Herman Cain is the best nominee in the Republican field.

If Republicans know what is good for them they will line up behind Mr. Cain ASAP.

Cain/Gingrich 2012!

First Read:

But is he right?

Heck, even Ron Christie doesn't seem to like Herman Cain.

So the answer is no.

@ Clara --

Joe doesn't need Fox News to know less. ;-)

Anna - Ron Christie is a neocon nutsack!

Herman Cain is da man! There is nobody liberals like me fear facing in a general election more than Herman Cain.

PS - heehee ha ha!

D*mn it. Forgot that pillow by my chair! Just rebruised that hip again from falling off my chair laughing!

Here's part of the Cain story we DON'T hear about:

Cain clearly believes that his pro-business message is what GOP voters want to hear. So much so, in fact, that on Saturday he officially unveiled his candidacy for the 2012 GOP nomination. But scrubbed from Cain’s official story is his long tenure as a director at a Midwest energy corporation named Aquila that, like the infamous Enron Corporation, recklessly drove into the wild west of energy trading and speculation – and ultimately screwed its employees out of tens of millions of dollars,” Mother Jones reports.

According to a massive class action lawsuit against Aquila’s board of directors – including Cain – he allegedly steered employees into heavily investing their retirement savings in company stock, while at the same time shifting their business model from straightforward energy generation to risky energy trading – the kind of corporate greed that infamously brought down Enron, Mother Jones reports. In the suit, it claims that Cain and other top officials violated a 37-year-old federal law that requires employers to responsibly manage the retirement programs for their employees. Their pensions and life savings were lost.

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Unraveling Herman Cain’s Money Laundering Scheme
October 21, 2011 By Jimmy Zuma (Search for complete article.)

Newt Gingrich does it. Ron Paul does it. Running for president in order to raise expense money isn’t news. But Herman Cain has adopted an entirely new strategy for converting campaign contributions to other uses. Cain’s tactic is a way to convert campaign contributions directly into personal cash — sell your product to yourself.

Bloomberg reports that the Cain campaign spent $36,511 on books and $64,000 on other expenses to a company named “THE New Voice, Inc.” THE New Voice, Inc. is solely owned by Herman and Gloria Cain.

Of course it’s not quite that simple. Herman Cain’s corporation (that exists to promote Herman Cain) is selling Herman Cain’s books (that were written to promote Herman Cain) to Herman Cain’s campaign (which some argue was created to promote Herman Cain’s books.) Sheesh! No wonder this guy speaks in the third person so much.
“They are buying my books and my pamphlets,” one Herman Cain told Bloomberg of another Herman Cain. Is his use of “they” an indication of something to hide? Are we to believe no Herman Cain had anything to do with the insider deal? C’mon, Herman Cain’s. Seriously?

Unraveling the nature of this money laundering scheme (which might turn out to be sort of – but not entirely – legal) requires some understanding of the book publishing industry, a little knowledge about the Federal Elections Commission, a look inside Cain’s company, “THE New Voice, Inc.,” and at least a dab of inference, since Herman Cain won’t speak candidly about what he bought from Herman Cain.

Is Herman Cain breaking the law? Bloomberg asked Bill Allison, of the electoral watchdog group the Sunlight, Foundation, if the transactions deserve further investigation. “All candidates publish books and they offer them as premiums to donors, but most candidates aren’t buying them from their own companies,” he said. “It raises the question of his campaign contributions ending up in his own pocket.” Making a profit from your campaign is a no-no.

I can’t remember a recent case where the candidate was so brazenly putting money directly in his own pocket. Cain deliberately created a strategy to turn donations into cash. Diverting campaign donations directly into one’s bank accounts represents a whole new level of audaciousness.

Is Herman Cain unaware of the law? And what happened to that resident agent guy?

THE New Voice, Inc. has always listed only two corporate officers, Herman and Gloria Cain. But since its founding in 2004 and up until 2011, it listed Stefan Passantino as its resident agent. Passantino is the Washington, DC Partner for McKenna, Long and Aldridge, the firm that filed THE New Voice Inc.’s original incorporation. And yes, it’s unusual for a large-firm partner to be anyone’s resident agent.

Passantino, however, is not your ordinary business lawyer. It turns out he’s the “head of McKenna Long & Aldridge’s Political Law Team.” According to the company website, he specializes in “state and federal election law, campaign finance, pay-to-play and lobbying laws, and ethics issues.” Not your typical resident agent. So why, after serving Cain’s company for six years, did he disappear from corporate filings just before Cain started running for office? Did this election law expert see something that caused concern? Certainly, insider dealing would raise red flags, wouldn’t it?

Why is this not being looked into?????

Hey, cantakenomore - thpppt! (blowing razeberriesz)

<Herman Cain is the best nominee in the Republican field.>

It might be true, and that is one sad fact right there.

Unhappy - I'm going to partially disagree with you on your racist point. Being black was the only thing that got obama to the White House among the black voters. However, it also took a lot of white voters to help him into the position. Even though he garnered 95% ofthe black voters, he still needed help from the white voters.

It's really sad that a voter will support a candidate based on race rather than merits.

cantakenomore, you really can't take the truth can you? You remind me of John Boehner, a whiner and cryer.

Do you think for 1 second that Hillary's election team did not look into Obamas background very carefully? If they had found anything, do you think she would not use it against him to discredit him? Obama was the most scrutinized president to ever sit in the Oval Office.

starbuck...

I'd say that's a bit of a stretch !

cant

you lost me at 'viable candidate',...really?

Mr. Cain, as a candidate, would not have a (D) after his name. The black vote always goes to the (D). As one urban voter responded on the news in my state said, when asked about his voting plans... "they tell me one guy wants to take things away from me ( the 'R' candidate, obviously ) and the other guy ( 'D', no doubt ) wants to give me more".

Can't get any clearer than that.

Yep, the name John Boehner fits cantakenomore. A whiner and a cryer. Wow. The GOP must go through a lot of Kleenex.

Unhappy-1583758

I know you democrats don't want to hear this, but let's face it. Being black was the only thing that got Obama to the White House.

If your statement was true, jessie Jackson would have been president, the truth is that between choosing John mcCain and Barack Obama the majorty of people picked Obama.

also you statement is just stupid because black only make up 10% of the voting block. to say 10% of Americans can determine who's president is stupid.

Cain thinks because he is black, he can win black voters is out landish and racist.

back in 2008 i was a Hillary supported until Obama won Iowa at that point i knew he was a viable candidate.

Vanity Fair napkins are one of the products owned by the Koch bros,...if you find yourself in need of 'voting your pocketbook',...I try to, as well.

Clara...

Until the republicans pick someone to represent their party in the next election, yes, Herman Cain is a viable candidate. You may not agree with him or like him, but he is a viable candidate...just as Obama was once a viable candidate. I never liked or supported him but that didn't make him any less viable.

Nothing says "presidential" like playing the race card this early. Herman is more interseted in selling his new book than actually being POTUS.

Hooray, I got ignored by John Jr.!!!

Is Cain still running? I thought he dropped out after his chances of winning went to zero???

As a 'presidential candidate' Cain is a disgrace to his race, the human race that is!

Unhappy

I WAS going to vote for McCain, until he brought out Sister Sarah. When she opened her mouth, nothing but stupid rolled out. Given McCains age and heart condition, and Sister Sarahs expertise on world affairs,,I didn't want the flaming BIMBO anywhere the Nuclear warheads.

It's interesting to note that the article states that supporters attending Cain rallies are overwhelmingly white. This tends to further prove that race is not a big factor in politics, either for the Democrats or Republicans. There were a lot of white people at Obama rallies, where are the conservative blacks? It's good to see America focusing on the real issues.

..the reality is...my 80 year old father...a southern republican since the Nixon Southern strategy took hold....will NEVER vote for Cain...nor will many other white republican southerners....and THAT is the reality...so while Cain may draw a few more African-American votes...he wont pull enough white southern good ol' boy votes....

Fellow lefties:

You've read this wrong. It's not race as in color of skin. The race Cain is talking about is the race to the bottom. Each of the G.O.P. Presidential candidates has plumbed the depths in the RACE to the bottom, to find the lowest common denominator.

Apparently, they haven't found it yet. Keep racing fellows. Apparently there is something lower than a bought and paid for ex-Speaker of the House who was thrown out in disgrace. There's something lower than a for sale Governor who can't remember one-third of the targets on his hit list. There's something lower than an alleged mathematician who seems to have respect problems when it comes to women. There's something lower than an honest-to-goodness job-killer who doesn't know where he stands from one day to the next. For Pete's sake, there's even something lower than a Michelle Bachmann who can't make the cut for "Are you smarter than a Kindergartener?"

Keep racing. There's a bottom somewhere. No, not that one Herman.

@unhappy, hate to break it to you but, teapublicans have figured out that Cain doesn't attract black voters(democrats) and therefore, will not allow him to win the nomination. Conservative white america does not elect black presidents. Period. The majority of voters who elected President Obama were Democrats.

David:

Keep racing. There's a bottom somewhere. No, not that one Herman.

Bad boy. LoL

Nominated for best giggle of the day.

Bilbo

..the reality is...my 80 year old father...a southern republican since the Nixon Southern strategy took hold....will NEVER vote for Cain...nor will many other white republican southerners....and THAT is the reality...so while Cain may draw a few more African-American votes...he wont pull enough white southern good ol' boy votes....

He also won't pull enough big city black voters either, i guess we do have something in common, you will not vote for a black man, republican or not, and we will not vote for a republican, black man or not.

Cain writes, "as a descendent of slaves I can lead the Republican Party to victory by garnering a large share of the black vote, something that has not been done since Dwight Eisenhower garnered 41 percent of the black vote in 1956."

Yeah, righ "Rude Herman"... Keep drinking the koolaide.

@nisl

"Herman Cain is the best nominee in the Republican field."

Joking, right?? Cain is about as qualified as a walnut and will do as much good...

(gee, send him some more money....lol)

Cain is singing corndog blues, Herman stop stalking the Lady's, your lawyer is giving them goose bumps ?

Sorry Herm, It has nothing to do with your race, you're just a stupid, ignorant, woman hating, loud-mouth, unprepared ignoramus. You define the GOP 3 ring circus of a party thses days and show the real ignorance of the far-right/teabaggers party.

Those who tell themselves that Obama was elected because he is (half) black are in deep denial. These people rarely leave their hometowns and really have no idea of how things work in the real world. They just don't get it and they never will.

Obama was elected because he has a superior intellect and knows how things REALLY are in this world. His thoughts and ideas are sound and make perfect sense. He doesn't trample on others' personal freedoms. You can be a Christian and be a Democrat. No one will stop you or force you. Obama believes that the American people need to be protected from predatory business practices. Not all of us can get a law or business degree and can not protect ourselves against corruption. Even if we were highly educated, there is always someone who will exploit weaknesses. Obama wants to stop that. Why do the republicans think this is wrong? Aren't Christians supposed to stand up for what is right?

Cain appeals to the black community about as much as professional Hockey appeals to them. They just don't seem to be too interested in a game played by a bunch of white guys wearing masks and carrying sticks! Cain will get the same percentage of the black community's vote as the percentage of black players in the NHL. Ha hang in there Hermann, you are at least a big help to one of the political parties, very helpful indeed.

How is it that the rocket scientist mathematician can look at the polling and "do the math"?

No community is stupid enought to vote for someone based on color or sex. It would be sick if people would do that.

Jeff: I know you Republicans don't want to hear this, but Obama did not win the White House because he was half-black. I know it's very, very difficult for Republicans to understand this, but a lot of voters actually vote for the best qualified leader, not the one whose race they are comfortable with. Obama was voted in by a landslide because of his IDEAS, of which the Republicans prove repeatedly, they are out of. After 8 years of the disastrous George Bush (you'd seriously argue I suppose he won because he was white??) voters embraced someone who is a real leader: cry all you want about voters being dumb...they are not and they are about to do it again with a second Obama term so we can continue this recovery from that Bush debacle. As to dismissive comments about African Americcans: did it occur to you that African Americans voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers because overwhelming numbers of African American voters are registered DEMOCRATS??

Unhappy-1583758

I also remember the news coverage in NY where the Black panthers had the nerve to block the white voters from voting booth and nobody did anything.

your unhappy and your also the only person that get confused, the black panthers were in Philly and they were not blocking the entrance to voting place, they were there making sure registered voters were not turned away.

this happens from time to time.

so i don't know what TV your were watching but yours was watching something different than really happened, also the AG investigated this when George Bush was still in office and found there was nothing to this clam.

whats next, men from the moom came down and voted Obama for president.

hey dude, winning the black vote, ain't enough !!!...best to look at things; differently..........

Cain gets campaign contributions from the Republicans, then buy his own book with these monies and give the books to republicans.... the perfect racket...

some folks here ignore the facts.....Obama is the elected president in the story of the USA with the most votes ever... in history. not just Blacks.. to do that..

TO: nisl who wrote:

"... There is nobody liberals like me fear facing in a general election more than Herman Cain..."

You can always tell a fake "liberal" -- they just sound nutty.

Liberals KNOW that there is no way Republicans are going to nominate a black man for POTUS, and have 2 black men fighting for the White House because they know, no matter what happens, there WILL be another Black POTUS, and I'm not at all convinced that Republicans want another Black POTUS.

American Girl: it's call sarcasm..that's what nisl did.

Obama is the elected president with the most votes ever in the history of the USA.

( don't know what happened to " hi" - story in my previous post)

NISL that would be priceless. Newt sitting 2nd chair to a black man.

Midol......Im thinking Vicodin would'nt make that go away! Im pretty sure she doesnt bleed. wait for it........wait for it....... here it comes.

Given a choice between Attila the hun, and Herman Cain, I would vote for Attila. The hun was smarter and more honest then Herman Cain.

CPaul,

You guys need to choose a side. Either the popular vote counts or it doesn't. Pick one!!

I am going to lock myself in my home and not go out if Herman Cain is ever in my hood. I don't want to get into trouble the secret service.

I love how Republicans try to claim that the President only won because he is black (as if the Presidency were some sort of affirmative action position), claim that blacks only voted for him because he's black (as if blacks don't already vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and aren't capable of thinking for themselves), and act as if a black man couldn't POSSIBLY become President merely by being the smartest and best candidate.

And then Republicans wonder why they can't seem to get the black vote. Ummm....DUH!

According to lib logic all Problems in the US can contribute to the following items. Any dem or liberal rebuttal or attack will contain a reference to one of the following as the root of their argument.

TEA Party

Bush

GOP

Obstruction

Fox

Rich People

Greed

Grover

As where greed may be the root of evil, there is no greed greater than socialism, wealth redistribution and feeding on the success of others. Dems and libs are narrow minded, rude, arrogant, immoral, fascist, masochist, blind, sheep, being led to slaughter by the very things they hold dear.

What percentage pays taxes? To receive benefits from something which you have not, do not and will not contribute too is theft, unless you are physically and mentally unfit for anything.

The world does not owe you a living Grasshopper!

If our current president is unable to unite and lead the people of our government then maybe he is not the man for the job. He has proved ineffective in dealing with almost every domestic issue he has been faced with. Instead of leading he points the finger and blames.

Libs and Dems, the winter is coming 2013

cantakenomore feisty might just be Sallie's pin name..Didn't you know ????

I also love how Republicans prance around claiming Obama is a failure because we have high unemployment and no jobs being created...then, as soon as somebody brings up unemployment benefits, lack of healthcare, or Occupy Wall Street, will turn around and say "Why don't these people just get a job?!?!"

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

and I thought Dimocrats didn't like anything ....

I am in total AGREEMENT with Fiesty and the few others who had the guts not to be swayed by you PC Pusses! Sorry. No I am not! Let the rest of the Little World of those cowardice folks who cringe at the Whip of the PC Police fall in around their inability to be individuals; rather than standing up against the folks who try to "shame" them into thinking it is wrong to address a wrong when Racial issues are involved. Personally, I am SICK and TIRED of People using Crutches to further their Agenda. Stand on your abilities and expect advancement through Merit alone! Stop using the Race Card! If we can start looking at it from a more reasonable perspective, i.e., we are one RACE! The Human Race!, We can get on with some serious issues that need to be addressed...Thank you for reading this. If you push to collapse; YOU ARE COWARDS!

It certainly helped Odumbo....

When you have 90% of blacks voting for someone black and the mainstream journalists start feeling "a tingle up their leg" at the prospect of electing America's first Black President (ala Chris Mathews), I fail to see why this is even a story.

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Jeff: Read my other post from Wikipedia. It proves to you that they were not protecting the polling place but stopping others from going in.

John...just for grins, why don't you look up the percentage of blacks that voted for Bill Clinton and tell us what you come up with. And, then, while your at it, maybe you could look up the percentage of blacks that voted for Jimmy Carter.

Report back what you find, mmmkay?

Unhappy-1583758

Jeff: Read my other post from Wikipedia. It proves to you that they were not protecting the polling place but stopping others from going in.

i know what happened, 1st, of all this happened in a black hood in philly, 2nd they were no stopping people from entering they were making sure the black in that hood were not denied their right to vote, also if there were something to this, then the Bush administration would have charged them, but they did not, are you telling me that Bush allowed white folks to be denied their right to vote, Hell no.

this only happened in your and Fox news mind.

please find something else this was old 2 years ago.

What I remember the most about Herm the sperm and his constant line of bull is "I'm the Koch Brutha's brutha from anutha mutha". If it wasn't so damn funny I would have to go throw up.

Feisty readhead is on some pretty strong drugs today, if she is an example of your normal liberal the dems will loose in 2012. or is it the opposit maybe she forgot to take those drugs.

No....she 'just said no' to drugs...she's a fine example of a liberal minded Democrat voter.

How much more out of touch can a person be!!!! He can count on the Black vote about as much ... at this point ... as he can count on the women's vote ... he's molested both of them!

Inquiring minds would like to know;

How much wood could DBuck chuck if, DBuck could chuck wood?

Sorry dude - I'm naturally high just being a liberal & believing in people over PROFIT!

You can't take it with ya - you know? ;o)

The key to winning the black vote is to erode the grip through meticulous and methodical research within the demographics of the greater black populous, and using that information effectively. First it takes effort to court people of various demographics, and they have gambled on a few faces to lead this effort such as Cain, West, Jindal and Rubio. Check out Jennifer Carroll out in Florida, or Micheal Williams tryin to do big things out in Tehas, the list is bigger than that and is growing every year. Pssst, they even have the NBRA, but don't tell anybody. It will be a learning curve for them, but they have to make this adjustment to remain viable. One of the greatest threat to Democrats, is losing the minority vote even at low ranges of 10-25%. Don't say it won't or it can't happen, because its developing right now.

This clown is an arrogant A-hole and a wanna be pimp to boot, he thinks he is Super Fly ......

Unhappy-1583758 - Actually Cain is right. It will even the playing field. No more will democrats say "you didn't want a black man in the White House" or "you just hate the president because he's black".

Over 90% of blacks voted for Gore in 2000. It seems most blacks aren't dumb enough or gullible enough to vote for a Republican.

Herman Cain is a joke.

His presence dishonors the entire political process.

His candidacy is merely a political attempt to reach swing voters. He knows he had/has no chance.

I think he was surprised by his initial successes and actually started to believe in himself. lol. Thats when the proverbial bucket of water hit him in the face and he woke up realizing that the nightmare isn't over. He's still actually in a presidential race! Oh the horror!

This fool actually thinks/thought he could fool the United States of America in to voting for him. The guy wants to use the Pizza Chain model to run this country. What???

Obviously he has no chance now but imagine, just for a moment, if Herman Cain actually won the nomination. That would have been a real injustice.

I'm convinced that there are some decent right leaning people in this country.

Could all 3 of them please announce their candidacies? Please!?!?

Not that I'd vote for them, I don't vote anyway, but it would be nice to see some people with brains in the political process, not just one.

I don’t really know if being black will help Herman Cain get black votes. Yes, he’s twice as black as Obama but being a conservative, he’s considered by the NAACP and the liberal establishment to be a runaway slave from their 21^st century plantation.

They need for Herman Cain to be brought back into the clutches of their liberal masters or if not, be destroyed.

Yes you are all wet, Willie.

Now, now...Ann Coulter said their blacks are better than our blacks...and she wouldn't lie to us, would she?

So, is this the natural conclusion of his contention that blacks have been "brainwashed" by President Obama --is he claiming his brainwashing is BETTEr than the other brainwashing? (because he can't possibl;y be talking about all the milions of blacks who are registered Republicans, can he?)

Red...Absolutely!! And, I might add, GREED to the adjectives offered here. Who brags about the money they have raised rather than the good works to their credit? What is happening to that nine million? Cain has no moral compass and never even knew that "true" north existed. Good comment Red! Hypocrisy at its' finest.

Great post Clara!!!! Hooray for Clara!!!!

Even with sliding poll numbers, Cain has attracted large crowds at recent events — but supporters attending Cain rallies are overwhelmingly white.

(laughs) Maybe these White supporters can be counted as Black because of the ol' "one drop" rule.

I agree with Clara. Democrats really need to start supporting Democrat owned businesses. Anyone know of a good list?

Democrats are the real revenue producers of the US economy. Blue States are the real breadwinners (see Franchise Tax Board). If Democrats stopped supporting republican businesses, they would go broke pretty quickly.

Hey if Bill Clinton was considered as the first black president that was white, Cain can be the first white president that was black!

Aquila was headed to bankruptcy and Herman Cain saved the company. Maybe the people that got laid off during the restructuring didn't like it and the liberals can whine about it but he did the job he was hired for. Sorry whiney liberals when the choice is laying off people to save jobs for others or just going out of business the mature thing to do is cut your work force. If you want to complain about how someones done something to really screw up the economy Google the CRA Lawsuit. The CRA Lawsuit in 1994 is what set America up for the Mortgage Meltdown because it forced banks into giving loans to unqualified borrowers. The banks then sold these toxic loans to Fannie and Freddie who after Bill Clinton changed the rules had to buy them without any consideration of how bad a loan it was. Fannie and Freddie knowing these loans were toxic 'bundle' them and sold them to investors like AIG. Are you starting to get the picture?? Lax regulations did not cause the financial meltdown. One man and the CRA Lawsuit caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs and homes. Google CRA Lawsuit and see who that man is!

aquila was headed for bankruptcy?

and herman coerced all the employees into buying aquila stock?

Red, of course it's hypocrisy, especially while so-called "conservative" Herman Cain is using our "socialist" Secret Service, paid for out of the pockets of the hard-working American Taxpayers, the majority of which would NEVER vote for Herman Cain, instead of hiring his own private security paid for by his own political supporters.

"Cain" ought to be "ashamed", but he's too much of a hypocrit he feels like he's "entitled" to spend the American Taxpayers' hard earned money, even though he's never been elected to any political office.

Shame on Herman Cain!

fact is, no matter what Cain says, the truth is that he couldn't get the black vote if he bought it.

And just as surely, most of that vote does need to be bought.

James d. you are absolutely right, Cain cannot get the AA Vote, they will not support him the reason being the Democrats have already purchased the Af Am Votes. and technically they are only allowed one vote each. although some do share cards of the ones that cant make it to the polls, and lend assistance to the absentee voting

TO: tony-268769 who wrote:

"And just as surely, most of that [black] vote does need to be bought."

You have GOT to be kidding!

American Girl, the right wing lunatic fringe still clings to the idea that if someone is intelligent enough to disagree with their hateful political ideology they must be bought off or otherwise intimidated to come to their thoughtful and reasonable conclusions. It's rather pathetic, but it will be the only thing that will sustain their dark delusions as Obama continues on his inevitable path to reelection.

another sad case from the right.

Am I, a black person, who he considers "brainwashed" going to vote for Cain simply because he's black?!? Let me put my answer in terms that Cain can understand........

NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!

"NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!"

If Cain had half a brain he would have spun that answer of "9-9-9" for foreign policy to that german phrase. At least then it would have been more in context!

Cain is a panderer who will say anything to sell his latest book or next speaking engagement. Hey, it worked for Palin, didn't it??.

So please, low IQ teabaggers, continue giving Cain your money (or even Perry). These are the new Jimmy Swaggerts and Peter Popoffs, so give them as much money as possible..... lol

In a seven-page mailer sent to Iowans over the weekend, Cain writes, "as a descendent of slaves I can lead the Republican Party to victory by garnering a large share of the black vote, something that has not been done since Dwight Eisenhower garnered 41 percent of the black vote in 1956."

This guy would be like injecting cancer cells to cure the FLU!
One thing I don't see is the GOP lemmings condemning him for throwing out the RACE card...Any takers?

This is about as blatant as I've EVER seen. I would hazard to guess that if we were to do a geniology test we would see the same thing as we did from the author of "Roots", Alex Haley, does anyone remember when he was discredited since ALL of his ancestors were from Northern states? Most of whom migrated to the US AFTER Slavery was abolished.

Think of it this way, it would be like evening out the playing field. You democrats can't complain anymore about it being a question of race. They are both educated, both are the same race; and best of all, their policies will now speak for themselves. I am willing to give Cain a chance. We did the same for Obama and he had no experience.

Obama is dumb as a brick and if you vote for him...So are you.He got votes against Bush not for him..Thats how he got to the white house..Now he needs to leave ...

No so Dumb he's President and what do you do?

He got votes against Bush not for him

I had no idea Bush was running for a third term.

keef....and you can't figure out why the world thinks you right wingers are ignorant, uneducated rednecks.....REALLY did not know bush was in the race!!

Jasmine, I loved your post.

Nein nein nein!

Keef, I bet on Obama's worst day his baby toe is smarter than you ... LMAO

an intelligent black already in the whitehouse

What's her name? And only one?

Thinker,

Are you saying you don't know who the pres is? Normally when we say "in the white house" we mean the pres. But then you may not be normal?

I want people to STOP collapsing posts. There was nothing wrong with Rob's post,...other than blatant ignorance; which should fly High and Proud! What is wrong with letting EVERY voice be heard? Come on, people. Write what you mean and stand by it. And let others do the same! Thread #4 above

Clara,

Readers on this blog should allow all contributors to voice their opinions about any of the candidates, and I do agree collapsing posts isn't the venue to disagree.

Where else can we all get a laugh when reading some of the liberal comments to posts or laughing while reading the Obama spins that you folks offer on a daily basis?

I get a hoot from the red rooster's one or two line comments that share the outragious opinons of libbies. And before you get your panties in a bunch, I would surmise that your little chat room coffee clutch has a lot to comment on about us conservatives too.

But let the posts stay - enjoy the laughs folks!

Panties?

jollyoldsoul,

Don't be getting your hopes up.

If Obama was a secret Muslim, he's one of the worst practitioners ever.

He eats pork, and doesn't fast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

They'd throw him out of the brotherhood.

And he drinks beer!!! Umm, beer.........

And he is the first socialist President to be disavowed by the American Socialist Party - so he is breaking the rules left and right.

Anything for re-election, right?

And he is the first socialist President to be disavowed by the American Socialist Party - so he is breaking the rules left and right.

As I've said before many time - obama is an INCOMPETENT socialist. More incompetent than anything else with arrogant a close second.

@Rob in ma

man, I'm hoping you get banned soon.

Your Nazi Republican Candidates have NO chance!!! Could you have hand-picked a better set of clowns from Clown College (bozo included)????

Obama in a landslide victory 2012!!!!! Yeah...

Hey Rob, hows that ObamneCare workin' out for ya'?

Rob has been exposing his ignorance for a while now. Most ignore him. He is a birther idiot. Socialist like bernie sanders do not think Obama is even marginally socialist....Hell, Reagan was closer than Obama....union boss, supported gay rights, increased taxes, expanded welfare....Ronny would be fired by Norquist.

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Rob in ma-3189632 wrote:

And he is the first socialist President to be disavowed by the American Socialist Party - so he is breaking the rules left and right.

American socialism is linked to immigrant Germans from the 1850s. (grins) It is as American as "apple pie" [and the French word used among automobiles] "Chevrolet", and part of the principles of a "free market", capitalistic society and common-wealth.

Reality check: Socialistic ideologies are alive and well on both sides of the political aisle in this "great land" of ours... It is part of the the American indivisible way.

Jim, you need to keep your head out of the sand. When democrats start contributing as much as republicans do (on average) then you have the right to speak. As it is, you democrats want much, but expect others to pay for it. If you had your way, the whole country would be in danger; and the food you would have received in return would now fall into the hands of the enemy. I really can't understand your logic at all!

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but don't blue states contribute more to the federal coffer than red states?. Don't red states get more than they give?

Unhappy,
I'm a moderate. I would like to ask you one question, well maybe two; Do you feel that ALL the poor and disinfranchised in this country did it to themselves?

Would you just like to brush them out of this country, like lint under your table?

I don't feel that many of our social programs are managed very efficiently, but I realize the need for them. Eliminating them would be disastrous for this country's economy, just as Bush's tax program is. "Trickle down" economics have never worked. If you put the tax burden on the middle class, this country's economy is doomed.
Cain's tax program is just as damaging, since it places a tax burden on the poor that they would not be able to meet.
A straight across 10% income tax would be ideal, since everyone pays their fair percentage. And, it's a burdon everyone could meet. A standard state sales tax rate would also work, say 5% distributed by the state according to the county's populations. Pretty easy. No more loopholes.
By the way, I don't agree with the reduction of military funding for obvious reasons. But, just as in the Social programs, we do need to streamline and cut out frivolous expenses, like the unlimited budget the R&D programs have. Stop funding corporations to develop systems, and only buy them when good ones are developed. THAT in and of itself will cut a quarter of the military tax obligation. There are far too many companies in the US getting fat on tax dollars for not developing ANYTHING.

@unhappy, Democrats pay taxes too. It's ok for you to be unhappy about a progressive tax system if you are in the upper brackets but you're sorely mistaken if you believe that the taxes that we all pay didn't help you become wealthy. And that, Mr. Unhappy, is how america prospers.

GR Adams, great post. I often try to get that point across but it falls on deaf ears.

Republicans are the biggest welfare queens out there. Just look at Michelle Bachmann.

The Red States (with the exception of Texas) would all be welfare states without the innovation and creativity of the Democrats in the Blue States. Why do these people have so much power? They deserve none. They blame their failures on the poor and helpless.

Actually I'm not wealthy. My taxes went to take care of you too. I went to a community college and paid back all the student loans myself. No need to ask the govt. for a hand out or protest in the streets. I thought you democrats believed in fairness. Is it wrong for me to earn money when I worked hard for it? How many democrats do not work hard for the money they earn and have the nerve to take it from the people that do? I know you all blame the rich; but that really is the result of jealousy more than anything else. I am content with what I have, so I have no need to take it from others. Are you content with what you have?

GR Adams:

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but don't blue states contribute more to the federal coffer than red states?. Don't red states get more than they give?

Actually no. The red states are usually less populated than the blue states. So even though you think the red states get more money, it is in fact, the blue states that recieve more per person. When you consider how much they pay in taxes to how much they recieve in federal aid, the blue states get recieve much more money than they give.

Unhappy-1583758

"Jim, you need to keep your head out of the sand. When democrats start contributing as much as republicans do (on average) then you have the right to speak"

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A lot of thoughts went through my mind when I read this, very few of them fit for print. What arrogance!

You and your party are no more American than the poorest of the poor living completely off governmental assistance. In fact by that statement you are far less of a citizen because you do not understand a lick of what it means to be an American.

I am in the upper brackets and i would never vote GOP or TP. Your policies are simply bad for America and good for only a tiny segment of our society. And when we see you practicing arrogance when you should be showing embarrasment at your own ignorance and the candidates and policies you support it only reinforces all of that.

I am in the upper brackets and i would never vote GOP or TP. Your policies are simply bad for America and good for only a tiny segment of our society.

Voxrationis: I only hope you remember that when you are expected to pay a larger portion than your share without complaint. I am not rich, nor do I consider myself to be in the upper brackets as you do. But what I do understand is that so many of your democratic constituents fake poverty when in reality they have just as much as anyone else. You also practice ignorance when you portray to be one of those who are poor when you are farthest from it. Honestly, the more I read your response, the more I think what hypocrites you democrats are. Your policies are meant for only helping yourselves and taking away from others.

Unhappy, I think I have a line on why you are so Unhappy. You have been proven wrong and you just can't admit it. You share that with your fellow narcissistic "conservaties". You are further proof that narcissists only believe what they want to believe.

Republicans-The Party of Delusional Narcissists.

@ Unhappy. Voxrationis is correct. Voxrationis believes in paying the fair tax for the income generated. If I am earning $300,000, I should be able to pay the same or a little more of my earned income than my secretary who is now paying more. To be fair, I should pay at least 25% of my income instead of 10% and my secretary who is paying 30% of her $40,000 income. P.S there is no system of 'trickle down' that has ever worked!!

Unhappy....no way you made it through community college. YES RED STATES are the WELFARE STATES i.e. MS,AL,TN,KY,GA,FL,LA,IO,AK,ID,AZ,WV,VA all take more than they pay in. CA is the exception.....

California is the top earning state in the nation and the world's ninth largest economy.

New York is second and it is also a Blue State.

Texas is next and that is only because of oil. The rest of the red states are welfare states.

Washington and Oregon follow. They are also Blue States. Boeing, Microsoft, Nike.

The republicans are unimaginative, unproductive welfare queens. If the Blue States succeeded them, they would be destitute. Why the heck do republicans think they are so entitled?

The Grinch is going to be much more dangerous.

The Grinch doesnt have a chance either. VERY WEAK field the repubes have.

royal...Very weak indeed!! When you look at them all on stage, they look like they could all be related...cookie cutter politicians...Cain may be the exception, but, with his greed and zipper problem you know he is in the gene pool somewhere.

Give the voters a viable option!!! If not, I will go with the man that has the four years experience and will not be on the campaign trail his entire term. OJT has some merit....If he can learn from past mistakes...and, actually, I have seen some of the lately. I know....I've been blasting Obama for months, but I do see him seeking advice from experienced people and trying to strengthen our alliances and strategically place our troops so that, if the ME decides to rumble, there can be a quick response. I see him as being more "Presidential" if you will and less of a community organizer. Then there are the contenders....Sheesh!!!

They are all pretty weak, sure. But remember what Rove was able to do with the weak minded Bush. They will try to villianize the opponent with such total force as to make sure the public does not pay attention to their own candidate and their weakness/idiocies. If the cannot be convinced with truth then blind them with BS. Don't be expecting a fair fight.

Any of the Republican candidates would kick the stuffings out of the Campaigner in Chief. Even Bachman or better yet Sarah if she chose to, ha, ha,ha. ABO in 2012.

What you said sounded so good. " I can not help thinking when I see a headline like this how will we as a nation ever be truly rid of racism" did you think of that when the headlines were about the racist attacks by TP/Conservatives against President Obama, when some questioned if he was an American, caled him a socialist,marxist said he was not a Christian. What about the posters that had him and his family as monkeys, did you think of how we could be rid of racism then ?Being a racist is not something one is born as it is something they have to be taught and as long as we have racist who teach their children to hate it will never die.

realnard56,

Not sure what your point is here........my conclusions had nothing to do with anyone attacking anyone. I was addressing a much more subtle aspect of real and/ or perceived racism.

I believe within the context of my post the reader would conclude I would indeed have thought the same thoughts about past headlines, and would deplore any racist attacks against the President.

We must be careful what we define as racism. Over-using and abusing a term just dilutes any chance of dealing with what the term represents in an effective fashion. Un-American, socialist, marxist, and un-Christian are not racist terms.

I think it has more to do with him being conservative, they tend not to recognize realities surrounding them & definitely ignore every one else that doesn't share their political views or don't engage socially with them... Listening to them, they are the "Truth & the Light", nobody else exists

Of course, you mean financially conservative only.

I think that to some black people (4%) rising above oppression means joining the republican party.

However, (and I'm talking to you Herman Cain, Conde Rice, Colin Powell, etc) black republicans can pay dues to that club for the rest of their lives and NEVER be members. Why would you do that? Why would you support those who seek to suppress? Why would you let yourself be used?

I personally feel it is a form of Stockholm Syndrome (where one begins to sympathize with one's captors). Some black people think that by sympathizing with the republicans, they can become equal. What I am here to say is what 96% of black people have already figured out;

Herman Cain is a phony, a sellout, and a traitor to his own people. If the republicans are successful electing him, it would only be because they can manipulate him. He will bend to their wishes because he wants the power and respect that comes with the office. He will never get it. He will be hated and when the republicans are done with him they will blame it all on him.

marinmom,

What you have written is true to some extent, however the issue is much deeper than that which can be explained on a simple blog. For example, lower middle class and poor white Americans are often registered republicans and seemingly vote against their own best interest.

America is a huge country, comprised of almost every race and national heritage. Children of slaves and slaveowners, refugees of past wars, and indigenous people who's ancestors were here long before the country was formed.

The reasons for one being either Republican or Democrat cannot be boiled down to simple logic. It is a human thing. It would take volumes by learned and educated minds to dissect the various workings of this complex situation.

We can only hope that in the long run our system of government will filter the best and most fair ideas for all stakeholders involved and lead to a more perfect union.

Silver Flyer, you do bring up some valid points. My views on black republicans pale in comparison to my views on poor dumb religious types who vote republican because they think it's for Jaaaayzuuus. Both groups are oblivious to the fact that they are being USED. However, their continued support of the republican party only strengthens their dependency on churches, which is a huge strategy and part of the republican agenda. If the republicans can get poor dumb people to vote republican because they are dependent on the churches the whole welfare dependency thing perpetuates itself. In the town where I live, a church just paid off a $6800 auto loan on a Lincoln Navigator for a welfare queen. They also bought her loyalty. They used Federal funding to do it.

Republicans are just fine with welfare if you slap a Jesus label on it. And they are fine with bashing Democrats who are on welfare. Then they gripe about the constitution. How is a Lincoln Navigator for a welfare mother constitutional? Where's my Lincoln Navigator?

Oh, and if you don't believe this story, you have your head where the sun don't shine. This kind of crap happens every day.

Bell...I would have to disagree on the "self-hating" assumption. I can't remember when I have seen a person that fits the term "narcissistic" any better than Mr. Cain. He doesn't believe the rules apply to him and takes no credit for his flaws--I don't think he believes he has any. His mission is money.

Spoken like someone who is a racist! You assume that everyone who is not democrat is somehow racist against themselves if they don't agree with the majority of black voters? That's like saying why aren't you a member of the republican party if you are white? Are you turning your back on your own race?

Your logic shows a lot of stupidity. Maybe your just the toady for the democratic party?

Conservatives have had their boots on the neck of black Americans forever. Although not every conservative is racist, most racists are conservatives. Why would any self respecting black join a party that considers them to be inferior? Conservatives still pine for a white bread America, absent of dark skinned foreigners. They fear the changing demographics, where in fifty years, white people will be a minority.

" He's road the the tea party express"

Rode, rowed, road your boat.....

Colorblind, narcissists usually do have some level or form of self hate. Their neediness is a result of neglect, usually emotional neglect.

Herman Cain is a textbook narcissist. Thinks the rules don't apply to him. I'm sure he actually lies to himself and believes his own lies. People like him can be VERY dangerous.

R. Bell do you really think it'll take fifty years before whites become the minority in this country?? It's pretty close to that right now isn't it?? There are parts of some states you'd be hard pressed to find a white person. Obama needs to close the borders and enforce immigration laws. (including his relatives here illegaly) I think in fifty years you might not have to have been born in America to be President. oHH or has that happened allready?

You would think that the fact that 96% of black people are voting for Obama would tip old Herman off that he is going in the wrong direction. The fact that he ignores this makes him delusional.

In Detroit, it was revealed earlier in the year that there are 15 thousand Democratic voters in Detroit MORE than there are registered voters of voting age. And the registrar has made the statement that they cant fix it until after the next election. Im actually a resident of Florida even though I live most of the year in Detroit, so I vote via a absentee ballot. I would hate to miss the fun of watching the Cars coming to pick up voters filled with coffee and sandwiches, cookies maybe a free Ipad or two. Like I said the other day, I've given up arguing with anyone, I will vote and wait to see the results.

Good for you Jolly... you may be the only one...

Jolly ... As of the 2010 census, Detroit has 713,777 citizens. So, in a city of nearly three-quarters of a million, you say there are fifteen thousand Democratic voters, and this is a larger number than the amount of all "registered voters of voting age"? So, by your figures, less than 2% of Detroit's residents are registered to vote, and somehow ... magically ... more than 2% of Detroit's residents vote Democrat? Please cite your sources, because it sounds to me like you're pulling this out of your butt.

And everyone knows that Obama had three years to put us into even more debt; and further plunge us into a deeper recession than ever before. If this is what he has done in three years (when it took Bush 8 years) then I don't think I can take it anymore.

@unhappy, do you need a ride to the airport?

No thanks, I just have to stick it out one more year!

@unhappy,

Our country's leading economists predicted that it would take ten years for the country to recover from Bush's raping and pilfering. Why are you under the impression that three years with an obstructive congress is enough? Are you an idiot or just being paid by the GOP to lie on online forums?

@Unhappy.....you are just a whiney broken record. Where are your ideas on policy, or answering anything other than your stupid complaints, that have no basis in reality. So you hate President Obama. So what? He is our President, and he will be again.

And having said that, you now go under my "ignore" button because you sound like a two year old, like most of the conservatives on here sound.

Cathy: Nobody asked you to partake in this discussion. Please tune out because you sound like a broken radio, only hearing bits and pieces of a conversation.

Marimon: Obama didn't have an obstructive Congress when he took office. In fact, he had the majority. He could have done anything he wanted at that point. The democrats were voted out of office because they still couldn't make up their minds. I think it is unfair of you to say that it is all the republicans fault when Obama could have stopped this before it had gotten any worse.

unhappy your wasting your time. Jut state your opinion and let it go. The eventual end will be decided next year. Thumbs up or thumbs down. You will never change anyones opinion on this blog......only share yours. And be prepared to hear things worse than a sailor hears.

Unhappy, you were in 2008 with the outcome of the election then. You won't be voting for the President in 2012. However, what in God's name do you think Mitt, Michelle, Herman or Rick brings to the table to make you happy? Is it coupon healthcare that attracts you? Is it corporate welfare that gives you the warm and fuzzy? Is it the knowledge that our 6x the next nation's defense budget keeps you safe? Is it the "social consciousness" that you look forward to? What is it exactly? I have no idea. You don't like the President. So what. Do you think that the damage and decay that has taken decades in the making can be fixed in 2,4,6,8 or more years? Does Mr. Boehner speak you language? Do you think there is a magic jobs wand that you wave and jobs are created? I don't think you have any answers except that you don't like the President. That's not plan or a platform. Please tell Mr. McConnell. That's not electable.

Funny stuff there...

Even in the exit polls most African Americans SAID they voted for BHO because he was black.

Obviously it took tremendous amounts of research for them to figure this much out.

ABO 2012

I would have to agree that most voted for Obama because he was black. I also remember that the Black Panthers barred white voters so they couldn't go into vote.

I also remember that the Black Panthers barred white voters so they couldn't go into vote.

Yeah, all three self-titled Black Panthers.

Unhappy please tell your doctor you need a prescription of prozac, and buy a bottle of wine. Take about 4-5 prozac pills and drink a half bottle of wine and do what Herman Cain was told to do when a young man go to the back of the bus sit down and shut up. First those two guys standing outside the building were not black panthers so get that lie straight. I doubt very seriously white people that don't live in the projects that are primarily black are going there to vote considering they don't live there and how do I know this because black people that don't live there won't go in there and vote either. I bet the only black friends you have are the ones you watch on T.V. dsdsherm you are a brainwashed fool first polls are about as useful as a broken television they poll 900 - 1200 people out of about 22,000,000 and tell you this is what a majority of black people said know does this really make any sense and they tell you the margin of error is 3 - 5 % more like 3,000,000 - 5,000,000 %

First those two guys standing outside the building were not black panthers so get that lie straight.

Unfortunately I can't find the one from NY. However this "lie" you spoke of showed up in Wikeipedia.

The New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case, sometimes known simply as the Black Panther Case, is a political controversy in the United States concerning an incident that occurred during the 2008 election. The New Black Panther Party and two of its members, Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson, were charged with voter intimidation for their conduct outside a polling station in Philadelphia. The Department of Justice later narrowed the charges against Minister King Shabazz and dismissed the charges against the New Black Panther Party and Jerry Jackson. The decision to dismiss the charges has led to accusations that the Department of Justice under the Obama administration is biased against white victims and unwilling to prosecute minorities for civil rights violations. These charges have been most notably made by J. Christian Adams, who in May 2010 resigned his post in the Department of Justice in protest over the Obama Administration's perceived mishandling of the case, and by his former supervisor Christopher Coates.

Counter-accusations have also been made, including claims that the actual incident was relatively minor, but its importance had been blown out of proportion by individuals and groups with political motives. Attorney General Eric Holder has also rejected claims that his Justice Department considers the race of an alleged victim when deciding which cases to pursue. The case and its handling by the Department of Justice is currently being investigated by the United States Commission on Civil Rights. The Justice Department is also carrying out its own internal investigation into the handling of the case.

That was TWO guys who claimed to be Black Panthers in ONE precinct in one city in one state. And how many people did they really succeed in preventing to vote before they were removed? And even that story was debunked: http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/black-panthers-block-african-americans-

There is much more intimidation done at southern polls by white precinct workers from everything I've ever heard. And now you have all of these TP governors passing new voting rights laws that will most likely be thrown out in court when challenged. Talk about calling the kettle black.

The new black panthers are not affliated or recognized by the black panther party. First the original black panther party does not do anything to bring attention to themselves in this day and time because they don't trust the press. The things they do are community based. Are you a member of the KKK or neo-nazi party (national socialist party) because the innuedo your spreading is based on propaganda . As a kid living in California in the 1960's - 70's it was the black panthers that permantly put a lot of drug dealers and pimps out of business than the cops ever did. It wasn't the black panthers protecting drug dealers and saturating black neighborhoods with cocaine and herion. The U.S. Justice department is not going to waste their time with 3 actors portraying the new black panther party in the ghetto. They got there 15 minutes of fame thanks to those dumg asses at Fox fake news. If you want the truth about the black panther party than talk to original black panthers you never can tell the bus driver, doctor, or lawyer you walk by might have been a black panther back in the day.

I forgot to add this some of the B.P. were Vietnam Veterans imagine fighting for your country in a foriegn land getting treated like crap and the coming home getting treated like crap by your own country. I was old enough to remember but whats worse is every Korean and Vietnam Veteran was treated poorly. My dad is a korean/ vietnam veteran.

You think I made this up? This came from Wikipedia not from Fox News. Maybe you should do a little research yourself and see what other papers said that this was a very real lawsuit. Don't discredit me just because your too lazy to go and look. I also understand that the original Black Panthers was from the civil rights era. No need to remind me.

TO: Unhappy-1583758 who wrote:

"I would have to agree that most voted for Obama because he was black. I also remember that the Black Panthers barred white voters so they couldn't go into vote."

I voted for Obama because I thought he was the best candidate for the job, and I still think so.

As for anyone barring people from voting, that would be a Federal Offense and I don't believe that ever happend otherwise I believe someone would have been prosecuted.

If it did happen, then why haven't we seen anyone complaining about it? Seems as though something like that would have made front page news, would have been on all the news shows, and probably would have prompted all those Republicans to come outside packing heat.

Clarence Thomas .... Herman Cain ... chickens that support Col. Sanders ..

Yes, I think you're on the right track...

Tell me again, how you democrats are not racists?

TO: Unhappy-1583758 who wrote:

"Tell me again, how you democrats are not racists?"

Why do you think they call us "liberal?

Seems as though you're not only "Unhappy", you're "Uninformed" as well.

Oh they are laughing alright. I travel to various parts of the world frequently, and I continually hear about the stupidity of Americans that elected BHO as president. Everyone that comments indicates the feeling is that he is weak, uninformed, arrogant, and has degraded the image of America.

Oh no my friend.If you think they are laughing now you should have heard them when we elected Bush.

hough, you are full of it. The international community had us pegged for morons when Bush was elected and re-elected. I don't know what parts of the world you are travelling to but I would be willing to bet you have only heard it from one or two people. Americans are hated, generally, because of their sense of entitlement, lack of class, education and sophistication.

My "Mother-in-Law" travels the world with her boyfriend . They are gone travelling a good portion of the year. They say nothing about people trashing Obama.

I think you are full of it.

TO: houghschultie who wrote:

"Oh they are laughing alright. I travel to various parts of the world frequently, and I continually hear about the stupidity of Americans that elected BHO as president. Everyone that comments indicates the feeling is that he is weak, uninformed, arrogant, and has degraded the image of America."

"Various parts of the world" does NOT include your front porch, your back yard, OR the corner store.

Perhaps your next trip should be one way!

Houghschulitie, how very strange. I just returned from the Uk. Almost everyone I met said how much they admired our President and hoped that he'd gain re-election. What they liked and admired was this; he has a way of presenting a message that comes across, is understandable, is not laced with "The Great We are". Actually, they wished that D. Cameron could be more like President Obama. Maybe I was travelling in the wrong group. I could say that but I also visited friends in France who felt the same way. Where were you?

Just like W - he would never have been in business if it was left to him and he'd never have been in politics if not for H.W. I like a President with a mind of his own.

He will just be the first black president to be re-elected.

Isn't he playing the "race card?"

neastsider...You are right. I don't give a damn about the color of his skin. He has a terminal lack of integrity--that is my objection to the man.

Funny how lies, azz grabbin' and lack of integrity seem to be conservative chirstian values.

Clinton anyone?

Yeah, I'd take Clinton back in a second. At least he didn't threaten to take away my parent's social security.

I have said this here before, but I fear it is again time. My dear old Dad used to say that it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

To bad Mr. Cain didn't know Dad!!!!!!

Yeah, well your dad got that idea from Proverbs 17:28.

i got, from Proverbs, better to spill it into the belly of a whore than to spill it on the ground.

Yes Unhappy I am well aware of this fact.

Damn! a Black Bill Clinton?

Bill Clinton never threatened to take away my parents social security. I'd take Bill over ANY republican.

Monica and Flowers did to at one time. Charicter does matter. I for one do not think that a man convicted of a felony (obstruction of justice and perjury in a civil right tria) is qualified to be president. I don't understand how Bill Clinton is not qualified to practice law, but he is qualified to make law.

I quess Gingrich is out then.....forced out of the House speaker slot by ethics charges....cheated on how many wives?

No ... we hate Obama because we LOVE our country. He doesn't, and he's doing the best he can to destroy it.

If republicans believe that Obama is destroying america then they should pass some legislation to counteract his destruction. Sorry Becky, you're wrong.

Republicans putting their agenda over the health of the country is a treasonous act. I would equate it to killing a child to get vengeance on it's parents.

@Becky and you're willing to destroy everything just to prove that

Republicans are anti-American.

There I have to differ with you marinmom, I consider the R.I.N.O.s in congress, and their hard right supporters, to be unamerican. Not all repubicans support the hard right agenda todays GOP is pushing. I am republican in the spirit of Abraham Lincoln, nor am I the only one. Everything the GOP is trying to cram down our throats I am dead set against.

What wildly liberal, uninformed idiots you all are. Anything the House sent to the Senate was squashed immediately, so don't blame it on the Republicans ... oh, wait -- you're typical left-wing socialist clones who WANT to destroy the country by making it a communist country. Since you can't see beyond your own prejudices, you can only lash out at Republicans, even though our ballooning deficit has been caused by your president, Harry Reid, and Nanpo.