that 999 ? Ginger White said it was 9"+ 99 times = 999 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You play-You pay.

1st time any of my comments have been collapsed by community. Why? Because I dared say that Cain was "effectively destroyed" by Liberal Haters. Does the truth hurt that much lefties? Can't stand the fact that beneath all that intellectual pretentiousness, there lurks the dark Archie Bunker in you all? You have made a mockery of Civil Rights this day. If it is even possible for a Liberal to feel shame, know that you have crucified Herman Cain politically and almost certainly destroyed his marriage and family life. Haters.

OK, this comment is directed to Greg Parker.

I see you think that the Liberals had something to do with this. We didn't. In effect, many Liberals were rooting for Herman Cain to be successful!!

Your disdain is misplaced. You need to talk to the GOP establishment that 'hired' Herman Cain to be a clown - a buffoon - to give the ILLUSION that there is some place for a Black man in the Republican primary.

Hermie the Clown did well. He quoted POKEMON during a debate, told black people that they are the problem if they are poor, and that he (Hermie) was the Koch 'brotha from another motha'.

Remember that, Greg?

With all of that, why on EARTH would any Liberal want Hermie the Clown to stop?

Well, Hermie the Clown went OFF SCRIPT - scripted by the GOP establishment - and decided he really DID want to be President.

This did NOT fly well with the GOP establishment's goal of making Mitt Romney the nominee, so they got rid of him. The GOP establishment knows how squirrelly Conservatives get when a 'big black man' goes after a White woman for something sexual

So, Greg, why are you NOT going after the GOP establishment for playing the 'race card'? Why are you not outraged that the GOP establishment wanted Herman to be a clown - say nonsensical things that no other Conservative COULD say - for entertainment purposes?

Did you REALLY think that the GOP establishment was going to put up Herman Cain as the Republican nominee??

Well, did you?

Herman's '30 pieces of silver' for selling himself out was the book tour, where he was to fleece as many Conservatives as he could to enrich himself. And you Conservatives fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

Did you NOT see this same tactic with Sarah Palin? Notice she took the money and GOT OUT while she could. Herman 's ego would not let him just take the money, and he was SLAPPED DOWN by the GOP establishment because he didn't do what they wanted him to do.

And THIS is the party you are supporting, Greg?

Believe me when I tell you that the Liberals could not have been happier if Hermie actually got the nomination (and the GOP has that nomination reserved for Romney, like it or not).

So, to coin a phrase from Herman Cain -

'Don't be mad at Liberals if Herman Cain was denied the Republican Presidential by the race and Mandigo card!!

Blame YOURSELF for being complicit with the GOP establishment's BS!!'

It's actually too bad. I was really enjoying Herman Cain being a clown. I know it is hard, but really, Greg, all of this was a means to get Conservatives and supporters to part from their hard-earned money for nothing. With this crew, the GOP is handing President Obama a 2nd term on a silver platter with a bow.

I am sure President Obama will thank the GOP for their generosity.

At your expense.

It’s about time he dropped out. Just the thought of this brain dead womanizer becoming President makes me break out in hives.

Herman's financial support has dried up from the Tea-Retards in the GOP. Another turd floats to "Disgrace" Who's next, could it be that insider guy - the man of family values.

Unhappy,

Now there's an interesting moniker, especially given the quote below.

I agree. I hate MSNBC. If given the choice between this and another newscast I would pick another one.

Well, what's stopping you from leaving if you hate MSNBC? Why are you even posting here in the first place? Go! Go! Go! Begone! Maybe you'll find happiness. . . .

Linda M.,

I, for one, do not believe all these allegations against Cain

Please tell me you're smarter than this.

Is this the new GOPper plan... instead of standing, facing the music - just take a few weeks off - then get a Block-buster Media surge for winning New Hampshire ... just like Newt Gingrich did?

Nothing changed from being the slime spewing toad Newt was before he suspended his campaign - but when he did his "Come-Back" tour - he wa heralded as the Savior of the Repugnate Field ... eclipsed Mitt, Michelle and Cain.

So Cain, apparently, wants some of that too. He is suspending his campaign - to let the news cycles cool down a little. The burst back on the scene with renewed vigor.... a day at the spa can bring your spirit back... especially with a "Happy Ending".

Give credit where and when its due --- when its too hot in the kitchen, just take a vacation.

Thumbs up.... way to go Newt/Cain or Cain/Newt... it doesn't matter right now. They can measure who has the longest (vacation) later.

Oh, mann... This candidate, Herman Cain... his problem is NOT his prior woman issues. ALL people with extra high ambitions have a problem with keeping their WeeWee's under control. Some high profile people FORGET the importance of a politically acceptable name.

Herman = creepy (PeeWee, Munster)

Cain = (BIBLE creepy name and character)

YOU CAN'T HAVE SEXUAL CONTROL ISSUES WITH A NAME LIKE HERMAN CAIN !! That name is a figurative KICK ME target on his crotch. Kidz... if you seek political office, heed the concept which has just been taught to you.

Cain was tried, convicted and found guilty by the media. This was very shameful by tthe media and I don't care which party you belong to.

If there is evidence to the allegations, bring it forward, But, don't bring forward the opinions of media pundits or bloggers.

So Cain, apparently, wants some of that too. He is suspending his campaign - to let the news cycles cool down a little. The burst back on the scene with renewed vigor.... a day at the spa can bring your spirit back... especially with a "Happy Ending".

Beoweolf - that is an interesting conclusion you posted. KUDOs to you for really figuring this out. I guess that we may see Hermie the Clown again after all...

Hey guys, this goose is cooked! Just in time for the holidays, too!

Dear Willowbrook,

Anyone but Obama 2012!

His(Cain's) ignorance/stupidity are the very first issues which should have drummed him out before he ever mounted(pardon the pun) a presidential platform, with or w/out 999. The mountainous Iranian landscape must be considered, of course.

Blame whoever you wish, or whatever you wish. Your final sentence sums you up in a nutshell.

The man(Cain) is a complete and utter fraud. And you would still support him.

Very telling.

Period

pietro - from the BS you posted in 1.84 to greg nice to see that you have such a superior attitude over conservatives. To bad for you that many have the ability to see and analyse both sides, of which you have shown us you can't. Then again FR is a liberal blog which caters and reports with a left, and sometimes extreme left slant.

Please do carry on, you and your fellow libs do entertain me.

BTW to the rest - It is so nice to peruse many of these posts and to see many want to assume guilt based solely on innuendos, unproven accusations (as of now) and conjecture. To bad you libs don't flock to support obama and company as fervently as you want to comment on those you would never vote for. For myself OMG...Obama Must Go...

Wow, 1600 + posts on cains withdrawal...He must have scared the shlt out of the left!

You people disgust me. You have no proof of worngdoing on Cain's part other than allegations from someone who may or may not be lying. What if it turns out he did NOT do these things? All you, be you conservative or liberal or moderate, ought to wait for PROOF before saying these stomach-curdling things about someone who may have be just as well-meaning as you. Please, show some decency towards this man and, above all, grow up!

Hmmmmmm,

I see the Liberal cowards continue to collapse posts ad nauseum.

I wear my above post being collapsed as a badge of honor. Nothing pleases me more than to get in the little pea-brain of some typical Obama sniffer to the point he/she/it collapses my post.

I just ask this. Was it the scathing exposé I gave of the "Great Mistake of 2008" in his lifelong association with Socialists, Marxists, Communists and radical American terrorists? Or was it the Teabaggee association you Libbies so espouse?

Either way it proves once again the cowardice and lack of self-confidence of the lemmings that worship the Saul Alinsky/Cloward-Piven plans of our Campaigner in Chief stumbling around our White House.

Hear yea, oh whiners about Liberals.

Washington was a federalist. Federalists in his time supported the idea of a strong, structured central government. The GOP is not the party of Lincoln but by name only--as he too was a Liberal.

"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
-- George Washington

Oh. My. God.

Are all the right-wing nutjobs that post here really that stupid?

Find a few desperate women; give them some money and they'll say anything. So all the women that came forward lied? All of them? Tinfoil hats...

Its sad that someone who could really do some good for this country was brought down by a bunch of vindictive bitches. No, they didn't lie but they should have kept their mouths shut! He would have made a good president no matter how much of a lying bastard he is.

Congratulations Liberals, you have made your KKK ancestors proud. Ooooh, it was a race thing! Never mind that the man he was campaigning against is black and was lawfully elected by the opposition. It is a race thing and it was done by the opposition. Never mind the fact that Cain himself blamed his conservative rivals.

And my personal favorite...

Conservatives have no chance of fair representation by the Lamestream Liberal media. Of course we never had any such scrutiny of the current trespasser in our White House.

WTF, over? The scrutiny has never stopped! Since long before Obama was elected, his birth certificate, his attendance at Columbia, his grades, who he associated with, the reverend of the church he attended, no wait, he's a Muslim! That's right, the scrutiny isn't even consistent but every bit of it was covered in-depth (and ad nauseam, truth be told) by the Lamestream Liberal media!!

You know, everything except the truth. The truth is, this is all Cain's fault. If he could have kept his pecker in his pants then he wouldn't have had the kind of history that would destroy a campaign, now would he?

The "Party of Family Values" has sunken so low that it's become a joke for hypocrites and carnival barkers. So I've heard that Donald "Birther" Trump will be moderating a Republican Debate.

So Cain's "Nein-Nein-Nein Plan" will be eventually ignored, since all of these sexual allegations against him have surfaced.

And who replaces him as the "Flavor of the Month"? Gingritch, of whom had two mistresses while he was married to two other women. Gingrich had what, 80+ charges of ethics violations ruled against him when he was Speaker of the House?

Damn, the GOP has sunken pretty low. Their brand continues to be tarnished by being represented by these Regressive, Right-Wingers that don't believe in fact-checking their own statements to the Press, nor they believe in checking their credibility when they talk the talk.

notsojingo

The man(Cain) is a complete and utter fraud. And you would still support him.

And you believe the embarrassment we have squatting in our White House is NOT a fraud?

Your hypocrisy is only surpassed by your delusion.

pietro - from the BS you posted in 1.84 to greg nice to see that you have such a superior attitude over conservatives. To bad for you that many have the ability to see and analyse both sides, of which you have shown us you can't. Then again FR is a liberal blog which caters and reports with a left, and sometimes extreme left slant.

Please do carry on, you and your fellow libs do entertain me.

American (numbers) - who knew you were such a comedian.

My 'superiority', as you put it, over Conservatives is YOUR anger misplaced. Heck, I LIKED Herman Cain and wanted him to be successful in his bid for the nomination that he will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER get from the GOP establishment.

So you are mad at ME because I pointed out that these 'candidates' are out to fleece Conservatives of their hard-earned money?

** Pietro on floor laughing uncontrollably**

It seems to me that instead of getting mad at ME, you should be directing your ire at the people who are playing the Conservative base for fools. But, if getting mad at me makes you feel better, knock yourself out.

Carry on!

@ notsojingo - my comments shows my determination not to have someone continue in the job of President who has helped make our country worse off than it was when he took office. Why would you want a person who has done this poorly remain in the position? I would much rather take my chances on someone else than go for a sure fire, continued downward spiral. (I was being polite with some of my word choices in this paragraph. I do respect the Office of President, but not the performance of the person currently serving.)

P.S. since you obviously forgot, Obama didn't have the appropriate background for the office either. He barely was a Senator.

Mark, one of the reasons I support Obama is that he is much, much better than the alternative. I am an atheist. I do not want a bigot who has clear goals of suppressing me to be in office.

This comment was struck down by the community. I really would like to know why. All of the Republican candidates have made clear contempt for the atheist community in the United States, and I have valid ground to call them bigoted.

Your hypocrisy is only surpassed by your delusion.

First off, this comment being from you devalues any ability to have noted I have issues with Obama as well. But your frothing blinds you and those in your bent. And I have posted my issues with President Obama as well, even in this very Herman Cain obituary.

His poor timing to force a half-assed Healthcare Bill thru while the economy was first and foremost damaged by the Iraq debacle(and its hidden costs by the GWB administration), being one I have often pointed out. You only attempt to make references without regard to where the previous group of thieves had truly left us.

And comparing Cain to Obama in ANY manner shows your utmost and hypocritical delusion.

BOTH Parties are complicit in the farce and continuation of the Military Industrial Complex, as well as being owned by MNCs. The Republican Party just does it with such a more vicious aplomb. As you show with your posts. Nuff said.

I can rest may case right there, in fact. Not that I am in any way trying to change your views. That would seem unlikely.

Peace

watching the first few mins of the video. is this guy really using washingtons poor job as a excuse to be a nazi and trying to make himself look justfied??? binladin should of used the same excuse as cain. im glad this shady evil cain is gone. he just couldnt handle the attention and being in the center of attention. guess its not that easy being a evil man. even tho cain is gone it means nothing. our country is still a police state and will only get worse, more strict and more expensive. by 2020 homeless ppl will be excuted and homeless kids will be sentence to life. and we wont be allowed outside the house after 6PM or will be sentence to death. cain is also playing the race card which is funny. hes worse then sharpton and jesse. he says we the people are in charge of this country? you mean the 1 percent are in charge. regular ppl have no voice. im not really a obama fan but we are force to vote him cuz the rest of the canidates are just that bad. thats not a voice. thats not even really a choice.

Cain acknowledged sending money, without his wife’s knowledge, to White. He maintained the two were merely friends, and had never engaged in a romantic relationship.

Well, maybe it wasn't very romantic...maybe it was more lust than love, but the fact Cain admits he gave money to White without telling his wife says it all.

Goodbye, Herman ("her man" ha ha). Your character is sadly lacking, and we won't miss you.

You people disgust me. You have no proof of worngdoing on Cain's part other than allegations from someone who may or may not be lying.

Lord of Truth and Reason (??), you puzzle me. You have no proof of wrongdoing on the part of the women who have accused Cain. His former employer considered the allegations of sexual harassment against Cain and awarded those women large monetary settlements. Ginger White has phone records and bank and travel records to prove what she says. Cain is the one without a leg to stand on here. He may be lying...have you contemplated that possibility? It requires reason to recognize truth.

Wasn't it Rich Perry that brought up the first dirt on Cain after his numbers went down because of what he called his camp? I believe that Cain even stated that Perry owed him an apology at that time. Well I live in PA and as racist as this may sound, its hard to find black honest people in this area. There are some but not many. Now categorization just didn't start yesterday and theres a reason for it even if its wrong. Ok what I'm getting at, is my old italian buddy that moved after his divorce, oh could he lie and do it boldly too. Cain had nothing on him. He got caught red handed with another women and told his ex that it wasn't his fault he was having sex with that women. He thought his wife would understand if he told her that the women challanged his manhood and so he had to have sex with her because he's italian. Yep and I actually thought he got away with it but two months later he got served divorce papers. Yeah I had to hit that after that, but hey she threw herself at me and well I had to accept the challange also. Maybe she just wanted to tell him she had sex with his best friend. LMAO

Cain was doomed when he took the lead in the polls. Let's face it...Cain has more baggage than American Airlines and was never a serious contender to beat Obama. He was there to simply say the things that many TEA party members wanted to hear but white candidates could not say. Call me racist if you wish but it's the truth. The TEA party was getting the peg of being a group of rich white people that were racist so they had to build up a black candidate to "prove" they weren't. Well it backfired on them. He became the leading candidate after Perry's meltdown so they had to destroy the monster they created. You people that want to blame the "liberal media" for his downfall need to look at your own party for Cain's problems.

Cain's epitaph....

"Don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself!"

All I can say at this point is that I wish Herman Cain and his campaign well. Unfortunately, delegates probably aren't going to give him the nomination, but I wish him well just the same. America just isn't ready for a black conservative yet, but Herman Cain has opened the door on that possibility. I'm sure that Americans won't soon forget the likes of Herman Cain. Thank you for having contributed to the political process. You may not get the nomination or even be elected, but you've definitely changed things somehow and for that, I thank you. I wish Herman Cain well in his private life. I hope he has more peace privately than he has had publicly, God knows he's earned it. Good job, just the same.

Obama by himself cannot be blamed for the situation we are in unless you are wearing blinders. It has been the republican aim to see that he would not serve two terms and they would do what was necessary to ensure that end. The hard lines that people are holding here are the same as the ones being held by our elected officials in congress. I blame both, and they need to serve the country and not their own party and financial interess.

Workhorse, good post. I want to believe what you said but I have watched some specials and also have talked to people and I really doubt we'll see a black republican running for POTUS in my life time at least. Now if the black candidate was a real republican then the real blacks won't vote for him. Theres no way a black republican will be able to play both sides of the card and thats why I think it will never happen in this country. Heck there were democrats jumping party when they picked Obama. My guess would be, maybe in 50 yrs someone might see a black republican and well because of Obama winning they just noticed they will have to keep up with the times and they did the math on the nationalities in this country and so they figure, yeah we have to do this too, but it will take them 50 yrs. before they perfect it. They will groom someone real young and ok, lets say 40 yrs from now you just might see it. 35 the soonest. Lol, thats my lowest offer right there, yep, 35 the soonest, thats the lowest I can go, and I real doubt they started grooming anyone yet. The republicans hate blacks. It amazes me that Cain even fell for this if he's a ceo. How in the hell did he become a ceo? This is a good survivor show their putting on. The part I like best, the republicans and tea party don't come in here and comment after one of the flash in the pizza pans goes down for them, they just forget about them and now Newts the man. I want to see the voting this election. Got to find out where this countries people are headed. Hey I have children.

Sandtrich and BTone:

What are you two puffing on?

Comments are way out of context to this subject. Don't even know what both are talking about---are you stuttering?

Don't blame me; you guys are bullies and trollers.

I've noticed that the more dedicated and obsessed a person is about their political affiliation the less intelligent they become. It's almost like a religion with some of you people: your opinion is the only correct one and everyone else that dares disagree with you should be sentenced to an eternity in hell for their blasphemous ideals.

But as soon as a person steps back and gains some objective distance, logic and sanity return. They realize that the politicians and the system try to pit us against one and other so we don't notice that ALL politicians are the same, they are all driven by greed. They are power hungry, corrupt and immoral.

Wake up people and stop acting like you are cheering for your favorite football team. The more we are divided as a nation, the less power we have to change things for the better. As long as we are divided and fighting with each other like school children, the politicians are safe and secure. We are being blindsided and manipulated by a group of very dangerous and powerful people.

Liberal and Conservative ideals are all well and good, but when you're a politician, all the talk and rhetoric is just a smokescreen to get themselves elected. The proof? Conservatives are being caught with their pants down and Liberals are being caught sleeping with big corporations. Time and time again. How much more proof do the American people need to see before they realize that they are being played by ALL the major politicians?

STOP assaulting your fellow Americans and turn your anger towards the REAL enemy.

The reason he is suspending his campaign instead of dropping out is all about the money. There is no real "suspending" a campaign. For legal purposes he is still running for president. So he can continue to take in money, continue to use that money for pretty much anything. If he dropped out of the race, then he would only be allowed to collect enough money to pay off any debt, and then not collect any more money. In the end he will pocket whatever is left.

Who was it, Kerry, or Edwards that actually still has their campaign active from the 2008 election, still spending from the millions in donations and matching tax payer money. They are still spending 3 years after the election is over.

The liberal establishment played this entirely wrong. You wait until he gets the nomination, and then you gather up all the ladies! Now you will get Newt in all likelihood. Not very bright

Dateline: Later on in the Republican Primary election process like a couple of weeks from now.....

Newt Gingrich said Saturday that he is suspending his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, choosing to end his campaign after weathering weeks of scrutiny over alleged sexual misconduct and accusations of an extramarital affair.

It's too bad a GOP candidate that can keep his sex life to himself and his wife; or that isn't completely boring or ignorant; or that changes his mind like a teenage girl; or that isn't completely hated by his own party....apparently does not exist, or can not be found after years of trolling around. For Pete's sake Mr. McConnell and Mr. Boehner, all that any candidate has to be able to do is not be Obama, be a Republican, and they should be able to win it all, right!

Sorry Mitch and John. Your only reason to exist is starting to disappear. Maybe you and your kind should think about moving on so serious people who wish to address the major problems that have been festering in this country and around the planet for the last 50 years, can get down to the business of reorganizing the greatest country on Earth, while there is still time and willpower to do so!

While I do think the media avoided questioning the motivations and stories of the two accusers that came forward (and their actions surrounding their accusations were both highly questionable), S.E. Cupp is got it right. Whether he did do it or did not do it is not ultimately what moved me away from Cain.

I -- for one -- financially supported Cain's fledgling campaign initially because he was not a politician and I wanted to hear what ideas he would add to the mix. I even stood by him after the first debates in which he totally avoided answering foreign policy questions. I continued to like some of his ideas, but eventually it became obvious that he was not prepared at all.

Questions were asked of him that anybody who watched the news regularly would be informed on, yet he seemed to not have much of a clue about the background on those issues. Now, I don't think the President needs to be some policy wonk but he does need to have some general knowledge about important global topics of the day. In the end I had to question why he was in the race because it was apparent that he had no real interest in the things a President needs to be interested in.

I AM glad that he ran. I AM glad that he put tax reform on the table and got people talking about it. I am, however, also glad he decided to ultimately step aside. Good luck in the future Herman.

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Herman forgot the 11th commandment:

"Thou shall not show thy Rod to thy Staff"

I don't know why this was collapsed I thought it was funny!

Al---

Cain is a nobody; in the worst kind of way--so that means, hopefully, the Media and Cable news are done with him.

He cooked himself like a "Pizza"; Flat and cut into pieces. Pathological Liars, Sociopaths---

Lying as with the type of the Wiener Case (D)---will be equal to the attention paid to Cain (R)--He took most of the Public and Cable News for a long ride which is an embarassment to their lack of intuition. Especially marveling at the fact, "Hey, here is a Conservative Black Man running for President".

These guys are predators, and very sick; all men who lead "Double Lives".

So he can continue to take in money, continue to use that money for pretty much anything.

Cain cannot use the money for pretty much anything. There are rules for how campaign funds can be spent...public and private.

Ahh, I guess Cain finally pulled out?

Wonder how many little Cains are running around unfathered and unsupported?

If I were to ever misspell a candidates name it would be Herman Cains. Heime comes to mind Hermie does too, ty FR. Herman Cain lost my vote when he assumed liberals and moderates were stupid. I would have voted for Romney in the Primary simply because of the mans callous attitude.

I must vote republican in the Florida primary because I am registered republican. However in the general election I am voting a straight democratic ticket, unless the GOP shows the TEA Party the door between now and the first Monday in November, and returns to a platform of moderation. I am not going to hold my breath in hopes of such a miracle.

Republican For Obama and proud of it. Obama Biden 2012.

1st time any of my comments have been collapsed by community. Why? Because I dared say that Cain was "effectively destroyed" by Liberal Haters. Does the truth hurt that much lefties? Can't stand the fact that beneath all that intellectual pretentiousness, there lurks the dark Archie Bunker in you all? You have made a mockery of Civil Rights this day. If it is even possible for a Liberal to feel shame, know that you have crucified Herman Cain politically and almost certainly destroyed his marriage and family life. Haters.

Live in the Twilight zone?? Cain is a serial philanderer who is trying to get elected on the back of a moral stance (ie GOP platform). This is hypocritical to say the least, and when he gets called on it, numbskulls like you blame the liberals. Quite frankly you are a fool.

It could be that your post was collapsed because it was devoid of any value. A better question might be to ask why all of your posts aren't collapsed.

How stupid does one have to be to be like Cain? Did he really expect such allegations would not come out when he is running for presidency?!!

The Republican candidates seem to be competing for being stupid number 1.

Hello. Sarah? I need to repaint my bus. Anyone you can recommend?

I still have books to sell. Can we share a room at our next stop?

Of course you can trust me!! Just ask Gloria. Everything will be fine.

Hey Rustyboy - I LOVE your avatar! ;o)

If he suspends he then can collect money . The money goes toward his divorce !! Gotta pay off MAMA for not singing stand by your man .....

bob

@ bob1/28 - Well, yes, your assessment about Cain being able (pun intended) to continue getting $$$ makes sense, I just don't see him actively campaigning anymore.

Here is a question for all of you Cain supporters, who left him over his infidelity and are now supporting Newtie.

WHY?

@newday

Newt marries his mistresses - Hermie didn't.

@ newday - What I don't understand is why anyone who isn't a millionaire would vote for any republican.

phinephancy-4252115

Newt marries his mistresses - Hermie didn't.

LOL, true, we need to give the brother credit for just keeping it on the low low and not dragging his scandal to the white house with him.

If he wins, he'll be the first president to ultimately make a mistress a first lady.

Knowing NEWT, he prolly told his 1st, and then 2nd wife that they weren't first lady material... and then he went for the blondie - buying her half of Tiffany store.

I'm just waiting for his next affairs to come out, since he's currently being so patriotic... he would have have to get some on the sde to keep his stress down.

Because republicans actually have common sense...

Once this wife gets cancer he'll trade her in for another one.

Herman Cain himself admitted to giving Ginger White money (always in cash), and that his wife Gloria knew nothing about his friendship with Ms. White or that he gave money to her. This in itself makes the affair SO undisputable that Cain will not be able to reenter the race. He is simply trying to milk what ever he can from the rest of his book tour and speaking circuit "campaign."

Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain - Four down (five if we add Palin), Gingrich is next... The Teapublican Party needs to just forfeit 2012 and spend a lot of alone time to reflect on how their platform and Party sunk so low.

Newsday DAWNING....RETIRED

That is an easy question to awnser . Most of these red necks if forsyth county georgia . Dummys still think he is looking out for them . Transplanted new yorker .

bob

If Mr. phinephancy ever got so "patriotic", he wouldn't have anything to be patriotic with!! What's up with some of the political wives anyway (on both sides of the aisle)? I just don't get it. (well, only I get "it" - I don't share)

Couple of good answers! Thanks phinephancy and My 2cent$. Bob, they may indeed be thinking that Newtie will look out after them. Which is silly.

Tunde: I can't picture Callista as FL. Just can't.

@my2cent$ - Why would anyone who isn't a millionaire vote for any democrat. I don't understand the stupidity of people who blame just one party. OMG, both parties are horrible!!! The men in both parties cheat on their wives. Look what Edwards did, look what Clinton did, look what Newt did, look what Cain did. Just horrible.

I wish my dad could run for President. He's been a faithful married man for 60 years. Very smart too. He would lose though because 1) he's lower middle class and 2) he is too clean and not corrupted.

HE GETS MATCHING FEDERAL FUNDS IN JANUARY!!! It's all about the money...OUR MONEY!!! If he drops out, he doesn't get the cash. Bastard...

And how much does any one want to bet that:

"I am not going to be silenced, and I am not going away," he defiantly told disappointed supporters.

Ms. Cain did silence him and she will make him go away.

Is his campaign fund still open? i feel bad for him but strangely not at all interested in reading his book, glad he was dressed to the nines, now i think he could use 9 new cell accounts (personal of course), and it's also impressive how he stopped on 9/10'ths of a dime, Lol Suspend, actually he stopped a nickel short of a dime, should have quit along time ago.

And I guess all you folks believed the sexual harassment claims levelled at Obama when he was running?

That's what I thought...

Good, I'm glad he's gone, for good I hope. I can't bare to see another Clinton or Edwards type perv in the WH.....

Truthmachine,he is probably test driving a new model as we speak.

Just one small point here - the Dems do not run as the bastion of Christian Family Values, that is all on the Hypocrites, I mean GOP.

Anyone who listens to the main stream media on this is STUPID!! where do you get off making judgments that you cannot prove. Don't you realize that this is smear tactics, not truth!! Liberals do this all the time. right out of the saul olinsky book on rules for radicals. The problem is that they have no business getting away with it. He has really good attorneys, they will see right through the lies. your wishes that he drop out of the race is purely that, a wish... GOOD LUCK, your days of supporting liars is over.

@ Jo Ann - the republican party has a reputation for catering to the rich. I seem to recall that conservatives/republicans tend to refer to democrats as socialists. Which is it, democrats are pro-rich, or pro welfare/socialism? Can't have it both ways...

And in the grand scheme, either party can be held accountable for various unsavory things. I was merely stating an opinion.

You, however, resort to name-calling. How very original.

999 plan that Bachman called the 666 plan when for 13 years it was apparently the 69 plan.

Repubs rotate to the top of the polls then down again like a freaking ferris wheel.

earl-144 etc.

EEwwWW- That s so rude on so many levels. I believe it's at least a hat trick.

He is done toast . Just stick a fork in it , Its done.

Praying not going to get you out of this jam.

A sugar Daddy for 13 years What else has he paid for?

Is she singing she is going to cut his dick off?

My 2 cents, the liberals have tagged the Republican party as pro rich people. Why they can't look at the Democratic party and see the same traits is beyond Me ! My gosh, look in Mr Obama's cabinet. Most the people there came from Goldman's after they got thier huge bonus's for running the company into the dirt. Can You say Timmy Geithner ? George Soros is His biggest backer, I don't think He is poor, and then He gives 500 million to solandra to pay back His buddy there and they bankrupt, and Us poor people have to eat that. So come on, lets start cleaning them out one at a time, till We really get some people that care about the common folks.

Talk about pussy power, it can take you up and it can take you down.

Now, if Herman would "suspend " his womanizing. Poor old Candy Cain!

Next, my hope is, all of the Republican candidates, would suspend their attempts, to ruin our country and the middle class.

We have a President in place, who would be able, to effectively turn our lack of jobs and declining economy around. Unfortunately, the Tea Party led Republicans are more loyal to the wealthy, than the middle class. After their double whammy last week, of voting "NO" because they did not want to extend, the Bush tax cuts to the middle class only.

President Obama has said the congress will not go home until, they find a solution to helping the middle class. In the end, the Republicans will get the tax cuts for the Kochs brothers and their ilk, by attaching their demands, to a bill, the President can sign, without congressional approval.

I have lived in this country for sixty-six years. I have never seen our country more divided or been more fearful of of it's future.

Herman Cain is just hoping that all of us will forget in time what kind of person he really is. He will "resuscitate" his campaign 6 months from now.

Don't worry. I am sure that some other women will come forward at that time to talk about Herman having an affair with them, or something of that nature.

I'm pourin' a 40 for my Republi@!$%# homies....in honor of you Hermie....9 ounces at a time.

@ joel - OK, your point is well made.

Soros is indeed rich beyond most of us not-so-rich peoples comprehension. However, besides that, he's also a philanthropist who's given tons of money to charitable causes.

The Koch brothers could also be seen as philanthropists (I see their name many times on PBS shows when they show the names of contributors), but Koch industries have also (allegedly) exported oil refining tech to Iran at a time when Iran was under sanctions, which is ILLEGAL.

So, Soros (may be) backing Obama (can't confirm or deny). Koch bro's backed Cain (fact). So, who's got YOUR back?

Oh, yeah, please drop the Solyndra thing. It's gotten old. Every administration has made mistakes, but people who keep hanging onto the Solyndra thing seem to fail to remember Haliburton.

Sorry, Halliburton was the last administration, I thought We were talking about today! That is the point I'm trying to make though. This goes way beyond party lines, they are all for the rich! The common Man can't feed these politicians the money they need to ensure richness and the power they crave. We somehow have to get lobbying barred from politics. Until that happens everyone can continue to argue over Republican or Democrat, and nothing will ever change!

@ joel - Well, we agree that the lobby needs to be banned.

You brought up Solyndra, I brought up Haliburton as a counter-point. Current administration, former administration, does it really matter?

I would guess that we both also agree that greed is the problem.

Truce?

Joel & My2cent$

Now you are talking. The base of both the Republican and Democratic parties, need to realize, many of our politicians are in the "game" for power and money. I know many Republicans, ( family and friends) who have the same views as I do. We were raised by parents, who were solidly behind either party. Back then, there was not such a difference in the parties.Both parties were for all Americans. As lobbyists and wealthy contributors gained more influence over politicians, we the base of both parties have been ignored. In other words, we have been sold out by the people we elect.

There are very few politicians who remain representatives for the middle class. I believe Congress woman Marcy Kaptur is one of those, who cares about her constituents and our country. She is a Democrat. Congress man Delbert Latta was another example of a loyal politicians. He was a Republican. His son Robert however has been an advocate of tax cuts for the wealthy and he has misled he party by lies and teleconferences, during the last election, in November.

My point is, we the middle class need to educate ourselves, on the voting records and their contributors of the people who want to represent us. Thanks to the Supreme Courts ruling. to allow corporations, to freely contribute to political campaigns, without disclosing who and how much they are giving the money, we have our work cut out for us.

Until all middle class Americans, stop fighting and bickering about little issues and self serving iidiologies, we will lose any power we have, to gain our rights and civil liberties back.

In Michigan, the new governor has attempted to take over cities, he deemed irresponsible. One of those cities was Flint Michigan. The citizens of Michigan, were able to stop, the governor from taking power from these cities by obtaining enough signatures, to put a hold on his "self made power."

Here in Ohio, governor Kasich (of FOX News) from eliminating collective bargaining. Again it was the middle class people who obtained the signatures, to get a repeal of Kasichs law, on a ballot. Issue No 2, was overwhelmingly overturned.

I have NEVER been a member of a union. I have heard a lot of the problems with unions but for the most part, they have been beneficial to the middle class.

In Canton Ohio, home of Cooper tires, the union gave many concessions to Cooper tire, because the company was in financial difficulty. That was about three years ago. This summer Cooper Tires locked out those dame union members and are now hiring people for minimum wage. Cooper tires had a billions dollar profit last year. If anyone thinks this is fair or decent, buy Cooper tires, made by inexperienced workers. Let your children and grand children ride in your cars, with possibly defective tires. As for me, I will boycott Cooper tires and any other company I learn of, that has sold out their loyal employees!

Instead of arguing on there posts, we middle class Americans need to write about factual atrocities that are happening in our part of the country. Anyone can look up Canton Ohio, Cooper tires. Or Michigan's governor attempt to over throw local governments.

Whether you are a "Republican or a Democrat", now is the time for the middle class to abandon our parties and work together to end the real issue, the !1% against the 99%. We can take our country back by educating ourselves with the facts and not believing thew hype.

Judy, RN

@ Take that back - aka Judy, RN

Great post. I tend to lean towards the political left myself, but overall I agree 100%.

This is more than a partisan thing. This is an American thing, and the people at the highest tiers of politics are fully aware of this, and, IMO, are taking full advantage of the bickering you allude to.

Hi my2cent$,

Perhaps, if you don't mind, we could develop your concept that republicans care for the rich and that democrats care for...well, the non-rich. For the sake of argument let's agree you are right. And, for the sake of argument, can we agree that both republicans and democrats seeking office want to be elected and re-elected.

All that said, why would democrats ever pursue policies which would make voters wealthier since with more wealth voters will more likely, you think, vote republican? And why would republicans, conversely, ever pursue policies to make voters poorer knowing that poorer voters vote for democrats? You see, your particular conclusion, that the rich vote for republicans (which you of course meant in a way to demonize republicans) also means, if logic is important to you at all, that democrats want you poor, perhaps even dependent. Or do I have your wisdom out of context?

Hi back Rich - For sake of NO argument, yes, we agree that both republicans and democrats seeking office want to be elected and re-elected.

I'm not going to slam you at all for your observation, you clearly seem to be a level-headed guy.

I only wished to point out that republicans seem to (IMO) have the interests of the wealthiest citizens at heart.

Why, you ask, would democrats ever pursue policies which would make voters wealthier since with more wealth voters will more likely, you think, vote republican?

Honestly, I can't answer your question in the context you presented it. However, I can say that it does not appear to me that the republican party has the interests of the not-so-rich at heart. This is merely my perception.

Hope that answered your question.

I see a lot of right-leaning (or falling) posts talking about corruption, lying and dishonesty, lobbying, 'for the rich,' paid off, corporate-owned government, bailouts, etc. I really honestly cannot figure out how you can continue voting republican with that attitude. Just look at the record and the facts and stop listening to fox spews. I swear. Just a couple of really telling things here:

The right-wings of the supreme court made a decision a few years ago that IT WAS ALLOWABLE FOR GOVERNMENT CANDIDATES TO OUTRIGHT LIE TO US. WTF?! I personally don't accept this as an "ok" thing. Do you?

Then that same group of right-wingers decided to it was ok for corporations to donate money to campaigns. Talk about allowing corporations to buy our government! Literally! Right Wing did this. Not the left. Look it up.

LOOK IT UP and stop spewing bull@!$%#. Facts are facts and you cannot change them. The democrats have, for years, attempted to reign that @!$%# in.

And BTW- Newt is a freakin self-described heroin addict. Do you know what oxy's are? heroin folks. heroin. and you worry about a bj.

rich and my2cent$ - As a former registered democrat and currently registered republican I don't see the republican agenda as one of supporting the wealthy as the left suggests and I sure don't see the left as honestly wanting to look after the interests of the poor, elderly and now middle class.

If you want to see what the rights opinions on tax increases are, why not have obama and company start promoting that all of the obama (bush) tax cuts be allowed to expire in 2013? With an estimated increase in revenue over ten years being $3.5 trillion. Tie into that similar cuts in current government outlays would be a boost for all Americans. Would the right be against raising taxes across the board as well?

When you all retire you can peruse all the tax code changes that have been made over time and realize that both the L & R have supported them. After all their will always be someone who can sell snake oil to someone else.

Rich, While your argument sounds sane, alas, it is an oversimplification which indeed puts the issue out of context. Nice try though!

Someone posted, why would anyone vote republican if they weren't a millionaire? Well a few posts down someone answered that post by saying, because republicans have common sense. Ok if the answer wasn't a joke, can you please explain that to me? Republicans have common sense? Maybe like Dubya did? LMAO. Well this flash in the pizza pan is gone and now its newts turn. Ok, Newt isn't a dummy, he stayed quiet for the most part when the debates started and now he's coming into his own and not doing too bad, if you don't count his last remark that poor peoples children have no role models to learn good work ethics from. It seemed like he wanted to teach poor peoples children how to work. Give them jobs where a role model is involved and they will help teach them good work ethics. Beautiful. I guess the children might learn something from the role models, because most of their parents are working two, three jobs just trying to feed the children and pay the bills. Yeah newts a good one alright. This country is in big, big trouble if he becomes POTUS. I might really have to move, but where? Theres not a country out there now that dosen't hate Americans after Dubya had his go at it. Dubya made it where you can't even leave the country now, so now your damned if you do or damned if you don't. Bummer. Decisions, decisions.

American:

I would gladly give up the Bush tax cuts if it means the wealthy 1% paid their fair share. It will cost me about 800 dollars a years for the tax cuts to end. So have at it! Of course, a those families whose pay checks have flat lined, it would be a blow to their income status.

Please read my post above. Middle class Americans need to eliminate the Republican and Democratic parties, all together and join forces against corrupt politicians and their big money supporters. This should not be about middle class Americans against middle class Americans. It has to be about equalizing the distribution of wealth and creating jobs. It has to be about, giving the middle class purchasing power, so we can buy Made In the USA products.

The middle class needs to have affordable education and affordable housing.

I did all the right things eight years ago. I paid 20% down on my home at a 7% rate on my loan. Soon after, the hospice were I was an RN case manager, began denying the staff increases in wages. My colleagues and I received no raise, for four years and our gas mileage reimbursement was lowered, as well. My 403b began to drop, due to the stock market and I had to stop paying into the 403b because I had no extra to invest.

No here's the clincher, I made the mistake of getting sick. I went through my sick hours and then my 403b. My last option was to take out a home equity loan. That's when my home was valued at less than I owed! The bank would not even consider decreasing my 7% interest rate. I retired at the age of 65 because, after more than forty years of nursing, I was not able to keep up with the stress of nursing.

Tell me American what did I do to deserve loosing everything I had planned to live on? I worked, did not miss work for many years, except when I had got ill. There are millions of stories just like mine, of hard working people, who have watched their saving disintegrate or even worse, lost their jobs because of NAFTA and corporate greed. Most Americans are hard working, dedicated and giving citizens who believed in the "American Dream."

Tax loopholes, politicians willing to take money from the wealthy, rather than help the middle class and jobs losses, that have created the decline of the middle class. You may have not have experienced any financial losses American, but if the middle class, continues to decline, you may be next. I thought my nursing job, would afford me a comfortable retirement. That is a joke. I am currently going through chemotherapy and radiation. My co-pays have caused me to have credit card debt. I have NEVER had a credit card, I was not able to pay off monthly. I am not a "dead beat" but simply a soon to be a a debtor, who most likely will loose my home. My entire career has been rewarding because I loved providing TLC to the many patients, I was privileged to tend to. Now, people like Newt Gingrich are telling me, I should take a shower and get a job.

I say all the Newts in this country should be stopped. The middle class needs to occupy and protest , not as Republicans or Democrats but, as united Americans.

@ Joe-1072601 - It was I who posed the issue of why would anyone vote republican if they weren't a millionaire? I did not respond to the poster who made the "common sense" post because I've learned to spot trolls, and that person was, IMO, trolling.

@ Take that back - Once again, I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. Partisan politics are ruining this country.

Night-night.

Like I said, Cain accomplished what he set out to do.

MAKE MOOLAH~!!!!! AND GET SOME MORE ACTIONS ON THE SIDE.

He's gonna milk this to the last drop - just like Palin.

He's gonna milk this to the last drop - just like Palin.

Great white North Observer - you are EXACTLY right. Don't you see the parallels in how these guys are fleecing their Conservative base?

Sarah Palin did a 'book tour' and was stumping to be President. She decided not to go through the process, but KEPT THE MONEY.

Hermie the Clown has SUSPENDED his campaign, and if some other posters are right, he will get MATCHING FEDERAL FUNDS for his campaign. Then I guess he could shut it down if he wanted to.

The Sperminator's ego will NEVER allow for him to 'fail', especially when he is running for President. I guess time will tell as to what really happens, but I have a feeling that the Sperminator will become a real pain the the GOP establishment's azz.

Great white North Observer - you are EXACTLY right. Don't you see the parallels in how these guys are fleecing their Conservative base?

Sarah Palin did a 'book tour' and was stumping to be President. She decided not to go through the process, but KEPT THE MONEY.

Hermie the Clown has SUSPENDED his campaign, and if some other posters are right, he will get MATCHING FEDERAL FUNDS for his campaign. Then I guess he could shut it down if he wanted to.

I'd love to see a Fleecing of America report on that, if there isn't one already.

or Newt for that matter who committed adultery..

Everybody goes back to President Clinton, but you still Newt and Vitter is still in the Senate. Get off the former President's jock and find another horse to ride.

Or Newt for that matter with a bunch of ethics violations that lost him his speakership! Oh yes--he paid his way out of most of them, but was still kicked out!

Cain's choice of words "suspend" his campaign makes me wonder what else he might be planning.

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

I don't know how he started a campaign with his total lack of knowledge and arrogance that he didn't need to know.

Clinton was nearly 20 years ago. There was a day when public figures could actually have a private life. Not anymore. Herman should have known this before he threw his big mac daddy pimp hat in the ring. You would've thought that maybe the Republicans might have tipped him off.

Sonya in Tx

Ah, so there is the rub, apprently Bill Clinton was smarter than Herman cain. Herman Cain is smart like a sneaky Rat, Bill Clinton was smart like a Rhodes Scholar, BIG difference.

Read my lips: No new NEO-CONS!

Think Hermie will go back to giving sermons in his church? Can't wait to hear the first one on the commandment - Thou shalt not get caught commiting adultery! (GOP revisionist commandment - like the history books they put out)

He was never a serious ccandidate, he was a Palin clone, wanted higher speaking fees and to sell his dumb book and maybe just maybe get a job at Fox. Don't think that is gonna happen now. Bad Boy, Bad Boy.

Better examples would be McCain and Gingrich, and if you must find a Dem then John Edwards is more apples-to-apples. But as stated many times, the bigger issue is Republican hypocrisy since they run on "family values." Even Rudy Giuliani admits this is why he will never be the GOP candidate. So enough with the "You think (fill in the blank) is bad, what about Clinton?" BS -- That dog don't hunt no more. Gingrich is the biggest douche-bag of them all!

Unhappy-1583758 -- Ginger White was a mistress of a wealthy man, probably one of several extra-marital relations Cain had. Crikey, she wan't walking the street selling herself to any John who came along. The story was being leaked so she came out with it on her own.

hey Sonya,

What about John (creepy) Edwards? My God his girlfriend was pregnant when he was running all around the country.

No more morally bankrupted slime balls in the WH please!!!

Cain's first problem was his lack of Domestic and Foreign Policy knowledge. Then add numerous claims of sexually unwanted advances (and two payouts) against him. (He semi-admits outside of the Pizza Industry, he's had no complaints. I guess the one's in the Industry didn't count).

When Cain was exposed, he blamed Perry, then Romney, and finally the Democrats. This guy was in WAY over his head from the start. That's not even including the 13 year affair, that recently came out. His arrogance of thinking he could out smart the public by hiding his skeletons, was foolish.

When an Individual has that many unfavorable secrets that could destroy their Career as him, the last thing they should do is run for President. Edwards is a perfect example. He couldn't get elected the local Dog Catcher these days....

You liberals never change, when Clinton committed adultry all of you made excuses for him saying "everybody does it." Even "NOW" didn't condone Clinton (They even defended him and half of them would have jumped in bed with him if they had the chance.) the difference is we don't condone Cain if the alligations are true and don't condone Newt. That's the difference between liberals and Conservatives.

He will send the money back.

Yeah, right.

He is not Hillary Clinton.

yea right, he isn't gonna give a damn penny back...and IF he tries to claim he's going to give it back, he'll use something along the lines of "I made a Grand Donation to the _____— Foundation in the names of the American People!"...Cain just came into the limelight for his 15wks of fame (haha) so he could rape more money from the poverty stricken...The whole US Gov't is nothing but a cesspool, the congress is bought and the president is just a face (or puppet if you will, notice after he got elected and actually found out how corrupt it is his demeanor changed and he lost all of his enthusiasm b/c he knows everything is rigged dem or repub. they're all in collusion), merely another puppet that elitist's can coerce to enforce their will. Until all american's realize the gov't isn't there for 'we the people' and try to change it (i.e. Revolution), nothing will change except America will no longer be a democracy (not that it is anyway). Start saying your goodbyes to your constitutional rights...

Someone please correct me if I am wrong but, I do recall when Anthony Weiner resigned, the subject came up regarding his "treasure chest" of campaign funds. I believe that I heard that these funds must be kept separately and they can be kept for a future run for office. There may be a specific amount of time, not sure about that but the other alternatives that a politician has are to return the money or donate it to other candidates. So no, I don't think that they can just keep it for themselves. That would just open up a whole new legal problem, just ask John Edwards.

fayse - Finally. An intelligent response.

With Approval Ratings In The 60s, Hillary Clinton Is Our Most Popular Living Politician

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/approval-ratings-60s-hillary-clinton

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No, Hillary Clinton is the most admired political figure in the USA, and that makes you a sad and bitter person out on the fringes of normal thought....The Obama Campaign fund helped pay off her debt as is the norm...

*cough* Hillary 2012 *cough*

Bustem, perfectly stated!

yea Bustem and Joe!

Yeah! Yeah yeah yeah!! Yeah!!!

(Picture little dog running along with his tongue out hoping to get a Milk Bone for being a good doggie)

Yeah!

Deb W, I was wondering the same thing, also wondering if the Plan B was another way to swindle money for himself and Gloria...anyone know?

Palin did it, why not Cain?

Ahetch

You are a 100% liar. Check the records,all excess contributions were returned. Unlike Hillary and Obama. Check it out before you start spewing your lies.

Agree with Tiger

You are a 100% liar. Check the records, all excess contributions were returned.

Returned?? To be returned they had to be collected in the first place, exactly as the comment you are referring to states - "he can still collect campaign donations."

That would technically make your "100% liar" accusation 100% totally innaccurate. Welcome to the club, the one you were better than!

True

I wonder how much the democrats paid her to come out with this story. I bet he regrets giving her all that money over the years. I think this is more about a woman scorned than anything else. She said he left her when he started running for the GOP and realized that her "friends with benefits" relationship wouldn't continue. As for her saying she regrets having to hurt his wife, that's all crap. You don't publicly humiliate someone like that unless you want revenge.

He needs to go find another video game to get his "next idea" from

@Unhappy

You better look to Karl Rove or Mike Huckabee for the source of Mr. Cain's outing. And for the record, Hermie brought his troubles on himself by not keeping his sausage on the pizza!

Unhappy-1583758

There you go, I love the way you Republican's puff out your chest and say, "Lefties have lost their moral compass and have morally bankrupt this country". Yet, when one of your own does this exact thing you defend them tooth and nail. What a bunch of hypocritical buffoons you guys are. Makes all you guys look like fools.

Republicans are fools by definition: narrow minded, stupid, phony, lying, hypocrites. Besides that they are ok.

@Unhappy

You certainly named yourself correctly! Bitter, uninformed or small minded would have worked just as well. As far as "outing" Mr. Cain, I'd have to agree with @phinephancy, his own party was clearly embarrassed by his antics and his campaign and found a way to put an end to it. Plus, how much must Gloria Cain put up with to please the small percentage of voters in a clearly loosing effort.

LOL, so true, love it and I'm a republican.

I love the way all You Democrats talk about the Republicans and what the party has come to. Although I must admit, the government is broken, niether party is worth spitting on. But, You Democrats elect a Idiot like Obama, that is so far out there, hell He hung out with terrorist, and burned American flags, that You put the Republicans right back in office, just because of Your stupidity! You saw it in the 2010 elections, and it's going to be a lot worse in 2012. Next time You might want to consider a more moderate candidate, like one that has had a job!

umm, joel: when did YOUR President Obama burn a flag? And when did YOUR President Obama not have a job? And when was YOUR President Obama not a moderate?

Turn off Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh and start reading something edifying.

JoAnn I envy you your dad. Wish mine had been like him.

It is annoying to see one after the other Obama Hater come here and continue to ignore what a POS Cain is, was and will continue to be, while taking swipes at Obama who has continued with most of your Boy George's Policies, tax cuts, wars/schedules, 'Terrorists' eliminations, Oil Drilling and permissions/expansions, Patriot Act(s), and allowing FEDs to go after and over states' rights regarding Medical Marijuana(for example), not stopping illegal aliens from coming in, continuing the Drug War(unwinnable), etc.

President Obama turns out to be much better of a man than any of you speaking against him. Despite my own concerns with the above. But he has played his role perfectly, which is all he has been allowed to.

Herman Cain, not so much. He has just proved out to be a fraud and sad excuse for an alternative black candidate.

Dem or Rep isn't the issue. The government over-reaches its bounds on issues that restrict our liberties, the media drives division between Americans for profit. Greedy, self-involved, scandalous reality show administrations pose as government. You can continue to war against each other post after post which changes nothing or just have another civil war so some can lose and some can win and drive news stories no one wants to listen to. Or we can stop whining and start thinking about limiting government, putting money back in our pockets where it belongs and living our own uniquely individual and diverse lives. Government isn't our parent, catering to the child who throws the biggest tantrum. Government does what we as individuals cannot - and that really isn't supposed to be that much. Americans from types of backgrounds can come together and make things work. Vote for a candidate who thinks that way, has the experience, proven dedication, transparency to do the job. Pick someone. Let the rest of the argument go.

Sure gonna miss Herman. He was so entertaining.

His success before he stepped on his ***** exemplifies the secret desires of the radical right. They crave intemperate, outrageous and inflammatory proclamations delivered by a charismatic preacher type.

Kinda like the aging spinsters secretly craving the wild sexy fling they never had.

@matt

He might have been able to get away with the womanizing with the electorate (not sure about Mrs. Cain putting up with it), however, he was just so darn dumb about everything else. His knowledge of foreign affairs - long pause, - um - still long pause - well, I'll get back to you on that.

The ones who are going to miss him the most are the comedians.

Sending a sympathy card to Jon Stewart today.

At least he took time to collect his thoughts. I guess thats better the the one that can't talk without a teleprompter and thinks we have 52 states?

Yes, and what profound insight he gave after collecting those thoughts. Nice try

Gee, I wonder where he had to go to collect his thoughts, under that red porchlight where he could see them?

And poor ole Hermie didn't even get a chance to do his "Fam'ly Valyahs" speech. Tsk tsk tsk.

There's another one nobody will miss.

Very well put. Why would anyone support this liar? It's obvious to everyone that so many woman wouldn't be making up stories about him. He should at least be a man and admit what he did.

Were you there in the bedroom with them? How do you know anything!

I think "suspending" his campaign is proof enough. What other politician would end their campaign over a "false" accusation if nothing happened? Now he has more time to grope women who want nothing to do with him.

What you don't realize others are involved. He has a family just like you might have. Everyone does not react the same way in certain situations. So please don't expect him to.

Bustem, the midol are in the second drawer. Why don't you take some and have a beer. It is Saturday afternoon, after all. Might settle you down some. Or Prozac. That helps Rebaggers like you.

Nothing can help losers like that!

Don't sink to their name-calling level. Most of the time they join these conversations just to bait the intelligent contributors into irrelevant, unrelated nonsense. Don't do it!!

Bustem

"I can tell your a dumbacrap when you can't even spell field!"

"Your" is a possessive. It implies ownership.

"You're" is a contraction of you are. These are frequently used words, at least in Standard American English. Please count me as a dumbacrap if your level of articulation constitutes the alternative. See how I used "your"? Read peer-reviewed journals instead of watching television for your information and you may also learn the difference.

Thanks guys for sticking up for me there. Yeah, I was in a hurry when I wrote that, and I didn't get the chance to look over it again before I posted. My main point was that Cain and a bunch of other candidates made the GOP candidate field look much less serious (with Gingrich and Romney the only ones with a serious chance against Obama).

I do not correct grammar, unless someone is questioning someone else's intelligence. Then I feel it is appropriate, as well as fun. I have also made a few typos.

The problem was obviously that Cain was too monogamous if they drop him for Newt.

Mark L...if they aren't true, why hasn't he sued these women for slander??? because he can't...they aRe true

Right on, Kevin. Well said.

Just keep your hands off my mushrooms! :)

The only difference between Herman and Failin' Sarah Palin is the color of their skin. Other than that, you can call them dumb and dumber, but that goes for any Conservative right wing NUT!

Boss Hogg for president instead then.

Well I think your wrong Ed I'm not. But as for these women they aren't even a person on the face of this planet. They are a big nothing.

Cain's foreign country knowledge outside of the planet he lives on, was to talk about "becky, becky, beckystan. Really?...You want this kind of knowledge handling foreign affairs ? Has no clue about any foreign country! He must have been thinking about the women he was going to cheat on his wife with that night.

From a registered independent:

To my2cent$ and others - the reason non-millionaires vote repubilcan is for one (or both) of two reasons: abortion and gun control. The republicans need those to items to keep the middle and lower-class under their thumb. If abortion was ever outlawed, they'd have no money coming in from the religious-based followers of the party. The false accusations of gun control/2nd amendment repeal are exactly the same - without abortion and gun control, they just couldn't raise enough money to be viable.

Again, why people continue to vote against their own best interests is mindboggling. Ponderous - f'ing ponderous.

Starsailing, His knowledge would be a step up from the present occupier of the whitehouse. He doesn't even know how many states are in the u.s.

joel

You lie!! Obama is extremely intelligent and clearly knows his stuff, from national to international affairs. He knows the details about every important matter. Obama's profound abilities is the reason he was able to show up the republican senators and congressman in a televised meeting he had with them. The republicans came across as morons with Obama as the only adult in the room.

You need to immediately apologize for your lie and admit that its the republicans whose knowledge is lacking.

Do you get the tingle up your leg when you see Obama like Chris Matthews does? You think it's wise foreign policy to turn your back on Israel? What has Obama done that makes him the adult in the room? He's unfit to be president. The Obama recession is crushing our prosperity yet somehow he's your hero. He befriends our enemies and turns his back on our allies. What is wrong with you leftists? Why do you encourage the failure of the USA?

moneyyos

You lie! Obama saved the American auto industry, to name just one of the important things he has done as president. Even conservative economists credit Obama with staving off another great depression. You seem to have forgotten that its a republican recession that trashed the country so deeply that it simply is going to take some time before things get better. The republicans intentionally trashed the economy so they could make way with their austerity arguments. Their trashing of the economy was cynical -- it helped the rich but the republicans are doing everything they can to make sure that its the middle class that pays for it.

I recall 6 years of prosperity during the GWB years, then Pelosi and Reid took over and everything fell apart..How many years does Obama need? He seems to be intentionally standing in the way of recovery. Maybe if we keep spending massive amounts, we'll get out of debt...

sheesh....what's best for your family!?! what would be best would be for you to keep your pants zipper closed!

GWB's reign was paid for by charging his debt to the future and the costs of his tax plans to the middle class. We are now having to pay for this Republican spending. (why is it that republicans complain about federal spending but run up the debt every time they get in) Unfortunately Obama has had to follow this idiot. Now he is saddled with also trying to clean up the deregulation of the financial markets that took republicans 50 years to undo. He has to start tio undo the transfer of resources to the corporatin that even Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell. Beware the military industrial complex. They will try to take over our country. The Republicans led by idiots like Mitch McConnell are destroying our democy in DC while idiotds like the gevenors on the south ruin their states and the lives of the citizens and say they are doing it in ther name of freedom. Enough with them.

moneyos1

"I recall 6 years of prosperity during the GWB years, then Pelosi and Reid took over and everything fell apart..How many years does Obama need? He seems to be intentionally standing in the way of recovery. Maybe if we keep spending massive amounts, we'll get out of debt..."

Moneyos1: Purchase a calendar.

For further use: Effect cannot precede cause. Use this principle to evaluate arguments. For instance, since repeal of Glass Steagall occurred prior to widespread speculation and subsequent collapse of financial systems, one could argue that the repeal caused the collapse.

Similarly, implementation of both of Gramm's financial deregulation bills resulted in a boom and then a collapse of banking, first in Texas, then nationwide. The taxpayer bailed out the institutions both times.

This principle can also be used to predict future behavior and make conclusions. For instance, widespread deregulation results in volatile markets, and has always done so. This is an argument based upon historical data.

The following is not:

I hate Nancy Pelosi, therefore I am an economist and she caused all economic problems not expressly caused by Barack Obama, and all liberals are communists.

joel-989818

"Starsailing, His knowledge would be a step up from the present occupier of the whitehouse. He doesn't even know how many states are in the u.s."

Herman Cain does know that we have 50 states. His favorite is named biddy-biddyistan, and from that state, you can watch him sexually harass Sarah Palin in Russia while avoiding estate tax.

"I recall 6 years of prosperity during the GWB years, then Pelosi and Reid took over and everything fell apart..How many years does Obama need? He seems to be intentionally standing in the way of recovery. Maybe if we keep spending massive amounts, we'll get out of debt..."

If I stopped paying my bills, kept spending money like drunk Sailor on a three day pass.... I could guarantee that I would have a prosperous, good time too.

After those 6 years - its the next guys problem. The only flaw was the crap started hitting the fan - before he left office. Opps - he said... " I only missed it by "that much".

Beowolf you have not a clue what you are talking about, your watching too much of the idiot show, see below.

SURVEY FOX
NEWS

By Eric Boehlert

The release this week of yet another survey indicating the
more you watch Fox News the less they know, has once again shone a spotlight on
one of the unique features that defines Rupert Murdoch's cable news outlet - it
is very, very good at misinforming people. And it's very bad at reporting the
news. In other words: Propaganda? Yes. News? Not so much

What's stunning is how many different areas of the news and
public policy Fox viewers are misinformed about. For instance, the Fairleigh
Dickinson survey asked viewers about recent grassroots uprisings in Arab
nations [emphasis added]:

For example, people who watch Fox News, the most popular of
the 24-hour cable news networks, are 18-points less likely to know that
Egyptians overthrew their government than those who watch no news at all.....
Fox News watchers are also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not
yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news.

That just means we
can add the Arab Spring to the laundry list of issues Fox fans are less
knowledgeable about. Here are some previously documented examples.

--2003, the Iraq War.
the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA)
study found widespread public misperceptions about the Iraq war, but some media
consumers were more misinformed than others:

Those who primarily
watch Fox News are significantly more likely than average to have
misperceptions.

--2009, health care
reform. A NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found Fox fans were overwhelmingly
misinformed about the proposed health care reform:

In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe
the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say
it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer
dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government
to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly.

2010, global warming.
Stanford University, in conjunction with the National Science Foundation,
released a report titled "Frequent Viewers of Fox News Are Less Like to
Accept Scientists' Views of Global Warming."

It concluded:

More exposure to Fox
News was associated with more rejection of many mainstream scientists' claims
about global warming, with less trust in scientists, and with more belief that
ameliorating global warming would hurt the U.S. economy.--2010, the proposed
New York City mosque. Two Ohio State .

It's a known fact that you can more easily mislead the ignorant..., and this is how FOX spreads their swill.

I've always noticed that the frothing at the mouth liberals who constantly bash Fox never seem to get around to mentioning whatever great source of news and information they watch or read. You would think that if Fox is soooo bad, that they would gladly provide what their so-much-better alternative is.

No, that information always seems to get left out. The reason, of course, is obvious. Liberals are always glad to attack, but never seem to have the guts to open themselves up to criticism, due to the fact that what they most likely watch or read are well known left wing associated outlets.

Those would include: ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, BBC, Err Amerika, Daily Kos, Move On.org, a plethora of similar websites, most of the major urban newspapers and most of the faculties of American universities.

I always find it funny how informed so many liberals claim to be on Fox, but never seem to admit watching it themselves.

I mean, ya gotta love the lather liberals work themselves into because there is ONE network that doesn't spew the liberal bulls#!t line.

Liberals just can't stand that. It drives them up the wall that the most watched cable news network cleans the clock of the rest of them.

I always like to issue my Fox news test to liberals because it always leaves them sputtering and spewing.

Here it is: I can name, off the top of my head, almost a dozen liberals that appear on Fox on a regular, or semi regular basis, or, in fact, work for the network themselves.

That would include: Bob Beckel, Lanny Davis, Mara Liason, Susan Estrich, Lamont Hill, Al Sharpton, Juan Williams, Alan Colmes, Jeraldine Ferraro (prior to her death) Shepard Smith, and Geraldo Rivera.

Ten minutes of research and I could come up with a few more.

Now, you name me even three conservatives that appear on any other network on a regular or semi regular basis. That's all, just three on any other network. They have to appear as commentators. And they all have to be on the same network. No combining networks.

In other words, you can't include conservatives running for office or currently holding office. Just as I didn't include, for example, Barney Frank, even though he appeared on Fox, he's a political office holder. I didn't include Michale Moore for a similar reason. He's been on Fox, but not on a regular enough basis to make the cut. (But, as I said, I won't count those two liberals)

I'll bet there's not a liberal in here that can do it. But it's not surprising. I've been issuing this challenge on blogs and in political chat rooms for years. And the liberals never fail to fall on their face.

Those that do try usually sputter about how the people on my list aren't liberals in their book. Too bad. They describe themselves as liberals and are all Democrats.

Any liberal willing to give it a try?? I'll bet not.

Took me 3 minutes to refute. I could also go into peer reviewed studies debunking the left wing media myth, but you would not read them, because you distrust academica as a liberal bastion. If you move far enough right, I guess everyone is a liberal, even Tucker Carlson (he went commie when he retired the bowtie.)

Hint: start using google scholar instead of regular google for your information. It will help you formulate a reasonable argument.

PBS-

The NewsHour’s five most frequent individual sources were all current government officials, and four out of five were Republicans: George W. Bush (102 appearances), White House spokesperson Scott McClellan (25), Sen. Arlen Specter (R.-Penn.) (24), Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (23) and Sen. Charles Schumer (D.-N.Y.) (19). Those sources appeared primarily in taped segments; among guests in live segments, journalists dominated. The top five guests in live segments were Edward Wong of the New York Times (8 appearances), Marcia Coyle of the National Law Journal (7), and, with five appearances each, Jan Crawford Greenberg of the Chicago Tribune, John Burns of the New York Times and Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute.--fair.org

Tucker Carlson got started on Unfiltered, and now has a new show in the works.

All on PBS

I'll bet there's not a liberal in here that can do it. But it's not surprising. I've been issuing this challenge on blogs and in political chat rooms for years. And the liberals never fail to fall on their face~conservativenotrepublican

I guess primate guy just ruin all your fun, now you can say someone has given you the answers to your somewhat silly question that really has little bearing to this or any other topic besides someone who likes to talk about themselves

Primate Guy: You apparently missed this paragraph:

In other words, you can't include conservatives running for office or currently holding office. Just as I didn't include, for example, Barney Frank, even though he appeared on Fox, he's a political office holder. I didn't include Michale Moore for a similar reason. He's been on Fox, but not on a regular enough basis to make the cut. (But, as I said, I won't count those two liberals)

Since you said yourself:

The NewsHour’s five most frequent individual sources were all current government officials, and four out of five were Republicans: George W. Bush...

This likely can mean only one thing: The figures you stated, or the story you got it from was very old. Your own words said "current government officials".

Current government officials: Current office holders, that is, does not meet the standard.

Current government officials have an obligation as public servants to, at least occasionally, appear on TV, and thus are granted access that is not granted to many others, regardless of their political party.

The only way they would meet the standard is if they were all appearing AFTER Obama was elected and were out of office.