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Subscribe to RSSAfter more than three decades in Congress, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., has announced his plans to retire at the end of his current term. Frank discusses what's behind his decision with TODAY's Savannah Guthrie.
Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank announced Monday that he would retire at the end of his term in early 2013, citing his redrawn district boundaries and his desire to write as reasons.
A longtime liberal stalwart on Capitol Hill, Frank said that he would leave the House after 16 terms primarily due to the way his 4th congressional district had been remapped as a result of Census-based reapportionment.
"I was planning to run again, and then the congressional redistricting came," he said at a press conference in Massachusetts.
Frank said that he wasn't particularly interested in the rigors of waging a full-fledged campaign -- particularly fundraising -- in a district that was mostly half new to him.
As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Frank coauthored of 2010's financial regulatory reform law; he serves now as the committee's ranking Democratic member. Frank said he had been flirting with retirement for some time now, but was motivated to return to Congress for another term to help defend the law from Republicans who have pledged to repeal the law.
Frank also denied that Democrats' chances of winning back the House next fall played a major role in his decision to decline re-election.
Frank has long been a lightning rod for critics, in no small part because of his blunt comments to the press, and sometimes cantankerous engagements with Republicans. But for conservatives hoping that Frank fades into a quiet retirement, the outgoing congressman promised anything but that.
"I'm not retiring from advocacy of public policy," he said. Frank said his preference would be to write -- perhaps on an unfinished Ph.D. dissertation -- and speak freely on issues. He said he didn't anticipate practicing law, though he suggested he "might show up pro bono someday for a gay rights case." (Frank is one of only three openly gay members of Congress.)
At a news conference, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said that he was originally intended to seek one more term but changed his mind in part because the state's new redistricting. Watch his entire statement.
Frank also swore off becoming a lobbyist (He would be in a prime position to cash in because of his committee position.), while taking a shot at former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at that.
"I will neither be a lobbyist nor a historian," he said, referencing Gingrich's explanation at a recent debate of his work for troubled mortgage giant Freddie Mac as being in his capacity as a historian. "One of the advantages to me of not running for office is I don't even have to try to pretend to be nice to people I don't like ... and the notion of being a lobbyist, and having to go and try to be nice to people I don't like -- it would be ridiculous."
Gingrich and Frank have sparred publicly over the course of their respective careers, most recently when Gingrich suggested that Frank should be jailed for the policies the Massachusetts Democrat had supported, which Gingrich said had effectively triggered the housing crisis.
"I did not think I've lived a good enough life to be rewarded by Newt Gingrich being the Republican nominee. It still is unlikely, but I have hopes. I think he is," he said, calling the former Speaker's boomlet a repudiation of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
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Are we ready for round #2 of the right wing homophobic hate-fest?
I just got the stench of off me from the first Frank thread and here we go again...
At least Barney has more ethics than Newt, and won't cash in on the lobbying game!
Then again, a 'slug' has more ethics than the Newt!
I just got home from the "happiest place on earth" to see all this hate. Mickey would not be happy.
Hey, if Barney makes the right go (more) completely nuts, more power to him!
Hey righties- eat a root!
Ha Ha Ha Ha....
Feisty, the words ethics and Newt do NOT belong in the same sentence. However, lobby and Newt go together like peanut butter and jelly
Welcome home phinephancy - glad you hear you had a great time!
I shut off the 'track comments' feature over there about an hour ago - it went beyond FUGLY!
16 terms? Good riddance to a career politician!!
Easy to say he wont be a lobbyist. Lets see what happens in 2 years. If he said he would a lobbyist, that would take the fake pressure on Newt.
Yeah, Feisty, I took a quick read of what was going on and decided laundry was more entertaining than the wingnuts over there.
Hmmm. Wonder why he won't run? Maybe the same reason Dodd didn't. People are learning that it was him and Dodd that are the architects of the housing crisis from the Clinton administration. He'll have a nice cushy job after he leaves.
"One of the advantages to me of not running for office is I don't even have to try to pretend to be nice to people I don't like
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That's nothing new. About a half hour ago CNBC played an old Barney Frank interview with Mark Haines where Barney started having a major hissy fit when he didn't like the questions Haines was asking about his executive compensation proposals. It's HILLARYOUS!!!
And it's on Huffpo, so FR lefty liberals are required to believe it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/11/barney-frank-storms-off-c_n_214280.html
BTW, Nasty, did you ever consider maybe people didn't like Barney simply because he was a grouchy, nasty, mean-spirited bully whose ideas they didn't agree with. I'm in that group.
Well, Joe, some folks must have liked him - he was reelected. And FYI, he didn't pass all those bills on his very own. And to be honest, having someone say what they think is rather refreshing.
Since you're the first post, the stench must be your own as there is no thread above you.
Hate to see Barney Frank retire because he is "blunt", speaks his mind and lets the chips fall where they may after he says them. Nice to see him take a swipe at Gingrich, too.
All I can say is good riddance. Barney Frank and his buddies were the ones that created a large part of the financial mess we are in. He was a major supporter of the repeal of the Glass-Steagel Act that opened up the field for the development of these huge financial conglomerates. He was also a big supporter of the CRA that drove a huge part of the housing bubble. If Barney Frank had not been in Congress to start with, along with his buddy Dodd et al., we might not be in the huge financial mess we are in now. I am glad to see Barney Frank is leaving, now all we need to do is get rid of Dodd and the rest of Frank's liberal cohorts.
OK - I am ready for Fiesty and her liberal pals to start flaming now with insults because they can not refute what I have stated because they know it is true.
So its beat up on Barney day. It seems to me that there are many other career politicians that need to go as well.
So celebrate Republicans, and at some point I'll celebrate when Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor leave.
Is this the same Barney Frank that had his live-in boyfriend growing pot in his home and was running a male escort business? You mean that same honest injun Barney??
Please.... This guy isn't going to run again because he would get STOMPED... He and Chris Dodd should be sharing the same jail cell for what they did with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae...
Unbelieveable.
F-Redehead Roselle & Phinephancy ...
you two bull dikes need to stop using ignorance of the issues to lather each other up (yikes ... I just turned the written word into a disgusting visual)
Phinephancy - Hitler would get elected in Assachusetts if he had a D next to his name. Ted Kennedy got elected 8 times and he killed a woman in Massachusetts. You know why Ted fessed up, they were able to match his shoe print on her forehead after he stepped on her trying to get out of the car as it sank. If you a POS like Barney, easy to get elected in Assachusetts.
JS in SD
Is it possible for a republican to take a breath without lying?
Republicans are desperately trying to pass off the blame for their failures on Obama and the Democrats.
Under the very incompetent Bush Administration, the republican party took a balanced budget, a budget surplus and a thriving economy and turned it into the worst economic disaster in nearly 100 years.
In the last 50 years, every time republican economic policies have been implemented they have caused a recession.
Too funny. That's exactly how I feel about Newt Gingrich AND Rush Limbaugh.
I like Newt. He completes the Moe, Larry, Curly, Medusa, and then there is Newt the Bozo team! All that is missing is an Alaskan cheerleader flunky with a baby mama daughter watching Russia from her window!
It is very entertaining!
Not A Liberal
LIES, but you lap them up and even embellish the old ones.
#1 Gobie did not live with him
2. Frank was not running an escort service or aware of one
3. No Escort Service was being run at all, Gobie made that story up after seeing the Mayflower Madame on TV. He was exposed during the investigations which found many inconsistencies and a total lack of any phone records to support this (No Cell Phones then either)
The House ethics committee absolved Frank of allegations that he was aware that Gobie was allegedly using Frank's D.C. apartment for prostitution. As the July 20, 1990, CSOC report concluded (Page 18):
In fact, the report did not conclusively determine whether Gobie was even using Frank's apartment for "prostitution activities." The report repeatedly notes that Gobie's purported evidence that he had been conducting a prostitution ring collapsed under scrutiny. The committee noted that several of Gobie's claims were "repudiated by sworn testimony" from other individuals (Page 18). For example:
Gobie had claimed that Frank allowed him to forward calls from his "escort service" to Frank's apartment.
Also, members of the committee repeatedly asked Gobie if he had "any knowledge whether any of the clients that you arranged to engage your escort service in fact were involved or participated in any sexual activity at the Congressman's residence" or whether Gobie himself engaged in such activities at Frank's apartment. In each instance, Gobie answered, "Not that I can recall at this time" (Page 7).
The ethics committee concluded "with Respect to the Credibility of Stephen L. Gobie" that:
Gobie has since admitted he made up the story. So keep up with your lies but I will take the word of the House Ethics Committee over yours anyway of the week.
He was not 'reprimanded' for anything to do with the running of any such service, he was reprimanded for trying to fix some parking tickets that may have been received with Gobie was driving his car even though he had House Plates and parking privileges.
STOP THE LIES
Might I suggest you read the link below, and then come back and discuss why Newt Gingrich shouldn't also be in jail with Frank and Dodd.
You see, the article posits that Frank was NOT responsible for the housing bubble and gives good reasons why.
Gingrich, on the other hand, is the one who lobbied AGAINST passage of the bill that Frank co-sponsored that got stalled in the Senate that would have brought Freddie and Fannie under better control.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/barney-frank-didnt-cause-the-housing-crisis/2011/11/28/gIQANqLH5N_blog.html
You do know that you have a Republican senator in Massachusetts who posed nude for money some years ago, right?
No misogyny there, so obviously you're not a homophobe, either, right?
No. You're the one who's the disgusting visual.
Yet another really misinformed conservative, as there IS, in fact, another Barney Frank thread back two threads from here.
Do try to pay attention, please. This is important.
You should be so lucky.
No flames, or insults either, just facts. Read the link above. It WASN'T Frank's fault. Or Dodd's, either. In fact, they weren't even in power most of the time while the problem percolated.
As the article clearly points out, it was a global problem, AND it was primarily a PRIVATE mortgage market problem.
If the private lenders didn't like what was happening, they didn't have to lend.
And several Republican congresses could have repealed Glass-Steagall. In fact, when Chuck Hagel introduced legislation to put an independent regulator on Fannie and Freddie, Republicans -- largely because of the lobbying efforts of Newt Gingrich and other prominent conservatives, refused to vote for it.
Did you know that Barney Frank was a co-sponsor on that bill?
I'll bet you didn't because they don't tell you that on Fox, do they?
Furthermore, no one made the private lenders steal, or Fannie and Freddie, either. Those people are the ones who should be in jail.
Either that, or all you conservatives will finally be forced to admit that regulation is really a good thing.
And what on earth would we talk about then?
[In 1999 the Republican-controlled Congress repealed most of the law] The law that was signed by Bill Clinton?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
WOW!!!! Look at all the Uber-Left Loonies on here trying to defend Barney. If you didn't know better you'd think they believed him when he said there was nothing wrong with Fannie and Freddie. We all know how that lie has worked don't we?
Of course he won't simply become a lobbyist for Fannie or Freddie, he'll be made head of it, they get great bonuses I hear.
Hypocrites!
Speaking of criminals, has anyone heard when they're finally going to sentence Maxine Waters for her ethics violations? I mean the Democrats postponed her hearing since last November. The Libbies never cease to amaze do they?
@ Frankly True -- GREAT post.
Maybe not, but we do know exactly how the same lie worked out for Newt Gingrich -- $1.6 million, paid by Freddie in order to sell Congress on Freddie's business model and fend off Chuck Hagel's legislation that Frank co-sponsored to clamp down on Freddie and Fannie.
And now Gingrich is even trying to profit from lying about that lie.
Be proud, Loud Ringer. After all, your side is ALWAYS exemplary. LoL
Yeah....shove it Barney
Anna Molly
Do you mean the 2005 legislation that Hagel sent? You mean the one that the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent to the Senate in July of 2005? The one that all the Republican members supported and all the Democrats opposed? That one?
The one that didn't have enough support to warrant bringing it to a vote? The one that died at the end of the 109th Congress in January 2007? The one that Democrats refused to move to support when they took over control in 2006? Why didn't the Democrats sign a letter urging the matter come up for a vote? Was it because it was a Republican sponsored Bill? You mean the same partisan politics then that we see today in Congress? Why didn't the regulation loving Democrats present a similar bill in 2007?
I wonder.
Hush Anna, your blatant partisanship is showing.
LoudRinger --
Why yes, I do.
Whatever happened to that legislation, anyway, since Congress was totally controlled by Republicans in 2005?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,440681,00.html
So, now, whose partisanship slip is showing?
Time for you to hush, I think.
Dunno. Maybe they couldn't get a cloture vote because of all that lobbying that Newt and the other conservatives did in 2006. But I never said the Democrats as a whole were innocent. We were only talking about Barney Frank and the Hagel legislation.
yeah notaliberal, right next to bush and cheney..they could be jail pals
I heard that Barney Fags new pickup line in the gay bars is: "Can I push your stool up?"
Why do I have the Blues brothers scene where Belushi says to Carrie Fisher....... "but baby I love you" Only in Massachusetts could a senator cause the death of a woman , and take the family yacht out for a sail the next day. I only saw Mr. Frank once (I grew up on the Cape) at a P-Town event.
Anna Molly
Well, there you go again. You seem to think I give a rats a$$ about Republicans or Democrats.
I hope you don't allow naivete to cloud your judgement about former politicians becoming (GASP!) lobbyists? Like Evan Bayh and Andy Card (Chamber of Commerce), Chris Dodd (MPAA), John Ashcroft (Israeli Aircraft Industries Intl.), Mel martinez (DLA Piper), and on and on.
Until the Congress and WH are purged of the incalculable weakness exhibited by all of them, to outside influences, this practice will go on. There is nowhere in the Constitution or in everyday common sense that states they must allow pandering by institutional forces.
But then again everyone worries about Newt doing what everyone does to some extent and in the meantime our elected leaders are all privy to insider trading with no repurcussions.
God Bless you all that support either of these criminal parties.
You deserve everything you get.
this chump knows that his days were numbered...good riddance to rubbish...and of course the redhead is the first to play the "homophobe" card, must be a closet dweller...come on out, because NOBODY cares!
There will be more than enough gay men in Congress after Mr. Frank retires. They're all married church-going, "traditional-marriage"-defending Republicans who are busy right now prowling through craigslist and men's restrooms.
@Jerry
have you ever been a Congressional page?...interesting
Bravo Freedom...well done!
usa1967
I have a strong feeling that you are not a Democrat, usa1967. How can I tell?
I am proud to know a lot of conservatives with whom I can intelligently discuss a wide range of issues. You are not like them.
Starting in 2003, efforts began to investigate and reform Fannie and Freddie, both of which had gorged themselves on substandard, risky mortgages made possible by the expanded powers of the Community Reinvestment Act enacted in the 1990's. Rep. Frank fought every attempt to rein in these out of control financial behemoths, declaring them financially sound and the attempts at reforming them partisan politics.
In 2008, after Fannie and Freddie had contributed greatly to the financial meltdown, Rep. Frank finally supported those financial reforms. Rep. Frank, ethical, hardly; Rep. Frank, a hypocrite, most certainly.
He knew he didnt stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning this time around. Before the redistricting he got a scare from the Tea Party, now he KNOWS he's done. Good riddance. Now our problem is his replacement, Maxine Waters.
@Govt
Maxine Waters...hahaha...that's another incoherent babbler!...if you sat in on a conversation between the two of them you would need Capt. Kirk's universal translator...the mush mouth edition
Liberals are stupid
Barney took millions from the banks and other industries to do their bidding. Good riddance.
Ah, not like Newt taking millions from Fannie & Freddie, eh?
He took a fraction (in campaign contributions) of what Gingrich took (in money in his personal pocket).
According to the Washington Post, he has made over 100 million with his K Street lobbying group. Of course, all that is okay, right?
Right. Plus, one less pervert in Congress is a good thing too.
Now if we can just get rid of the rest of the Rebaggers out of Congress, think of all the "perverts" would be gone.
They all steal , None of them can ever be trusted. Dems and Repubs are all crooks Period. When will all of you realize none of then are any good.
All I can say is good riddance. Barney Frank and his buddies were the ones that created a large part of the financial mess we are in. He was a major supporter of the repeal of the Glass-Steagel Act that opened up the field for the development of these huge financial conglomerates. He was also a big supporter of the CRA that drove a huge part of the housing bubble. If Barney Frank had not been in Congress to start with, along with his buddy Dodd et al., we might not be in the huge financial mess we are in now. I am glad to see Barney Frank is leaving, now all we need to do is get rid of Dodd and the rest of Frank's liberal cohorts.
OK - I am ready for Fiesty and her liberal pals to start flaming now with insults because they can not refute what I have stated because they know it is true.
Wow! Rep Frank just didn't realize the power that he had..he, and he alone!
Good luck Barney, you will be missed.
JS, you better ask Dick Armey about his role in the repeal of Glass/Steagel. Pot/kettle
This is one of the guys you can hold responsible for the housing mess that we have today. About time he is gone. Unfortunately it we take years to clean up the mess that this guy created.
Thank you Lord!
Just love how you Rebaggers blame one or two people for the mess that in reality was caused by your side. You know, watching too much Fox kills your brain cells. (You know, the brain, that gray matter under your hair)
Oh boy! He must have absolutely drained his constituents' brains to get elected for 16 terms. Some of the US Congressmen's tenure could upstage Mubarak's tenure as President of Egypt.
I hope we are not being fooled into thinking we have a choice here!
Amadeus...Proof?? His tax records are open. So where are these supposed payoffs from the banks to put new regulations on them?
Mycorner: you could argue everyone of Frank's constituents who voted for him is wrong and that those who wanted to further deregulate the banks and further free up Fannie and Freedie Mac to write unsupported mortgages was right. But the rest of us know how that came out.
99percenters you have no brain cells. You suck and blow at the same time! Now go back to your Wal-Mart executive stock boy job!
Frank voted against Gramm-Leach-Bliley. A spurious claim to the contrary originated by the Larouche Political Action committee has gone semi-viral in right-wing circles, but you have to consider the source.
Squidword wrote:
Spoken like a true one-percenter. Or at least by someone laboring under the delusion that one day he will be.
http://rt.com/usa/news/fed-trillion-reserve-bailout-401/
Yeah, BARNEY?? Where's the money now?!!!
Squidword, You are so missinformed! We are not stupid, nor unemployed! I am a 99% and I have a great job, I shower everyday, and I have no criminal record. Really the only thing that can suck and blow at the same time is a shop vac! The right has convinced you that it is OK, to sell your self out and demonize those that wish to stand up to the corporate overlords that have purchased our congress. Our message is clear "Publically Funded Campaigns" "Take the money out of politics, this way each side is truelly represented, rather than who ever pays the most. "Corporations ar NOT People" really this should be obvious-being as you have to file for corporation status with the government, but some how the government already sees an individual as a person?
Now you go back to writing negative comments at random, and proving yourself stupid-It is a lot easier than fixing things!
Right. Plus, one less pervert in Congress is a good thing too.
LOL - how does it feel - you will be giving a pervert a huge retirement paycheck and even be paying for his medical care. HE HE HE!
99%er suck
Worked for it?!! Surely you jest. How many 'history professors' make $1.8M for their history lessons? Newt has cashed in on his Washington connections like a shameless whore (no offence to real whores) for decades. I haven't looked into Barney's finances enough to comment intelligently, but I can't imagine anyone being worse than the man that convicted lobbyist, Jack Abramoff called a crook: Newt. If Jack thinks you are crooked, you're crooked. Whatever Barney has done, you picked a really bad person to compare him to.
Not leaving politics huh? Guess he's going to be a lobbyist - I guess no more good bribe money for him being in office?
or like I posted earlier - who's got the pictures...
Sicko@!$%#, you are so misinformed, and a poor speller. I'm not rich, and I'm definitely not one of you 99% misguided fools; crapping and pissing in public parks, trashing up public parks, causing people to be late to work, disrespecting police, raping and killing you fellow marchers. You guys are a joke, and wasting good air. I'd rather work and earn money for my family.
Your 99%'er message is anything but clear, and everyone of you fools has a different reason for being there. You guys are nothing but an angry mob of misguided fools. It takes 2 to tango, and it takes 2 to make bribery possible.
If you're serious about fixing the problem, you should be staking out the White House and the 535 other Fools on the Hill; and insist on term limits for your senators and lofty congressmen. You know, the ones that voted on things that affect us, but not them, ala Obamacare.
Term Limit, limit the time/damage those 535 can spend on the Hill, force new people to circulate the system with new ideas. And most of all, insist that your representative has worked in the real world for no less than 20 years, BEFORE allowing him/her to run for public office. Making working 20yrs in the real world a prerequisite for anyone who wants to control our Tax Dollars. Do this first, and then purchaseable people like Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Bill Clinton, Diane Feinstein, Ted Kennedy, Barrak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Thomas Reins, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the rest of the lot wouldn't stand a chance at making you 99%'ers mad; or us Tea Bagger's either.
Picketing a bunch of rich bankers, because there's crooked politicians walking around with their hands open, isn't going to solve the problem. I like having lots of rich people in America, it's what separates us from most every country in the world. Remove the cancer, which is crooked politicians, the rest will fall into place.
phinephancy defends Barney's actions the last 16 terms by changing the subject.
boneheads...Gringrich was "employed" by Fraudy and Scammy as a private citizen...what happened to the "critical thinking"?...interesting
Duphas,
You make some really good points. I disagree with you much more about the solutions than the problems.
But first, whatever you think of the OWS crowd and don't take this as a total defense, but can we all agree that the police over-reaction is off the charts?
I don't know about you, but I grew up in ultra-conservative central Ohio in the fifties. I listened to Paul Harvey (Sr.) every day. I was told over and over and over again that I was very lucky to be born in the United States because here I could say anything I wanted to. That I could even oppose government policies and that I was protected by the constitution. I was told if I was born in a communist country that if I spoke out of turn that I would be beaten by the police on the streets and arrested on a convenient charge. So I guess that makes Portland, Oakland, LA, NYC and all the campuses of the UC system are all communist countries. Students arrested at a peaceful protest, clubbed, gassed? Where is our free society? All I see is the police lining up to protect to moneyed interests.
If you watched any of the news footage of the Davis incident, it started out with a scant handful of protesters. The hundreds that became involved were bystanders outraged by the actions of the police as they yelled, not 'pig' but 'Shame on you'.
I can tell you aren't from California. Here in CA we have term limits. What that accomplished was that now we have totally inexperienced crooks and no elder statesmen. Do you really think term limits keeps them from being thieves? No, it just tells them they have to steal it more quickly.
We agree about the 535 problems we have, but instead of attaching all your artificial limits about terms and being in the private sector, don't you think that all the things you want would happen if we had campaign financing reform?
We already have term limits, they're called elections. If the people could be heard over the truck loads of corporate and special interest money (yes, Unions). Then you could promote candidates who had experience in the private sector. You wouldn't need a law. The only law you need is one that puts elected officials answerable directly to their constituents instead of lobbyists and corporations they have to suck up to to get enough money to be elected. If all the money came from one place and was all equal, the candidates would have to talk to us again. We don't need any more qualifications, all we need is control over the process. Until campaign financing reform comes, it will always be more of the same.
I like your intentions but I have trouble with the purity of your motives. I don't have any problem with most of your list of people who shouldn't be controlling our money. But it is hard in these days of corruption from all 535 of them to take you seriously about having the best interest of the country ahead of partisan politics when your list did include4 one Republican. Not even Newt taking #1.8M to keep the real estate fraud going? You really couldn't think of ONE Republican, and you want to be taken seriously? Maybe if the teabaggers would listen to their own rhetoric and stop blindly following red vs blue, they might get some more support.
Speaking of which, since when did Thomas Reins, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton have control of our tax dollars? Again, it's too bad you are so busy pinning 'bad guy' signs on anyone who doesn't agree with you in lockstep to listen to some of your own reasonable ideas.
Feisty Redhead..you have some serious issues just because someone does not like or approve of Barney's politics or life style do not deserve being insulted .It is sad today if you have an opinion someone or group immediately sling insults
"It is sad today if you have an opinion someone or group immediately sling insults"
Which describes you right-wing gasbags perfectly.
Don't worry about sweetgeorgia...It's in her DNA to be rude and inconsiderate of other people's opinion. Just enjoy the fact that you have a life outside of here!
Sweet Georgia has the serious issues - more like BITTER Georgia.
Thanks Barney for your service and Good Luck in retirement. Keep on the teflon for those vile gay-bashers.
I'll tell you what sweetgeorgia - go pay a visit over there and see how your side is behaving & then get back to me... peaches! ;o)
On second thought, just stick around here, the snaggle tooth trolls have arrived!
When you have the courage to call out bad behavior on your side, someone might take you seriously... lol
Read a great quote this weekend.
"Rudeness is the weak person's imitation of strength."
If sweetgeorgia is any indication, that's why the peaches from there sucked this year.
You see, sweetgeorgia? Those liberals show their colors everytime. And excellent post, ksw62118. It's too bad some people can't take the hint!
@sweetgeorgia: While there was absolutely not a shred of vitriol or venom in your comment, it's pretty clear from which side the hatred and animosity actually resides.
MarkC-3886135: "...describes you right-wing gasbags perfectly"
JK1963: "...It's in her DNA to be rude and inconsiderate"
RedDevPS: "...more like BITTER Georgia."
Feisty: "...the snaggle tooth trolls have arrived!"
phinephancy-4252115: "...the peaches from there sucked this year"
Feisty is one of the worst on here.
Nothing but ignorance and intolerance. All she sees is blue. The dems could line up some kids and shoot them in the street and feisty would be on here talking about how ugly the repubs are.
True reflection of stupidity.....feisty.
I want to thank all you Rebaggers on here today. You are so very funny.
Agreed! lol
Nice to see them showing their true colors for a change...
Care for some *popcorn*?
Sweetgeorgia, now that's rich. Want to see ugly, nasty, mean "insults", go read what conservatives wrote on the first Barney Frank thread then come back here and tell us about how Feisty should not call Newt a "slug" which is a pretty good description since Gingrich leaves a slime trail where ever he's been.
Love some, Feisty. See what you mean about the shower. Whew! The nasties are out in force today. Guess they didn't have a good holiday.
What isn't vitriolic in that statement?
Jody, the only problem with comparing Newt to a slug, is that a slug has a useful purpose and Newt doesn't.
Diogene,
I merely state a FACT with my comment.
Jody,
You are the perfect example of why people loath liberals. You always want to somehow justify your insults at people.
Personally, I loathe stupidity - which you Rebaggers show so much of.
Could they have a good holiday when Gingrich is the head of their slaver party?
Sweet when did Frank's life style require or request your approval?
When did it become your business?
I can see the repubs now crowing that the most powerful fag in the US Congress is retiring. That is their style. Of Course, the protect THEIR gay members, even if they're criminals! Mum's the word. They say nothing until the crap his the fan THEN they'll act!
"Woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITS, who strain out the gnat and swallow the camel"!!!
It should make for FUNNY reading. It will be very interesting if ANY republicans praises Frank publicly even tho privately, many of them admire Barney Frank for being very bright, a hard worker and effective!
Unfortunatley, Tom, a better term for the GOP is hypocrit.
I know, that's why I quoted it! Wonder why my comment was collapsed. Did I hit a GOP nerve??
No, you just failed to quote it accurately or use correct spelling. I figure you are between 12 and 14 and have no idea what the passage refers to.
What is he planning on writing about, the love life of a thieving, slobbering, fat gay man?
No, write your own biography.
The GOP bio's would be about preaching family values while banging everything in sight.
MarkC
Are you the officially appointed Libs-R-Us bodyguard?
L&G, ahhh, the true right-wing colors fly with that one.
REB #s, then you must be the official conservative body guard.
That's because Liberals have no values.
L&G
Pure hate from you
I won't bother to try to tach you better, it would be a waste of time. People like you are dying off and we will be done with you in another generation.
Thank goodness for the moral high-road displayed by conservatives. Newt having adulterous affairs while his wife is dying in the hospital; Cain making unwanted sexual advances on women.
soupy: with "values" like you are displaying, I'm afraid your point is negated.
Funny,when that dirtbag Clinton was acosting women and cheating on his wife all you liberals made excuses for him.Now Newt is bad for what you think he did (which is not true).And Cain has these women trying to get rich by lying about him and even if he did what the one said he did,no meant no.
You liberals are morally void....
Yeah, you're right. Liberals have no values, like that "feed the poor", "care for the sick," "shelter the homeless" crap they're always peddling. You know, like that bleeding-heart, commie, deviant, hippie guy, what's his name? Oh yeah, "Jesus".
truthlogic, So what about Newt is exactly untrue? He did, in fact, cheat on both of his previous wives and one of them while she was receiving cancer treatment. This is a a matter of public record.
I guess your moniker is supposed to be ironic?
You must mean the woman and the car. This is my favorite Cain incident. You will recall that first he said he had never met her and didn't know her. Confronted with the pictures, he just denied anything had ever happened. And ultimately that morphed into, if it happened, then "maybe" she was the aggressor.
LoL Or didn't you hear that?
Anyway, if that happened to most men, it would probably be a relatively novel incident that they would remember. Wouldn't it?
Because otherwise, I suspect a lot of wives would like to know.
So, the only conclusion one can reasonably draw from this is that, either Cain has a LOT of these kinds of incidents, so many that he can't remember any specific one, OR he has a VERY poor memory, which might disqualify him for President for that reason alone.
Alternative choice? -- he's lying.
You make the call.
I don't think Bill Clinton ever called anyone else out for their infidelity. Newt called Clinton out for infidelity while he was being unfaithful, himself. He later justified this hypocrisy by telling his wife, in so many words, that it was important for others to "do as I say, not as I do."
His bigger lie, in my opinion, was his recent lie on a national stage about his role in Freddie and Fannie. Instead of trying to warn Freddie, as he claimed, he took $1.6 million to be a cheerleader for Freddie.
And don't forget that he was also sanctioned by Congress specifically for providing misleading information, for which he was forced to pay a $300,000 fine.
And that, in a nutshell, sums up what Newt has "done" -- at least as far as we know it.
Satisfied?
sully -
It seems that the only time that liberals have morals like 'feed the poor', et al is when it's with someone else's money.
Now who is being Nasty? You repbs/teabaggers are Sooooo funny.
I hope old thre time Newt Pulls it off. I think he is ONLY in this for the M-O-N-E-Y
and does not even want to win...watch and see. The same with Cain.
Barney is great. Smart and funny, he will be missed.
Woohoo!
The Problem with the media is they write things like this...
It's 2011...If you can't run on who you are, don't run...Or is the writer trying to infer that he knows the all the other closet gays in congress and wishes their were more?
...I know he didn't win as gay...he came out 7 years later, but maintained his seat after that.
Well all that said, He really did a bang up job with the House Financial Services Committee... SEE YA... AND STAY OUT!!!
Funny thing... if your not running for office...
I love how you lib fags think republicans dont like Frank because he is gay. Nobody gives a crap about that or the fact he is so friggin fat and ugly he has to boy young men to have sex with him. We had the fukk because he is a lying sak of garbage and he hates this country. He wants to steal from the rich to buy votes from the poor. Pathetic
Hey Alan....Just how stupid and ignorant are you? News flash!!! No one gives a flying %$#& what connie cowards like you have to say...Please return to the bottom of the gene pool with the rest of your cohorts you puss.
Hey Alan,
Sorry about Torpedo falling into your trap of name calling. Your note was so full of vitriolic hatred, it was hard not to respond in kind.
If your reaction to the honorable member of the US House of Representatives had anything to do with his politics, then why did you spend the majority of your note calling him names, based on his appearance and lifestyle?
When you weren't doing that, you were calling him names based on totally unsubstantiated accusations.
What you accuse him of is far better than stealing from the poor and the middle class, to garner votes from Faux News viewers.
I love how you characterize a member of Congress, who has been elected by thousands of patriotic American Citizens as "hates this country". Funny, I always thought this country stood for 'the loyal opposition' and opposing arguments to keep it strong.
Silly me. I must be a 'lying sak of garbage' because I disagree with Alan Grobb's tablets from the mount. Nice sense of democracy there, Alan
Feisty is always first. Just goes to show he works for MSLSD.
Don't like the site, go troll somewhere else.
Truth hurts, huh phine?
Actually, the whole statement was incorrect. Please go back to Fox - you all deserve each other.
Well...you must make your parents very proud, phine!! I can hardly wait for your next fourth grade insult. Let me know when you are all grown up and can make contributions like the big boys, ok?
Out for me thinks his contribution should be used to point out that one should never take a man seriously when they willfully take pleasure in the bum, because they're full of -ish. Yes I'm only 4 years old.
He doesn't want to run because him and his boyfriend are taking all the millions that they scammed the American people on with freddie and fannie this guy needs to go to jail
Yeah him and his boys are going to the carribean to play butt pirates after they have fooled the people in this country for the last forty or so years, I cant believe how dumb the people in Mass. are to relect this guy term after term.
He is more associated with "First Read" Anna, and a couple others are regulars only on First Read articles. Not real hard to figure out
As far as Frank is concerned, I think he wants out because he sees that the good times in public service are over. The @!$%# will be hitting the fan, and that is one peace of @!$%# that he would rather not bury his nose into
This POS will probably get a big job somewhere else. Maybe Penn State will hire him as a locker room attendant.
Taxpayer, you are an idiot!
"There is nothing wrong with Fannie or Freddie, and the federal government wouldn't have to bail them out if there were" - Barney Frank. This single most wrong statement ever uttered in the history of mankind.
If Barney had kept his Frank out of Freddie's Fannie, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.
As one who lives in Barney's district. He won't be missed.
Janine: Republican Tom Delay did enough damage arguing that limiting any of the loans Freddie and Fannie wanted to make would be "interfering with free markets". He is not missed. Some of us werent born yesterday.
I thought "I am not a crook" was the "most wrong statement" ever uttered
Possibly -- I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Yah..or "mission accomplished" Or "watch my lips...No new tax's"
or "WMD"s" I could go on forever. Such Fun LOL
"Fox News, Fair and balanced reporting" is the worst ever statement
you keep believing that when barney said just right before the collaspe everything was stable yea his bank acoount was what crook i am so glad he is gone such a disgrace to this counrty flat out dishonest
Yes, Frank made a wrong statement, but that doesn't mean he had anything to do with the fall of Fannie and Freddie. They were already failing when Frank got his post in 2008.
Name one source that proves Frank took money from Fannie and Freddy. All the bs about him forcing banks to make lo0ans is laughable. Fox News makes an allegation and the ignorant right runs with it for all its worth, despite no proof of any wrong doing.
People dont like Fox because they tell it like it is and the dems and liberals think anyone that doesnt go along with them are idiots, well they should look in the mirror and they will see who the real idiots are, just wonder if they have gotten any smarter then they were in 2008 , or if they will be just as stupid this time around.
Wayne - Your are what you are! Don't look in the mirror it will scare the crap out of you.
um, wayne-lotsa numbers
I think you win the award for POSTER child:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-22/news/30431182_1_fox-news-results-show-viewers
@Frank. The Dems took over control of the House in 2006 and Frank got his post late 2006-early 2007. So he was indeed there before the fall took place and he did miss lead investers stating that Fannie and Freddy were, "solid" going forward.
Barney the Terrible was largely responsible for the collapse of the housing industry and our current dire economic condition. He is a liar and must be held responsible for his misleading statements about Fannie and Freddy. I am delighted that this bizarre character will no longer infect the halls of Congress. Good riddance!
Barney is one of the chief architects of the financial collapse in this country. It's one thing to screw up. It's another to have the press cover for him so he gets off with little criticism. One of our most corrupt senators. Bye Barney.
facts appear elusive for the above three trolls:
the Dems were ELECTED in 2006, but Nancy didn't get the gavel until:
January 4, 2007 - so that right there is a fact devoid statement,...
AP - the part of 1999 that hurt was the upgrade to the CRA. Democrats have been on a racist witch hunt. The assumption being if you are poor, you are an African American. Sorry folks, but that though in itself is Racist.
What the upgrade did was make all federal agencies able to investigate any financial institution on just the assertion of Racism. The threat of this was so real that executives and managers who got laid off or lost their buisiness in the fall have come forward an explained - they made the "creative" loans to keep the feds out of their offices. All it took was an official to tell them, they weren't giving out enough loans to low income borrowers.
wayne-3043511 has this to say
Ummmm, what is "it"? Fox News has a great game going--they troll the "blogs" (I would not be surprised to find that their interns are paid for writing blogs, but I digress), their "entertainment" shows talk about what is on the blogs, and the news shows report that "people are talking about" the blogs.
Is "it" true that Fox News accurately reports what people are discussing--for example, that the Obama birth certificate had certain features. Well, yes, they are accurately reporting that people are talking about some issue like the Obama birth certificate. What does this prove--nothing.
When one does nothing more than report rumors, one is just spreading the rumor. Let us say that some anonymous individual says that there is something "irregular" about the way that you behave at work. Let us say that everyone at work starts to chatter about your supposed "irregular behavior," and that the office newsletter reports, quite accurately, that people are discussing your "irregular behavior." That people are discussing your "irregular behavior" is true, fair, and balanced; the proof that your behavior is actually "irregular" is based only on the credibility of a single unnamed source and no one has any business "reporting" it because there is no reason to believe that it is valid.
Fox News reports rumors--rumors that are probably manufactured by Fox News. The "proof" is usually about as solid as the "proof" that Obama was not born in Hawai'i. Trust me--if I really wanted to cast aspersions on anything whatsoever (for example, where Bachmann was born), I could do it. Nothing in human affairs is ever provable beyond any doubt whatsoever--a person who wants to cast "doubt" can do so. This does not make most of the stories that they "report" on anything more than rumor based principally on the dislike of this or that individual.
If you cannot figure out the distinction between Fox News manufacturing bogus stories based principally on their ability to invent some completely implausible story that they then dare others to "prove" wrong (and one cannot "prove" something to be either true or false if the burden is "beyond any doubt whatsoever"--one simply cannot), and other organizations which try to only report that which is at least plausible--then, sure, you are going to prefer Fox News.
You are also going to choose to believe all of the vicious office gossip about anyone you don't happen to like--because you like to hear ugly things about people that you are predisposed to dislike. I guess it makes you happy.
The rest of us choose to believe in a little something called documentable reality. If that isn't your cup of tea--fine--but please don't annoy the grown-ups by spouting out your conspiracy theories, half-truths, and innuendos. Okay?
To be frank with you, it's nice to see that the garbage is being taken out.
And lonesome says it all.
Now are you teabaggers being Mean??? Really. You do make me laugh. You have bean listening to much to Rush (you know the fat gay guy ) and fox
Rather be a teabagger than a bleeding heart liberal , maybe you can take a trip with your buddy Frank to Broke Back Moutain and have a ferry good time.
Your boy Newt took 1.6 million from Fannie and Freddie.
TO THE ADMINS:
WHY ARE THE TOP COMMENTS COLLAPSED, BUT ANTI-GAY SLURS BEING ALLOWED?
THANK YOU.
Caligula - What slurs? The motto hanging on the wall of Franks office:
"Never leave your buddies behind"
Frank is many things. It is true he is gay. It is also true he smarter than all repubs in the house and senate combined. And there are some smart repubs in those two groups.
Barney Frank is openly gay. Barney Frank was openly gay when being openly gay was not only not "cool," but was illegal in many places. Barney Frank has, however, managed to get himself re-elected time after time, and his constituents have been happy with his work.
Whether or not you like Barney Frank--unless you are one of his constituents--is really neither here nor there. He did his job, he did it to the best of his ability, he did work that was good enough to get him elected and re-elected, and he is voluntarily retiring--not being forced into retirement.
That's a lot more than we can say for Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, Bob Allen, Christopher Lee, and . . . one could go on. The people in Barney Frank's district like him--and he has done good work for his constituents (whether it helped you out or not is irrelevant, as that's not how representative democracy works; representative democracy is about each elected official working for the good of his/her district and that's it)--this is really about all that needs to be said about him.
How much money do you think this guy got under the table - and that's not to mention his partner. As of 2009, Frank's net worth is estimated by the Center for Responsive Politics at $1.88 to $4.74 million.
And Newt's is what?
not near as much as fannie and freddie funneled to guys like james johnson and franklin raines.
the worst thing about frank was he denied freddie and fannie were in trouble even into july 2008 interview with CNBC. and he fought the Bush administration's desire to have the treasury department oversee fannie and freddie.
It is amazing how many people keep blaming the economic collapse on Barney Frank and on poor people buying homes they could not afford and defaulting. Let's examine the facts. Adjustable mortgages generally come in 3 and 5 year periods. Should we assume that these people somehow bought homes in 2007 and were hit with balloons immediately? If they bought them in 2002 to 2004, as is more reasonable to assume, then Barney Frank had no sayso, as a member of the minority at the time. Finally, should we really believe that the folks near the bottom of the economic ladder had the power to bring down the entire financial system? Was it home foreclosures that brought down Bear Stearns and Lehmann? Last time I checked, those were not mortgage banks, but glorified gamblers.... which is who caused the meltdown.
"Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac are not in a crisis...[They are] entities that are fundamentally sound...and even if there were a problem, the federal government doesn't bail them out." - Barney Frank. This single most wrong/idiotic statement ever uttered in the history of mankind.
Barney Frank leaving congress...it makes me sad. He's a fighter for sure! I will truly miss watching all his video clips!
Happy retirement, Barney. I certainly will miss you!
yuk
He will leave the chamber to the melodic tune of "My Boy Lollipop." Or possibly "Dancing Queen." Or both.
TO THE ADMINS:
MORE ANTI-GAY SLURS ABOVE.
THANK YOU.
Why does the truth hurt.
Is it true that they are anti-gay slurs? Yes. Is it true that they express the sincerely-held anti-gay beliefs of the posters? Yes. Does it hurt to read hate-filled slurs? Yes.
So--"does the truth hurt?" Well, yes, when it is painful to see that there are quite so many anti-gay bigots in the world who are willing to say ugly things to get others to titter. It is embarrassingly painful to see that there are so many people in America who are quite this small minded, petty, and juvenile.
Or, was that not what you had in mind, al?
Well, one is a good start....only 533 more career politicians to go. Unfortunately they will all draw $174,000 retirement.
Loved all the collapsing done on the last thread also. Is that what Republicans spend their money on? Internet trolls? Must be! Barney Frank will hopefully run for a senate seat I believe may be vacated by John Kerry when he is tapped for Hillary's job of Secretary of State since she plans on moving on from that post. Frank and Warren would be wonderful representatives of Massachusetts. I don't live there now but did in the 80's. It is a beautiful state with lots of liberal influences. That is why it is always thriving as a state and not depressed like the South and most of the Midwest.
@Ana The great state of Illinois is primarily liberal and it isn't doing so great.
Barney's not all too well revered in Massachusetts. He basically admitted that with the redistricting the jig was up.
And Kerry best hope that he gets tapped for Secretary of State because his chances of re-election aren't that great having been confirmed as a SUPER failure.
Hey, Ana, I see that the study of Fox News watchers is true. :)
And doesn't that say it all! LMAO
Interesting poll??
What's more interesting is the title citing Fox News. Seems if you read the actual story it appears MSNBC listeners are the least informed.
Me thinks Farleigh Dickingson University might have some type of liberal bias. Imagine a University with liberal bias. How woulda thought.
Hey Rob, if you are so smart, why are you on the MSNBC site? Since you think you are that much better than the rest either crawl back under your rock with the other creepy crawleys, or go back to Fox where you will be patted on you back.
why are you on the MSNBC site?
Like many I enjoy a good laugh. And with all the progressives here the entertainment value is tough to beat. Watching the libbies sing the praises of failures such as obama and barney frank; it's fall off the chair funny!
Study funded by MSNBC the socialist/communist propaganda network!
ksw62118,
Illinois added 30,000 jobs in October. More than any other state. That is not a percentage. That is jobs added. More than California, the largest state even. Illinois is on the way to recovery. Just so you have the facts straight. By the way, Wisconsin, your "conservative" neighbor lost the most jobs of any state in October. That is "conservative" Wisconsin governor Walker's handy work for you. I always put conservative in quotes because it no longer really applies to spend crazy Repubicans like Walker. Who don't think twice about spending millions on voting ID laws but cuts education and meals for the poor.
Republicans believe in welfare . . . for the rich. Not the poor!
Sorry Ana living right across the river and having been an Illinois resident and family still lives there, Illinois is FAR from being on recovery. Try again sweetie. I think there are red and blue states all over the country that are in trouble because of career politicians.
Your use of "sweetie" tells me everything I need to know about you and am uninterested in anything coming out of your mind. What a bore!
phinephancy,
Of course Fox News watchers are ill informed. Have been for quite some time. Fox news makes sure of it. Just look at their cream of the crop of Republican candidates. Couldn't find Lybia on a map if North Africa was placed front and center of their view. Bag to Bush policies, bad economy, wars and corporate welfare we will go with one of them leading us to that destructive course.
Below is from the same article-priceless!!! Like I said, I watch both and read a neutral news site. Too bad both you Lefties and Righties can't see past your blindness. Thanks for the laughs......................
"The kicker is that MSNBC didn’t do all that much better. In one question, some 11% of MSNBC viewers actually believed that Occupy Wall Street protesters were Republicans compared to just 3% of Fox viewers."
Paul-Florida,
Wow! You felt a need to publish the "one" item on that list that MSNBC watchers didn't do well on. Or did they? Has anyone done statistics on the occupy movements across the country to see what type of views they have? I thought so!
News flash: Reversing citizens united and taking money out of politics is both a conservative and a liberal view. Both Occupiers and Tea Partiers want that money interests crap gone from our government. That is a fact in everyone's polls.
No kidding Ana - which is why I posted the entire link to Forbes!
Unlike the right wingers who do the hatchet job cut & pastes...
There was NO doubt in my mind one of them wouldn't take the bait!
Poor Paulie, not only took it, he swallowed it hook line & sinker! lol
Yeah Ana, I posted the "other" side of the article that Red posted. See even Ed Shultz does the samething and you would probably take it has the truth, am I right Ana? Don't you find a story hard to believe, ie Fox and MSNBC, you look at another news sourse that's not Left or Right? I'm thinking you don't based on what you write on here. There's always two sides to a story Ana.
Bait? OK, Red how did I bite? You posted it, I read it. But what's funny about the "Cut and Paste" has you say, that wouldn't apply to Gingerbread for calling something that wasn't hers, her own now would it? See Red, if I "cut and paste" as you like to put it, I put it either in qoutes or I cite it, I don't rip it off and call it my own and then try to defend it to include her friends. That would be wrong now wouldn't it Red?
Which reminds me you were suppose to prove your accusation months ago!
I'll be waiting....
Yeah, I mentioned it to you about a month ago and I figured you let it go since you didn't respond. Well before I shut my computer down and head home, enjoy what your friend called her own. I'm assuming you have what Gingerbread wrote? If not, I have it saved on my lap top and will post it when I get home and finish my run. Priceless..................oh by the way, I'll be waiting for your reply.
www.friendburst.com/blog/62409/reflections-aftermath-september-11-2001/
Oh and by the way - I'll respond as soon as you post a link that works!
By all means please do...
You're not going to run away again this time are you? lol
Good job striking a nerve Feisty, You can see you having an affect by the amount of collapses you had from the Grump Old People's party. No offense to non grumpy older people who rock and make my world a better place because of their political activity.
It's works for me.............
Run away? Why would I run away? Do you mean that when I left the country for work? But let me post that piece of work you friend called her own:
Gingerbread Mamma
Reflections on the Aftermath of September 11, 2001
As we approach the 10th anniversary, I think back
to that awful day and what we lost then and during the ensuing ten years and
sadly are still losing, vast amounts of treasure and most precious of all,
lives of our citizens. Have we learned
anything in the past 10 years, anything at all?
I remember that morning and as the enormity of the
destruction sunk in, I remember thinking, our lives will never be the same
again. Not knowing how change would happen,
but certain it would.
We lost some of our freedoms, the carefree way we traveled,
especially by air. We lost the openness we had toward strangers, our thoughts
of others we don’t know have become suspicious, sometimes wary of their words
and or their motives. We have to be
very protective of our personal information and with whom we may share it
As a country we lost a lot, apart from the loss of life and
treasure, we lost our way in who we used to be. It seems so sad because it
could have been better. At first there
was that feeling of togetherness, we clung to each other, in our shock, then,
we will rebuild and be as strong if not stronger than ever. Other nations, felt
our loss and our grief, standing with us, as we had, for so many of them in
their hour of need.
Then we were told to go shopping, not to bother our pretty
little heads, we will get through this, we will bring the terrorists to
justice, we will hunt those that hurt us no matter what it takes. Not matter what it took, we were going to do
it, whether the law said it was OK or not. It was stated, you are either with
us or you are with the terrorists, no matter what it takes, my way or the
highway.
Now, reading excerpts of VP Cheney’s memoir and watching his
interviews, it comes back like a bad dream, the invasion of Iraq, for weapons
of mass destruction, none were ever found. The loss of life, over four thousand
American lives, countless hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Over a hundred thousand American service people
injured there, many of them so seriously they will require ongoing health
services for the rest of their lives.
For all this and so much more, he has no regrets.
For the first term of the Bush administration, he was, for
all intents and purposes the President, he pushed for military action in Iraq. We will be greeted with flowers and cheers he
said, as he bulled his agenda through because George Bush was never cut out to
be president. Cheney had manipulated
himself to be VP, and though his daddy had been President, GWB never had any
experience other than the backslapping role of Governor of Texas, the best job
in the world, he told Rick Perry his Lt. Governor.
We found that during this time, torture and abuse were done
in the name of the People of the United States, the Constitution was trampled
on, the moral high ground lost, perhaps forever and the country is now nearly
bankrupt. Some even made political careers out of selling fear.
Out of 9/11 has come the extreme partisanship we see
today. The lack of courtesy and respect
towards those who are different or do things differently, the lack of unity,
the striving towards a common cause, we are all in this together, is no more. M Bin Laden
is gone, yet we still fight his followers as we should and we seem to be doing
it smarter than before with good results.
Bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, he couldn’t
have known that the destruction he wrought that awful day, would balloon into a
financial disaster too, aided by zealots and nincompoops who didn’t figure how
to pay for the wars except put them on a credit card for future generations to
pay, in addition, gave tax cuts to the rich to further dig the hole we fell
into.
What should have
united us, has divided us, and the unscrupulous have taken advantage of it all.
#1 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 9:22 AM EDT
Now what is on the web site I sent you:
Reflections on the Aftermath of September 11, 2001
(A very dear blogger friend of mine posted this…..I just had to share!!!!!!!!!)
As we approach the 10th anniversary, I think back to that awful day and what we lost then and during the ensuing ten years and sadly are still losing, vast amounts of treasure and most precious of all, lives of our citizens.
Have we learned anything in the past 10 years, anything at all?
I remember that morning and as the enormity of the destruction sunk in, I remember thinking, our lives will never be the same again.
Not knowing how change would happen, but certain it would.
We lost some of our freedoms, the carefree way we traveled, especially by air. We lost the openness we had toward strangers, our thoughts of others we don’t know have become suspicious, sometimes wary of their words and or their motives.
We have to be very protective of our personal information and with whom we may share it. As a country we lost a lot, apart from the loss of life and treasure, we lost our way in who we used to be. It seems so sad because it could have been better.
At first there was that feeling of togetherness, we clung to each other, in our shock, then, we will rebuild and be
The rest got cut off, but it's word for word. The best part is that you all thought it was her work. Oh well, it's easy to steal someones work that do it yourself.
It's works for me.............
Run away? Why would I run away? Do you mean that when I left the country for work? But let me post that piece of work you friend called her own:
Gingerbread Mamma
Reflections on the Aftermath of September 11, 2001
As we approach the 10th anniversary, I think back
to that awful day and what we lost then and during the ensuing ten years and
sadly are still losing, vast amounts of treasure and most precious of all,
lives of our citizens. Have we learned
anything in the past 10 years, anything at all?
I remember that morning and as the enormity of the
destruction sunk in, I remember thinking, our lives will never be the same
again. Not knowing how change would happen,
but certain it would.
We lost some of our freedoms, the carefree way we traveled,
especially by air. We lost the openness we had toward strangers, our thoughts
of others we don’t know have become suspicious, sometimes wary of their words
and or their motives. We have to be
very protective of our personal information and with whom we may share it
As a country we lost a lot, apart from the loss of life and
treasure, we lost our way in who we used to be. It seems so sad because it
could have been better. At first there
was that feeling of togetherness, we clung to each other, in our shock, then,
we will rebuild and be as strong if not stronger than ever. Other nations, felt
our loss and our grief, standing with us, as we had, for so many of them in
their hour of need.
Then we were told to go shopping, not to bother our pretty
little heads, we will get through this, we will bring the terrorists to
justice, we will hunt those that hurt us no matter what it takes. Not matter what it took, we were going to do
it, whether the law said it was OK or not. It was stated, you are either with
us or you are with the terrorists, no matter what it takes, my way or the
highway.
Now, reading excerpts of VP Cheney’s memoir and watching his
interviews, it comes back like a bad dream, the invasion of Iraq, for weapons
of mass destruction, none were ever found. The loss of life, over four thousand
American lives, countless hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Over a hundred thousand American service people
injured there, many of them so seriously they will require ongoing health
services for the rest of their lives.
For all this and so much more, he has no regrets.
For the first term of the Bush administration, he was, for
all intents and purposes the President, he pushed for military action in Iraq. We will be greeted with flowers and cheers he
said, as he bulled his agenda through because George Bush was never cut out to
be president. Cheney had manipulated
himself to be VP, and though his daddy had been President, GWB never had any
experience other than the backslapping role of Governor of Texas, the best job
in the world, he told Rick Perry his Lt. Governor.
We found that during this time, torture and abuse were done
in the name of the People of the United States, the Constitution was trampled
on, the moral high ground lost, perhaps forever and the country is now nearly
bankrupt. Some even made political careers out of selling fear.
Out of 9/11 has come the extreme partisanship we see
today. The lack of courtesy and respect
towards those who are different or do things differently, the lack of unity,
the striving towards a common cause, we are all in this together, is no more. M Bin Laden
is gone, yet we still fight his followers as we should and we seem to be doing
it smarter than before with good results.
Bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, he couldn’t
have known that the destruction he wrought that awful day, would balloon into a
financial disaster too, aided by zealots and nincompoops who didn’t figure how
to pay for the wars except put them on a credit card for future generations to
pay, in addition, gave tax cuts to the rich to further dig the hole we fell
into.
What should have
united us, has divided us, and the unscrupulous have taken advantage of it all.
#1 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 9:22 AM EDT
Now what is on the web site I sent you:
Reflections on the Aftermath of September 11, 2001
(A very dear blogger friend of mine posted this…..I just had to share!!!!!!!!!)
As we approach the 10th anniversary, I think back to that awful day and what we lost then and during the ensuing ten years and sadly are still losing, vast amounts of treasure and most precious of all, lives of our citizens.
Have we learned anything in the past 10 years, anything at all?
I remember that morning and as the enormity of the destruction sunk in, I remember thinking, our lives will never be the same again.
Not knowing how change would happen, but certain it would.
We lost some of our freedoms, the carefree way we traveled, especially by air. We lost the openness we had toward strangers, our thoughts of others we don’t know have become suspicious, sometimes wary of their words and or their motives.
We have to be very protective of our personal information and with whom we may share it. As a country we lost a lot, apart from the loss of life and treasure, we lost our way in who we used to be. It seems so sad because it could have been better.
At first there was that feeling of togetherness, we clung to each other, in our shock, then, we will rebuild and be
The best part is that she actually takes credit for it!!! Priceless
Gingerbread Mamma
Thanks all, for this is just a little of what's been lost as I see it. There are so many aspects we should have focused on if only wiser and cooler heads had prevailed.
Now, we can only learn lessons, and be more attentive to what potential candidates say and whom they select as their running mate. For the last two Presidential cycles, Republicans have not chosen wisely.
#1.17 - Thu Sep 8, 2011 9:39 AM EDT
Uh Feisty I dont mean to rain on your parade, but the link that Paul-Florida posted does in fact work. I just looked at the site. So either you didn't copy the whole link, you saw the site and just decided to lie about not seeing it or you didn't even bother to look at it. But the link does work.
@AnaBanana
"Illinois added 30,000 jobs in October. More than any other state. That is not a percentage. That is jobs added. More than California, the largest state even."
hahaha...on the way back?...Sluminois?...30,000 didn't even budge their unemployment rate..
Smellifornia (another defunct cesspool) has added 239,100 jobs this year versus Sluminois' 60,500...not even a contest
Texas added 231,600 this year also stomping Illinoise...Florida added more...New York added more...hahaha...laughable
what Illinoizey has to do with Barney "what he say?" Frank I don't know , but I didn't start it ...hahaha
"In September 2011, Gov. Quinn announced plans for thousands of layoffs and the closing of several state facilities, which he said was required to prevent the state from running out of money in spring 2012. On Oct. 3, 2011, however, an arbitrator ruled that the governor could not layoff workers or close facilities until July 1, 2012, because of a prior agreement with unions.
Illinois' financial situation is worse than any other state in the country according to a study by the National Conference of State Legislatures, with the state's budget situation called "tenuous at best." The state ended FY2010 in worse shape than any other state, with the state’s general fund balance at negative $4.7 billion, the lowest it has ever been."
Once again Paulie, I ask that you post a link that works...
The mere fact that you haven't proven anything speaks VOLUMES!
Then I will comment & your numb nuts buddy - is not helping your cause! ;o))
link works fine...copy/paste and viola...just not on rental computers
Paul Florida........whomever your dear blogger friend may be, is a liar. My piece was written solely by me and would appear to have been stolen from me.
I challenge you to prove that my piece is not an original as I doubt you would have the courtesy to extend an apology to me.
The website that Paulflorida claims I cut and pasted the following post from September 9 is a junk site. This is what the thief stole from me: I draw your attention to the spelling and poor phrasing at the end of what was stolen.
It probably became one of those wacky emails sent around by some righteous idiot, I should be flattered but I'm not. I feel as if my integrity has been impugned,
Reflections on the Aftermath of September 11, 2001
(A very dear blogger friend of mine posted this…..I just had to share!!!!!!!!!)
As we approach the 10th anniversary, I think back to that awful day and what we lost then and during the ensuing ten years and sadly are still losing, vast amounts of treasure and most precious of all, lives of our citizens.
Have we learned anything in the past 10 years, anything at all?
I remember that morning and as the enormity of the destruction sunk in, I remember thinking, our lives will never be the same again.
Not knowing how change would happen, but certain it would.
We lost some of our freedoms, the carefree way we traveled, especially by air. We lost the openness we had toward strangers, our thoughts of others we don’t know have become suspicious, sometimes wary of their words and or their motives.
We have to be very protective of our personal information and with whom we may share it. As a country we lost a lot, apart from the loss of life and treasure, we lost our way in who we used to be. It seems so sad because it could have been better.
At first there was that feeling of togetherness, we clung to each other, in our shock, then, we will rebuild and be as strong if not stronger than ever. Other nations, felt our loss and our grief, standing with us, as we had, for so many of them in their hour of need.
Then we were told to go shopping, not to bother our pretty little heads, we will get through this, we will bring the terrorists to justice, we will hunt those that hurt us no matter what it takes.
Not matter what it took, we were going to do it, whether the law said it was OK or not. It was stated, you are either with us or you are with the terrorists, no matter what it takes, my way or the highway.
Now, reading excerpts of VP Cheney’s memoir and watching his interviews, it comes back like a bad dream, the invasion of Iraq, for weapons of mass destruction, none were ever found. The loss of life, over four thousand American lives, countless hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
Over a hundred thousand American service people injured there, many of them so seriously they will require ongoing health services for the rest of their lives.
For all this and so much more, he has no regrets.
For the first term of the Bush administration, he was, for all intents and purposes the President, he pushed for military action in Iraq.
We will be greeted with flowers and cheers he said, as he bulled his agenda through because George Bush was never cut out to be president.
Cheney had manipulated himself to be VP, and though his daddy had been President, GWB never had any experience other than the backslapping role of Governor of Texas, the best job in the world, he told Rick Perry his Lt. Governor.
We found that during this time, torture and abuse were done in the name of the People of the United States, the Constitution was trampled on, the moral high ground lost, perhaps forever and the country is now nearly bankrupt.
Some even made political careers out of selling fear.
Out of 9/11 has come the extreme partisanship we see today. The lack of courtesy and respect towards those who are different or do things differently, the lack of unity, the striving towards a common cause, we are all in this together, is no more. M Bin Laden is gone, yet we still fight his followers as we should and we seem to be doing it smarter than before with good results.
Bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, he couldn’t have known that the destruction he wrought that awful day, would balloon into a financial disaster too, aided by zealots and nincompoops who didn’t figure how to pay for the wars except put them on a credit card for future generations to pay, in addition, gave tax cuts to the rich to further dig the hole we fell into.
What should have united us, has divided us, and the unscrupulous have taken advantage of it all.
The blogger wished to remain anonymous do to ugliness that so openly expressed these days towards those exercising their right to speak out according to First Amendment of the United States of America!!!!
I personally would like to say I will never forget 9/11 and
those who fallen because of it!
Sincerely, K!
Feisty,
They aren't just ill-informed,...they are LESS informed than people not watching ANY news!
I mean you have to scrape the bottom of the barrell to find this level of ignorance. And they are so PROUD of it,...it's just TOO funny! Good times,...
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-22/news/30431182_1_fox-news-results-show-viewers
This took all of about 10 seconds to debunk,...
Gingerbread's commentary was posted on this site on September 8th at 9:22a and the FriendBurst post occurred on September 10th at 9:03p,...
A full two and a half days later,...REALLY! Now someone wants to imply that GBMama STOLE it? 2 1/2 days PRIOR to it being posted somewhere else?
That is how desperate these trolls are to discredit someone,...
I know GBMama and she's never stolen anything a day in her life. She has more integrity than a troll like Paul could every DREAM to have. What a putz for the phony accusation.
Nice work Clara...
Now, the question is whether or not Paul has the testicular fortitude to APOLOGIZE to Gingerbread Mamma...
I'm not going to hold my breath!
Gingerbread,
I don't know if it was a junk site or not. But you know what I'll do, I'll e-mail this person of the site and ask where they got it from.
Maybe I don't have to do so, I just seen that Clara posted on her blog. Let's wait and see.
Red,
Now why can everyone else see it but you? This Freebird seems to a Liberal and hopefully she will say where she found it. Either way this Freebird says the blogger want to remain anonymous. Hopefully she will tell the truth.
Clara,
If it took 10 seconds to debunk, why did you leave your comment on her blog site? I didn't realize that a "firestorm" as accured? Now why would you call it a "firestorm"? There's no drama.
Hopefully she will say where see got it from. Believe me, I would like to know too!!
My eye sight is just fine Paul - thanks for askin!
What has transpired here is; you ACCUSED Gingerbread Mamma of plagiarism, Clara has debunked your claim & you still do not have the DECENCY to apologize!
I don't care what party this blogger represents - SHE STOLE IT & YOU KNOW IT!
Go have another Corona - sound like you could use one!
See what happens when, you Paul, wrongly accuse someone?
Red,
That I did accuse Gingerbread. So far I see no proof, because I'm now finding this writing on so far 3 Liberal blogs. Heck, I'll give you their names that I have:
Bernie Sanders Gal
Sister Golden Hair
you know the third because Clara is demining where she got it from.
Sorry Red, I don't see as of yet that I'm wrong, nothing has been proven. Based on you and your Liberal friends record and reading your lil club you guys had that someone left open for all to read, you really don't have much credibility in peoples eyes.
I don't know who stole it and I really don't care who did. It seems you three do and maybe you might want to ask those people. If it WAS stolen, it's funny has hell that it was taken from another Liberal!!!
Paul,
The best way to get to the truth is to ask the question. It is just as easy for YOU to check the date stamp of a post as it is for ME to do so. The fact that you didn't bother says everything I need to know about you.
It is obvious you don't have the character to apologize. And it's a firestorm because an accusation of PLAGIARISM is offensive. The mere suggestion without attempting to get to the facts is a dirty tactic we expect from say O'Keefe, Brietbart maybe even Romney; but some of us don't appreciate the wrongful arrest and conviction.
PS. You cared enough to smear someone, you should care enough to clean up your mess.
Bye Bye Barney. And take that coffee table with you will ya? You know, the one you've had trouble conversing with?
The only reason Barney was re-elected so many times was because he ran in MA. The idiots in MA who vote strictly by the letter D would re-elect Sudam Hussien if his name appeared on a ballot with a D next to it.
MA has elected convicted fellons (Mayor Curley - while he was in jail I might add), non-convicted murderers (T. Kennedy), and three speakers of the house - all tried, convicted, and dutrifully slapped on the wrist.
It's good to be a D in MA. You can literally get away with murder.
Clara,
Funny that you think that I'm on the Right, so that's you're first mistake. Second, I won't apologies on something that hasen't been proven by you. I seen what you wrote to this Firestorm and I would also like to hear how she got it too.
But you and your other friends love to jump at any opportunity to blame the Right on what happens in the world of politics without any proof. So if there's any proof that Gingerbread wrote it, then I will apologies, but to take you and your friends word for it, well you know that won't happen.
Paul,
Where on EARTH did I imply your political affiliation? I point out nasty smear tactics and you immediately get defensive of your political affiliation? You are the one connecting dots, not me.
Fine, be an @ss, don't apologize (that's how you spell it, by the way); but quit acting like YOUR honor has been impugned. No one needs to PROVE a negative,...seems to me the burden of proof should be on you for making sh!t up. But I can tell that's not how you roll.
Good luck with that victim act. And again, screw you for implying a negative without PROOF. You remind me of another hateful @sswipe,...Have you met Donna from Lincroft?
"screw you for implying a negative without PROOF"
hahaha...that is right out of the David Axelrod , Rahm Emanuwhatever , liberal neo-communist playbook!...and a liberal complaining about it's use...now that's some funny azz stuff!
Harry, I gather following along isn't your strong suit?
Paul has accused an honorable blogger of plagiarism and I am now the one using a 'playbook'?
Priceless, you just can't make this sh!t up. But here's something along the same vein as Paul's behavior. I wonder why he and you are so vociferously piling on this faux drama? I decided it must be because you are both devoid of any substance. Therefore you go around accusing others as a means of projecting your own behaviors onto other people in the hopes that no one will call you on your BS.
I think you are both thieves and liars. Now, come on and PROVE that you AREN'T.
"Paul has accused an honorable blogger of plagiarism and I am now the one using a 'playbook'?"
........yes
hmmm...again we see that the COH doesn't apply to liberal viners...interesting
Too bad this piece of @!$%# can still screw the American taxpayer by collecting a pension.....I hope he drops dead before cashing his first one.....
so you would be ok with us hoping you drop dead? Turn about is fair play!
RedDev- who the hell is "us"?..........and unlike this pustule Frank, I never got a dime from the American taxpayer......
Every street you drive on, subway you take, sidewalk you walk on, your police protection, fire protection, all paid by the American taxpayer - so you are getting money from us. Jeez, nyc, stop killing your brain cells at Fox.
"we" obviously did not spend enough dimes on your pubic education.
Red, don't think nyc has much education.
Phine and Red......I guess you two twits represent the "i can't suck enough taxes from the working American" contingent... @!$%#s like you never work for a living....good luck sucking Barney off on MSNBC tonight......
Phine .. I think nyc has proved us wrong. The perfect spelling of @!$%#s clearly demonstrates an educated mind. Although, we were chastised in grade school for calling people names, such as twit. Perhaps that was allowed at some public schools.
[I never got a dime from the American taxpayer......]
And this idiot lives in NYC? So, "nycguy"...are you ignorant of the facts, or just a little slow from spending waaaay too much time on the subway platform....
Take it back over to Fox Nation or The Blaze, and spare yourself further embarrassment.
Mickey- how stupid can you possibly be to equate using the subway or driving in your car on a public road to living off public pensions or waiting for your welfare check to arrive. You ignoramuses obviously lack the gray matter to distinguish between the two.
And right wingers persist in assuming that everyone of the 59M people who voted for President Obama is an idiot or a welfare drone. The data tells us that Obama got a clear majority of college graduates, and that the unemployment rate for those is below 4%. Many of us have successful careers in the private sector and are taxpayers. We also are smart enough to recognize that the country is in a financial hole because we're spending too much on a couple of wars of choice, welfare for corporations, and tax laws that transfer wealth from the middle class to the rich. What the Federal government spends on pensions and welfare for individuals would not even constitute a rounding error in the budget deficit.
Why do some compare him with Newt? I'm quite sure that Bwarney Fwank would prefer to to be thought of because of his own merits.
Yes Lonesome, I only hope more is taken out.
Promises, promises - - - - !
Good riddance to bad rubbish!!! Seeeee-yah, Barney!
Joe, My thoughts exactly.
Well good ridance to Frank. He realized that a left wing liberal queer could not get re-elected again along with the rest of the left wing liberal democrats so he decided to go home to his "boyfriend". Bo, Ho. The country will be a better place without him. Frank could not carry the towel Newt would use to wipe his brow. Come on now all you left wing liberal weird pinkoohs. Jump on this posting. See you in 2012. HA, HA, HA, HA.
Now he can concentrate on helping his 'boyfriend' run the gay prostitution ring from his home.
Run the ring and sell pot!
Another trollster putting fantasies on Barney. tsk, tsk.
Care to provide the proof for that statement, laguna? What about you stormrider54?
See my post above
Th prostitution ring was a lie. Reps still repeat that lie
ADMINS:
MORE GAY SLURS AND POSTING OF LIES. PLEASE, GET THIS UNDER CONTROL.
WHY ARE ANTI-GAY SLURS BEING ALLOWED?
Barney sees the handwriting on the wall so he's getting out before he becomes part of the minority party in the Senate under a GOP president. His tax and spend days are over and that's no fun.
Silly post. Barney's not in the Senate. Maybe you should get more edumacation before you post again!
Goodbye Barney and Barrack is going with you. You can contaminate Mass and barrack can contaninate Illinois.
Good riddence to both
so what does a retired congressman receive for his/her pension?
i'm pretty sure its alot more than i could ever hope for and i make six figures.
vote all incumbents out...we will force term limits.
Lauananananana.....check it out. I believe that the career politicians get something like $174,400, the president gets $180,000 for life and the Speaker of the House gets something like $235,000. Maybe it's because he can serve more than two terms. Not sure on that point. Check out what taxes were on the board from Congress. Supposedly the career politicians do not want to increase taxes on people making up to ....gues what???? $174,400. The exact amount of their retirements. Tell me our Government isn't riddled with fraud and corruption.
And they each still get a pension and benefits afterwards.
So, until we can get rid of pensions and post-job benefits....
How about voting quality the first time around, and keeping it in, so that the official gets committee seniority. Then, when the official finally retires a few terms later, there's only one getting the retirement bennies, instead of an idiot every term.
Good riddance. Follow Dodd into retirement after you two did more, through housing, to screw up our economy than ANYBODY...and that includes Wall Street (which couldn't have sold those useless bonds had not Dodd and Frank sponsored legislation allowing those with no biz of buying a house that opportunity). Time for an Occupy Barney Frank movement. Doubt there's any room down there though.
What Dodd-Barney legislation was passed causing the housing bubble? Do you mean the Dodd-Barney Act, which was passed after the housing market crash?
Shhh. Red, don't confuse these wingnuts with facts. Their brains will explode.
Phine -- ever notice that when you ask them to back up a statement, they seem to scurry like rats back into their nests? Maybe it is the sound of them scurrying over to Fox to ask how to respond.
MORE INFO ON THE LIB SAVIOUR ROFLMAO
The Birth Certificate This just will not go away……And for good reasons,,,, “Very Interesting Bit Of Detective Work” ...
1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes.' So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is 'African-American' when the term wasn't even used at that time?
2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in " Kenya, East Africa ". This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
Resources: POST-COLONIAL HISTORY (from Wikipedia):
And CNN and the rest of the state run media continue to ignore this .....See More— in Nairobi, Kenya.
Nobody cares. You just wasted time writing this.
Wikipedia also notes that Barney Frank was either Fred Flinstone's neighbor or a large purple dinosaur. It is a great source for accurate information.Just as after Sarah Palin's account of Paul Revere, that got updated.
More Birther nonsense!
1) I was around in 1961, and the term "African-American" was in general use by then.
2) The area of the British Crown Colony of East Africa that later was to become Kenya was also known as the "Colony of Kenya" beginning in 1920.
3) Check this out:
A Brief History of Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
In 1890, using inherited land from her deceased sister on the condition it would be used to help Hawaiian maternity mothers, Queen Kapiʻolani, raised $8,000 and founded the Kapiʻolani Home of the Hoolu and Hoola Lahui Society.
Throughout the years the needs of mothers having babies grew and more property needed to be acquired and eventually in 1918 the home moved to a two-story house with 25 beds. It was then when the name was first changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home and for the first time the doors were opened to all women, not just Hawaiians.
In 1929, as the needs continued to grow the home moved again to a larger building with 50 beds and expanded its mission to the study and treatment of non-infectious gynecological problems.
Three years later, in 1931, the name was changed to the Kapiʻolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.
This is the name of the facility that appeared on the long form certificate of live birth of Barack Hussein Obama II.
The hospital kept this name until 1971, ten years after the birth of Barack Obama, when they changed its name to Kapiʻolani Hospital. Between 1929 and 1977 this facility delivered 145,000 babies.
Bagboy... The reason we are in this mess is in 2002 the Bush/Cheany duo wanted and got de-regulation of housing, banks and big oil etc. Do you recall WHO said get Rid of those regulations and let the banks and business do what they do best?
It sure wasn't Frank or Dodd. You need to turn off fox and study history (not from Newt though) Do you get out much?
Wikipedia isn't even a credible source for elementary school reports.
In my school district, students aren't allowed to cite it as a factual reference.
praysalot - you're an uninformed liberal fool.
Democratic House and Senate that was looking after their own interests too. Vote em all out - ALL. That way if we keep replacing them they may do their job and keep the lobbyists spending their money trying to find a candidate that will stick - we just don't have to keep the same old rusty turds in office.
Bye Bonny Fwank, good riddance.
Now, now, children, BE NICE!! Oh, I forgot where I was..