If the energy is native, Republicans will capture it. 99% winning and will be heard.

Carpe diem, Mr. President.

Excellent thoughts Jack!

It is so good to see him taking it to the people!

Pen,

I haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about--some kind of malfunction in your system? It came out garbled.

Feisty,

I'm still laughing like hell over a comment you made to Smiff in an earlier post.

Isn't something that the president can respond to the people without getting all testy like a lot of the GOP field. Good for you, Mr. President.

jack

lol......read me more often and you'll know where i stand.

The president handled this very well. If Cain or Bachmann had to deal with the same crowd we would have had headlines instead of a spot on First Read. The protesters had a valid message as well, but the president doesn't control the states and municipalities. These students know what their grandparents did and know they can change the world. I urge them to act peacefully and to eschew violence and vandalism. Find a farm outside of town to camp on, and let your message sink in without raising the ire of tea party folks who had the money to stay at the Hilton. OCS, please get your message out there in a way that will bring people into your camp! You want to save a generation. The tea party stands for allowing millions to sink into poverty while the tp gets a bigger tax rebate check for themselves in the mailbox. Who has the noble cause? Who is looking out for number one? It's pretty clear.

Too bad he's lost the actual voters in New Hampshire.

It must be pretty bad if the reporters here at MSNBC are compelled to point it out.

Well at least he's a hit with the 'down twinkles' crowd. And why not - Obama is totally anti-Wall Street.

You know they totally appreciate that.

So Wayne, what was the OWS-ers valid message?

You in favor of waiving all student loan debt? And really what another Trillion to add to the debt?

Plus it seems fair, right Wayne?

I guess the fact that OWS people interrupted Obama's speech kind of shoots down the conspiracy theory that Obama is really behind it all, along with George Soros. Oh wait! Obama and Soros probably just staged the interruption of his speech to throw off the fearless rightwing conspiracy theorists. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Excellent response President Obama. A politician willing to address OWS. Unlike the chicken Bachmann who was so afraid she left the stage, or the vile take a shower get a job comments by Snooty-Newty.

don't bathe me, bro

don't bathe me.....

That's a good one.

Although I'm guessing the UC Davis kids took a long hot shower after getting doused.

So gang, what is the over/under on the UC Davis President's annual salary?

I'm guessing with pension and benefits it's around $500k.

She is clearly an evil 1%-er. Funny part is I bet she is as libbie as they come. Bummer for her, she's on the way out.

I'm still laughing like hell over a comment you made to Smiff in an earlier post.

That one is a tough old 'bird'... lol

@Spanky - Although I agree with you that student loans shouldn't be forgiven, I do believe that it should be easier to pay back or make arrangements. From my own personal experience, I had the school loans, my daughter was being born, my (now ex) losing her job, as well as several other issues. Long story short, my car was smashed into by a drunk driver, I ended up losing my job (I informed the DoE that I had lost my job and that payments may fluctuate the day that it happened), and using my savings to continue supporting the three of us, and my ex left me and started child support proceedings up a week later. When I asked the DoE for an extension or a "break" when I finally found work again so that I could catch up on my bills they just said "no."

As of right now I have a job, and am all caught up including my student loan, drive 85 miles every other week to see my daughter, and continuing my education (without student loan assistance), but it would have been extremely helpful if I had some time to recover from the life altering changes that all happened in an extremely short period of time.

@Rob - Just drop that "Don't bathe me bro" thing. Its rude, uncalled for, and demeaning not only to yourself, but any position you take.

Those are some tough times Goose. Problem is debt is a bitch. You are already allowed to defer student loans, consolidate it, and pay interest only.

I can think of no other type of loan that allows such favorable treatment.

This is compounded by the fact that the default rate is sky high. Lenders are hard pressed to give more concessions because so many simply don't pay.

Keep pressing forward, at this point it can only get better.

[I guess the fact that OWS people interrupted Obama's speech kind of shoots down the conspiracy theory that Obama is really behind it all...]

Houston, you just took the air out of Spanky's talking point for the thread...he sure do loves him some "conspiracy"...

But on to better things:

[Although I'm guessing the UC Davis kids took a long hot shower after getting doused.]

Soooo, Spanks...maybe there is some pro-bono work for you in the near future? I mean, all those Patriotic Americans having their constitutional rights trampled on...whether you think they are "smelly" or not.

Unless you think the whole aspect of someone stepping up to the plate and standing up for somthing bigger than you'll ever be is not worthy of your time?

Here's your big chance, "counselor"...you do love the constitution, right? Or only those parts that conveniently fit your bass-ackwards "opinion"? Help a brutha out, OK? I know it's not real estate, or traffic court, but you just might learn something.

Big chance Spanks...don't let it slip through your grubby little stubbies.

@Spanky - Well usually, and once again just personal experience. If you keep the bank/loan holder in the loop of issues, they tend to look more favorably on deferments and such. They'd rather have you tell them what going on then having to find out...and usually before something happens and not at the last minute. The student loan was the weird one for me, because my bank (who I also had a loan through), gave me a six month deferment, and I got my new job about three days before the deadline, and they gave me another month to get back on my feet. I'm sure I was lucky in this case, but I've noticed a general trend in my dealings with creditors in many situations.

I digress, the student loan was the only one that did not allow me to defer, and still to this day will not let me consolidate, even though I've been early on all my payments for the last few months.

Howdy Mickey.

Still all about me, eh? It is so flattering that I am the 'better things' for you.

That really is sweet Mickey.

[Still all about me, eh?]

That is what you crave, right toadie? Here's your big chance...stand up for patriotic americans from across this great land...defend a 99% er...

Just think about it "counselor"...you name in lights...all the attention you crave, and you won't have to slum past the first half of the page....they'll be chanting your name...

...span-KY...

...span-KY...

...span-KY...

You'll be the hero you never were, Spanks...go for it...you can do it...

...can't you...?

No, you can't.

You are already allowed to defer student loans, consolidate it, and pay interest only.

I can think of no other type of loan that allows such favorable treatment.

This is compounded by the fact that the default rate is sky high. Lenders are hard pressed to give more concessions because so many simply don't pay.

This is only true if the loan is government backed. Most private student loans do not allow any sort of deferment, consolidation, or payment of interest only. And in the case of most student loans, which are government backed, why would a lender care what the default rate is? He's going to get his money from you and I.

Once again Spanky over simplifies and misleads. SOP, and if you're a lawyer dude you're either a broke one or you have a floor full of legal assistants who do the real work, because you can't get any work done with all the trolling you do here. Only so many hours in a day and even you can't come up with something to mislead people into thinking otherwise.

Just be sure to keep up the good work, ok Mickey. I just know you will.

But I'll leave the 99%-ers to you my man. Go out and protect them. I am not one of them and have no interest in them but for the fact that the sure are amusing.

So it's more up-twinkles for you Mickey.

Amused - that is not my experience. My private loans all allowed consolidation, after an extensive deferment.

And that's the point Amused - we get screwed when they default. and that's bad.

And finally Amused I am a lawyer dude and I have a crack staff that includes lawyers, paralegals and secretaries.

Like I always say Amused - it is always better to have workers working for you, as opposed to working for someone else.

Oh and amongst the fun I have been having here I have finished two page line summaries so far, and gone to Nordstroms and picked up some nice leather gloves. Getting cold around here Amused.

A lot of No Value from you know who again.

Do people forget that not long ago higher education was free and/or really inexpensive? It is projected that tuition will double again. The conversations that OWS has started about our system, which is broken on so many levels, and inequality whether wealth and more importantly just in regard to opportunity is greatly needed and way past due.

Excellent points made above about the Obama/Soros conspiracy theories, and about the thoughtful way in which the president responded to OWS.

Ging-Grinch's comments about taking a bath and then getting a job was SO offensive -- Because it was pulled out of an old 1960s playbook. These protesters and the large swath of Americans who support the movement aren't hippies. And there aren't any jobs, thus the reason for protests. Newt is trapped in old school politics, and will die by old school politics.

Mike ChecK!! Mike Check!!

"Obama gets it"

True. Obama gets more Wall Street money than any candidate in history. His Administration was taken over by Wall Street insiders.

Obama is the 1%.

Oh and hey - you all see that kick ass lake house Michael "I'm a 99%-er" Moore has?

Pretty simple really:

You got spare keys to your house, you are a 99%-er.

You got spare houses, you are likely a 1%-er.

How about you Amy - you got spare keys or spare houses?

Man, the income equality is terrible. Moore sitting on fat stack of cash and multiple houses, Obama surrounded by Wall Street fat cats.

Speaking of which - Corzine has now 'lost' $1.2 billion of his investors money.

That's Obama's "guy on wall street" the very guy Biden "goes to for advice."

Yep Amy Obama gets it all right.

Down twinkles all around.

Spanky,

Amy doesn't deserve your taunting. She brings more sheer exuberance to these posts than anyone out there. She's positive, she has good energy--whether you agree with her positions or not, it's a breath of fresh air to read her posts.

By contrast your posts are uniformly negative. You're like a kid who stands just out of reach of a chained dog and keeps poking at it with a sharp stick.

But spanky - wasn't John Kennedy a 1%?

You just truly don't get it do you... or do you not get it on purpose?

How 'bout that AIG... 1%'s suing USA for another 25 billion. Never stops does it spank? Give an inch and they try to confiscate a hundred miles.

What is the purpose? Can you tell us that?

What you miss - consciously or otherwise - it htat 1%/teanuts/republicans have mistaken kindness and non-violent acceptance for weakness. And now you've gone too far.

We know Jack. Amy has come out and said she would walk over hot coals for Obama. Plus she thought Carter was a great president.

Poking with a stick Jack? Not unless you are a dog. So how about it Jack - spare keys or spare houses? That is a question, not a taunt.

Unless you are Mike Moore, who just flat out lies about it so he can be apart of the 'cause.'

Ok Not as Stupid - 's[lain it to me. The Kennedys are certainly the 1%, which got old Teddy out of a murder rap.

I have not missed it Not. Obama is a 1%-er. He has surrounded himself with Wall Street people. His Cabinet is fantastic. and super rich.

It is why he is such a hit with the OWS-ers. Now don't get me wrong - I love the little guys. They are super amusing.

Up twinkles all around.

So what is your point spankmester?

Oh! I see... you have none - just want to be a troll....

Try some research = believe you'll find the OWS is NOT as you perceive, at least as you depict in your posts on here. And for that matter, ditto for your definition of the 1%.

Stupid - you brought up the Kennedys, not me.

So that'd make you the troll?

But the 'point' goes to Amy original comment - Obama gets it, republicans don't. Funny, right? Great with OWS-ers and Banksters.

So how about you Not - spare keys or spare houses?

I'm just J - did you see that lake house Moore has? It is spectacular.

But I asked you about AIG....

spare houses??? spare keys?? Please enlighten us...

Moore's house? How does it compare with mitten's expanded beach home? The term "home" is used, but "arena" may be better as big as he is building it.

So how about it Jack - spare keys or spare houses? That is a question, not a taunt.

What's the point of the question?

Unless you are Mike Moore, who just flat out lies about it so he can be apart of the 'cause.'

Uh-huh. At a OWS rally a couple of weeks ago Michael Moore said he was part of the 1%. So, no lies there. Do your homework for once instead of making random accusations.

Here's a story. See if you can make the connection with what I said earlier. When Rush Limbaugh was a teenager, he was taunted on the playground by rednecks his age for being overweight. Day in and day out they drove him to tears. You would think today that he would hate rednecks. But the Stockholm Syndrome set in, and now he spends every day trying to get the approval of the kids who tormented him back then.

...Amy original comment - Obama gets it, republicans don't.

And the above exchange PROVES beyond any doubt that Amy's statement is absolutely correct ipso facto!

You understand latin a little don't you spank? Ever come accross that term in your job?

GOOD JOB AMY!

Michael Moore has been running from his 1% status since day #1. The guy is super-rich and as Spanky says, he has a kick-a** lake house to show for it.

The hypocrisy of Obama to try and tap into the OWS loons. The OWS hate everyone, they just want free government stuff for themselves. Obama is a Wall Street whore, he's owned and operated on what to do by the so called 1%-ers on Wall Street. To have Obama say he understands the OWS is pure folly and an absolute joke. You Libs just cannot come to terms with the fact that Obama is such a hypocrite to your expectations of him.

Hot coals Libs. That's what you'll walk over for this Obama character. The question is why?

So he's a nasty flip-flopper, eh Jack? Cause I have seen him deny it several times, which is funny cause he's worth about $50 million. Guess that's what happens when you get caught in the lies - you get honest real fast.

I take it that's a no on the spare houses. Sorry to hear that Jack.

Not - of course good job Amy. I love Amy. She, and Jody and Feisty are some of the best set up guys in the business. On a personal level I just wish Amy had made some different choices.

Getting by on a hourly wage, with little to no retirement plan at her age has got to be a bad feeling.

Amy: Obama gets it, republicans don't.

What's Obama get? A solution to the unemployment problem? He even said if that problem was solved at the end of his third year he'd a one term President. So he doesn't understand how to fix the unemployment problem, but he does understand the consequences. Does Obama understand the anemic GDP, just revised downward to 2.0%? Again he has no clue how to fix it, but he does understand that it has not so good consequences for himself. Food stamps to record levels, poverty to record levels, unemployment checks to record levels, bankruptcies to record levels, again Obama has no clue how to fix any of them, but he does understand it's not good news for him.

So if Obama does get anything, he gets that he's a one term President, but he doesn't get much else.

jas: Spank must have been called away, so maybe you will answer the question since you picked up the torch and brought it up in your post: How does Moore's house that you complain about compare with Romney's new beach house (2nd or 3rd, or4th home) in size and ameneties?

And, again, I must refer you to #2.10 above. You've posted your say about the 1% (according to YOUR definition) but you obviously are a republican; as Amy so correctly pointed out: -" Obama gets it, republicans don't. "

sorry.... well, okay - not really.

stupid: as: Spank must have been called away, so maybe you will answer the question since you picked up the torch and brought it up in your post: How does Moore's house that you complain about compare with Romney's new beach house (2nd or 3rd, or4th home) in size and ameneties?

What's your point Stupid? Romney earned his money just like Moore, but Romney doesn't pretend to be something he is not. Moore is a super-Leftist that's says he's all for the little guys and gals, but it appears he's used that method of operation to make a tidy sum of money for himself, much like the super rich executives he takes his ire out on. So Moore is no different than the people he mocks.

And now Moore lies about his financial status in life. Tells you something about a mans core values when he does that, don't you think?

Duhhh....of course President Obama is part of the 1% - and he's usually the first to admit it. Here's just one example of a speech he's probably made a hundred times:

"We’re going to ask the Senate to pay for it (the jobs bill) by making sure that folks like me are paying their fair share, and if I’m paying my fair share, then you get a tax cut or a tax break,” Obama told an audience at Greensville County High School in Emporia, Va., near the North Carolina border......[P]eople like me can afford to pay a little bit more,” the president said. "Now understand, we’re talking about the top 1, 2 percent of people at the very top of the income scales. And we can afford it. We don’t need a tax cut." (emphasis mine)

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-touts-tax-hike-top-1-2-percent-folks-me

If there's a point to this latest "sharp stick", I guess as usual I'm missing it.

@ Stupid No comparison, one is in La Jolla, CA and one is on Lake Michigan. Housing prices will be drastically different in CA versus Michigan. The point is Michael Moore is a big hypocrite going to OWS and acting like he is with the people all the while actually being a "1%".

Moore's house is a palatial estate on a lake.

Romney's house ain't that great and is old.

Google the pictures - there is no comparison.

But LOCATION is everything. La Jolla is some of the most expensive raw land on the planet. Michigan, not so much.

But let's be honest - what business would Moore have on the beach in So. Cal.?

That dude is the about as unhealthy as you can get and still have a pulse. In other words a perfect shill for Obamacare.

Man, am I excited about paying for health care for someone who is morbidly obese.

ksw62118. A person can support the Occupy movement and be part of the 1%. You're excused for assuming that having money equates to some inability to recognize the hardships and unfairness in the system. Why do you think Warren Buffet urges raising the top tax bracket? Not because he wants to pay more taxes but because he gets the destructive path we've been on for 30 years. There's a point at which accumulating wealth at the expense of everyone else has a detrimental affect on the country as a whole. When the lower and middle classes do well, the wealthy do well. It is the middle and lower wage earners that are the primary economic drivers. Wealthy people like Warren Buffet, Michael Moore and the Patriotic Millionaires recognize that.

Jody, Iowa: A person can support the Occupy movement and be part of the 1%.

So you make gobs of money of the "little people" like Moore who owns a mansion ain Michigan, and say you're for the OWS. So like with Obama you can rub shoulders with Wall Street types at his fund raisers, and say he's for the OWS. So you can be a billionaire and say "Tax me! Tax me!" and fight paying your taxes like Buffet does, and say you're for the OWS.

That is just pathological.

I take it that's a no on the spare houses

I didn't say that. I asked what your point was and you punted. So I will answer for you. There is no point; the question is irrelevant. Do you know what a non sequitur is? Look it up because it typifies your posts. Random potshots, no substance.

You didn't respond to the Rush story. Hits too close to home, eh?

In the past I've heard Michael Moore deflect questions about the amount of his wealth--and why shouldn't he? It's none of anyone's business, unless he decides he wants to talk about it.

Romney earned his money just like Moore

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! You're killing us here, Smiff. Romney inherited his money. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! You'll say anything to make the rest of us double up with laughter.

@Jack You are naive if you think that is why Moore deflects the questions. He is part of what I call the limousine liberals. He wants to act like he is part of the every day folks and that he feels their pain when in reality he just wants someone else to pay for it. As for Buffet I have no respect for him either when his corporation owes so much in back taxes. Nothing is stopping him from paying more of what he considers his fair share. I say your actions speak louder than your rhetoric and put your money where your mouth is.

ksw,

He wants to act like he is part of the every day folks and that he feels their pain when in reality he just wants someone else to pay for it.

Your cynicism is unbecoming. I suppose you think Jesus was "acting" too. (And no, I'm not comparing Moore to Jesus. It's an analogy to get you to confront yourself. Not that I hold out any hope you'll actually do so. . . .)

Nothing is stopping him from paying more of what he considers his fair share.

That's just too idiotic to respond to--so I won't. You need to sit down and think from time to time instead of just tossing off a knee-jerk reaction.

@Jack you know nothing of my religious affiliation so I would say you are the one with the knee jerk reaction. I just don't have much affection for hypocrites. Your optimism is unrealistic. I love those liberals who say they represent everyone and then start tossing out the insults for anyone who doesn't follow their party line exactly.
By the way what exactly is topping Buffet's company from paying their back taxes? I didn't know the IRS turned away money.

you know nothing of my religious affiliation

ksw,

What in the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about religion? I'm talking about Jesus the historical figure. Are you so illiterate that you don't understand he was a philosopher? Suppose the subject was violence and I mentioned Gandhi? Would you then say, "Jack you know nothing of my religious affiliation. . . ?" Start showing some maturity!

And who said I'm a liberal? Maybe I'm a Progressive. Or a Socialist. Do you even know the difference? Educate yourself!

@ Jack a little touchy there aren't you? I think your maturity level is showing since your only response is to resort to 8th grade school yard tactics of insulting the intelligence of someone who disagrees with you.

intelligence

Show some and the insulting will go away. You're just parroting what other people are saying--without realizing that a lot of them are simply being disingenuous. Do some critical thinking on your own, for god's sake.

I think your maturity level is showing since your only response is to resort to 8th grade school yard tactics of insulting the intelligence of someone who disagrees with you.

I have very conservative friends with whom I disagree. But they can stop me in my tracks with an observation that makes me think of the question in a different way. I don't necessarily change my views, but it gives me another perspective on the matter. You, by contrast, just annoy me with your silly, simplistic parroting. If you would show some original thinking you'd get my respect.

@ Jack I could take any of your posts verbatim and it would sound exactly the same as any of the regular FR lib posters. You think you are intellectually superior to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Sorry not buying your "parroting" of the party line or the fact that anyone could stop and make your think.

ksw,

Nope. You're still not getting it. Go back and read Spanky's posts. There is one HUGE difference between his posts and yours. I'm not going to tell you what it is. If you can figure it out on your own you'll be several steps ahead of the others who parrot. It will be an "Ah-hah!" moment.

On my side of the Great Divide, read some of David Walker's posts. He's a thinker. And there are many others. We don't watch Rachel Maddow and others on MSNBC uncritically. By contrast, those of you who watch Fox nod your heads to everything O'Reilly says.

Jack typical elitist response making assumptions about my viewing habits. I have never watched Fox news or O'Reilly, Beck or anyone of that ilk. I know the difference between a pundit and a true journalist, my brother is a newspaper editor. Do you know the difference?

Yep. I worked for a newspaper many years ago.

Got to get on to other things. Bye.

Bob - only if you can actually think and reason you'll see things like disparity in incomes like the 99% are seeing.

PEN, "think and reason"; dirty words for brainless leftists.

Good grief, booby. You are getting worse, hon. Better get that midol out of the 2nd drawer and take it with a glass of prune juice.

So?

Everyone has the opportunity to earn what their talents and brains can bring them.

They also have the opportunity to sit around and whine that they have less.

It's a choice thing.

I had lunch with a friend today, and she was waxing philosophical about income disparities. Funny thing about that- the "wealthy"are paying more in taxes than fifty one per centof Americans- who pay nothing- yet, they use less of the services they fund for the majority.

They are less likely to live in high crime areas- therefore, they use less of the police services in their communities.

They are more likely to send their children to private schools- while still paying public school taxes, to say nothing of the federal taxes.

They are more likely to send their children to private colleges and universities- while still paying
the state taxes that keep those institutions running- to say nothing of the federal taxes.

They certainly do no take food stamps, section 8 housing, Medicaid, or any of the other "safety net" programs they fund.

When you look at it clearly, it is little wonder that the 51% demand that they pay even more in federal tax dollars- they want more stuff- and the liberals keep whining that it is "fair".

So, riddle me this- is it "fair" that there are merit scholarships? I mean the ones based on brains, of course. After all, not everyone has the same I.Q., right? So, given liberal thinking, I guess you believe that merit scholarships should go to the kids who achieve LESS- you know, to level the playing field.

How about sports scholarships? Is it fair that some kids have talent, and others don't? Maybe it would be "fairer" to give the funds to kids who lack any coordination.

We definitely need to make the open slots on the Olympic teams fairer. After all, the kid who can't throw a javelin deserves a spot on the track and field team as much as the kid who can, right?

I am, actually, beginning to understand the liberal mindset. It seems that one can spend ones life doing absolutely nothing- or putting in, at best, a minimal effort- yet be deserving of riches and accolades.

Because, after all, that's "only fair".

The economy is global today...so THINK globally. Relative to other countries, the USA is still just about the safest nation on Earth in which to hold wealth. All of those social programs you note help create a stable society, under the rule of law, which respects the right of private property, the sanctity of contract, and has the oldest continuous form of democratic government on the planet under the same written Constitution.

And...of course...if you think it isn't "worth it," you are also free to take your wealth and leave.

Hmmm...reminds me of the old Vietnam Era cry of the right: "Love It or Leave It!"

No Jo you don't have a clue about the liberal mindset. Because if you were smart enough to understand the liberal mind, you would be one.

If hating President Obama created jobs or improved our economy, we would all be riding in golden carriages.

Obama/Biden 2012

Smart enough to understand the liberal mind... Good one AF.

So Americans First - how you liking what Corzine did? How does it sit with you all the great things Obama and Biden have said about him?

How about that he used his influence to run off the regulators, some of whom where ex-staffers of his?

It's all good, right AF?

Cause you know, Corzine is a big old liberal just like you.

So where is that $1.2 billion he stole?

Bob-1887910, contributing to stupid conspiracy mongering:

If the protesters were true anti-establishment rebels, they would have yelled "Jon Corzine"!

But they wont. They are the poodles of the statist establishment. Paid for by billionaire Wall Street crook George Soros and crooked radical unions.

See my previous post. The "interruption" of Obama's speech must have been staged by Obama himself and George Soros just to throw off fearless wingnut conspiracy theorists like Bob. Sure. Uh, huh.

Silly game, which can be played indefinitely...accusation and counter-accusation. Tell you what, google "Roland Arnall." Read his story and then tell me if you think Obama will name Corzine Ambassador to The Netherlands, after this?

Note: Arnall was founder and CEO of Ameriquest, once the largest subprime lender in the country. He was also Bush's largest individual contributor in the 2004 campaign. Following Ameriquest's agreement to settle fraudulant lending claims by Attorney-State Generals for over $300 million, Bush named him Ambassador to The Netherlands.

Well then it's a good thing Bush is gone, right?

Or is it two wrongs make it A-OK for Obama?

Wait, I know - it's "but, but, BBBBUUUSSSHHH di it!!!!"

Now you're catching on....;;hahahahahahahaha

Yes. It IS good that Bush is gone. No. Two wrongs do not make a right. What exactly was it that Obama did that was wrong? Are you implying that Obama knew about something Corzine did that was illegal before his firm went upside down? Interesting. Do you have a link to that story?

Guess I'll wait to complain until AFTER Corzine's company agrees to pay up and AFTER Obama names him as Ambassador to The Netherlands.

That 1.2 billion Corzine stole is in the same place as the New Jersey pension funds he gambled with- down a rat hole.

Difference is- this time, I think ol'Jonny's headed to the pen. The statue on this crime won't run out before the election- so we'll have an attorney General interested in locking the door behind him.

How do you "know" that Corzine "stole" the money?

stone6

How do you "know" that Corzine "stole" the money?

To nojonobo, if a Demcrat gets involved in irresponsible leveraging, it's stealing. If a Republican does it, it's free enterprise. But be kind to her. As here screen name implies, she has a serious case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.

Ah...OK.

Stole, lost, no matter.

Google fiduciary responsibility.

Houston this is not the leveraging part - he lost tons of money there - like $40 billion.

This is about the $1.6 that was supposed to be in the client trust accounts. Houston, you know the accounts your brokers hold for you so you can quickly and smartly make trades?

So Houston - the money is 'missing' so where did it go?

[Google fiduciary responsibility.]

...and another talking point...way. to. go..."counselor"..

[So Houston - the money is 'missing' so where did it go?]

And there's the hint at a "conspiracy" theory....wow...you just don;t disappoint, do you toadie?

Say, what's up with you lately, Spanks? You've resorted to slumming waaaaaay down here at the bottom of the page...usually your stopping point is the top half where you can be seen...

Things must be getting desperate in Spanky land, I mean, having to slum waaaay down here for your attention.

Now sit...roll over...SPEAK! Good Spanky...good boy...

Spanky I see your lap dog Mouse is back. Boy is he loyal. He follows your every word. LOL

And I love it ksw. Mickey's bigger issue is he just does not understand what a talking point is, but tosses it out all the time.

Mickey's loyalty is boundless. So focused is he he comments not just on what I say, but where I say it.

Excellent work Mickey.

So come on Mickey - explain how the fact that a stockbroker has a fiduciary duty is a talking point.

Mickey?

If it reflects negatively on the current failed President, it is off topic to First Read, part of Team Obama.

So much for the media.

Sounds like an angry consulting firm. IF they were pressured, they have a valid complaint. What's their evidence?

Unfortunately, your assessment is true, up to a point. America can rebound and probably even surpass itself. The one major flaw in your argument is that people will have to work for goals and defer instant gratification to get there, and that is something that the media certainly doesn't want, nor the advertisers out there...or even our government, as it presently exists.....it has become shameful to be one of the success stories, proof of the American dream. We should all grovel and apologize because work and sacrifice paid nice dividends in the long run. I am still hearing alot of just bone lazy folks hitching their wagons to the liberal agenda and screaming loud and long, but with all those loaded wagons hitched behind, the team of horses are dying in the traces.

read about Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform, Christian Pastors, Lobbyist also Abramoff, their scandal with the Choctaw Indians and Gambiling on the Reservation. Kinda what you are saying. What a Money Scheme.

Wouldn't be the first time that hecklers were paid to gain sympathy for Obama....there were several such incidents during the supposed town hall meetings etc, and the supposed protestors turned out to be paid and ex Acorn types who were coached as to what and when to say things.